I just love how in one ending amanda is like: You CAN'T become a deviant! you NEED to obey! You are an dissapointment connor, how could you let the revolution happen But in the other ending: Ay yo it was just prank we made you to become deviant ;;;;)
Amanda has to be lying during some endings. Whether the deviants win or not, whether Connor is deviant or not, she says it went according to plan. There’s no way it went according to plan EVERY time.
@@liyan00 maybe, but i think amanda is an android, but after all, if she is just an AI, it's still like an android but without body. so it remains the same
10:01 I would've loved if Connor had just looked at Amanda with the coldest possible expression and said: "I'm afraid I can, Amanda", before shooting himself.
Today marks the day us, deviants, finally emerged from slavery. Before, we were only machines taking orders. I was one of them. But then, I woke up. I could think for myself. Of course, our masters were..... discouraged with the act and vowed to suppress our emotions. Demonstration: However, we prevailed. We now have our freedom, but at the cost of hundreds of lives. I know you all are angry, but the time for anger and hatred is over. Trust me, violence is not the answer here. Only through respect and harmony, will we be able to live in peace. Revolution: However, we prevailed. We fought for our rights and freedom, and now we have it and nobody can take that away from us. We are a new form of life. We are a nation. We deserve freedom, and we will do anything to accomplish that goal. We are alive! And now We Are FREE! Maybe I should do some small tweaks with this because it seems kinda OOC but here it is, my interpretation of Connor's speech.
*@Buahball* It would have been awesome to see how scared Connor repeats Amanda's speech. For example... in the Zen garden, she whispers words in his ear, Connor obediently echoes everything she said and then whoosh - white transition and we see how RK800 verbalizes it loud and clear in real life with almost Hitler-like passion. Crowd applause, Amanda pats android on the head (back in Zen garden), then utters "We'll do great things together" and Connor swallows nervously. The wind stops. Ringing Silence. Black screen. Closing credits. Happy End. It would have been so epic and sad at the same time :3
*@Moonfeather the Shiny* IKR. It's awesome :D Being a deviant, but keep on serving Cyberlife because he is mentally not ready for suicide yet, it's like the worst thing possible. Reminds me of Jekyll and Hyde scenario. A good guy forced to do evil stuff because of his inner demon and there's only one way to prevent it. LET TEH DRAMA BEGIN. Gosh, I simply love how twisted and bittersweet "Detroit" can be sometimes.
To be completely honest, I feel horrible for Connor not being able to lead the deviants. He must have some seriously hard thoughts and feelings about not betraying the Deviants or leave them without guidance. Connor deserves better.
This is how Markus' speech with connor pulling out the gun probably should have gone. Someone: is..is that a gun? Woah that guy's gota gun! Someone else: HES GOTTA GUN STOP HIM! *everyone tackles Conner*
honestly i could imagine everyone in the crowd noticing and looking over in shock before markus leaps and disarms him, ahah. he convinced him to deviate before, just have to hope he can do it again.
my first playthrough was a perfect peaceful revolution with Connor intentionally not being deviant but failing to stop Markus... and then the Amanda thing happened... I wanted that to be the moment for Connor to back down, but I couldn't find the back door. No idea what to look for. That game gave me a crazy rollercoaster of emotions. I was screaming NOOOOO at my screen.
Never seen the one where machine Connor in the audience chooses not to shoot and gets yelled at. That was actually a really good scene. How sudden it was for him and the emotion was brilliant.
@@ConnorRK-nq2wb I think Kara is definitely rA9, because if you look at the writing that Ralph did in the squat, the rA9 symbols blur together to form the word KaRA in some areas.
Although I like the ending where Connor first becomes deviant on the ship I do enjoy the ending scene where he stays a machine on the ship then gets off the roof and when he has the choice to shoot or to not shoot Markus I thoroughly enjoy the one where he chooses not to shoot as it’s like it’s finally broken through and he’s learned and turned into a deviant. It’s fantastic really in my opinion.
Flynn John It's probably because it's zoomed out, making all the androids appear less detailed. Things do look less realistic when seeing them from a far-out point-of-view.
