I thought that my legend has some issue now is more obvious that 1.11 wasn't good for me unfortunately I sel my laptop and I don't have old backup for 1.09 and from Nokta pages they delete it I would like to ask if you don't have a link from where I could download it 🙏
If you do use the Bluetooth headphones, after connecting them you can change to Bluetooth 2 and it'll play audio in your headphones and out of the speaker if you didn't know
Hi Dan, yes I’ve also gone back to 1:09 found 1:11 to unstable and chatty, it may just be my fields but wasn’t happy, I also agree that the Legend has lost its growl it’s not punching as deep, I think it lost something in all the updates , also also 😅 the new cuff kept pinching my inner forearm when I was wearing T Shirt so gone back yo old cuff as well which I think looks better Awaiting the Beast mode to be released as Nokta has noticed our moans 😝 And are putting things right 😝 Good Old Nokta
I left my LG on v1.09, and waited to hear from a brother who put his LG onto v1.11. His opinion? He's back on v1.09 again. Each to their own, of course, however, he isn't the only one to revert back, after trying LG v1.11 in the field, that I know of, Dan.. Perhaps LG v1.11 is optimal for US kerb-strip/tot-lot/trashy parks? ....I remember Simplex on v2.77 as a wicked tool; 'sparky' with very good depth. Along came SP v 2.87, which many found 'throttled' Simplex to some extent, causing them to revert back to SP v2.77.... For me, if it kicks ass, don't 'fix' it. LG v 1.09 'kicks', for me...Other's perceptions are entirely their own, as are their choices, and 'fair play' to all 👍. 'POS' ( 'perceived obsolescense syndrome'), as I call it, can sometimes prove to be 'counter-productive.' Mobile phones; case in point.
I agree mate, its very much like the simplex situation and like you say, each to their own. If it works for some people then that's fine for them 👍. It does seem like the 1.11 update was very heavily suited to the US, with the bottle cap rejection and ground suppressor etc. Maybe a dedicated UK update would be nice lol 😆. Thank you for watching buddy, see you on the next one 😁👍
Haha like this thumbnail, which is better? Sound familiar 🤣 That worked wonders for me in my video. I'd also recommend doing a 'beginners guide to metal detecting' video too if I were you. The amount of people taking up metal detecting as a hobby is currently HUGE, and I imagine the amount of people who go on TH-cam and search 'how to metal detect' is also HUGE. And when they do type that into TH-cam, it takes them straight to my video cuz mines the only one with that in the title 🤣 Forward thinking. Get involved mate
Haha sorry mate, not a copy cat lol didn't realise you had used that title before 🤦♂️. Not working so well for me at the moment though, it's 9th out of my top ten 🤷🏻♂️. It drives me crazy trying to figure out what works 😂😂. I kike the beginners guide idea mate, definitely something people are going to be searching for 👍. Thanks for watching bro 🙏
Can you search with the machine silent ,instead of all the noise,my minelabs run well silent,was going to get a legend,but the chatter is putting me off,thanks
You can certainly lower most of the setting on the legend so it isn't quite as sparky as mine was lol, that's not a problem at all 👍. I just like it to run a little chatty that's all, totally depends on how you like to run it mate 😁. Don't be put off, it can be a very quiet machine 👌. Feel free to give Jordan a call at Dragon Detecting and mention Digger Dan for 10% worth of freebies on your order 😉 dragondetecting.com/discount/DIGGERD10
Very interesting Dan , we have over a 1,000 hours with the legend now , on pasture we have no trouble with depth and sound we had a George 111 penny at over 12 inches on Sunday sounded loud and proud ,, but on cultivated and ploughed and rolled dry land it seems to go quieter on deep targets , is it the land or the machine ?? .like you say you get used to the machine , were on different fields and land every week so its not as easy for us to judge , so we will be watching very closely ,, great vid and its now another 7days till next vid grrr ,, dig deep Dan keep well buddy
It's a difficult one mate, but as you say, I've actually spent almost my entire time with the legend on cultivated, so as soon as their is a slight change in dynamics, I know about it. I always thought from the start of 1.11, that there was a depth issue, but I needed to take it out in all conditions to see if it was the machine or the soil conditions etc. Having a consistent lack of depth throughout that time, I decided to revert back just to see what all the fuss was about, and I'm glad I did. Instantly I am seeing depth improvement, even in dry, loose soil 👌. Thanks for watching mate, video out tomorrow night at 6pm as always 😎😉
Hi Dan, I too want to revert back to the earlier V1.09 but can you explain where I can get the link to do that please. I looked on the Nokta website and there's no link for the earlier version V1.09 please advise. Many thanks. Jon
Hi Jon, the update tool that you download from the Nokta website, already has the updates built in to it. All you need to do is open the update tool, follow the instructions, select 1.09 from the drop down menu, and update 👍
I spent half a year with 1.11, my friend was constantly ahead of me in coins, I installed 1.09 and we became😮 equal, this is not a coincidence, I have an old legend with 11.11 coil😮
Thanks for making vid about differences. I'm in the U.S. i just ordered the new gen legend with 1.11 right out of the box the audio was scratchy sent it back for exchange sec one was same. In field audio was super low even on surface targets then next day was normal but stull super scratchy so i did the 1.13 sounded normal untill i was hunting could barely hear the audio so i updated to 1.09 you're right its clear and loud i use audio on 2 and it sounds good so far.
I said this about 1.11 / beta 1.10 , I’m a Thames mud digger and know hotspots that always produce , I 100% lost depth , went back to 1.09 , back to the hot spot and pulled out a good amount . Gave the 1.11 final edition another go for 20 ish hours as bottle cap rejection would be a big thing for me and same again , lost depth . Back again to 1.09 and that’s where I’ll stay .
It seems to me like there are more people that agree with us than there are people against. Not sure why Nokta are ignoring the issue, but I really hope they sort something soon, so everyone can make use of those extra settings. Thanks for the comment 😁👍
Hey Dan maybe it would be cool to do a comparison with a mate on 1.11 that also has a legend, then check each others signals, and then dig to check depth. Would be a great video to watch. Greetings from Holland!
