TAG 2 Revisited | The Glory Days Of Armor King
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You should keep doing these character breakdowns from the older games. It's super interesting
Even his mask took a huge nerf. It used to be different from King's. In Tekken 7, they just recolored King's mask and put it on Armor King.
THIS.
@@Ovororo Glad I am not the only one who noticed.
Holy cow, you’re right
Really? I always thought AK's mask in T7 looks worse and different than King's. Could be just the different colors tho idk.
Holy shit ur right
“Throws are very powerful”, flashbacks of double bob teams spamming throws
Tekken tag 2 is really really fun. I wish that it could be ported to Steam
I would buy it instantly never got a chance to play tag games. Tekken tag 3 sounds crazy 10 year from now 😅
If it had a scene, I would play it over T7 in a heartbeat.
Movement and throw system should go back to TTT2.
Bro u can play using cemu emulator
@@holden6104 it will have a community if it's on ps4 or steam
I am kind of nostalgic for ttt2 despite its flaws. I played aking true ogre and could do a 165 dmg combo that ended in a giant swing. I landed that 1 time online and I still remember how nice it felt
Also i figured aking was never going to be in t7 exactly because king has so many of his notable moves. Im glad he is though. I just prefer the way he plays
I do miss true ogre. Everything else though...ick.
I prefer AKs moves too. I'm a long time pro wrestling fan and AK's Japanese Puroresu inspired style is a lot more appealing than King's more traditional Catch style.
Itsallover57 I just miss Michelle. It’s so unfair how she isn’t allowed in canon games because of age.
This game was better than t7 lol
Better sidestep backdash,the characters weren't on roids..
Capos b14 was bad yeah but cmon
It's not king's fault armor king was late to the party. Though to be fair he was probably late because he was busy making the best costume out of the roster.
Would you consider potentially covering the Jin Omen Stance glitch? The glitch that gives any character access into Jin's specific stance is honestly one of my favorite glitches in any game, and I would spend a lot of time just doing impractical combos.
Here's how to do it for anyone wants to know:
This only works facing Jin & Panda. Recording the CPU, use Tag Assault as Jin, and as Panda do f+3+4, 1+2. The 3+4 must whiff, and just when Panda's 1+2 connects, do Jin's B+1+2 (Power Stance). The Power Stance must connect before the 3+4. If that's done, replay the CPU and tech roll (thats how I get it more consistently) and if its done correctly, your character will enter Omen Stance. This works on nearly the whole cast.
It functions pretty oddly but its awesome to see almost any character do electrics, hellsweeps, and even some Jin tools for a little bit.
You should make a vid about it, that sounds cool. Cant find it anywhere
@@Eeleou heres a video i used for reference. th-cam.com/video/KjvtIsAjDJI/w-d-xo.html
I wish Armor King had better mids and sidestep in Tekken 7.
Also i'm starting to wonder if you're making AK videos until they buff him XD.
Not that i mind, buff my Main Bandai please.
I think hes pretty good tbh
@@drel_underheaven908 he is pretty good , in a game where others are amazing
@@knife9185 would you rather play gigas then💀
@@knife9185 Yeah. If you compare King and Armor Kings damage, frame advantsge and frame startup.
Armor King has to work almost twice as hard as King, and King got way better grab mix ups on top of that.
To me AK could use better mids, a bit better + frames for his pokes, and more damage. He is supose to be a more hard hitting King, while King has better grabs.
True
That last combo at 13:37 looks like a rage art XD
You actually mained Armor King? I love your PAIN videos back then!
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 still my favourite
Better sidestep also made a huge difference for him.
That’s part of movement
12:54
Main Man Kicks Goose Out Of Existance
I'm really enjoying these TTT2 throwbacks!
I hope they buff him I love how JDCR plays Armor King its so enjoyable
That ground throw also prevented tag crashes which was super good
This character made me buy the game...
I miss this game so much ! Best Tekken Game For Me!
You certanly din't play this game online, 4 having such a good experience
@@dan3195 back in the days TTT2 netcoding was better than many fighting games on that time! I was playing Ranked all day long where I live i was getting good matchups!
@@KAKASHILEGEND22 Nice, it's refreshing to hear someone who had good experience whit this game.
Imo, not the best Tekken ever, but I do have a great time with this game.
@@Adam7180 it's your opinion, you are free to say so
king more popular than armor king ? could swear it was the 180º way around
ak only got popular in tk6 and tag 2 so tmm is not wrong there. cause when tekken 3 introduced RDC with king.. boy oh boy many players played king just for the RDC and other chaintrows with that muscle buster ender
You're right, that WAS a sick combo!
Armor King should be returned to his former glory
What hellish desire made you come back to this psychosomatic breakdown of a videogame???!
