+Lewis Grace She certainly was very nice when we went to meet her and, I agree, I don't think all the abuse directed at Liz or any of the other candidates helps. We need a grown up debate.
Can't shake off Frankie Boyle's take on her: "Liz Kendall, with her permanent air of an office manager who has just come back from a course, couldn’t lure a voter out of a burning building - and her whole campaign is based on changing Labour to be whatever people who hate it want it to be."
***** It doesn't mean its good though... She appears far more right wing than any other candidate and metaphorically far more plasticy. Also Tony Blair.... after hearing that I could never ever support her or anyone who supports Tony Blair.
+Connor Selby she cant say things that have meaning. she can just repeat hollow, contextless phrases. she is not an actual person: th-cam.com/video/6sck08x3XZ4/w-d-xo.html
One of the things that frustrated me most over the General Election was that Labour just accepted the narrative that they caused the financial crash, and didn't try to correct the Conservatives at all.
I'm the real anti-austerity candidate... because I'm the one that's going to beat the Tories, kick them out and get us a Labour government" A horribly cringeworthy soundbite that indicates how vacuous her beliefs are.
Anti-Austerity means eat the young to pay off the debts of the old. The old will be dead before our Trillions of £'s in debt will be due to be paid. The old want their benefits by cooking and eating the young and making it impossible to compete. The current system should not have been propped up so aggressively after 2008. Young people would have done far better off if a proper correction was allowed to take place. Young people have not been the beneficiaries of the debt-money that they ultimately will have to pay off Let austerity cleanse the system. We are mainlining economic heroin for the duration we run up a deficit. People need to experience true reality in order to snap to their senses and go out and start building skills again! Manufacturing will never return to this country for the duration we have a welfare system, I guarantee you that. Let an absence of printed money correct the system to the new reality we've faced for 10 years.
Owen gives me hope for the future. He is a decent and fair person, a rare quality these days. This is the caliber of person Labour needs to attract into Parliament. I know he won't stand, but I reckon he will give inspiration to others of similar values and abilities, to get involved in the mucky business of politics.
***** Gaining an Oxbridge education is hardly a bad thing and his Dad was a shop steward and his Mum an IT lecturer. Hardly McJobs but at least he isn't some Etonion, like those running the Tories. His family have been involved in Socialist politics for generations, not exactly the history of some out of touch elitist. I have no doubt he has got things wrong, as for deliberately spreading misinformation, you will have to back that up with an example.
she said a lot, but managed to say nothing of real substance at all-nothing constructive or what she really believes in or what her labour would what to do. a typical silver spoon politician with no real motive for change or action.
Cannot stand Kendall, her speaking style is odd (just an observation) but her policies are shocking. None existent policies but then saying she is the only person to kick the Tories out, I cannot understand how? where is the evidence that she will beat them if she is offering next to nothing different to Miliband in 15, or Brown in 10.
No hate towards Liz but I do hate how much she respects Blair. Fact of the matter is that Blair is a war criminal by definition of his past actions; it's that simple and supporting someone like that is... well it tells volumes.
Why did she abstain from voting against the Austerity Bill? Neither she nor her policies impress me and the purpose she serves is to show us why we need Jeremy Corbyn.
She really doesn't sit right with me. No one deserves to be spoken down to though. They are all going to have things said about them. I don't agree with her sticking up for Tony Blair but she's bound to as she doesn't like the fact jeremy is doing well.
I think many of labour MPs like Liz Kendall really do care about the people of the country unlike the tories but I want labour to move further to the left and maybe even form a coalition government with other left parties like the greens, lib dems and SNP, I think a coalition like that could really help the country or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part
Good on Owen for breaking down Liz's ill-thought out politics and public image front. Baring her teeth when she's forced to contend with the shocking reality of her leader Tony Blair. This dumbing down and the deep-rooted, cynical whitewashing/self-management by career politicians is what we're struggling against.
