In the scene where we could have shot him we (me and my brother) spared him. When Connor showed up at that same scene we refused to go onto the roof. Simon survived throughout the rest of our play through.
Simon is possibly one of the best choice-matter characters in the game. Simon can do lots of shit to save Markus at the expense of his own life, as well as sacrifice himself to save Jericho. The downside is that the player, from my memory, doesn't get to learn about Simon before he ends up joining Jericho. Nevertheless, Simon is a grand example of a character who can do multiple actions, depending on what choices the player makes.
Season Springal if I remember correctly when Connor was analyzing files with hank I saw that Simon used to work at a fast food place. But other than that I don't think we know anything else
@@twinkleshine3096 yes she can as can john at least once.. John(you get Cyber life Warehouse) savesMarkus at the freedom March if you choose to sacrifice Markus. It's sad either way you slice it someone has to die I suppose it shows that in revolution there's always loss. You can't prevent someone from dying but you can minimize your losses I suppose.
Sayaam I feel like all you do is go on videos where Simon is mentioned just to hate on him for no reason at all except that other people like him more than North. Have your North fanclub but leave other people alone why are you so damn negative? Accept the fact that people don’t like her with Markus and focus more on her than Simon because apparently you spend your entire day hating on him and people who like him.
Sayaam it’s perfectly fine if you don’t like the ship but you’re constant hate on him and the people who ship it is so mean and unnecessary, why don’t you just ship north and markus and leave people alone who don’t like them together? you’re constant hate is very toxic
Simon: take my heart bro! Markus: but bro, you'll die! Simon: *cupping his cheek* I'm not living if you're not beside me bro... Markus: *softly* bro....
Simon is such an underrated character. He’s the kind of friend that would put your needs first before his and he’ll always have your back. Simon is the real MVP 😩🔥
North as a character is great, but her and Markus just don't meld well as a couple. I think she could have been much more likable if she wasn't just lodged with him and got to do her own thing.
north is a very very good character but her lovers path is very rushed and poorly written. her and markus don't mesh well as a couple if markus is pacifistic, and i can kind of see it if markus is violent. simon would've been an excellent love interest for markus, but it's a david cage game.
*has a whole series of keeping Simon alive and treating him well through the entire game, having an emotional connection* *nothing* *touches hands with north* *LOVERS*
Game be like Choice: Press this button and everyone will live Peacefully ever after North: Don't press that button Markus *presses the button* Public Opinion *Increases to Supportive* Jericho *Increases to Leader* Josh's Relationship *Increases to Companion* Simon's Relationship *Increases to Companion* Luther & Kara & Alice *Survives and became Family* Connor & Hank *Survives and became Companion* North *Decreases to Hostile* North: WHaT aRE yOu dOInG...? DOnT EVer dO THat AGaiN...
@@mcpaskajatka7249 There's a way to kill her? Please tell, she's annoying and her choices would have let to Jericho's downfall. Even with her past, she would have at least learned to hold back from her other friends.
Simon story over Kara's any day of the week. (WHen I look at Daniel. Simon was probably a house keeper too so the story would be the same. Just Simon matters, Kara doesnt.
I never liked North at all and I never will but are you kidding me? I always hated how blood thirsty she always was for humans but to want to kill one of their own kind without a second thought when there can always be a second option is just horrible. And the fact that she gets upset when Marcus doesn't shoot and is actually proud/happy when he does makes me dislike her even more.
Pancake-Chan she was upset because there was a chance they would be able to find Jericho and kill the Androids there and she is so bloodthirsty because she was an abused sex bot for years
I never liked North either, but I do understand where she’s coming from. She was basically a sex slave her whole life before coming to Jericho and I don’t blame her if she wants to spill blood. Though she will never agree with some of the choices Markus makes, she does stay by your side and help fight with you anyways.
it’s so upsetting to me that the only love interest markus gets is north. north is bloodthirsty and wants markus to kill and every given opportunity but simon??? oof he was like “oh you’re dying? here take my actual heart.” i love simon
@Abigail Pritchard Yo I think they just threw that info in there to calm ppl down, but they never actually made an effort to make a male love interest. "Making story too complicated" sounds like a BS to me :/
Wow I didn't even know Simon would literally give his life to save yours during the Revolution. That's probably one of the most powerful scenes for Markus besides the scenes with Carl.
I think that simon always loved Markus, because, if you look carefuly, simon always tries to protect markus and in the most of choices, simon agrees (Sorry if i write something wrong, english is not my native language, is spanish)
@@completetrash7205 not all of them. If you steal the bus tickets all of them make it. Edit: whoops I missed your "almost" I thought you said he died in all of them
My biggest plot hole when Connor pretended to be Markus, I just thought shouldn't Simon know Markus knows where Jericho is? Why would you just give him the location when he should already know?🤔🤔 Also Connor sounded so adorable at 4:14 when he said he was ok. Protect him. 😢😢
Well I mean he's very badly damaged, probably doesn't have access to all his memories, and is shocked/scared. That's how I'd try to explain it, anyway.
