This has been a really fun series. There's a ton of class rankings out there that focus purely on character optimization, it's really awesome to see a ranking that actually takes theme, content, and coolness into account. Especially in a game with basically infinitely scalable difficulty that stuff matters a ton to how enjoyable and replayable the game is and you did a great job incorporating it without ignoring mechanical viability.l
He even takes into account the likelihood a class would be useful or fill a gap. Eg the comment about Seelah making Paladin less necessary. It really rung true for me.
@@asw654 especially cause some companions probably aren't leaving if you want to make your KC their class anyways. Like if you're playing Pally, then Seelah ain't gonna leave you in Act 5, since any Mythic Path that would cause her to leave is ineligible for keeping Pally privileges
Awesome video. Now my proposal: best alternative classes for companions. My hot take, Seelah -skald with a focus on shields Camellia -crusader cleric Wenduag -ranged slayer Lann -divine hound Woljif -incense synthesizer Ember -sorcerer Nenio -rowdy Sosiel -Ecclesitheurge Regil - sohei Monk Daeren- thundercaller bard I can keep my hot take going if this message gets traction
I second this suggestion. I was going to suggest exactly the same. Please don't take this as "the crowd is never satisfied". The series was BANANAS and we all appreciate your work and effort. If you feel like creating more content like this, alternative classes (or builds) would be nice.
It's nice to see someone that actually ranks these clases and archetypes based on more than optimisation or "what can it do with a dip". I personally generaly pick classes based on theme more than what's optimal. That's not to say I'd pick the worst class and leave it as is, but that I prefer a thematic build more than min-maxed bs that makes no sense to me. This is the reason why I go Steelblood into Hellknight. Everyone says you should just pick Primalist and that's it. But, as a bloodrager enjoyer, it's nice to be able to multiclass into something that the world actually reacts to.
Just started playing Wrath now, its a good time as I wait for BG3 to patch up a little bit more before I begin that incredible looking game. Its really amazing the amount of info you have here for this game! I'm starting with this one to get a feel for all the many classes in WotR Thanks again..
Thank YOU for having provided entertainment to us over these months. Actualy more than a year now isn't it? May you have happy holidays and a magnificent new year- and a lot of fun making these videos in the future too. Cheers!
This was a fantastic series! I especially love the fact you took RP, reactivity and theme into account for these rankings. Too often guides like this only care about mechanics and anything that doesn't break the game is trash lol. Anybody who wants help with the game as a newbie or a returning player who is trying to figure out what has changed via patches should use this series as a guide in my book.
Your list is close to mine, but the difficulty setting I play on is different so I have a different perspective (I play pretty much exclusively on unfair). I'd have ranked demonslayer maybe a little lower (it is still an S tier for me for sure), while cleric paladin and gendarme a bit higher, but its fairly close to your list honestly. Best class in the game is a very hard thing to rank or consider with how many classes are in the entire game, but if I was pushed to shove on #1 class, it'd probably be brown fur transmuter, and not for the main character, but as a merc. The base cleric does have some things going for it over ecclisatheurge. It can wear a shield and medium armor and there are some very powerful shields (cold bite) and medium armors (hide of elemental carnage) that an ecclisatheurge cant wear, but base cleric can without any need for feats. Base cleric still has the same amount of domains as well. Crusader is harder to rank because its almost completely different than ecc/cleric being almost exclusively martial focused while the other two lean more towards being caster focused. All three of these classes are strong, and deserve an A or higher ranking from me for sure (not sure why you put cleric at C tier, it really is a strong class). Gendarme is kinda like the S tier of cavalier. Its feat progression is similar in vein to that of a primalist, in that it trades teamwork feats for combat feats, and this is almost always better. I really wanted to roll a beast rider but was turned off by its bonus feats mostly being teamwork only feats :( Court poet also is S tier because it gives a morale bonus to int and cha which is nearly impossible to get and almost always will stack with your casters. It also raises his own DC over other skalds when he casts spells, and the majority of skald spells are evocation/enchantment based which love having higher DC. It is equivalent on the same level as skald to me if you're running a caster heavy party it will scale them through the roof. My court poet weirdly enough uses a staff and does nothing but sing and cast confuse / shouts with the odd displacement or invisibility thrown in to help my front line. When fighting undead I swap to a bow on him. One last note, his song not only improves your casters capabilities, but improves monk evasion rate, and most importantly, your smite evils from paladins. A court poet buffing and supporting a few paladins is devastating. Lastly, paladins. A tier minimum but most likely S tier. Cant speak enough about how strong paladins are. In most situations they're stronger than even your #1 demonslayer. Bless weapon is one of the strongest buffs a martial can have applied and is absolutely bonkers (which by the way, rangers dont get access to unfortunately. I think its a paladin and glory domain exclusive spell), and in combination with smite and mark of justice its just too good in a campaign devoted to 90+% evil enemies you fight. Full pet progression too is just icing on the cake. The only thing people laud about paladins that I dont is their inherent saves. On unfair, saves don't honestly matter that much (even in guarded hearth my paladins are still getting hit by things like phantasmal putrefaction and other nasty aoes). Maybe on an easier difficulty these things would matter but I don't include this as on unfair it doesn't change a thing lol.
Salud to you my man you have helped me under stand the game more. Of course sparked my thirst to replay this game multiple times!! Excellent work. Very entertaining and professionally scripted.
I may have mentioned this before in a previous video, but I'm grateful for your content. I have over 500+ hours in the game but I've only beaten the game once because I'm so indecisive about what class to play. Your list has really helped me out and made me realize I don't need to do some crazy build with 3 lvl dips in other classes just to beat the game on core difficulty. I've started coming up with my own builds and not just following the cookie-cutter ones I've found online and I'm having much more fun with the game.