I just don't understand why Liz Kendall doesn't just leave Labour and join the Tories where she belongs (unless she is part of a conspiracy to keep Britain right wing by ensuring both main parties are right wing)
How can anyone be for affordable housing and higher wages and at the same time support mass immigration and open borders? High demand = low wages and high property prices and high rents. Yes, you could tax the crap out of the richest people, but do that and most of them will just transfer their wealth abroad or move to a cheaper country, as they always do. I've asked this question 10 times already, I still can't get an answer.
sorry Owen I want to support you by watching this but find her difficult to watch. her intonation makes me feel like she's lying. maybe I'll press play then pop the unspecified pad like computer in a cupboard and come back later
She spoke well on the feminist issue and for the first time I actually was fully with her on something. Buuuut as per when it comes to any other policies she's just full of hot air
Fair play for doing the interview knowing Owen Jones' leanings toward Jeremy Corbyn. Unfortunately I didn't hear a lot on policy, only a lot of 'others not doing enough' . What would you DO, Liz? Substance.
Liz Kendall definitely supports the private sector in the NHS, she has worked for the King's Fund thinktank which is dominated by the private healthcare sector, and for Patricia Hewitt, yet another health secretary who took the revolving door into private healthcare after quitting that post.
Owen, isn't Austerity illegal in some way? Do you think we will look back in 5 years time and ask ourselves why did we let the Conservative party get away with this?
I really like Liz as a person. She seems like a genuinely nice woman but unfortunately I think she is too similar to the Tories. I think even deep down she knows she won't be Labour leader but fair play for her campaign.
How would New Labour policies be safe for the economy? The economy got totaled under New Labour. Far worse than anything that happened under Old Labour. Even in the Seventies at the height of the Oil Crisis, can't remember a trillion pound deficit.
Person Well give me some facts - not bullshit media spin. 2,5 billion from the IMF in return for 3.5 billion worth of cuts. In today's money that's around a 20 billion loan for 30 billion worth of cuts. Hardly a bail-out of 1000 billion. Or even before the 08 crisis - labour was in a 100 billion hole
Liz Kendall is probably a Fabien Society member like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Fabiens are literally 'Wolves in Sheep's Clothing' one of the detestable symbols of the Fabien Society.
As much as it's good to interview people with a broad range of political opinions, I can't help but think listening to Liz Kendall's opinions on policy is a waste of time (in that, she doesn't really seem to have any definitive ideas. Also, the whole not condemning Tony Blair thing...pretty mad) Why not interview some politicians who aren't as hounded by the national press post-election like Maggie Chapman, Patrick Harvie, Leanne Wood etc? Also, with the anniversary of the referendum coming up, why not try and get Salmond? It would be good to see him have a proper, in-depth political discussion instead of just being a bit of a hard-arse to the Tories.
The UK has a deficit of near to 100 billion, national debt of 2.5 trillion and national debt liabilities of near to 10 trillion. There are no alternatives to cutting back. It has to happen.
Regret it that I put down Andy and Yvette in 2nd and 3rd. They're both snarly nasty pieces of work attacking everyone and anyone. At least Liz agrees with Owen and Jeremy that this shouldn't happen.
"I'm a feminist because I don't think you should be asked how much you weigh." No, Liz, you should be a socialist (on so many levels) because we don't think men OR women should be asked such trivial questions. " She's later asked about bombing in Syria: "no I think our response should be political". You mean "diplomatic" - bombing is a political response, Liz. Liz doesn't even understand the basics. I shudder if she ever got into a position of real power.
This is how good journalism works - you ask challenging questions and give the interviewee a proper opportunity to respond. Liz Kenbdall comes over as a far more reasonable person in this interview than she does in a lot of the mainstream media coverage. She's still wrong - but I wish other journalists would give Jeremy Corbyn the same respect as Owen Jones gives her.
I was pleased to see this. I don't think Kendall is unlikable, but I do think her policies are wrong. I also think she's come across as patronising at times, lecturing the party, which has amplified the backlash against her. I wish you had taken her more head-on on some of her statements and positions Owen, especially with regard to welfare.
