REally good one handed back hand by Matt. I like using a one hander too , but it is so hard to control and master. Thinking of going two hands reluctantly. One handed is so classy. Winston's got a good forehand. He needs to finish the easy points at the net. Hopefully he has gotten better at that in the past year.
Footwork was a big difference. Matt's footwork and shot preparation is very consistent. Some of Winston's unforced errors came because he was not quite in the right position. Thanks for sharing!
yeah, the Matt is hard-worker on all the shots while Winston is quite lazy on some of them. I had the same problem, it was solved by moving to blade 98 18x20(as it punishes me for bad footwork) and focusing more on physical preparation
Winston your strokes are improving a lot ! Nice to see your progress 🙂 please add the racket and string setup to your vids, I am sure this will get you more hits. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
A super sweet watch. It was personally really intriguing to watch Matt and his technique on both strokes on the BH wing. It's liberating and inspiring to see the same main things which I get the most observations about - the stiffness of the body, the very minimalized racquet drop on the drive stroke, the very in-front contact point on the slice. He makes it all work extremely well, and at a 5.0 level to boot. Definitely loved this. Thanks for playing and putting it together! (Sure, watching Winston is cool too I guess :] )
Don't change anything with the format or quality of players and you'll continue to gain followers Winston. Nice intro (not too long), good editing of points (like showing all points), and I like the end bit of review for both. Cheers.
For me, learning to stay in points is being patient is a really good take-away. It is funny watching, where in some of the points I was saying in my head "I would have gone for that one", but then I know it wasn't really an offensive position, but the good aggressive neutral ball you both often hit is the better shot. Definitely learning as I go. Appreciate the content.
Seeing big improvements in Winston's game! I would love to hit with you next I visit my buddy in the Irvine area. Keep it up and keep improving! Love your channel :)
Good set to watch. Matt has a good slice and used that to force short balls, he has better placement on his forehand too. Winston 8:54 is an interesting point about your game.
Winston I'm sure you noticed this already but I think you would have more chances when he gives you that shorter, neutral ball to create more angle off of your forehand. Get him moving outside the doubles lines and make him work more instead of going safe/neutral. He's rock solid from the baseline when he has time so creating angle and stepping up will put more pressure on him to come up with a better shot :)
Indeed. I also thought Matt was also very effective moving forward not to mention the backhand slice also forced Winston to slice in return which he doesn't seem as comfortable doing.
As a one-hander myself, I can tell you the secret to beating us is to isolate to the backhand with your backhand. This is hard because most of us are pros at dancing around the backhand to hit inside out (like Matt here) so you have to really work at nailing the backhand corner. Reason you do it with your backhand is because you don't give up court positioning and that helps you with the next tip: punish by going down the line with your backhand when we hit inside out. You do this because it takes away time you would spend hitting a forehand, and that makes it much harder to cover that shot, making the next shot a controlling one for you. Most people struggle with doing either of these, especially against 5.0+ one-handers but if you do those two things well you'll trouble any one-hander regardless of win or lose. Djokovic v Federer is a great model.
one way to expose the backhand is to hit deep to the forehand, then avoid hitting only 3 feet from the center-line, which these types of players will willingly run around.
@@marcgrondin65 Yes! This is easier if you isolate their backhand first with your backhand because: 1) You push them further off court making the forehand harder to cover 2) You will likely get a short or weak ball that you can drill up the line to the forehand and increase the percentage on that shot, rather than hit it off of a neutral rally ball which is much harder
I think 90% of Matts game is his excellent forehand (and good footwork). His 1 handed topspin backhand technique is actually not correct in my opinion, hits with mostly sidespin instead of topspin. But he hides it well by running around it and also slicing.
Good match Winston. Seemed like you were a little tentative in this match. You seemed to have enough time to lob him on some of his approaches but tried going through him instead. Great content as usual.
Thank you guys for showing match rally really good see two players because every tv-tennis angle is too high to watch on tv..doo boring to watch now.. But you guys tennis match shows low camera angle so I can learn tennis and feel how tennis match showing intense and threat on tv..thanks again
nice video, great hitting. question at 4:20, I run into this a lot and wondered if anyone had any input on shot selection. I find myself here a lot, off balance backhand either from my opponents attacking approach shot or a volley (as we just saw). I feel since my backhand isn't strong already, should I just be trying to get a flick lob towards there backhand side as defense. Each time I try and go for the pass, I either miss or since I'm off balance it's so weak they do a put away volley. Any thoughts?
