The Squale history is genuine, my uncle dived in them in the Caribbean in the 70's , swore by them, fantastic timepieces. The Von Buren did own the brand, there's no 'allegedly' about it 🙂
The main reason guys buy watches is for the way they LOOK. And this watch is very cool looking, with some 1960s flair. There's nothing else like it out there, and the comparison to the Glycine is off-target. Pick another blue watch to compare it to, perhaps the Seiko SBDC053. That would be valid, although this Squale is more appealing and interesting, especially if you're into vintage divers. That orange hand on a blue dial is stunning. The matte version of this watch is even cooler. Again, it's about the way it LOOKS, not whether the crown is a little tricky to operate or the bezel has a little play. This watch is a looker!
I think you’re making a big assumption that might not be correct. I’ve talked to thousands of watch enthusiasts and a lot care about things like how the crown operates just as much as the aesthetics.
Thanks for taking a look at this watch. I do agree with you on having writing on the side of the case, don't like it on the Blancpain either. I never understood the strong negative views about Squale that prevail on-line. Perhaps the case is made in China, so what. Omega and other Swiss manufacturers have parts made in China. It uses an ETA movement, which is better than the Selitta movements used in Oris and everyone seems to love Oris. To your point about the dial not having surrounds on the markers. I think this is to keep a vintage look. Likewise, I think the marks on the strap buckle are made to make it look used and "vintage". Also, the orange hand was common on dive watches of the 60's/70's, i.e. DOXA Searambler. This is not a bad vintage inspired diver.
That's a good point, it is definitely vintage inspired and those design elements reflect that. Overall I did like the watch, albeit I didn't love the price.
I have doubts the cases are done in China given this is the company's speciality. They would still have all of the old milling machines and workshop equipment to do it in Switzerland and let's face it, they don't exactly turn over crazy numbers of watches each year. Also, when you read up on the legislation governing the use of 'Swiss made', outside of the watch face they can only stamp it on parts of the watch that actually are fully Swiss made. Hence to have it on a case back means that case back was produced in Switzerland. I had a Tissot seastar 1000 that wasn't stamped Swiss made on case back and I was horrified when I opened it to regulate the watch only to find made in China ink stamped on the underside. Of course I quickly applied scotch Brite to rectify the situation!
I’ve had the same model of 1521 for a couple of years now and I’ve found that is really is the ultimate vacation watch. It’s shiny, flashy and very azzurro. On a orange NATO it is very...Mediterranean, the wobbly bezel and 98% designed aspects making it even more Italian. I love mine for the very reasons you dislike it, I find that quite hilarious.
Like I said, it's a good watch, I wouldn't fault anyone for owning one. It's not perfect, and I think there are some people out there presenting it like it is. Overall it's not for me but I don't hate it.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Anyone who claims anything is perfect is either in love or lying or both. Like I said, I’m in love with mine so all imperfections are just adorable.
I own the blasted version of this Squale and I absolutely love it! Tbh, I've never heard a lot of negative comments about this watch or the brand. Thanks for the review!
I am a big fan of Squale. I have three of their models. I like their case design and attention to detail. On this model, I especially like the high polish.
You say you don't like the orange minute hand. Fair enough. But is it not that colour to help ease of visibility when using the bezel when diving?. I think it looks fine and makes perfect sense.
Sure I know why the color orange is used on dive watches. The same reason hunters wear an orange vest, for visibility. That said I don't dive, nor do the overwhelming majority of the people that wear dive watches. From a pure aesthetics standpoint, I'm not a fan of the color orange.
I’ve got the 1521 PVD in triple black. I’ve got a Seamster and Speedmaster and my 1521 knocks the socks off them. My go to watch everyday, the best value watch you can get for £800-£900 in my view.
Hi Guy. Rewatching this 2018 Squale video (owned a 1521 a few years ago, quite an enjoyable timepiece). The quality of your production has dramatically improved over the past 2 years.
I got one of these, due to that color. It was striking. But that crown, bugged me every time I used it. It sits low and I have big fingers. And trying to get my finger and thumb in there to turn it proved difficult. After you first mentioned Seiko in stead of squale by accident, I could not look at this watch without thinking "This looks like a skx007 mod!" Even the black strap looks skx007! Great review, feels like reviewing it from a neutral ground! Brilliant!
Haha the most controversial watch on TH-cam, well done. I find squale an ok watch with a too high price. What I dislike is the all polished case, it seems like a missed opportunity with all those angles ad bevels. They could have made alterations with brushed finish to make things more interesting. This way they give an impression of being too lazy to bother. Oh and the side logo is just ridiculous, like Invicta is trying to tell the owner they bought out Sauale
Hey buddy, obviously I'm with you on the logo on the case. It's like an artist making a nice painting, then putting their name in huge bold letters right in the middle.
I think they have a bead blasted case too, which I prefer. I think the overall design is pretty good and practical. But yea, the price is a bit too high. I think Squale is much more interesting than Hamilton diver, but for almost twice the price it seems overpriced. Intrestingly tho most of the independent companies who use automatic ETA movements sell their watches for around 1000 eur/us. Also whats up with the comic sans font in their website LOL? Something is fishy...
I strongly suspect they use whatever is available at the time they are producing batches of watches. I've had others comment that they have asked and Squale replied saying it was Standard and still others saying they were told it was Top. Unless everyone is lying (including Squale) my theory seems to make the most sense.
I have a Squale 1521 and think it's great, easily worth the $900. If you don't like the design then that's fine, but I think most of the controversy for this watch is due not to the watch itself but to a certain English gentleman who shall not be named. Which is a shame; a lot of people will dismiss this watch simply because they can't stand him, and they're missing out on a fantastic watch.
What's with the screws on the bezel? Won't name names, but a certain popular TH-camr really seems biased in their presentation of this watch. I much preferred your approach. The finishing on the clasp, bezel shake and crown wobble is shocking, and tbh I don't like the design In general, except for the colour of the blue and the sunburst.
SevenW25 V Totally under stand who you mean. I bought the squale about 4 years ago just for that reason/review. That's when I leaned the crown was neigh impossible to grip, and wobbles badly when unwound, the bezel was almost un-greased, and had back play, and the silly Invicta, sorry, squale stamped logo on the side of the case. That's when I learned to watch multiple reviews first than trust the popular one....bit like micro brands that way...
The bezel screws tightens and loosens the bezel. So if you like it to be more difficult to turn the you tighten them. If you loosen them all the way the bezel will come off
Roelf van der Merwe interesting, I figured it had to do with that, just have never seen any other watch incorporate it? I don't like the look of them tbh, even if they are useful
This was probably the most accurate and detailed review I have seen on this watch. Some other reviews did not mention some of these details like the crown and buckle finishing. Your assessment was fair and you gave me a lot to think about considering I was looking for one. Thanks!
Great review. Another more affordable option if you want a blue dial and don’t mind a silicon strap is the Seiko SBDC053. I have seen them for between $600-$650. 6r15 movement, sapphire crystal, dia-shield Coated case, and “made in Japan”.
There is an online seller out of Singapore called Gnomon that exclusively sells the blue on the bracelet as well as the PADI version. They also sell the bracelet separately. However their prices are not great.
Thanks for this review. I think that you focused a bit too much on negative aspects of this watch and did not bring out enough the positive things. For example the crown. Yes, it is a bit hard to use but on the other hand it is well protected and without crown guards. That is actually quite well designed. And about the buckle: I think that was not the orginal buckle because there was no Squale sign. I have had several Squale straps and they all have had signed buckle.
There are positive aspects, of which I’ve mentioned some, and there’s plenty of channels out there that will tell you nothing but the positives. Regarding the buckle I’ve seen many examples that have this older low quality version and many newer ones with the signed buckle. I don’t know when Squale started changing them but it is original to the watch.