I’m sure that’s brilliant info for Legend users mate👏👏 that gaming piece is epic! Love that!! One thing I have noticed about lead esp with the patterned spindal whorls I get is not to wet them sometimes if you take off all the mud you lose the detailing etc👌🏻 but those Xs seem really deep impressions👌🏻
Nice one thank for your thoughts! Same kind of hunts in field M2, I found the sound on the 1.11 update to be mellower and more scratchy, with the audio dynamic being less responsive than 1.09, I reverted back the day after, then I did air depth and iron tests the results were quite good on the 1.11, sounds were cleaner at the edge of detection, maybe a tick more sensibility and depht on tiny stuffs, and separation was at least as good, so I decided to give it another chance, considering minor tweaks like the enhanced bass I'm still with the 1.11 and I recently noticed some audio level variations as well, I didn't thought too much about it since I use the speaker or headphones depending on the place and I need to adjust volume between both, but a factory defaut after a coil change put the things back on track, until next time... I argued a guy against the need to factory reset after a coil change, I look funny now Overall after a couple months on the 1.11, I believe I prefer to use the 1.09, the audio and ferrocheck felt more reliable I was more confident on target analysis, depth and size, I found the performances difference between M1 and M2 less significant on 1.11 I wouldn't be surprised if frequencies had been reweighted, I also feel 1.09 was punchier at depth in dirt and maybe less sensitive to ground humidity, not sure, but you decided me to revert back again for good There is always a point were better is worse, is the 1.09 the best version of the 1.XX lineup? We'll see, also I wouldn't be mad to see an update officially labelled for US or whatever continent, not saying this is the case but a bit more info on "general improvements" could save some struggles to some of us poor tinkerer
I think you are spot on mate, so many little variations between the two updated, and 1.09 just seems to run smoother. I've been out with it a few times now, and like you say, it just feels better at everything. It pinpoints better, it seperates better, audio is better and it just feels like a more confident machine on target ID etc. Thank you for your input mate, much appreciated, and thanks for watching 👍😁
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Agree, I didn't mentioned pinpointing but I also noticed a better precision of the 1.09 right after the 1.11 update, probably related to the sharper audio dynamic, this and the more scratchy sounds made me revert back the first time. Since my first comment I tried the 1.09 on a tiny spot close to my home where I used the 1.11 quite a few times. I was used to only need my hand digger in this small area with hard ground and lot of small iron, I won't write another book on audio behaviour and target response but I needed to grab my shovel on first target and on multiple other good ones with 1.09, I don't need much more to be convinced to stay with this version Yesterday I came accross the Nokta video mentioning this, basically saying we are talking craps and don't know much about detecting. Since the 1.09 fits me nicely I don't really care if the 1.11 has an issue or is the best of all updates, I just use what I like and works the best for me, but this is the first time I'm disappointed by them. If only the 1.09 has 4 or 5 segments in full tone like the last D2 update I would be thrilled with! Thank you for bringing the subject into the light and being honest and objective about it no matter the brand relations, I really like what you're doing!
1.11 berbat derinlik yok ve küçük parçaları net ayırmıyor ıf3 olmasına rağmen küçükleri yakalayamıyorum birde yetmezmiş gibi siteden 1.09 u kaldırmışlar kızgınım
I've noticed this too I thought inwas going mad cause honestly I have the same problem things that should loud aren't really coming through so I might revert back and see
@Digger Dan Metal Detecting I will as one field me and my mates do as one mates is the only one to get hammereds of the field and my other mates on the legend like me we only got coppers so it will be interesting to see
Same here mate, absolutely love it 👌. Not found much lead items that are something, in my time detecting and now, twice in two weeks 🤷🏻♂️. Thanks for watching mate 👍
Yes, single, lower frequencies will get you more depth than multi frequency, but the legend has good depth on multi before, so it should still have now. I'll stick with 1.09 for now, until they give the legend its punch back, like it had when it was first released 👍
There are no changes to the software mate, only the hardware. New arm cuff, new carbon upper stem and new LG30 Coil. You are going to love that setup mate, it's a beast of a machine 💪.
Well I rolled back to 1.09 on a dig last weeked in Dorset on hard baked soil and found toasted William III penny, bullet casing , 1907 Penny, copper gold gilded tie clip and some lead. the William coin was 8" down and about 5 for the penny. Could be coincidence or I had a lucky day but for now I leave it on 1.09. I was fully open with no Discrimination and only IF at 2 everything else was 0
Glad to hear you are getting some good depth mate. I've had a lot of feedback on the updates, and it seems that most have notices some loss in depth on 1.11, so it seems it is more than just coincidence 🤔. Hope they sort out a solution for this soon, so we can all enjoy the latest update again 👍
I've not managed to find them anywhere mate, but I would imagine if you contact either lp metal detecting, or nokta themselves, they will either replace the shaft, or sorce you a new clamp 👍
@@Sussex-beach-detecting Two simplest options I see for this, strips of electrical tape on the shaft were it close, or adding a thin piece of inner tube or leather with double sided tape on the inside rubber pad
Nice day detecting,i have held off updating and stuck to the 1.09,for the same reasons,nice lead gaming pice,did you get anymore info regarding the last marked lead ? (Grave marker?)do well buddy
Thanks mate, no word on the other lead piece yet mate, for some reason my FLO are not responding to any of my emails 🤷🏻♂️. When I get some answers, I will let you know 😁👍
Thank you Dan any all others that have posted on this subject, I thought it was me 😝 my mate Chris P Silver updated my legend for me when he does his and I just wasn’t getting on with it , the 1.11 just didn’t feel right and Quinn my legend wasn’t as stable as she was in 1.09 after watching this video and reading comments I will be changing back to 1.09 asap. 😝 love the gaming piece poss Roman Domino super find , not long now will see you on the 16th at the Templar Dig going to be fun
They say that there is nothing wrong with 1.11, strange how so many people are saying that there is and that they are loosing depth etc. Nice to find a piece of lead that is actually something lol 😆. Can't wait for the weekender mate, will be great to meet you and everyone else. Think I'm more excited about the BBq 🤣🤣🤣
