Frostpunk - The Last Autumn - Unions, Docks, Communism By Bricky | First Chicago Reacts
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Sees "Work makes you free" on the front gates
The Worker says "John I think we got on the wrong boat."
Then they hear in the background "Hanz sind ze new workers here yet?"
Frostpunk is literally the definition of "The ends justify the means"
To be honest no, you can beat the game and don't go to far. Also the ending epiloge enphatise that
Disagreed: the epilogue is explicit in judging you for your extreme measures.
@@TheGallantDrake only if you go too far
What price would you pay for survival, not just of yourself but of your entire species?
That is the question frostpunk asks of it's players. At low difficulty it is nothing but a passing query, but on higher difficulties you WILL be forced to chose.
I do hope the frostpunk 2 goes much deeper in city detail and construction, but even more I hope the laws become more complex.
@@danielestoppa2260*too
"Work makes you free"
*ohno*
On topic of how I've played Frostpunk. I've always tried to not go to the extremes... But things don't always work out the way you want...
To be exatingly fair, engineers at full tilt is more like running an imperial japanese labour camp. You'll have those convicts dying like flies, but unlike with the nazi death camps them dying is not the actual goal. It's just the cost of getting work done. The construction needs to progress on schedule, and you're fueling that progress with blood. You're not actively murderous towards the convict laborers, you're just completely fucking apathetic about their survival.
It’s my opinion that the game has a deeper message in that you can actually ride the line and accomplish all your goals without going too far. However, this requires foreknowledge and I think that’s the point: the only way forward is through study and a determination to find the right way forward *before* it’s ever needed.
You can build the generator without taking it too far,but its extremely difficult. Especially the engineer route,workers will be bickering constantly and keeping motivation up from falling completely will be an everyday struggle. Its way easier with the workers in both cases,be that not stepping over the line,be that a gulag cosplay.
everybody gangsta until engineers attach "works sets you free" sign at the construction site gateway
The thing with Frostpunk and its morality is that it never forces you to go to the extreme.
The law options are given to you, but you can choose to ignore them and it is very much possible to progress without them.
But as you play, the nature of your circumstances becomes more dire.
People start dying and you might feel like you begin to lose control, you feel like its a spiral downward and every step of the way, the lines you are offered to step over become more and more alluring, more attractive.
It perfectly provides the choice and dilema of "How far are you willing to go to survive" and "How much are you willing to sacrifice to keep your morality".
It starts relatively small, as mentioned, with longer shift and rations, but it quickly devolves into a lot of worse stuff not mentioned in Brickys videos.
For example: Children are mouths to feed, but they dont give anything back in the shortterm. Are you willing to pull space and resources to build a child care center for them, effectively taking manpower and resources away from other places that you desparately need... or, do you enact child labour laws so the children might operate mines where they can fit in spaces adults cant? But that isnt enough. How far are you willing to push the childrens suffering and death for survival?`
Another example with food. Barely anything lives, or even grows in a frozen wasteland. Starvation can become normality and the dead can pile up.
But... the dead are made of flesh and bone... They are edible.
Will you still give them a proper burial to keep the deads dignity or do you decide its time to eat your dead relatives?
Where. Do. You. Draw. The. Line.
Its a peak example of art in videogame form.
Highly recommend the playthrough.
Especially the ending of the first game will test you to your limits.
Death on an unprecedented scale, whole sections of your city collapse, you cant save everyone.
The cold gets so severe that leaving their houses becomes impossible.
Everyone fends for themselves under the great storm and the bodies on the street keep piling up and the city, humanity, is sure to end, unless you, the player become the devil to save them.
Because the city MUST survive...
the thing I like the most about Frostpunk is the choices you make throughout the game. even though you could go full extreme on every side. you can also choose not to do so if you don't feel the need. you are not forced to do it and it will actually give a different ending depending on it. even will say it in the epilogue.
I didn't know you guys would be watching Bricky. Top tier pop culture channel.
They watched bricky before with the introduction to warhammer part 1 and 2 I think.
@@roxrequiem2935 everybody watched those.
But other works...no one ever did.
