I have watched this several times now. This is the best explanation I’ve seen. I watched several other videos on 2 rail kicks and even though they were trying to explain the same concept, they just weren’t articulated very clearly. You have a talent for making complex mechanics easy to understand.
Good evening Chris. I have looked at some very “high profile” channels for Plus2 instruction videos. Probably a dozen in all, and I have to say yours is by far the best! Your instruction is, without a doubt, the most comprehensive and easiest to understand. I want to thank you for your efforts in producing these videos. Great stuff Sir!
great job explaining and demonstrating the affect of slight variations in english. shows how important it is to practice and perfect that part of the game.
This was probably the best video I've seen for this system. That being said, I think the first example, more specifically the wording of the first example complicates things. Instead of saying "the cue ball is 4 diamonds away," simply by counting the diamonds, it's help by starting out with using the term "diamond target line." I think there is value in showing the first example but starting with it can easily confuse people newer to kicking systems.
He clears that up though and think it is intentional. That was the mistake I was doing. Now I understand I do agree with you about not starting that way.
Oh. My. Goooooosh!! You just made made game 10 times better. I will call you sensei now. Thank you so much Chris. I’m watching your videos as I’m banking away these shots I never thought I would be able to calculate. Thank you!!!!
Perfect timing Lil’ Chris. Just yesterday, I was discussing two rail kicks with a fellow league player friend. I had been visualizing these kicks but knew I’d better become more accurate with them. In showing my friend how I use visualization only, we both felt it would be better to search TH-cam for a more accurate/strong “two rail aiming system”. Fast forward to today and BAM…you answered our search before either of us even tried. I really like what you’re showing us in your video LC and have shared it with my friend, I can’t wait to begin nailing down this powerful system on my own table. Thanks for thoroughly describing and posting on this subject…👍🏻💪🏻😊
this is by far the best video you have made. I really appreciated both sides of the table and how you showed the numbering system for each side. Trying to do that in my head on on the table on the "other side" of the table, was really difficult for me. Thank you!
Thank you. Excellent explanation. This tutorial was on the Diamond table which is 4’ x 8’. Our pool hall has 24 tables that are 41/2’ x 9’ - everything changes! It took me a bit to recalibrate but after a while (and lots of frustration) I think I’ve finally got it. Thanks again 👍
This is incredible. I've been told this so many different ways and I practice and get flustered cuz I'm not doing it right. This makes so much sense! Thanks 🙏👍❤
That was great! I was always good at kicking just using mirror system but takes time to become confident with. This way is pure logic and instant. Would have loved to know this 30 years ago. I never used the spots except to halve a bankshot. Very cool!
It’s pretty kool how The Plus System and The Plus 2 System is taught differently but similar with the same results. Nice way to teach it a different way bro 💪🏽great job.
Thanks brotha! It's always good to see different ways the same thing can be explained and hopefully reach more people. Here's Corner 4 Billiards version: th-cam.com/video/y6I178aTk48/w-d-xo.html
thank you Chris I show my girlfriend your kicking system shots and she making them. best system for all player's very well explained . very good job sir
Great instructional video on the +2 Chris. Very thorough and clear. I have watched several on this system and believe this to be one of the best, if not the best! Great job!! Thanks
I’ve seen at least 5 Plus 2 Systems described, starting with Dr. Cue’s wonderful kicking video. Yours is the most clear,, especially the way you describe the sight lines with the CB out from the rail. Anthony Beeler’s Spot on the Wall does the same thing and I’ll compare the two in the next few days. Thanks again, Utah Bob
See my earlier post. For CBs that are away from the rail, I compared your “track” method to Anthony Peeler’s “spot on the wall” method. I found no difference in the results. Since I have used the Plus 2 method for years and the numbering system is 2nd nature, I’ll stay with your method. Again, as many of the comments say, your explanation is simple, easy to understand and use.
