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FS2020: Back To Basics With MSFS: Part 4 - Advanced Autopilot: ILS Approach, FLC Mode & More!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- 💥💥IMPORTANT💥💥Some of this videos' procedures do not seem to work with the current G1000 - see here for a better way to fly this Approach: th-cam.com/users/li...
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⌚Timestamps⌚
Introduction: (0:00)
World Map Route Planning: (1:34)
Configuring the ILS route & Aircraft: (3:38)
Actual Flight and Landing at Heathrow: (14:02)
#MSFSTutorials #MSFSILSApproach #MSFSAutopilotILS
Hi Mr Huddison . I have absorbed a great deal from your tutorials which have helped me study the NXi.
Just a couple of points I've noticed on viewing the video for the second time.
The rotation speed for the 172 is 55 knots, and descending, 10° of flap can be set at 110 KIAS and the rest once in the white arc. Both these are as per the POH.
Just a little point as I am a self-confessed pedant, is that runway designations are for example, 'two seven' and never 'twenty seven' as it refects the magnetic heading (to the nearest ten degrees.
I'm sure you already know all this but a wannabe pilot might benefit from knowing it too.
I look forward to each video as I strive to stop becoming rusty.
Happy flying .
Great, transition tricked me in my ILS attemts. Now it worked fine. A perfect and clear lesson. See you in the next video.
That's great to hear Tony.
Excellent series as you build through well thought out degrees of difficulty. I do want to compliment you on your camera work. The G1000 PFD and MFD screens were large, clear and bright - in other words playback is highly readable - well done. Thank you for the professionalism you bring to,your videos. You really do these time consuming productions after going to work at 6::00 AM? Holy Cow! (Midwest USA expression)
Thank you for those amazing comments Steve, you can't imagine how valuable they are to me. Oh & I know the expression 'Holy cow' ;)
Thanks for another super helpful video Huddison! One point about FLC however, you wouldn’t normally setup FLC on the ground. When you hit the FLC button the speed will be taken from the aircrafts current airspeed (which is why your FLC started at zero). Once the air / on the initial climb you can simply hit the FLC and the autopilot will automatically apply your aircrafts current airspeed and continue the climb at this speed to the altitude set using trim. During the climb you can refine the set speed if you wish using the up/down buttons, but typically you would continue to control the climb rate using throttle in much the same way as in manual flight.
I know it sounds backwards but basically throttle controls your climb / descent rate and trim is used to set your speed.
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense and is a wonderful addition to the video.
Thank you so very much, I have been wasting hours with the G1000 ILS functions. As you indicated, I had a number of failed attempts in Northern California. When I flew your route in England, everything worked just as expected………this iteration of the G1000 is awesome. Can’t wait for the next update.
It's a wonderful mod & addition for sure.
Super helpful. I think you are doing it exactly right by adding more complex options incrementally. I often watch your videos multiple times. Please keep them coming. Thank you (don’t envy your early morning!).
Really amazing feedback and oh so helpful for me to know. Thanks very much Shane 😊
Really great video for newbies to ILS like me, easy to follow and understand. After this one I changed planes to the Daher 930 from Gatwick to Bournemouth and using the touchscreen PFD and 'Proc' and the principles were the same and somehow it got me there. Your other videos are really helpful too, nice work! I like that you use PC and Xbox Series S too, showing that this can be available to all. I've had the Velocity One Flight for a week and you helped with that too, much appreciated! (P.S. I remember Interceptor on the Amiga too, didn't we all think that was 'state of the art'.
Thanks Patrick - Interceptor really did blow us all away at the time.
Wonderful job. Just loved the clear and slow instructions ,you are so easy to follow. Thanks
Many thanks Doug :)
going from lesson 1 and so on didn't realize I needed this been so long since I simmed. Thank You
Thanks for the great feedback Mike.
“Lovely, lovely, lovely”. Been waiting on this one. Can’t wait to give it a go next time I’m off. This will make the game more enjoyable for me, big time. Thanks mate.
Have fun and thanks for the great comments :)
@@Huddison yyyyyaaaassssss! Just followed this video and the route. Worked a treat. 👍👍
Just tried with the FSR 500, works great, approach has changed, but that's the sim for you
Nice 👍
Another excellent video. I’ve been trying ILS landings for weeks without success. Going to use this video to try again today.
Best of luck!