The biggest difference I noticed was Matt's anticipation and readiness on his shots, really using his whole body. Honestly if Winston worked solely on footwork/ball path anticipation, taking more advantage of his athleticism, he'd be a 5.0 easy.
Matt's was very consistent. I noticed a lot of Matt's ball landed in the service box, perhaps an opportunity for you to step in and take the ball early to hit shorter angles since it was hard to hit through Matt?
There is clearly a difference between the two levels but I'm sure with the right strategy and execution the lower rung players can beat players above them. Nice and entertaining match!
Winston next time you play this guy the only thing that should be on your mind is “Hit to his backhand”. There were only a few points that he had to hit more than 4 backhands in a row. You won most of those. Don’t worry about having a too “obvious “ a strategy. He runs around his backhand to protect a weakness. Don’t let him get away with that. Even if he hits a good slice backhand it just keeps him in the point it’s not really hurting you outright. You had one serve and volley point to his backhand. Do more of that on occasion to force him to not just slice backhand serve returns. Another thing you could do occasionally during your serve and rallies is hit a shot to his backhand and take a quickly step or two forward telegraphing a net approach. You can stop and stay at the baseline after this “Fake”. This move will draw further errors from his backhand. This guy has rather extreme grips on both sides. Players like this generally don’t do well on low short balls, especially wide ones. Give him what he doesn’t like not what he does like. It means altering your hitting patterns but he’s shown that he’s better than you at executing the run of the mill baseline topspin rally. Work on that overhead. The tentativeness in your body language during overheads is so marked. On the positive side you showed some pretty good mobility in this set.
Winston what kind of camera are you using? The video quality seems very high and both players are very well lite - quite good for night time play. Oh, and great tennis.
You should try mounting the camera a bit higher. Like maybe at the top of the fence---you've got quite a bit of blank frame space up there, so you can definitely angle the camera downward some. That would be interesting. Still a better camera angle than tennis producers use on TV (absurdly high angle).
Was surprised Winston.that you were running around Matt’s serve to get to your forehand. Goes to show you that a big serve is not an necessity to get to 5.0 and above!
Man, what clickbait, you didn't even play two-handed on both sides. *Edit: That overhead exchange at 8:49, are you going easy or do you have trouble putting it away?
I would have to assume lack of confidence. He sent a couple easy overheads long. I think Winston needs some work on that and his serve and he will start to push for 5.0
You talking about Matt right?? Technically he doesn't have to change grip but the fh western is more like a hammer grip. The 1hbh is more like a pistol grip.
Clearly Matt is the better player this the ranking difference. Winston you played really well though considering you were playing against a ball machine. Also the match was actually very close and it should have been 4-3 Matt on the second or third deuce of 4-2. Matt called the ball out but that was clearly inside line. Not saying Matt was cheating at all but it just happens to be Matt lost the next point which would have taken it to 4-3. All in all great match. Keep working guys.
The grunting is excessive and annoying. He's grunting on shots which require little exertion. Case in point @6:55. He hit a little slice backhand (grunt) followed by a forehand where he grunts BEFORE he hits. Sounded like he was carrying a refrigerator up stairs.
Matt has a weak one handed backhand slice that he hits all the time and very short. You didn't take advantage of that weakness. High kick serves to the backhand and volley is his demise.
Well that is something Winston can work on. Anyone can hit a kick serve at 4.5 level. If he is able to do it consistently then his level can go up to 5.0. Overall his game is in the same level as this dude who claims he is a 5.0. Winston just needs to focus on his opponents weakness and that slice backhand is so obvious.
Winston you are playing too much on your heels, get on your toes when preparing to hit. Transfer of weight was better toward the last part of the set. Matt has better footwork if you watch it closely..
I had to stop watching, the 5.0 player is in the blue shirt? and that is his backhand?? and why is he grunting on every shot?? Who in the world rates these players.
