Why 350,000 VW and Audi cars were stored In graveyards across America
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- Why 350,000 VW and Audi cars were stored In graveyards across America
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I remember driving by a bunch of those VWs in Colorado on my way to Denver. Last time I drove that route they were gone, I wondered what they did with them. Imagine if VW had invested that 35 billion in EV development instead of paying fines for cheating. They would be in a much better position today.
With Tesla demonstrating that even its brand-spanking-new LFP megapacks aren't immune to thermal runaway in Australia yesterday, forcing a whole town to stay indoors with doors and windows closed to limit exposure to toxic megapack fumes, many components of which have as-of-yet-unknown safety data sheet properties. I wouldn't be surprised if many government decided to roll back their EV incentives due to EV fires being exceedingly toxic and still impossible to extinguish.
Nope it would have gone into stock buybacks enriching VW CEOs
You don't say, Einstein
not a novel idea. this is exactly what Elon proposed to government agencies when they were deciding on how to punish VW when the scandal was admitted in 2015.
Great point Frank, well said 👏
Cars stored in the desert don’t rust away, that’s why they’re in the desert. The southwestern desert is also where hundreds of military and commercial planes are stored.
The question will be who will be in charge of scrapping all ice vehicles in 10-15 years time when they are outlawed, nobody in any government will have the balls to do it,demolish all the petrol stations around the world, how many decades will this take 😆😆😆
A couple of years ago, these (diesel) emissions made me upgrade the interior/cabin air filter to a hepa/activated carbon type. The difference is very large; i strongly recommend it to everyone driving around in heavy (city) traffic. The amount of polution from accelerating cars, vans, light trucks, etc. is insane. Take care of your health and change to a high quality cabin air filter!
The highway is not a place to be. I see these guys touring the country on their bikes, cars whatever. They should do a before and after lungs comparison.
@@12villages"highway not a place to be..."
is that really practical for everyone?
I mean for 100s of thousands of people it's basically essential
Any suggestions on brands of filters, etc? Thanks.
@@adamesd3699 There are several brands with a focus on filter products.
I would opt for a well known/"A" brand and for an activated carbon type of filter. Just HEPA quality doesn't prevent bad fumes/gasses entering the cabin (personal experience). But HEPA quality is always (much) better than the standard cabin air filters most workshops use to replace the old one.
Personally i prefer Mann, but (for example) Stark or Meyle could also do the job.
Replace the filter every 9-12 months (you will notice when the activated carbon is completely consumed). Changing the cabin air filter is not a lot of work.
@@stefan2796Cool! Thanks much. Will look those up.
Thanks for this update. I wondered what happened to the recalled vehicles. Yikes
What A Great Recap, and a Forward Honest Evaluation! 👍😎
Great educational info.
The reason VWs and Audi cars were worth a lot less than new ones is that they are not very reliable. After about 60-100k, the plastic hoses and connectors become very brittle and easy to break. And that is just the connectors. It is a shame really because diesel engines can last longer than gasoline engines. But the scandal was a big mess. I think there were and are political implications for Germany-US trade relations.
this is really sad. image if electify america was built out with the same passion tesla had for their superchargers. vw would have continued to be top 2 car companies.
The area is also a storage place for airplanes. 🇨🇦
Damn, I had to stop the video several times and check what the heck was banging on my walls haha
23,752 battery Porches recalled for fire.
Funny that you talk about graveyards or salvage yards. Salvage yards here in the USA won't take any teslas. They are too much of a fire risk. one salvage yard owner took a tesla and a few days later it started a huge fire that the local fire department couldn't put out. When it finally burned out, it restarted the next day. The fire department forced him to dig a hole and bury it after that. Fire departments will now charge thousands of dollars if they have to go to a junk yard to put out a Tesla fire.
Well, the batteries are actually quite valuable and that is why the battery should be removed before delivered to the salvage yard.
A simple search on google shows that salvage auto yard fires are quite common and they are really hard to control
This is about fire department and salvage operators in need of training.
yep, the sequestration solution.. lol (oh the fans will weep - cobalt tinted tears)...