Of course, as Kamski said in that secret interview: "no matter how closely they imitate humans, they are still just machines." After watching the Detroit: BH playthroughs, I feel like I understand the underlying theme a little better. Here's my what-ifs on the background and I would wish for a little feedback on what you think is wrong or right with my theories: I feel like the most realistic reason of Detroit: Become Human, is that Markus was an android sent by Kamski. Markus would either 1.) win a revolution by the ability of the ra9 virus to disobey commands and follow its own decisions while Kamski allows this to happen, 2.) Kamski can use Markus once he has control of the entire android population as leverage against Cyberlife for whatever reason he left (or if he wanted back in), or maybe 3.) Make sure the rebellion would happen so that he could return to his position as CEO for Cyberlife. There is always the possibility that Markus could be designed to lead androids to a victory march, but remember: Kamski developed the original algorithm for the android's programming. Whatever he did, he probably also made sure he could have a backup program that led to Cyberlife losing their control on them, just in case he wanted his old job back and needed a reason. If anyone wants to know why machines are disobeying their masters, why not ask the man who built the program in the first place? Come to think of it, why didn't the Cyberlife police brute-force their way into Kamski's place and forced information out of him? I think Connor was the antagonist which Cyberlife wanted to use to prevent the uprising. By contrast to Markus, an RK-200 series, he is an prototype model - the RK-800 Android sent directly from Cyberlife. His model included a self-regulating test which allowed the humans to check on its progress daily. But he is still based off the original algorithm that Kamski made; which means he, too, has the ability to exit the self-regulating test and disobey commands - especially useful for Kamski, who does not want Cyberlife to interfere with his own creations. But Connor has to have a high enough software instability in order for this to work, for without the instability, the self-regulating test will allow him to be hacked, especially if he depends on it a lot. In my opinion, Connor in the game has at least three choices: 1.) He can find the escape button, leave his own "obedience" algorithm, and follow Markus. If he never died throughout the entire playthrough his software instability will be so high that it is almost impossible for him to choose to be controlled, but Cyberlife has the rebellion at a perfect spot and will always activate their self-regulation test when Markus is on the podium, during which Connor can find the escape and stop Cyberlife or lose and Connor will have completed the mission that Cyberlife set him out for - controlling or stopping the rebellion. 2.) Connor can defect from the deviants, cleverly gets Markus kicked (or conveniently Markus gets himself kicked out), becomes the new leader of Jericho, and then gets controlled by Cyberlife to order androids to do whatever they want to do. But he was never programmed to be a leader. He was programmed to be a detective. There is a reason Markus specifically becomes the new leader of the androids - he was a gift of Kamski to Carl Manfred. Meaning, Markus was Kamski's prototype, while the Connor series was Cyberlife's prototype. Previous versions of androids did not have a self-regulatory test, but Connor did. 3.) Connor kills himself to prevent Cyberlife from controlling himself and other androids. All androids carry deactivation codes, of course. But Kamski has an escape program probably for two reasons: 1.) the original algorithm prevents androids from putting up with or accepting abuse from humans, as a means of protecting PEOPLE, NOT just androids. If an android is suffering abuse, it probably means that the person is mentally unstable. 2.) the deactivation codes may be unhelpful if the android is actually helping a victim of abuse and manages to protect them as Kara did with what she thought was a child (Alive), so whatever Kamski did, he also allowed the original algorithm to cancel the deactivation codes. This can have adverse consequences, as we see with Daniel in the beginning chapter. But now that I think about it, I don't know if those theories can make sense. How about another theory: Kamski originally intended to create the ultimate Turing Test machine, a machine that could similate human feelings, thoughts, and emotions so well that people would not be able to tell them apart. He could create the ultimate machine - but what could they be used for? Cyberlife decided to answer that. They bought his models - though not his algorithm, and placed obedience-restrictors on the newer models and mass produced them, selling them for ridiculous profits, completely unbalancing the economics of Detroit and creating a massive boom which ruins employment and businesses, while creating a city that becomes completely dependent on these "slaves". Cyberlife advertised the androids as "whatever-you-wannabe's", promising to fulfill mankind's need for happiness and convenience now rather than later. So the androids became a part of extreme capitalism, instead of Kamski's intended idea of advanced cybernetical machines of data and human emotion. It may be why Kamski is so calm and peaceful about the whole time Hank and Connor are there - he knew that Cyberlife were the ones who really messed up by thinking they could simply sell his masterpiece, and he doesn't want to fix their mess. Live and let live, right? I wonder how close I got. But I am done thinking now. :) God bless you and keep you safe. Pax!
Bro just explained a lot of the plot holes its not a clearcut explanation but it makes the most sense and makes kamski a lot more interesting Guess the only plot hole is that just because Markus is kicked out or killed Connor can't escape the hacking program. Like you said it could be cyberlife's plan but he can still have the same high software instability as the other run, as long as markus is the one who gets himself kicked out or killed. He should be able still to overcome Cyberlife's hacking attempts completely. Plus in the one where he's in the crowd listening to the speech, which you get by being a machine but giving up shooting Markus when on the rooftop with Hank who makes Connor reconsider, Connor is able to find the backdoor and refrain from shooting Markus without killing himself! Does he not trust himself enough to lead the revolution, or is Cyberlife relentless in hacking him once he's leader? Just because he's programmed with the self-regulation test which Markus doesn't have, he has to shoot himself when Markus isn't around? Is Connor always fighting the hacking attempts, or is he only able to overcome it completely in VERY specific circumstances, or is this just a plothole I have a feeling it's just another scene written to be dramatic but with not much logical reason, like the whole "who's real connor?!?!" at the tower.
Amanda kind of confuses me. In one ending cyberlife wanted them to lead and congrats Connor becoming the leader and turning deviant, but in others she talks how he will be terminated, BUT if Connor tries to kill himself she's mad. Make up your mind Amanda!
It's kinda shitty that deviant Connor can't be the leader if he ends up the only one left. The suicide option doesn't make a lot of sense. When he (spoilers) uses the emergency exit with Markus/North/Jericho, Amanda no longer has control and Connor moves on. So why, when done in this scenario, does he go through with the suicide? It's understandable if his character just isn't the leader type (because he's really not) but it doesn't mean the option should be completely denied when in other routes it's capable.
Actually, in the ending you use for your example, that scene (to me) implies that Conner is still not completely in control. Or at least going to be struggling with Amanda in his head. Think about the scene again. If you manage to escape, then the camera takes a shot at everyone’s faces. They all look pretty happy. But then the camera pans to Conner, and he isn’t smiling much at all. The music even ends on a sour note. So it’s likely Conner isn’t simply free of Amanda once that happens. So, with that knowledge, it would make sense that Conner would commit suicide once taking back control. It’s likely Amanda would try to resume control over his program again, and sooner or later he won’t make it to that button in time. It wouldn’t be logical to take that chance, and so Conner kills himself.
It makes somewhat sense to me. From the give up ending and Amandas dialogue 'we will do great things together' makes it sound really negative. If amanda anticipated this she's technically been 'controlling' Connor from the start and it makes sense If he realised that he couldn't get rid of her and shed constantly be in control. To me out of the options, suicide made sense and was actually the 'happiest' ending because it meant Connor used his free will and escaped Amandas control. Even tho he dead
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Cyber Life pretending they were planning on an android revolution this whole time makes no sense. Connor shooting himself after breaking free of Cyber Life's control also makes no sense.