REally good one handed back hand by Matt. I like using a one hander too , but it is so hard to control and master. Thinking of going two hands reluctantly. One handed is so classy. Winston's got a good forehand. He needs to finish the easy points at the net. Hopefully he has gotten better at that in the past year.
Footwork was a big difference. Matt's footwork and shot preparation is very consistent. Some of Winston's unforced errors came because he was not quite in the right position. Thanks for sharing!
yeah, the Matt is hard-worker on all the shots while Winston is quite lazy on some of them.
I had the same problem, it was solved by moving to blade 98 18x20(as it punishes me for bad footwork) and focusing more on physical preparation
Matt’s form and preparation for every shot is inspiring.
Winston your strokes are improving a lot ! Nice to see your progress 🙂 please add the racket and string setup to your vids, I am sure this will get you more hits. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Would love to see you get some free points on your serve! Do you have an injury that’s keeping you from getting more wrist snap?
A super sweet watch. It was personally really intriguing to watch Matt and his technique on both strokes on the BH wing. It's liberating and inspiring to see the same main things which I get the most observations about - the stiffness of the body, the very minimalized racquet drop on the drive stroke, the very in-front contact point on the slice. He makes it all work extremely well, and at a 5.0 level to boot. Definitely loved this. Thanks for playing and putting it together!
(Sure, watching Winston is cool too I guess :] )
Yeah man congrats on the channel, I love the editing and camera angles, lots to learn from.
That looked really exhausting :-D Some seriously long rallies! Great job, guys
Great rallies boys! Thanks for keeping us entertained!
Don't change anything with the format or quality of players and you'll continue to gain followers Winston. Nice intro (not too long), good editing of points (like showing all points), and I like the end bit of review for both. Cheers.
For me, learning to stay in points is being patient is a really good take-away. It is funny watching, where in some of the points I was saying in my head "I would have gone for that one", but then I know it wasn't really an offensive position, but the good aggressive neutral ball you both often hit is the better shot. Definitely learning as I go. Appreciate the content.
Seeing big improvements in Winston's game! I would love to hit with you next I visit my buddy in the Irvine area. Keep it up and keep improving! Love your channel :)
Good set to watch. Matt has a good slice and used that to force short balls, he has better placement on his forehand too. Winston 8:54 is an interesting point about your game.
Winston I'm sure you noticed this already but I think you would have more chances when he gives you that shorter, neutral ball to create more angle off of your forehand. Get him moving outside the doubles lines and make him work more instead of going safe/neutral. He's rock solid from the baseline when he has time so creating angle and stepping up will put more pressure on him to come up with a better shot :)
2:28 ball was in, he called it out
Some great rallies in there! Loved it. A few questionable calls though :P
Great set, guys. High quality all round.
Thank you, I enjoyed
I agree that Matt being a little more consistent makes the difference. Nonetheless great playing from both!
Indeed. I also thought Matt was also very effective moving forward not to mention the backhand slice also forced Winston to slice in return which he doesn't seem as comfortable doing.
As a one-hander myself, I can tell you the secret to beating us is to isolate to the backhand with your backhand. This is hard because most of us are pros at dancing around the backhand to hit inside out (like Matt here) so you have to really work at nailing the backhand corner. Reason you do it with your backhand is because you don't give up court positioning and that helps you with the next tip: punish by going down the line with your backhand when we hit inside out. You do this because it takes away time you would spend hitting a forehand, and that makes it much harder to cover that shot, making the next shot a controlling one for you. Most people struggle with doing either of these, especially against 5.0+ one-handers but if you do those two things well you'll trouble any one-hander regardless of win or lose. Djokovic v Federer is a great model.
Exactly. Let me get to work.
one way to expose the backhand is to hit deep to the forehand, then avoid hitting only 3 feet from the center-line, which these types of players will willingly run around.
@@marcgrondin65 Yes! This is easier if you isolate their backhand first with your backhand because:
1) You push them further off court making the forehand harder to cover
2) You will likely get a short or weak ball that you can drill up the line to the forehand and increase the percentage on that shot, rather than hit it off of a neutral rally ball which is much harder
I think 90% of Matts game is his excellent forehand (and good footwork). His 1 handed topspin backhand technique is actually not correct in my opinion, hits with mostly sidespin instead of topspin. But he hides it well by running around it and also slicing.
