Thanks very much for that explanation on tone break with the legend. I was totally confused on what a tone break actually did, And how adjusting the tone break made the difference between finding gold and missing it.. but your video answered a lot of my questions! Love your videos! 👍
Amazing explanation 👏 . You got me into Metal Detecting 4 years ago, and i still, and always will check your reviews on detectors. Before i make a decision to buy one. Amazing, thank you Jeremy
All my years detecting I've come to understand that necklaces, rings and other gold jewelry will hit on different numbers on any machine depending how much gold it is. 10k, 14k, 18, 24, gold items will have alloys in them. It will not be pure gold. 14k only has 58% gold and the other part is 42% alloy. 18k is 75% gold and 25% alloy, to me it's one of those hit and miss deals!! It's like you said, it all depends on what settings you are running on that day. Good info video Jeremy, I'm still learning my Legend, and I do have all my profiles set up on different settings for each
My old Whites pulse inductor surf master with a 950 coil will find a small part of even a thin chain. Detectors don't see the chain as it's mass. They see each little link unless it's balled up when it hits a little better. So it's like seeing small pieces of slaw
Hello again Paystreak...quick question. In your opinion, is the Nokta legend an overall better detector than the multi anfibio ? I have owned the anfibio about a year now. Just wondering if I should upgrade
That little sniper coil should be a very nice edition to the legend.. The tight frequency wave of that small coil should get a good read on that fine jewelry near the surface...
Hi Jeremy, I’ve used the Simplex+ for years and had great success. I just got my Legend a couple of weeks ago. Upgraded to v1.09. I’m frozen out with deep snow until spring so I’m watching videos and playing with the settings so I can hit the ground running. What adjustments would you make to this video now that v1.09 has iron bias and stability settings for park and field modes? Love your videos ❤️
I have been using single frequencies and have been doing very very well. Single frequency does not have the iron filter or stability settings. If I am running multi, I set the iron filter at 1 and stability setting adjust to soil and keep tone break at 10 60 tone
Have you tried the hidden Stability setting for small gold items? Dilek has a video explaining that if you set it to 1, you can detect them. The more you turn it up, the more chance you will miss those small gold items. I wasn’t sure if the tone break settings you were explaining was the Stability setting.
No, tone break is not the stability settings, two different things! Go to your recovery icon and tap the pinpoint once and it takes you to your ST settings! I run mine anywhere between 3-5, whatever I can get away with when I'm on the beach as I don't like a chatty detector.
Jeremy, can you, or have you done this video with the newer smaller coils? If so, forgive me for asking, if not, could you update the test with newer coils.
Hey PSSF have you tried this test with pull tabs? im wondering if small jewelery will sound the same as pull tabs using tone frequency (not tone break), u have a video for that yet?
I do have some videos I made and uploaded to youtube a few weeks ago with small jewelry with Deus 1 and Deus 2 but have not posted them yet. I will post them very soon.
Have you ever tested Makro Racer1 and a small coil for gold chains? It picks chains like berries;) Too bad it was discontinued, Racer2 wasn't quite as good as the first model, even though Racer2 had more features. Luckily I haven't sold Racer1. Works like a dream. I also bought Legend, and I'm still learning it, luckily you have very good videos where I can get tips for it👍
pretty simple tone break makes small foil and small gold sound like iron unless you change the tone break,anytime anywhere your going to dig nails,birdshot,staples,tiny foil if you want to find gold,40kz should have no problem hitting it.With the vdi only going to 60 instead of 100 like the simplex you just have to know what numbers that small gold ids at and set your tones accordingly,its not an issue of the machines ability at all.It should smoke the simplex at 20kz much less 40kz because tbe simplex is 12kz.My 19kz gold bug hits gold better than silver.
@paystreaksuperfreak hey im really considering upgrading from a vanquish 440 to either the legend or equinox 700 I want water proof for the beach and I hate how my vanquish false on iron A LOT any tips
@@PaystreakSuperfreak great thanks the cost of the legend is crazy as well I can get the pro pack with the small and big coil for the same price as the nox 700. Seems like such great value. More expensive isn’t always “better” I guess lol
I would have liked that, while you are explaining stuff, the LEGEND it´s on silence or at a very low sensitivity (because all that noise does not let me put a lot of attention to what you are saying). Other than that: great video! Thankks!