@@SlanderedGaming There's a fun interaction with the Clemency of Shadows ring and summons, i've noticed that any skeleton's / minions I summon that get *knocked unconscious (also works if they die)* trigger the effect on the ring that summons a giant spider to protect the party for a few rounds, functionally it's like your skeletons have a 2nd life and turn into spiders when they go down lol, it appears to be reading them as "party members" rather than summons for the effect lol. You get this ring from the stone of ghostly pathways decree I believe. And since the ring is an aura buff, it affects everyone in a 30 yard radius, so dropping like 12 summons from different people is like having a small army of minions that replicate into spiders when they die. Plus it gives everyone in the aura an extra attack of opportunity, just a solid ring, one of the best decree items imo, though gravesinger from rovagug's relic is pretty cool with the cc immunity it offers and expanded crit range.
what makes the skald so op imo is the fact that you can just choose who doesn't accept the inspire rage. It's an absolutely BANANAS skill by itself considering the sheer number increase on a single cast. But you can nullify the negative that you can't cast by just making your casters opt to not take it. The ability just steroids your party into oblivion and literally doesn't have a negative side unless you want it to have lol
I disagree a little about the paladin. Because if you play without mercenaries and don't want your MC to be a skald, then she is the main contender for this role. Both MC paladin and Seelah skald fit together quite well.
6:34 Seelah is a TERRIBLE paladin though! She has 15 starting CHA, the primary stat for paladins, and starts with 2 terrible feats (dodge is useless, shield focus is only good for abusing the mounted shield bug.) You really can't build a much worse level 1 paladin than Seelah. Considering base Paladin is probably the most straightforwardly strong subclass of its archetype, it should be at least A tier. (Martyr is S imo.)
dirge bard made my first play threw trivial crazy good class . started with archeologist didn't relies it takes all the worst parts of both , was suffering threw , watched one of your vides made dirge seems very interesting and holy shit what a change all of a sudden my grp was a bulldozer.
You know what you should've mentioned. Spawn slayer with demon slayer dip literally makes you the doom guy in this game as you can make your fights super trivial
I would actually say that Ecclesitheurge is not as good for the Angel mythic path. Since the main advantage of the Ecclesitheurge is that you get to put your primary Domain's spells into regular spell slots, which would let you cast more spells from other classes. For example, if Madness is your primary Domain, you can put Phantasmal Killer and Weird in your spell slots. But the Angel spells are so good that you don't really need Domain spells.
Great series. Huge thanks to pile this up into one video plus all the hard work. A side note, congrats on the 11k its well deserved. And finally enjoy the rest of the holidays.
In defense of the beast tamer class ... the 5 mastodon to tank are awesome , and having 10 beast companions ( 4+ 5 animal conpanion and 1 trasmuter ) make all the game pretty ez , yeas i was playing in core but i never had problem munching enemies , i'm pumped about the chimeric aspect shifter cause it's the first animal( that you control) that is ranged . Still considering your criteria . Beast tamer bard is a A tier , summons stronger than dirge and you can power them up . More you buff all animal companions and have plenty of songs and spell to do whatever u want .
I am playing a D (Witch Doctor) and cannot really disagree :P Though it is a Shaman [B] with a few less Hexes, but Channel Energy; and I really do not need more Hexes per turn (the Counter Curse sucks though). Glad to hear your conclusion that we can succeed the game with any class (I play with a mix of Daring/Core/Hard options, mainly Core diff.). ( My main will continue as Loremaster though, after a dip in Empyreal Sorcerer.) ( actually, my playthrough is on hold, at the start of Ch. 3 ; just to play other games )
For some reason, I can't play with anyone other than paladin, although the first passage was Azata kineticist, and then somehow imbued with the theme. c:
im currently playing a kitsune 9 tailed heir (5) sylvan trickster rogue (6) arcane trickster (9) and im having fun being invis almost 24/7 and getting sneak attacks with spells, and then going in with my duel wield daggers
Traditional monk and knife master rogue is my favourite class, super swift an able to dish out a bit of damage bite also counts as finisse natural so I chuck in tiefling or orc now
Sohei should be ranked S tier, probably the best 12 level class. Even you limited to 20 lv, you can still make Sohei an archer with 9 attacks and riding a horse. Unlike Zen Archer, Sohei doesn’t forbid you from using rapid shot/manyshot with flurry of blows. So, 4 from full bab + 2 from flurry + 1 from rapid + 1 from manyshot + 1 haste. And extra 1 attack from 2 level dip on Eldritch Archer, if you don’t limit to a single class.
a little wishlist for a DLC or a sequel to a pathfinder game ? like what classes/races do you wish to see implemented from the tabletop to the video game ? what kind of story, mythic path you name it whatever your heart desire ^^
Cool vid, personally, I think sohei is probably the best martial class in the game. Built correctly with most mythic paths and a glaive, you have an unkillable and unhittable mount while your mc has insane dps with loads of attacks. Also with the lich path, gives a horseman of the apocalypse vibes better then other mount classes.
Despite following this channel for some time, and really looking forward to playing WoTR, I somehow managed to miss it’s console release! I was in a car accident the same month so I’ll blame that. Anyway, finally downloading the game now and this list is going to be super helpful! First time is definitely going to be an angel run!
Thank you for the shout-out, brother. Your in-depth analysis helped me understand so much about the complex game, I'm glad I could help you in some small way. Love and Light!
What an amazing journey this has been. I found this video series to be informative and helpful. Thank you for taking the time to rank all of these classes and report back to the community.
Just came across this series, well done. I probably would have rated Swordlord a bit higher as a prestige class, a high D or maybe a low C? Mechanically Deft Strike + Power Attack work well together and its persuasion based abilities seem to me easier to impact enemies then some abilities other classes have. Thematically is where it shines for me since you are leading a crusade and I think of Swordlords as natural leaders. There's also a specific encounter at the Molten Scar where Jannah Aldori gives you a nice Dueling Sword if you are a Swordlord.
Awesome video, straight and to the point, highlighting overall classes and how they stack up. Playing DOS2 currently and will be getting this game next. It does look a little more involved but I'm a big fan of fantasy.
If you want to play paladin, you’d have to double class Seelah into something else, treating her 1 or 2 pally levels as a dip, right. When I started a Wildland Shaman I didn’t see any reason for a second shammy on the team, so Camellia became a demon hunter. So here’s my question: what would you choose for Seelah? War priest, Cleric, Inquisitor or something completely different? Cheers
How is court poet not in S tier. It’s a moral bonus to cha? That’s like the best thing in the game(FTK, Mot) that can be stacked with triumphant advance. You and get a +16 moral bonus to cha and int. incredible with a BFT and an Oracle in your party.