@@Sintarzus sad but true
@@roxrequiem2935 lol I knew him when he did warframe XD
This game is just great. I personally enjoyed the 'hard choices' tbh. This game really has it's moment where you are forced to think "I know it's wrong, but we still have to do it".. and that little dilemma is what makes this game as great as it is in my opinion.
I remember playing the base game for the first time. At the beginning I was trying to make all the 'good' choices, and during the last half of that playthrough I was some sort of a dictator, with little goon squards roaming the streets and attacking everyone who dared criticizing me openly in public. It's funny how fast this game turns you into a... monster... :D
Well, with some time and effort you can rule the city while keeping your humanity intact.
@@sciarpecyril Yeah, probably.. but honestly? You just lost me at "effort". I'd rather see my people suffer, than putting some effort into that whole saving humanity thing..
The game already made me a monster after all :D
@@nyx2903, there is more: not just preserving humanity, but also preserving lives. The campaign can be completed without a single human sacrifice and without crossing the moral horizon.
You can find a bunch of videos with a this type of playthrough, including on extreme difficulty and Surviv mode.
i wish i had this kind of imagination to make choices like this actually affect me i really liked the game but its mainly just for the gameplay/audio i really don't feel anything about these 'hard choices' in any game whether it be a chose your own adventure or a city builder im always on the side of gameplay and i just pick the option that gives me the most/best benefits without a second thought about how fucked up they would be IRL cuz to me games are just games and I've never felt those kinds of feelings while playing and it makes me jealous of people who do
I don't know what happened with this one, but someone royally screwed up the contrast and saturation. This is one disgusting video. Great content as always though!
Perhaps they're using a different camera with different settings? Idk, only this duo has the weird facecam settings ever since the others started shooting in the other studio.
@@roxrequiem2935 That could be it. They may be applying the wrong LUT on the footage. It can be anything though, I just hope they notice and correct it in the near future.
This expansion definitely adds some good flavor to the base game, and changes it up far more from what the other scenarios offer. It's shorter, but more varies, and I think it's only real problem is that some major events always happen at certain intervals so you basically know when to expect them on subsequent playthroughs. However, knowing they're coming doesn't always mean you'll be ready for them.
I'd love to see you guys react to the Spiffing Brit's videos. He has plenty about all kinds of games - as he's all about breaking/exploiting them in interesting ways - but good starts would be his "Can you beat Skyrim with a Fork challenge" and "Can you beat Skyrim Worst Sword challenge" videos, or his Fallout 4 "Can you beat Fallout 4 worst gun challenge"
An ideal game of Frostpunk is a morally bankrupt one. People are resources, nothing matters more than survival, yada yada. The game is exceedingly easy if you go too far from the outset. But the good endings are the ones in which you do the morally right thing, to put down the lawbook when you have all the necessary ones in place, to have humanity and still come out on top.
The real hard mode of the game, the real challenge is being moral on the highest difficulty. And it's still possible, but how much you have to tow the line is up to your skill in management.
And the real replayability is when you realize that the book of laws is sectioned off into rising categories, (You can tell by the changing art on the "cover of the book" in the law selection menu) and that staying within those categories means you get a different ending. If you side with the Engineers in The Last Autumn, how far do you go with them? Do you simply allow them more freedom to increase work safety, while still being at risk of strikes, do you take it a step further and become union-busters? Do you take the leap and make a penal colony? How far does the penal colony go, do you turn the worksite entirely into a labor death camp, or are they supplementary to actual workers? When you take the final law and enter the category of Subservience, there is no going back, you will get a bad ending. This is all in one single faction.
I've played Frostpunk, finished all the scenarios. The Last Autumn was great, but in all the scenarios I never had to go to the extremes. There was never a reason for me to ever go too far into Law/Religion or Labour/Engineers. Just take the good stuff and you can manage the rest. But I feel this shouldn't have been the case. I feel that these paths that you go down in the laws, they need to become a bigger thorn in your side like the Londoners. Like literally a faction in your city that you have to deal with, and they FORCE you to advance the laws towards the extremes on their paths, because they have more influence than you in your city. In my playthroughs where it asked me "we should sign this extreme" I just saw "Let's do that now" and then I didn't sign anything and closed the law screen. So I was never forced to become too much of a monster. The refugees was probably the hardest for me.
you should try hard or extreme difficulty
I kinda disagree. The real lesson to be learned from the morality system is that authoritarianism is ultimately a crutch for incompetent leadership/societies, not something necessary or desireable. If you made it mandatory to push down the law trees even for a perfect playthrough, that lesson would be perverted into the exact opposite.