No M2? That's the multi mode for lower conductors, I would think that would be the way to go. Or mono 40khz? You can see the position of the gold also matters. Horizontal and it doesn't like it, probably thinks it's a nail. That's where that lower iron bias setting will come in handy I suspect.
The problem is a chain acts like a coin spill. One coin(single chain link) sounds great, a pile of coins(multiple chain links) often sound like iron or bounce around like can slaw. The reason is the machines don't know what kind of metal is in the ground they only guess based on multiple factors that are then compared to known targets to give you a number and sound. Gold being a very low conductor and gold chains almost always having non uniform shapes are very hard to ID. That's why traditionally higher frequency was the only way to go but the talent in the field is improving and machines are getting better. I've been detecting for 12 years and NEVER found a real gold chain. Only silver or fakes which are made of higher conductive metals giving the machines a bit of help on identification. The only way to find those chains is literally clean every target out of your parks, playground and beaches. The larger beefy chains will hit on most machines but once you get to fine links you have get lucky and have a pendant on it, or a large clasp........otherwise you'll need to dig every piece of foil, every tiny bit of can slaw, every ketchup packet, every piece of wire .....you get the point.
Jeremy. calabash did a video on this detector that it wasn't up to par his name saids it all bash no machines are perfect as you say you must learn your machines he doesn't even own one but you do Jeremy thanks for sharing to us ....
I know right! He did a entire video on that gold necklace clip…lol. He has never had the Legend in his hands, but he sure likes to bash it. Anything negative about the Legend he is the first to point it out & tell everyone about it. You’d think he would want to test it out himself before making videos on it going off someone’s else’s test. He’s all about the views. I use like him & enjoyed watching his videos, but he’s getting way to far out there for me. Jeremy is the best in the business! Love his videos.
To both of you too Calabash is a better metal detectorist than either one of you and his knowledge is phenomenal I think it's funny when people like you go and run your mouth and you're a nobody
@@kody3377 and to make another point here both guys iffy signals and Jeremy were both the testers for Notka Macro kind of funny that both testers showed negative results with that machine not that they can't fix it and do an update that's not the point the point is is that they came out and bragging about how it was going to be dropping the mic on the equinox not 🤣😂🤣😂
I can't see what I said that you are replying to, but maybe it's about some gold item sounding off with an iron tone because of the tone breaks? It's really about how much junk you want to dig to find a small gold target. Nokta apparently has less tolerance for that than you, judging by their choice of defaults, although they did lower them a bit since then - just not as low as you.
You are so very helpful! An excellent teacher. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
You are so welcome!
Thanks very much for that explanation on tone break with the legend. I was totally confused on what a tone break actually did, And how adjusting the tone break made the difference between finding gold and missing it.. but your video answered a lot of my questions! Love your videos! 👍
Amazing explanation 👏 . You got me into Metal Detecting 4 years ago, and i still, and always will check your reviews on detectors. Before i make a decision to buy one. Amazing, thank you Jeremy
Awesome, thank you!
All my years detecting I've come to understand that necklaces, rings and other gold jewelry will hit on different numbers on any machine depending how much gold it is. 10k, 14k, 18, 24, gold items will have alloys in them. It will not be pure gold. 14k only has 58% gold and the other part is 42% alloy. 18k is 75% gold and 25% alloy, to me it's one of those hit and miss deals!! It's like you said, it all depends on what settings you are running on that day. Good info video Jeremy, I'm still learning my Legend, and I do have all my profiles set up on different settings for each
Awesome video. Thanks for your wisdom and work doing these.
Glad you like them!
Educating us all Paystreak! Thank you.
It's a super important tutorial, for those who like gold. Thank you very much!
Glad it was helpful!
I definitely appreciate your videos. I got my legend pro pack and learning this machine. I loved my simplex
Great to hear!
Very helpful information!! Can't wait for my Legend to arrive
Hope you enjoy it!
Oh hey man ! Thanks for putting out these vids too ! ✌
Glad you like them!
This is invaluable information,love the testing video's
Glad you like them!
Great information.
brill vid mate thanks.
Glad it helped
So I watched this, and went and played with the settings on mine, went to my fave spot and got an old gold zippo 😀😀
lol nicely played sir nicely played
wow Great and informative video
Many many thanks
Hey. Just a thought on the small gold chain. You can’t get to test properly. Turn your stability from 5 to 3.
