Beethoven placed two different melodies and being the two bassoons counterparts to the "Ode" leitmotif, only makes this part simply divine. Unhappily people who do not have trained ears are not able to listen to this detail on concerts, that's why this video is so important and enriching. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind comment! When I was a kid, the standard edition of the score had the 2d bassoon resting, which is sinful. So glad to play this version!
@@Xjohn7 do you know why they used to remove the 2nd bassoon and what prompted them to add it back? This is such an interesting revelation to me as I was introduced to Choral by recordings WITH the 2nd bassoon and I suppose when I later came across recordings without it (Karajan's, say) I just assumed it's drowned by the basses!
@@user-lf8mq2li3i Not sure - my guess is that an editor might have left it out of a major edition and until we got "scholarly" in the 70s no one noticed. Just a guess.
Honestly this is a bit like the bass solo that is Call of Ktulu (sic), it's so low in the mix that you need to be used to listen for the bass guitar in songs for it to be audible
I dont know anything about classical music. But this part what i was looking for when listening to Beethoven 9th. It sound different than other instrument. Love it
I love the way they play off of one another the first minute or so, like they are having a delightful conversation, Beethoven was such a genius, the individual parts could have been pieces on their own in some respects, that's why when you listen to his symphonies, you never get bored, there is always more to discover.
Having listened to this symphony for most of my life, I only came across this a few days ago, and have been checking many performances of Beethoven's Choral symphony to see how other conductors handle this duet.Only this performance and that of Frederic Chaslin/JSO [of those that I have checked so far] do this duet the justice it rightly deserves. Thank you so much for the enormous effort you have put into allowing music lovers everywhere to derive even greater joy from this fantastic symphony!
Thank you for this video. I checked Breitkopf and CCARH's scores and found that they have the second bassoon silent in this passage. But Beethoven's MS (PDF p.258) has, by the first bassoon's entry "2do Fag col B". So we've been denying second bassoonists their share of this passage. :(
As a child I used to be fascinated by this bassoon part (especially first 45 seconds or so of the guy on the left), and would pick out the part on the piano keyboard. Glad to hear and see it here now.
A transcendent beauty plugged into the great piece of Beethoven's love. Hearing that in a recording of this piece and hearing Bassoons chirps and swirls in the middle of everything is just a trancelike experience.
The matter is that i follow every style of music and i feel happy... Jazz, or classic or rock or any other music, i follow the composition to the deepest parts and i enjoy it. Every detail.... its amazing... Of course classic is more adorable and jazz more complex... But even in soul music, one finds special countepart solis on bass or drums, that show how inspiring real art is...
A former bassoon player and mediocre one at that. I would have hated to read the sheet music for this given how I was normally by myself most times, but boy would I have loved to even attempt it and learn it. Going to find a recording of the 9th now. Hopefully I can hear the solos. My bassoons are having a musical conversation on just the daily happenings.
I really like this part, and I would like to play it but I’m a tuba player, and I can’t find any sheet music where they converted it from bassoon to tuba. Someone did, because I watched a tuba duet of ode to joy where he did the bassoon part. Anyone have any suggestions?
Bassoons and tubas should be the same key. You might have to manage the octave (I'm not sure how high tubas go comfortably) but here are the bassoon parts.
It counterpoint, so it's not really supposed to be a melody, counterpoint is a harmonic tool that exists in music, the aim is to create a counter melody that can function independently while still harmonising with the main melody... You can hear it in all of Bach's music. Notice how the counterpoint complements the main theme, and even at times it echoes fragments of it. And that is what makes this so beautiful, because we don't have one counterpoint melody, but two.
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One of the most beautiful Bassoon solos
its not a basson solo, quite obviously
@@googlekonto6666 loooolllll haha
Beethoven placed two different melodies and being the two bassoons counterparts to the "Ode" leitmotif, only makes this part simply divine. Unhappily people who do not have trained ears are not able to listen to this detail on concerts, that's why this video is so important and enriching. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind comment! When I was a kid, the standard edition of the score had the 2d bassoon resting, which is sinful. So glad to play this version!
@@Xjohn7 do you know why they used to remove the 2nd bassoon and what prompted them to add it back? This is such an interesting revelation to me as I was introduced to Choral by recordings WITH the 2nd bassoon and I suppose when I later came across recordings without it (Karajan's, say) I just assumed it's drowned by the basses!
@@user-lf8mq2li3i Not sure - my guess is that an editor might have left it out of a major edition and until we got "scholarly" in the 70s no one noticed. Just a guess.
Your comment depicts perfectly what I felt throughout my life knowing this masterpiece.
Honestly this is a bit like the bass solo that is Call of Ktulu (sic), it's so low in the mix that you need to be used to listen for the bass guitar in songs for it to be audible
This is my favorite part of ode to joy, so cool to see it up close and louder, thanks
You haven't lived until you heard the full thing in a concert hall.
I haven't lived.
I'd say in the middle of an orchestra/chorus is even better... Get out and see a live performance as things open up!
This is played really well...
And to think the guy who wrote only ever heard this in his head... This is brilliant...
I dont know anything about classical music. But this part what i was looking for when listening to Beethoven 9th. It sound different than other instrument. Love it
You have the ears of a musician.
This is like a romantic poem written by a maiden and her lover
I love the way they play off of one another the first minute or so, like they are having a delightful conversation, Beethoven was such a genius, the individual parts could have been pieces on their own in some respects, that's why when you listen to his symphonies, you never get bored, there is always more to discover.