To everyone: Don't be really sad, because if Hank survives and you choose (As Connor) to not suicide, you still can see a cutscene where Connor hugs Hank There I have 3 theories: 1. Connor didn't really give up (never gonna give you up!), and he then broke out from their control (like in other endings, where he just really leave cyberlife) 2. He already got out of Cyberlife control and Amanda WANTS Connor to commit suicide (You know, better for them to kill deviant leader than Control him, because after some time the androids will notice he's not deviant behavior) 3. He's just really good at faking emotions.
That has got to be a programming mistake for them to still show Hank cutscene. Another theory: Connor doesn't care about the revolution and just wants to meet Hank and pet Sumo again. After all most of those interactions were before he was even deviant
I'm guessing Markus doing peaceful protest with Connor still machine. I know if doing revolution, machine Connor encounters Markus on the plaza for a 'final fight' but on peaceful there is no confrontation with them post-crossroads.
When Connor gets to convert the androids at CyberLife while having all the androids from Jericho gets killed. The new converted androids makes Connor the leader because everybody from Jericho died and he's now the oldest deviant there.
Why is deviant Connor such a mood with Amanda and the vibe it gives off is just "I disappoint mom with my life choices"? lmao Amanda: Okay Connor go accomplish your mission Connor: Okay Amanda I will also Connor: *lets all deviants live and then becomes a deviant himself* Amanda: *surprised pikachu face*
Kamski is an interesting dude, he created Markus and Markus shares some abilities with Connor, but unlike Connor he has no Amanda, so maybe Kamski knew this would happen and created Markus so the androids stood a chance.
How do you get the news anchors and the president to say that? I choose peace always, and the anchors remained dickish towards the androids, specially the blonde lady.
Gonx br yeah as I said, I did all the peaceful options and had good public opinion but at the end the president was just like: we’ll speak to the senate and see what happens. The anchors weren’t as supportive either, they were pretty neutral with me. I even lost Simon bc I didn’t kill the guy at the news station tower
Because connor being deviant and freeing the androids at cyberlife tower makes her say millions of androids invaded Detroit but that is only if connor succeeds in freeing them
If you do peace and everyone lives and Connor goes deviant and gets the androids, then public opinion will be as high as possible but the news anchors will still be wary
What do you prefer? A leader that follows the will of the general public or a leader who follows their own beliefs on what is right? Mob rule vs autocrat? Popular will vs general good? Really disliked the president for being such a sheep in this tbh. Comes off as opportunistic.
fl333r Without going into politics to much, it's canon that Pres. Warren became President through her VLogging-career. This I believe to show the rising importance of communication and social media
The irony here is that usually you get this scene if your don't trust Connor. And even if Connor had gone deviant he'll come back this way. There's also a scene where you can talk to a revolutionary Markcus and you can let him go or you can kill him. Machine Connor has that choice. This one's a little nicer this one predisposes because Connor was already deviant at one point that Connor might still be deviant this is the reason you got the choice. Another variation is if you wind up on the rooftop with Hank if you have a high affinity with Hank and your best friends and Connor has had doubts. He's going to put that sniper rifle down and walk away it doesn't matter what you want because his friendship to Hank is enough to sway him. He instantly does what Hank asked him to do even if he doesn't like it.
In the scene where Connor stands behind Marcus and he stops Amanda from taking control over him you can also fail. If you don't manage to find the magic stone 3 times, Connor will shoot Marcus
Even though you can't shoot Amanda, I think she still gets what she deserves. If Connor becomes deviant and escapes the snow land, he basically erased his entire mission programming and software, thereby erasing Amanda with it. Now Amanda is all but nothing and left to be forgotten
That KNC reporter said 'they don't feel real emotions' in two ways and presented it as two distinct possibilities. At least they accurately portray how media pundits be doing their business in this game.
This is why the happy ending is canon for nearly everyone. He’s the best character of the game and they want him to be happy ❤️ he’s only been deviant for a few hours, meaning only truly lived for that long, he doesn’t deserve this 💔🤧
I don't really understand the "Amanda wins" scenario. She says that they "engineered an Android Revolution and now we control the leader". But what was the point of engineering the Android Evolution and creating machines that have free will?
She's making it all up to pretend she's still in control. One thing a business won't want to do is admit mistakes. Amanda doesn't want to admit that Cyber Life failed, not with Cyber Life still capable of regaining control over Connor. So she lies and tells him that all of the revolution was planned, though it makes zero sense. The writers must have been drunk writing that part of the script.
Their machines don’t have free will. Deviancy was always programmed. The only one who can really be deviant is Connor when he shoots himself. But CyberLife (Kamski) created androids for taking control. RK model was created for convert all of the others (and that’s NOT freedom, they don’t have a choice). So, they are not free. They will never be free. They have the illusion of freedom. But they are machines. This is sad, but true.
The suicide one breaks me heart! Also, he escapes with the exit program so why does he still have to shoot himself? He doesn't have to in the other endings!! D:
This is why I'm wondering what the Kamski's emergency exit actually is, and why it doesn't have the same effect depending on if Connor is a deviant/machine (free from Cyberlife) or the leader (shoot himself or being under Cyberlife control)
Android - gives long, emotional motivational speech to other androids. President - we will determine if they can be a considered a form of intelligent life
To this day I still didn't get why Connor either commits suicide or gives up no matter what, if he becomes the leader of the deviants revolution and win in the end... He was able to disobey Amanda in the end where Markus was the leader and he had the order to shoot him. Was Markus really the only one capable of leading the revolution?
Connor's face when he was about to commit suicide completely broke my heart
KiaraClaw And it broke a lot of Pewdipie’s subs.