Good video Dan and I’m like you going back to one point nine I’d noticed a fall off in depth nothing much more than 4-5 inches really since I updated it to 1.11 keep them coming Dan always an enjoyable watch 👍
Thank you mate, it seems there are a lot of people with the same thoughts on the new update. There is definitely something going on with it, but I'm not sure that Nokta are going to acknowledge it 🤔. Dilek said in a live tonight about the new simplex, that the legend update 1.11 is the best update and everyone should be using it 🤷🏻♂️. I'm not saying the update isn't a good one, but when you go back to 1.09 after over 100 hours on 1.11 and instantly notice an improvement on depth, then surely there something there? 🤔. I never intended on finding any improvement, as I loved 1.11, but it is what it is 👍. Thank you for watching mate 👍
Funnily enough all my 1.11 could seem to find was small lead. While all around me in a group dig were finding silver hammered, all i dug all day was three .22LR bullets :-(
I think that could be more of a case of not walking over it unfortunately, I had no trouble finding gold and silver on 1.11, just wasn't finding anything very deep, and when it was deep, the signals were quiet 🤷🏻♂️
@@sheryvilson8692 I tried updating back but every time when I choose 1.09 it’s updated back 1.11 even I select only 1.09 files 🤔when you go back do you have to delete another one or what? Or which exact type of extract file you use to get back to 1.09
Thanks for information I would like to see difference between upgrades as I have two legends one year old another last upgrade new version I could compare them what I already spot that before legend with 1.09 go deeper as I do mostly beaches in beach program factory setting was audio gain 0 and recovery speed 7 new legend factory settings in the bech is audio gain 3 and recovery speed 6 . I use to dig targets over feet deep every time the deepest coin I dig was 1917 pence 54 centimetres deep in sand since 1.11 I spot ďifferen audio level like machin is silent and I don't go under pinpointer depth approximately 9 inch. I am curious try simple air test one machine with old and another with new update same coil and real test just for fun on the beach . In my opinion nokta try to compensate lose depth with audio gain have over 600 hours on my first one so I hope that I know it a little bit now. 😂
Great video as usual dan that is a lovely lead gaming piece & a nice selection off finds this week interesting thought's on v 1.09 which i am still on had read quite a bit about v1.11 & had deciced to stick to former do you think the all metal mode makes any difference? Keep up the good work mate
Thanks buddy, it seems like a lot of people didn't get on with 1.11, yet Nokta still seem to say there isn't an issue with it 🤷🏻♂️. I'm sticking with 1.09 for now I think 👌. All metal mode is always going to be the best option, as it is one less filter on the machine and helps to open its full potential up a little more. Every setting is a filter of some kind and they all make the machine weeker and work harder. The less filters the better 👌. Thank you for watching mate 👍
Great video as usual Dan, I wouldn't worry too much about depth on cultivated land.. If you are concerned with depth maybe try the Legend on pasture land that may give you more confidence depth wise. Seems like the audio gain was being a little deceptive was good detecting reverting back to previous settings, if it's not broke don't fix it sort of thing.. Shame about the gold foil :)... Cracking video though love watching the videos.
I'm not overly concerned about getting depth on my cultivated land, but it was more of a worry that the targets at 8 ish inches were very quiet 🤔. As soon as I go back to 1.09, these targets are now back to being loud and clear, even with the audio gain lowered. I think 1.11 is a great update, and Nokta do an amazing job, but they are not detecting my ground, and only I know what works there 👍. Thanks for your input mate, I really appreciate it, and thanks very much for watching 😁👍
Love your finds DD. That gaming piece is amazing! The shape of the crosses surly denotes a fair age. All the best M8, cheers, John. Did l say already, very well done on the 4K+ subs.
Hey John mate, hope you are well 😁👍. Love that domino mate, never found much lead stuff, so was a nice change 👌, definitely old. Thank you so much for watching buddy 😁
hi dan brilliant comments there on the 09 and 111 wow what a find with that lead, i went out on a club dig on sunday guess what? liz 1st three pence 1573 (found mine with the manticore) great vid as per the norm geoff swansea
Have been wondering myself last few months whether it was 1.11 or 0 ground balance. To be fair, I felt like I was smashing it a year ago and felt so comfortable and confident with the machine. I am going to go back to ground balancing for the next few digs and then decide. I'm in Lincolnshire and still not sure whether to ground balance or not. I don't dig anything deep.
Ground balancing should improve depth if the ground is mineralised 👍. It says in the manual that the machine doesn't need to be ground balanced unless you have mineralised soil, and also dilek mentioned at one point, that her engineer doesn't ground balance when testing and using the machine 👍. The question it, do you have mineralised soil? Thank you for watching
It will have been a scammer mate, please just ignore messages like that, especially if they give a phone number to text etc. Please do not contact them
Thanks for this video Dan 🙂Since updating to V1.11 i have not had many deep signals 🤔Think i am going to try V1.09 on my hoard site that i have detected a million times. If it finds any signals there i will be sticking with V1.09. Great video as always, love that gaming piece 😍xx
Well I've seen the results from your test kirsty, and it amazing what a difference it makes. Feels like a much more stable and reliable machine on 1.09. Glad it worked for you too 😊. Thank you for watching ❤
All the updates are included in the update tool. Download it, follow the instructions, and when you get to the drop down menu that says 1.11, just select 1.09 👍😁
Crazy cool gaming piece! I'm surprised the hour meter doesn't get mentioned on the Legend more often? Thinking they have been out a little less than a year now. I know my meter is showing just under 16 days. Anyway curious as to what yours might be showing? Thanks for all the helpful information. Great video as always!!!
Thank you mate 👍. I think mine is on around 23 days, but this is my third unit, as the speakers went on the first two. So could probably add a couple of days worth to that. Thanks for watching buddy 👍
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Very interesting! The speaker went out on my first one as well. I had a group hunt coming up with Nugget Noggin in South Carolina when I sent mine off for repairs. Because I liked the legend so much I ordered two more because I didn't want to be without one. It appears the speaker problems have been addressed. Thank you for sharing. Keep the videos coming please.
