It is a Micheline subsidiary company, a 2nd tier tire company that is designed to compete against the budget price tires. KLEBER QUADRAXER 3 is based on the Micheline CrossClimet+/CrossClimate 2 with less warranty, MPG and minor performance differences.
Yes, thank you for this and your reply. Indeed (as I also put in the video description) it is based on the Michelin CrossClimate. That was more or less the reason I brought it up, since I did the comparison myself. In terms of MPG they are exactly the same on my vehicle and two other vehicles. Performance differences are indeed minor, some in favour of the CC2 and some in favour of the QD3. Same goes for longevity/tread wear, some tests say Michelin is better, some say the Kleber is better. I think the CrossClimate 2 is a great tire! But if the Quadraxer 3 can basically match it and at a much better price, than to me that is "better". But as I said, CrossClimate is definitely a great tire too.
The Kleber tread differs slightly it looks like the CC1 the sipes are straight not serrated as on the CC2 we have the CC2s on our Subaru and will be fitting them to our camper van when it’s due tyres.
They are indeed just slightly different when you look up close. In my experience the performance is identical still, but this can be car-dependent too. CrossClimate 2 is a great choice too!
For sure a very good tire in the wet, the Vred! Put it on a family member's Ford a year ago. Quite happy with it. Only slight drawback: it seems to have fairly high rolling resistance.
Well haven't done any driving on them in the summer, so I'm still on around 5000 km. They still look brand new after this. Will be fitting them soon for autumn/winter use abroad. I'll get back to you when I've done more km's on them, but as far as I can gather from most other people and tests the wear should be pretty good. Keep you posted...
It may well be a better performer PER DOLLAR SPENT than the Michelin, but it doesn't seem to be QUITE as good. Maybe close enough that the average driver will never even notice a difference, but there ARE differences. If you want that last few percentage points worth of performance, and cost is no object, get the Michelin.
Thank you for this and I appreciate you taking the time to reply! I definitely agree with most of what you're saying. Especially the fact that average drivers will not notice any differences in performance. I'm a big fan of Michelin tires myself but did quite a bit of research to see if CC2's were indeed "the best out there". I concluded that all the professional tests COMBINED (at least to ME) were inconclusive, basically because it was either very close OR in other cases CrossClimate 2 was ahead in one test and Quadraxer 3 was ahead in another test. So this video is mostly based on my own comparison experience, with a safety-bias towards wet performance and wet/dry braking. And yes, combined with pricing. ;-)
I have been using kleber q3 for only one year doing 6000km and must say I will make a complaint for 2 tires (those in front). Tire bloks are crooked and a bit worn out. The block rubber 'pills out' so to say. Micro breakings can be observed between tire bloks. I have china goodride 401 AS tires on my second car for 3 years and they (4 of them) look almost as if they were only half of the year on the road making a few kilometers. Very dissapointed with kleber. The reara tires look good yet!
Hmm, that doesn't really sound like how it's supposed to be. Especially after only 6000 km. I would definitely take them back to the tire shop and show them. Could be a production thing, or bad storage at the tire shop or any number of variables like weather and usage etc. But basically if there is something wrong, you are in your right to go to the seller and get it sorted out. My QD3's have done around 5.000 km now with DOT 4623 and still look brand new. Hope you can get it fixed and good luck!
Not sure about other tire shops, but Euromaster has 103 different sizes of the Kleber Quadraxer 3, which should probably be sufficient for most people/cars. But granted: CC2 has about 140 sizes at the same shop.
Well, I did put the links to all the objective, professional tests in the video description, didn't I? I am not a professional tire tester, so indeed my video is always to a certain degree subjective. I do, however, compare the CC2 and the Quadraxer 3 after driving them both on comparable cars in more or less the same conditions over longer periods. So therefore I believe I can comment at least with some confidence on their differences (or actually LACK of differences). I have no stake in either tire or company. Just my own experience and my own wallet. :-) In terms of objective data, please read the video description and see the links I have posted there. Hope that helps! Thanks for your reaction and drive safe!
Kleber is a good tyre brand. Was the tyre brand used on the Concorde for a number of years.
That's an interesting piece of history/info I did not know, thanks! And does this mean my Quadraxer 3's can run at supersonic speeds too...? ;-))
It is a Micheline subsidiary company, a 2nd tier tire company that is designed to compete against the budget price tires. KLEBER QUADRAXER 3 is based on the Micheline CrossClimet+/CrossClimate 2 with less warranty, MPG and minor performance differences.