One more thing. There are plenty of good reasons for wanting to vote for Jeremy Corbyn but one is being able to watch him against Cameron at PMQ's every week. I cannot wait!
Today, in July 2024, she is the most frightening part of the Labour party, being by far the most dim-witted, right wing, empty headed minister of the new cabinet who competes with the worst of the previous government. Mark my words - she will outdo Priti Patel in unpopularity very soon. She should join Reform because that is where her policies will be aligned.
"I think people want change" thats why Jeremy corbyn is so popular amongst labour voters and so feared amongst establishment politicans like liz kendal
It's a crying shame that she's been discriminated against because of her sex/gender. There's enough shit on her from her awful and uninspired policies to keep her out of the picture, why focus on her looks rather than her principles, you know, what actually matters?
I completely detest her policies but I can't stand the hateful speech used against her as I think she's genuinely a quite nice person.
+Lewis Grace She certainly was very nice when we went to meet her and, I agree, I don't think all the abuse directed at Liz or any of the other candidates helps. We need a grown up debate.
Owen Jones Agreed, interesting how her and Corbyn are leading the campaign against personal attacks. Also, are you watching the Channel 4 live stream?
+Lewis Grace Totally agree. She's always got a smile on and she loves being in Labour.
*****
HAHAHAHAHAHA I WAS RIGHT YOU ARE FOLLOWING ME HAHA
+Dave Long Dave Long, Dave Long, trolls on and on.
"I am labour's anti austerity candidate"
yeah, and I'm the fucking pope.
+G. Whistler She's Nicola Murry
+cebenezer Better than Ben Swain... go stand over there in the corner, and do not move!
lol
Can't shake off Frankie Boyle's take on her: "Liz Kendall, with her permanent air of an office manager who has just come back from a course, couldn’t lure a voter out of a burning building - and her whole campaign is based on changing Labour to be whatever people who hate it want it to be."
***** Be on the look out for things that make you laugh. If you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it, then laugh.
Brilliant
+Dave Long Have you swallowed the little book of calm?
+Chris McSweeney I like Liz Kendall, but that description is perfect. She's not leader material. Then again, neither are any of the other candidates.
brilliant, I hadn't heard that.
she would do well in the tory party
i don't ;)
+paul armstrong She did do well in Bliar's Tory party.
there are two Tory parties
I am only judging her on her policies and she is not someone I would ever vote for.
+Dave Long Liz Kendal, I presume
+cathaoir haughey she doesn't have any
+Dave Long I do
***** It doesn't mean its good though... She appears far more right wing than any other candidate and metaphorically far more plasticy. Also Tony Blair.... after hearing that I could never ever support her or anyone who supports Tony Blair.
+cathaoir haughey She's not a good option for sure.
Wow, she said an awful lot of nothing.
+Connor Selby she cant say things that have meaning. she can just repeat hollow, contextless phrases. she is not an actual person: th-cam.com/video/6sck08x3XZ4/w-d-xo.html
Volound yeah I've seen the vid. I'm a huge fan of LSR
+Dave Long The "Labour" part of that sentence is superfluous.
+Connor Selby Many politicians are good at saying alot of nothing.
***** ???
to be anti-austerity, dont you actually have to be anti-austerity?
One of the things that frustrated me most over the General Election was that Labour just accepted the narrative that they caused the financial crash, and didn't try to correct the Conservatives at all.
Does anyone else think Liz is pretty?
pretty horrendous
Ed Surman Her Mother , Mrs Thatcher !!
This woman is total establishment.
the establishment know how to run things
This is the best I've seen her come across.
I'm the real anti-austerity candidate... because I'm the one that's going to beat the Tories, kick them out and get us a Labour government" A horribly cringeworthy soundbite that indicates how vacuous her beliefs are.
Anti-Austerity means eat the young to pay off the debts of the old. The old will be dead before our Trillions of £'s in debt will be due to be paid. The old want their benefits by cooking and eating the young and making it impossible to compete. The current system should not have been propped up so aggressively after 2008. Young people would have done far better off if a proper correction was allowed to take place. Young people have not been the beneficiaries of the debt-money that they ultimately will have to pay off
Let austerity cleanse the system. We are mainlining economic heroin for the duration we run up a deficit. People need to experience true reality in order to snap to their senses and go out and start building skills again!