If you already have the latest update tool, then you already have the 1.09 update. All you have to do is open the tool, follow the instructions and the select 1.09 from the drop down menu where it says 1.11 👍. Hope that helps mate
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting malesef öyle değil son sürümle bütün sürümlere sahip olmuyorsun 1.11 yükleyip cihazınızı köreltmeyin 1.09 en iyisi sadece hassasiyeti kısarak 1.11 gibi kullanabilirsin çok iyi bir sürüm gelmedikçe 1.09 benim için kral 1.11 den nefret ediyorum sadece gezmek için ormana giden emeklilere göre birşeyler bulmaz
I’ve been using 1:11 since it came out I haven’t noticed any depth differences since the update. I detect on ploughed ground and pasture wet or dry. It’s difficult to prove a difference one way or another as the targets and ground vary so much. Personally I’ll be sticking with 1:11
1.11 seems to work for some, and not for others. I noticed a huge improvement instantly after reverting back and I had a feeling for a long while that something was not right. Glad it's working fine for you mate 👍. Thank you for watching
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting was out today 2nd time with the LG30 coil over rough ground (pheasant cover) lots or iron and pulled 7 small Romans 2 at least 8 inches deep. Keep up the good work always enjoy your content. 👍
Oh no Dan now you need to go back over your previously detected land to see if there are more targets missed ! Great bit of info Im so close to deciding to go legend next thanks to you
I'm going to make my way around all of those fields when the crops are off again. Got to be more to find with that extra depth 👍. You wouldn't regret buying a legend mate, money very well spent. It's as good as they get, and you could spend a lot more and get less 👌
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Thankyou Dan My other half has just won a simplex!!! On the big metal detecting podcast!! And she found her first gold on tuesday ( durotriges tribe celtic 1/4 stater) followed by a lizzie penny!!! We are going to do the lottery this weekend!! 🤣😂 Happy hunting dude Thanks for all you do Dan Top guy
Hi Dan, this is some very useful info, now that me and Julie both have a Legend, we are in the perfect position to compare the two versions, I'll revert to 1.09 and we'll do live comparisons in the field, we gave up the other day on a trashy field, soul destroying mate. at least you had your Roman grot and a few coins of that field. switch fields and a lovely lead gaming peice, Hammered, nice one my friend. ATB Bill and Julie 👍😊❤
@@davesherriff I've changed mine back to v1.09, left Julies on v1.11. All the rest of the settings between the two are identicle. did an air test and the v1.09 is punchier and louder with a cartwheel penny at 6 inches, not only that the numbers were stable with v1.09 and a bit jumpy with v1.11. looking forward to a field test this weekend.
Hi Dan, I've been considering going back to 1.09 for a while. I haven't had any deep targets since I've updated. My friend who uses nox 600 was picking up signals and the Legend wasn't even picking them up. Went out with the Multi Kruzer at the weekend and pulled up a Roman, George 2nd and a Vicky bun head. Really needed that to boost the confidence. Definitely going to revert back to 1.09 until Nokta recognises there is an issue. Thanks for sharing buddy. Have a fantastic week 😊
That's very interesting Dan, I've had my audio gain cranked right up and I was using creative headphones the ones which are low latency and I thought it was the headphones everything seams quiter and even maxed out the volume on the headphones. I'm on a group dig in Ilfracombe on sunday so I shall roll back also and see if it makes a difference. Are you going to email Nokta?
Would be interested to see what you think after rolling back mate 👍. I think nokta must have had hundreds of emails about the issue, so I won't email them. This video should get their attention though 😉
I thought that my legend has some issue now is more obvious that 1.11 wasn't good for me unfortunately I sel my laptop and I don't have old backup for 1.09 and from Nokta pages they delete it I would like to ask if you don't have a link from where I could download it 🙏
If you do use the Bluetooth headphones, after connecting them you can change to Bluetooth 2 and it'll play audio in your headphones and out of the speaker if you didn't know
I switched my aluminum extended upper shaft from my simplex to the legend
Hi Dan, yes I’ve also gone back to 1:09 found 1:11 to unstable and chatty, it may just be my fields but wasn’t happy, I also agree that the Legend has lost its growl it’s not punching as deep, I think it lost something in all the updates , also also 😅 the new cuff kept pinching my inner forearm when I was wearing T Shirt so gone back yo old cuff as well which I think looks better
Awaiting the Beast mode to be released as Nokta has noticed our moans 😝
And are putting things right 😝 Good Old Nokta
I left my LG on v1.09, and waited to hear from a brother who put his LG onto v1.11. His opinion? He's back on v1.09 again. Each to their own, of course, however, he isn't the only one to revert back, after trying LG v1.11 in the field, that I know of, Dan.. Perhaps LG v1.11 is optimal for US kerb-strip/tot-lot/trashy parks? ....I remember Simplex on v2.77 as a wicked tool; 'sparky' with very good depth. Along came SP v 2.87, which many found 'throttled' Simplex to some extent, causing them to revert back to SP v2.77.... For me, if it kicks ass, don't 'fix' it. LG v 1.09 'kicks', for me...Other's perceptions are entirely their own, as are their choices, and 'fair play' to all 👍. 'POS' ( 'perceived obsolescense syndrome'), as I call it, can sometimes prove to be 'counter-productive.' Mobile phones; case in point.
I agree mate, its very much like the simplex situation and like you say, each to their own. If it works for some people then that's fine for them 👍. It does seem like the 1.11 update was very heavily suited to the US, with the bottle cap rejection and ground suppressor etc. Maybe a dedicated UK update would be nice lol 😆.
Thank you for watching buddy, see you on the next one 😁👍
Haha like this thumbnail, which is better? Sound familiar 🤣 That worked wonders for me in my video. I'd also recommend doing a 'beginners guide to metal detecting' video too if I were you. The amount of people taking up metal detecting as a hobby is currently HUGE, and I imagine the amount of people who go on TH-cam and search 'how to metal detect' is also HUGE. And when they do type that into TH-cam, it takes them straight to my video cuz mines the only one with that in the title 🤣 Forward thinking. Get involved mate
Haha sorry mate, not a copy cat lol didn't realise you had used that title before 🤦♂️. Not working so well for me at the moment though, it's 9th out of my top ten 🤷🏻♂️. It drives me crazy trying to figure out what works 😂😂.