Something to probably pay attention on if you're adding an ILS approach inside the aircraft rather than on the world map. When you've selected your transition check to see if there's a frequency showing, if there's no frequency showing it won't work. That's what I've found anyway.
Excellent addition 👍
Thank you Huddison just exactly the video I've been looking for.!! I'm hoping you will do another one for the TBM930 for an ILS. You're the best.!!
Glad it was helpful!
I have been practicing ad hoc ILS approaches at H International (no ILS approach entered in FP) and have found that as long as the locator has been firmly captured with the green line CDI in the centre and you fly at a constant height (assuming within ATC mandates / as on the ILS chart)you can ‘arm’ approach mode and it will capture the glideslope automatically; you don’t have to wait until the green diamond reaches the yellow altitude line. This reduces the mental load in keeping a beady eye on where the diamond is. I also noticed that, because the glideslope at H Int. is 5 degrees, it is very difficult to decend fast enough in the Cessna 172 because even with the throttle fully closed you will still have difficulty in slowing sufficiently to engage flaps so you are likel to well overshoot the numbers and land long but you could still use it to land safely in almost zero vis. (Subject to minimums of course).
Yes indeed, you can activate APR as soon as you're locked onto the Glide path/slope.
Interesting re H Int, I'll have to give that a try.
Finally was able to do an ILS Approach great video as usual with great explanations.
Congrats, that's great to hear .
Great ILS procedure. Still, do not forget to update the altimeter, either tuning the airport ATIS, which is more realistic, or key B on the keyboard.
Thanks & good addition.
Thank you these Back to Basics videos. They are most helpful. However I am having a little difficulty in understanding the Autopilot sections. It's rather complex for a new pilot like me. If you could make a video on how to read these glass gauges that would be most helpful. I have yet to find one. 😀
Great idea; I'll add it to my list. Can you elaborate on what you feel new pilots need to know?
@@Huddison Well the settings first off and binding to your controller but that varies. I've taken the tutorials' but there are big gaps on what to do next like how to start a new flight in the world map or how to properly land. I find landing the hardest part. But all in all I think autopilot and how to know what runway to take off on. However I find your videos the best and user friendly. Thanks for all your hard work. The 'Back to Basics' is perfect for a beginner.
@@dreaux88 Thanks appreciated Jim.
Flying this route now at night 👍👍👍 Thanks.
Good luck.
As usual I found this tutorial enlightening. Thanks again.
Great to hear and thanks for the super comment.
just watched this excellent tutorial, please continue with your instruction vids, appreciate them. Thanks mate
I will do & thanks.
Another helpful video.
Appreciated, thanks Brian.
Thanks for another great video…enjoyable to watch and listen
Many thanks Gary, great feedback.
You keep mentioning the purple line. …. In the avaition business, it’s referred to as the magenta line…. Nice job describing the use of…I learned a couple things. Keep up the good work 😎
I know it's called the magenta link; but it sure looks purple to me 😁
Been watching your videos. Appreciate the instructions. Thought I'd kick in a little to help you keep the site up.
John that is incredibly kind of you; my huge appreciations :)
Thank you for your time and great attention to detail. Really informative information. Like and Subscribed 😊
Thanks David, much appreciated.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to make it👍🏾
Glad you enjoyed it Mike 👍
Great video! Helped me quite a lot
Absolutely great advice
Glad you enjoyed it
The problem I had was caused by updates at microsoft store not being downloaded. I did that and MSFS works fine....for now
Super useful video! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I think you were confused at the 22:45 mark. You increase your rate of climb by increasing throttle. In FLC mode, you are using your throttle to control rate of climb. If you increase throttle, the plane will nose up in order to maintain 74 knots. You also could've used this opportunity to explain Vx, which AFAICT is the speed you were looking for. Vy give you fastest climb, but Vx give you most climb over the least distance travelled.
Thanks for the additions. I made a short recently explaining the V-speeds.
5:00 am here in Florida tomorrow morning, it’s thanksgiving. I’ll be flying somewhere on Xbox S series, great video 👍🏻 I’ve been trying to get the velocity one but it keeps selling out, now I’m seeing them being sold online for double the price,
Happy Thanksgiving - keep persisting with trying to buy a Velocity One for the normal price; don't give in to the scalpers :)
Just get a honeycomb at this point..