My old Whites pulse inductor surf master with a 950 coil will find a small part of even a thin chain. Detectors don't see the chain as it's mass. They see each little link unless it's balled up when it hits a little better. So it's like seeing small pieces of slaw
Hello again Paystreak...quick question. In your opinion, is the Nokta legend an overall better detector than the multi anfibio ? I have owned the anfibio about a year now. Just wondering if I should upgrade
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I once found a gold chain and sounded like iron, but the detector told me that the target was large, I was bored so I dig.
Gold can sing in the iron range!!
That little sniper coil should be a very nice edition to the legend.. The tight frequency wave of that small coil should get a good read on that fine jewelry near the surface...
I'm hoping to have the pro-pack in a couple of weeks.
Wicked video Jeremy.. Can you test some of that crap Canadian clad for us folks north of you
Hi Jeremy, I’ve used the Simplex+ for years and had great success. I just got my Legend a couple of weeks ago. Upgraded to v1.09. I’m frozen out with deep snow until spring so I’m watching videos and playing with the settings so I can hit the ground running.
What adjustments would you make to this video now that v1.09 has iron bias and stability settings for park and field modes?
Love your videos ❤️
I have been using single frequencies and have been doing very very well. Single frequency does not have the iron filter or stability settings. If I am running multi, I set the iron filter at 1 and stability setting adjust to soil and keep tone break at 10 60 tone
That makes sense. I have so much to learn with the legend. can’t wait to get out and actually dig!!! Thanks again ❤️
Did all of your chains pass the magnet test? I have several that say 14k Italy and the magnet sucks them up.
If is is stamped Italy....most likely it is junk. These gold items are GOLD!!
Have you tried the hidden Stability setting for small gold items? Dilek has a video explaining that if you set it to 1, you can detect them. The more you turn it up, the more chance you will miss those small gold items. I wasn’t sure if the tone break settings you were explaining was the Stability setting.
Stability setting is only for beach mode.
No, tone break is not the stability settings, two different things! Go to your recovery icon and tap the pinpoint once and it takes you to your ST settings! I run mine anywhere between 3-5, whatever I can get away with when I'm on the beach as I don't like a chatty detector.
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I'm thinking a 10x7 coil would be killer for the Legend !!
Jeremy, can you, or have you done this video with the newer smaller coils? If so, forgive me for asking, if not, could you update the test with newer coils.
Hey PSSF have you tried this test with pull tabs? im wondering if small jewelery will sound the same as pull tabs using tone frequency (not tone break), u have a video for that yet?
I do have some videos I made and uploaded to youtube a few weeks ago with small jewelry with Deus 1 and Deus 2 but have not posted them yet. I will post them very soon.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak 👍
Have you ever tested Makro Racer1 and a small coil for gold chains? It picks chains like berries;)
Too bad it was discontinued, Racer2 wasn't quite as good as the first model, even though Racer2 had more features.
Luckily I haven't sold Racer1. Works like a dream. I also bought Legend, and I'm still learning it, luckily you have very good videos where I can get tips for it👍
Jim used a racer1 for at least a year and had 2 different racer2's. I did not like the overload tone. Jim found a few rings with his racers
What's the best setting for gold nuggets specifically without hitting on nails?
If you want gold nuggets....DIG THE NAILS AND LEAD!!
pretty simple tone break makes small foil and small gold sound like iron unless you change the tone break,anytime anywhere your going to dig nails,birdshot,staples,tiny foil if you want to find gold,40kz should have no problem hitting it.With the vdi only going to 60 instead of 100 like the simplex you just have to know what numbers that small gold ids at and set your tones accordingly,its not an issue of the machines ability at all.It should smoke the simplex at 20kz much less 40kz because tbe simplex is 12kz.My 19kz gold bug hits gold better than silver.
The Simplex smacks the crap out of that gold bracelet. But the Simplex high tone falses on nails much much more than the Legend.
So, Paystreak, Does the Legend pick up that 14k gold necklace in goldfield mode?