THANK YOU CHRIS. I was having trouble using this system, but you cleared it up by showing the track lines. You have other teachers by the pool balls. 🎱
Good video as usual. Around 14:30 one sidenote to add is that table models and conditions often dictate how much adjustment you actually need. In my experience, 7' Diamond tables are often slightly "off system" compared to, for example, 7' Valley tables. Kicks often run shorter on Diamond tables than most tables. (as high as 1 diamond!) So, one could either adjust the target on the rail or, as you mentioned, adjust the spin.
I've seen multiple videos about this system and can assure you, this is the best one so far. You covered all points of the system and well explained. 👏 Thanks Chris for a great video! 👍 I have used the system before and you helped me understand why sometimes worked and others didn't. Great job!
I use my different numbers for the short rail when shooting a two rail kick. The corner is 0 and the first diamond is 4 with 2 & 3 falling in between and spaced evenly. I use no side spin. This allows me to adapt the system for 2 rail banks as well as kicks.
PHENOMENAL ... very helpful and exstreamily easy to understand. Even so, I have to admit watching severl times Ty ... ty ... ty ... finally it all make sense. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
this is a good video. very informative. however, I use the two rail "spot on the wall". I go to the right side of the table and sight a line from the third diamond to the diamond to the left of center on the head rail, your #3 spot. I find my "spot" in the distance and shoot to the "spot" using the same running english and pocket speed. It's very effective and deadly.
Thank You 😉 Years ago i saw a Daffy Duck cartoon on using diamonds to calculate how to hit a ball to pocket it. I have been looking for the system since, as i do not remember the details. 😊
It does crack me up how you do a frozen stare at the ball after you make it. 😂. I’d be jumping up and down celebrating. I can’t believe you don’t even smile or go “damn I’m good” after you do it. Can you please do a TH-cam short and do a sick shot and then say “daaaaamn. I’m just too good.” 😂😂😂
Best explanation. I love the editing magic you do to shift the numbers too. But as long as you're using magic, you don't need to make such grand gestures with so much effort and swing like that lol. You didn't look convinced by your own actions, and you look like you didn't feel like putting all the effort into waving as far as you did. So just tone it back a bit and use easier motions.
Love the cue swipe to change the numbers :). Most always, 2 rail kick systems are demonstrated with the Cue Ball (CB) positioned fairly close to a long rail and the Object Ball (OB) positioned at either a corner pocket or frozen to a rail, perhaps a diamond or two adjacent to that corner pocket (with appropriate adjustments). I'd love to see what adjustments (cue ball contact/speed/aim or track line) you'd consider if say, the CB is at 2,6 at one end (foot rail end) and the OB is at 2,3 at the other end (head rail end). I think both tracks should be well within the limits of the system. .
Chris, after watching this vid and a few others from other billiards channels, it seems to me that one thing the billiards community needs is a means by which to quantify the striking force required for any given shot. Such a tool would allow players to compare play on one table from another and would be very helpful in making this and any other shooting sytem repeatable on different tables.With regards to shot making, how hard is hard and how soft is a soft varies from player to player and table to table, such a quantifiable measurement would allow players and coachs to communicate for more effectivly than they currently can. Billiards needs its own version of scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7.
One way my coach used to quantify the force was in terms of the force needed for the cueball to travel from one short rail to the other and back and have it stop just at the rail (so basically like a lag shot, i.e. the ball travels two table lengths). As a beginner, I was surprised at how little force is actually needed for that. It's very easy to overshoot and have the ball bounce of the second rail pretty far. He told me that most beginners strike way too hard. Once you get used to the "lag force" as your "standard shot" you can basically describe shots like "half force" or "one and a half force" which would be the cueball traveling one table length or three table lengths respectively. The issue with this though is that it depends on the table (felt/size) and the weight of your cue, so basically you have to practice that shot a lot and get used to it. You can't really explain to a beginner how much force is needed. I'm not sure if others use this system, but it helped me during my training sessions, as my coach would say stuff like "that's a half force shot", so I had the basic idea already.
Nicely done. I had to watch a few times to verify you’re aiming at the diamond and not a rail position in front of the diamond. With that clarification this 2-rail system is a kick.