Sources for your claim?
@@joergmaasssounds like complete hyperbole.
The Pontiac silver dome parking lot was the spot outside of detroit that Sam mentioned. It’s now an Amazon facility. The rumor in the D is that these cars all found their way south of the border, to Africa and the Middle East. They all disappeared over a few weeks after Amazon closed the deal to buy the land.
Volkswagen has not yet decided which option it will choose for disposing of the vehicles. The company has said that it will make a decision once it has bought back all of the affected vehicles and developed a plan for how to dispose of the vehicles in a way that is environmentally friendly.
Given that the production of steel for one car (including EVs) produces about 1 ton of CO2, seeing these number of cars just wasting away on parking lots is simply appalling.
What a waste of resources! They should have hired,trained everyone without a job to recycle this. You could start up a whole new town of employees to work this problem.
Thank you. Someone who shares my sentiments. Companies should be seriously penalized and either forced to recycle or be forced to give them to a company that cans. To see all that waste really annoys me.
They could also remove the engines, exhaust, etc. Leave it as a body and sell them at massive discount, ready for EV conversion.
@@theproffessional9 I bet VW looked into converting to gas but the numbers didn't work. Sometimes it's just better to eat a loss and don't pour good money after bad.
The only thing i like about VW is their glass, has a cool green tint to it. The rest of the cars are junk.
Thanks Sam. What a waste! Many people who cant afford new cars but are good at tinkering would love to buy these cars to fix! Nobody ever let a bit of rust stop the vintage car enthusiast from restoring them. Some don't even worry that they are not road worthy.
But we don't want these engines in use.
@@danharold3087 - performance tuners possibly do - they run better than the compliant ones.
Cheers Sam
Old news. They were parked near the southern California logistics airport. They’re all gone now, have been. Oh. Most likely sold in South America or Mexico.
Great 🎉
It’s not just vw remember nearly every major car manufacturer was at it
Vw is being made a example of but look further and you will see they were all at it
Yes Mercedes are still at it
Waste of cars is waste of cars. Whether that is China or US. There should be a penalizing tax for it.
Vw paid plenty.
@@steven4315 No they didn't. Did you not pay attention? They paid for the toxic fumes (those involved should get the death penalty or go to jail for life for giving people cancer). This has to do with recycling.
We have one of them here in Co
Thanks for the info, however in the desert they will hardly rust away.
Hi Sam, greetings from the U.K. Terrible waste, as other commenters have stated, so many people could benefit from these vehicles; which whilst not perfect, would be a big improvement over much older diesels out there still running and polluting. VW has lost the plot since the turn of the century, 1990’s VW cars were the cream of the crop. VW forgot that they are an engineering company, and became lead by accountants and marketers. The result is disastrous!
People say the same about Boeing.
Well, it was engineers that failed to deliver legit low emissions. And the engineers designed the cheat mechanism.
@@joniboulware1436 I expect one can follow the money all the way back to the board room.
@@danharold3087I was thinking the same thing, you said it first!
Good evening Mate
惊掉我的眼球 哇哦 这么多就浪费了
Aye Victorville! That's where I grew up 🤙🏼
Oops VW and Audi
There's an old saying it's called getting too big for your boots.
They should have to buy back every single affected car.
Thank you very much for this new information. I previously thought "new car graveyards" are only existed in China.
Certainly larger than the china EV graveyard!
If they sold them at cost how much could they recover?
Crazy
There are currently so many often new substances added to our daily lives that blaming emissions for rising cancer feels like the easy way out. Don't forget the explosive growth of mobile networks/satellites and new chemicals during the past decade.
Funny how people got arrested in this scandal... but nobody got arrested for stealing people's money during the Lehman shock.
Is that why they can't make affordable cars any more? ;-)
Did they make more than one car for each car they really sell? ;-)
Others make a car and sell it, some make 2 cars to sell one - or whatever the ratio is ;-)
😱
VW should ship them to the Ukraine. They could be outfitted with simple remote control devices and driven in fleets across the Russian minefields. These would then provide a very useful service.