Many classes you put at D Tier are meant to be used with multiclassing. Take Armored Battlemage for example; it's clearly worse than the base Magus. However have you considered kukri dual wielding Armored Battlemage & Knife Master? You would be wearing medium armor, have most of the offensive/defensive wizard spells and have armor training for excellent protection. That's a tankier version of an Eldritch Scoundrel, one that can have a 17-20 critical range with spells due to spell strike and sneak attack on top of that. Similarly Thug & Overwhelming Soul and Psychokineticist & Instinctiual Warrior are quite fun options. Armored Battlemage & Two-handed Fighter is a viable option too. You won't miss Spell Combat if you're dual wielding or using a two-handed weapon.
Hey thanks for the shoutout! This series was awesome, I can't wait to see what you do next. Hahaha and I can't wait to hear your thoughts on Shifter, that might even pass Assassin as the worst class in the game if they keep it true to PNP. It's so bad. Really dig how you came back to the content and acknowledged a few errors while compiling this, that laid back attitude is a big reason I'm enjoying your content so much. You actually changed my mind on the Divine Hound, too. I initially didn't see much in a weak caster with a pet when compared to Druid, but I'm having a ball with this thing. I've watched a few ranking videos, and for sure I seem to agree with you more than anyone on where this stuff all fits on a tier list. Definitely gonna bookmark this for future playthroughs. Thanks man!
Wow! Idon't know many who have done this! The next thing is going over the A and S tiers in depth. I still need to figure out some things. Great info and thanks for adding the comments, shows you care about others input, yet stay firm to what you accept is ideal!
So glad I stumbled upon this channel. I love the fact that you take into account thematic aspects as well as mechanics. Will slowly go through your content. Thanks so much.
Man, making a ranking list for WOTR must be a real pain given the number of class options. You often can't really tell how well a class is going to play in practice until you actually give it a go. You can read up all the class descriptions, but its easy for you to form a misunderstanding on how something works or how useful its going to be. Then ranking based on class level at 20 doesn't tell the whole story because sometimes the class can get a big powerup from dips, sometimes the class is awful until late in the game, and sometimes the class is reliant on other party members to be effective- for example average BAB classes tend to often struggle against high AC enemies, so you might want shattered defenses that'll probably require a bard or someone with frightful aspect.
Well, a tad disappointed that my three favored classes (Grenadier, Kineticist and Sage Sorcerer) all failed to place higher then they did, it has given me some food for thought on other classes to give a shot too even with my large bias toward caster/range play.
Kineticist is amazing, you might want to watch the full video going over that class for more context. I don't like that your entire team has to revolve around you playing that class.
I recruited a demonslayer merc during my first playthrough, she was wielding a longspear and fighting with a big dog (called Buddy). I was shocked when i started my first fight with her because did not expect the dog to be as big as a horse and having more strength than my whole party combined (37 at level 18) and more AC than my main tank tower shield wielding armored hulk (though he had double the health). im halfway sure that she was actually feeding the demons to the damn thing, along with ground beef and steroids. she pretty much became mendatory because the dog had a higher carrying capability than a U-haul (5600 lbs, or 2.8 TONS) and the first time i tried to leave drezen without her my party got instantly crushed by the weight of my greed and essentially couldnt move.
looking at that list reminds me why i love this game. last time i plaid something with soo much variety, i was playing the neverwinter nights games and i didn't see anything like this since than. thank you for this video and let's hope we get another mythic path out of a potential third seasonpass.
Big fan of your channel! I like how you go in depth with pros & cons of each class. Something else I really appreciate is your videos of the more challenging puzzles & how to solve them.
My Kineticist specific video delves into this more but essentially your entire party has to revolve around the fact that you are a Kineticist. You cannot just plug them into the group and that lowers their rating. Basically they are too powerful. LOL
Can confirm, this list will 100% require an updated version (or it has one, and I'm blind), because classes like Assassin and such- which requiring a Mythic Ability to even function, is definitely much better nowadays.
I know this is very late, but I was looking through for info, and noticed something. Divine Hunter is listed twice on the B-ranked classes - I'm guessing #93 is the Hunter version, while #118 is the Paladin version?
Somebody play this game on play station? Because have problem. After throwing one bomb that become basic mode of attack for my Alchemist, and when point cursor on enemy bomb icon shows instead of standard attack. Any way to force attack from crossbow? Because when enemy come close to tank, and i throw explosive she often die too.
Loremaster belongs in the 10 for the sole "I don't have to get you your goddamn pages, Storyteller, to glue the Lexicon" alone, nevermind all the versatility it brings to the initial class😅
Can I ask did they change winter witch that its a B? because the only reason you would take it is if you took a shaman or witch spec that didn't have max hexes to max them out and carry through spell progression. Also its capstone is worthless when you consider ascended element and its ability to ignore resistances entirely. So the only reason you would take it from a combat standpoint is for the additional spell levels on cold spells but here is the thing you could get a lot more damage from a duel bloodline sorcerer and get a 3rd bloodline from mythic paths. So I don't see any reason for winter witch being that high outside of maybe its theme.
The theme is exactly why it's rated higher. Winter Witch is a very popular playstyle and no other class let's you roleplay that better. In my video about the class I make it clear the mechanics are very mediocre.
Elemental specialist wizard into arcane trickster is an S tier blaster. It broke casters for me in this game, any other type of caster just seems underwhelming
It's a little amusing that Student of War ranks higher than Master of All. It sounds very typical lol. The guy who claims to be "Master of All" ends up being the least helpful dude on the street. The one who's calls themself a student ends up being more useful. I know nothing of the actuall classes and am just commenting on the names :p
As a pen and paper Pathfinder player I could list a few issues with your choices, but I won't apart from to say standard Dragon Disciple is cool but... you definately overrate it. Also Archaeologist Bard is immense, a floating luck bonus to just about everything and the bard spell list mean you can fulfil a huge variety of roles.
Hi I'm playing through wotr and I'm having..... a problem, basically I used hilor to "hire" a mercenary ,i.e. create a custom party character, and made em into a kineticist earth/fire build atm ,lvl13-14, 11 max burn, my problem is that I should be able to use magma blade but it's blacked out and I can't use it but I can use magma wall with pushing n bowling infusions as well as maximize and empower metakinesis if I toggle on gather power low but I've tried every possible combination of things to try and use magma kinetic blade and the game still refuses to let me use it even when I push the burn to zero, please I need help
I always get loremaster rogue improved improved critical and improved improved improved critical, basically just extra 2crit range without being trickster
Excellent summary to an excellent series! ! ! Albeit I'd argue for Crusader being higher (Top 5 for sure). From a RP point this is the ultimate class for WotR. Hope you are safe. Heard Chicago was hit bad.