I kike the beginners guide idea mate, definitely something people are going to be searching for 👍.
Thanks for watching bro 🙏
Can you search with the machine silent ,instead of all the noise,my minelabs run well silent,was going to get a legend,but the chatter is putting me off,thanks
You can certainly lower most of the setting on the legend so it isn't quite as sparky as mine was lol, that's not a problem at all 👍. I just like it to run a little chatty that's all, totally depends on how you like to run it mate 😁. Don't be put off, it can be a very quiet machine 👌. Feel free to give Jordan a call at Dragon Detecting and mention Digger Dan for 10% worth of freebies on your order 😉
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toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo talkative...............................
I like to talk sometimes lol 😆 🤦♂️
Brilliant job dan brother ground is hard as in kent
Thanks brother 🙏 😎
Very interesting Dan , we have over a 1,000 hours with the legend now , on pasture we have no trouble with depth and sound we had a George 111 penny at over 12 inches on Sunday sounded loud and proud ,, but on cultivated and ploughed and rolled dry land it seems to go quieter on deep targets , is it the land or the machine ?? .like you say you get used to the machine , were on different fields and land every week so its not as easy for us to judge , so we will be watching very closely ,, great vid and its now another 7days till next vid grrr ,, dig deep Dan keep well buddy
It's a difficult one mate, but as you say, I've actually spent almost my entire time with the legend on cultivated, so as soon as their is a slight change in dynamics, I know about it. I always thought from the start of 1.11, that there was a depth issue, but I needed to take it out in all conditions to see if it was the machine or the soil conditions etc. Having a consistent lack of depth throughout that time, I decided to revert back just to see what all the fuss was about, and I'm glad I did. Instantly I am seeing depth improvement, even in dry, loose soil 👌.
Thanks for watching mate, video out tomorrow night at 6pm as always 😎😉
Hi Dan, I too want to revert back to the earlier V1.09 but can you explain where I can get the link to do that please. I looked on the Nokta website and there's no link for the earlier version V1.09 please advise. Many thanks. Jon
Hi Jon, the update tool that you download from the Nokta website, already has the updates built in to it. All you need to do is open the update tool, follow the instructions, select 1.09 from the drop down menu, and update 👍
I spent half a year with 1.11, my friend was constantly ahead of me in coins, I installed 1.09 and we became😮 equal, this is not a coincidence, I have an old legend with 11.11 coil😮
Thanks for making vid about differences. I'm in the U.S. i just ordered the new gen legend with 1.11 right out of the box the audio was scratchy sent it back for exchange sec one was same. In field audio was super low even on surface targets then next day was normal but stull super scratchy so i did the 1.13 sounded normal untill i was hunting could barely hear the audio so i updated to 1.09 you're right its clear and loud i use audio on 2 and it sounds good so far.
I said this about 1.11 / beta 1.10 , I’m a Thames mud digger and know hotspots that always produce , I 100% lost depth , went back to 1.09 , back to the hot spot and pulled out a good amount . Gave the 1.11 final edition another go for 20 ish hours as bottle cap rejection would be a big thing for me and same again , lost depth . Back again to 1.09 and that’s where I’ll stay .
It seems to me like there are more people that agree with us than there are people against. Not sure why Nokta are ignoring the issue, but I really hope they sort something soon, so everyone can make use of those extra settings. Thanks for the comment 😁👍
Hey Dan maybe it would be cool to do a comparison with a mate on 1.11 that also has a legend, then check each others signals, and then dig to check depth.
Would be a great video to watch.
Greetings from Holland!
Mine came with 1.13 lol. But love to see the differences you're talking about.
1.13 is same as 1.11 but a bug with nokta pin pointer issue resolved so I was informed just fyi :)
@@biker-dog-poppy also 1.13 incorporated the threshold update as well
@@2010stoof ohhh didn't know that... thank you, learning everyday.
I’m sure that’s brilliant info for Legend users mate👏👏 that gaming piece is epic! Love that!!
One thing I have noticed about lead esp with the patterned spindal whorls I get is not to wet them sometimes if you take off all the mud you lose the detailing etc👌🏻 but those Xs seem really deep impressions👌🏻
Good info mate, I'm a suckered for giving everything a spray lol 😆. Those x's aren't going anywhere though 😉.
Thank you for watching buddy 🙏
Nice one thank for your thoughts! Same kind of hunts in field M2, I found the sound on the 1.11 update to be mellower and more scratchy, with the audio dynamic being less responsive than 1.09, I reverted back the day after, then I did air depth and iron tests the results were quite good on the 1.11, sounds were cleaner at the edge of detection, maybe a tick more sensibility and depht on tiny stuffs, and separation was at least as good, so I decided to give it another chance, considering minor tweaks like the enhanced bass
I'm still with the 1.11 and I recently noticed some audio level variations as well, I didn't thought too much about it since I use the speaker or headphones depending on the place and I need to adjust volume between both, but a factory defaut after a coil change put the things back on track, until next time... I argued a guy against the need to factory reset after a coil change, I look funny now
Overall after a couple months on the 1.11, I believe I prefer to use the 1.09, the audio and ferrocheck felt more reliable I was more confident on target analysis, depth and size, I found the performances difference between M1 and M2 less significant on 1.11 I wouldn't be surprised if frequencies had been reweighted, I also feel 1.09 was punchier at depth in dirt and maybe less sensitive to ground humidity, not sure, but you decided me to revert back again for good
There is always a point were better is worse, is the 1.09 the best version of the 1.XX lineup? We'll see, also I wouldn't be mad to see an update officially labelled for US or whatever continent, not saying this is the case but a bit more info on "general improvements" could save some struggles to some of us poor tinkerer
I think you are spot on mate, so many little variations between the two updated, and 1.09 just seems to run smoother. I've been out with it a few times now, and like you say, it just feels better at everything. It pinpoints better, it seperates better, audio is better and it just feels like a more confident machine on target ID etc.
