Excellent Seg. I'm just a poor talented amateur. I have to make due with HF parts boxes for the most part. There are a lot of tools in Kazan foam in those boxes. Two design idea's I got from others were #1) Have everything you need for a tool together with that tool, even if you need to have duplicates support items such as bits and tips. #2 From your primary work locations in your shop, have what you use the most within concentric circles of use; such as arms reach, one step, and beyond for occasional use. Now do the same for secondary tools or locations. For nuts and bolts, I have parts boxes for various sizes such as 1/4", 3/8", other. Works really well.
One thing I never really thought about for kaizen foam until I got a sheet free as packing material for my systainers was... you can store tools vertically in it. I thought it would take up a ton of space, but unless you actually stack tools multiple layers deep, then that space is unusable space, but also, you can now stack tools that take up horizontal space in a shallow box, vertically, or diagonally with multiple tools in layers. And it's fragile enough, you can just ram the shafts of router bits through it. Before I got on kaizen I thought they were goody with all the spread out tools, but in retrospect, it's just the guys making videos that are USING the foam goofy. If my box is 4-5 inches deep, I want 4-5 inches, vertical, of tool storage. my batteries, my torpedo level, my scribes, my miter gauge, my bits, my blades, all store vertically now, whereas if they were loose, they just fell over, consolidated into a mess, and prevented me from closing the boxes as they worked their way under my jigsaw, or my stud finder, or my drill. Now, I have more stuff in the boxes and it stores fine.
If you have a 3d printer, you can print out custom sized bins for both the sortainer/tackle box system, as well as the Bott bins from the Sys3 organizers. I've also been working on a model of the Sys3 grid base, I have 150x150mm lego grid bases that I can fill the bottom of ordinary cabinet drawers with, that the Sys3 bins sit on top of so they don't tip or slide in the drawer.
You can also print out the the white festool sustainer holders in the cabinets. They don't slide like the expensive ones festool makes but they a match to the nonsliding ones festool makes. I'm all about spending good money on their accurate tools but they go insane on every little plastic part you want to upgrade or replace. YOu can literally make it yourself for .12 cents and they want $20 for it. In that regard, just 3D print any plastic insert or moving part you can.
Being organised massively reduces stress, makes you money, saves time and makes it easier to transport kit about. Re. the cost, it quickly costs when you need to go offsite for something or can’t find something.
Sedge, incredible organizational wall. That said, I think the time and money to get organized came with a huge cost to your time and money. When I was at the War College a retired Colonel (Ray Porter) told me that “when your stuff needs stuff you have to much stuff!”😃
You've done many great videos. This is one of your best! When people tell me how expensive Festool Systainers are, I always ask them how they pay for being unorganized. Good tools aren't cheap, cheap tools aren't good.
Good stuff! Especially labeling inside that’s a whole new level. Last year I remade all my sys labels by printing out new ones and laminating them ising a small business card / postcard size laminator. Needs a little trim to fit but looks great and I could color code things as well which makes things easier to find. Really appreciate the videos man, keep up the good work !!
Very interesting and creative. I prefer French cleats, magnetic bars and Akro-Mills parts boxes as I like to display and see most of my tools and the parts boxes are ideal for the hundreds of fasteners and small items. See, grab and go to work suits me best.
Dang man I am JEALOUS!!! Great setup you have there. I was saying yesterday that my shop is nearer a disaster zone than a shop. It's a working shop, always something going on, but it's getting to the point where I need to do a day or two of major organizing.
Dude. It was wonderful seeing under your workstation but wish I could see the rest of those drawers to see the rest of the tools and how you grouped them, sedge. What a tease😂
I love sorting out my shop and using the labelling machine. Glad to see I’m not the only one. It’s so nice to know where everything is. Only problem is that the drawers and containers eventually get super expensive eventually. Nice job Sedge!!!
The year is 2056. My grand kids are walking around a car boot sale with their mum(my daughter) they see a yellows and battered sortania with a load of threaded t nuts and strips of corroded beads and odd glue sticks. The seller says “free to a good home”
I’m constantly moving Sortainers and Systainers on wheeled trolleys. My main problem now is remembering where stuff is. Sometimes I color-code the fronts or insert manufacturer’s packaging into the card slots for easier identification. I’ve got dark Sortainers accented with bright gaffer’s tape for electrical parts and equipment, for instance. Sometimes I’ll tape or glue an example of the item to the outside of the drawer. For me the thermo labels just get lost in a sea of text. I have a hard enough time identifying the tiny tool pictures that come on original Festool tool Systainers. I wonder what other solutions people have for this problem. Maybe I need better glasses.
Sedge you need to up your game and replace those cards with printed PVC cards. :). I enjoy the 3 drawer Sortainers myself (so much so that I have wound up with 2 from Lamello for parts).