@@EternalDetracting I don’t think the Honeycomb works with the Xbox S, I’ve never checked
Just joined your discord so I can learn even more.
by the way i have also watched video 1,2 and 3 fantastic. Thanks
Most welcome 😊
Great video, even with the little "adjustment to SOP". My FS2020 has a bug where I could not add the waypoint as in your video. It would display the mini popup with the ADD option, but I could not select it. I did find that if I backed out to the previous screen and then returned to the flight setup screen, all the previous runway information was still there and then I was able to add the waypoint. Must be a bug in the PC version.
That's happened to me on occasions on both PC and Xbox.
Another Oscar Winner
Many thanks Brian.
i do not ge get the purple line after i enter LOAD ...i am using a different layout ...new york airport and newark...you are doing a great job...thanks
If you pan out on your right G1000 map/zoom range, you may find the wayward line?
Like that video too.
One question Huddison
While en route in the two big screens, what is the name of left display and the right one?
How come you didn’t use the FLC while descending?
Greetings from Boston, Lowell.
:)
I think MSFS will win more and more people to join it.
You could call the left: Primary Flight Display & the Right: Multi Function Display (traditionally setup and used).
You can use FLC or anything that you are comfortable with to descend.
Good day sir. I was following these instructions but have hit a snag early on. I select the departure and arrival runways as shown, but when I see you do so, it automatically plots waypoints for you, but when I select the arrival runway, it just plots a straight line from the end of take off runway to the start of the landing runway. I was hoping you could give me some advice on this please? I had the same issue when trying to copy your first auto pilot video over Paris.
Hello. It sounds like you may have missed a step (or two).
Best heading onto our Discord and sharing this question on there.
It'll be easier than trying to solve it here on TH-cam.
Great video as always Huddison, are you planning on any basic navigation vids using say the 152 or Junkers ?
Thanks again looking forward to the next one.
Yes that's in the pipeline ;)
Just to clarify the situation .... is the g1000NXi a flight guidance system as to opposed say a 737 FMS (Flight Management system ) ?
The G1000 essentially acts as both.
Great Video. Thanks
Most welcome
Great video! Thanks
Thanks John.
just wondering if you plan to do a review of the new honeycomb yoke system that is coming out?
Yes I have one on pre-order.
Thank you for another excellent video! You said that sometimes the ILS approaches don’t work in the sim - how can you tell whether a given approach will work or not? Is there some indication in the sim? Thanks!
I have been using the Flight Simulator for the past 6 months and have been trying to learn Autopilot. I have found your videos very useful. However, when using the ILS approach just before I come in to land and coming off autopilot my throttle accelerates rather than decreases my speed. Is this a bug in MSFS?
It depends where you have your own physical throttle set to on your controller (and the aircraft you are piloting), when you come off Autopilot. Try to match it to what you see in the aircraft.
Lovely tutorial. I followed it for a flight from Heathrow to Luton. I did not believe that the plane was going to turn by itself in a complex approach path but it did! My first time flying only using instruments.
Is there a resource or identifier for which airports have ILS?
Thanks
Good question: it is really a matter of checking/researching your flight route & airports, to see if they have ILS or not.
Websites like airnav.com (www.airnav.com/) will aid you in this.
Hudds … Just rewatching this excellent video 4 on ILS. Did they ever tidy up the approach routes. You used BIG I think
Will have to look aback at that; although my techniques have tidy'd up (I hope ;)
As a side issue. On xBox what’s up with Marketplace
Very helpful. Thanks. Two questions:
1. Is there a reason why you did not use the VNAV feature on the NXi instead of VS and FLC?
2. You mentioned what the "Y" means on the PFD. What are the other three (G, X & R) mean? I seem to recall the G is rotation speed.
Thanks!
I actually looked this up after earlier video from Huddison - and found that Y (or Vy) = Most efficient rate of climb; X (or Vx) = steepest/fastest rate of climb; R (or Vr) = Rotate speed; and G = Best glide speed.
Hope this helps! Regards, Alasdair
Wonderful Alasdair! I was just getting ready to answer myself & you gave a great explanation of the lettering.
In answer to Q1): I'm trying not to overload people with these back to basics videos, so I was trying to concentrate more on the main procedures, rather than introducing more in the same video.
@@AlasdairMacG cheers for that.
Excelente.
Appreciate - many thanks.
I’m new to msfs 2020 and your videos have been just fantastic. I do have one question. When I select ILS approach my PFD does not display the projected altitude next to the AP altitude for each waypoint. Is it a bug or I’m missing a setting?
Thank you for your kind comments. That seems to be a bug that crept in with an update a while back.