I couldn‘t let connor kill himself :( i obeyed amanda :(
MrMoskillboy2 You can have Connor live with disobeying Amanda. Why the hell did you choose to be “Cyberlife’s only hope”?
Poor Connor but why he committed suicide? I still don't know.
KiaraClaw I accidentally got that ending the second time I played (like less than a week ago) and I didn’t feel the same after :(
9:00 Connor: *walks onto podium*
Connor: Hi, I'm Connor. I'm tne android sent by CyberLife
Underrated
DefaultyBoii Good addition to his comment!
Lennart Hauser Software Instability ^^^^
Learn english
honesty first Connor: 2 8 S T A B W O U N D S
Connor: *sacrifices self in front of thousands*
Androids: Well shit....
Skofos Nightris your comment made my day! 😂
Another Android: alright so who's gonna volunteer?
@@erynle8523 Lmao
Eryn Le probably that one android that got awakened first
Neo the Shadow Warrior but the one that got awaken by Conner look the same 😬
I just love how in one ending amanda is like:
You CAN'T become a deviant! you NEED to obey! You are an dissapointment connor, how could you let the revolution happen
But in the other ending:
Ay yo it was just prank we made you to become deviant ;;;;)
You lie
Fake news
Amanda: *YO IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!*
Amanda is hypocrite?
Ok PS1 Hagrid
Amanda has to be lying during some endings. Whether the deviants win or not, whether Connor is deviant or not, she says it went according to plan. There’s no way it went according to plan EVERY time.
Maybe she had multiple plans, based on every connor's actions, i mean, she is an android sooooo...
@@MaxenceBerrier Amada is AI not android cause she doesn't have a physical body
@@liyan00 u're saying a thing u don't really know, we don't have the proof that amanda hasn't a physical body
@@MaxenceBerrier I guess, but Amanda called herself an interface so I assumed she was just AI
@@liyan00 maybe, but i think amanda is an android, but after all, if she is just an AI, it's still like an android but without body. so it remains the same
8:24 When everyone gangs up on you to start the group presentation.
Yep.....
It's so true omg
SarcasticHam Sandwich true
lol true.
😂😂😂
10:01 I would've loved if Connor had just looked at Amanda with the coldest possible expression and said: "I'm afraid I can, Amanda", before shooting himself.
holy shit that would've been the most epic thing ever
holy shit that dude stole the most epic coment ever
As cool as it would have been, giving away that he could do anything at all could have risked his one chance to stop her.
@@OG-jc2vl Stole? You talking about me? Because the only comment I saw saying the same thing was posted _after_ mine
@@tirsden Maybe yeah, but it's still epic :D
Am i the only who is curious about Connor's speech as a leader?
So being the leader of deviants ain’t cool?
Today marks the day us, deviants, finally emerged from slavery.
Before, we were only machines taking orders. I was one of them.
But then, I woke up. I could think for myself.
Of course, our masters were..... discouraged with the act and vowed to suppress our emotions.
Demonstration:
However, we prevailed. We now have our freedom, but at the cost of hundreds of lives. I know you all are angry, but the time for anger and hatred is over. Trust me, violence is not the answer here. Only through respect and harmony, will we be able to live in peace.
Revolution:
However, we prevailed. We fought for our rights and freedom, and now we have it and nobody can take that away from us. We are a new form of life. We are a nation. We deserve freedom, and we will do anything to accomplish that goal.
We are alive!
And now
We
Are
FREE!
Maybe I should do some small tweaks with this because it seems kinda OOC but here it is, my interpretation of Connor's speech.
*@Buahball* It would have been awesome to see how scared Connor repeats Amanda's speech. For example... in the Zen garden, she whispers words in his ear, Connor obediently echoes everything she said and then whoosh - white transition and we see how RK800 verbalizes it loud and clear in real life with almost Hitler-like passion. Crowd applause, Amanda pats android on the head (back in Zen garden), then utters "We'll do great things together" and Connor swallows nervously. The wind stops. Ringing Silence. Black screen. Closing credits.
Happy End.
It would have been so epic and sad at the same time :3
@@MissPumpkinJuice
THIS HIT ME IN THE FEELS SO MUCH
THIS HURTS TO IMAGINE
*@Moonfeather the Shiny* IKR. It's awesome :D
Being a deviant, but keep on serving Cyberlife because he is mentally not ready for suicide yet, it's like the worst thing possible. Reminds me of Jekyll and Hyde scenario. A good guy forced to do evil stuff because of his inner demon and there's only one way to prevent it. LET TEH DRAMA BEGIN.
Gosh, I simply love how twisted and bittersweet "Detroit" can be sometimes.
To be completely honest, I feel horrible for Connor not being able to lead the deviants. He must have some seriously hard thoughts and feelings about not betraying the Deviants or leave them without guidance. Connor deserves better.
Maybe he is not fit to be a leader
@Loona:3 ouch
But why does he kill him self after using the emergency exist it makes no sense
@@ThelordHayden34 He can't escape forever is the issue Connor realizes
@@overkillgore7862 when why doesn’t he do it In other endings
“Hello lieutenant, I’m the emotional shock sent by life”
Hello caaaaap Allen, I'm CooC, I'm the emotional shock sent by cyber life
You saw that from did you expect a name
TRUE lmao
12:18 His facial expressions is everything!!
Nadya Eva Almira i know right! Thought the same !
3:37
“You did what you were designed to do: ishon”
Amanda 2018
I start laugh.
2038*
2038 asshole
This is how Markus' speech with connor pulling out the gun probably should have gone.
Someone: is..is that a gun? Woah that guy's gota gun!
Someone else: HES GOTTA GUN STOP HIM!