Newly subscribed, but I have watched a few of your instructional videos. This is definitely the best I've seen, maybe because you explain everything in a way a simpleton like myself can understand. Thanks lil Chris
Hot tip: You have to watch through the whole video to understand the system. What he says about "Four diamonds away from the cue ball" in the beginning isn't what it sounds like, and he explains that further at around 6:00 . Speed and spin are also important - you have to watch the entire video to "get it."
Finally a good explanation! Thank you 💪💪 one question. When the ball I want to hit is not in the rail, but in the middle of the table, how do I decide from which diamond to start the count? Is it the first one after the 90 degree projection to the long rail and playing with the spin?
I love this shot. Even getting close is respectable (I need more spin and a firmer hit). One question, though. I understand the second short rail is half a diamond because mirroring the long rail the cue ball should head for the first "ghost" diamond below the corner pocket. That is five diamonds from the cue ball (4 along the long rail and the mirror diamond below the corner). But, when you stroke the cue ball toward the 5th (middle) diamond on the first short rail, the cue ball moved toward the first diamond (two half diamonds) from the corner. Not the half diamond which is five diamonds from the cue ball. The half diamond on the second short rail is the track from one to the opposite corner. So, you add one diamond to your cue ball position from the corner. Never mind, I think I see it. The 8 ball is actually two half diamonds from the corner along a track to the second "ghost" diamond. But, that's six diamonds from the cue ball position along the mirror long rail. Do you count the second short rail as whole diamonds? I never have much lock shooting at the second short rail. Thanks.
Okay, watching again, you are shooting from the track line along third diamond to five on the first short rail, not from the side pocket as it appears. So, yes, you are five diamonds from the second "ghost" diamond (target) below the corner, and the cue ball will hit the first whole diamond on the second short rail. So, we count half diamonds along the second short rail. Makes sense. Two half diamonds on the short rail is two whole diamonds along the mirror long rail. Then three diamonds up the long rail is five.
Best explanation I've seen yet. First one I've run across that explains the need to understand track lines rather than just the diamonds.
I’ve never seen this system taught better. You are truly great for the game.
I have watched this several times now. This is the best explanation I’ve seen. I watched several other videos on 2 rail kicks and even though they were trying to explain the same concept, they just weren’t articulated very clearly. You have a talent for making complex mechanics easy to understand.
Good evening Chris. I have looked at some very “high profile” channels for Plus2 instruction videos. Probably a dozen in all, and I have to say yours is by far the best! Your instruction is, without a doubt, the most comprehensive and easiest to understand. I want to thank you for your efforts in producing these videos. Great stuff Sir!
Great job! Tried it on my table and it works. Glad I found Lil' Chris.
You did the best explanation of this system I’ve seen. Thanks for all your help.
great job explaining and demonstrating the affect of slight variations in english. shows how important it is to practice and perfect that part of the game.
This was probably the best video I've seen for this system. That being said, I think the first example, more specifically the wording of the first example complicates things. Instead of saying "the cue ball is 4 diamonds away," simply by counting the diamonds, it's help by starting out with using the term "diamond target line." I think there is value in showing the first example but starting with it can easily confuse people newer to kicking systems.
He clears that up though and think it is intentional. That was the mistake I was doing. Now I understand I do agree with you about not starting that way.
I’ve seen an explanation of this system before, but this is by far the best explanation I have seen. Thank you Chris.
Oh. My. Goooooosh!! You just made made game 10 times better. I will call you sensei now. Thank you so much Chris. I’m watching your videos as I’m banking away these shots I never thought I would be able to calculate. Thank you!!!!
Perfect timing Lil’ Chris. Just yesterday, I was discussing two rail kicks with a fellow league player friend. I had been visualizing these kicks but knew I’d better become more accurate with them.
In showing my friend how I use visualization only, we both felt it would be better to search TH-cam for a more accurate/strong “two rail aiming system”.
Fast forward to today and BAM…you answered our search before either of us even tried.
I really like what you’re showing us in your video LC and have shared it with my friend, I can’t wait to begin nailing down this powerful system on my own table.