Let's also remember how in this single video, there is a moment when Connor simply touches Simon and access its memories - and when he revives Simon, on this other route, he just can't simply touch it to probe its memories?
*I just love Simon. I feel like before people were making these videos about him he was really underrated. And I see more and more people who think that Simon and Marcus would make a better couple that Marcus and North, AND I AGREE 100%, but that's just my opinion.*
I find it funny how a 10 second scene without words between Markus and Simon made me feel more than a whole conversation between Markus and North talking about their past. It just shows how the relationship between Markus and Simon manages to be more well written than the one between Markus and North, even though they're supposed to be a couple. I guess this is the reason it's bad, after all.
If you decide not to go to the roof and go straight to interrogating the androids instead as Connor after having Markus leave Simon, then Simon won’t be found and he’ll meet up with Jericho later and him and Markus will hug. And then if you do everything right as Markus, then no one has to sacrifice for him and everyone lives. Also you have to be on a pacifist run.
You'd think Simon would be all "Markus, why the HECK did you shoot me?! I thought we were friends!?" But this game doesn't try to change dialogue depending on emotional outcomes of certain choices.
There was a reason to shoot Simon. I almost shot Simon myself until he was like "Yo, don't shoot me." I think he understands that, which is why he's less angry than he would be if Markus just spontaneously turned around and shot him. Emotion clouds judgement and, in his time, he's just been shot. Maybe he thought that Markus never planned to let him die. Maybe he's just happy that he's not dead. Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws.
Honestly, I agree with the thought that Simon should've been a love interest as well. I feel like North would've been the love interest for those who wanted to go with a violent route. While Simon could've been the love interest for the people who wanted to take a passive route. They really do be missing out on dat 😔
I do agree that Simon was cool but then again north who doesn’t want to be pacifist even when you do go passive she still goes on with you and turns Markus also she wants to kill the humans so much because of the things that happended to her when she was in her former work (sex robot like in the eden club)
@@wilsonsmith2903 Yeah Ik, I'm just agreeing that they had a nice inclusive opportunity. I'm not saying that North is a bad character (Leaving out the fact I don't like her all that much) She's actually a good person, and I 100% agree with her in some cases. If I were her I'd hate humans too lol
Snxwy thanks for taking my opnion into consideration most people just hate her for no reason because they think “Simon would have made a better partner”
@@wilsonsmith2903 Exactly! People need to realise that North is there for a reason, Not just to annoy you or force you into violence. I actually like her character, I just found her a tiny bit annoying at times. But I still love her lol
Because it was understandable. A dead Simon can't (they think) be interrogated. They don't know about Connor's little necromancy trick but even if they did, killing the straggler would still make them safer.
ghost in the machine Well, they are made out of plastic and metal, have organs made by the same materials and they also have a lot of blue blood in them. I'd say they weigh a lot.
ThePS4Gamer true but because you see humans hitting/punching androids without hurting themselves or androids hitting/punching humans without it being an instant TKO I always wonder how much they weigh compared to a human.
...well, except that their feet and lower bodies are still a bit far apart. Men typically hug like that when we want manly-man hugs but _Heaven forbid that our _*_dicks_*_ should rub against each other._ :-/ (...and that's why fully homosexual hugs are the _best,_ kids! Frot away with wild abandon! :-D )
8:43 isn't there a gay ship with markus and simon? cmon, look what simon says. "Our hearts are compatible.'. I ship it. Edit: holy shit 200 likes? Another edit: 300 LIKES!?
Shoot the guy who runs out of the broadcast room and Simon will be okay. I did that on my first playthrough, and it shocked me like hell to find out that Simon could be left behind (and be found by Connor)
De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt... :p I mean, he was programmed to think Deviancy was a big no-no, of course he'd ignore being one for as long as possible...
The fact that Connor is conflicted by his possible deviancy is what's most fascinating about him. He doesn't want to be a deviant, he wants to obey as he should and just do as he's programmed. There are so many instances where he seems to feel emotions but then tries to explain them away like they didn't happen or don't matter. He doesn't want to be corrupted in that sense. It's fascinating.
4:40 being the true moment Connor turned Deviant. Openly admitting he could actually feel emotions such as Fear, Whereas in the beginning he'd have just shrugged it off and called it an error in his or another Android's software.
Dont hit me with that"Our hearts are compatible " bulls hit before you die. What you trying to do? Break my heart even more? I already can't romance simon and now this?
Markus and north vs Markus and Simon ... who's relationship is better???my vote goes to Markus and Simon👍👍👍 Edit:Thank you so much for all those likes and replying to my question
Kaushal Chaudhary Personally, I believe that Markus and Simon have more chemistry than North and Markus. Too bad that Markus isn’t able to romance Simon like North, but hey, that’s just my opinion.