I've just came back to this game after a while away from it and I recalled seeing your videos a while ago. Did you change your channel's name? Because I swear it was something different. Either that or old age is finally catching up with me. xD
Elemental engine - B. :))) A class that starting from level 13 solo destroying everything in 1-2 rounds :))) Before lvl 13 oneshot most of the monsters from range 50 , and after initiation of combat start it 1st to high initiative so minus 2 enemys in round 1 :))) Nice joke.
@@SlanderedGaming Wonder why? The usual kinetics is much worse, there is no constant haste buff, or slowing down enemies from water, and it deals about 25% less damage :)))
What if I dont like Seelah? She is not like any the personality I give my paladin Ah well. Still a good list. I went Oracle anyway for tenth level spells
I completely agree with placing Demonslayer at the top-spot. I can remember sitting in a Session Zero for the Giantslayer AP that I was getting ready to GM for my home crew (we finished about a year ago, had a great time) and saying "If anyone decides to play a dwarven ranger with favored enemy giant, just be aware that I'm going to throw everything but the kitchen sink at that character, because that's just cheating". Thankfully, no one grabbed that combo 🙂
I was so excited when I saw my name on the shout out list that I had to run tell my wife who was in the middle of a shower haha. Echoing what Lashrath said: than you so much for all the time and effort you put into this content. Indespensable as far as I'm concerned.
Apreciate what you do my dude, you and Crpg bro keep this super niche game alive and fun, in my humble opinion tho, only kineticist stand alone at number one, maybe not lore wise but got damn is it powerfull!
@@SlanderedGaming make five kineticist mercs or play solo. You could add that the class isnt great in a party but sure hell is power. It can do all of the game by itself, and it doesnt need much to start snowballing
Man, this has been one hell of a journey, huh? You talking about the sorcerer made me remember how the first CRPG I ever played was Baldur's Gate 2, back in 2001 as barely a teenager. I picked sorcerer even though it was sorta a weird bastardization because the system was still a modified 2nd edition but 3rd had already been released and they took a few ideas to hybridize. It was new and the idea of not needing to prepare exact amounts of spells, just learning them and choosing as I use them was appealing. Good times. That was back when CRPGs still felt magical to me. Your enthusiasm and positivity make watching your videos always enjoyable man, and your consistent interaction in the comments is a huge plus that you can't get from larger channels. I can't wait to see what you come out with next, hope you have an absolutely fantastic new year!
HK Sig 5 level dip plus DD 4 level dip is extremely strong imo, since HK Sig is a spellcaster who probably wants to be in the thick of things. Using the Order of the Gate, you can wear Adamantine Full-Plate without penalty to casting, and DD will give you a lot of bonuses to base stats that are excellent to a melee caster. You also only lose 1 caster level, because HK Sig is full casting progression, making a merged Lich still viable
There are two Divine Hunter's in the game. One is a Paladin and one is a Hunter. I specifically talk about the Hunter version so the other is clearly Paladin.
Yeah, animal companions win out for me, thanks to all the stuff they add to the game in a mechanical sense. That and my first playthru of 'Beneath the Stolen Lands' was 6 sacred huntsmen, and having 6 leopards whom the enemy could not hit thanks to teamwork buffs, mixed with humans peppering them with arrows made that fun. Not as useful here since they nerfed a lot of the Companion power to make the equipment more useful, and to be fair, my single leopard was able to hit for 50+ damage with every attack, had several attacks per round, and moved at 100+ feet per round, that little lady tore through everything. Regardless, I do like that you admit biases here, while also explaining the picks when you feel they might be seen as off, placing emphasis on that these are YOUR picks, but also wanting people to understand WHY they are your picks. Very well presented, very well done.
This has been a really fun series. There's a ton of class rankings out there that focus purely on character optimization, it's really awesome to see a ranking that actually takes theme, content, and coolness into account. Especially in a game with basically infinitely scalable difficulty that stuff matters a ton to how enjoyable and replayable the game is and you did a great job incorporating it without ignoring mechanical viability.l
He even takes into account the likelihood a class would be useful or fill a gap. Eg the comment about Seelah making Paladin less necessary. It really rung true for me.
@@asw654 especially cause some companions probably aren't leaving if you want to make your KC their class anyways. Like if you're playing Pally, then Seelah ain't gonna leave you in Act 5, since any Mythic Path that would cause her to leave is ineligible for keeping Pally privileges
I watched every video. Thanks for all your hard work and happy holidays.
Thank you so much! Happy Holidays!
Definitely the best channel on this game :)
Thank you!
Awesome video. Now my proposal: best alternative classes for companions.
My hot take,
Seelah -skald with a focus on shields
Camellia -crusader cleric
Wenduag -ranged slayer
Lann -divine hound
Woljif -incense synthesizer
Ember -sorcerer
Nenio -rowdy
Sosiel -Ecclesitheurge
Regil - sohei Monk
Daeren- thundercaller bard
I can keep my hot take going if this message gets traction
I second this suggestion. I was going to suggest exactly the same.
Please don't take this as "the crowd is never satisfied". The series was BANANAS and we all appreciate your work and effort. If you feel like creating more content like this, alternative classes (or builds) would be nice.
how the hell does rowdy nenio make sense
It's nice to see someone that actually ranks these clases and archetypes based on more than optimisation or "what can it do with a dip". I personally generaly pick classes based on theme more than what's optimal. That's not to say I'd pick the worst class and leave it as is, but that I prefer a thematic build more than min-maxed bs that makes no sense to me. This is the reason why I go Steelblood into Hellknight. Everyone says you should just pick Primalist and that's it. But, as a bloodrager enjoyer, it's nice to be able to multiclass into something that the world actually reacts to.
Just started playing Wrath now, its a good time as I wait for BG3 to patch up a little bit more before I begin that incredible looking game.
Its really amazing the amount of info you have here for this game!
I'm starting with this one to get a feel for all the many classes in WotR
Thanks again..
My pleasure!
Thank YOU for having provided entertainment to us over these months. Actualy more than a year now isn't it? May you have happy holidays and a magnificent new year- and a lot of fun making these videos in the future too. Cheers!
This was a fantastic series! I especially love the fact you took RP, reactivity and theme into account for these rankings. Too often guides like this only care about mechanics and anything that doesn't break the game is trash lol. Anybody who wants help with the game as a newbie or a returning player who is trying to figure out what has changed via patches should use this series as a guide in my book.