Not going too far and still making it out in good shape is the real challenge of the game, and that challenge needs to be surmountable to the player for it all to work.
If you finish the Reactor before the sea freezes over, you can get the "Home for Christmas" achievement.
Translation: We're done, we're getting the hell out, throw that coal and wood off the ship, and load up the people!
frostpunk 2 was announced not long ago ... i cant wait ... looks like from the frist images oil and conflict for oil will be involved
The only game brave enough to ask you whether you’d like to be Stalin or Hitler.
A recommendation for a video would be to react to the Frostpunk 2 trailer.
It's short but looks to be leading into something great.
Also...OIL!!!
You know, I'd never heard the word panopticon until earlier this year, and now I seem to hear it everywhere. And what a great fucking word it is.
Edit: And I fucking love how much influence Hidetaka Miyazaki has in the video game industry as a whole.
As an Arizonan.. yea, that’s about right-
*grins in Russian*
@@Psycorde *grins in 40C summers*
This was a really hard video to watch, the audio was nearly unbearable and something went wrong with the camera work
You guys should react to Project Wingman Review | Nuclear Planes | Defeat the Antichrist by Max0r
Don't forget about Rimmy's Project Wingman video
I love RPG. I love playing a game that allows you to customize your character and play as you in a different world full of wonders and magic.
But most of the time, when I find myself face to face with choices, I tend to hesitate.
When I found myself forced to make a hard choice, I just couldn't.
I know it's just a game. I know it doesn't really matter. But not for me.
Every character is alive. The world they live in exist.
Shin Megami Tensei is a beloved game series for me, but each time I played them, I just can't finish it...
Frostpunk looks like an amazing game. But it's probably not for me. Such moral dilemma is so exciting to see, but to experience it would probably leave a Mark on my already fragile heart...
i've played the main scenario three times. twice as order and once as faith. the first time around i reached to the point of a propaganda center, a prison and spies but refused to go into new order. the second time around i signed a handful of laws that would be considered extreme by few but i personally found them to be not too bad.
in the third run where i ran faith i managed to get an achievment where i didn't sign any extreme or inhumane laws. the most extreme one was just building a massive temple which although was a boost to hope, was still a waste of resources. for a good part of the game i even refused to establish the "faith keepers", thinking they would be zealatous assholes.
it is definitely possible in a few scenarios to be fair, but it can be difficult if you don't have a grasp of what happens at what time.
You should react to rimmy his content is similar to sovietwomble's stuff
Attempt 2 for these 2 guys to watch Charborgs video, "i made a nursing home in rimworld". Make sure you watch till the end. He makes a little song.
I have been watching your great videos for a while now and I got a few suggestions:
Reallifelore - This is a channel that has a lot of cool info.
Alternate History Hub - Another channel with a lot of cool info but with a twist as the name says.
unnecessary censorship - This is a very funny video category.
Kings and Generals - Again another channel with great info but has more production value.
Class/Weapon/Cosmetic
Stereotypes by SoundSmith - In my opinion ( I got 1200~ hours in TF2 ) the best way to get into TF2.
Game/Film,/Food Theory - Very great channels by one person: Mat Pat.
Over 700 Stars Mysteriously Vanished In The Last 70 Years, But Why? by Anton Petrov - A very great and informative video.
Ranks Of The Nobility by The Generalist Papers - A video I wanted to watch but I would like to have ya'll watch it too.
This is the third time posting this comment until I get a comment from you guys, thanks for the great content!
My best run of this I lost only 2 guys. How did they die? They were shot for striking/rioting, yeah........
Depending on your difficulty level. If you plan VERY CAREFULLY you can avoid the worst radical laws with decent time and morals.
During high-difficulty playthroughs, YOU WON'T HAVE A BLOODY CHOICE. It gets so demanding that you'll want to get the Red TERROR and SERVITUDE as fast as possible just to barely make it past the finish line. With numerous casualties of course.