Thank you for your input mate, much appreciated, and thanks for watching 👍😁
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Agree, I didn't mentioned pinpointing but I also noticed a better precision of the 1.09 right after the 1.11 update, probably related to the sharper audio dynamic, this and the more scratchy sounds made me revert back the first time. Since my first comment I tried the 1.09 on a tiny spot close to my home where I used the 1.11 quite a few times. I was used to only need my hand digger in this small area with hard ground and lot of small iron, I won't write another book on audio behaviour and target response but I needed to grab my shovel on first target and on multiple other good ones with 1.09, I don't need much more to be convinced to stay with this version
Yesterday I came accross the Nokta video mentioning this, basically saying we are talking craps and don't know much about detecting. Since the 1.09 fits me nicely I don't really care if the 1.11 has an issue or is the best of all updates, I just use what I like and works the best for me, but this is the first time I'm disappointed by them. If only the 1.09 has 4 or 5 segments in full tone like the last D2 update I would be thrilled with!
Thank you for bringing the subject into the light and being honest and objective about it no matter the brand relations, I really like what you're doing!
I went back to the 1.09 a couple of weeks back and that's where I'm saying, 1.11 was definitely not for me
It definitely seems like 1.11 is not for everyone mate, it's a great update, but seems to be lacking in depth 🤔.
1.11 berbat derinlik yok ve küçük parçaları net ayırmıyor ıf3 olmasına rağmen küçükleri yakalayamıyorum birde yetmezmiş gibi siteden 1.09 u kaldırmışlar kızgınım
I tried all the firmware and went back to version 1.07. She is the most stable of all.
Do you think using the speeker all time just hurt the speeker just thought sounds loud tho now
I have the new updated speaker, so shouldn't be a problem. The audio seems better now on 1.09 👍
I've noticed this too I thought inwas going mad cause honestly I have the same problem things that should loud aren't really coming through so I might revert back and see
Give it a try mate, and let me know your thoughts 👍😁
@Digger Dan Metal Detecting I will as one field me and my mates do as one mates is the only one to get hammereds of the field and my other mates on the legend like me we only got coppers so it will be interesting to see
Find of today for me was the lead gaming piece 👌 absolute cracker👏👏👏
Same here mate, absolutely love it 👌. Not found much lead items that are something, in my time detecting and now, twice in two weeks 🤷🏻♂️.
Thanks for watching mate 👍
Great vid and gets you thinking. I was out at the weekend and used 4Hz which was great. Good depth on 1.11 and clear. Try it next time out buddy. 😊
Yes, single, lower frequencies will get you more depth than multi frequency, but the legend has good depth on multi before, so it should still have now. I'll stick with 1.09 for now, until they give the legend its punch back, like it had when it was first released 👍
Sitede 1.09 kaldırmışlarmı göremiyorum eski sürümlere dönmenin bir yolu varmı yardım edermisin dostum
Hi Dan, ive been thinking this for a while, how do you revert back to 1.09 ? Cheers great vid again
1.09 it in the new update tool. Just select it from the drop down menu in the tool 👍.
Thank you for watching buddy 🙏
Güncelleme aracı dediğin nedir yeni bir uygulamamı yaptılar
The domino mite have something in it
That's an interesting theory. Don't think I dare open it though lol 😆.
Thank you for watching 😁👍
Hi. I am thinking of buying a Nokta Legend 2023/LG30. Besides cosmetic changes, are there any substantial ones in the control unit?
There are no changes to the software mate, only the hardware. New arm cuff, new carbon upper stem and new LG30 Coil. You are going to love that setup mate, it's a beast of a machine 💪.
Well I rolled back to 1.09 on a dig last weeked in Dorset on hard baked soil and found toasted William III penny, bullet casing , 1907 Penny, copper gold gilded tie clip and some lead. the William coin was 8" down and about 5 for the penny. Could be coincidence or I had a lucky day but for now I leave it on 1.09. I was fully open with no Discrimination and only IF at 2 everything else was 0
Glad to hear you are getting some good depth mate. I've had a lot of feedback on the updates, and it seems that most have notices some loss in depth on 1.11, so it seems it is more than just coincidence 🤔.
Hope they sort out a solution for this soon, so we can all enjoy the latest update again 👍
Hi Dan you said about the shaft wobble on the legend I have that problem can you get the replacement rubber pads ?
I've not managed to find them anywhere mate, but I would imagine if you contact either lp metal detecting, or nokta themselves, they will either replace the shaft, or sorce you a new clamp 👍
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting ok mate cheers
@@Sussex-beach-detecting Two simplest options I see for this, strips of electrical tape on the shaft were it close, or adding a thin piece of inner tube or leather with double sided tape on the inside rubber pad
If you like to go back to 1.09, that version is already in the update tool for version 1.11, follow the update procedure and choose 1.09 iso 1.11
Thank you, I have already reverted back to 1.09 👍
👍🏻🤣 great video
Thank you very much 😁
Watching now looking for that hammerd with u
Found it, but on a different field lol 😆. Thanks for watching
Great video as always dan really nice gaming peace well done stay lucky mate all the best 👍
Thank you Paul mate, much appreciated 😁👍
Nice day detecting,i have held off updating and stuck to the 1.09,for the same reasons,nice lead gaming pice,did you get anymore info regarding the last marked lead ? (Grave marker?)do well buddy
Thanks mate, no word on the other lead piece yet mate, for some reason my FLO are not responding to any of my emails 🤷🏻♂️. When I get some answers, I will let you know 😁👍
Thank you Dan any all others that have posted on this subject, I thought it was me 😝 my mate Chris P Silver updated my legend for me when he does his and I just wasn’t getting on with it , the 1.11 just didn’t feel right and Quinn my legend wasn’t as stable as she was in 1.09 after watching this video and reading comments I will be changing back to 1.09 asap. 😝 love the gaming piece poss Roman Domino super find , not long now will see you on the 16th at the Templar Dig going to be fun
They say that there is nothing wrong with 1.11, strange how so many people are saying that there is and that they are loosing depth etc.
Nice to find a piece of lead that is actually something lol 😆.