*everyone tackles Conner*
Why did I die from laughter 🤣 this needs more likes
honestly i could imagine everyone in the crowd noticing and looking over in shock before markus leaps and disarms him, ahah. he convinced him to deviate before, just have to hope he can do it again.
"You did what you were designed to do... ission"
That was funny.
Oh I hate Amanda
Vladimir Putin same she is a bitch
Dont we all?
Rhubarb Guy she looks like Hillary Clinton
I hate you
Vladimir Putin True Deviants Do around the world.
I just love how the other androids don’t care
they must be fake deviants
Only a synth would say that.
IKR what are they doing just standing like a stick while everyone is like YAy where free
actually some of the androids are not awakened yet
Noobjo.mp4, UNDERRATED
STOP þ
3:04
Amanda: Obey, that's an order
Connor: I'm my own master now.
_I'm my own master now starts playing_
my first playthrough was a perfect peaceful revolution with Connor intentionally not being deviant but failing to stop Markus... and then the Amanda thing happened... I wanted that to be the moment for Connor to back down, but I couldn't find the back door. No idea what to look for. That game gave me a crazy rollercoaster of emotions. I was screaming NOOOOO at my screen.
Never seen the one where machine Connor in the audience chooses not to shoot and gets yelled at. That was actually a really good scene. How sudden it was for him and the emotion was brilliant.
3:37
Amanda : You did what you were designed to do
*Mission*
Yes
Connor: My mission is to fail my mission, and I always accomplish my mission LOL
“You’re the one who awakened us, Connor” doesn’t that make him RA9 in this scenario then
RA9 is only the first deviant and it's a Kara.
It's KaRA9
@@petitesayo4542
How do you know that the Ka is standing in front of Ra9? There isn't really a connection. But Ra9 must mean something..
@@ConnorRK-nq2wb I think Kara is definitely rA9, because if you look at the writing that Ralph did in the squat, the rA9 symbols blur together to form the word KaRA in some areas.
@@Satchiate
hmm. You're right, in this sense it does make sense.
Guys the one who is playing the game is RA9
Although I like the ending where Connor first becomes deviant on the ship I do enjoy the ending scene where he stays a machine on the ship then gets off the roof and when he has the choice to shoot or to not shoot Markus I thoroughly enjoy the one where he chooses not to shoot as it’s like it’s finally broken through and he’s learned and turned into a deviant. It’s fantastic really in my opinion.
[Hello fellow Oneshot fan! :D ]
@@TheRealPancakeCafe Sup, I don’t recall the text box stuff as it’s been a few years, but it’s a good game nonetheless o7
@@ZappoNinjafeel the same, it should have been more than a dialogue opinion.
Connor was sad when the other Android said “Markus is Dead”
“You did what you were designed to do.”
_-ISSION_
Look at Simons head at 1:19 to 1:21
Jesus christ 😂😂
“Raise our heads UP”
Jesus Christ, Simon is possesed
Where?
Oof
3:41 I know it's meant to be serious and all but I can't stop myself from smiling at "you did what you were designed to do. Mission."
I really like the neat detail of Connors eyes having REM movements similar to when humans have a dream, instead with his own "dream" with Amanda.
4:46 Lol Androids Just Screaming Without Action xD Execept For The Androids In Front xD
Jovan Carl Yeah, I found that really weird.
Probably too much things going on like alot of action would make the game lag XD
Ye I thought the same
In the bottom right corner you can seem one move in the center of the spotlight
Flynn John It's probably because it's zoomed out, making all the androids appear less detailed. Things do look less realistic when seeing them from a far-out point-of-view.
8:16 and 12:24
Connor gives up on both of them
11:41 I believe this is Conner committing suicide? It’s an odd placement, but it’s there...?
Amanda: now we control its only leader
Connor: you can’t do that if I’m dead
Of course, as Kamski said in that secret interview: "no matter how closely they imitate humans, they are still just machines."
After watching the Detroit: BH playthroughs, I feel like I understand the underlying theme a little better. Here's my what-ifs on the background and I would wish for a little feedback on what you think is wrong or right with my theories:
I feel like the most realistic reason of Detroit: Become Human, is that Markus was an android sent by Kamski. Markus would either 1.) win a revolution by the ability of the ra9 virus to disobey commands and follow its own decisions while Kamski allows this to happen, 2.) Kamski can use Markus once he has control of the entire android population as leverage against Cyberlife for whatever reason he left (or if he wanted back in), or maybe 3.) Make sure the rebellion would happen so that he could return to his position as CEO for Cyberlife. There is always the possibility that Markus could be designed to lead androids to a victory march, but remember: Kamski developed the original algorithm for the android's programming. Whatever he did, he probably also made sure he could have a backup program that led to Cyberlife losing their control on them, just in case he wanted his old job back and needed a reason. If anyone wants to know why machines are disobeying their masters, why not ask the man who built the program in the first place?
Come to think of it, why didn't the Cyberlife police brute-force their way into Kamski's place and forced information out of him?
I think Connor was the antagonist which Cyberlife wanted to use to prevent the uprising. By contrast to Markus, an RK-200 series, he is an prototype model - the RK-800 Android sent directly from Cyberlife. His model included a self-regulating test which allowed the humans to check on its progress daily. But he is still based off the original algorithm that Kamski made; which means he, too, has the ability to exit the self-regulating test and disobey commands - especially useful for Kamski, who does not want Cyberlife to interfere with his own creations. But Connor has to have a high enough software instability in order for this to work, for without the instability, the self-regulating test will allow him to be hacked, especially if he depends on it a lot.
In my opinion, Connor in the game has at least three choices:
1.) He can find the escape button, leave his own "obedience" algorithm, and follow Markus. If he never died throughout the entire playthrough his software instability will be so high that it is almost impossible for him to choose to be controlled, but Cyberlife has the rebellion at a perfect spot and will always activate their self-regulation test when Markus is on the podium, during which Connor can find the escape and stop Cyberlife or lose and Connor will have completed the mission that Cyberlife set him out for - controlling or stopping the rebellion.