Afterwards being excellent scrap metal. They could also transport injured and bring food and supplies to the front line.
VW could donate them as a charitable deduction to a mine clearing, and soldier assistance program.
VW could actually start their own charity do this and get additional cash and car donations to support the Ukrainians.
Good idea, but it would require Volkswagen to do something useful for once, so I'm afraid it won't fly. Moreover, it will take Volkswagen management so long to decide and set up the necessary organisational structures and committees that the Ukraine war will be over before they get into gear.
Hello mate
You should fix your statement. Cars don’t rust in the desert. That’s why the military stores its equipment in the dry heat. No rust.
Couldn't they be fitted with gasoline engines? Or fitted with the piss tanks as I thought that was part of the issue.
greed is destructive. for example, vws greed has destroyed any desire to ever have another vw ever again.
Auto executives need to get jail time for these criminal actions, they don't care about fines. When you make a decision that knowingly causes more deaths than any serial killer how are fines appropriate?
Nice speach, but e.g. Swiss customers after a lately published law suit information even do not get any refund being cheated by Volkswagen group. Even worse I used to be in PE/OE in 1994 and asked the heads of German Education Responsibles of Industry and Universities/Highschools 7 questions on 8 systems qualities. At Volkswagen 3 out of 8 qualities had really bad figures. So we warned the company that they will have a real problem becoming more and more obvious in coming years. 1994 was long before Dieselgate as a culmination point of an internal value problem caused mainly by the families Porsche/Piëch and since the early days of VAG. After war a long range of string puppets had to run the company but the structures never changed. Even when the initial Beatle started to fail and the future of the company was not so sure. Then famous cost cutters came into play to only make the products as good as necessary and more and more adressing ‚believers‘. Few years they had a high run and made many acquisitions because also of governments support and quality of German workers and engineers. With the pressure however more and more rental workers from the east fixed the cars and engineering had more and more different problems they could mainly hide thanks to media influence and corruption. In the meantime other manufacturers got more and more competitive products, some had even better products. So Volkswagen wanted to stay on top everywhere at any price, also the truth about reality. They lost what we call relationship truth and functional justice as a non grounded management asked for the impossible up to the point where tier one suppliers like BOSCH and engineers in house of VW, Audi mainly responsible for engines lost personal integrity. That Renault supplying engines also to Mercedes used the same tricks seems for me clearly stem from cooperation with BOSCH as they would not have shared such issues with VAG directly. Also BOSCH in many occasions seems more interested in business and control of markets than in truth about realities so that fitted well together for cheating the authorities and ALL other serious players that also lost their markets! Punish some string puppets and pay fines however is not enough and for no company anywhere. Stellantis/PSA had e.g. as the first company ‚clean‘ Diesels according to the rules but they were expensive so they have also been punished by misbehavior of an unfair competitor. This must have more severe consequences than for just individuals and keep in mind that all those managers got millions for not doing the job towards the LIFE of as many as possible but just to keep the job long enough before being fired!🤔🤥😵💫🤮
Please read up on the story and the people involved.
Wonder why serpentza and his numb head other guy don’t do videos about this
Probably because they fid not make the video to attack EVs but the Chinese government who forced them away from their home in China when they never said anything bad about China prior to their exodus.
He is blind to all the West's problems and fallacies 😂😂😂😂
Chinese emissions standards for cars are a deceptive myth, when the vast majority their electricity is generated from hydrocarbon fuels (i.e. coal!).
were the European cars getting that bad of emissions?missed the boat of making ev,s out of all those cars
Chile is dumping used cars, tires and unsold clothes from free trade countries in the Americas, Europe and Asia in the Atacama desert.
I thought you meant actual graveyards 🤣
AI Sam rocks!!!! edit: Still uncanny though - but I like the content.