Ayo, this was a ride and was what brought me to your channel to begin with. Can't wait to see where you go from here, my dude. Here's to your future!
Your list is close to mine, but the difficulty setting I play on is different so I have a different perspective (I play pretty much exclusively on unfair).
I'd have ranked demonslayer maybe a little lower (it is still an S tier for me for sure), while cleric paladin and gendarme a bit higher, but its fairly close to your list honestly. Best class in the game is a very hard thing to rank or consider with how many classes are in the entire game, but if I was pushed to shove on #1 class, it'd probably be brown fur transmuter, and not for the main character, but as a merc.
The base cleric does have some things going for it over ecclisatheurge. It can wear a shield and medium armor and there are some very powerful shields (cold bite) and medium armors (hide of elemental carnage) that an ecclisatheurge cant wear, but base cleric can without any need for feats. Base cleric still has the same amount of domains as well. Crusader is harder to rank because its almost completely different than ecc/cleric being almost exclusively martial focused while the other two lean more towards being caster focused. All three of these classes are strong, and deserve an A or higher ranking from me for sure (not sure why you put cleric at C tier, it really is a strong class).
Gendarme is kinda like the S tier of cavalier. Its feat progression is similar in vein to that of a primalist, in that it trades teamwork feats for combat feats, and this is almost always better. I really wanted to roll a beast rider but was turned off by its bonus feats mostly being teamwork only feats :(
Court poet also is S tier because it gives a morale bonus to int and cha which is nearly impossible to get and almost always will stack with your casters. It also raises his own DC over other skalds when he casts spells, and the majority of skald spells are evocation/enchantment based which love having higher DC. It is equivalent on the same level as skald to me if you're running a caster heavy party it will scale them through the roof. My court poet weirdly enough uses a staff and does nothing but sing and cast confuse / shouts with the odd displacement or invisibility thrown in to help my front line. When fighting undead I swap to a bow on him. One last note, his song not only improves your casters capabilities, but improves monk evasion rate, and most importantly, your smite evils from paladins. A court poet buffing and supporting a few paladins is devastating.
Lastly, paladins. A tier minimum but most likely S tier. Cant speak enough about how strong paladins are. In most situations they're stronger than even your #1 demonslayer. Bless weapon is one of the strongest buffs a martial can have applied and is absolutely bonkers (which by the way, rangers dont get access to unfortunately. I think its a paladin and glory domain exclusive spell), and in combination with smite and mark of justice its just too good in a campaign devoted to 90+% evil enemies you fight. Full pet progression too is just icing on the cake. The only thing people laud about paladins that I dont is their inherent saves. On unfair, saves don't honestly matter that much (even in guarded hearth my paladins are still getting hit by things like phantasmal putrefaction and other nasty aoes). Maybe on an easier difficulty these things would matter but I don't include this as on unfair it doesn't change a thing lol.
Salud to you my man you have helped me under stand the game more. Of course sparked my thirst to replay this game multiple times!!
Excellent work. Very entertaining and professionally scripted.
I may have mentioned this before in a previous video, but I'm grateful for your content. I have over 500+ hours in the game but I've only beaten the game once because I'm so indecisive about what class to play. Your list has really helped me out and made me realize I don't need to do some crazy build with 3 lvl dips in other classes just to beat the game on core difficulty. I've started coming up with my own builds and not just following the cookie-cutter ones I've found online and I'm having much more fun with the game.
Thank you! Glad the content has been helpful for you!
@@SlanderedGaming There's a fun interaction with the Clemency of Shadows ring and summons, i've noticed that any skeleton's / minions I summon that get *knocked unconscious (also works if they die)* trigger the effect on the ring that summons a giant spider to protect the party for a few rounds, functionally it's like your skeletons have a 2nd life and turn into spiders when they go down lol, it appears to be reading them as "party members" rather than summons for the effect lol. You get this ring from the stone of ghostly pathways decree I believe. And since the ring is an aura buff, it affects everyone in a 30 yard radius, so dropping like 12 summons from different people is like having a small army of minions that replicate into spiders when they die. Plus it gives everyone in the aura an extra attack of opportunity, just a solid ring, one of the best decree items imo, though gravesinger from rovagug's relic is pretty cool with the cc immunity it offers and expanded crit range.
what makes the skald so op imo is the fact that you can just choose who doesn't accept the inspire rage. It's an absolutely BANANAS skill by itself considering the sheer number increase on a single cast. But you can nullify the negative that you can't cast by just making your casters opt to not take it. The ability just steroids your party into oblivion and literally doesn't have a negative side unless you want it to have lol
I disagree a little about the paladin. Because if you play without mercenaries and don't want your MC to be a skald, then she is the main contender for this role. Both MC paladin and Seelah skald fit together quite well.
6:34 Seelah is a TERRIBLE paladin though! She has 15 starting CHA, the primary stat for paladins, and starts with 2 terrible feats (dodge is useless, shield focus is only good for abusing the mounted shield bug.) You really can't build a much worse level 1 paladin than Seelah. Considering base Paladin is probably the most straightforwardly strong subclass of its archetype, it should be at least A tier. (Martyr is S imo.)
Seelah is NOT a "terrible" Paladin! 😂😂 I will not allow such slander to slide sir.
I go nowhere without Seelah!
dirge bard made my first play threw trivial crazy good class . started with archeologist didn't relies it takes all the worst parts of both , was suffering threw , watched one of your vides made dirge seems very interesting and holy shit what a change all of a sudden my grp was a bulldozer.
Awesome glad you liked it!
I've really enjoyed this entire series. And I agree that Dragon Disciple is S from a great kit + great rp potential.
A really good job here. A lot of this is personal opinion, but nevertheless, a wonderful compilation.
You know what you should've mentioned. Spawn slayer with demon slayer dip literally makes you the doom guy in this game as you can make your fights super trivial
I consider the Brown Fur Transmuter to be the best class. Having one will completely change the difficulty of the game.
I would actually say that Ecclesitheurge is not as good for the Angel mythic path. Since the main advantage of the Ecclesitheurge is that you get to put your primary Domain's spells into regular spell slots, which would let you cast more spells from other classes. For example, if Madness is your primary Domain, you can put Phantasmal Killer and Weird in your spell slots. But the Angel spells are so good that you don't really need Domain spells.