LOOK AT THE WAY SIMON LOOKS AT MARKUS WHEN HE SACRIFICES HIMSELF DURING THE FREEDOM MARCH. THAT LOOK IN HIS EYES IS JUST SO. RELIEVED. AND SO SAD. AND IN PAIN. BUT HE'S HAPPY. HAPPY BECAUSE HIS DEATH MEANS MARKUS CAN LIVE ON. david cage is a lazy coward for not making simon a possible love interest. he and markus have so much chemistry you can just s m e l l it.
pacifist Markus and Simon made so much more sense as a couple than Markus did with North. Wish there was an option for either North or Simon based on the character you build Markus up to be
At the end of the first sacrifice that guy was the only human left so why didn’t they beat the shit out of him and save Simon. Edit: yes I know after checking that there were more out of frame.
that our hearts are compatible reminds me a touchy moment at the end of terminator salvation,when from the looks of it john was about to die,when markus approach em and said something like "give him mine."
Simon and Markus being together are much more compatible, whilst for North and Markus it felt forced and after the game would probably be some smooth sailing until a break up happens.
I'd say that at that moment, Josh was going through a phase of 'I don't know what we should choose to do', because Simon was his friend and all. So a moment of emotional trama basically.
The trauma in Connor’s voice at 4:13 really hit hard because he was trying to remain a machine to complete his mission but when he was traumatized and felt the “void of death” he became more human in a way. It just hit hard because of that moment.
I feel like North was actually a pretty good love interest but i would also like to see the Simon love path. A lot of factors would’ve played into developing it though, and there’s probably a lot of things that blocked it from happening. Oh well, I still like North despite what a lot of people say. She’s not bad tbh.
So many possibilities. That last scene giving Markus his battery, and the Connor rooftop scenes were great. Masterpiece of a game! When I didn't help Simon at the tower, since I didn't know him much and was trying to save my own skin of course, I didn't know he could have become such an important character. RIP Simon.
This game is so well done, holy crap The interactions, the decisions and everything else just makes it whole This is one of those games where you could get lost and lose track of time
Yea, the whole reason of shooting Simon was to make sure they couldn’t get evidence out of him. But even after getting shot in the head he still works apparently.
Vincent Valentine they are the same model y'know? Cause kamski wouldn't just make every android different, you see 2 josh models in the game, without counting josh, 4 north models on the eden club and daniel, which is the same model as simon, something funny is that the only characters you don't see more models of are markus, kara and connor, i think cuantic dream wanted us to think of them more as people than androids, and here is your answer, hope i helped
You actually do see other Kara models around the city and at Jericho. You also see another Connor model when you're trying to convert the androids at the CyberLife tower. I think the only one we don't see is Markus.
Haskypasky yeah because Marcus is a model that kamski made specially and exclusively for karl, so we never saw any other models like marcus throughout the game
they should’ve kissed in the reunion and “our hearts are compatible” scenes. peaceful + alive simon = reunion kiss. violent + alive simon = compatible hearts kiss.
I just realized I accidentally kept him alive the whole game like jesus there were a lot of places he could have died
Rose Been Same I lost him at the end though because when he got shot at the war place getting back to deviants I just let him die.
RIGHT!? SAME!!
Jesus?
Did you mean: Markus?
@@theman_themyth_themoth758 Markus is the "Robo Jesus"
In the scene where we could have shot him we (me and my brother) spared him. When Connor showed up at that same scene we refused to go onto the roof. Simon survived throughout the rest of our play through.
Simon literally gave him his heart, holy shit.
starchild, wat?
I ship it
SimonXMarkus
Sarkus or marmon
Pile Of Crap simarkus
I cried, ugh the feels
“our hearts are compatible” o o f
Simon is possibly one of the best choice-matter characters in the game. Simon can do lots of shit to save Markus at the expense of his own life, as well as sacrifice himself to save Jericho. The downside is that the player, from my memory, doesn't get to learn about Simon before he ends up joining Jericho. Nevertheless, Simon is a grand example of a character who can do multiple actions, depending on what choices the player makes.
Season Springal if I remember correctly when Connor was analyzing files with hank I saw that Simon used to work at a fast food place. But other than that I don't think we know anything else
Lmao I just let him die in the tower, didn't even get him to the roof.
@@caylamarie777 I wouldn't know I don't take Connor to the rooftop..Thumbs down for being a dumbass.
North also can save Markus many times.
@@twinkleshine3096 yes she can as can john at least once.. John(you get Cyber life Warehouse) savesMarkus at the freedom March if you choose to sacrifice Markus. It's sad either way you slice it someone has to die I suppose it shows that in revolution there's always loss. You can't prevent someone from dying but you can minimize your losses I suppose.
Markus: literally murders his friend
North: *M O I S T*
OML 🤣🤣🤣
Onb i hate that bitch
Sayaam Why do you hate simon sherlock
Sayaam I feel like all you do is go on videos where Simon is mentioned just to hate on him for no reason at all except that other people like him more than North. Have your North fanclub but leave other people alone why are you so damn negative? Accept the fact that people don’t like her with Markus and focus more on her than Simon because apparently you spend your entire day hating on him and people who like him.
