Great video Bob! This is the type of content pool players looking to improve need to watch. No "Supercharge your game" or "Must have shots" videos. But rather solid, repeatable fundamentals with the goal of delivering a straight stroke. This is where advancement occurs. I work on my stroke everyday. Even on my best days. Little bad habits can easily creep back in slowly without notice so it's important to incorporate straight stroke drills as part of a daily practice routine, even if only for a few minutes. Ideally at the beginning and end of a training session. Great job!!
Right?! There's so many ways to miss a shot in this game. People ask me how it works because I look comfy 9/10 shots but it's that one shot that I focus on. Edit: I'm middle of the pack as far as actual pool players go(which I think is pretty amazing). When I'm on I'm on, but I'm prone to miss position and overthink most of the time. This is when an actual good player will beat me.
I’m the same way… I’ve been criticized for overthinking my shots for many years! And for me there’s also the psychological factor that if I feel the other player is better than me, I tend to lose.
This is the best alignment video I’ve seen. I actually felt the difference in seeing the ball and positioning my hip, elbow, shoulder and cue stick. It is easily repeatable and identifies improper alignment immediately. Thanks.
I have to Thank You! I was a 100 ball runner back in the early 90s. Life took over and I gave up the game for many years. I tried hard to get my game back about 15 years later but couldn’t. I had this weird problem where i wasn’t hitting what i was aiming at even after 100s of hours of practice. Your video caused me to video tape myself but it also reminded me of something I worked on everyday when i was a better player. i would work on my pendulum stroke and finishing a straight grip at a certain point in my shoulder. Somewhere along the line I developed this funky sideways elbow drop during my transition. Even when my elbow felt quiet, video rec told me it was still active. I’m now consistently hitting my aim point. Thank you 🙏 so much for giving back. Sincerely, Jack
Funny how that works! I'm actively perfecting my stroke at the moment and I'm finally starting to feel when my fundamentals are off. Certain shots I can't miss, and certain shots I know I'll miss because I'm not comfortable. I dunno how often the tension in my lead shoulder will affect straight pool or one pocket, but I sure feel it in 9 and 8 ball close to the rail.
I think I know what is meant by “tip left“. Lately when the object ball is near the rail and it’s a long run, I always seem to overcut the shot and miss the pocket by about an inch. Your video will help me rethink my mechanics to hopefully correct this, thanks!
This is another great video! Most amateur pool players don't realize how important thier aligmnet is when it comes to consistency. Thank you for this information.
I’m pretty new to playing pool and I don’t understand why such simple videos like this one are so hard to find. Just simple fundamentals made me subscribe and turn notifications on. Thanks!
Great Information I played a lot of pool twenty five years ago and now That I am retired. I can't even run 3 balls. In a row. This video has reinforced. What I need to start working on. After all these years being away from the game
My father told me when I was young that the straight stroke was the most important part of the game then, where you leave the ball. He still had a perfect straight stroke one hand behind the back. He was the best pool player, I've ever met personally, and I've met a few. RIP DAD. 😇 Best video I ever saw on fundamentals in a straight stroke. The underhanded throw to a toddler, and emulating an archer comparisons, were genius, light bulb moments. Thank you. You're a wonderful Teacher.
Thanks Bob! I love that you stressed that a complete shot routine often requires personal instruction, weeks to develop and years to perfect. I know I get impatient and your words remind me I got to stick with it, be consistent and put in the time! I much appreciate you. Thanks again 🎱💫
Immensely instructive and informative video, and it comes with great personal timing for me! I've been obsessed with vision center and alignment for the last several months, beginning each session with drills that all include straight center line shots. I basically started over from scratch, after 20 years of playing pool, to really re-establish and iron out my fundamentals. The journey has been really rough, as the form I had developed over the last two decades has been beyond challenging to change. Anyway, the information in this 20 min video really validated much of corrections I've implemented, and it's illuminated the path forward and has invigorated my resolve. I'm grateful for the amazing content! Thank you so much!
I played 29 years with subpar fundamentals. Ten years off. When I came back, same as you, decided to do my best to learn how to do it "right". What a journey! And still learning. Good luck!
It worked! My shooting is getting better thanks to this video. I think my shoulder alignment was off. I’m still tweaking it, but I am noticing improvement. Thanks again.
Excellent video! You described the issue with my stroke perfectly...i recognized my arm pronating inwards and throwing off my shot, so I began using a certain amount of supination to straighten it out. This, of course, fails apart when you have to shoot at different speeds. Getting the perfect balance of each is impossible for all the different types of speeds and stroke lengths used. Unfortunately, I've been doing this for so long that a natural arm movement feels "wrong" and when I look at mirror or video images of my stance and alignment my elbow is more in with my inner shoulder blade as opposed to my shoulder due to supination being in the muscle memory of my stroke. However, I am absolutely determined not to give in and go back to a bad stroke but keep at it until new muscle memory is developed and natural straight alignment is my default position!
It takes less time than you think. The key is to proceed carefully and slowly, making sure the alignment is right. Before long it will be the "New Normal". Good luck!
What a fantastic video. I used to keep my elbow straight but had to adjust due to neck pain and now I keep my elbow tucked in and now I miss shots that I never used to miss when keeping the elbow straight.
Bob, I am new to your channel and am working my way thru this video. I would also like to see your video’s “ for members” only. How do I become a member?
So I'm revisiting this video after 6 months now. After tons of practicing, adjustments, and some moments of hair pulling and frustration (An instructor would be nice but isn't an option in my fairly rural area, just having a place to shoot almost seems like a luxury!) I can honestly say that, for the first time ever, I feel happy with and confident in my stance and alignment. My game did suffer for a bit during the adjustment period but by sticking with it and not falling back on bad form, it has become my natural form and it has transformed my shooting. The shoulder rotation that gets mentioned was the key for me and the most difficult adjustment. It took me a while to realize that the degree of rotation was a bit more severe than I anticipated. Once I got that down, other issues resolved themselves as well...no more coming up on the shot, no dropped elbow, wrist doesn't turn inwards during the stroke, I don't have to manually "set" my wrist into alignment, and I can keep a good loose grip that stays straight thru out the stroke. I said all that to get to this: Thank you very much for this information and video!! There are many fantastic instructional videos out there with valuable information, but this particular one has by far impacted my game the most. So much so that others that I shoot with have actually asked me if I have been taking private lessons! So again, thanks. Being able to take shots with confidence has changed my outlook and mental game as well. I no longer get down on shots and wonder if something will go wrong during the stroke or if I'll get lucky and everything go smoothly. I take every shot now, no matter distance, cut angle, etc. feeling fully confident that I will pocket the ball. And, more often than not, I end up being correct!!