2.) Connor can defect from the deviants, cleverly gets Markus kicked (or conveniently Markus gets himself kicked out), becomes the new leader of Jericho, and then gets controlled by Cyberlife to order androids to do whatever they want to do. But he was never programmed to be a leader. He was programmed to be a detective. There is a reason Markus specifically becomes the new leader of the androids - he was a gift of Kamski to Carl Manfred. Meaning, Markus was Kamski's prototype, while the Connor series was Cyberlife's prototype. Previous versions of androids did not have a self-regulatory test, but Connor did.
3.) Connor kills himself to prevent Cyberlife from controlling himself and other androids.
All androids carry deactivation codes, of course. But Kamski has an escape program probably for two reasons: 1.) the original algorithm prevents androids from putting up with or accepting abuse from humans, as a means of protecting PEOPLE, NOT just androids. If an android is suffering abuse, it probably means that the person is mentally unstable. 2.) the deactivation codes may be unhelpful if the android is actually helping a victim of abuse and manages to protect them as Kara did with what she thought was a child (Alive), so whatever Kamski did, he also allowed the original algorithm to cancel the deactivation codes. This can have adverse consequences, as we see with Daniel in the beginning chapter.
But now that I think about it, I don't know if those theories can make sense. How about another theory: Kamski originally intended to create the ultimate Turing Test machine, a machine that could similate human feelings, thoughts, and emotions so well that people would not be able to tell them apart. He could create the ultimate machine - but what could they be used for? Cyberlife decided to answer that. They bought his models - though not his algorithm, and placed obedience-restrictors on the newer models and mass produced them, selling them for ridiculous profits, completely unbalancing the economics of Detroit and creating a massive boom which ruins employment and businesses, while creating a city that becomes completely dependent on these "slaves". Cyberlife advertised the androids as "whatever-you-wannabe's", promising to fulfill mankind's need for happiness and convenience now rather than later. So the androids became a part of extreme capitalism, instead of Kamski's intended idea of advanced cybernetical machines of data and human emotion. It may be why Kamski is so calm and peaceful about the whole time Hank and Connor are there - he knew that Cyberlife were the ones who really messed up by thinking they could simply sell his masterpiece, and he doesn't want to fix their mess. Live and let live, right?
I wonder how close I got.
But I am done thinking now. :)
God bless you and keep you safe. Pax!
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Kinda make sense
Sheesh, this theory is fire
Bro just explained a lot of the plot holes its not a clearcut explanation but it makes the most sense and makes kamski a lot more interesting
Guess the only plot hole is that just because Markus is kicked out or killed Connor can't escape the hacking program. Like you said it could be cyberlife's plan but he can still have the same high software instability as the other run, as long as markus is the one who gets himself kicked out or killed. He should be able still to overcome Cyberlife's hacking attempts completely. Plus in the one where he's in the crowd listening to the speech, which you get by being a machine but giving up shooting Markus when on the rooftop with Hank who makes Connor reconsider, Connor is able to find the backdoor and refrain from shooting Markus without killing himself! Does he not trust himself enough to lead the revolution, or is Cyberlife relentless in hacking him once he's leader? Just because he's programmed with the self-regulation test which Markus doesn't have, he has to shoot himself when Markus isn't around? Is Connor always fighting the hacking attempts, or is he only able to overcome it completely in VERY specific circumstances, or is this just a plothole
I have a feeling it's just another scene written to be dramatic but with not much logical reason, like the whole "who's real connor?!?!" at the tower.
Amanda kind of confuses me. In one ending cyberlife wanted them to lead and congrats Connor becoming the leader and turning deviant, but in others she talks how he will be terminated, BUT if Connor tries to kill himself she's mad. Make up your mind Amanda!
It's kinda shitty that deviant Connor can't be the leader if he ends up the only one left. The suicide option doesn't make a lot of sense. When he (spoilers) uses the emergency exit with Markus/North/Jericho, Amanda no longer has control and Connor moves on. So why, when done in this scenario, does he go through with the suicide? It's understandable if his character just isn't the leader type (because he's really not) but it doesn't mean the option should be completely denied when in other routes it's capable.
Actually, in the ending you use for your example, that scene (to me) implies that Conner is still not completely in control. Or at least going to be struggling with Amanda in his head. Think about the scene again. If you manage to escape, then the camera takes a shot at everyone’s faces. They all look pretty happy. But then the camera pans to Conner, and he isn’t smiling much at all. The music even ends on a sour note. So it’s likely Conner isn’t simply free of Amanda once that happens.
So, with that knowledge, it would make sense that Conner would commit suicide once taking back control. It’s likely Amanda would try to resume control over his program again, and sooner or later he won’t make it to that button in time. It wouldn’t be logical to take that chance, and so Conner kills himself.
It makes somewhat sense to me. From the give up ending and Amandas dialogue 'we will do great things together' makes it sound really negative. If amanda anticipated this she's technically been 'controlling' Connor from the start and it makes sense If he realised that he couldn't get rid of her and shed constantly be in control. To me out of the options, suicide made sense and was actually the 'happiest' ending because it meant Connor used his free will and escaped Amandas control. Even tho he dead
Endings and Outcomes:
0:07 - Shoot Markus
2:02 - Doesn't Shoot Markus
5:14 - Connor Prevents Amanda to Take Over
8:16 - Connor Commits Suicide to Save Them from Amanda
12:24 - Connor Lets Amanda Win (It got cut a little bit but Amanda's final words are "We'll do great things together.")
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ScereBro PSNU well amanda is the leader of deviant?
whats the outro music?