Sayaam it’s perfectly fine if you don’t like the ship but you’re constant hate on him and the people who ship it is so mean and unnecessary, why don’t you just ship north and markus and leave people alone who don’t like them together? you’re constant hate is very toxic
Captain America shield is made of vibranium. Markus’s shield is made of simon
ಠ╭╮ಠ
Stronger than any material
Hawkeye shield is made of quicksilver
and hawkeye's shield is made of quicksilver
@@fukaze2021 oh god we thunk the same thing
You know the bromance is strong when Simon literally gives his heart to Markus.
Yyyeah... "BROmance..."
Simon: take my heart bro!
Markus: but bro, you'll die!
Simon: *cupping his cheek* I'm not living if you're not beside me bro...
Markus: *softly* bro....
Yup
Bros before hoes.
And unlike with North, he doesn't give Markus the option. He saves him no matter what he says.
North: We have to shoot him.
Simon: Uh... I can hear you guys.
No wonder Simon said to leave north when she got shot lol
North: no you don’t you have bullets In your leg shut up
@@dellbelphine304 simon:QnQ ok...
Lol sad simon hours
@@npcimknot958 He said that because he lost his mind. Poor North.
@@npcimknot958 LMAO
Simon is such an underrated character. He’s the kind of friend that would put your needs first before his and he’ll always have your back. Simon is the real MVP 😩🔥
Optional Gaming I KNOW RIGHT ive seen so many youtubers getting simon killed
»»✿ SαyυʀiღChαη ✿«« That’s a bummer. He’s a true homie
Yes thank you
Android Simon PL600 :)
Optional Gaming He is one of the worst characters.
Simon is just so much better than North as a love interest.
Ichronic Pain North is cool but Simon is definitely better.
North as a character is great, but her and Markus just don't meld well as a couple. I think she could have been much more likable if she wasn't just lodged with him and got to do her own thing.
YAS
north is a very very good character but her lovers path is very rushed and poorly written. her and markus don't mesh well as a couple if markus is pacifistic, and i can kind of see it if markus is violent. simon would've been an excellent love interest for markus, but it's a david cage game.
No its disgusting
*has a whole series of keeping Simon alive and treating him well through the entire game, having an emotional connection*
*nothing*
*touches hands with north*
*LOVERS*
Game be like
Choice: Press this button and everyone will live Peacefully ever after
North: Don't press that button
Markus *presses the button*
Public Opinion *Increases to Supportive*
Jericho *Increases to Leader*
Josh's Relationship *Increases to Companion*
Simon's Relationship *Increases to Companion*
Luther & Kara & Alice *Survives and became Family*
Connor & Hank *Survives and became Companion*
North *Decreases to Hostile*
North: WHaT aRE yOu dOInG...? DOnT EVer dO THat AGaiN...
Yeah I was pissed too
I killed north just for fun
@@mcpaskajatka7249 lmao same
@@mcpaskajatka7249 There's a way to kill her? Please tell, she's annoying and her choices would have let to Jericho's downfall. Even with her past, she would have at least learned to hold back from her other friends.
If you manage to get both Simon and Luther to the end, you deserve a medal. Or a trophy.
Note: Without the help of the Internet of course
Just go passive with Markus and take Luther to Canada with Kara
Wiz Kid Now tell me how do you know this information?
Do you even read the note?
Yağız Selimoğlu cause it got it in my ending. I didn't get anyone killed in my first playthrough except Daniel and the android you interrogate
Wiz Kid You deserve a trophy then
I did it on my first playthrough but I got north killed lol
Poor Simon, feels like he could've been one of the main characters... (in my heart he is)
Simon story over Kara's any day of the week. (WHen I look at Daniel. Simon was probably a house keeper too so the story would be the same. Just Simon matters, Kara doesnt.
Why growtopia is famous?
@@Dark_Voice I agree with all forces of my being
Did u guys see how Hank held Connor in his arms? Awwww he actually does care.😭
Random Stranger He is like his dad, and its so cute
(Im kazakh, so i cant speak english, just know a little)
Having Connor and Simon die the same time kills me
stop crying like a bitch curse
@@sayaam8221 ?
@@Captain_Chromosome what?
I never liked North at all and I never will but are you kidding me? I always hated how blood thirsty she always was for humans but to want to kill one of their own kind without a second thought when there can always be a second option is just horrible. And the fact that she gets upset when Marcus doesn't shoot and is actually proud/happy when he does makes me dislike her even more.
Pancake-Chan she was upset because there was a chance they would be able to find Jericho and kill the Androids there and she is so bloodthirsty because she was an abused sex bot for years
I never liked North either, but I do understand where she’s coming from. She was basically a sex slave her whole life before coming to Jericho and I don’t blame her if she wants to spill blood. Though she will never agree with some of the choices Markus makes, she does stay by your side and help fight with you anyways.