Yes, you mentioned some positive things but some obvious ones you did not. I don't expect that honest rewies like this one are just about the positives things but here I think the balance between positive and negative aspects was not ok. And about the buckle. If you Google "Squale strap" you see that almost everyone has signed buckle. I haven't seen this kind of buckle before. And this is a thing that you could have mentioned on your review.
Great video as always 👍🏽 I have a speedy pro and a Marinemaster both of which I love but I want a blue dial watch and I’m stuck between a Seiko Sbdc053 (£495) or the Pelagos (£2700)- this sits in the middle price wise... I’ll be honest I like the look and the colours of the Squale but not sure I prefer it to the others. How do you think this compares to the Pelagos and Sbdc053?
I would just be making guesses, since I haven't spent any real time with either of those watches. The Seiko SBDC divers are one of the few Seiko dive watches I've wanted to review but haven't had the chance yet. I would guess the Pelagos is a much nicer watch then this Squale, but that's just based on seeing them at the watch shop briefly and the reputation of Tudor.
Guy, i just found your channel very recently and i really like your reviews a lot. The variety of watches is also incredible. Looking forward what's coming next but in the meanwhile i'm going through your back-catalogue.
Thank you for the nice review. How does this one, in your opinion, compare to the glycine combat sub you reviewed in the past? Strictly regarding the quality, the level of finish etc. I have my thoughts regarding other parameters, only interested in your directly comparing the quality of these two specific models you reviewed. Thank you.
I would say they are pretty close and that's why if I were in the market to buy something like this I would probably go for the combat sub, since you can find them for about half the cost.
The Collins English/ French dictionary says Squale pronounced 'Skwal' is a noun for 'Shark.' I liked the engraving on the case. The brand Uylsee Nardin have the serial number bolted there and are a quirky brand based in their History producing Marine Chronometers for ship's navigation to calculate your Longitude. ETA are supposed to be good movements and the crown is positioned so it isn't damaged. According to the diver Jason Heston at Hodinkee. The concertina section of the strap is for diving watches to take up the slack as your neoprene diving suit compresses as you go deeper and it is rated at 500m. I only know a bit about the more mainstream expensive brands and nothing about these or Seiko. It looked legible and had hands like Doxa diving watches which Jason Heaton and the other diver James Stacey like. You could get a Doxa or even better a Ulysse Nardin to review from your friends at this shop.
Nice and sober review. I like this watch, but think it works better in the matt blasted finish. In that finish it brings something to the the table that very few others do. A completely unpolished understated diving tool watch. In that setting the crown works better too. It appears to be very well protected, and that’s more important to me and my use case than accessibility and ease of operation. I will certainly try this watch out at some point, but as you point out, probably not at full retail price.
I think this is a fair minded and balanced review. My issue with both arguments elsewhere is the basis of the argument. The people who love or hate it tend to just boil down to personal taste. I haven't read too many solid arguments for or against the watch from a mechanical or performance basis. My own 2 cents... I hate the three separate "Squale" logos. Saying the brand twice on the dial is ridiculous and the one on the side is tacky. I do however like the blue colour as a summer/beach watch and I quite like the bright accented colour of the minute hand. I agree that the Glycine Combat Sub seems to be way better value, being a bit thinner, comparative in performance and available for half the price or less.
Thanks for this unbiased and rational review. It's hard to make up your mind as a consumer navigating between those who say that this watch is the holy grail of watches and those who say that it is the worst watch ever made.
Thanks Luciole. I try to be fair, honest, and objective in my reviews. I think it's a good watch, not great, with some shortcomings - and perhaps priced a little too high.
I was considering buying this watch a few months ago. While I do like the design, there are few flaws that you pointed out that make it feel not worth its price tag. And considering what you can buy for $1000, I decided not to purchase
I think I like the Mido Ocean Star that you reviewed better. It is a better deal I think. Which do you prefer? The lack of applied indices for the price is a big downer for me.
In my very humble opinion, I do like the blue on the face and bezel and the chrome inside ring, but that’s it for the price of $899. I think this watch brand has gained popularity due to a particular watch reviewer from a large East Coast City. I do like the fact that they embossed the side with their name, probably so you can fill it in with a bright color paint to let the world know you are a member of the Club. But again another comprehensive review.👌
Think it's a great looking summer watch...on a NATO or the mesh....but I think 900 is a bit strong...I think if it was just over the 5 or 600 mark i would pull the trigger....i've heard all the hate but i think it looks great Like your unbiased reviews...
I have the 1521 and I like everything about it. I do agree with you that the price is a bit high. Some of the newer models are down around the $500 mark. Recently I picked up the new Squale GMT.
If that sunburst blue dial is what are you after,better off with Seiko Turtle/Samurai Blue Lagoon.Inferior movement(but in house),way better finish of case and dial.They hard to find though..
IMO a beautifull and well built watch - at least not a blatant Submariner copy as many others in this price range. Those printed markers take inspiration from the golden age of dive watches - 60s and 70s, and the orange minute hand makes much sense considering this a purpose built dive wach and visibility under water is a must here. I think Squale watches areone of the best in the affordable segment, really no comparison possible with Invicta.
Nice, honest review. I recently got the Squale Onda Limited edition and I think they got rid of most of the problems you outlined on this watch. The bevel has almost no play in it and moves easier than my Seamaster's. There are applied markers on the dial. The bevel has raised numbers on it which gives it some topography. There is no engraving on the side of the watch and they eliminated all logos except for 'Squale' on the dial. Same ETA movement and the same price. I think you get a better watch for the money with one of the limited Onda versions rather than just a Squale 1521.
ty for the even handed review it puts a lot into perspective but i have to say after watching this and other reviews my thousand is better saved for another day
there were several problems for me with it not the least of which was the crown and in particular the difficulty with hand winding and the construction of the dial
Interesting review of a very polarizing watch. The impressive thing is the amount of haters and fanboys of certain watch youtube "gurus", people expect them to be totally fair in their impressions, and that's impossible because the reviews are based in their own opinions and their experiences, which may vary from one guy to another!.
A review, or more accurately described as a critique is as you say, the opinions of the presenter. It's funny that I get complaints from people because "all I do is give my opinions". What else does a reviewer do haha? If someone doesn't like my point of view, which is typically very consistent, I'd probably suggest finding someone else to watch.
Excellent review as always! To wind it, just go/swipe over the lug at 5 o’clock and the crown with your thumb, it should work perfectly 😉 I know it’s a little bit unusual but the hole design is it. Squale was (I don’t know if they are still) one of the most important case producer in Europe. They built cases for many luxuries Swiss brands and also as I know for the legendary Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. You mentioned the Glycine Combat Sub - was/is also a great watch. I don’t know if the are still so great and produce the watches in Switzerland or maybe in China now, since Glycine is part of the Invicta Group. From the point of pricing, I’m 100% with you. Since they are Invicta, you can buy a Combat Sub under 400,- what a great value!!!
I really like the 1521 but with 8" wrists I'm concerned I will find it too small for my liking. I am also considering the Squale Matic which falls in my sweet spot at 44mm.
The glycine dosnt look like the squale at all in my mind. The Squale is so because of the unique case, it has this raw machined look, like a tool, especially in the bead blasted version, i like the depth it has and the squale engraving gives is this machined look, the glycine looks like any other diving watch.
I wonder if you got ahold of a bad one. Mine has very good bezel movement. Mine came with a soft rubber strap with a very nice buckle- nothing like the one you showed. I put mine of the optional shark mesh bracelet. I don't wear it often, but I like it. I agree with your criticisms of the crown position- a real pain. BTW, I bought mine about 11/2017. Keep up the good videos!
Thanks for watching. I looked around online as others had mentioned they had versions with a different buckle on their strap. I've seen examples both like this one I had and a different nicer buckle. Perhaps they changed them at some point and this was an older piece of inventory from the dealer.