Can't wait for the weekender mate, will be great to meet you and everyone else. Think I'm more excited about the BBq 🤣🤣🤣
Good video Dan and I’m like you going back to one point nine I’d noticed a fall off in depth nothing much more than 4-5 inches really since I updated it to 1.11 keep them coming Dan always an enjoyable watch 👍
Thank you mate, it seems there are a lot of people with the same thoughts on the new update. There is definitely something going on with it, but I'm not sure that Nokta are going to acknowledge it 🤔. Dilek said in a live tonight about the new simplex, that the legend update 1.11 is the best update and everyone should be using it 🤷🏻♂️. I'm not saying the update isn't a good one, but when you go back to 1.09 after over 100 hours on 1.11 and instantly notice an improvement on depth, then surely there something there? 🤔. I never intended on finding any improvement, as I loved 1.11, but it is what it is 👍.
Thank you for watching mate 👍
Funnily enough all my 1.11 could seem to find was small lead. While all around me in a group dig were finding silver hammered, all i dug all day was three .22LR bullets :-(
I think that could be more of a case of not walking over it unfortunately, I had no trouble finding gold and silver on 1.11, just wasn't finding anything very deep, and when it was deep, the signals were quiet 🤷🏻♂️
Guys could you please if you have 1.09 upgrade for Windows send me link for downloading Thank you
1.5; 1.7; 1.9; 1.11 - Все обновления в одном пакете
1.5; 1.7; 1.9; 1.11 - all updates are in one package
@@sheryvilson8692 I tried updating back but every time when I choose 1.09 it’s updated back 1.11 even I select only 1.09 files 🤔when you go back do you have to delete another one or what? Or which exact type of extract file you use to get back to 1.09
1.09 is in the drop down menu on the latest update tool. Use the drop down arrow, select 1.09 from the list, and update 👍
Thanks for information I would like to see difference between upgrades as I have two legends one year old another last upgrade new version I could compare them what I already spot that before legend with 1.09 go deeper as I do mostly beaches in beach program factory setting was audio gain 0 and recovery speed 7 new legend factory settings in the bech is audio gain 3 and recovery speed 6 . I use to dig targets over feet deep every time the deepest coin I dig was 1917 pence 54 centimetres deep in sand since 1.11 I spot ďifferen audio level like machin is silent and I don't go under pinpointer depth approximately 9 inch. I am curious try simple air test one machine with old and another with new update same coil and real test just for fun on the beach . In my opinion nokta try to compensate lose depth with audio gain have over 600 hours on my first one so I hope that I know it a little bit now. 😂
Another thought - are you sure the speaker replacement you had dine hasn't changed the volume you're perceiving?
I've had that new speaker in for a long time now, and after going back to 1.09, there is definitely an improvement in sound quality 👌😁
Great video as usual dan that is a lovely lead gaming piece & a nice selection off finds this week interesting thought's on v 1.09 which i am still on had read quite a bit about v1.11 & had deciced to stick to former do you think the all metal mode
makes any difference? Keep up the good work mate
Thanks buddy, it seems like a lot of people didn't get on with 1.11, yet Nokta still seem to say there isn't an issue with it 🤷🏻♂️. I'm sticking with 1.09 for now I think 👌.
All metal mode is always going to be the best option, as it is one less filter on the machine and helps to open its full potential up a little more. Every setting is a filter of some kind and they all make the machine weeker and work harder. The less filters the better 👌.
Thank you for watching mate 👍
Great video as usual Dan, I wouldn't worry too much about depth on cultivated land.. If you are concerned with depth maybe try the Legend on pasture land that may give you more confidence depth wise. Seems like the audio gain was being a little deceptive was good detecting reverting back to previous settings, if it's not broke don't fix it sort of thing.. Shame about the gold foil :)... Cracking video though love watching the videos.
I'm not overly concerned about getting depth on my cultivated land, but it was more of a worry that the targets at 8 ish inches were very quiet 🤔. As soon as I go back to 1.09, these targets are now back to being loud and clear, even with the audio gain lowered. I think 1.11 is a great update, and Nokta do an amazing job, but they are not detecting my ground, and only I know what works there 👍.
Thanks for your input mate, I really appreciate it, and thanks very much for watching 😁👍
Love your finds DD. That gaming piece is amazing! The shape of the crosses surly denotes a fair age.
All the best M8, cheers, John. Did l say already, very well done on the 4K+ subs.
Hey John mate, hope you are well 😁👍. Love that domino mate, never found much lead stuff, so was a nice change 👌, definitely old.
Thank you so much for watching buddy 😁
Super video ,merci pour ces informations sur la v1.09 .
You are welcome mate, thank you for watching 👍
hi dan brilliant comments there on the 09 and 111 wow what a find with that lead, i went out on a club dig on sunday guess what? liz 1st three pence 1573 (found mine with the manticore) great vid as per the norm geoff swansea
Hi Geoff, hope you are well mate 👍. Congratulations on you Elizabeth 1st 3 pence 👏, lovely coin.
Thank you for watching buddy 🙏
Have been wondering myself last few months whether it was 1.11 or 0 ground balance. To be fair, I felt like I was smashing it a year ago and felt so comfortable and confident with the machine. I am going to go back to ground balancing for the next few digs and then decide. I'm in Lincolnshire and still not sure whether to ground balance or not. I don't dig anything deep.
Ground balancing should improve depth if the ground is mineralised 👍. It says in the manual that the machine doesn't need to be ground balanced unless you have mineralised soil, and also dilek mentioned at one point, that her engineer doesn't ground balance when testing and using the machine 👍.
The question it, do you have mineralised soil?
Thank you for watching
Sometimes Dan. I'll figure it out. Keep up the excellent work. 😊
Love the gaming piece great find and you got a hammered 🤩 got to love a hammered coin
Me too, it's a great little item 👌, love artifacts like that, and I don't get much lead items 🙌.
Thank you for watching 😁
Love your finds. I am using 1,09. Love the Legend.
Thank you 😊. It's a great machine, you can't go wrong with the Legend 👌
Hi Dan I'm not sure but I think I might have been scammed 😊
Message said I have won your competition but it was a Message so not really sure..