TheLoserThatDraws exactly
Pancake-Chan i agree 100% with you
I hated her not because she's bloodthirsty but cus she's an annoying bitch
it’s so upsetting to me that the only love interest markus gets is north. north is bloodthirsty and wants markus to kill and every given opportunity but simon??? oof he was like “oh you’re dying? here take my actual heart.” i love simon
Why is every gay character's name Simon?? What the heck. But also absolutely yes.
Simon: Baby
Cause that's gay
@Abigail Pritchard This game is the literal definition of complicated but adding a second love interest was too much? Yeah that makes sense.
@Abigail Pritchard Yo I think they just threw that info in there to calm ppl down, but they never actually made an effort to make a male love interest. "Making story too complicated" sounds like a BS to me :/
@@walkingdead3097 Might've been time constraints as well, or weaving it into the story in such a way that it feels natural.
Simon said “Take my heart to yours.”
*yours."
Thomas Garcia thx
Simon: here take my heart there compatible marcus: I can't let u do that me: you have to dammit
*my class yells at my back*
Teacher:WTH are you watc- *sees that scene*
Teacher:im going to confiscate your phone for umm... disturbing the class...
Wow I didn't even know Simon would literally give his life to save yours during the Revolution. That's probably one of the most powerful scenes for Markus besides the scenes with Carl.
I think that simon always loved Markus, because, if you look carefuly, simon always tries to protect markus and in the most of choices, simon agrees
(Sorry if i write something wrong, english is not my native language, is spanish)
i think so. maybe carl saw this scene will suprise "well, you found your love now, markus"
carl is my favorite human character in DBH
imma start calling him Sacrifice Boi.
Nice evo in profile pic
Вадим Коневский You sure that's his car? XD
Don't hit me with that emotion
accurate.
branden taylor Sacrifice friend..
"Markus? Is that you, Markus? Don't leave me again, Don't leave!"
Aaaaaaaargh I feel bad lmao
“I was *scared* “ BABY BOY ITS OK
One of my favorites and he has the most chances of dying. ._.
Izo ikr!! Also Luther is one of my favorites and he dies almost all of the endings :(
@@completetrash7205 not all of them. If you steal the bus tickets all of them make it.
Edit: whoops I missed your "almost" I thought you said he died in all of them
Rachel Hughes if you steal the tickets luther can still die if you sacrifice him
My biggest plot hole when Connor pretended to be Markus, I just thought shouldn't Simon know Markus knows where Jericho is? Why would you just give him the location when he should already know?🤔🤔 Also Connor sounded so adorable at 4:14 when he said he was ok. Protect him. 😢😢
Well I mean he's very badly damaged, probably doesn't have access to all his memories, and is shocked/scared. That's how I'd try to explain it, anyway.
The last thing he recalls is dying. It would make perfect sense for him to be confused, honestly.
Matt Mello *PROTECT MAH BOI*
Hm i thought the same when i was playing Detroit but not talking to Simon but different android or devients
Let's also remember how in this single video, there is a moment when Connor simply touches Simon and access its memories - and when he revives Simon, on this other route, he just can't simply touch it to probe its memories?
*I just love Simon. I feel like before people were making these videos about him he was really underrated. And I see more and more people who think that Simon and Marcus would make a better couple that Marcus and North, AND I AGREE 100%, but that's just my opinion.*
Moge You trying to catch these hands?? Who pooped in your cereal lil boy?
You are not alone there XD
Moge Are you sure about that
Homunculus TV Sameeee
that would be gay
I just love how everyone in the comment section wish for a romance path with simon
DONT WE ALL 😭😭
i'm just replying to get notifications of people saying otherwise. in that case i'll be ready to 💥💥💥
@@pomegranate10017 otherwise
I find it funny how a 10 second scene without words between Markus and Simon made me feel more than a whole conversation between Markus and North talking about their past. It just shows how the relationship between Markus and Simon manages to be more well written than the one between Markus and North, even though they're supposed to be a couple. I guess this is the reason it's bad, after all.
Being in a relationship with Simon would be way better than with North just saying
I know, North is so unlikable and isn't a good character in my opinion, she's just overly violent sometimes...
Overly violent and annoying in general.
He was originally going to be a second option, but the developer thought it would add too many options.
@@BooperBeanV3 lmao 2 is "so many options"
@@dogsteve I heard she likes to kill infants, and wouldn't think twice about killing a Child.
I wish there was ways to start relationships with other characters because north and Markus are a huge no no but Markus and Simon are the true romance
Romance?
Not really for Simon and Markus it's a bromance different from a romance
*DiNG dINg*
*SARKUS*
Almighty Gekido Simon is willing to die for Markus
gay
I don’t care about the different endings because THEY ARE ALL HEARTBREAKING
Ana He can survive if you suceed at all of the quick time events.
If you decide not to go to the roof and go straight to interrogating the androids instead as Connor after having Markus leave Simon, then Simon won’t be found and he’ll meet up with Jericho later and him and Markus will hug. And then if you do everything right as Markus, then no one has to sacrifice for him and everyone lives. Also you have to be on a pacifist run.
CreatureSoul446 doesn't that work on the hostile path too?