The Matte Blue Version with the Ocean Blasted Casing is much better looking. Also the orange minute hand is purely a divers kind of thing; highly visible under water. Thanks for the review!
As always a great and objective review Guy, thanks! Totally agree, except I think your example had some issues (and the stock black rubber is boring as). I have bought, sold and rebought the 1521 twice. I now have the ocean blasted blue version and love it (a long with all my other divers, rolex sub, seikos etc). I have to say the one you had seemed a little ... average. The crowns on mine all stuck/stick out much further when unscrewed. And none of my bezels had anywhere near that much back play. I mean they weren't submariner or pelagos level by any means, but it does stop firmly (and I think you can adjust the tension via the screws on the bezel). I'm not an orange fan either, but as a vintage diver it makes total sense as orange is most visible when diving, so Ive grown to love it (also against the blue). That strap buckle on your example (as noted by others) is very odd, i have numerous genuine squale straps for mine including rubbers, leather, the mesh and natos and they are all top notch finishing and quality wise, and always have a signed buckle. Their rubbers are actually made by bonetto cinturini, and the leathers are collareb, so are not bad at all. ETA is ok for me to (even Rolex wasnt always in house ;-) ... easy and cheap to service, and my current example runs at +2, -2! As for their history ... I got all bummed out by the hearsay, hate and snobbery initially when I bought this, but having delved into it, their history is actually quite legit!, and probabaly more significant for diving than luxury watches. I''m from a family of divers and I recently found out my father (who was a proper jacques cousteau type living in Papua new Guinea) had squale cased and squale watches back in the day along with his higher end Rolex's and Seikos. Although Squale was bought by the Maggi family, they were always involved in some way so not much different, and who cares who owns who in 2018!. I do wish they had stuck to the 1521 and the 60 atmos lines which are their own original designs, as some of the others are homage junk blah to me, but you gotta do what you have to survive in the watch industry. Agreed the RRP is up there (but who pays RRP except anything on Rolex anyway?) , but for good fit and finish, unique style, some sort of history, sapphire and 500m! there isn't to much else like it. I only paid $600 on my last grey market re-buy new off of Ebay (driect from italy) which is pretty great IMHO. And, Ive never lost more than $100 when I sold the others (seemed good for resale to me). End of the day, It's a professional dive tool, not a luxury watch, which is what they have always done. Not for everyone and by no means perfect ... and yes overhyped by some ... but if you look at it for what it's supposed to be, it's a great little package. I wouldn't pick it as my only watch, but it definitely sits nicely in a small collection. Of all my watches, the 1521 probably gets the most interest/compliments too suprisingly. IMHO these get way to much hate from the snobs, and haters (and as for talk of shills etc ... sheesh get over it people). If you like the look, and even better if you actually occasionally set foot in water!, get it at a good price and enjoy it I say! Just took mine to Thailand for my 40th and had a blast partying and snorkeling with the family! You should check out the blasted version on a mesh! or the official NATO. Look forward to more awesome and honest reviews!
Thanks for watching and for sharing all your experience and knowledge about the watch I appreciate it. Overall I liked the watch, and I wasn't expecting to. I think it's a pretty solid option, albeit I don't love the price point, but I wouldn't fault anyone for buying one.
Great review. I throughly enjoyed how you tried to keep it objectively. Great job! I’m a new subscriber. I own this watch and agree with your after thoughts. Especially the crown.
Love this watch. Nice summer wear and accurate enough for me. I own a lot better but its just a fun watch. Always gets a favourable comment. Picked it up brand new from Italy, just over £500, with a really nice tan leather strap. You could do a lot worse👍😎👍
Another super comprehensive review Guy. Really enjoy your presentation very informative and opinionated but without the hyperbole. This is a watch I’ve been close to acquiring for a while but a few months back I got the Glycine Combat Sub and that has scratched that itch ( well almost anyways ) Keep up the good work.
All of the negative feedback I found on square were from people who do not like TGV. I think some of the Squale criticism are just over the top ridiculous.
Really like this watch but I absolutely hate the SQUALE logo on the side of the case. The blue is stunning and the orange hand was an awesome choice to really make the dial pop. Still I feel it’s way overpriced. I’d rather buy a Sieko SBDC061 or SBDC051 62MAS for that money. Thanx for your honest review.
It's a great watch I have owned the PVD version. The buckle on your watch is different than what I had on my 1521, mine had a very nice Squale buckle, I really think that the buckle on your watch isn't original it doesn't looks close to the one I had. BTW, you can get them for less than 900$ brand new on ebay.
Someone else said their buckle is different. I looked around online, and see pictures of watches with the buckle I had on this model and a different and nicer signed buckle. I imagine that they must have changed to a different buckle at some point and this might be an older model that was in the dealers inventory for a while.
here is the link to the fb post, however I'm not sure if that e-mail really came from squale as the poster claims. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156611798446255&set=gm.1906134516347242&type=3&theater&ifg=1
I just re-watched your SARB033 video. I'm still looking for the EDC content. Knives, lights, and firearms. At least give us an idea what your EDC is.........
Hey, Guy, good objective review of the 50 Atmos. This watch gets a lot of play by you know who which cracks me up because he always complains about other watches with the exact same dimensions being too big for his wrist. Lol. Huh? Anyway, outside of that channel your review and James Stacey's review are the only ones I've heard that weren't negative. Did you try contacting Squale about the grade of the movement and AR coating, etc? I've done that with other small watch brads to learn more about their product and they usually respond to me. Halios, for example, wrote me a nice email back answering several questions I had about the Seaforth. Oh, regarding the rubber strap. Those folds are to allow the strap to expand and contract while diving. It's fairly standard on a rubber dive strap. Nice video. Keep the content coming.
I didn't contact Squale to ask about those specific things. I'm sure they would fill in those blanks for me if I did, but it would be nice if they just published the specs clearly so that wasn't necessary.
I completely agree with you but so many of them don't include this information. I don't review watches like you so when I've contacted manufacturers it's to find out more about the watch to determine if I want to consider purchasing it. That might be a good route for you to go in the future to obtain information on smaller brands that don't publish all the details.
I’ve come to highly respect your reviews even with watches I have no interest in. I’m currently saving for a Sinn U1 fully tegimented and am within 500 dollars of my goal which I started in December. Would love to hear your detailed thoughts about it. Probably not a easy one to come by?
Sinn is very hard to come by, it doesn't seem like a lot of people have them and if I'm not mistaken I think they are only sold directly from Sinn so I can't even see them in stores. I'd love to check one out, but I can't personally buy most watches I'd like to review.
There's nothing wrong with Squale. I hope that you can review the Squale Squalematic next time. I own one and i'm very happy with it. Very good review by the way👍🏻
I like the lugs and case, don't like all the logos everywhere and the price is too much. I'd look at the Glycine Combat Sub over this. I think it would crush the Squale in a head to head. Ha ha I wrote this before you mentioned it in the video. Great video man.
Why did you have that kind of unfinished buckle on the strap? Thats not the nice engraved thing they usually put on their products. The Play on the Brezel is also not on every piece. some of Them have alignment issues but Not as Bad as Seiko has. The markers can be an issue but how would other ones look with the polished rehaut... awful. I finally ordered one for myself and hope to have no quality problems like your Model has.