Oh your sortainer sys4 3 drawer, does the 2 dividers that divide the drawer into thirds remove to create one large drawer? I am considering looking at this to organize my 200mm Tormek wheels and jigs. Thank you!
i will be doing a video soon about the chisels...They are from Blue Spruce Toolworks .. they are the Optima bench chisels and I can not believe how sharp they come from Blue Spruce.... WICKED sharp !! ...
Thanks for sharing another great video. I’ve looked at putting foam in my drawers. Do you get any issues with rust? I was concerned about the foam holding on to moisture.
I think you guys have a serious 'tool' fetish!! Your workshop is so tidy, it makes me wonder if you actually do anything in there or is it just for show and you have another workshop just near it that is disorganised and dusty with tools everywhere. Just wondering?? Haha!! Like your video and it's good fun watching.
Totally agree Sedge. But most people won’t be able to afford the $10,000 to buy the overpriced Festool sustainers. I am sure everyone watching is envious and would love to have a wall full of systainers
I stole all of mine!…. Not really. I paid far too much for second hand tanos where ever I could find them. Realistically I stand a chance of being robbed at some point. It’s happened three times in over 30 years. If it happens again I’ll not replace again. I’ll start driving Ubers instead
Damn you Sedge! Just when I think, I don’t need that, you make me realize maybe I do! Thanks brother- Johnny O from Atco, NJ
Johnny OOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! You Rock Brother !!!
Excellent Seg. I'm just a poor talented amateur. I have to make due with HF parts boxes for the most part. There are a lot of tools in Kazan foam in those boxes. Two design idea's I got from others were #1) Have everything you need for a tool together with that tool, even if you need to have duplicates support items such as bits and tips. #2 From your primary work locations in your shop, have what you use the most within concentric circles of use; such as arms reach, one step, and beyond for occasional use. Now do the same for secondary tools or locations. For nuts and bolts, I have parts boxes for various sizes such as 1/4", 3/8", other. Works really well.
One thing I never really thought about for kaizen foam until I got a sheet free as packing material for my systainers was... you can store tools vertically in it. I thought it would take up a ton of space, but unless you actually stack tools multiple layers deep, then that space is unusable space, but also, you can now stack tools that take up horizontal space in a shallow box, vertically, or diagonally with multiple tools in layers. And it's fragile enough, you can just ram the shafts of router bits through it.
Before I got on kaizen I thought they were goody with all the spread out tools, but in retrospect, it's just the guys making videos that are USING the foam goofy. If my box is 4-5 inches deep, I want 4-5 inches, vertical, of tool storage. my batteries, my torpedo level, my scribes, my miter gauge, my bits, my blades, all store vertically now, whereas if they were loose, they just fell over, consolidated into a mess, and prevented me from closing the boxes as they worked their way under my jigsaw, or my stud finder, or my drill. Now, I have more stuff in the boxes and it stores fine.
cool
cool
Sedge you're a legend!!!
Thanks !!!
If you have a 3d printer, you can print out custom sized bins for both the sortainer/tackle box system, as well as the Bott bins from the Sys3 organizers. I've also been working on a model of the Sys3 grid base, I have 150x150mm lego grid bases that I can fill the bottom of ordinary cabinet drawers with, that the Sys3 bins sit on top of so they don't tip or slide in the drawer.
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You can also print out the the white festool sustainer holders in the cabinets. They don't slide like the expensive ones festool makes but they a match to the nonsliding ones festool makes. I'm all about spending good money on their accurate tools but they go insane on every little plastic part you want to upgrade or replace. YOu can literally make it yourself for .12 cents and they want $20 for it. In that regard, just 3D print any plastic insert or moving part you can.
Being organised massively reduces stress, makes you money, saves time and makes it easier to transport kit about. Re. the cost, it quickly costs when you need to go offsite for something or can’t find something.
I love that you mentioned the reduction in stress ...sooooooo true ..Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Sedge, incredible organizational wall. That said, I think the time and money to get organized came with a huge cost to your time and money. When I was at the War College a retired Colonel (Ray Porter) told me that “when your stuff needs stuff you have to much stuff!”😃
wow..very sound advice..... I am starting to declutter my stuff !!!
You've done many great videos. This is one of your best! When people tell me how expensive Festool Systainers are, I always ask them how they pay for being unorganized. Good tools aren't cheap, cheap tools aren't good.
Thank you so much...I love the efficiency a well organized shop gives me !!!!
Good stuff! Especially labeling inside that’s a whole new level. Last year I remade all my sys labels by printing out new ones and laminating them ising a small business card / postcard size laminator. Needs a little trim to fit but looks great and I could color code things as well which makes things easier to find. Really appreciate the videos man, keep up the good work !!
That's a great idea!
Very interesting and creative. I prefer French cleats, magnetic bars and Akro-Mills parts boxes as I like to display and see most of my tools and the parts boxes are ideal for the hundreds of fasteners and small items. See, grab and go to work suits me best.
