Watch before you purchase your next filter! Triband Review w/ Comparison to L-Ultimate and L-Pro
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Are you trying to figure out what your next or maybe first one shot caller camera filter should be?
Don’t make that decision without watching this video first!
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Just caught up with this video Ryan . Good review and thanks for including dslr also . Would like to see more content on using DSLRs.
I typically don’t use my DSLR or even my Mirrorless for Astro anymore. I do have a video comparing my Nikon Z72 to a OSC Astrocam. I tried to really only shoot in monochrome these days because the results are just that much better and with it being seemingly cloudy this year because of El Niño it’s tough to give up when I know the results won’t be as good.
DSLRs are great for when you get started and don’t want to have to invest additional $$ into an astrophotography camera but if you stay in the hobby long enough to where you use a cooled monochrome camera or even a cooled OSC. You’ll find that your DSLR won’t be getting that much use for this kind of stuff anymore. I like it for Milky Way, and landscape photography still more because of the ability to quickly frame shots and change angles though.
I've had the Antlia filter since December and have been loving it, even in Bortle 7/8 skies. Keep up the excellent channel!
Yeah, I didn’t think it would have any problems in those conditions. Glad to hear the confirmation. Thanks for the kind words!
Great video! I just ordered the Antila RGB today. Its exactly what i was looking for -- a way to image "everything" with my ASI585MC camera i look at including galaxies and reflection nebula and emission nebula but better than just a light pollution filter, one focused on getting 3 colors, and here it is, and its affordable!
Just ordered this today, along with the ALP-T. Can’t wait to get them here and put them to work!
Enjoyed the review.
The newest filter i got already shipped man! I got the Askar "D2" Sii/Oiii filter to add some sulfide to my Ha/Oiii filter
Nice! Obviously, if you can budget for it, having a combination of filters is best I’m curious to see how good those do at isolating, the S to signal. I’ve been shooting mostly narrowband and doing videos on mono chrome… I know more people shoot color and I thought if you can only have one filter or want to combine one with others this was a really good option especially for the price it’s tough to beat under $200
I just bought this filter. It arrived yesterday. Sadly the skies are not cooperating tonight for me to give it a go, but I am looking forward to seeing the results. Thanks for showing me that this should be a good fit.
Man that always happens doesn’t it! I think you’ll like the results. I’m not affiliated with them in anyway I just think if I had to pick one filter to kind of “do it all in” I think it’s a good choice for a color.
I use this filter exclusively with my Edge HD8, ASI533MC Pro with HyperStar. I see no reason to look elsewhere. It truly does all I could wish for.
Been using the L-Extreme dual narrow band but think I may need to check out this Tri-band. Thanks for the review/comparison. Clear skies.
The tri-band would complement that filter well. You could either use the Ha data from the xtreme and combine in for an HARGB.
Or you could get better RGB stars with the tri-band and add them to your images shot with the extreme.
@@darkrangersinc absolutely. Unfortunately my filter wheel is 1.25” and looks like the Antlia Tri-band currently only comes in a 2”.
@@amateurastrophoto3057 might be worth looking at upgrading to a 2 inch filter wheel as any higher and camera is going to have at least an APS-C sized sensor.
You can usually get decent money selling your stuff online
Liked and Subscribed. Looking forward to more inspiring videos and info.
Thank you so much and I really appreciate the support it means a lot!
Hey, sir!
Enjoyed the video, sub’d.
I’m pretty new to the hobby, and am getting to the point that I’m going to get a filter. I’ve been researching and looking around, and there are a ton of options. I recently began to pay more attention to Antlia, particularly this tri-band. I’ve actually been debating between it and a couple of the Optolong options.
Your work here certainly helps to narrow the playing-field, and I think I’m leaning more towards the tri-band as a first filter, and maybe “only”, for a while.
The conditions you tested in are very similar to my current conditions here in Oklahoma. Bortle 6, not 5, but close. And, although it’s going to change, moon is about 65-70% right now.
At any rate, just wanted to say thanks for the work you put into this. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. I’ll finish this one up, and I wish you the best with your growing channel. Will see what we can do to help support! 👍
Hey, all. Let’s hit the subscribe button and push this channel onward and upward! Too easy!