@@procrastinator6902 Thanks for the message. You've demonstrated that knowledge alone isn't enough. It takes hard work and dedicatiion. Congrarulations.
Had to come back and say thanks for posting this video. I watched this with a handful of other videos before league last night and the alignment tips (specifically pushing that shoulder back to be in line) was a unbelievably helpful. Seriously surprised myself with an 18-2. Thanks again!
This video is amazing as such your other videos as well. The alignment part about the wrist supinating or pronating explains why even really good A players tend to turn their wrists after shooting a straight shot. These are great gems. Thank you for the content!
Also just recently found him but Tyrel Blowers has a great pre shot routine where centers the cue with his body like along the belly button vertically then rotates into the shot line. It’s sick.
I’ve been on a local 8 ball team as well as a 9 ball team for a few years now. But I’ve always had difficulty aligning my shots. I agree that videos like this one which explain the fundamentals of body mechanics are hard to find. I don’t know where you are, but it would be great if you could come to our state and give some lessons!
Great stroke Bob! Sounds like some of Mark Wilson's stroke training, make it consistent and repeatable, persist, persist, persist will get you there. Thanks for your time creating the video 👍
After two lessons with Mark I'm certain some Wilson-isms are in there. Ha ha. But I experiment with things ad nauseum to get to the "why". Can't wait to expound on these topics....
That feeling on a shot is called "Dead Stroke" When we shoot by forcing the cue, hard hits etc. there is a great tendency to 'jerk' the cue butt and cause a bad shot. Concentrating on a smooth effortless stroke is always best. Some people also think to put draw on the cue ball they have to hit low and hard, when in reality 'shooting through the cue ball' is far better, it maintains a smooth stroke and much less of a tendency to force the shot.
Thank you so much for this video. I’ve watched hundreds of videos and this is by far the best thing I’ve needed. I learned so much and have immense gratitude to you. I wish I could take lessons from you!
This is an excellent training video. Just the right amount of information without overwhelming the viewer. You have a gift for coaching. It is difficult to deliver the key elements without over explanation or convoluted information. Liked 👍 and subscribed.
Bob, another awesome video! Thank you so much! Just getting my shoulder in line fixed my problem with hitting straight shots. I’m much more consistent just from one training session. I also want to thank you for mentioning the “mighty X” drill by Bert Kinister. He is the OG! I can’t stop watching his videos. Truly a magician revealing all of his secrets. Keep on making awesome videos! I bought your ghost aiming tool and that has helped me to see shot angles tremendously! 🙌🏼
I agree with what many people have said. This is one of best pool alignment videos I've ever seen. This is the first of your videos I've watched but you've gained a subscriber. I can't wait to see what other videos you have
This is the best video I've ever watched concerning the stroke! Really excellent. I tell players all the time that the stroke relies on body position/stance. The body/stroke is a machine, and if you want a consistent stroke delivery, the machine must operate as consistently as possible. Pocketing balls then simply becomes a matter of lining your machine/stroke up correctly (elbow, shoulder, grip hand, all on the same plane every time). I'll be sharing this video with plenty of aspiring players! Thanks for all you do to help pool players reach higher levels!
Yes, sir. I think of the rear foot as the "anchor". Get that right each shot and, with practice, the rest flows into position. Its all built on that anchor.
This is really great stuff. Thanks!! On a side note I salute you for giving Bert Kinister credit for the Mighty X drill. So many people use that as their own discovery but Bert is the one who originated it.
Thanks! Funny that i have figured that analogy to shooting an arrow myself but the throwing to a 5-year old was a great addition to those mental notes. Of course I now spotted many other basic mistakes I've been doing so time for some unlearning and newlearning. 🙏🙏🙏
amazing video and explanation, alot of pool videos i watched as a beginner just told us to 'aim here! aim there!' without showing how to position your body, cue, and stroke
WOW! The best and most helpful video about the fundamentals I've seen. I knew in my mind that practicing with the wrong fundamentals will only make your game worse and you're the only one to point that out and address it. Thanks a ton.
I still remember the first time I got this and the feeling of doing again reinforces this concept, before long you have this in your game and know when and how to call on it for those dead-straight shots.
wow, dude just came on the biliard youtube scene and dropped the most easily understood and executable knowledge I have ever seen for the average player. GOOD STUFF!
This one of the best video I have seen for a while. You explained pretty much everything. I know someone that needs to practice this. Thank you for sharing.
Very nice video. I help train beginner and intermediate players locally and will definitely use that advice. Thanks for all of your videos. I always learn something.
Great stuff as usual.. I started doing the might X after I seen you on one of your streams practice days... I do it twice a week..I'm finally at the point that I can make 15 straight stund shots.. next it's 15 follow shots.. than draw.. big big help.. can't wait for the next stream
You are a man of enormous po knowledge! Thx for all the great info! You are very skilled at delivering the information as well as your cue stick! Great Video!!
I completely stopped playing pool about 20 years ago. Then I gained a bunch of weight. I am now back to playing, but unfortunately all the fat has completely warped my playing stroke and even the simplest shots are 50/50 at best. This video definitely helped me see what the problem is. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how much of a "proper" solution I can implement when my upper arm is being pushed away from my body by now-larger torso, and my wrist is being pushed away from my body by my now-larger belly. I literally am forced to do /both/ the "sidearm" and "chicken wing" strokes. Well... either the diet will work, or I will just have to perfect the stroke defect. At least now, thanks to this video, I can work on it consciously.
Very good and instructive video! Helped my game immediately, I have been struggling with missing the easiest shots. The improvement was unbelievable right after watching your video and playing last night. Thank you so much 🤗
I'm 6'5 too and noticed that we stand very similarly, including the left side of the jaw/chin kind of pushed into the inside of the left shoulder. Great material here for us try-hards! I'm heading straight to your website.
I do tip left at backswing and then cut across to tip right, pulling my elbow in at contact, a reverse chicken wing. I am right handed but super left eye dominant. Using a mirror and video shot straight back to my face, i find that, in order to line up the way you say and have my left eye over the stick looking straight down the shot line, i need to have the big toe tip of my right/anchor foot just to the inside of the shot line and my left/forward foot big toe completely on the shot line, a straight or even a bit inward standing stance. This feels alien to the extreme and goes against everything i have been taught or seen anywhere. But, now my shoulder, elbow, stick and eye seem to be completely vertically aligned. I need to try this out on real shots.
I think I know what you mean. The feet position you describe helps you rotate your shoulders farther. But the balance is not as good because the tripod is so narrow. You could try stepping forward farther with your forward foot, rather than bringing it up to the shot line. Good luck!