Yes, thank you for this and your reply. Indeed (as I also put in the video description) it is based on the Michelin CrossClimate. That was more or less the reason I brought it up, since I did the comparison myself. In terms of MPG they are exactly the same on my vehicle and two other vehicles. Performance differences are indeed minor, some in favour of the CC2 and some in favour of the QD3. Same goes for longevity/tread wear, some tests say Michelin is better, some say the Kleber is better. I think the CrossClimate 2 is a great tire! But if the Quadraxer 3 can basically match it and at a much better price, than to me that is "better". But as I said, CrossClimate is definitely a great tire too.
The Kleber tread differs slightly it looks like the CC1 the sipes are straight not serrated as on the CC2 we have the CC2s on our Subaru and will be fitting them to our camper van when it’s due tyres.
They are indeed just slightly different when you look up close. In my experience the performance is identical still, but this can be car-dependent too. CrossClimate 2 is a great choice too!
Try Vredestein Quatrac..., especially in terms of aquaplaning-resistance and wet braking.
For sure a very good tire in the wet, the Vred! Put it on a family member's Ford a year ago. Quite happy with it. Only slight drawback: it seems to have fairly high rolling resistance.
@@dmhlados3615I love my Vredestein Quatrac tires (V shaped) but I might think about trying those bad boy Kleber tires next…… 😆
Hello how is the wear now ? How many km ?
Well haven't done any driving on them in the summer, so I'm still on around 5000 km. They still look brand new after this. Will be fitting them soon for autumn/winter use abroad. I'll get back to you when I've done more km's on them, but as far as I can gather from most other people and tests the wear should be pretty good. Keep you posted...
Many thanks @@dmhlados3615
Very helpful! Thanks
Glad to hear it! You're very welcome!
Nice footage! Looking forward to your Michelin PS5 video... Is it nearly summer yet? 😉
Thanks! And yes, hopefully summer is not far from us now
It may well be a better performer PER DOLLAR SPENT than the Michelin, but it doesn't seem to be QUITE as good. Maybe close enough that the average driver will never even notice a difference, but there ARE differences. If you want that last few percentage points worth of performance, and cost is no object, get the Michelin.
Thank you for this and I appreciate you taking the time to reply! I definitely agree with most of what you're saying. Especially the fact that average drivers will not notice any differences in performance. I'm a big fan of Michelin tires myself but did quite a bit of research to see if CC2's were indeed "the best out there". I concluded that all the professional tests COMBINED (at least to ME) were inconclusive, basically because it was either very close OR in other cases CrossClimate 2 was ahead in one test and Quadraxer 3 was ahead in another test.
So this video is mostly based on my own comparison experience, with a safety-bias towards wet performance and wet/dry braking. And yes, combined with pricing. ;-)
I have been using kleber q3 for only one year doing 6000km and must say I will make a complaint for 2 tires (those in front). Tire bloks are crooked and a bit worn out. The block rubber 'pills out' so to say. Micro breakings can be observed between tire bloks. I have china goodride 401 AS tires on my second car for 3 years and they (4 of them) look almost as if they were only half of the year on the road making a few kilometers. Very dissapointed with kleber. The reara tires look good yet!
Hmm, that doesn't really sound like how it's supposed to be. Especially after only 6000 km. I would definitely take them back to the tire shop and show them. Could be a production thing, or bad storage at the tire shop or any number of variables like weather and usage etc. But basically if there is something wrong, you are in your right to go to the seller and get it sorted out.
My QD3's have done around 5.000 km now with DOT 4623 and still look brand new.
Hope you can get it fixed and good luck!
4 years quad 2 all year round and even 40c plus
Sounds good! :)
5:15 of unnerving soundtrack.
Just sucks not enough tire sizes,need to expand tire size like cc2
Not sure about other tire shops, but Euromaster has 103 different sizes of the Kleber Quadraxer 3, which should probably be sufficient for most people/cars. But granted: CC2 has about 140 sizes at the same shop.
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Well, I did put the links to all the objective, professional tests in the video description, didn't I? I am not a professional tire tester, so indeed my video is always to a certain degree subjective. I do, however, compare the CC2 and the Quadraxer 3 after driving them both on comparable cars in more or less the same conditions over longer periods. So therefore I believe I can comment at least with some confidence on their differences (or actually LACK of differences). I have no stake in either tire or company. Just my own experience and my own wallet. :-) In terms of objective data, please read the video description and see the links I have posted there. Hope that helps! Thanks for your reaction and drive safe!