Here are the Specs. As you can see, it uses the top grade 2824 ETA Movement in the most recent iterations and has an AR coating. Cheers CASE Stainless Steel MOVEMENT ETA 2824-2 Top DIAL Black LUME Yes LENS Sapphire w/AR STRAP Rubber or Bracelet WATER RESISTANCE 500M DIMENSIONS 41.5 x 48.5mm THICKNESS 13mm LUG WIDTH 20mm CROWN 5 WARRANTY 2 Years PRICE $829
I bought this back when TGV was really pushing them, and it left me pretty underwhelmed. It was a beautiful watch, but for the price I think they slacked a bit on the quality. I got mine the the mesh bracelet and there was this metal bur on the endlink that prevented it from fitting the watch, so I had to file that down. The bezel alignment was off, which isn't a hard fix but again for that price point shouldn't have left like that. I've had much better luck with different watches since and I don't really miss this one at all. Great video, I look forward to the next one
I've heard a similar story a few times now, having picked this watch up based on some hype and ultimately being disappointed. I don't think it's a bad watch, but it's not for me, at that price.
Squale is supposed to mean shark. French pronunciation is sqal, but it doesn't mean shark. In Italian, shark is squalo. Go figure))) I usually buy my watches for a purpose. On the other hand, I bought the 50 Atmos because I find it to be a beautiful time piece. I agree with you on the drawbacks and the price. However, I just really like this watch. I have always wanted a Glycine. Yet now that Invicta owns them I have my reservations. Just the pricing scheme is enough to make me think more than twice.
Thanks for an objective review as I’m considering buying one. It has become controversial because many youtubers are insecure and need to put down others to salve their fragile egos. They also fail to understand the differences between Americans and Europeans regarding their ancestry. There are a number of channels I don’t care for, I just don’t watch them. No need to go about bashing them! Thanks again for a detailed, honest review! 👍
The movement and build quality is all that matters really.Whether you like the look of it or not blah blah blah is personal preference.ETA running within 3 -4 sec's(pretty good) ? I noticed there is adjustable screws on the bezel.I'm guessing this would take the little bit of play out of that action.Shitter rubber band but put it on a shark mesh and it will transform.I'd say a pretty good watch. I might have to get one.
Respectfully disagree as these watches aren’t even in the same ballpark. 1521 brand new runs $830, Tudor BB and Pelagos will run you roughly 3k USED...apples to bowling balls.
But I like the look of this better than a black bay. And in the end, if it has a decent movement and you like the look better, Isn’t that what this hobby should be about.
It is a good watch but not a great watch. At that price a Top Grade movement would be a good deal but an Elaboré Grade or lower is steep. I don't like the strap and bracelet options.
I kind of doubt it's using a Top grade but I've seen people say that it is. Who knows if that's true. Someone else in the comments said that Squale made a statement that it's a Standard grade movement, which would be something of a let down at this price.
I recently bought this watch except on a mesh ,saw all the vids on youtube, fell in love with THAT blue, But the quality is just not there, scratches on the case and under magnification and light a blemish on the dial that drove me crazy at first , but after the last couple of weeks and i see whats happening in the world with this coronaviris I Think does it realy matter? and THAT Blue is just so beautiful
@@JustBlueFish After almost two years using this watch, I must say that the crown at four o'clock is much more comfortable than the usual at three, as in this position it is never hitting my wrist, so I consider it a plus in design. All the best!
The blue bezel and dial are amazing. Gorgeous. ETA? Excellent. Cool design but not for me. The crown, bezel action, engraving on the side and overall size just don’t do it for me. PLUS its very shiny for a true diver which this really is. Mixing brushed and polished might have worked better. Great review and that you look at all the details (I.e. buckle). Cheers.
Thanks for watching Graham. I think they have a fully brushed finish model, which might be better for a tool/diver watch, but this was the one I had access to.
The Squale history is genuine, my uncle dived in them in the Caribbean in the 70's , swore by them, fantastic timepieces. The Von Buren did own the brand, there's no 'allegedly' about it 🙂
I hope you are right, I love mine...if I even suspected any chinese parts I would toss it.
The main reason guys buy watches is for the way they LOOK. And this watch is very cool looking, with some 1960s flair. There's nothing else like it out there, and the comparison to the Glycine is off-target. Pick another blue watch to compare it to, perhaps the Seiko SBDC053. That would be valid, although this Squale is more appealing and interesting, especially if you're into vintage divers. That orange hand on a blue dial is stunning. The matte version of this watch is even cooler. Again, it's about the way it LOOKS, not whether the crown is a little tricky to operate or the bezel has a little play. This watch is a looker!
I think you’re making a big assumption that might not be correct. I’ve talked to thousands of watch enthusiasts and a lot care about things like how the crown operates just as much as the aesthetics.
Yessir!
Thanks for taking a look at this watch. I do agree with you on having writing on the side of the case, don't like it on the Blancpain either. I never understood the strong negative views about Squale that prevail on-line. Perhaps the case is made in China, so what. Omega and other Swiss manufacturers have parts made in China. It uses an ETA movement, which is better than the Selitta movements used in Oris and everyone seems to love Oris. To your point about the dial not having surrounds on the markers. I think this is to keep a vintage look. Likewise, I think the marks on the strap buckle are made to make it look used and "vintage". Also, the orange hand was common on dive watches of the 60's/70's, i.e. DOXA Searambler. This is not a bad vintage inspired diver.
That's a good point, it is definitely vintage inspired and those design elements reflect that. Overall I did like the watch, albeit I didn't love the price.
I have doubts the cases are done in China given this is the company's speciality. They would still have all of the old milling machines and workshop equipment to do it in Switzerland and let's face it, they don't exactly turn over crazy numbers of watches each year. Also, when you read up on the legislation governing the use of 'Swiss made', outside of the watch face they can only stamp it on parts of the watch that actually are fully Swiss made. Hence to have it on a case back means that case back was produced in Switzerland. I had a Tissot seastar 1000 that wasn't stamped Swiss made on case back and I was horrified when I opened it to regulate the watch only to find made in China ink stamped on the underside. Of course I quickly applied scotch Brite to rectify the situation!
@@bucknaked6674 the question should be is the case well made ? I think yes it is.
@noldi2010 Small price to pay for a great dive watch.
@@kman4310 It seems to be so I doubt it is made in china.
I’ve had the same model of 1521 for a couple of years now and I’ve found that is really is the ultimate vacation watch. It’s shiny, flashy and very azzurro. On a orange NATO it is very...Mediterranean, the wobbly bezel and 98% designed aspects making it even more Italian. I love mine for the very reasons you dislike it, I find that quite hilarious.
Like I said, it's a good watch, I wouldn't fault anyone for owning one. It's not perfect, and I think there are some people out there presenting it like it is. Overall it's not for me but I don't hate it.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Anyone who claims anything is perfect is either in love or lying or both. Like I said, I’m in love with mine so all imperfections are just adorable.
I own the blasted version of this Squale and I absolutely love it! Tbh, I've never heard a lot of negative comments about this watch or the brand. Thanks for the review!
I am a big fan of Squale. I have three of their models. I like their case design and attention to detail. On this model, I especially like the high polish.
Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
You say you don't like the orange minute hand. Fair enough. But is it not that colour to help ease of visibility when using the bezel when diving?. I think it looks fine and makes perfect sense.
Sure I know why the color orange is used on dive watches. The same reason hunters wear an orange vest, for visibility. That said I don't dive, nor do the overwhelming majority of the people that wear dive watches. From a pure aesthetics standpoint, I'm not a fan of the color orange.
I’ve got the 1521 PVD in triple black. I’ve got a Seamster and Speedmaster and my 1521 knocks the socks off them. My go to watch everyday, the best value watch you can get for £800-£900 in my view.
Hi Guy. Rewatching this 2018 Squale video (owned a 1521 a few years ago, quite an enjoyable timepiece). The quality of your production has dramatically improved over the past 2 years.
I got one of these, due to that color. It was striking. But that crown, bugged me every time I used it. It sits low and I have big fingers. And trying to get my finger and thumb in there to turn it proved difficult.
After you first mentioned Seiko in stead of squale by accident, I could not look at this watch without thinking "This looks like a skx007 mod!" Even the black strap looks skx007!