Great series. Huge thanks to pile this up into one video plus all the hard work.
A side note, congrats on the 11k its well deserved. And finally enjoy the rest of the holidays.
In defense of the beast tamer class ... the 5 mastodon to tank are awesome , and having 10 beast companions ( 4+ 5 animal conpanion and 1 trasmuter ) make all the game pretty ez , yeas i was playing in core but i never had problem munching enemies , i'm pumped about the chimeric aspect shifter cause it's the first animal( that you control) that is ranged . Still considering your criteria . Beast tamer bard is a A tier , summons stronger than dirge and you can power them up . More you buff all animal companions and have plenty of songs and spell to do whatever u want .
Interesting I might give that class a whirl one day.
I am playing a D (Witch Doctor) and cannot really disagree :P Though it is a Shaman [B] with a few less Hexes, but Channel Energy; and I really do not need more Hexes per turn (the Counter Curse sucks though). Glad to hear your conclusion that we can succeed the game with any class (I play with a mix of Daring/Core/Hard options, mainly Core diff.).
( My main will continue as Loremaster though, after a dip in Empyreal Sorcerer.)
( actually, my playthrough is on hold, at the start of Ch. 3 ; just to play other games )
seeker sorcerer rank S? why? oh, and merry christmas, helpful vid even when i wouldn´t agree with everything😁
For some reason, I can't play with anyone other than paladin, although the first passage was Azata kineticist, and then somehow imbued with the theme. c:
im currently playing a kitsune 9 tailed heir (5) sylvan trickster rogue (6) arcane trickster (9) and im having fun being invis almost 24/7 and getting sneak attacks with spells, and then going in with my duel wield daggers
Traditional monk and knife master rogue is my favourite class, super swift an able to dish out a bit of damage bite also counts as finisse natural so I chuck in tiefling or orc now
Sohei should be ranked S tier, probably the best 12 level class. Even you limited to 20 lv, you can still make Sohei an archer with 9 attacks and riding a horse. Unlike Zen Archer, Sohei doesn’t forbid you from using rapid shot/manyshot with flurry of blows. So, 4 from full bab + 2 from flurry + 1 from rapid + 1 from manyshot + 1 haste. And extra 1 attack from 2 level dip on Eldritch Archer, if you don’t limit to a single class.
a little wishlist for a DLC or a sequel to a pathfinder game ?
like what classes/races do you wish to see implemented from the tabletop to the video game ?
what kind of story, mythic path you name it
whatever your heart desire ^^
Skald boosts melee. 4/6 chars or more are range, often.
Cool vid, personally, I think sohei is probably the best martial class in the game. Built correctly with most mythic paths and a glaive, you have an unkillable and unhittable mount while your mc has insane dps with loads of attacks. Also with the lich path, gives a horseman of the apocalypse vibes better then other mount classes.
I have not completed the game. I mostly loose interest about the middle of chapter 3. But I like your content very much. Thx for your work.
Despite following this channel for some time, and really looking forward to playing WoTR, I somehow managed to miss it’s console release! I was in a car accident the same month so I’ll blame that. Anyway, finally downloading the game now and this list is going to be super helpful! First time is definitely going to be an angel run!
Sorry to hear about the car crash, hope you are doing much better!
Thank you for the shout-out, brother. Your in-depth analysis helped me understand so much about the complex game, I'm glad I could help you in some small way. Love and Light!
The series is super helpful！
Will you make a video about good class combo for level dipping? I like the multi class concept of this game
Yup that's something I'll definitely get around to.
What an amazing journey this has been. I found this video series to be informative and helpful. Thank you for taking the time to rank all of these classes and report back to the community.
Is there an updated video of this?
Just came across this series, well done. I probably would have rated Swordlord a bit higher as a prestige class, a high D or maybe a low C? Mechanically Deft Strike + Power Attack work well together and its persuasion based abilities seem to me easier to impact enemies then some abilities other classes have.
Thematically is where it shines for me since you are leading a crusade and I think of Swordlords as natural leaders. There's also a specific encounter at the Molten Scar where Jannah Aldori gives you a nice Dueling Sword if you are a Swordlord.
Oh wow didn't now there was Swordlord reactivity thank you!
Awesome video, straight and to the point, highlighting overall classes and how they stack up. Playing DOS2 currently and will be getting this game next. It does look a little more involved but I'm a big fan of fantasy.
I’m grabbing DOS2 soon also I grabbed this one as it was on sale along with kingmaker
If you want to play paladin, you’d have to double class Seelah into something else, treating her 1 or 2 pally levels as a dip, right.
When I started a Wildland Shaman I didn’t see any reason for a second shammy on the team, so Camellia became a demon hunter.
So here’s my question: what would you choose for Seelah? War priest, Cleric, Inquisitor or something completely different?
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How is court poet not in S tier. It’s a moral bonus to cha? That’s like the best thing in the game(FTK, Mot) that can be stacked with triumphant advance. You and get a +16 moral bonus to cha and int. incredible with a BFT and an Oracle in your party.
Many classes you put at D Tier are meant to be used with multiclassing. Take Armored Battlemage for example; it's clearly worse than the base Magus. However have you considered kukri dual wielding Armored Battlemage & Knife Master? You would be wearing medium armor, have most of the offensive/defensive wizard spells and have armor training for excellent protection. That's a tankier version of an Eldritch Scoundrel, one that can have a 17-20 critical range with spells due to spell strike and sneak attack on top of that. Similarly Thug & Overwhelming Soul and Psychokineticist & Instinctiual Warrior are quite fun options. Armored Battlemage & Two-handed Fighter is a viable option too. You won't miss Spell Combat if you're dual wielding or using a two-handed weapon.
Hey thanks for the shoutout! This series was awesome, I can't wait to see what you do next. Hahaha and I can't wait to hear your thoughts on Shifter, that might even pass Assassin as the worst class in the game if they keep it true to PNP. It's so bad.
Really dig how you came back to the content and acknowledged a few errors while compiling this, that laid back attitude is a big reason I'm enjoying your content so much. You actually changed my mind on the Divine Hound, too. I initially didn't see much in a weak caster with a pet when compared to Druid, but I'm having a ball with this thing. I've watched a few ranking videos, and for sure I seem to agree with you more than anyone on where this stuff all fits on a tier list. Definitely gonna bookmark this for future playthroughs. Thanks man!
Genuine applause for an amazing series!