Thanks for thoroughly describing and posting on this subject…👍🏻💪🏻😊
Great help for me and others. Thank you
one one the best 2 rail kick explanations I ve seen on TH-cam. Thanks for being so clear and descriptive.
this is by far the best video you have made. I really appreciated both sides of the table and how you showed the numbering system for each side. Trying to do that in my head on on the table on the "other side" of the table, was really difficult for me. Thank you!
Finally a video I can easily understand on this topic. Can’t wait to go to the pool hall and try this out
Thank you for explaining so clearly. I have seen similar systems but never so well explained. Thank you again.
this system is brilliant and very well explained. congratulations. nice to see that my attention in your content is time well spent
Thanks for this video. One of the best I've seen. Very clear and more in depth than others. Appreciate your teaching style.
You're very welcome!
Thank you. Excellent explanation. This tutorial was on the Diamond table which is 4’ x 8’. Our pool hall has 24 tables that are 41/2’ x 9’ - everything changes! It took me a bit to recalibrate but after a while (and lots of frustration) I think I’ve finally got it. Thanks again 👍
This is incredible. I've been told this so many different ways and I practice and get flustered cuz I'm not doing it right. This makes so much sense! Thanks 🙏👍❤
You have a great ability to make complicated systems simple!
You're fantastic, brother. I just love your approach on teaching and playing. Kudos!
That was great! I was always good at kicking just using mirror system but takes time to become confident with. This way is pure logic and instant. Would have loved to know this 30 years ago. I never used the spots except to halve a bankshot. Very cool!
It’s pretty kool how The Plus System and The Plus 2 System is taught differently but similar with the same results. Nice way to teach it a different way bro 💪🏽great job.
Thanks brotha! It's always good to see different ways the same thing can be explained and hopefully reach more people.
Here's Corner 4 Billiards version:
th-cam.com/video/y6I178aTk48/w-d-xo.html
Outstanding video. This is the clearest, most accessible teaching of a Diamond system that I've ever seen, and I've watched a ton of them. Thank you.
thank you Chris I show my girlfriend your kicking system shots and she making them. best system for all player's very well explained . very good job sir
What about you though lol
Awesome stuff!! It's pretty much like a science project. 😂 Thanks for sharing this!
Thank you so much for the Super Thanks! 🙏
The right amount of side spin is '1000's of shots in the memory bank', the great thing about this is limiting the variables to just speed and spin.
Excellent, Chris. Best explanation of this system I've seen. Thanks
Great instructional video on the +2 Chris. Very thorough and clear. I have watched several on this system and believe this to be one of the best, if not the best! Great job!! Thanks
Awesome, thank you Ron! 💪
Same here. I watched several videos on this subject and this one is the best. I liked how he showed the track lines.
I love the way you explained it so I could understand it.
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Brilliantly exlained. Must get on the pool table right away while it's fresh in my mind
You explained it really clear. One of the best pool lessons on TH-cam... Thank you for sharing...
I’ve seen at least 5 Plus 2 Systems described, starting with Dr. Cue’s wonderful kicking video. Yours is the most clear,, especially the way you describe the sight lines with the CB out from the rail. Anthony Beeler’s Spot on the Wall does the same thing and I’ll compare the two in the next few days. Thanks again, Utah Bob
See my earlier post. For CBs that are away from the rail, I compared your “track” method to Anthony Peeler’s “spot on the wall” method. I found no difference in the results. Since I have used the Plus 2 method for years and the numbering system is 2nd nature, I’ll stay with your method. Again, as many of the comments say, your explanation is simple, easy to understand and use.
Wow this is so clear and easy to remember and understand. I hope you can also demostrate if you are going to hit the long rail first.
Thank you for the one through seven Bank real shots, I've did a bank shoot what you have did it work for me.
Wow, such an awesome system. Thank you Lil Chris.
Very well explained, young man. Thanks for what you are doing.
THANK YOU CHRIS. I was having trouble using this system, but you cleared it up by showing the track lines. You have other teachers by the pool balls. 🎱
This was an excellent lesson, superior delivery
Great video chris. Made it super simple to understand. I appreciate the content and your dedication to this game. Cheers mate
This is the most comprehensive video on the subject. Much appreciated 👍😎👍. Thank you 😊 cheers
I'm Starting To Master This Drill And Your Classic Break!!!! Your The Man Lil Chris!!!!