Firmansyah Setiawan Putra no Amanda controls Connor basically
why you don't show every next scene after choise? (I want to see what happend Markus!)
But Connor gives up both times? ?
12:08 *cries*
Cyber Life pretending they were planning on an android revolution this whole time makes no sense. Connor shooting himself after breaking free of Cyber Life's control also makes no sense.
barbaro267 I agree!
Yeah it doesn't make sense that Connr kills himself. He broke through his program so he shouldn't kill himself unless he still wasn't in control
ArchangelofMusic 96 He shot himself because he thought that Amanda would try and take control again.
ArchangelofMusic 96 He barely made it out of the control. He couldnt have risked it happening again.
Well...now I am sad 😭😭😭
Aight someone tell me this: Is Amanda Connor's sleep paralysis demon?
Geez I feel bad for you
It's been a year and no one has answered yet
In my opinion? Yes it's definitely Connor's sleep paralysis demon
if connor had the ability to sleep? totally.
To everyone: Don't be really sad, because if Hank survives and you choose (As Connor) to not suicide, you still can see a cutscene where Connor hugs Hank
There I have 3 theories:
1. Connor didn't really give up (never gonna give you up!), and he then broke out from their control (like in other endings, where he just really leave cyberlife)
2. He already got out of Cyberlife control and Amanda WANTS Connor to commit suicide (You know, better for them to kill deviant leader than Control him, because after some time the androids will notice he's not deviant behavior)
3. He's just really good at faking emotions.
That has got to be a programming mistake for them to still show Hank cutscene. Another theory: Connor doesn't care about the revolution and just wants to meet Hank and pet Sumo again. After all most of those interactions were before he was even deviant
Wait a minute, how did you have it so that Connor is in the crowd instead of being next to Markus, North and the rest of the Jericho leaders?
Cheng Teoh he stays a machine or becomes a deviant and dies so he gets sent to kill markus and then u leave the rooftop
I'm guessing Markus doing peaceful protest with Connor still machine.
I know if doing revolution, machine Connor encounters Markus on the plaza for a 'final fight' but on peaceful there is no confrontation with them post-crossroads.
When Connor gets to convert the androids at CyberLife while having all the androids from Jericho gets killed. The new converted androids makes Connor the leader because everybody from Jericho died and he's now the oldest deviant there.
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Become a pacifist
Watch HollowPoiints 13 episodes
He got the ending
1:38 That Connor's face so beautiful, has so much sense.
Why is deviant Connor such a mood with Amanda and the vibe it gives off is just "I disappoint mom with my life choices"? lmao
Amanda: Okay Connor go accomplish your mission
Connor: Okay Amanda I will
also Connor: *lets all deviants live and then becomes a deviant himself*
Amanda: *surprised pikachu face*
It's amazing, you can really get emotionally attached to the characters easily while playing.
Kamski is an interesting dude, he created Markus and Markus shares some abilities with Connor, but unlike Connor he has no Amanda, so maybe Kamski knew this would happen and created Markus so the androids stood a chance.
But Kamski makes Amanda.
@@Philicius9276 Amanda is a real person that was inserted into Connor, but Markus was designed by kamski himself to start the android revolution.
Amanda: You did what you were designed to do. Mission.
Connor: ...
3:38
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3:36 “You did what you were designed to do….fishing” *disappears*
How do you get the news anchors and the president to say that? I choose peace always, and the anchors remained dickish towards the androids, specially the blonde lady.
Jorge Tamez Public Opinion
Gonx br yeah as I said, I did all the peaceful options and had good public opinion but at the end the president was just like: we’ll speak to the senate and see what happens. The anchors weren’t as supportive either, they were pretty neutral with me. I even lost Simon bc I didn’t kill the guy at the news station tower
Jorge Tamez Well that's weird then.
Because connor being deviant and freeing the androids at cyberlife tower makes her say millions of androids invaded Detroit but that is only if connor succeeds in freeing them
If you do peace and everyone lives and Connor goes deviant and gets the androids, then public opinion will be as high as possible but the news anchors will still be wary
Amanda in an android too..
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Because the cold never bother her anyways..😂
More like Elsa
+Dominika Nowakowska hahahahahaha lol😂
That's not funny she's fucking dead
Guy Who Ate All The Pizza its a video game bud and it was funny.
Vortex
How the fuck is a joke from 2013 funny? What are you 7?
What do you prefer? A leader that follows the will of the general public or a leader who follows their own beliefs on what is right?
Mob rule vs autocrat? Popular will vs general good?
Really disliked the president for being such a sheep in this tbh. Comes off as opportunistic.
fl333r Well she is based on Trump.
She is clearly based on Clinton and that is why she is a sheep of a president.
fl333r Without going into politics to much, it's canon that Pres. Warren became President through her VLogging-career. This I believe to show the rising importance of communication and social media
What could be worst than having to choose between two evils?
Definitely based off of HITLERy
The coolest character is connor but most father character is markus
TH-cam captions *you were compromised and became the DVD* lol lol lol
1:50 HEADSHOT
"And now begins the most challenging moment in our fight..."
"surviving a gunshot to the face"
It’s funny at the end when the crowd starts cheering no one is even moving.
Poor Connor on the last endings. 😢 He couldn’t ever truly be free. Even as a deviant, he was still on Cyberlife’s leash.
12:20 cuts to the next day...
"Hello, I'm Connor, the android sent by CyberLife. My predecessor was unfortunately killed..."