Wow! Idon't know many who have done this! The next thing is going over the A and S tiers in depth. I still need to figure out some things. Great info and thanks for adding the comments, shows you care about others input, yet stay firm to what you accept is ideal!
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video subscribed!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Sorcerer being number 3? I'm in act 3 on my first playthrough, I don't feel like I picked the number 3 class yet >
So glad I stumbled upon this channel. I love the fact that you take into account thematic aspects as well as mechanics. Will slowly go through your content. Thanks so much.
Hey, congrats! You made it through all 199, great job!
Man, making a ranking list for WOTR must be a real pain given the number of class options. You often can't really tell how well a class is going to play in practice until you actually give it a go. You can read up all the class descriptions, but its easy for you to form a misunderstanding on how something works or how useful its going to be. Then ranking based on class level at 20 doesn't tell the whole story because sometimes the class can get a big powerup from dips, sometimes the class is awful until late in the game, and sometimes the class is reliant on other party members to be effective- for example average BAB classes tend to often struggle against high AC enemies, so you might want shattered defenses that'll probably require a bard or someone with frightful aspect.
Yeah it's not a simple task at all. LOL
Well, a tad disappointed that my three favored classes (Grenadier, Kineticist and Sage Sorcerer) all failed to place higher then they did, it has given me some food for thought on other classes to give a shot too even with my large bias toward caster/range play.
Kineticist is amazing, you might want to watch the full video going over that class for more context. I don't like that your entire team has to revolve around you playing that class.
I recruited a demonslayer merc during my first playthrough, she was wielding a longspear and fighting with a big dog (called Buddy). I was shocked when i started my first fight with her because did not expect the dog to be as big as a horse and having more strength than my whole party combined (37 at level 18) and more AC than my main tank tower shield wielding armored hulk (though he had double the health). im halfway sure that she was actually feeding the demons to the damn thing, along with ground beef and steroids.
she pretty much became mendatory because the dog had a higher carrying capability than a U-haul (5600 lbs, or 2.8 TONS) and the first time i tried to leave drezen without her my party got instantly crushed by the weight of my greed and essentially couldnt move.
Yup it's hard to go wrong with that class.
Good work! Merry Christmas!
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hello watching the video 2 years later, i do not agree with the pally, imunity + divine graces is a game changer for anny class Mr. Smite go hard XD
looking at that list reminds me why i love this game. last time i plaid something with soo much variety, i was playing the neverwinter nights games and i didn't see anything like this since than. thank you for this video and let's hope we get another mythic path out of a potential third seasonpass.
My personal favorite is the sword saint class. Give me an estoc, and everything dies 😊
Big fan of your channel! I like how you go in depth with pros & cons of each class. Something else I really appreciate is your videos of the more challenging puzzles & how to solve them.
Not understanding how the Kineticist is not in the top 5. It is probably does the most damage of any class.
My Kineticist specific video delves into this more but essentially your entire party has to revolve around the fact that you are a Kineticist. You cannot just plug them into the group and that lowers their rating. Basically they are too powerful. LOL
Can confirm, this list will 100% require an updated version (or it has one, and I'm blind), because classes like Assassin and such- which requiring a Mythic Ability to even function, is definitely much better nowadays.
Yeah at some point I might circle back and redo it with consideration for all the updates.
199 ????????????????? WTF ! Is there a "Dancing Strong Roach" class ? Dam !
I know this is very late, but I was looking through for info, and noticed something. Divine Hunter is listed twice on the B-ranked classes - I'm guessing #93 is the Hunter version, while #118 is the Paladin version?
Yup correct.
Except Angel-Oracle Slaps everything ... So not sure where the ranking comes from. Or is this specifically without Angel/Lich merges?
These rankings are based on how the classes perform on their own and not synergy with a particular mythic path.
Somebody play this game on play station? Because have problem. After throwing one bomb that become basic mode of attack for my Alchemist, and when point cursor on enemy bomb icon shows instead of standard attack. Any way to force attack from crossbow? Because when enemy come close to tank, and i throw explosive she often die too.
Do you have an auto attack set to Bombs? If so turn that off and it will allow you to attack with your weapon.
Don't forget to come back and put shifter dead last when they add it in the next DLC lmfao what a joke decision to add that class
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Loremaster belongs in the 10 for the sole "I don't have to get you your goddamn pages, Storyteller, to glue the Lexicon" alone, nevermind all the versatility it brings to the initial class😅
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Can I ask did they change winter witch that its a B? because the only reason you would take it is if you took a shaman or witch spec that didn't have max hexes to max them out and carry through spell progression. Also its capstone is worthless when you consider ascended element and its ability to ignore resistances entirely. So the only reason you would take it from a combat standpoint is for the additional spell levels on cold spells but here is the thing you could get a lot more damage from a duel bloodline sorcerer and get a 3rd bloodline from mythic paths. So I don't see any reason for winter witch being that high outside of maybe its theme.
The theme is exactly why it's rated higher. Winter Witch is a very popular playstyle and no other class let's you roleplay that better. In my video about the class I make it clear the mechanics are very mediocre.
Throws arcane trickster in C. Acts like nothing crazy just happened. Really enjoying your List! Going to keep watching.
LOL Glad you are enjoying it!
Elemental specialist wizard into arcane trickster is an S tier blaster. It broke casters for me in this game, any other type of caster just seems underwhelming
It's a little amusing that Student of War ranks higher than Master of All.
It sounds very typical lol. The guy who claims to be "Master of All" ends up being the least helpful dude on the street. The one who's calls themself a student ends up being more useful.
I know nothing of the actuall classes and am just commenting on the names :p
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As a pen and paper Pathfinder player I could list a few issues with your choices, but I won't apart from to say standard Dragon Disciple is cool but... you definately overrate it. Also Archaeologist Bard is immense, a floating luck bonus to just about everything and the bard spell list mean you can fulfil a huge variety of roles.
Hi I'm playing through wotr and I'm having..... a problem, basically I used hilor to "hire" a mercenary ,i.e. create a custom party character, and made em into a kineticist earth/fire build atm ,lvl13-14, 11 max burn, my problem is that I should be able to use magma blade but it's blacked out and I can't use it but I can use magma wall with pushing n bowling infusions as well as maximize and empower metakinesis if I toggle on gather power low but I've tried every possible combination of things to try and use magma kinetic blade and the game still refuses to let me use it even when I push the burn to zero, please I need help
Sorry I haven't played around with Magma Blade at all so not sure why it wouldn't be working.