Manufacturing will never return to this country for the duration we have a welfare system, I guarantee you that. Let an absence of printed money correct the system to the new reality we've faced for 10 years.
Owen gives me hope for the future. He is a decent and fair person, a rare quality these days. This is the caliber of person Labour needs to attract into Parliament. I know he won't stand, but I reckon he will give inspiration to others of similar values and abilities, to get involved in the mucky business of politics.
slothkingn1 I'd like to see more Owens in any capacity. You are right about austerity, it could well be the Tories ultimate undoing.
***** His articles are full of misinformation? You are either trolling or haven't read the man.
***** Gaining an Oxbridge education is hardly a bad thing and his Dad was a shop steward and his Mum an IT lecturer. Hardly McJobs but at least he isn't some Etonion, like those running the Tories. His family have been involved in Socialist politics for generations, not exactly the history of some out of touch elitist. I have no doubt he has got things wrong, as for deliberately spreading misinformation, you will have to back that up with an example.
Geoff Heisenberg He should cut down on Shirt Lifting !!
Any word on the Peter Hitchens interview?
+Mr Lillico coming next apparently
+Mr Lillico Yeah, we met a couple of weeks ago. Adam's editing it now. It'll be later this week, hopefully.
Nice, looking forward to it
Is he the lesser brother of the great Christopher Hitchens?
***** I guess someone had to.
She should've been leader.
Is this woman still alive? She's said nothing, done nothing, not aired her views on the EU or any other political matter for months.
Why is Liz Kendall in the Labour Party?
she said a lot, but managed to say nothing of real substance at all-nothing constructive or what she really believes in or what her labour would what to do. a typical silver spoon politician with no real motive for change or action.
How does it feel to be lied to so much, Owen?
Yeah, she is a tory
Liz Kendall creeps me out... like a mean highschool teacher
you have to be mean to brats
Interesting interview but She has no clue and aught to join the Tory Party
+Dave Long The banks are good with money though aren't they.
+Dave Long yeah but should join the tory's ....
LOL Tory's don't do too bad either 1.7 trillion
Can't wait for that Hitchens interview!
talk about the 4000 people who were found fit for work who then died within in a month
Cannot stand Kendall, her speaking style is odd (just an observation) but her policies are shocking. None existent policies but then saying she is the only person to kick the Tories out, I cannot understand how? where is the evidence that she will beat them if she is offering next to nothing different to Miliband in 15, or Brown in 10.
Great reporting.
Plastic smile.
Plastic frown.
Plastic seriousness.
Plastic concern.
Plastic everything.
And she wonders why people can't stand her !!!
No plastic tits, hot legs and a sultry babe.
Interview Milo Yiannopoulos! You are both polar opposites, it would be a cracking conversation.
where's Milo?
is it 2003?
Sound bites and handed down NEW LABOUR policies do not do it for me. She might be nice but she lacks depth.
She doesn't half talk some twaddle. She "the anti austerity candidate" not on you Nelly!
i don't think she answered a single question there...
No hate towards Liz but I do hate how much she respects Blair. Fact of the matter is that Blair is a war criminal by definition of his past actions; it's that simple and supporting someone like that is... well it tells volumes.
Why did she abstain from voting against the Austerity Bill? Neither she nor her policies impress me and the purpose she serves is to show us why we need Jeremy Corbyn.
Liz Kendall says a lot without really saying anything at all 😶
She seems like a really genuine and nice person
She really doesn't sit right with me. No one deserves to be spoken down to though. They are all going to have things said about them. I don't agree with her sticking up for Tony Blair but she's bound to as she doesn't like the fact jeremy is doing well.
Kendall sounds like she's reading from a script. I don't feel anyone would want to follow her or be guided by her.