Perfect
A good refresher course on things i learned 40 years ago but forgot the actual math of it
Thanks
Good video as usual. Around 14:30 one sidenote to add is that table models and conditions often dictate how much adjustment you actually need. In my experience, 7' Diamond tables are often slightly "off system" compared to, for example, 7' Valley tables. Kicks often run shorter on Diamond tables than most tables. (as high as 1 diamond!)
So, one could either adjust the target on the rail or, as you mentioned, adjust the spin.
Very nice explanation on how to use the system well done Chris
That's the best video I've seen for two rail bank shots! Thank you!!
Great lesson.. you are a natural teacher..
I've seen multiple videos about this system and can assure you, this is the best one so far. You covered all points of the system and well explained. 👏 Thanks Chris for a great video! 👍 I have used the system before and you helped me understand why sometimes worked and others didn't. Great job!
I use my different numbers for the short rail when shooting a two rail kick. The corner is 0 and the first diamond is 4 with 2 & 3 falling in between and spaced evenly. I use no side spin. This allows me to adapt the system for 2 rail banks as well as kicks.
Great video brother. Best 2 rail kicking system on you tube and best explanation.
Thanks Chris, great video.your videos are helping me with my game.
AWESOME video. Thank you for explaining it in a variety of ways.
Thank you Chris! I just got into pool a few months ago. I’m having too much fun. 😅
Awesome work. I watched this system before and the way you explained it made it very understandable.
Excellent demonstration, lots of time spent
Great break down on the 2 rail system
This system is very useful. Got me out of a lot of trouble in one pocket games.
Really understand the system and technique you're really a good teacher
PHENOMENAL ... very helpful and exstreamily easy to understand. Even so, I have to admit watching severl times
Ty ... ty ... ty ... finally it all make sense.
👍👍👍👍👍👍
this is a good video. very informative. however, I use the two rail "spot on the wall". I go to the right side of the table and sight a line from the third diamond to the diamond to the left of center on the head rail, your #3 spot. I find my "spot" in the distance and shoot to the "spot" using the same running english and pocket speed. It's very effective and deadly.
Great video. Best explanation I seen of the system.
Thanks! Great ideas bubbling around in my head to try now!
dude literally acts like Coursera! Thank you so much!
Thank You 😉
Years ago i saw a Daffy Duck cartoon on using diamonds to calculate how to hit a ball to pocket it. I have been looking for the system since, as i do not remember the details. 😊
You really explain things very easy to understand
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It does crack me up how you do a frozen stare at the ball after you make it. 😂. I’d be jumping up and down celebrating. I can’t believe you don’t even smile or go “damn I’m good” after you do it. Can you please do a TH-cam short and do a sick shot and then say “daaaaamn. I’m just too good.” 😂😂😂
very well explained. Easily understandable.
The best I've seen this explained
great demonstration Chris!
Awesome system and explanation.
This video deserves 1m views 🙏 thanks
Just found your channel. Love it!!!
I like your videos bud. I am working on getting a table.
Thanks Lil Chris!!! Very well explained!
Instructor of the year"lil chris"
Thank you Chris!! Great examples and what ifs..
Thanks!
You’re welcome!
And THANK YOU for the Super Thanks!!! 🙏
Thank you for this awesome lesson. 👍
Good job explaining this system!
Thanks for the video it’s helped me better my kicking
This is way easier than the way I do it. Smart system
Best explanation. I love the editing magic you do to shift the numbers too. But as long as you're using magic, you don't need to make such grand gestures with so much effort and swing like that lol. You didn't look convinced by your own actions, and you look like you didn't feel like putting all the effort into waving as far as you did. So just tone it back a bit and use easier motions.
Fantastic teaching
Love the cue swipe to change the numbers :). Most always, 2 rail kick systems are demonstrated with the Cue Ball (CB) positioned fairly close to a long rail and the Object Ball (OB) positioned at either a corner pocket or frozen to a rail, perhaps a diamond or two adjacent to that corner pocket (with appropriate adjustments).