I am in the exact same situation as you. I am also trying both the position you described and the position Bob recommended. But it feels really strange. Have you tried Bob’s advice? Let me know more. Thanks a lot.
Some people are born with a natural alignment upon bending his body when aiming at the object ball with the cue. It's like the art of singing; we all have vocal cords, but not all can sing beautiful and professionally even if we spend most of our lifetime attending to a conservatory. An excellent pool player or singer can not easily be found just around the corner. It´s all about a natural aptitude, anatomic characteristic some people are blessed with upon being born. Of course, aside from this natural or what I call a "divine aptitude", in order to be a professional pool player, you need to have a vocation and consequently receive adequate and hard training preferably since an early age.
I have to say, this is a great video. And, THANK YOU for taking the time to make it and share it with everyone. This video helped me understand what I was doing wrong. I would take a shot, and the cue would make contact with the object ball exactly where I wanted and at the right speed.... but "somehow" I wouldn't pot it. It's because I wasn't aligned properly and just before impact the stick would change where I struck the cue. I don't know why I didn't realize this before as I am an incredible marksman. When you explained the "archer" draw... I was able to put it together. It's interesting too... the way you describe making sure your head is level and either centered over the stick or dominant eye over the stick. In marksman training, how you describe where your head should be in this video, is exactly how you set up and "align" an OPTIC on a rifle. The optic needs to be level, and aligned perfectly center over the bore. I am beaming balls in the pocket now. Also worth noting that has improved very rapidly is my success in potting cut shots and long shots. The way I WAS playing didn't affect the short game nearly as much as it did the cuts and longs. If I was off on those, I miss them nearly every time. THANK YOU again for the great tips and PRECISION of your explanations and demonstrations. World class my friend.
Really liked the fact that you talk about shoulder aligment, wrist supination, and that subtle inside twist. Its something I deal with every time I shoot, despite practicing straight shooting for years. Its worst on shots where my stance is cramped and I gotta grip higher up on the cue. These are subtle factors that make a big difference and Im glad someone is talking about them
Go easy, do not hurt yourself. Its taken me two years, while fiddling with other things, to turn my shoulder "enough" and that is comfortable. Good luck!
Whist standing many people are square on with their hips. If you just turn ( swivel) your hips to say 45 degrees your shoulder moves you automatically into the correct position enabling you to follow through much better and the chest doesn’t crowd you cue hand on delivery. Try both ways, when down look at your shoulder and see the difference
Very good video on chicken winging. I tried for years to correct this and ended up hacking around it by rotating my wrist clockwise. But I'm getting sick of it and looking to correct it properly. I tried your X, Y, Z rotation, and filmed it, and it does look better. Very good explanation, not many videos around on this topic.
My biggest take from this, is really pool as a combination of archery and golf I can’t believe I never realized this before. I’m gonna practice these methods. Perhaps I’ll give you an update If it helped
So much similar to archery and golf. But the most similar is actually rifle target shooting. (Look up author Lanny Bassham, his principles translate directly to pool)
appreciate this video. i'm new to APA, only have 5 8-ball games and 3 9-balls under my belt and my stroke has been pissing me off despite only 2 losses. I notice the spin/rotation at the end of my shot and the sway that you mentioned and haven't figured out how to get it under control. i know the higher SL i attain, the more the flaw will be exposed. I have the answer and something to work on. I try to watch the 6s-8s to pick up on what they do but there's only so much i can pick up on without instruction. my team captain has been showing me some things but it's mostly just shot selection and strategy, not so much technique issues.
@@ShortstopOnPoolone other question is that an extension on the middle joints of your cue? Never seen that before only butt extension. I like the middle extension idea.
@@tomburns890I like it too. I want to hold the cue on the wrap. BUT, the metal of the two joints makes it a bit forward balanced and dampens the "feel". I actually just bought a wrapless cue with a very light rear extension. Balance point is almost 2" further forward (more weight in back). Gonna give that a try. I'm sure I'll make a video about it.
@@ShortstopOnPoolmy cue feels a tad butt heavy and why I never went the butt extension route but I’d like to get a 3” or 4” middle extension. Looking into it not and will contact my custom cue maker who made it.
This makes more sense to me than any other “how to” video I’ve watched. Do you happen to have any instructor recommendations for taller and ambidextrous players in the Los Angeles area? Thanks for the video!
I am a good amateur player (of 50 years) that reached APA 9 in 9B and 7 in 8B, but I always struggled with 2 things; I miscued on a lot of draw shots, and I struggled with long straight shots. I was striving for a long flowing stroke but my tip was dipping before impact as my elbow would totally collapse. I blamed missing the long shots on my visual problems that made it hard for me to identify the center of the cue ball. Between this video and the one you made about finding the correct bridge length and grip point to get my hand behind the 90 degree angle at impact, I am now holding the cue about 4" farther back, and using a simple pendulum stroke with a stable elbow. After only 2 sessions on my table, I am drawing the ball more consistently, and potting the long shots much more easily. I also now understand that at 6"2", I need to get a center extension so the cue will feel more balanced. Can you say "Game Changer?" Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
If you think this is good but his book on straight pool. The book is set up like a lesson plan by chapters . If you play straight pool this book is a must have.
These are fundamentals that im relearning after some time off. Center ball is easy and good for this type of training. The biggest problem im having lately is adjusting for english. I know its just practice mostly and repitition. Just wondering if theres something ive forgotten or need to learn about adjustments especially for extreme english. Kamui hard backed on a 30 yr old schon lmtd. The deflection is real but the movement on the rock is amazing when i can bring it all together smooth and soft.
Wonderful summary and good explanations and visuals. I've trained myself for many compensations for many stance/stroke flaws; always inconsistent and frustrating. You are spot on about this. I'm 'only' 6' but have found achieving the shoulder position and a square head impossible (at least so far). My spine doesn't seem to want to turn/twist that much. So two theories: 1) I have spine problems preventing proper alignment; 2) I just don't know the right way to achieve it. I'm hoping for #2 and think it must be your leg and hip positions somehow facilitate it. Further explanations/visuals about that would be great. Note: I've tried instructors but have not yet found one to help with these basics. Shoulder: do you only rotate the torso or do you ALSO rotate your shoulder back in its joint? I tried rotating in the joint but it's not effortless, creates tension and I find it inconsistent. But I try it because of my above spinal twist issues. Do you use any conscious tension to keep the shoulder in a fixed position during the shot? There must be some to hold the elbow in position, right? But I frequently find my elbow wants to drop to 'aid' the shot and sometimes I fight that with extra shoulder tension; I think this is wrong? Shooting straight drills. It's been hard for me to keep interest in most of these, despite needing them. So, I created a new one based on the CB out and back drill, where I put a ball 'in the way' so that an accurate shot will pocket the ball. It makes it far more interesting to me and the drill can be made progressive by changing ball distances and cut angle; note that the aim is NOT for cutting the ball, but for shooting straight (using a rail target, just like the normal out and back drill. I call it the AimRight Straight-Cut Drill. I have a few videos introducing it and the Method it's part of.