I do own several Optolong and Antlia filters and tend to prefer the quality and design of Antial if that helps I’m not affiliated with either and Agena sells both so you can use my links for either brand. I say that only to say I have no bias or incentive to recommend one over the other.
Either way welcome to the hobby and welcome to the DRI community :)
Love the channel Ryan, keep going mate! Im relatively new to Astro (1Yr) and Im just starting to research filters so this is great. I want to make sure I get the right one as they are pretty expensive down here in Australia. I'm still using my stock Canon dslr under bortle 5 skies using an Askar 65PHQ so not sure which filter would be best for me as my first purchase. I guess it also comes down to targets too as you mention in your video. If you or anyone has any advice for me Id be very appreciative. Cheers Si
I think if you’re looking for one option as I mentioned in the video the tri-band is a great do it all the style filter!
@@rvoykin Cheers Ryan will
Look into it
Subscribed! I have this filter already and love it - Im planning to use this on the Jelly Fish and Crab Nebula - any thoughts on using the Tri-band on these targets or should I use my Oiii and Ha data I have already collected on these two targets ?? Thanks ! Simon
Great analysis 👍
Thank you!
Hi. I purchased this Antila RGB filter to get my RGB with a monochrome camera. I put the filter in a ZWO drawer in front of my filter wheel and I took shots with the RGB filters & the Antila RGB under sky B7 and I was disappointed with the results since the image came out too noisy. It did not outperform my Optolong CLS filter using the same procedure to obtain my RGB. It was very sad as I expected too much from this Antila RGB filter. Clear skies
That’s not the correct use of this RGB filter. You should not be using it to get your RGB data in your monochrome. That’s not the filters fault you’re just using it incorrectly. You need to have a separate R, G, and B filter for that. You could potentially use it for your luminance filter. But you would never successfully get RGB channels out of a monochrome camera with this.
Also, am I reading this right that you put a filter in front of a filter? that’s also not a great idea and would explain why you’re getting noisy images. You filtering out a lot of the signal and you’re just causing an unnecessary restriction in light flow.
@@darkrangersinc Thanks a lot for you feedback. Clear skies.
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Appreciate you
I have that filter and it blows the L-Pro away
Smoked it! And more versatile than most others. 25 nm band pass is basically the exact same as the L enhanced but you get all three channels.
Thanks for this review. I picked one up off Cloudy Nights. What about using it on Dark Nebula? Do you think it would be useful?
I’ve tried the Quadband on dark nebula in the newer version of this video and was able to get some to show but even up to Bortle 5-6 I would still probably do no filter if you’re higher than that the filter may yeild better results.
@@darkrangersinc Thanks, I was hoping for a clear night tonight. I still have to watch your newer review on the Quad
I found the triband filter to be a good luminance filter in light polluted skies. It unfortunately doesn't compete in my opinion against high quality dual band filters + sii filters when you wish to split the reds of ha and sii to make SHO images - which the triband will not be able to make.
Agree totally different use cases. For someone who just is looking to get one filter to do all targets or to add to existing Dual Narrowband for an HaRGB it’s great.
I just added my 5 hours of mono data I mentioned to the RGB image and it was a cool combination I couldn’t get with just a set of Narrowband filters.
Beginners need something simple and this fits the bill with its flexibility and people who are advanced can always use an RGB look to pair with other filters. I typically don’t even shoot color but when I do I think it’s a great filter to have in the arsenal.
Thanks for this review. IYO Is it worth replacing an L-Pro with the Triband?
I would get the quad now that it’s out. It’s only 20 bucks more than the triband. I think it gives you a more natural color. But I do think both are an improvement on the L pro.
I have a follow up video to this on the Quad where I compare all three filters if you want to see some more examples to help make your decision!
@@darkrangersinc Thanks for the info. I will definitely check it out
@@darkrangersinc After a quick search, the quad is already on backorder
Great video, but is this filter just not another Light pollution filter like the hundred or so that are already on the market, just bundled under a new name for marketing reasons, it’s no different from the much cheaper Optolong L-Pro filter….is it..???