Is there a work around? How do I know when to start descending for a waypoint?
Thanks for a great video. Maybe you can help. I did this once before and all was fine. The purple altitude came up in the flight plan and on the left screen where it should next to the required altitude. Today I thought I would refresh my memory and follow along again with your video. Put everything as you describe but in the flight plan the altitude does not come up in purple but plain white and does not appear at all on the left screen. Any ideas would be welcome thanks.
Are you trying to do similar as in this more recent video of mine: th-cam.com/video/dYR_7NEen1M/w-d-xo.html ?
@@Huddison No I am trying to do exactly as per Part 4 - Advanced Autopilot ILS Approach, FLC Mode & More. As I say I have followed on before and had no problem. This time I did the same and no Altitude showing in purple on either screen. It shows on the flight plan screen (7000 ft) but in white.
I'm having the same issue. No purple altitude on the left Garmin. Is that something you turn on/off with a soft key or something?
My experience two years after this video is that pressing VNAV makes the aircraft automatically descend at the optimal rate, i.e the rate designated by the magenta “V” bug. I noticed that in this video the vertical speed is set discretely at 1,000 fpm, which would be set automatically by VNAV. I know that you covered VNAV in subsequent excellent videos. I’m just wondering if VNAV was not fully developed at the time this video was made, or if there is something I’m missing that caused you to use VS on the descent.
I was still fully getting to grips and experimenting (somewhat) with VNAV, when I made this particular video.
@@HuddisonThanks very much! That's sort of what I thought, because your subsequent videos show the automated VNAV approach expertly.
I wake up every day of the week at 5 am for work. So you seams to not using the logitech control panel any more? Do you miss it? Thank you for your very informative video!
Poor you - it wrecks me to wake up that early, but it's a one off.
I will have to find a place for the Multi Panel as it is a great piece of hardware.
Hello, Quick question. 2 years later. Do you know if it is still worth me upgrading to 1000KNI or using the 1000 original? Asking for a friend 😊
Tell your friend that the default version of the G1000 in MSFS, IS the G1000 NXI
I will let my friend know lol. Thanks for letting me know.
So today this afternoon I followed this video perfectly and learned a lot. It was a beautiful flight as it was dark and clear with a full moon.
Thanks again. From New York.
I set up the FLC for 77 knots but when I set the AP on take off I did not gain altitude nor did I keep 77 knots. Don’t know what I missed
Ensure you're in some sort of climb when engaging AP.
Thank you
Thanks for this - this has helped a lot. The only issue I’m having (on this and other plans) is that I don’t see the altitude to be at for each point. Not sure if I’m doing something wrong or if this is a quirk of the Xbox.
I first tried this on the Series S and got the same results.
Ensure you're following each step precisely; let me know exactly where it goes wrong.
@@Huddison yes very odd. I repeated, went and installed all remaining updates and still the same. The main difference I see is from the video is that after selecting ILS 27 L the BIG approach is already highlighted. I then scroll down to load and all of the indicated altitudes have a series of dashes although the heading and distance to each point are shown. Also, including EGKN as a waypoint sees a really odd route for me, quite different to the video where it flies North from LGW, then South South East almost as far back down as EGKK before heading North again to EFKB.
I wonder if I’m on a different patching cycle potentially.
@@stu8715 same for me. no "VECTORS" transition
I did it! Thank you. The only thing is the altitude for the different points didn't show up on the flight plan. Is there a secret for that? I like to set my altitude before selecting FLC or VS.
The NXI is still not fully realised, so altitude bugs may still happen, from time to time (well done btw ;)
@@Huddison I got the rare accomplishment badge. NXI is amazing despite some glitches.
Hudds ... Gave it a try and while a bit all over the place managed to land safely ... Phew. Great instructions. If you did nothing with the speed would it matter for descending ?
Had that C172 thing again we're flaps at 10 degrees on ground before takeoff. Tried to change to zero but went back up to 10 degrees. Only after takeoff did the flaps change to zero. Is it me or the plane. Not sure
Well done!
It does sound like you have some kind of assistance on re the flaps - or a faulty flaps lever perhaps.
@@Huddison Must check that out. If I do nothing with the speed as you did to adjust altitude would it just bring me there anyway ?
@@CanaryIrish If you're descending, you want to ensure that you don't over-speed and stress your aircraft frame, so reducing speed as necessary, is always a good idea.