I'll look for your videos. Should be no tension in shoulder joint. Torso rotation turns the shoulders. Experiment with Y and Z rotation separately, then integrate. Feet position is huge in figuring how your hips turn, which then effect how your torso can turn.... To me, good hip position feels like a weight shift back and left. Most people have too much weight on forward foot. Look at many pros and you'll see forward leg bent but angled back. Feet, weight shift, torso, shoulders. Its a lot of work finding it, but once there you should feel stable with no exertion. Like you could have a picnic. Good luck.
@@ShortstopOnPool Thanks. Weight shift back and left -- yet don't have too much weight on forward foot. How is that not contradictory? I've been experimenting today. I've been able to twist more than I thought I could. Three immediate questions . 1. Stretching for shots. I find myself much more sideways while trying to do your approach. The result seems to be that I can't reach as far. Maybe because of your height, this isn't an issue for you, but it seems that I either need to switch my stance on those shots so I can reach -- or I need to use the bridge more. What say you? 2. Shoulder position. When you are in your stance, can you stroke with your upper arm and make shots? That is, is shoulder alignment proved by such a successful test? Because I miss to one side when doing that. Correspondingly, if I drop my elbow a little early, I miss. I would have thought the purpose of shoulder alignment would be to make the stroke more robust to withstand a little upper arm movement. If YOU can be accurate with an upper arm stroke, it would tell me that I still haven't rotated enough. Or you tell me: how can I tell if I've rotated enough experimentally (I guess an overhead camera would also be a way, if I had one)? 3. Error to the left. I consistently hit a little to the left and I don't think it's my vision/sighting; I think my error might be my backswing. I suspect it's a residue of past clearance problems and I've learned to pull back and away a little. I don't think it's my forward stroke because my typical error there has my hand pull into my side with the tip going to the right. Not enough data yet, but I suspect that maybe the fix is to create even more clearance by bending down further (feet positioned further away) with even more twist (if I can do it). Thoughts?
@@aimprobilliards1009I can't answer without a video so I can see what you're doing and thats getting toward a lesson. But very briefly, stretched out stance is different. Shoulder is ball/socket so can move every which way. Swinging the upper arm won't reveal anything. All I can say is with the best alignment, your lower arm will fall straight down the line with no muscle input at all.
I disagree with your "no pronounced rear pause" theory. I struggled for years with consistency until, I introduced a rear pause to my stroke. The rear pause has made the biggest improvement to my stroke and performance of any change I've ever introduced into my game and fundis. I know it's different strokes for different folks. No pun intended! But, I also think a vast amount of struggling players would benefit from a rear pause introduction to their pool stroke fundamentals. Thx for the great video SSOP Bob!
I have no doubt it did help you. Sports researchers today call it the "Quiet Eye". They even did a scientific study on pool players. The missing bit is that the quiet eye pause works best before the backstroke, when all physical motion is quiet also. And, holding the cue at the apex of the backstroke requires physical energy which is not needed, creates tension, and an opportunity for the cue to go off line. Using only the tiny, natural pause of gravity at the apex, allows natural momentum to keep the cue online.
@ShortstopOnPool I agree! So, actually, I pause at the cue ball and then again at the back. I always paused in the front at address. The rear pause was a really tough one to implement.
@@ShortstopOnPoolI have a theory. I actually you need tension in the back. It's like a stretch reflex (plyometric), allowing you to swing with the least effort possible. What I think I see is a pattern. Players with a pause, have a tendency to have a slightly quicker backstroke (like fedor and feijen), while players who do not pause, have a slightly slower backstroke (ko brothers). And just from my own experience, both work. But doing the opposite: slow backstroke and long pause, takes all the spring tension out of the stroke.
I'm gonna research this. Thanks. I think the 'spring tension' you are talking about is good. I used the word 'tension' very loosely and mean something different. Just what I need to get started on my "transistion" video.
After 60 years of pool I just watched the best breakdown of a pool stroke. Absolutely exceptional. This will help anyone, any level. Thank you.
I have 50 years of serious pool and I agree
Great video Bob! This is the type of content pool players looking to improve need to watch. No "Supercharge your game" or "Must have shots" videos. But rather solid, repeatable fundamentals with the goal of delivering a straight stroke. This is where advancement occurs. I work on my stroke everyday. Even on my best days. Little bad habits can easily creep back in slowly without notice so it's important to incorporate straight stroke drills as part of a daily practice routine, even if only for a few minutes. Ideally at the beginning and end of a training session. Great job!!
My saying is, your technique can deteriorate without attention. Same thing! Ha ha
@@ShortstopOnPool Exactly!!
Right?! There's so many ways to miss a shot in this game. People ask me how it works because I look comfy 9/10 shots but it's that one shot that I focus on.
Edit: I'm middle of the pack as far as actual pool players go(which I think is pretty amazing). When I'm on I'm on, but I'm prone to miss position and overthink most of the time. This is when an actual good player will beat me.
I’m the same way… I’ve been criticized for overthinking my shots for many years! And for me there’s also the psychological factor that if I feel the other player is better than me, I tend to lose.
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This is the best alignment video I’ve seen. I actually felt the difference in seeing the ball and positioning my hip, elbow, shoulder and cue stick. It is easily repeatable and identifies improper alignment immediately. Thanks.
Nice!!
This is essential for anybody that wants to be great at pool. One of the best videos around. Thank you
Agree
I have to Thank You! I was a 100 ball runner back in the early 90s. Life took over and I gave up the game for many years. I tried hard to get my game back about 15 years later but couldn’t. I had this weird problem where i wasn’t hitting what i was aiming at even after 100s of hours of practice.
Your video caused me to video tape myself but it also reminded me of something I worked on everyday when i was a better player. i would work on my pendulum stroke and finishing a straight grip at a certain point in my shoulder. Somewhere along the line I developed this funky sideways elbow drop during my transition. Even when my elbow felt quiet, video rec told me it was still active.
I’m now consistently hitting my aim point.
Thank you 🙏 so much for giving back.