Ok, Ok, I just want to make sure I understand that is the Antila triband filter is the one you are shouting right, I may just have a distraction during the main part or a language barrier, I missed something here? The description and title of the video are confusing for me, sorry I feel kind of dumb.
The images of the clamshell are done using only the tri-band and I was comparing it to a couple other filters, because this one kind of fills the gap between a broad spectrum light pollution filter, and a dual narrow band filter.
I do show 2 images (each) behind me when I’m talking about the L-pro and L-ultimate filter… those images we’re done with the filter I’m talking about at the time they appear.
But the main subject of the video (Clamshell) both versions were done using the Triband. Hope that clarifies, thank you for watching much appreciated and clear skies!
Hi again Ryan, what targets do you think will benefit the most from this filter? Im at 416mm focal length so not too many galaxy options but was just interested in your recommendations. Cheers Si
M31 Galaxy would be awesome at 416mm. Really any of the summer nebula targets right now. North America, Veil, Elephant Trunk, sH2-115, Obviously Clamshell, this was shot at 432mm. My IG is the same name and the last 20 images or so are all shot at 432 or 540mm with an APSC sensor.
I even did M101 at 540 and it turned out pretty good. If you have enough exposure time you can crop in you just need a lot of data.
@@darkrangersinc I’m a fair way south in Australia so some targets we do t see for too long but will check out your recommendations mate
Cheers and keep up the great work mom the channel 👍🏻🔭🌌
Hi! Excellent video, thank you very much for uploading it. I shoot with a monochrome camera (ZWO ASI 1600 and Atik 414Ex with a William Optics FLT91) in LRGB from B2 skies but I have to travel hours to get to that sky and I can't always go. I would like to shoot from home in sky B7-8 in LRGB. I have the Astronomik CLS-CCD filter for the L channel but for the RGB, can I use this Antila tri band filter in front of my filter wheel to get the RGB? Or do you recommend the new Antila quad? I would greatly appreciate your suggestions please. Thank you so much.
I have a Quadband on the way and am going to do some testing so maybe hold off for right now so I can give you a concrete answer. Are you wanting to use the Triband for monochrome RGB, or is this for a different camera?
Thanks for your answer. My camera is monochrome. I have an Astronomik 31mm filter mounted on my filter wheel and it is CLS but only for the L channel. I want something similar to be able to shoot in RGB. I don't know if it works to put this Antila filter or the new quad in front of my filter wheel when using my RGB filters separately to obtain my color shots. Thank you so much!@@darkrangersinc
@@elbagre71 you will have to get three separate filters to shoot RGB, you can’t use one filter. It’s a good question I understand why it would seem like you can do that. But unfortunately, with monochrome camera, you can’t use one filter to produce three different color channels. It’s primarily for Color Cameras. Antlia does say on their website you can use these as a luminous filter, but it sounds like you already have that so I would recommend looking at Antlias RGB filters as they are a pretty good value for a high-quality product. For 36 mm they are only a few hundred dollars but perform like filters that cost much more.
@@darkrangersincThank you for your answer....maybe I didn't explain myself well. I already have a set of ZWO R-G-B filters mounted on my filter wheel. My question is whether putting the Antila triple or quad filter in front of my filter wheel can help remove light pollution. For example, I want to select filter B on my filter wheel and in front of it is the Antila filter and take my shots of channel B and the same for R and G. Is this a good idea and if so, which would be better: the quad or triple ? Thank you!
good review, made my decision on this. but cmon... "it not only let more good light in .." No. the light is always the same, filter only BLOCKS light of particular wavelenghts ;) So your background is darker, so your nebulosity/galaxy is more visible. Have great day!
Blocking light of certain wavelengths is allowing less light to hit the sensor. I can’t tell if you’re being facetious since your follow up comment proved the point. The sensor reacts to photons the more photons that hit a pixel the more electrical current it transmit until it hits its full well depth the only way for a sensor to have darker signal with a filter is for it to block the photons from hitting pixel and not registering much signal