Cool, thanks
Looking forward to the big drawers in January!!!
cool
Thanks Sedge, Big D and Chris (you have to have a camera man). Gives me lots of ideas to spend my wife's hard earned money on.
You can do it!
Glad I'm not the only one that paid for those expensive BCT pieces that never got used.... I was not being.... "Wicked Smart".
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Oh wow I've never seen that combined metric/imperial saddle square, neat!
Very cool
Professor Sedge! Job well done. Blake
Thanks Blake !!!
Dang man I am JEALOUS!!! Great setup you have there. I was saying yesterday that my shop is nearer a disaster zone than a shop. It's a working shop, always something going on, but it's getting to the point where I need to do a day or two of major organizing.
That day or 2 organizing will greatly pay off in your future shop efficiency.....YOU CAN DO IT !!!!
I love the 3 drawer Sortainer. They look small on the outside, but eat up tons of stuff. Just watch out, they can get heavy.
for sure !!!💪💪
Dude. It was wonderful seeing under your workstation but wish I could see the rest of those drawers to see the rest of the tools and how you grouped them, sedge.
What a tease😂
Stay Tuned !!!!
sew crates-love it
so-Crates 😹
Amazing. Love it
Thank you! Cheers!
I love sorting out my shop and using the labelling machine. Glad to see I’m not the only one. It’s so nice to know where everything is. Only problem is that the drawers and containers eventually get super expensive eventually. Nice job Sedge!!!
Love it!! Thanks !!!
The fitted foam is only a dollar more than the square blocks, also a time saver.
cool
The year is 2056. My grand kids are walking around a car boot sale with their mum(my daughter) they see a yellows and battered sortania with a load of threaded t nuts and strips of corroded beads and odd glue sticks.
The seller says “free to a good home”
🤣
I’m constantly moving Sortainers and Systainers on wheeled trolleys. My main problem now is remembering where stuff is. Sometimes I color-code the fronts or insert manufacturer’s packaging into the card slots for easier identification. I’ve got dark Sortainers accented with bright gaffer’s tape for electrical parts and equipment, for instance. Sometimes I’ll tape or glue an example of the item to the outside of the drawer.
For me the thermo labels just get lost in a sea of text. I have a hard enough time identifying the tiny tool pictures that come on original Festool tool Systainers.
I wonder what other solutions people have for this problem. Maybe I need better glasses.
OK
Sedge you need to up your game and replace those cards with printed PVC cards. :). I enjoy the 3 drawer Sortainers myself (so much so that I have wound up with 2 from Lamello for parts).
Thanks for the tips!
Great video, would love to learn your cab scribing technique
Will do one early next year....just waiting for the right project...
Which labeler are you using? I just bought a couple more Sortainers. Thanks!
I use a Brother....
Oh your sortainer sys4 3 drawer, does the 2 dividers that divide the drawer into thirds remove to create one large drawer? I am considering looking at this to organize my 200mm Tormek wheels and jigs.
Thank you!
Yes they do
Can you talk about those chisels and what is the name of the manufacture?
i will be doing a video soon about the chisels...They are from Blue Spruce Toolworks .. they are the Optima bench chisels and I can not believe how sharp they come from Blue Spruce.... WICKED sharp !! ...
Great video. I wonder if a 2 drawer option would be available in the future in the same size (larger drawers)
Good question!
Will it be worth waiting for the new SYS3 Sort? It looks like the work with the new style bins
i do not know...haven't seen yet
Thanks for sharing another great video. I’ve looked at putting foam in my drawers. Do you get any issues with rust? I was concerned about the foam holding on to moisture.
I have had zero point zero issues with moisture or rust using foam.....
@@sedgetool great to know! Thanks for the reply. I recently got the Shaper Trace so think I’ll be scanning some tool outlines this weekend!
I need better drawers for my power tools....something like Milwaukee and Dewalt have...
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How are you storing all of your bench planes Sedge? I’ve been debating about XXL systainers for my longer planes
Beginning of year ... 2024.. I will get into that...work in progress
I managed to fit a #7 jointer in a Sys3 L 137, but I had to do some surgery to it with Dremel and remove one of the internal corner braces
I think you guys have a serious 'tool' fetish!! Your workshop is so tidy, it makes me wonder if you actually do anything in there or is it just for show and you have another workshop just near it that is disorganised and dusty with tools everywhere. Just wondering?? Haha!! Like your video and it's good fun watching.
😀
Sorry don’t have 10,000 $ for systainers
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Totally agree Sedge. But most people won’t be able to afford the $10,000 to buy the overpriced Festool sustainers. I am sure everyone watching is envious and would love to have a wall full of systainers
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I stole all of mine!….
Not really. I paid far too much for second hand tanos where ever I could find them.
Realistically I stand a chance of being robbed at some point. It’s happened three times in over 30 years. If it happens again I’ll not replace again. I’ll start driving Ubers instead
Sedge give me energy ...🔨🪛🏋♀
Bam !!! You have the power !!!😂