Sincerely,
Jack
Funny how that works! I'm actively perfecting my stroke at the moment and I'm finally starting to feel when my fundamentals are off. Certain shots I can't miss, and certain shots I know I'll miss because I'm not comfortable. I dunno how often the tension in my lead shoulder will affect straight pool or one pocket, but I sure feel it in 9 and 8 ball close to the rail.
This is pure gold.
One of the best instructional videos I’ve seen. Well demonstrated and explained.
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When you described "tip left," you really really got my attention!
I know, right? And even now I will catch my tip going left, I'm like, sheesh!
I've found the primary reason I go left, is when I squeeze the cue as I stroke through. I've found the same with many others too.
I think I know what is meant by “tip left“. Lately when the object ball is near the rail and it’s a long run, I always seem to overcut the shot and miss the pocket by about an inch. Your video will help me rethink my mechanics to hopefully correct this, thanks!
This is another great video! Most amateur pool players don't realize how important thier aligmnet is when it comes to consistency. Thank you for this information.
I’m pretty new to playing pool and I don’t understand why such simple videos like this one are so hard to find. Just simple fundamentals made me subscribe and turn notifications on. Thanks!
@@SnappySnaps20 Thank you! I know what you mean and will try to keep it up.
ALIGNMENT......yesssssssss finally a video that actually helps me to understand why i kept tipping left
WHAT A GREAT VIDEO
Great Information
I played a lot of pool twenty five years ago and now That I am retired.
I can't even run 3 balls.
In a row. This video has reinforced. What I need to start working on.
After all these years being away from the game
"Tip left" is what I make wrong since the beginning, even with watching hundreds of videos.
Thanks for this great advice!!! 😊
My father told me when I was young that the straight stroke was the most important part of the game then, where you leave the ball. He still had a perfect straight stroke one hand behind the back. He was the best pool player, I've ever met personally, and I've met a few. RIP DAD. 😇 Best video I ever saw on fundamentals in a straight stroke. The underhanded throw to a toddler, and emulating an archer comparisons, were genius, light bulb moments. Thank you. You're a wonderful Teacher.
Thanks Bob! I love that you stressed that a complete shot routine often requires personal instruction, weeks to develop and years to perfect. I know I get impatient and your words remind me I got to stick with it, be consistent and put in the time! I much appreciate you. Thanks again 🎱💫
Immensely instructive and informative video, and it comes with great personal timing for me!
I've been obsessed with vision center and alignment for the last several months, beginning each session with drills that all include straight center line shots.
I basically started over from scratch, after 20 years of playing pool, to really re-establish and iron out my fundamentals. The journey has been really rough, as the form I had developed over the last two decades has been beyond challenging to change. Anyway, the information in this 20 min video really validated much of corrections I've implemented, and it's illuminated the path forward and has invigorated my resolve.
I'm grateful for the amazing content! Thank you so much!
I played 29 years with subpar fundamentals. Ten years off. When I came back, same as you, decided to do my best to learn how to do it "right". What a journey! And still learning. Good luck!
Good stuff. The alignment is just like archery. Getting everything inline makes for a naturally straight shot and I’m more relaxed.
This may be your best work yet. Impressive and utterly helpful. I hope this goes viral.
Great video! That “double-kiss back” drill is brilliant! I’ve struggled with straight shots for months 🙌🏽
It worked!
My shooting is getting better thanks to this video.
I think my shoulder alignment was off.
I’m still tweaking it, but I am noticing improvement.
Thanks again.
Excellent video! You described the issue with my stroke perfectly...i recognized my arm pronating inwards and throwing off my shot, so I began using a certain amount of supination to straighten it out. This, of course, fails apart when you have to shoot at different speeds. Getting the perfect balance of each is impossible for all the different types of speeds and stroke lengths used.
Unfortunately, I've been doing this for so long that a natural arm movement feels "wrong" and when I look at mirror or video images of my stance and alignment my elbow is more in with my inner shoulder blade as opposed to my shoulder due to supination being in the muscle memory of my stroke.
However, I am absolutely determined not to give in and go back to a bad stroke but keep at it until new muscle memory is developed and natural straight alignment is my default position!
It takes less time than you think. The key is to proceed carefully and slowly, making sure the alignment is right. Before long it will be the "New Normal". Good luck!
You have really simplified an exceptionally difficult concept to understand and even harder to execute! Thank you!
What a fantastic video. I used to keep my elbow straight but had to adjust due to neck pain and now I keep my elbow tucked in and now I miss shots that I never used to miss when keeping the elbow straight.
this IS step one,
the fundamentals
you will never have high run consistency with out these basics.
Great explanation, thank you
Bob, I am new to your channel and am working my way thru this video. I would also like to see your video’s “ for members” only. How do I become a member?
The most comprehensive, informative and HELPFUL video that exists on TH-cam.
So I'm revisiting this video after 6 months now. After tons of practicing, adjustments, and some moments of hair pulling and frustration (An instructor would be nice but isn't an option in my fairly rural area, just having a place to shoot almost seems like a luxury!) I can honestly say that, for the first time ever, I feel happy with and confident in my stance and alignment. My game did suffer for a bit during the adjustment period but by sticking with it and not falling back on bad form, it has become my natural form and it has transformed my shooting.
The shoulder rotation that gets mentioned was the key for me and the most difficult adjustment. It took me a while to realize that the degree of rotation was a bit more severe than I anticipated. Once I got that down, other issues resolved themselves as well...no more coming up on the shot, no dropped elbow, wrist doesn't turn inwards during the stroke, I don't have to manually "set" my wrist into alignment, and I can keep a good loose grip that stays straight thru out the stroke.
I said all that to get to this: Thank you very much for this information and video!! There are many fantastic instructional videos out there with valuable information, but this particular one has by far impacted my game the most. So much so that others that I shoot with have actually asked me if I have been taking private lessons! So again, thanks. Being able to take shots with confidence has changed my outlook and mental game as well. I no longer get down on shots and wonder if something will go wrong during the stroke or if I'll get lucky and everything go smoothly. I take every shot now, no matter distance, cut angle, etc. feeling fully confident that I will pocket the ball. And, more often than not, I end up being correct!!
@@procrastinator6902 Thanks for the message. You've demonstrated that knowledge alone isn't enough. It takes hard work and dedicatiion. Congrarulations.
Had to come back and say thanks for posting this video. I watched this with a handful of other videos before league last night and the alignment tips (specifically pushing that shoulder back to be in line) was a unbelievably helpful. Seriously surprised myself with an 18-2. Thanks again!
The best explanation I never seen before
I'm not a beginner, but i have to say, this is the best video I've seen on this subject. It connected on many levels. Ty
This video is amazing as such your other videos as well. The alignment part about the wrist supinating or pronating explains why even really good A players tend to turn their wrists after shooting a straight shot. These are great gems. Thank you for the content!