For some reason, my plane doesn't pick up the altitudes from the GPS. I have to manually use the Nose Up/DOwn buttons under FLC to keep up with the waypoints
Can you explain further?
@@Huddison Sure, I never see the magenta numbers on the left as shown in the video, and the plane doesn’t change altitude even as the waypoints (and their different altitudes) go by. This is despite the fact that I am in FLC and NAV mode with the auto pilot on. I’ll give it another try and see if I can describe better. Thanks!
Greeting sir. Thanks for this video. I did learn some things unknown previously.
Question: I did not see you ever activate the approach using the PROC menu on the MFD. Did I miss that or did you not perform that task? It seemed that your aircraft performed for ILS as expected even if you did not activate the approach when coming to the IAF. I did see you arm the autopilot to APP mode to capture the GS. However, I was under the impression you had to Activate the Approach at the beginning of that phase of the flight.
Also, is there a reason you did not use the VNAV on the autopilot instead on manually descending the plane with the VS mode?
Thanks. Inquiring minds (such as mine) want to know. 😃
Greetings. You are correct, I didn't activate the approach on the MFD - the G1000 NXI is still incomplete in some aspects & as my example in this video shows, it didn't seem to matter if I activated it or not. Typically, one would have to; although it can make the NXI mode 'bug out' in certain situations.
In regards to using VS, I tend to do whatever I feel is quickest\easiest to climb or descend or climb at particular points in a flight. You do whatever comes more naturally to you ;)
@@Huddison Thanks a lot. Since I wrote my comment, I learned that it is not necessary to select "activate approach" if the next waypoint you are flying to is part of the approach. You only use it if you want to skip waypoint(s) that are in the flight plan before you get to the approach and go direct to the first waypoint (i.e. IAF) of the approach.
You approach worked as you were already headed to the IAF.
@@Topcat1952 Great added research there Dennis 👍
I cover a broad range of subjects, so it's often difficult for me to remember all the particulars ;)
@@Huddison Glad I could help for a change. 😁
I have followed your tutorial however the majenta box with the projected altitudes which is supposed to be at the top right of the altitude ribbon does not appear. I have followed your tutorial to the letter any idea what may be wrong. Your tutorials are excellent and i may actually join the channel
Thi9ngs have changed in the Sim and it's respective AP functionality; see this video which will hopefully help you: th-cam.com/users/liveWJUH1g1VJOw?feature=share
@@Huddison that's a fantastic quick response I'll have a watch and hopefully will sort things out. Great stuff
The link you sent explained all beautifully many thanks. I have now joined your channel. I found I have been watching too many different sources going to stick to your videos many thanks
Huddison, love your videos. I’ve watched this particular video at least a dozen times. Duplicated this flight on my Xbox/s countless times. I can’t get the plane to descend. I pickup the localizer, and the glide slope. The glide slope diamond comes down and keeps going down as I fly over the airport. Often times the localizer goes goofy also.
I notice when I press approach, the nav goes off. Is this correct? Any idea what I could be doing wrong? I can land manually by following the localizer and glide slope but the plane will not approach without my input.
Thanks Dan. Ensure that you have your G1000 NXI mod fully up-to-date - I assume you're using the NXI mod?
@@Huddison yes, everything is up to date. I’m wondering if it’s corrupt. I don’t know if there’s a way to delete the g1000nxi and reinstall it on the Xbox.
Instead of google, try the AeroWeather app.
Hi Huddison,
Can you assist me? Since late yesterday my views from the cockpit in MSFS 2020 has the entire view spinning anti clockwise both inside and out, and I don't seem to be able to stop it. I'm using PC Windows 10 and Turtle Beach Velocity 1 yoke/throttle. Thanks Steve
I had something similar happen on my Series S; do you have free panning mode enabled/set for both internal and external views?
@@Huddison Thanks I shall check that later. Steve
I find it surprising that the autopilot would allow the aircraft to approach stall speed without some sort of intervention / warning?
I guess it depends which aircraft you are flying; but the C-172 has manual throttle.
By manual, I presume you mean it cannot be controlled by the autopilot. Somewhat surprising considering it’s cruciality to staying airborne and the ease with which automation can be implemented; after all, even my car has auto electronic speed control via the ‘throttle’). Also surprising that the Garmin doesn’t ‘baulk’ at any dangerously low speed implicit in its solution e.g. audio warning “increase throttle!” ?
Boooooo to a tutorial but using a mod that everybody cant get or does not wants to use