A soundbite politician, like Cooper and Burnham are
I think many of labour MPs like Liz Kendall really do care about the people of the country unlike the tories but I want labour to move further to the left and maybe even form a coalition government with other left parties like the greens, lib dems and SNP, I think a coalition like that could really help the country or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part
Good on Owen for breaking down Liz's ill-thought out politics and public image front. Baring her teeth when she's forced to contend with the shocking reality of her leader Tony Blair. This dumbing down and the deep-rooted, cynical whitewashing/self-management by career politicians is what we're struggling against.
I just don't understand why Liz Kendall doesn't just leave Labour and join the Tories where she belongs (unless she is part of a conspiracy to keep Britain right wing by ensuring both main parties are right wing)
She looked like she was going to cry when Tony Blair was brought up. The Blairites need to move on...
Why so short.
Never support somebody who shys away from condemning somebody who works with dictators. That's sonebody who puts career ahead of principles.
Passive aggressive.
How can anyone be for affordable housing and higher wages and at the same time support mass immigration and open borders? High demand = low wages and high property prices and high rents. Yes, you could tax the crap out of the richest people, but do that and most of them will just transfer their wealth abroad or move to a cheaper country, as they always do. I've asked this question 10 times already, I still can't get an answer.
What will you tell me, Liz?
I really want to like Liz Kendall but I just can't.
sorry Owen I want to support you by watching this but find her difficult to watch. her intonation makes me feel like she's lying. maybe I'll press play then pop the unspecified pad like computer in a cupboard and come back later
She spoke well on the feminist issue and for the first time I actually was fully with her on something. Buuuut as per when it comes to any other policies she's just full of hot air
Now that Russel has gone we now have Owen.
I mean she completely dodged that tax credits question.
you should have asked more questions about foreign policy.
+rifat islam We were running out of time, I'm afraid.
Government is not going to save us. We need a new system that benefits all, and not just a handful of wealthy bankers and politicians.
Labour Fiends Of Israel !
The DM also asked about Burnham's weight, but SEXISM!
*****
very
talked a lot, said next to nothing.
Fair play for doing the interview knowing Owen Jones' leanings toward Jeremy Corbyn. Unfortunately I didn't hear a lot on policy, only a lot of 'others not doing enough' . What would you DO, Liz? Substance.
Liz Kendall definitely supports the private sector in the NHS, she has worked for the King's Fund thinktank which is dominated by the private healthcare sector, and for Patricia Hewitt, yet another health secretary who took the revolving door into private healthcare after quitting that post.
Dreadful. Nothing to offer whatsoever.
Owen, isn't Austerity illegal in some way? Do you think we will look back in 5 years time and ask ourselves why did we let the Conservative party get away with this?
Thumbs up , if you fancy Liz Kendall .
Oh, she is? She should have said.
Jesus that was awful from Liz Kendall
Love these videos, keep it up Owen
I really like Liz as a person. She seems like a genuinely nice woman but unfortunately I think she is too similar to the Tories.
I think even deep down she knows she won't be Labour leader but fair play for her campaign.
How would New Labour policies be safe for the economy? The economy got totaled under New Labour. Far worse than anything that happened under Old Labour. Even in the Seventies at the height of the Oil Crisis, can't remember a trillion pound deficit.
+trev moffatt "The economy got totaled under New Labour. Far worse than anything that happened under Old Labour." Are you a teenager or a corbynite?
Person Well give me some facts - not bullshit media spin.
2,5 billion from the IMF in return for 3.5 billion worth of cuts. In today's money that's around a 20 billion loan for 30 billion worth of cuts.
Hardly a bail-out of 1000 billion. Or even before the 08 crisis - labour was in a 100 billion hole
You should have never listened to your PR people Liz.
Liz Kendall is probably a Fabien Society member like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Fabiens are literally 'Wolves in Sheep's Clothing' one of the detestable symbols of the Fabien Society.
What's your opinion on the mighty pat Co dell?