Finally I found a comment about AI Sam, I was starting to think I was the only one thinking this was AI!😁
China (and other countries) will just dump ICE cars here because even after our emission standards come into effect, they are inadequate. Inaction by successive Australian governments has made Australia the ICE dumping ground of the world - another reason why we don't get a wide range of electric vehicles here (ie they would rather get rid of their ICE vehicles that they can't sell elsewhere due to emissions standards practically everywhere else).
Not just Austrailia but most of Latin america, South America Africa, the list is pretty long.
Imagine if there were an "upgrade path"... that Audi made a "conversion kit".,. Of course newer, purpose built EVs make this an uncompetitive idea, but sure *is* a shame all these vehicles are mothballed
I say auction them all off, get approval for use, the health department can help aprove as tested as like new or not drivable, nobody makes those anymore anyways. People could use a car for a few grand plus shipping.
It’s no human right that anybody must have a car to drive around. It just makes no sense to sell cars that poison us ALL. It would be killing ourselves and even Africa and Australia must get rid of that dirty technology. The companies however must recycle all that crap laying around because also that polluted our environment. Also China will pay a high price for their EV graveyard and also it’s real cause. Also there the ressources must be recycled at any price! We owe that to our children and next generations!
A lot of good scrap parts wasted
No you got it wrong Sam. Serpenzta the serpent told me personally that the thousands of cars shown here was a lot in China.
Serpentza the serpent was given the lead about the 360,000 cars graveyards in USA but he ignored it and then fabricated a story about China's "graveyards".
Crassy world.....
I think all those cars that are not going to be sold I have no need for them to be over here they should be turned over to a shredding place and then shredded 100%. And although shredding should be given to Elon musk to turn into cars that we would actually drive.... Or some day maybe fly
@0:20 _rusting away?_ They're in the driest desert on this continent.
They take years and years to develop any rust.
The window seals will crack and fall away letting the dust blow in before there's any rust.
The ones that rusted were not in the desert, then.
why not resell them at a huge loss and make something vs nothing. outstanding management at VW 🤣
Fwiw cars dont rust in Cali desert ! No rain 😊
This video is in response to ev graveyards in China, same the world over, too many cars being produced, not enough buyers.
You look like you just got out of bed! hahahahaha
Sam the EU has scraped EURO7 emissions standards.
Should have donated them to Africa
And kill them with cancer?!
Diesels and EVs are aboninations
Send them to Australia, people here will buy them discounted and use them. They produce less toxic gas than EV on fire that's for sure!
For these to be responsible for last 10yr "rise" in cancer. These vehicle's would have to be worse polluters than those that came before them.Think you'll find thats not the case. There the same polluters as those before them.
Maybe its electromegnetic field's 😂 just kidding.
VW doesnot rust....
haha
What was all that brown stuff all over my Golf then?
It was to be expected that China would strike back like this after all those reports of EV graveyards in China. Always accuse the other guy of what they are accusing you of.
And if they're true?
Then what?
We've red and blue politicians in UK nowt to choose they're all bent as 9 Bob notes.
If you accuse someone of doing something horrible, yet you do the same thing, I don't think you should be surprised if someone calls you out for the hypocrisy
yep, suggesting the other side are hypocrites by suggesting that what it does is somehow comparable to what happens in China is the basis of all Chinese diplomacy. @@hdhdhshscbxhdh4195
How very Trumpian
No, accusing the other guy of whatever they accuse you of is very Xi-Jinpingian. Putin is from the same school of diplomatic doctrine BTW. @@PaleBlueDotCitizen
How much more polluting to the environment was this solution than simply allowing the vehicles to keep running with their increased emissions? They could have put all the wasted money towards airborne particulate related health issues. Dumb dumb dumb.
Breaking the max legal pollution limit by up to 400% each car so across the world they should have been taken off all roads and scrapped immediately with far more fines and criminal company broken-up and sold off as their actions 2006-2020 was deliberate. Biggest industrial crooks the world has ever seen.
More misinformation 👎👎
@serpentza