I'd love to see what adjustments (cue ball contact/speed/aim or track line) you'd consider if say, the CB is at 2,6 at one end (foot rail end) and the OB is at 2,3 at the other end (head rail end). I think both tracks should be well within the limits of the system.
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Chris, after watching this vid and a few others from other billiards channels, it seems to me that one thing the billiards community needs is a means by which to quantify the striking force required for any given shot. Such a tool would allow players to compare play on one table from another and would be very helpful in making this and any other shooting sytem repeatable on different tables.With regards to shot making, how hard is hard and how soft is a soft varies from player to player and table to table, such a quantifiable measurement would allow players and coachs to communicate for more effectivly than they currently can. Billiards needs its own version of scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7.
One way my coach used to quantify the force was in terms of the force needed for the cueball to travel from one short rail to the other and back and have it stop just at the rail (so basically like a lag shot, i.e. the ball travels two table lengths). As a beginner, I was surprised at how little force is actually needed for that. It's very easy to overshoot and have the ball bounce of the second rail pretty far. He told me that most beginners strike way too hard. Once you get used to the "lag force" as your "standard shot" you can basically describe shots like "half force" or "one and a half force" which would be the cueball traveling one table length or three table lengths respectively.
The issue with this though is that it depends on the table (felt/size) and the weight of your cue, so basically you have to practice that shot a lot and get used to it. You can't really explain to a beginner how much force is needed. I'm not sure if others use this system, but it helped me during my training sessions, as my coach would say stuff like "that's a half force shot", so I had the basic idea already.
I believe Dr. Cue has a video on what quantifies such a shot, as well as what quantifies "one tip of running English."
Nicely done. I had to watch a few times to verify you’re aiming at the diamond and not a rail position in front of the diamond. With that clarification this 2-rail system is a kick.
I love the fact that u look like mac from always sunny in Philly
Newly subscribed, but I have watched a few of your instructional videos. This is definitely the best I've seen, maybe because you explain everything in a way a simpleton like myself can understand. Thanks lil Chris
Hot tip: You have to watch through the whole video to understand the system. What he says about "Four diamonds away from the cue ball" in the beginning isn't what it sounds like, and he explains that further at around 6:00 . Speed and spin are also important - you have to watch the entire video to "get it."
This is awesome. Thank you!
Thanks for the lesson, very professional.
Tks you for your useful techniques
High quality content.
Dude …this is awesome
Great information!
Thanks Lonnie!
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Finally a good explanation! Thank you 💪💪 one question. When the ball I want to hit is not in the rail, but in the middle of the table, how do I decide from which diamond to start the count? Is it the first one after the 90 degree projection to the long rail and playing with the spin?
Very nice techniques
I saved this video long time back. But only now, with more experience I can remember the formula 😂
I love this shot. Even getting close is respectable (I need more spin and a firmer hit). One question, though. I understand the second short rail is half a diamond because mirroring the long rail the cue ball should head for the first "ghost" diamond below the corner pocket. That is five diamonds from the cue ball (4 along the long rail and the mirror diamond below the corner). But, when you stroke the cue ball toward the 5th (middle) diamond on the first short rail, the cue ball moved toward the first diamond (two half diamonds) from the corner. Not the half diamond which is five diamonds from the cue ball. The half diamond on the second short rail is the track from one to the opposite corner. So, you add one diamond to your cue ball position from the corner. Never mind, I think I see it. The 8 ball is actually two half diamonds from the corner along a track to the second "ghost" diamond. But, that's six diamonds from the cue ball position along the mirror long rail. Do you count the second short rail as whole diamonds? I never have much lock shooting at the second short rail. Thanks.
Okay, watching again, you are shooting from the track line along third diamond to five on the first short rail, not from the side pocket as it appears. So, yes, you are five diamonds from the second "ghost" diamond (target) below the corner, and the cue ball will hit the first whole diamond on the second short rail. So, we count half diamonds along the second short rail. Makes sense. Two half diamonds on the short rail is two whole diamonds along the mirror long rail. Then three diamonds up the long rail is five.