Great review, feels like reviewing it from a neutral ground! Brilliant!
Thanks DJ. There is very much a Seiko vibe with this watch. The fully graduated aluminum bezel insert also gave me an SKX vibe.
Haha the most controversial watch on TH-cam, well done.
I find squale an ok watch with a too high price.
What I dislike is the all polished case, it seems like a missed opportunity with all those angles ad bevels. They could have made alterations with brushed finish to make things more interesting. This way they give an impression of being too lazy to bother.
Oh and the side logo is just ridiculous, like Invicta is trying to tell the owner they bought out Sauale
Hey buddy, obviously I'm with you on the logo on the case. It's like an artist making a nice painting, then putting their name in huge bold letters right in the middle.
I think they have a bead blasted case too, which I prefer. I think the overall design is pretty good and practical. But yea, the price is a bit too high. I think Squale is much more interesting than Hamilton diver, but for almost twice the price it seems overpriced. Intrestingly tho most of the independent companies who use automatic ETA movements sell their watches for around 1000 eur/us.
Also whats up with the comic sans font in their website LOL? Something is fishy...
Yeah, the have a bead blasted case. Same ref #
Where did you get the 14mm case depth from? My 1521 measures at 12.6mm.
Mine is 13. Does yours have the screwed bezel?
12.6 here too
Digital calipers gives me 13 on the nose.
The movement is elabore grade ... received this information directly from Squale when I emailed them a while back
I strongly suspect they use whatever is available at the time they are producing batches of watches. I've had others comment that they have asked and Squale replied saying it was Standard and still others saying they were told it was Top. Unless everyone is lying (including Squale) my theory seems to make the most sense.
I have a Squale 1521 and think it's great, easily worth the $900. If you don't like the design then that's fine, but I think most of the controversy for this watch is due not to the watch itself but to a certain English gentleman who shall not be named. Which is a shame; a lot of people will dismiss this watch simply because they can't stand him, and they're missing out on a fantastic watch.
I liked the watch but it had its fair share of shortcomings, which I felt made the price unjustifiable.
I love TGV and value his reviews, others should too. Maybe I’m biased (I’m 🏴), but even that aside I respect his views.
What's with the screws on the bezel? Won't name names, but a certain popular TH-camr really seems biased in their presentation of this watch. I much preferred your approach. The finishing on the clasp, bezel shake and crown wobble is shocking, and tbh I don't like the design In general, except for the colour of the blue and the sunburst.
SevenW25 V Totally under stand who you mean. I bought the squale about 4 years ago just for that reason/review. That's when I leaned the crown was neigh impossible to grip, and wobbles badly when unwound, the bezel was almost un-greased, and had back play, and the silly Invicta, sorry, squale stamped logo on the side of the case. That's when I learned to watch multiple reviews first than trust the popular one....bit like micro brands that way...
I don't know why the bezel has screws on the side actually. Sorry I couldn't answer your question on that.
The bezel screws tightens and loosens the bezel. So if you like it to be more difficult to turn the you tighten them. If you loosen them all the way the bezel will come off
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews it’s like on Sinn’s tool watches, you can’t lose that bezel.
Roelf van der Merwe interesting, I figured it had to do with that, just have never seen any other watch incorporate it? I don't like the look of them tbh, even if they are useful
Great color blue. I like the case shape too but just too much high polish and 100% agree about the engraving.
Thanks for watching Daniel, I appreciate it.
This was probably the most accurate and detailed review I have seen on this watch. Some other reviews did not mention some of these details like the crown and buckle finishing. Your assessment was fair and you gave me a lot to think about considering I was looking for one. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Andrew I hope the review helps with your decision.
Great review. Another more affordable option if you want a blue dial and don’t mind a silicon strap is the Seiko SBDC053. I have seen them for between $600-$650. 6r15 movement, sapphire crystal, dia-shield Coated case, and “made in Japan”.
Thanks for watching and good suggestion.
I just wish they did it on the blue rubber/silicon strap or even better, the bracelet from the sbdc051
There is an online seller out of Singapore called Gnomon that exclusively sells the blue on the bracelet as well as the PADI version. They also sell the bracelet separately. However their prices are not great.
Thanks for this review. I think that you focused a bit too much on negative aspects of this watch and did not bring out enough the positive things. For example the crown. Yes, it is a bit hard to use but on the other hand it is well protected and without crown guards. That is actually quite well designed. And about the buckle: I think that was not the orginal buckle because there was no Squale sign. I have had several Squale straps and they all have had signed buckle.
There are positive aspects, of which I’ve mentioned some, and there’s plenty of channels out there that will tell you nothing but the positives. Regarding the buckle I’ve seen many examples that have this older low quality version and many newer ones with the signed buckle. I don’t know when Squale started changing them but it is original to the watch.
Yes, you mentioned some positive things but some obvious ones you did not. I don't expect that honest rewies like this one are just about the positives things but here I think the balance between positive and negative aspects was not ok.
And about the buckle. If you Google "Squale strap" you see that almost everyone has signed buckle. I haven't seen this kind of buckle before. And this is a thing that you could have mentioned on your review.
Great video as always 👍🏽 I have a speedy pro and a Marinemaster both of which I love but I want a blue dial watch and I’m stuck between a Seiko Sbdc053 (£495) or the Pelagos (£2700)- this sits in the middle price wise... I’ll be honest I like the look and the colours of the Squale but not sure I prefer it to the others.
How do you think this compares to the Pelagos and Sbdc053?
I would just be making guesses, since I haven't spent any real time with either of those watches. The Seiko SBDC divers are one of the few Seiko dive watches I've wanted to review but haven't had the chance yet. I would guess the Pelagos is a much nicer watch then this Squale, but that's just based on seeing them at the watch shop briefly and the reputation of Tudor.
I have to admit… I love it. It has charm, originality and what a beautiful blue. I might have to buy it… as if i need another diver! Ugh.
Guy, i just found your channel very recently and i really like your reviews a lot. The variety of watches is also incredible. Looking forward what's coming next but in the meanwhile i'm going through your back-catalogue.
Thanks KB, I appreciate the feedback. Don't hold the quality of my old videos against me!
Thank you for the nice review. How does this one, in your opinion, compare to the glycine combat sub you reviewed in the past? Strictly regarding the quality, the level of finish etc. I have my thoughts regarding other parameters, only interested in your directly comparing the quality of these two specific models you reviewed. Thank you.
I would say they are pretty close and that's why if I were in the market to buy something like this I would probably go for the combat sub, since you can find them for about half the cost.
I love it because it has its own design language and is a bit eccentric.
The Collins English/ French dictionary says Squale pronounced 'Skwal' is a noun for 'Shark.' I liked the engraving on the case. The brand Uylsee Nardin have the serial number bolted there and are a quirky brand based in their History producing Marine Chronometers for ship's navigation to calculate your Longitude. ETA are supposed to be good movements and the crown is positioned so it isn't damaged. According to the diver Jason Heston at Hodinkee. The concertina section of the strap is for diving watches to take up the slack as your neoprene diving suit compresses as you go deeper and it is rated at 500m. I only know a bit about the more mainstream expensive brands and nothing about these or Seiko. It looked legible and had hands like Doxa diving watches which Jason Heaton and the other diver James Stacey like. You could get a Doxa or even better a Ulysse Nardin to review from your friends at this shop.
Hey Andrew, I'm not sure if Exquisite has any Doxa or UN watches but I'll check on that and see if I can review one.
Squale is the Italian word for shark, and is pronounced "Squar-lay"..
Nice and sober review. I like this watch, but think it works better in the matt blasted finish. In that finish it brings something to the the table that very few others do. A completely unpolished understated diving tool watch. In that setting the crown works better too. It appears to be very well protected, and that’s more important to me and my use case than accessibility and ease of operation. I will certainly try this watch out at some point, but as you point out, probably not at full retail price.