My favourite part are the bassoons so beautiful ☺️
it's divine! i 'd loop this section for thousand times, can comfort one's soul. can't view that close even in the concert.
Our orchestra actually does "immersive" concerts sometimes. You can sit right in with the players!
Having listened to this symphony for most of my life, I only came across this a few days ago, and have been checking many performances of Beethoven's Choral symphony to see how other conductors handle this duet.Only this performance and that of Frederic Chaslin/JSO [of those that I have checked so far] do this duet the justice it rightly deserves. Thank you so much for the enormous effort you have put into allowing music lovers everywhere to derive even greater joy from this fantastic symphony!
I noticed the bassoons comparatively recently and I always listen to them now. LvB's more subtle touches like this can be amazing.
That’s one of my favorite parts of the 4th movement!!
Such a great vid! This bassoon part so often gets lost amongst everything else in performance, it's so great to hear it so clearly.
this is why i play bassoon
Thank you for this video. I checked Breitkopf and CCARH's scores and found that they have the second bassoon silent in this passage. But Beethoven's MS (PDF p.258) has, by the first bassoon's entry "2do Fag col B". So we've been denying second bassoonists their share of this passage. :(
This cures my depression.
Definitely one of the highlights of the ninth symphony!
the whole piece is a highlight lmao
As a child I used to be fascinated by this bassoon part (especially first 45 seconds or so of the guy on the left), and would pick out the part on the piano keyboard. Glad to hear and see it here now.
That is so great to see! Thank you for posting!
A transcendent beauty plugged into the great piece of Beethoven's love. Hearing that in a recording of this piece and hearing Bassoons chirps and swirls in the middle of everything is just a trancelike experience.
This really helped me learn to quickly play this part on the bassoon voice on my electric piano
Thanks for sharing this! Amazing
It’s incredible that Beethoven wrote this when he was already completely deaf.
Think of it like writing a poem if you were deaf. You could still tell how it would sound!
I play clarinet but whenever I hear this I wish I played bassoon. It's so beautiful it makes me cry.
clarinet has a purer tone
this is my favourite part of the whole symphony
It's like two birds preening each other. Get a room you two!
Wundervoll
This amazing performance is irreplaceable , and unrivaled
Very important second bassoon. First and second bassoon play beautiful medley. I think this passage must play second bassoon.
Thank you so much for this!!!!
Thank you for posting this!! I love the bassoon parts here and ive always wanted to know what they sound like individually!
We need the whole movement!!
The matter is that i follow every style of music and i feel happy... Jazz, or classic or rock or any other music, i follow the composition to the deepest parts and i enjoy it.
Every detail.... its amazing...
Of course classic is more adorable and jazz more complex... But even in soul music, one finds special countepart solis on bass or drums, that show how inspiring real art is...
Wonderful
Such a beautiful moment
Sublime
best instrument in the piece!!! love this part!!!
wonderful. wonderful. some day, I will play one of those parts in a concert. along with the solo part in the Beethoven violin concerto
In German the bassoon is a god.
I got goosebumps listening 😲😲😲😲
im japanese.
this video is very wonderful.
becase i like bassoon.
Спасибо очень красиво, .
A former bassoon player and mediocre one at that. I would have hated to read the sheet music for this given how I was normally by myself most times, but boy would I have loved to even attempt it and learn it. Going to find a recording of the 9th now. Hopefully I can hear the solos.
My bassoons are having a musical conversation on just the daily happenings.
I really like this part, and I would like to play it but I’m a tuba player, and I can’t find any sheet music where they converted it from bassoon to tuba. Someone did, because I watched a tuba duet of ode to joy where he did the bassoon part. Anyone have any suggestions?
Bassoons and tubas should be the same key. You might have to manage the octave (I'm not sure how high tubas go comfortably) but here are the bassoon parts.
Good counterpoint
In my opinion it's on the level of JS Bach, it's just done in the classical way, meaning Beethoven is the other greatest composer to ever live.
0:51 scales 😍
Short and barely audible, but it is a gem shining brightly amongst gems of gems once you heard it.
hands so shakes)
where is the contrabassoon? If so who is the contrabassoon player for this video
Beethoven used the contrabassoon for this Symphony No. 9 piece
He stepped out for a smoke during the 3d movement and never came back
what???? You gotta be kidding me.
It's a small chamber orchestra. It would be great to have had a contra, but we always seem to have to do without.
ここ好きすぎてやばい
Thank you!
Это оригинальная партия фаготов?!?
Да! Абсолютно. Зто оригинальная партия фаготов 1 и 2 в зтом сегменте!
I play trombone
Here yoy can hear (sorry), how this section is played incorrectly. Newd some tempo changes.
Sounds quite different from the main melody
It counterpoint, so it's not really supposed to be a melody, counterpoint is a harmonic tool that exists in music, the aim is to create a counter melody that can function independently while still harmonising with the main melody... You can hear it in all of Bach's music. Notice how the counterpoint complements the main theme, and even at times it echoes fragments of it. And that is what makes this so beautiful, because we don't have one counterpoint melody, but two.
It's different, but it has its own soul.
I've heard from primatologists that it's really hard to play a baboon.
I didn't get it until I took a second look at your comment... maybe that's because it was a double read instrument ?
john seems nervous
This is where the bassoon shines. Writing it primarily as a bass instrument is wasteful.