That was my issue with the game. Every decision felt like the wrong decision.
CreatureSoul446 but Connor...
"Our hearts are compatible"
Why wasn't Simon a romance option ffs 😭
No yucky yucky deranged alphabet people please! Go woke, go broke. What Mr. Trumpster said “everything woke goes broke.”
Rs
You'd think Simon would be all "Markus, why the HECK did you shoot me?! I thought we were friends!?"
But this game doesn't try to change dialogue depending on emotional outcomes of certain choices.
There was a reason to shoot Simon. I almost shot Simon myself until he was like "Yo, don't shoot me."
I think he understands that, which is why he's less angry than he would be if Markus just spontaneously turned around and shot him. Emotion clouds judgement and, in his time, he's just been shot. Maybe he thought that Markus never planned to let him die. Maybe he's just happy that he's not dead. Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws.
simon loves markus, and he understands why he had to do what he did (even though i dont think that route is the right choice)
I thought he would be mad too. XD
Rachel Rayburn Loves? What the fuck? They are just a friends.
Roxy Vincenzo don't you love your friends?
Honestly, I agree with the thought that Simon should've been a love interest as well.
I feel like North would've been the love interest for those who wanted to go with a violent route.
While Simon could've been the love interest for the people who wanted to take a passive route.
They really do be missing out on dat 😔
I do agree that Simon was cool but then again north who doesn’t want to be pacifist even when you do go passive she still goes on with you and turns Markus also she wants to kill the humans so much because of the things that happended to her when she was in her former work (sex robot like in the eden club)
@@wilsonsmith2903 Yeah Ik, I'm just agreeing that they had a nice inclusive opportunity. I'm not saying that North is a bad character (Leaving out the fact I don't like her all that much) She's actually a good person, and I 100% agree with her in some cases. If I were her I'd hate humans too lol
Snxwy thanks for taking my opnion into consideration most people just hate her for no reason because they think “Simon would have made a better partner”
@@wilsonsmith2903 Exactly! People need to realise that North is there for a reason, Not just to annoy you or force you into violence. I actually like her character, I just found her a tiny bit annoying at times. But I still love her lol
I went all passive and was still lovers with North lol. Just steal the truck and shoot the runaway and dont let her die and boom.
I love how you can just singlehanded kill the oldest and most respected member of Jericho and Jericho’s opinion of you does not change
Because it was understandable. A dead Simon can't (they think) be interrogated. They don't know about Connor's little necromancy trick but even if they did, killing the straggler would still make them safer.
Markus: *shoots Simon*
North: *companions*
I hate North.
I hate North /2
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Could they not have dragged to him to the edge and skydived with him in Markus’s arms?
Charaki What about the extra weight?
how much do they even weigh?
ghost in the machine Well, they are made out of plastic and metal, have organs made by the same materials and they also have a lot of blue blood in them. I'd say they weigh a lot.
ThePS4Gamer true but because you see humans hitting/punching androids without hurting themselves or androids hitting/punching humans without it being an instant TKO I always wonder how much they weigh compared to a human.
ghost in the machine Well, humans could weigh as much as possible and the punching thing would still apply to us.
6:46 Simon looked pretty cozy in Markus's arms there :P
spoiled moojuice Who wouldn't??
ThePS4Gamer lol ya
joao_zerodawn05 honestly lol
I mean I would too >.
...well, except that their feet and lower bodies are still a bit far apart. Men typically hug like that when we want manly-man hugs but _Heaven forbid that our _*_dicks_*_ should rub against each other._ :-/
(...and that's why fully homosexual hugs are the _best,_ kids! Frot away with wild abandon! :-D )
Wow that last one..... That one hit me in the feels
Oh for gods sake I freaking remember that sacrifice moment being in a dream years ago
A.P.G Gaming deja vu
Howard King yeah
A.P.G Gaming Really? How interesting...
A Quantic Dream? ;D (I’m sorry)
Become Human ;)))
8:43 isn't there a gay ship with markus and simon? cmon, look what simon says. "Our hearts are compatible.'. I ship it.
Edit: holy shit 200 likes?
Another edit: 300 LIKES!?
There's a ship to everything even a ship to shipping ships in this shit.
me too
Love, Simon
Zachary Wacky Gross
markimon sakrus minom simrus i think thats a kind of ship name i like markimon is a nice name for the ship
Kids killed Markus, Connor or Kara.
Men kept them alive.
Legends got the perfect ending.
Gods got Simon not killed.
toddler kill everyone
The part where Simon literally gave Markus his heart was so cute.
Simon is a true hero
I fricken LOVED Simon whyyyyyy
Jalen Masbad he is the nicest guy ever
I dont love nor like him
I mean, he CAN survive the game, at least.
Actualy hes not Daniel if you kill him on the first mision he will be there where the others deviants go
Shoot the guy who runs out of the broadcast room and Simon will be okay.