Yeah the matte finished model might be preferable, I haven't seen one in person but this one has a lot of polish.
I think this is a fair minded and balanced review.
My issue with both arguments elsewhere is the basis of the argument. The people who love or hate it tend to just boil down to personal taste. I haven't read too many solid arguments for or against the watch from a mechanical or performance basis.
My own 2 cents... I hate the three separate "Squale" logos. Saying the brand twice on the dial is ridiculous and the one on the side is tacky. I do however like the blue colour as a summer/beach watch and I quite like the bright accented colour of the minute hand. I agree that the Glycine Combat Sub seems to be way better value, being a bit thinner, comparative in performance and available for half the price or less.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts Simon. All of the branding is a bit much, I agree.
The bottom logo on the dial is a nod to their case making days. When a other company used their case, that logo was there. See blancpain 50 F dials. 😉
Thanks for this unbiased and rational review. It's hard to make up your mind as a consumer navigating between those who say that this watch is the holy grail of watches and those who say that it is the worst watch ever made.
Thanks Luciole. I try to be fair, honest, and objective in my reviews. I think it's a good watch, not great, with some shortcomings - and perhaps priced a little too high.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews I'm a new subscriber and glad I found your channel, looking forward to more reviews.
I was considering buying this watch a few months ago. While I do like the design, there are few flaws that you pointed out that make it feel not worth its price tag. And considering what you can buy for $1000, I decided not to purchase
If someone loves the watch I wouldn't fault them for getting it, it's not bad, but I'd probably look at other alternatives for myself.
Great review. Lots of attention to details. You always trying to be objective. Which I like the most. Thanks a lot.
Thank you for the compliment and for watching.
I think I like the Mido Ocean Star that you reviewed better. It is a better deal I think. Which do you prefer? The lack of applied indices for the price is a big downer for me.
The Mido would be my pick for sure. The adjustable clasp on the rubber strap was a great feature, if nothing else.
SWFL native here! Good to see other watch enthusiasts in the area.
There’s a few of us here.
In my very humble opinion, I do like the blue on the face and bezel and the chrome inside ring, but that’s it for the price of $899. I think this watch brand has gained popularity due to a particular watch reviewer from a large East Coast City. I do like the fact that they embossed the side with their name, probably so you can fill it in with a bright color paint to let the world know you are a member of the Club. But again another comprehensive review.👌
Overall it's a pretty nice watch and I liked it more than I had expected to. I do think the price is a little on the high side though.
Think it's a great looking summer watch...on a NATO or the mesh....but I think 900 is a bit strong...I think if it was just over the 5 or 600 mark i would pull the trigger....i've heard all the hate but i think it looks great
Like your unbiased reviews...
Thanks Robin. I'm with you on the price. 5-600 would be a pretty good spot for it.
I have the 1521 and I like everything about it. I do agree with you that the price is a bit high. Some of the newer models are down around the $500 mark. Recently I picked up the new Squale GMT.
Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
I’m interested in opinions comparing the squally 1521 in the Christopher ward trident 600 pro in bronze.
I haven’t seen a Christopher Ward so I couldn’t give a fair opinion nn
If that sunburst blue dial is what are you after,better off with Seiko Turtle/Samurai Blue Lagoon.Inferior movement(but in house),way better finish of case and dial.They hard to find though..
Good suggestion. Thanks Tomasz.
IMO a beautifull and well built watch - at least not a blatant Submariner copy as many others in this price range.
Those printed markers take inspiration from the golden age of dive watches - 60s and 70s, and the orange minute hand makes much sense considering this a purpose built dive wach and visibility under water is a must here.
I think Squale watches areone of the best in the affordable segment, really no comparison possible with Invicta.
Thanks for watching.
Nice, honest review. I recently got the Squale Onda Limited edition and I think they got rid of most of the problems you outlined on this watch. The bevel has almost no play in it and moves easier than my Seamaster's. There are applied markers on the dial. The bevel has raised numbers on it which gives it some topography. There is no engraving on the side of the watch and they eliminated all logos except for 'Squale' on the dial. Same ETA movement and the same price. I think you get a better watch for the money with one of the limited Onda versions rather than just a Squale 1521.
Sounds like that model does fix a lot of my critiques, I'll have to look that op. Thanks for watching.
ty for the even handed review it puts a lot into perspective but i have to say after watching this and other reviews my thousand is better saved for another day
If you love the watch, I wouldn't fault you for getting it, but yeah I would look at other options as well if you're just lukewarm on it.
there were several problems for me with it not the least of which was the crown and in particular the difficulty with hand winding and the construction of the dial
Love your videos man. Top honest and picky (But i like that too) reviews.
I don't think of it as picky, I'd say it's discerning! haha, ok I'm picky.
Impressed you have your own opinion, rather then borrowing other people’s prejuidices?
I try to form my own opinions but I'm sure it's hard for anyone to not be influenced by what other people have to say.
Looks nice.
Glad it’s not a hyper inflated Rolex ripoff.
Getting one soon.
Interesting review of a very polarizing watch. The impressive thing is the amount of haters and fanboys of certain watch youtube "gurus", people expect them to be totally fair in their impressions, and that's impossible because the reviews are based in their own opinions and their experiences, which may vary from one guy to another!.
A review, or more accurately described as a critique is as you say, the opinions of the presenter. It's funny that I get complaints from people because "all I do is give my opinions". What else does a reviewer do haha? If someone doesn't like my point of view, which is typically very consistent, I'd probably suggest finding someone else to watch.
Nice blue & like the orange hand. Like 4 oclock crown. I like engraving on side. But costs too much for me. Many people like them.
The price does seem a little high for what you get.
I'm not sure but I think you can adjust the bezel with the screws.
Thanks for watching Gordon.
Nice honest review. Thanks!
Thanks Jeff.
Excellent review as always! To wind it, just go/swipe over the lug at 5 o’clock and the crown with your thumb, it should work perfectly 😉 I know it’s a little bit unusual but the hole design is it. Squale was (I don’t know if they are still) one of the most important case producer in Europe. They built cases for many luxuries Swiss brands and also as I know for the legendary Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. You mentioned the Glycine Combat Sub - was/is also a great watch. I don’t know if the are still so great and produce the watches in Switzerland or maybe in China now, since Glycine is part of the Invicta Group. From the point of pricing, I’m 100% with you. Since they are Invicta, you can buy a Combat Sub under 400,- what a great value!!!
Thanks for watching WD. Yeah I figured there must be a technique to winding it that I didn't figure out.
I really like the 1521 but with 8" wrists I'm concerned I will find it too small for my liking. I am also considering the Squale Matic which falls in my sweet spot at 44mm.
I would think the 1521 would be just fine on your wrist, it isn't a small watch, but I guess it all depends on what you're comfortable with.
The glycine dosnt look like the squale at all in my mind. The Squale is so because of the unique case, it has this raw machined look, like a tool, especially in the bead blasted version, i like the depth it has and the squale engraving gives is this machined look, the glycine looks like any other diving watch.
Thanks for watching.
Well said mate, totally agree.
In the past Squale has made cases for most Swiss brands ( Blancpain Fifty Fathoms for example). It Is an Historical italian brand.
Thank you for this. The reviewer clearly does not understand Squale’s heritage.
I wonder if you got ahold of a bad one. Mine has very good bezel movement. Mine came with a soft rubber strap with a very nice buckle- nothing like the one you showed. I put mine of the optional shark mesh bracelet. I don't wear it often, but I like it. I agree with your criticisms of the crown position- a real pain. BTW, I bought mine about 11/2017. Keep up the good videos!
Thanks for watching. I looked around online as others had mentioned they had versions with a different buckle on their strap. I've seen examples both like this one I had and a different nicer buckle. Perhaps they changed them at some point and this was an older piece of inventory from the dealer.