Also just recently found him but Tyrel Blowers has a great pre shot routine where centers the cue with his body like along the belly button vertically then rotates into the shot line. It’s sick.
I’ve been on a local 8 ball team as well as a 9 ball team for a few years now. But I’ve always had difficulty aligning my shots. I agree that videos like this one which explain the fundamentals of body mechanics are hard to find. I don’t know where you are, but it would be great if you could come to our state and give some lessons!
Your Ghost Aimer is the most brilliant idea I saw in the market.
Great stroke Bob! Sounds like some of Mark Wilson's stroke training, make it consistent and repeatable, persist, persist, persist will get you there. Thanks for your time creating the video 👍
After two lessons with Mark I'm certain some Wilson-isms are in there. Ha ha. But I experiment with things ad nauseum to get to the "why". Can't wait to expound on these topics....
That feeling on a shot is called "Dead Stroke" When we shoot by forcing the cue, hard hits etc. there is a great tendency to 'jerk' the cue butt and cause a bad shot. Concentrating on a smooth effortless stroke is always best. Some people also think to put draw on the cue ball they have to hit low and hard, when in reality 'shooting through the cue ball' is far better, it maintains a smooth stroke and much less of a tendency to force the shot.
Thank you so much for this video. I’ve watched hundreds of videos and this is by far the best thing I’ve needed. I learned so much and have immense gratitude to you. I wish I could take lessons from you!
This is an excellent training video. Just the right amount of information without overwhelming the viewer.
You have a gift for coaching. It is difficult to deliver the key elements without over explanation or convoluted information.
Liked 👍 and subscribed.
Thank you!
Bob, another awesome video! Thank you so much! Just getting my shoulder in line fixed my problem with hitting straight shots. I’m much more consistent just from one training session. I also want to thank you for mentioning the “mighty X” drill by Bert Kinister. He is the OG! I can’t stop watching his videos. Truly a magician revealing all of his secrets. Keep on making awesome videos! I bought your ghost aiming tool and that has helped me to see shot angles tremendously! 🙌🏼
Love it! Thank you. Keep playing it straight.
I agree with what many people have said. This is one of best pool alignment videos I've ever seen. This is the first of your videos I've watched but you've gained a subscriber. I can't wait to see what other videos you have
This is the best video I've ever watched concerning the stroke! Really excellent.
I tell players all the time that the stroke relies on body position/stance. The body/stroke is a machine, and if you want a consistent stroke delivery, the machine must operate as consistently as possible. Pocketing balls then simply becomes a matter of lining your machine/stroke up correctly (elbow, shoulder, grip hand, all on the same plane every time).
I'll be sharing this video with plenty of aspiring players! Thanks for all you do to help pool players reach higher levels!
Yes, sir. I think of the rear foot as the "anchor". Get that right each shot and, with practice, the rest flows into position. Its all built on that anchor.
@@ShortstopOnPool absolutely!
This is some prime cut stuff right here. Thank you for all that you do. PS your original intro was the best.
This is really great stuff. Thanks!! On a side note I salute you for giving Bert Kinister credit for the Mighty X drill. So many people use that as their own discovery but Bert is the one who originated it.
Thanks! Funny that i have figured that analogy to shooting an arrow myself but the throwing to a 5-year old was a great addition to those mental notes. Of course I now spotted many other basic mistakes I've been doing so time for some unlearning and newlearning. 🙏🙏🙏
I think this is one of the best vids on alignment I've seen. Hat Tip....Even "Bert" would be proud.😊😊
Wow, thanks!
amazing video and explanation, alot of pool videos i watched as a beginner just told us to 'aim here! aim there!' without showing how to position your body, cue, and stroke
First Video I have watched and understood it to be a straight shooter!!
This guy knows what he is talking about. New subscriber for sure
WOW! The best and most helpful video about the fundamentals I've seen. I knew in my mind that practicing with the wrong fundamentals will only make your game worse and you're the only one to point that out and address it. Thanks a ton.
Awesome stuff! Congrats with another great in-depth tutorial. I have a feeling this might blow up!
This video is the best I’ve seen. Thank you.
I still remember the first time I got this and the feeling of doing again reinforces this concept, before long you have this in your game and know when and how to call on it for those dead-straight shots.
Tack!
Thank you so much!
wow, dude just came on the biliard youtube scene and dropped the most easily understood and executable knowledge I have ever seen for the average player. GOOD STUFF!
I call the straight stroke "The Holy Grail" of pocket billiards. Nice video. One of the best I've seen on developing a straight stroke.
This one of the best video I have seen for a while. You explained pretty much everything. I know someone that needs to practice this. Thank you for sharing.
Very nice video. I help train beginner and intermediate players locally and will definitely use that advice. Thanks for all of your videos. I always learn something.
Such a comprehensive guide ! Love it !
Thank you
One of the best how to video on shooting straight.. thank you for this
Great stuff as usual.. I started doing the might X after I seen you on one of your streams practice days... I do it twice a week..I'm finally at the point that I can make 15 straight stund shots.. next it's 15 follow shots.. than draw.. big big help.. can't wait for the next stream
This is frigging brilliant
You are a man of enormous po knowledge! Thx for all the great info! You are very skilled at delivering the information as well as your cue stick! Great Video!!
I appreciate that!
I completely stopped playing pool about 20 years ago. Then I gained a bunch of weight. I am now back to playing, but unfortunately all the fat has completely warped my playing stroke and even the simplest shots are 50/50 at best. This video definitely helped me see what the problem is. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how much of a "proper" solution I can implement when my upper arm is being pushed away from my body by now-larger torso, and my wrist is being pushed away from my body by my now-larger belly. I literally am forced to do /both/ the "sidearm" and "chicken wing" strokes. Well... either the diet will work, or I will just have to perfect the stroke defect. At least now, thanks to this video, I can work on it consciously.
Very good and instructive video! Helped my game immediately, I have been struggling with missing the easiest shots. The improvement was unbelievable right after watching your video and playing last night. Thank you so much 🤗
Great video Bob. Like most of your videos great detail and easy to follow. I like how you talk about alignment and then you give drills to improve.
This video has so much great information and great illustrations. Phenomenal work Bob. 🤩👍🔥
Very good video, im going to try all of these techniques
Hey rob ,luckily i never had this problem .be safe !
I'm 6'5 too and noticed that we stand very similarly, including the left side of the jaw/chin kind of pushed into the inside of the left shoulder. Great material here for us try-hards! I'm heading straight to your website.