I always get loremaster rogue improved improved critical and improved improved improved critical, basically just extra 2crit range without being trickster
Incense Syntsizer DESPERATELY need a visual for the Incense. It is THE Plague Doctor Class and a S+ for that fact alone.
Hey Slandered, I may be blind but I don't see a build video for the last undead companion, the Bard one. The spoilerino one.
Interesting I think you are right, I must have never gotten around to it. I plan to update all the old builds so I'll be sure to touch on it thanks.
@@SlanderedGaming Yay! I'm not crazy!
Excellent summary to an excellent series! ! ! Albeit I'd argue for Crusader being higher (Top 5 for sure). From a RP point this is the ultimate class for WotR.
Hope you are safe. Heard Chicago was hit bad.
I am a swordsaint azatha, playing wotr for the first time. will try wizard/sorcerer/demonslayer on my next playthrough.
I've just came back to this game after a while away from it and I recalled seeing your videos a while ago. Did you change your channel's name? Because I swear it was something different. Either that or old age is finally catching up with me. xD
Welcome back! The channel used to be my full name but my wife asked me to change it after I hit 1K subscribers.
@@SlanderedGaming That's fair. Any amount of online popularity is potentially going to draw attention.
Elemental engine - B. :))) A class that starting from level 13 solo destroying everything in 1-2 rounds :))) Before lvl 13 oneshot most of the monsters from range 50 , and after initiation of combat start it 1st to high initiative so minus 2 enemys in round 1 :))) Nice joke.
It's a B compared to Kineticist.
@@SlanderedGaming Wonder why? The usual kinetics is much worse, there is no constant haste buff, or slowing down enemies from water, and it deals about 25% less damage :)))
Hey man appreciate the content of course. Are these rankings based on going 1-20 as a pure class? Sorry if I missed that point.
What if I dont like Seelah? She is not like any the personality I give my paladin
Ah well. Still a good list. I went Oracle anyway for tenth level spells
I completely agree with placing Demonslayer at the top-spot. I can remember sitting in a Session Zero for the Giantslayer AP that I was getting ready to GM for my home crew (we finished about a year ago, had a great time) and saying "If anyone decides to play a dwarven ranger with favored enemy giant, just be aware that I'm going to throw everything but the kitchen sink at that character, because that's just cheating". Thankfully, no one grabbed that combo 🙂
playing with exploiter wizard be like 24h haste and firebrand lol
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Just curious, where do you think sorcerer falls after the nerfs to bag of tricky, chain lightning, and multiple draconian bloodlines?
Sorceror's are still S tier it's just that blaster casters aren't quite as dominant as they used to be.
@@SlanderedGaming Thanks for the reply!
I was so excited when I saw my name on the shout out list that I had to run tell my wife who was in the middle of a shower haha. Echoing what Lashrath said: than you so much for all the time and effort you put into this content. Indespensable as far as I'm concerned.
A Demonslayer Demon has to be one of the most oddly fitting combos in gaming.
LOL True that.
Blade for demons?
Apreciate what you do my dude, you and Crpg bro keep this super niche game alive and fun, in my humble opinion tho, only kineticist stand alone at number one, maybe not lore wise but got damn is it powerfull!
Wut, kineticist is only an A?
Kineticist is bat shit crazy power, can just wreck everything in the game easily solo unfair
Yes but that power requires that you make the entire team hang back and stay out the way. I hate that and it makes me rank the class lower.
@@SlanderedGaming make five kineticist mercs or play solo.
You could add that the class isnt great in a party but sure hell is power. It can do all of the game by itself, and it doesnt need much to start snowballing
Man, this has been one hell of a journey, huh? You talking about the sorcerer made me remember how the first CRPG I ever played was Baldur's Gate 2, back in 2001 as barely a teenager. I picked sorcerer even though it was sorta a weird bastardization because the system was still a modified 2nd edition but 3rd had already been released and they took a few ideas to hybridize. It was new and the idea of not needing to prepare exact amounts of spells, just learning them and choosing as I use them was appealing. Good times. That was back when CRPGs still felt magical to me.
Your enthusiasm and positivity make watching your videos always enjoyable man, and your consistent interaction in the comments is a huge plus that you can't get from larger channels. I can't wait to see what you come out with next, hope you have an absolutely fantastic new year!
HK Sig 5 level dip plus DD 4 level dip is extremely strong imo, since HK Sig is a spellcaster who probably wants to be in the thick of things. Using the Order of the Gate, you can wear Adamantine Full-Plate without penalty to casting, and DD will give you a lot of bonuses to base stats that are excellent to a melee caster. You also only lose 1 caster level, because HK Sig is full casting progression, making a merged Lich still viable
Your comment about Seelah is very insightful and I appreciate the thought you put into that.
Instinctual warrior for a Goku playthrough coming up.
Kimetsu no Yaiba Classes get big W lol , good work Sladered
ORC >TWO HANDED FIGHTER>SPAWN SLAYER>DEMON = GOD
Well NOW I want to do an Assassin Gold Dragon Solo on Unfair run. I will embrace p a i n.
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16:13 yep yep, i wholeheartedly agree. its like when harry potter steps into the wand shop for the first time.
You're incredible for recognizing me, I love the content please keep it up and I can't wait to see what comes I the future!
You have divine hunter listed twice. 93 and 118
There are two Divine Hunter's in the game. One is a Paladin and one is a Hunter. I specifically talk about the Hunter version so the other is clearly Paladin.
Thanks for the thanks. Happy new year and I look forward to whatever you come out with next.
Yeah, animal companions win out for me, thanks to all the stuff they add to the game in a mechanical sense. That and my first playthru of 'Beneath the Stolen Lands' was 6 sacred huntsmen, and having 6 leopards whom the enemy could not hit thanks to teamwork buffs, mixed with humans peppering them with arrows made that fun.
Not as useful here since they nerfed a lot of the Companion power to make the equipment more useful, and to be fair, my single leopard was able to hit for 50+ damage with every attack, had several attacks per round, and moved at 100+ feet per round, that little lady tore through everything.
Regardless, I do like that you admit biases here, while also explaining the picks when you feel they might be seen as off, placing emphasis on that these are YOUR picks, but also wanting people to understand WHY they are your picks. Very well presented, very well done.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!