The Matte Blue Version with the Ocean Blasted Casing is much better looking. Also the orange minute hand is purely a divers kind of thing; highly visible under water. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for watching.
As always a great and objective review Guy, thanks! Totally agree, except I think your example had some issues (and the stock black rubber is boring as).
I have bought, sold and rebought the 1521 twice. I now have the ocean blasted blue version and love it (a long with all my other divers, rolex sub, seikos etc).
I have to say the one you had seemed a little ... average. The crowns on mine all stuck/stick out much further when unscrewed. And none of my bezels had anywhere near that much back play. I mean they weren't submariner or pelagos level by any means, but it does stop firmly (and I think you can adjust the tension via the screws on the bezel). I'm not an orange fan either, but as a vintage diver it makes total sense as orange is most visible when diving, so Ive grown to love it (also against the blue).
That strap buckle on your example (as noted by others) is very odd, i have numerous genuine squale straps for mine including rubbers, leather, the mesh and natos and they are all top notch finishing and quality wise, and always have a signed buckle. Their rubbers are actually made by bonetto cinturini, and the leathers are collareb, so are not bad at all. ETA is ok for me to (even Rolex wasnt always in house ;-) ... easy and cheap to service, and my current example runs at +2, -2!
As for their history ... I got all bummed out by the hearsay, hate and snobbery initially when I bought this, but having delved into it, their history is actually quite legit!, and probabaly more significant for diving than luxury watches. I''m from a family of divers and I recently found out my father (who was a proper jacques cousteau type living in Papua new Guinea) had squale cased and squale watches back in the day along with his higher end Rolex's and Seikos. Although Squale was bought by the Maggi family, they were always involved in some way so not much different, and who cares who owns who in 2018!. I do wish they had stuck to the 1521 and the 60 atmos lines which are their own original designs, as some of the others are homage junk blah to me, but you gotta do what you have to survive in the watch industry.
Agreed the RRP is up there (but who pays RRP except anything on Rolex anyway?) , but for good fit and finish, unique style, some sort of history, sapphire and 500m! there isn't to much else like it. I only paid $600 on my last grey market re-buy new off of Ebay (driect from italy) which is pretty great IMHO. And, Ive never lost more than $100 when I sold the others (seemed good for resale to me). End of the day, It's a professional dive tool, not a luxury watch, which is what they have always done.
Not for everyone and by no means perfect ... and yes overhyped by some ... but if you look at it for what it's supposed to be, it's a great little package. I wouldn't pick it as my only watch, but it definitely sits nicely in a small collection. Of all my watches, the 1521 probably gets the most interest/compliments too suprisingly.
IMHO these get way to much hate from the snobs, and haters (and as for talk of shills etc ... sheesh get over it people).
If you like the look, and even better if you actually occasionally set foot in water!, get it at a good price and enjoy it I say!
Just took mine to Thailand for my 40th and had a blast partying and snorkeling with the family!
You should check out the blasted version on a mesh! or the official NATO.
Look forward to more awesome and honest reviews!
Thanks for watching and for sharing all your experience and knowledge about the watch I appreciate it. Overall I liked the watch, and I wasn't expecting to. I think it's a pretty solid option, albeit I don't love the price point, but I wouldn't fault anyone for buying one.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. I have the black polished version. Bought mine from eBay, 6 months old for a great price.
I own this watch and I love it.
Thanks for watching Alex.
Great review. I throughly enjoyed how you tried to keep it objectively. Great job! I’m a new subscriber. I own this watch and agree with your after thoughts. Especially the crown.
Thanks for watching and the sub. Ya this was a pleasant surprise, given the negatives I’ve heard about the watch. It’s quite nice.
Love this watch. Nice summer wear and accurate enough for me. I own a lot better but its just a fun watch. Always gets a favourable comment. Picked it up brand new from Italy, just over £500, with a really nice tan leather strap. You could do a lot worse👍😎👍
Thanks for watching Andrew, I appreciate it.
May I please ask where in Italy did you manage to pick it up from for £500 please. Thanks
I’d be curious to see your favorite picks per category at different priced ranges . I.E (diver,dress,field,pilot)(0-100,100-500, etc ...)
Thanks, I’ll think about that and see if I can make a video with my picks.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Awesome! I look forward to seeing it if you choose to do one . If not I like your regular content a lot haha
Another super comprehensive review Guy.
Really enjoy your presentation very informative and opinionated but without the hyperbole.
This is a watch I’ve been close to acquiring for a while but a few months back I got the Glycine Combat Sub and that has scratched that itch ( well almost anyways )
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Dean appreciate the feedback. It seems a lot of people made the same conclusion, that the Combat Sub is a really good alternative.
All of the negative feedback I found on square were from people who do not like TGV. I think some of the Squale criticism are just over the top ridiculous.
Really like this watch but I absolutely hate the SQUALE logo on the side of the case. The blue is stunning and the orange hand was an awesome choice to really make the dial pop. Still I feel it’s way overpriced. I’d rather buy a Sieko SBDC061 or SBDC051 62MAS for that money. Thanx for your honest review.
Thanks for watching buddy I appreciate it.
It's a great watch I have owned the PVD version. The buckle on your watch is different than what I had on my 1521, mine had a very nice Squale buckle, I really think that the buckle on your watch isn't original it doesn't looks close to the one I had.
BTW, you can get them for less than 900$ brand new on ebay.
Someone else said their buckle is different. I looked around online, and see pictures of watches with the buckle I had on this model and a different and nicer signed buckle. I imagine that they must have changed to a different buckle at some point and this might be an older model that was in the dealers inventory for a while.
IDK how old it must be to have this buckle, mine was 2016. BTW I think that the newer models don't have the Squale branding on the case though.
Are they ISO rated?
I saw a post of somebody that asked them directly about the movement and it's supposedly standard grade
Is that right? I tried to find out and there were many posts and many people suggesting many different answers.
here is the link to the fb post, however I'm not sure if that e-mail really came from squale as the poster claims. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156611798446255&set=gm.1906134516347242&type=3&theater&ifg=1
imgur.com/gallery/HsIVMCh
I just re-watched your SARB033 video. I'm still looking for the EDC content. Knives, lights, and firearms. At least give us an idea what your EDC is.........
I was just thinking I need to do an EDC video. But I don't want to trigger half my subscribers with a gun in my video... Maybe I'll do it anyway.
I'll bee looking forward too it. And remember, Your are doing a great job. I like that you have a shop loaning you watches. That has been great.
The brand is legit, and it’s a Swiss watch! Get one!
Squale on the side reminds me too much of invicta 😞
Yeah I'm not a fan.
Junior Bullock same quality as an invicta with an eta movement 🤮
they come with much better quality straps now then the one your reviewing.
I’ve heard that is the case.
Hey, Guy, good objective review of the 50 Atmos. This watch gets a lot of play by you know who which cracks me up because he always complains about other watches with the exact same dimensions being too big for his wrist. Lol. Huh? Anyway, outside of that channel your review and James Stacey's review are the only ones I've heard that weren't negative. Did you try contacting Squale about the grade of the movement and AR coating, etc? I've done that with other small watch brads to learn more about their product and they usually respond to me. Halios, for example, wrote me a nice email back answering several questions I had about the Seaforth. Oh, regarding the rubber strap. Those folds are to allow the strap to expand and contract while diving. It's fairly standard on a rubber dive strap. Nice video. Keep the content coming.
I didn't contact Squale to ask about those specific things. I'm sure they would fill in those blanks for me if I did, but it would be nice if they just published the specs clearly so that wasn't necessary.
I completely agree with you but so many of them don't include this information. I don't review watches like you so when I've contacted manufacturers it's to find out more about the watch to determine if I want to consider purchasing it. That might be a good route for you to go in the future to obtain information on smaller brands that don't publish all the details.