This a class instructional video. Very impressed. Now I just need to incorporate into my game😮
Thank you! I just started playing a few weeks ago. This is very helpful
I do tip left at backswing and then cut across to tip right, pulling my elbow in at contact, a reverse chicken wing. I am right handed but super left eye dominant. Using a mirror and video shot straight back to my face, i find that, in order to line up the way you say and have my left eye over the stick looking straight down the shot line, i need to have the big toe tip of my right/anchor foot just to the inside of the shot line and my left/forward foot big toe completely on the shot line, a straight or even a bit inward standing stance. This feels alien to the extreme and goes against everything i have been taught or seen anywhere. But, now my shoulder, elbow, stick and eye seem to be completely vertically aligned. I need to try this out on real shots.
I think I know what you mean. The feet position you describe helps you rotate your shoulders farther. But the balance is not as good because the tripod is so narrow. You could try stepping forward farther with your forward foot, rather than bringing it up to the shot line. Good luck!
I am in the exact same situation as you. I am also trying both the position you described and the position Bob recommended. But it feels really strange. Have you tried Bob’s advice? Let me know more. Thanks a lot.
Some people are born with a natural alignment upon bending his body when aiming at the object ball with the cue. It's like the art of singing; we all have vocal cords, but not all can sing beautiful and professionally even if we spend most of our lifetime attending to a conservatory. An excellent pool player or singer can not easily be found just around the corner. It´s all about a natural aptitude, anatomic characteristic some people are blessed with upon being born. Of course, aside from this natural or what I call a "divine aptitude", in order to be a professional pool player, you need to have a vocation and consequently receive adequate and hard training preferably since an early age.
working on my game. thanks
I have to say, this is a great video. And, THANK YOU for taking the time to make it and share it with everyone. This video helped me understand what I was doing wrong. I would take a shot, and the cue would make contact with the object ball exactly where I wanted and at the right speed.... but "somehow" I wouldn't pot it. It's because I wasn't aligned properly and just before impact the stick would change where I struck the cue. I don't know why I didn't realize this before as I am an incredible marksman. When you explained the "archer" draw... I was able to put it together. It's interesting too... the way you describe making sure your head is level and either centered over the stick or dominant eye over the stick. In marksman training, how you describe where your head should be in this video, is exactly how you set up and "align" an OPTIC on a rifle. The optic needs to be level, and aligned perfectly center over the bore. I am beaming balls in the pocket now. Also worth noting that has improved very rapidly is my success in potting cut shots and long shots. The way I WAS playing didn't affect the short game nearly as much as it did the cuts and longs. If I was off on those, I miss them nearly every time. THANK YOU again for the great tips and PRECISION of your explanations and demonstrations. World class my friend.
Sweet! Good to hear.
Really liked the fact that you talk about shoulder aligment, wrist supination, and that subtle inside twist. Its something I deal with every time I shoot, despite practicing straight shooting for years. Its worst on shots where my stance is cramped and I gotta grip higher up on the cue. These are subtle factors that make a big difference and Im glad someone is talking about them
Its really amazing that a tiny change that is not even perceptible on video has such a huge effect.
Wow, trying to rotate my shoulder behind my head is a challenge and totally different feeling.
Go easy, do not hurt yourself. Its taken me two years, while fiddling with other things, to turn my shoulder "enough" and that is comfortable. Good luck!
Whist standing many people are square on with their hips. If you just turn ( swivel) your hips to say 45 degrees your shoulder moves you automatically into the correct position enabling you to follow through much better and the chest doesn’t crowd you cue hand on delivery. Try both ways, when down look at your shoulder and see the difference
Great Video, need to diagnose my stroke now, and I got the knowledge to do so. Thanks!
Very good video on chicken winging. I tried for years to correct this and ended up hacking around it by rotating my wrist clockwise. But I'm getting sick of it and looking to correct it properly. I tried your X, Y, Z rotation, and filmed it, and it does look better. Very good explanation, not many videos around on this topic.
The shoulder advice is very helpful - thanks!
I'm glad I clicked ❤
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Damnation…your instructional videos are excellent for a beginner like me…thank you so much, sir!
Great explanation of stroke anatomy!
My biggest take from this, is really pool as a combination of archery and golf
I can’t believe I never realized this before. I’m gonna practice these methods. Perhaps I’ll give you an update If it helped
So much similar to archery and golf. But the most similar is actually rifle target shooting. (Look up author Lanny Bassham, his principles translate directly to pool)
appreciate this video. i'm new to APA, only have 5 8-ball games and 3 9-balls under my belt and my stroke has been pissing me off despite only 2 losses. I notice the spin/rotation at the end of my shot and the sway that you mentioned and haven't figured out how to get it under control. i know the higher SL i attain, the more the flaw will be exposed. I have the answer and something to work on. I try to watch the 6s-8s to pick up on what they do but there's only so much i can pick up on without instruction. my team captain has been showing me some things but it's mostly just shot selection and strategy, not so much technique issues.
Concise video . Best I've seen yet .
Thank you so much!. Your video brought me - by using your advices and informations - to a new level. Just great!
Thanks brother! Very good video!
Good video and In other words: Technique, along with endless hours of practice & pressure competition. Cheers
Good point. Proper technique makes the practice more efficient, productive and not as 'endless'.
@@ShortstopOnPoolone other question is that an extension on the middle joints of your cue? Never seen that before only butt extension. I like the middle extension idea.
@@tomburns890I like it too. I want to hold the cue on the wrap. BUT, the metal of the two joints makes it a bit forward balanced and dampens the "feel". I actually just bought a wrapless cue with a very light rear extension. Balance point is almost 2" further forward (more weight in back). Gonna give that a try. I'm sure I'll make a video about it.
@@ShortstopOnPoolmy cue feels a tad butt heavy and why I never went the butt extension route but I’d like to get a 3” or 4” middle extension. Looking into it not and will contact my custom cue maker who made it.
This makes more sense to me than any other “how to” video I’ve watched. Do you happen to have any instructor recommendations for taller and ambidextrous players in the Los Angeles area? Thanks for the video!
No, but I do online lessons. www.shortstoponpool.com
I am a good amateur player (of 50 years) that reached APA 9 in 9B and 7 in 8B, but I always struggled with 2 things; I miscued on a lot of draw shots, and I struggled with long straight shots. I was striving for a long flowing stroke but my tip was dipping before impact as my elbow would totally collapse. I blamed missing the long shots on my visual problems that made it hard for me to identify the center of the cue ball. Between this video and the one you made about finding the correct bridge length and grip point to get my hand behind the 90 degree angle at impact, I am now holding the cue about 4" farther back, and using a simple pendulum stroke with a stable elbow. After only 2 sessions on my table, I am drawing the ball more consistently, and potting the long shots much more easily. I also now understand that at 6"2", I need to get a center extension so the cue will feel more balanced.