It will!. But Gold field is hypersensitive to small foil
@paystreaksuperfreak hey im really considering upgrading from a vanquish 440 to either the legend or equinox 700 I want water proof for the beach and I hate how my vanquish false on iron A LOT any tips
The Legend has proven itself over and over in the iron. I have not used the Vanquish much.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak great thanks the cost of the legend is crazy as well I can get the pro pack with the small and big coil for the same price as the nox 700. Seems like such great value. More expensive isn’t always “better” I guess lol
I would have liked that, while you are explaining stuff, the LEGEND it´s on silence or at a very low sensitivity (because all that noise does not let me put a lot of attention to what you are saying). Other than that: great video! Thankks!
Noted!
what about the chunky chain
Have you tested that problem chain with a rare earth magnet?
It is 14k!! Not iron.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I'm a gold buyer and you'd be surprised how many stamped pieces have iron. I test everything on my spectrometer.
No M2? That's the multi mode for lower conductors, I would think that would be the way to go. Or mono 40khz? You can see the position of the gold also matters. Horizontal and it doesn't like it, probably thinks it's a nail. That's where that lower iron bias setting will come in handy I suspect.
It is the tone break!!
I set from 10 to 25 a high tone so I don't miss gold
Thought you said 60 tone was the way to go with the legend?
Walter has been using pitch tones with great success lately. Whatever works best for each user. I prefer 60 tone for totlots.
i wish you showed it in 60 tones
Hi Jeremy, the last couple of vids your voice not syncing with video.
I’m shocked that the legend have a problem with two last gold chains, they are not so small, not so thin.
The problem is a chain acts like a coin spill. One coin(single chain link) sounds great, a pile of coins(multiple chain links) often sound like iron or bounce around like can slaw. The reason is the machines don't know what kind of metal is in the ground they only guess based on multiple factors that are then compared to known targets to give you a number and sound. Gold being a very low conductor and gold chains almost always having non uniform shapes are very hard to ID. That's why traditionally higher frequency was the only way to go but the talent in the field is improving and machines are getting better. I've been detecting for 12 years and NEVER found a real gold chain. Only silver or fakes which are made of higher conductive metals giving the machines a bit of help on identification. The only way to find those chains is literally clean every target out of your parks, playground and beaches. The larger beefy chains will hit on most machines but once you get to fine links you have get lucky and have a pendant on it, or a large clasp........otherwise you'll need to dig every piece of foil, every tiny bit of can slaw, every ketchup packet, every piece of wire .....you get the point.
@@MrBottlecapBill thank You for Your answer, now I understand how it work, shape and size of gold is very important. Best wishes.
you didnt touch on the Gold option in main menu and try park mode against Gold mode
Jeremy. calabash did a video on this detector that it wasn't up to par his name saids it all bash no machines are perfect as you say you must learn your machines he doesn't even own one but you do Jeremy thanks for sharing to us ....
I know right! He did a entire video on that gold necklace clip…lol.
He has never had the Legend in his hands, but he sure likes to bash it. Anything negative about the Legend he is the first to point it out & tell everyone about it. You’d think he would want to test it out himself before making videos on it going off someone’s else’s test.
He’s all about the views.
I use like him & enjoyed watching his videos, but he’s getting way to far out there for me.
Jeremy is the best in the business! Love his videos.
To both of you too Calabash is a better metal detectorist than either one of you and his knowledge is phenomenal I think it's funny when people like you go and run your mouth and you're a nobody
@@kody3377 I agree 👍
Thanks my friend ❤️
@@kody3377 and to make another point here both guys iffy signals and Jeremy were both the testers for Notka Macro kind of funny that both testers showed negative results with that machine not that they can't fix it and do an update that's not the point the point is is that they came out and bragging about how it was going to be dropping the mic on the equinox not 🤣😂🤣😂
Did you get that legend for free ?
You honestly think Jeremy is gonna give you that answer Plugs? 😛
@@rippnraptor540 well I had to ask . Lol .
@@rippnraptor540 talk less and listen more
@@plugsfordays648 answer in the legend unboxing video.
I found some of those chains with my mx7 lol
Ok......your targets are too close.
The simplex hit that gold chain and all you did was turn it on!
It's all about how it was already set up, though.
I can't see what I said that you are replying to, but maybe it's about some gold item sounding off with an iron tone because of the tone breaks? It's really about how much junk you want to dig to find a small gold target. Nokta apparently has less tolerance for that than you, judging by their choice of defaults, although they did lower them a bit since then - just not as low as you.