Very realistic review!
Thanks for watching.
I have seen an email from Squale that said Elabore grade.
Nice review, thank you.
Thanks!
I’ve come to highly respect your reviews even with watches I have no interest in. I’m currently saving for a Sinn U1 fully tegimented and am within 500 dollars of my goal which I started in December. Would love to hear your detailed thoughts about it. Probably not a easy one to come by?
Sinn is very hard to come by, it doesn't seem like a lot of people have them and if I'm not mistaken I think they are only sold directly from Sinn so I can't even see them in stores. I'd love to check one out, but I can't personally buy most watches I'd like to review.
There's nothing wrong with Squale. I hope that you can review the Squale Squalematic next time. I own one and i'm very happy with it. Very good review by the way👍🏻
I'll have to see if I can get ahold of that model. Thanks for watching.
I like the lugs and case, don't like all the logos everywhere and the price is too much. I'd look at the Glycine Combat Sub over this. I think it would crush the Squale in a head to head. Ha ha I wrote this before you mentioned it in the video. Great video man.
Great minds think alike.
Pre-Invicta I would have agreed with this, post Invicta, I choose Squale over Glycine.
Why did you have that kind of unfinished buckle on the strap? Thats not the nice engraved thing they usually put on their products.
The Play on the Brezel is also not on every piece. some of Them have alignment issues but Not as Bad as Seiko has.
The markers can be an issue but how would other ones look with the polished rehaut... awful.
I finally ordered one for myself and hope to have no quality problems like your Model has.
That one was from a few years ago. Imagine things have changed.
Here are the Specs. As you can see, it uses the top grade 2824 ETA Movement in the most recent iterations and has an AR coating. Cheers
CASE Stainless Steel
MOVEMENT
ETA 2824-2 Top
DIAL Black
LUME Yes
LENS Sapphire w/AR
STRAP Rubber or Bracelet
WATER RESISTANCE 500M
DIMENSIONS 41.5 x 48.5mm
THICKNESS 13mm
LUG WIDTH 20mm
CROWN 5
WARRANTY 2 Years
PRICE $829
Thanks for sharing.
Long Island Watch sells Squale online at a discount
Do they? I thought they were priced right at $900 as well there.
@@JustBlueFish I think you're right about the price, they're also an AD for the brand.
I bought this back when TGV was really pushing them, and it left me pretty underwhelmed. It was a beautiful watch, but for the price I think they slacked a bit on the quality. I got mine the the mesh bracelet and there was this metal bur on the endlink that prevented it from fitting the watch, so I had to file that down. The bezel alignment was off, which isn't a hard fix but again for that price point shouldn't have left like that. I've had much better luck with different watches since and I don't really miss this one at all. Great video, I look forward to the next one
I've heard a similar story a few times now, having picked this watch up based on some hype and ultimately being disappointed. I don't think it's a bad watch, but it's not for me, at that price.
I know I should probably just take a peek through your library, but have you covered Christopher Ward at all?
No not yet unfortunately.
Depends where you buy from. I believe the Q.C. is better from Gnomon in Hong Kong vs LIW.
Squale is supposed to mean shark. French pronunciation is sqal, but it doesn't mean shark. In Italian, shark is squalo. Go figure))) I usually buy my watches for a purpose. On the other hand, I bought the 50 Atmos because I find it to be a beautiful time piece. I agree with you on the drawbacks and the price. However, I just really like this watch. I have always wanted a Glycine. Yet now that Invicta owns them I have my reservations. Just the pricing scheme is enough to make me think more than twice.
Like I said in the end, it's a nice watch and I wouldn't fault anyone for liking it and/or buying one. Enjoy it and thanks for watching Gregory.
I own a Rolex Master 2 and a Squale 1521...they both look great on my wrist.
PS the Squale ETA 2824-2 movement keeps better time than the Rolex.
Excellent review once again. And I agree, at that price I'd probably get something else.
Thanks Carlo.
Thanks for an objective review as I’m considering buying one. It has become controversial because many youtubers are insecure and need to put down others to salve their fragile egos. They also fail to understand the differences between Americans and Europeans regarding their ancestry.
There are a number of channels I don’t care for, I just don’t watch them. No need to go about bashing them!
Thanks again for a detailed, honest review! 👍
Thanks for watch itsalgud1 I appreciate it.
It a great watch for kids (15-25)
Perhaps a bit big for the younger end of the scale, I guess it depends on the kid.
The movement and build quality is all that matters really.Whether you like the look of it or not blah blah blah is personal preference.ETA running within 3 -4 sec's(pretty good) ? I noticed there is adjustable screws on the bezel.I'm guessing this would take the little bit of play out of that action.Shitter rubber band but put it on a shark mesh and it will transform.I'd say a pretty good watch. I might have to get one.
Will you review Bulova Lunar Pilot by any chance?
Someone mentioned possibly loaning me one, we will see if that ever happens. I hope so.
Beautiful watch. I own two Squale Watches. Never had any issue.
Thanks for watching James.
Orange hands: I guess you don’t like vintage Heuers much then
Just save a bit more and get a Tudor..
Probably a good idea.
I have both the 1521 and a tudor black bay love both either great choices in my opinion
Or dont save and get the Sinn.
Respectfully disagree as these watches aren’t even in the same ballpark. 1521 brand new runs $830, Tudor BB and Pelagos will run you roughly 3k USED...apples to bowling balls.
But I like the look of this better than a black bay. And in the end, if it has a decent movement and you like the look better, Isn’t that what this hobby should be about.
It is a good watch but not a great watch. At that price a Top Grade movement would be a good deal but an Elaboré Grade or lower is steep. I don't like the strap and bracelet options.
I kind of doubt it's using a Top grade but I've seen people say that it is. Who knows if that's true. Someone else in the comments said that Squale made a statement that it's a Standard grade movement, which would be something of a let down at this price.
Great review, my grail watch!
Thanks buddy, appreciate it. Hope you get yours soon.
Looks good on you!
It is if you accept it for what it is... which is a retro inspired micro brand timepiece.
Very true, thanks for watching.
They made cases for blancpain and sinn and Huer, etc. so, I find it hard to believe they don’t make their own now.
They make their own cases. The reviewer just spreading misinformation about a historic brand.
I recently bought this watch except on a mesh ,saw all the vids on youtube, fell in love with THAT blue, But the quality is just not there, scratches on the case and under magnification and light a blemish on the dial that drove me crazy at first , but after the last couple of weeks and i see whats happening in the world with this coronaviris I Think does it realy matter? and THAT Blue is just so beautiful
Where did you buy it? Got mine from Gnomon and it's perfect.
This watch is so cool. Thank you for your review.
Thanks for watching Enrique, I appreciate it.
@@JustBlueFish After almost two years using this watch, I must say that the crown at four o'clock is much more comfortable than the usual at three, as in this position it is never hitting my wrist, so I consider it a plus in design. All the best!
I will pass, but the color theme of this watch is unique
Thanks for watching.
Not bad. Not great. I like it but there's no way I'd fork out 9 c-notes for it. I'd buy 3 nice Graf Zeppelins for that kind of scratch.
Hey Stephen thanks for watching. I agree on the price, it's a tall order.
I wouldn't buy it mainly because of that signed case. Also, some other minor flaws that should not be there when you consider the price.
Yeah the signed case is awful.
The blue bezel and dial are amazing. Gorgeous. ETA? Excellent. Cool design but not for me. The crown, bezel action, engraving on the side and overall size just don’t do it for me. PLUS its very shiny for a true diver which this really is. Mixing brushed and polished might have worked better. Great review and that you look at all the details (I.e. buckle). Cheers.
Thanks for watching Graham. I think they have a fully brushed finish model, which might be better for a tool/diver watch, but this was the one I had access to.