As much as it's good to interview people with a broad range of political opinions, I can't help but think listening to Liz Kendall's opinions on policy is a waste of time (in that, she doesn't really seem to have any definitive ideas. Also, the whole not condemning Tony Blair thing...pretty mad)
Why not interview some politicians who aren't as hounded by the national press post-election like Maggie Chapman, Patrick Harvie, Leanne Wood etc? Also, with the anniversary of the referendum coming up, why not try and get Salmond? It would be good to see him have a proper, in-depth political discussion instead of just being a bit of a hard-arse to the Tories.
When this is the Labour leadership candidate with the most common sense you know they are going to fail!
Owen, why do you think it's so hard for the left to be taken seriously anymore?
I would rather stick pins in my eyes than vote for her. As much as she protest, she is in a wrong party, confirmed by the colour of her dress.
haha you've got to laugh 'I'm the anti austerity candidate' !
Please interview Daniel hannan
That pause when asked if she would condemn Blair for working for dictators says it all. Nope.
The UK has a deficit of near to 100 billion, national debt of 2.5 trillion and national debt liabilities of near to 10 trillion.
There are no alternatives to cutting back. It has to happen.
Regret it that I put down Andy and Yvette in 2nd and 3rd. They're both snarly nasty pieces of work attacking everyone and anyone. At least Liz agrees with Owen and Jeremy that this shouldn't happen.
The smoke really doesn't go all the way up the chimney with liz kandall
"I'm a feminist because I don't think you should be asked how much you weigh." No, Liz, you should be a socialist (on so many levels) because we don't think men OR women should be asked such trivial questions.
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She's later asked about bombing in Syria: "no I think our response should be political". You mean "diplomatic" - bombing is a political response, Liz. Liz doesn't even understand the basics. I shudder if she ever got into a position of real power.
This is how good journalism works - you ask challenging questions and give the interviewee a proper opportunity to respond. Liz Kenbdall comes over as a far more reasonable person in this interview than she does in a lot of the mainstream media coverage. She's still wrong - but I wish other journalists would give Jeremy Corbyn the same respect as Owen Jones gives her.
Good honest interview and friendly exchange of ideas. Thanks for this, we need more debate like this and less insult throwing.
You didn't ask here about her pledge to reverse some of the Tory Governments trade union legislation.
Nice lady, terrible politician.
great interview thanks
I was pleased to see this. I don't think Kendall is unlikable, but I do think her policies are wrong. I also think she's come across as patronising at times, lecturing the party, which has amplified the backlash against her. I wish you had taken her more head-on on some of her statements and positions Owen, especially with regard to welfare.
She really is a lightweight. Most unconvincing. The sort of responses one hears in a pub.
One more thing. There are plenty of good reasons for wanting to vote for Jeremy Corbyn but one is being able to watch him against Cameron at PMQ's every week. I cannot wait!
It's Nicola Murray!
Need to see and hear you go more for the answer to the questions. It is all a little too nice and middle of the road....
Today, in July 2024, she is the most frightening part of the Labour party, being by far the most dim-witted, right wing, empty headed minister of the new cabinet who competes with the worst of the previous government. Mark my words - she will outdo Priti Patel in unpopularity very soon. She should join Reform because that is where her policies will be aligned.
She's in the wrong party. She's a conservative
She definitely has that 'kinda hot french teacher' look about her.
Liz's main problem is all this triangulating and not her policies. Plain speaking would serve her very well.
Are you Liz? Are you the anti-austerity candidate? Or are you just using this to try and get some support like Jeremy Corbyn has.
"I think people want change"
thats why Jeremy corbyn is so popular amongst labour voters and so feared amongst establishment politicans like liz kendal
Love how she never addressed the issue of Scotland and whether her policies will win back the voters. Same old, same old.
It's a crying shame that she's been discriminated against because of her sex/gender. There's enough shit on her from her awful and uninspired policies to keep her out of the picture, why focus on her looks rather than her principles, you know, what actually matters?
When was this shot? Its been grey clouds and rain for a while now
+Uk Gamer Just over a week ago. It has been grim outside, hasn't it?
+Owen Jones Yep probably because of the dwp revelations