Good match Winston. Seemed like you were a little tentative in this match. You seemed to have enough time to lob him on some of his approaches but tried going through him instead. Great content as usual.
Thank you guys for showing match rally really good see two players because every tv-tennis angle is too high to watch on tv..doo boring to watch now.. But you guys tennis match shows low camera angle so I can learn tennis and feel how tennis match showing intense and threat on tv..thanks again
nice video, great hitting. question at 4:20, I run into this a lot and wondered if anyone had any input on shot selection. I find myself here a lot, off balance backhand either from my opponents attacking approach shot or a volley (as we just saw). I feel since my backhand isn't strong already, should I just be trying to get a flick lob towards there backhand side as defense. Each time I try and go for the pass, I either miss or since I'm off balance it's so weak they do a put away volley. Any thoughts?
The biggest difference I noticed was Matt's anticipation and readiness on his shots, really using his whole body. Honestly if Winston worked solely on footwork/ball path anticipation, taking more advantage of his athleticism, he'd be a 5.0 easy.
How do you work on footwork and anticipation? Drills where you hit from different corners of the courts while running from one position to the other?
Great rally 8:45 , highly entertaining. If Matt is 5.0 than Winston is a 4.8. Matt is a nice guy.
Hi Winston! Please make a video showing your recording gear… thanks
Very good set for the both of you…long rallies!
Matt's was very consistent. I noticed a lot of Matt's ball landed in the service box, perhaps an opportunity for you to step in and take the ball early to hit shorter angles since it was hard to hit through Matt?
There is clearly a difference between the two levels but I'm sure with the right strategy and execution the lower rung players can beat players above them. Nice and entertaining match!
Nice 31 shot rally at 8:32
Keep up the good work
Great use of directionals!
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Winston next time you play this guy the only thing that should be on your mind is “Hit to his backhand”. There were only a few points that he had to hit more than 4 backhands in a row. You won most of those. Don’t worry about having a too “obvious “ a strategy. He runs around his backhand to protect a weakness. Don’t let him get away with that. Even if he hits a good slice backhand it just keeps him in the point it’s not really hurting you outright. You had one serve and volley point to his backhand. Do more of that on occasion to force him to not just slice backhand serve returns. Another thing you could do occasionally during your serve and rallies is hit a shot to his backhand and take a quickly step or two forward telegraphing a net approach. You can stop and stay at the baseline after this “Fake”. This move will draw further errors from his backhand.
This guy has rather extreme grips on both sides. Players like this generally don’t do well on low short balls, especially wide ones. Give him what he doesn’t like not what he does like. It means altering your hitting patterns but he’s shown that he’s better than you at executing the run of the mill baseline topspin rally.
Work on that overhead. The tentativeness in your body language during overheads is so marked. On the positive side you showed some pretty good mobility in this set.
Winston what kind of camera are you using? The video quality seems very high and both players are very well lite - quite good for night time play. Oh, and great tennis.
That forehand grip is bizarre
Can you try a different lens? You can't see what the opponent is doing.
You should try mounting the camera a bit higher. Like maybe at the top of the fence---you've got quite a bit of blank frame space up there, so you can definitely angle the camera downward some. That would be interesting. Still a better camera angle than tennis producers use on TV (absurdly high angle).
I like the court level angle just fine.
9:00 You need to put away those smashes, practice hitting flat ones! They all have some slice on it, thus they are much too slow.
What kind of serve is Matt's ? I envy his one-handed backhand and serve. Thank you.
Matt’s backhand looks like the single handed version of Norrie’s backhand.. very stiff and extended for no reason, but it somehow still works.
Does it make any sense to hit with a 2 handed backhand slice shot?
Dude is trying to mimic all of Thiem's mannerism right down to the grunts; however the backhand is mainly a slice.
Dreams of having Matt's balance.
Was surprised Winston.that you were running around Matt’s serve to get to your forehand. Goes to show you that a big serve is not an necessity to get to 5.0 and above!
Groundstrokes look good. Serve and overheads need improving.
In which way do you film?
How do you get the scoreboard on your videos?
Matt has an interesting forehand grip right there...