It's a vibe check man... all these other games online are so cute when they say "How do I justify this philosophical debate"
And then FROSTPUNK grabs you by the collar and says, " DO YOU WANT TO WIN OR FEEL GOOD AND LOSE?
This game isn't asking you for your viewpoint and opinions. It is a question of how many times are you going to watch yourself FAIL before you break? And Can you come up with a special plan to win?
The big difference for my first and second playthrough was being able to prepare. When you go in blind, you are making decisions in the moment that they are most valuable. You will have no idea what the consequences are and you will struggle. The second playthrough, you know what is important to focus on now and what can wait until later, as well as knowing how much to prepare for certain events in the game.
You can most definetly finish every single scenario on Extreme and Survivor mode difficulties (the hardest ones) without going too far. But the game is really unforgiving.
The thing is, these laws represent pretty greatly how being extremist just turns your on logic against itself. They start pretty great and "fair" to everyone in a sense, but the game slowly whittles down you to extremism.
I.e: You side with the engineers to increase the safety of the workplace but as you lose your hand you start getting convicts so you don't need to provide them with a safe workplace.
This shows how, as people's ideals get towards extremism, they just get nonsensical and lose their way from its original porpouse and morals.
There's something about that intro that reminds me of a late night tv show starting
You can beat it. Multiple Times if you want to. Theres even endles Mode. I also always play Order and Enginiers. Cause hitting yourself with whips aint gonna cure the cold.
You guys should watch more SovietWomble, his "Random Antistasi Bullshittery" series is really good
You can win without going to the extreams, it’s much harder for sure but it’s also how you get the best endings.
Comment is really late here - it IS possible to win without going too far in either direction, but it is not easy to do so. The hardest difficulty I’ve beaten the game on without going to extremes is Medium, and even then that was with a few previous failed runs and one successful run on easy behind me.
Frostpunk is a difficult game that will push necessity over your morals, and it’s awesome that it does that.
I played the main game and the dlc and i gotta say, fuck please lock me up for what i’ve done on that outpost.
The thing is... I think we know the canon ending to site 113's story.
spoiler warning
I think the logging settlement in on the edge was referenced to be site 113 by the people there. so we know the overseer sided with the engineers, made it a labour camp, and still failed to complete it. so not only did that go to shit fast, the people of Liverpool died anyways
for the next video could you react to "Mad Max With Spiders" by "TheRussianBadger"? it's a great video and i'm sure you'll love to see the mechanics of the game
What the hell is that noise in the back?!
Jesus, If ya gonna talk, pause the video
Bricky also reviewed a game called Subverse. You guys should react to that. ;)
That would be something.
It’s not as easy, but it’s absolutely possible to beat the game without picking any of the big moral options
So for those who don't know, Frostpunk 2 has been announced and it is in USA now, and it's also dieselpunk instead of steampunk
Allow me to recommend the channel Life of Boris if you haven't enjoyed the Slavness before. Life of Boris: Living with a loud neighbour - VADIM BLYAT! is a great video.
Please react to one of SugarPunch Design Works videos about design and characters it is easy to understand his explanation and very entertaining to watch!
Also I am not a bot just someone wanted to see them react my favorite thing
You guys should definitely react to some Hearts of Iron 4 videos, i recommend TommyKay
Watch any of the bluejay videos, preferably the history of china
Attempt 2: React to 'Hollow Souls' by Indeimaus
the lighting in this is bad you guys ._.
The background sound is kinda loud in this one.
will you do a reaction to his recent KANES WRATH video?
Edit: you will own nothing , and youll be happy -Communism.
Edit2: can you also react to No strings Prd Kane Biopic and CABAL???
You should react to lemino
More Bricky
Ty
Attempt 13
Chicago Reacts I like to know if you can react to a youtuber name Blackhole Studios the videos
INCIDENT: 069A
Madness: Black Berserk ep1 and 2
The sounds are awful.
Communism vs Capitalism
More like fascism but ok.
@@MouldMadeMind A classist system where workers are oppressed and manipulated for the sake of efficiency, yup definitely fascists right there.
@@havyn88 so you can tell me how this is capitalism?
this is not capitalism , this is facism vs communism.
@@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892 my mistake, this is capitalistic fascism vs fake communism tainted by traditional classism.