I did that on my first playthrough, and it shocked me like hell to find out that Simon could be left behind (and be found by Connor)
This is the first time I've seen Simon get shot, welp...WHAT ABOUT THE BROMANCE
He said he was scared how did he not know he was a deviant
trUE
De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt... :p
I mean, he was programmed to think Deviancy was a big no-no, of course he'd ignore being one for as long as possible...
The fact that Connor is conflicted by his possible deviancy is what's most fascinating about him. He doesn't want to be a deviant, he wants to obey as he should and just do as he's programmed. There are so many instances where he seems to feel emotions but then tries to explain them away like they didn't happen or don't matter. He doesn't want to be corrupted in that sense. It's fascinating.
Because one of the most human emotions is the ability to deny.
he was feeling whatever simon felt. it wasn't his own emotions
4:40 being the true moment Connor turned Deviant. Openly admitting he could actually feel emotions such as Fear, Whereas in the beginning he'd have just shrugged it off and called it an error in his or another Android's software.
I think conor is deviant the whole time but is in denial
Dont hit me with that"Our hearts are compatible " bulls hit before you die. What you trying to do? Break my heart even more? I already can't romance simon and now this?
Markus and north vs Markus and Simon ... who's relationship is better???my vote goes to Markus and Simon👍👍👍
Edit:Thank you so much for all those likes and replying to my question
Kaushal Chaudhary Personally, I believe that Markus and Simon have more chemistry than North and Markus. Too bad that Markus isn’t able to romance Simon like North, but hey, that’s just my opinion.
Markus and Simon are waaaaay better
Gays is better
Wtf?!...you Guys will be the reason of a new disease...an android disease......
Robotic aids......
AbdullahYTR // The Egyptian Heart lmao youre pathetic
LOOK AT THE WAY SIMON LOOKS AT MARKUS WHEN HE SACRIFICES HIMSELF DURING THE FREEDOM MARCH. THAT LOOK IN HIS EYES IS JUST SO. RELIEVED. AND SO SAD. AND IN PAIN. BUT HE'S HAPPY. HAPPY BECAUSE HIS DEATH MEANS MARKUS CAN LIVE ON.
david cage is a lazy coward for not making simon a possible love interest. he and markus have so much chemistry you can just s m e l l it.
And now there is proof that he is just homophobic
3:05
Simon: *Don’t leave me again Markus, Don’t leave!*
_[cuts to Markus leaving Simon]_
pacifist Markus and Simon made so much more sense as a couple than Markus did with North. Wish there was an option for either North or Simon based on the character you build Markus up to be
Why couldn't we have the option to give Simon a new functioning heart?
Because there were no spare biocomponents nearby
@The Dude would have died by then
"Our hearts are compatible."
Idk when he said that I started fangirling and crying at the same time. Poor cinnamon roll.
“Our hearts are compatible. You have to take mine.”
It sounds way better when Simon says it rather than North.
At the end of the first sacrifice that guy was the only human left so why didn’t they beat the shit out of him and save Simon. Edit: yes I know after checking that there were more out of frame.
simon: _can literally give his heart to markus_
the game: and they were companions 😊
"Our hearts are compatible" OMG
And I misread "we cant win without you" => "I cant live without you" lolololol
Same thing, right?
that our hearts are compatible reminds me a touchy moment at the end of terminator salvation,when from the looks of it john was about to die,when markus approach em and said something like "give him mine."
The way Simon looks at Markus is pretty much exactly like John when you take him and do sacrifice
1:34 *Simon gets shot in the head* - Simon Died Outcome - *SIMON HAS NO BULLET HOLES IN THE HEAD!!!*
Well, I think the game used the same outcome scene for both when Simon shot himself in the head, when the police shot him, and when Markus shot him.
Simon is my favourite character in Markus' storyline.
Oh... so that’s why people ship Markus and Simon...
y u p
Simon and Markus being together are much more compatible, whilst for North and Markus it felt forced and after the game would probably be some smooth sailing until a break up happens.
Lol that was me.
Sighhh *unzips*
"Our hearts are compatible". Heck yeah they are!
That's why Connor don't should go to the roof.
When you play as connor to investigate. just collect all evidence without go to roof, it will be sad when you simon died
@@mirinae6579 lmaaaao
Thanks was searching for this comment haven’t got that scen when Simon comes back to Jericho for probably any of my playthroughs.
i like how josh has says they’ll probe his memory then its dude we can’t kill! wtf man
I'd say that at that moment, Josh was going through a phase of 'I don't know what we should choose to do', because Simon was his friend and all. So a moment of emotional trama basically.
He's wishy washy. That's why he was annoying to me.
Season Springal understandable i’d say lol
I'm digging all this simon content!
The trauma in Connor’s voice at 4:13 really hit hard because he was trying to remain a machine to complete his mission but when he was traumatized and felt the “void of death” he became more human in a way. It just hit hard because of that moment.
I love how Hank treats Connor like it's child
You get a brief glimpse of Cole's face in one scene and Connor basically looks like what Cole might have grown up to be.
I feel bad for Deviants cause they just wanna be free
When Connor reactivates Simon and he says “Don’t leave me again Marcus” that hits hard
Can Simon please get a break?