Maybe it’s the camera angle but it looked like Winston made several bad out calls that looked good…
One bars are pretty yummy! Used to eat them a ton!
what happened to TennisTim???
Great match
Great match, well disputed. Both played consistently, but Matt can hit a little bit more aggressively and still missing vey few shots.
guy's grunt sounds like the Gorn from Star Trek
Man, what clickbait, you didn't even play two-handed on both sides.
*Edit: That overhead exchange at 8:49, are you going easy or do you have trouble putting it away?
I would have to assume lack of confidence. He sent a couple easy overheads long. I think Winston needs some work on that and his serve and he will start to push for 5.0
Agreed. Came for the two-hander. Left disappointed.
I feel like the main difference between 4.5 and 5.0 players is error reduction. 😅 Am I wrong??
Matt has a very funny technique😀
Serve & footwork differences
I was curious as to what grip Matt is using on his forehand. Looks very extreme
full western
This was the longest 6-2 set ever
Great set! That was some grueling baseline rallies.
such a western grip on the forehand, do you even have to adjust your grip to hit a one hander with that lol
You talking about Matt right?? Technically he doesn't have to change grip but the fh western is more like a hammer grip. The 1hbh is more like a pistol grip.
Please have Ryan and Coach Chase play singles
Clearly Matt is the better player this the ranking difference. Winston you played really well though considering you were playing against a ball machine. Also the match was actually very close and it should have been 4-3 Matt on the second or third deuce of 4-2. Matt called the ball out but that was clearly inside line. Not saying Matt was cheating at all but it just happens to be Matt lost the next point which would have taken it to 4-3. All in all great match. Keep working guys.
You can rename name Matt the sensai screamer! Jesuses every hit he’s sounds like she’s trying to karate chop the hell out of something 😂
15:15 that cant be out
Got to admit. From the replay, it's tough... Looks like it caught the line. But I'd still trust their judgement on that IRL.
Gentlemen, you are good at tennis
Matt is definitely Djokovic's fan. Can tell from the grunt lol
The grunting is excessive and annoying. He's grunting on shots which require little exertion. Case in point @6:55. He hit a little slice backhand (grunt) followed by a forehand where he grunts BEFORE he hits. Sounded like he was carrying a refrigerator up stairs.
2:26 looks in to me :)
Watch in slow mo you can see bounce just next to theline
his grunts are bigger than his shots
Great hitting. That's a huge 1 hander!
Huge? It’s super consistent, but I don’t think he hit a single winner from that side the entire set.
Lol it's mainly defensive slices. Trying too hard to mimic Thiem.
That one-handed backhand follow through looks off.
One hand all day!!!
I thought you were showing the difference between a 2 handed and a 1 handed???All the backhands were wide off screen! 😡
Yo was matt in ukraine this summer ?
@@WinstonDu yeah I met him in a bar. And I randomly see him in your video lol. World feels pretty small when this kind of things happen.
Some of these out calls…… either it’s the view, or something else lsw
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You need to work on your serve. It's your biggest weakness. 2nd thing is shot selection. Too many neutral balls.
Moaning >>>>>>>>>> speed of the balls
Matt has a weak one handed backhand slice that he hits all the time and very short. You didn't take advantage of that weakness. High kick serves to the backhand and volley is his demise.
No offense to you (or to Winston) but can he actually hit the type of kick serve you're recommending?
Well that is something Winston can work on. Anyone can hit a kick serve at 4.5 level. If he is able to do it consistently then his level can go up to 5.0. Overall his game is in the same level as this dude who claims he is a 5.0. Winston just needs to focus on his opponents weakness and that slice backhand is so obvious.
Those are some janky, weird, ass forehands fellas...
Winston you are playing too much on your heels, get on your toes when preparing to hit. Transfer of weight was better toward the last part of the set. Matt has better footwork if you watch it closely..
I had to stop watching, the 5.0 player is in the blue shirt? and that is his backhand?? and why is he grunting on every shot?? Who in the world rates these players.
Bro…the grunting is too much
5.0 because of Arrggh-beahhh
Such annoying grunt from the blue shirt, and for amateur, it's ridiculous.
the groaning ugh, 2nd game in groaning on a slice.....
bum player how about power shots
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