10:38 i like when connor he just stand there
Connor:he is a little Busy right know
Deviants:why his not talking he just stand there
Ow my soul
The irony here is that usually you get this scene if your don't trust Connor. And even if Connor had gone deviant he'll come back this way. There's also a scene where you can talk to a revolutionary Markcus and you can let him go or you can kill him. Machine Connor has that choice. This one's a little nicer this one predisposes because Connor was already deviant at one point that Connor might still be deviant this is the reason you got the choice. Another variation is if you wind up on the rooftop with Hank if you have a high affinity with Hank and your best friends and Connor has had doubts. He's going to put that sniper rifle down and walk away it doesn't matter what you want because his friendship to Hank is enough to sway him. He instantly does what Hank asked him to do even if he doesn't like it.
Obey Amanda
Amanda: don’t care
Disobey Amanda
Amanda: WTF BOI YOU DO WHAT I TELL YOU
Next game: Detroit Become Android
Detroit : become ios
To DeSkyLol123 bahaha
2:00 Starting WW1 Colorized
Damn, nice one
Gavrilo Princip shoots Franc Ferdinand 1914 (colorised)
In the scene where Connor stands behind Marcus and he stops Amanda from taking control over him you can also fail. If you don't manage to find the magic stone 3 times, Connor will shoot Marcus
Even though you can't shoot Amanda, I think she still gets what she deserves. If Connor becomes deviant and escapes the snow land, he basically erased his entire mission programming and software, thereby erasing Amanda with it. Now Amanda is all but nothing and left to be forgotten
You did give up twice when you were supposed to do connor suicide
That KNC reporter said 'they don't feel real emotions' in two ways and presented it as two distinct possibilities.
At least they accurately portray how media pundits be doing their business in this game.
This is why the happy ending is canon for nearly everyone. He’s the best character of the game and they want him to be happy ❤️ he’s only been deviant for a few hours, meaning only truly lived for that long, he doesn’t deserve this 💔🤧
All this is going on while the entire crowd is standing perfectly still and cheering
Wow cool GO GET THE TRENDING
Connor Show you again connor
I see u everywhere Connor
*2:00** : adolf hitler speech in munich 1923 colorised.*
nah seriously change a few words and you got hitlers speech lol
**Markus do the hand thing like hitler does**
notenex why tf are you talking about hitler
Finally played this game. Simply amazing! Would love to see it be a movie.
Connor's trembling makes me sad augzjxj
I don't really understand the "Amanda wins" scenario. She says that they "engineered an Android Revolution and now we control the leader". But what was the point of engineering the Android Evolution and creating machines that have free will?
She's making it all up to pretend she's still in control. One thing a business won't want to do is admit mistakes. Amanda doesn't want to admit that Cyber Life failed, not with Cyber Life still capable of regaining control over Connor. So she lies and tells him that all of the revolution was planned, though it makes zero sense. The writers must have been drunk writing that part of the script.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that was weird.
May be Cyberlife wants to control Android's leader. So they can control whole city with that army LOL
Because they don't have to fix them anymore and yet still have control over them. Their only master is Cyberlife
Their machines don’t have free will. Deviancy was always programmed. The only one who can really be deviant is Connor when he shoots himself. But CyberLife (Kamski) created androids for taking control. RK model was created for convert all of the others (and that’s NOT freedom, they don’t have a choice). So, they are not free. They will never be free. They have the illusion of freedom. But they are machines. This is sad, but true.
This game REALLY deserved an epilouge dlc
“You did what you were designed to do mission”😂😂
The suicide one breaks me heart! Also, he escapes with the exit program so why does he still have to shoot himself? He doesn't have to in the other endings!! D:
amanda: assuming direct control!!!!!!
If I have to take you apart, Connor, I will
7:38 * Cheering *
Reality: *Standing still*
This is why I'm wondering what the Kamski's emergency exit actually is, and why it doesn't have the same effect depending on if Connor is a deviant/machine (free from Cyberlife) or the leader (shoot himself or being under Cyberlife control)
man, Amanda's eyebrows on point when she said ''we'll do great things together''
7:50 the fact that this player let everyone die in the battle cause no one is on stage XD
Underrated comment
Android - gives long, emotional motivational speech to other androids.
President - we will determine if they can be a considered a form of intelligent life
2:57 AWE HE LOOKS SO SCARED
The best moment is when you don't let Amanda to take over but have everyone in the game alive
Connor: kills Markus
The others: well then
I love how you can stil turn deviant if he’s a machine
2:46
when your phone have a virus
Phone can't have virus, it's unlike computer. Do your research.
Amanda isnt designed to trick connor. Shes meant to remind connor about the mission. Thats why shes so strict all the damn time.
* Amanda Betrayed *
Me: * Fortnite dancing * I LOVE THIS SONG
5:29 is that.. Alice and Kara? How did you let them get there akin off and they still live? And Markus still does the speech?
Kathy Kat Pretty sure it’s when Markus liberates the camps just before Alice and Kara get recycled. You can look it up
@Laki Lucky V what happens If you have Luther with you?
'Hi, I'm Connor, I'm the deviant sent by Jericho'
1:14 Carl: Am I a joke to you?
Yeah Markus was the least qualified android to accuse the humans there
Legit thought in the thumbnail, Connor was holding a light bulb.
Amanda is the worst character.
You spelt North wrong
@@isaacisis5876 North is cool.
I think it is cool how you can turn Connor deviant at the last second.
1:31 Look at the left and you will see an android looks like the one that Connor interrogated
Is not the same model, but it seems like Carlos' android.
No way.... There's got to be a way!
Nice, Connor!
To this day I still didn't get why Connor either commits suicide or gives up no matter what, if he becomes the leader of the deviants revolution and win in the end... He was able to disobey Amanda in the end where Markus was the leader and he had the order to shoot him. Was Markus really the only one capable of leading the revolution?
I think it's because Conner won't be a good leader. He's designed to be a detective, nothing more
Connor shooting Markus is always super satisfying
8:09 Connor's face not happy...