Can you say "Game Changer?" Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
Please give me the link of the video about the correct bridge length and grip point. Thanks.
Hey Bob, your video was great!!
Great information. Apparently my shoulder has not been in line. Now that I’m aware of it and making sure it’s in line, I’ve been MUCH more accurate.
This guy HAS to be a professional educator. His approach is spot on.
If you think this is good but his book on straight pool. The book is set up like a lesson plan by chapters . If you play straight pool this book is a must have.
These are fundamentals that im relearning after some time off. Center ball is easy and good for this type of training. The biggest problem im having lately is adjusting for english. I know its just practice mostly and repitition. Just wondering if theres something ive forgotten or need to learn about adjustments especially for extreme english. Kamui hard backed on a 30 yr old schon lmtd. The deflection is real but the movement on the rock is amazing when i can bring it all together smooth and soft.
This is the instructional video I've been looking for!
Wonderful summary and good explanations and visuals.
I've trained myself for many compensations for many stance/stroke flaws; always inconsistent and frustrating. You are spot on about this.
I'm 'only' 6' but have found achieving the shoulder position and a square head impossible (at least so far). My spine doesn't seem to want to turn/twist that much. So two theories: 1) I have spine problems preventing proper alignment; 2) I just don't know the right way to achieve it. I'm hoping for #2 and think it must be your leg and hip positions somehow facilitate it. Further explanations/visuals about that would be great. Note: I've tried instructors but have not yet found one to help with these basics.
Shoulder: do you only rotate the torso or do you ALSO rotate your shoulder back in its joint? I tried rotating in the joint but it's not effortless, creates tension and I find it inconsistent. But I try it because of my above spinal twist issues. Do you use any conscious tension to keep the shoulder in a fixed position during the shot? There must be some to hold the elbow in position, right? But I frequently find my elbow wants to drop to 'aid' the shot and sometimes I fight that with extra shoulder tension; I think this is wrong?
Shooting straight drills. It's been hard for me to keep interest in most of these, despite needing them. So, I created a new one based on the CB out and back drill, where I put a ball 'in the way' so that an accurate shot will pocket the ball. It makes it far more interesting to me and the drill can be made progressive by changing ball distances and cut angle; note that the aim is NOT for cutting the ball, but for shooting straight (using a rail target, just like the normal out and back drill. I call it the AimRight Straight-Cut Drill. I have a few videos introducing it and the Method it's part of.
I'll look for your videos.
Should be no tension in shoulder joint. Torso rotation turns the shoulders. Experiment with Y and Z rotation separately, then integrate. Feet position is huge in figuring how your hips turn, which then effect how your torso can turn....
To me, good hip position feels like a weight shift back and left. Most people have too much weight on forward foot. Look at many pros and you'll see forward leg bent but angled back. Feet, weight shift, torso, shoulders. Its a lot of work finding it, but once there you should feel stable with no exertion. Like you could have a picnic. Good luck.
@@ShortstopOnPool Thanks.
Weight shift back and left -- yet don't have too much weight on forward foot. How is that not contradictory?
I've been experimenting today. I've been able to twist more than I thought I could.
Three immediate questions .
1. Stretching for shots. I find myself much more sideways while trying to do your approach. The result seems to be that I can't reach as far. Maybe because of your height, this isn't an issue for you, but it seems that I either need to switch my stance on those shots so I can reach -- or I need to use the bridge more. What say you?
2. Shoulder position. When you are in your stance, can you stroke with your upper arm and make shots? That is, is shoulder alignment proved by such a successful test? Because I miss to one side when doing that. Correspondingly, if I drop my elbow a little early, I miss. I would have thought the purpose of shoulder alignment would be to make the stroke more robust to withstand a little upper arm movement. If YOU can be accurate with an upper arm stroke, it would tell me that I still haven't rotated enough. Or you tell me: how can I tell if I've rotated enough experimentally (I guess an overhead camera would also be a way, if I had one)?
3. Error to the left. I consistently hit a little to the left and I don't think it's my vision/sighting; I think my error might be my backswing. I suspect it's a residue of past clearance problems and I've learned to pull back and away a little. I don't think it's my forward stroke because my typical error there has my hand pull into my side with the tip going to the right. Not enough data yet, but I suspect that maybe the fix is to create even more clearance by bending down further (feet positioned further away) with even more twist (if I can do it). Thoughts?
@@aimprobilliards1009I can't answer without a video so I can see what you're doing and thats getting toward a lesson.
But very briefly, stretched out stance is different. Shoulder is ball/socket so can move every which way. Swinging the upper arm won't reveal anything. All I can say is with the best alignment, your lower arm will fall straight down the line with no muscle input at all.
I disagree with your "no pronounced rear pause" theory. I struggled for years with consistency until, I introduced a rear pause to my stroke. The rear pause has made the biggest improvement to my stroke and performance of any change I've ever introduced into my game and fundis. I know it's different strokes for different folks. No pun intended! But, I also think a vast amount of struggling players would benefit from a rear pause introduction to their pool stroke fundamentals. Thx for the great video SSOP Bob!
I have no doubt it did help you. Sports researchers today call it the "Quiet Eye". They even did a scientific study on pool players. The missing bit is that the quiet eye pause works best before the backstroke, when all physical motion is quiet also. And, holding the cue at the apex of the backstroke requires physical energy which is not needed, creates tension, and an opportunity for the cue to go off line. Using only the tiny, natural pause of gravity at the apex, allows natural momentum to keep the cue online.
@ShortstopOnPool I agree! So, actually, I pause at the cue ball and then again at the back. I always paused in the front at address. The rear pause was a really tough one to implement.
@@ShortstopOnPoolI have a theory. I actually you need tension in the back. It's like a stretch reflex (plyometric), allowing you to swing with the least effort possible. What I think I see is a pattern. Players with a pause, have a tendency to have a slightly quicker backstroke (like fedor and feijen), while players who do not pause, have a slightly slower backstroke (ko brothers). And just from my own experience, both work. But doing the opposite: slow backstroke and long pause, takes all the spring tension out of the stroke.
I'm gonna research this. Thanks. I think the 'spring tension' you are talking about is good. I used the word 'tension' very loosely and mean something different. Just what I need to get started on my "transistion" video.
@@ShortstopOnPool U r a gifted instructor
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the best video on this topic. Thanks master.
My video on Speed Control will be out in a few days. Stay tuned....!
Great video Bob. Keep up the good work.
fantastic instructional video - thank you very much