Conner: *dies*
Hank: again! That’s the third time this week.
I love how in a game of choices, Simon has the option of whether or not to support you, and he always *chooses* to put you first.
8:59 Holy shit this is one of the most epic moments in the game
Markus kills everyone:
North: ↑↑↑
When hank ran to check on Connor after Simon shot himself and Connor going “I’m ok....” THAT TUGGED ON MY HEART STRINGS
So Simon fights 3 humans to save Markus
And also LITERALLY GIVES HIM HIS HEART.
I feel like North was actually a pretty good love interest but i would also like to see the Simon love path. A lot of factors would’ve played into developing it though, and there’s probably a lot of things that blocked it from happening. Oh well, I still like North despite what a lot of people say. She’s not bad tbh.
8:41 shit im crying
Znowy same
Same here...
Ne:crying. Dad: why u crying so dam loud read this if ur sad pls
Nice pfp
I like how you have to fail some of the easiest qte's to unlock a giant chunck of a story
So many possibilities. That last scene giving Markus his battery, and the Connor rooftop scenes were great. Masterpiece of a game!
When I didn't help Simon at the tower, since I didn't know him much and was trying to save my own skin of course, I didn't know he could have become such an important character. RIP Simon.
on my first playthrough I somehow managed to keep Simon alive, and only watching this I realize how lucky that was xd
This game is so well done, holy crap
The interactions, the decisions and everything else just makes it whole
This is one of those games where you could get lost and lose track of time
Da f, markus shot him in the head. in the evidence room his face is shot-free. How?
Simple... detail oversight.
Yea, the whole reason of shooting Simon was to make sure they couldn’t get evidence out of him. But even after getting shot in the head he still works apparently.
Maybe, just maybe that scene was after Simon shot himself. That shot was also through the head but not through the forehead.
GGaudentius s mistake confirmed
That is when he gets left and connor finds him
Simon looks a lot like Daniel
Vincent Valentine They're the same model i think
Vincent Valentine they are the same model y'know? Cause kamski wouldn't just make every android different, you see 2 josh models in the game, without counting josh, 4 north models on the eden club and daniel, which is the same model as simon, something funny is that the only characters you don't see more models of are markus, kara and connor, i think cuantic dream wanted us to think of them more as people than androids, and here is your answer, hope i helped
You actually do see other Kara models around the city and at Jericho. You also see another Connor model when you're trying to convert the androids at the CyberLife tower. I think the only one we don't see is Markus.
Haskypasky yeah because Marcus is a model that kamski made specially and exclusively for karl, so we never saw any other models like marcus throughout the game
Ohh yeah, i forgot 'bout that.
That guy is the best example of a real friend
I respect him
“Is that you Markus? DONT LEAVE ME AGAIN MARKUS, DONT LEAVE-“ i cried my eyes out.
I literally cried when i saw this 7:51 why because Simon is my favorite character and also it’s very nice of him to sacrifice his life to save Markus
All I wanted was Simon kissing Marcus ;-; I ship them so much 💕💕
Everytime Markus kills somebody
North: 🔼
Simon: “ *_our hearts are compatible_* “
me: *SCREAM FANGIRLING*
*”our hearts are compatible.... you have to take mine...”- simon*
The way Conner imitated Markus was so...so..savage. I felt so bad :(
they should’ve kissed in the reunion and “our hearts are compatible” scenes. peaceful + alive simon = reunion kiss. violent + alive simon = compatible hearts kiss.
“I was scared..”
Me very loudly: AHHHH NOOO MY BABY😫😫😫😭😭😭 MY BABY BOY 🤭😭😭
marcos paredes sir this was a year ago I- calm down
The last Simon death had me almost crying... Simon is always loyal to Markus.
1:34 When Markus shoots Simon
North: *_MMMM YEAH BABY ITS SO HOT WHEN YOU KILL PEOPLE_*
Connor : I was scared.
me: HANK DON'T YOU STAND THERE GIVE HIM A HUG!!
Logic:Simon Couldn't Move Beacuse He Got Shot.Then A Day Passes Simon Can Move xD Hahahaha
Jovan Carl they have spare parts in jerico, he couldve took them before seeing Markus
Or maybe he did survive by kill an android around and take his spareparts.
But how would he have gotten to Jericho to get those spare parts?
He probably looted another android to repair himself
Now i want a friend Simon so we can go on cool adventures
I love how that simon heart thing was super serious like bruh just pick up his body later theres like a thousand corpses with compatible parts
When Simon said "Don't leave me Markus! Don't leave!"
I felt sad
I didn't even know you could even have Simon be a sacrifice. The walkthrough I watched he escaped all fine with the parachutes
Sorry I write now after a whole year but how can u get Simon jumping with the parachutes? Is there a way to prevent him from getting shot?
@@rulerthelion860 Shoot the guy running out, he can't inform the police and the police are too late to shoot Simon
@@shinjipilled9187 Oh thanks, Ive never seen that