It will have been a scammer mate, please just ignore messages like that, especially if they give a phone number to text etc. Please do not contact them
@Digger Dan Metal Detecting cheers Dan , I thought so, but also thought wow I've won 🤣😅🤣😅🤣
Thanks for this video Dan 🙂Since updating to V1.11 i have not had many deep signals 🤔Think i am going to try V1.09 on my hoard site that i have detected a million times. If it finds any signals there i will be sticking with V1.09. Great video as always, love that gaming piece 😍xx
Well I've seen the results from your test kirsty, and it amazing what a difference it makes. Feels like a much more stable and reliable machine on 1.09.
Glad it worked for you too 😊. Thank you for watching ❤
What did your hoard contain ?😊
Can you explain me how to roll back to 1.09? I can only find the last update 1.11 on the homepage from Nokta... Greetings from Germany, many thanks
All the updates are included in the update tool. Download it, follow the instructions, and when you get to the drop down menu that says 1.11, just select 1.09 👍😁
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Oh I didn't know that, thanks for your help..👍
@Gürcan you're welcome mate 👍
Crazy cool gaming piece! I'm surprised the hour meter doesn't get mentioned on the Legend more often? Thinking they have been out a little less than a year now. I know my meter is showing just under 16 days. Anyway curious as to what yours might be showing? Thanks for all the helpful information. Great video as always!!!
Thank you mate 👍. I think mine is on around 23 days, but this is my third unit, as the speakers went on the first two. So could probably add a couple of days worth to that.
Thanks for watching buddy 👍
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting Very interesting! The speaker went out on my first one as well. I had a group hunt coming up with Nugget Noggin in South Carolina when I sent mine off for repairs. Because I liked the legend so much I ordered two more because I didn't want to be without one. It appears the speaker problems have been addressed. Thank you for sharing. Keep the videos coming please.
Dan, can't find the V9 software update anywhere on the Nokta site. Not sure we can revert back? What link did you use please
If you already have the latest update tool, then you already have the 1.09 update. All you have to do is open the tool, follow the instructions and the select 1.09 from the drop down menu where it says 1.11 👍. Hope that helps mate
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting thanks buddy
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting malesef öyle değil son sürümle bütün sürümlere sahip olmuyorsun 1.11 yükleyip cihazınızı köreltmeyin 1.09 en iyisi sadece hassasiyeti kısarak 1.11 gibi kullanabilirsin çok iyi bir sürüm gelmedikçe 1.09 benim için kral
1.11 den nefret ediyorum sadece gezmek için ormana giden emeklilere göre birşeyler bulmaz
I’ve been using 1:11 since it came out I haven’t noticed any depth differences since the update. I detect on ploughed ground and pasture wet or dry. It’s difficult to prove a difference one way or another as the targets and ground vary so much. Personally I’ll be sticking with 1:11
1.11 seems to work for some, and not for others. I noticed a huge improvement instantly after reverting back and I had a feeling for a long while that something was not right.
Glad it's working fine for you mate 👍. Thank you for watching
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting was out today 2nd time with the LG30 coil over rough ground (pheasant cover) lots or iron and pulled 7 small Romans 2 at least 8 inches deep. Keep up the good work always enjoy your content. 👍
Oh no Dan now you need to go back over your previously detected land to see if there are more targets missed ! Great bit of info
Im so close to deciding to go legend next thanks to you
I'm going to make my way around all of those fields when the crops are off again. Got to be more to find with that extra depth 👍.
You wouldn't regret buying a legend mate, money very well spent. It's as good as they get, and you could spend a lot more and get less 👌
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting
Thankyou Dan
My other half has just won a simplex!!!
On the big metal detecting podcast!!
And she found her first gold on tuesday
( durotriges tribe celtic 1/4 stater) followed by a lizzie penny!!!
We are going to do the lottery this weekend!! 🤣😂
Happy hunting dude
Thanks for all you do Dan
Top guy
Awesome finds great videos as always
Thank you very much mate 👍
Hi Dan, this is some very useful info, now that me and Julie both have a Legend, we are in the perfect position to compare the two versions, I'll revert to 1.09 and we'll do live comparisons in the field, we gave up the other day on a trashy field, soul destroying mate. at least you had your Roman grot and a few coins of that field. switch fields and a lovely lead gaming peice, Hammered, nice one my friend. ATB Bill and Julie 👍😊❤
keep us up to date Bill ..
@@davesherriff I've changed mine back to v1.09, left Julies on v1.11. All the rest of the settings between the two are identicle. did an air test and the v1.09 is punchier and louder with a cartwheel penny at 6 inches, not only that the numbers were stable with v1.09 and a bit jumpy with v1.11. looking forward to a field test this weekend.
Hi Dan, I've been considering going back to 1.09 for a while. I haven't had any deep targets since I've updated. My friend who uses nox 600 was picking up signals and the Legend wasn't even picking them up. Went out with the Multi Kruzer at the weekend and pulled up a Roman, George 2nd and a Vicky bun head. Really needed that to boost the confidence. Definitely going to revert back to 1.09 until Nokta recognises there is an issue. Thanks for sharing buddy. Have a fantastic week 😊
@@somersetsearchers cant wait to see the outcome bill ,, good luck you two .
Great idea mate, kind of wished I had two machines on the day, to compare the two.
Look forward to seeing your results mate 👍
Nice finds the item that looks like domino is cool
Thank you very much mate, much appreciated 👍 😀
The lead game piece is fabulous! ❤Keep Diggin LL😊
Thank you 😊. If you haven't already recieved you prizes, I'm hoping you will soon. They were all sent out on the 1st June 😁
Thank you, Dan. I can’t wait to get that pin pointer. Mine is not working properly anymore. I can really use a new one. ❤️
Lots of nice finds coming up
Thank you very much mate 👍
Hey, Dan! Let’s get it! ❤
Hey 👋 keep on diggin 👌😁
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Thank you very much for watching 👍👍
@@DiggerDanMetalDetecting
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That's very interesting Dan, I've had my audio gain cranked right up and I was using creative headphones the ones which are low latency and I thought it was the headphones everything seams quiter and even maxed out the volume on the headphones. I'm on a group dig in Ilfracombe on sunday so I shall roll back also and see if it makes a difference. Are you going to email Nokta?
Would be interested to see what you think after rolling back mate 👍. I think nokta must have had hundreds of emails about the issue, so I won't email them. This video should get their attention though 😉