Haha i feel you. TT2 is an amazing game but it's not polish.
His 3+4 oki in this game also doesn’t work in tekken 7 because of how back rolls where changed
Also in t7 the first hit of his ss+2,1 doesn't cause a nose bleed stun
@@BilalKhan-ng3ex that was changed first in tekken revolution
Sorry, I commented before watching the video. TMM mentions it
Is no one gonna talk how the duck suddenly disappeared at 12:55?
Awesome dude, Armor king rocks
King shouldn't have AK's d3. The developer team should remove it from him
Spoiler : they wont. They don't even listens to their community
Prof Chen reverted hell sweep tracking update? Ganryu? Lei that nobody plays?
My main team in tag 2 was bryan/armor king. Armor King was kino in Tag 2. I dropped him in Tekken 7 because he is just so much weaker thanks to the T7 meta. The throw break window being massive, the nerfed movement, and his worthless rage drive makes AK almost not worth the frustration to git gud with him. AK needs some serious buffs in season 4
Love the content mainman, I'm addicted to this channel
AK in TTG2 was a monster
Yes, please do more older tekken games mainman!
How they butcher my boy armor king in tekken 7 i kinda miss SS 2,1 of TT2 sometimes to when i play AK in T7
I hated that!
that happened first in tekken revolution because the bound system is gone and all bound strings were revamped
but the buff they got is they cause a bound without having to connect the 1st hit
Finaly revisited series, thanks for content
Hey MainMan been watching you for a while but I just bought Tekken and am hoping to get a bit better.
JohnnyTheFlash good luck bro. It’s going to be a grind
welcome to one of the best fighting games ever
ultra lord and equally most frustrating games to play online
Hey Johnny
Just to clarify, is the game Tekken 7?
If it is, play Lucky Chole. :3
@@emberz3778 the game is Tekken 7. Also I have decided to try picking up Julia.
Ak's B1 CH combo should be more consistent
Truestuff armor king is very strong in ttt2🔥
TTT2 jim review next?
More of content like this please, we like tekken, we want to know about past games, and just typical t7 matches we can watch on twitch, so its really better to do here this interisting kind of stuff about old games. Like
Aking player are usually really good they all have great fundamentals, never ran into noob aking
Rarely but some abuse db3 or db4 which are useless offline
@@Zlatko815 but db3 is shit on normal hit and its slow and easy to read esp if they spam it db4 is just a mid that doesnt even do that much damage
@@junioromoruyi149 db3 is the 6+ on hit sweep and db4 is the dropkick
@@Zlatko815 yeah yeah i got db2 confused w db4 i realized this after posting my comment but couldnt be f editing it
hellsweep and dropkick r slow tho your opponent can easily read it if abused the wind up animation just gives it away
I also love Kazuya and Armor King.
That combo was sick and i really hope they buff him a little bit
Great video as always but I have to disagree with one thing. Since AK got released everyone shits on his ss 2,1 and how it doesn't nosebleed anymore. Now let's say it will nosebleed again then what? You dealt 10 dmg with ss 2 and your 3+4 dealt another 6 maybe 8 points of dmg great buff isn't it, totally fixed AK. But I agree to 100% that he doesn't fit into the T7 system. He was taken out straight out of TTT2 then they "adjusted" his poking damage for T7, then gave him two new sup par string extensions and called it a day. I don't want to say that they fucked AK up but he has so many weaknesses in this game and the only thing he is good at right now is his standing punishment. I know how harada didn't like jdcr playing AK using his d4 alot but he only has the most basic poke set you can have and AK has no really good moves because he is always minus on block and the few plus on block moves he does have, straight up suck. And the worst part is that they probably won't buff AK even though he is in dire need of buffs.
(edit: spelling)
they don't even talk about the buff ss21 and the other bound strings got
the 2nd hit will cause a bound instead of force crouch if the 1st one wasn't connected
When people shit on his ss2,1 it's just not about the damage, it's also about how they go down and then you can choose whether to go for oki or or the extra damage + setup if you had any ( like a cheeky ass unblockable from backturn)
But yeah the main nerf to him was the toned down movement
@@lancerblaze1284 it's bothering that tekken revolution existed for years yet no one saw how ss21 was changed first there
Harri Kirvesniemi yoshi doesnt need any buff in Tekken 7. He's mid tier and that's ok for now. Don't say stupid things about my main rn.
@@fasoooli2751 yeah apparently that got under the bus. I can see why tho there were some who just played tt2 and never went with revolution
So you basically have a smaller amount of people noticed it but when t7 came everyone migrated to it and then saw all the changes that has been done
This applies pretty much to all characters
Early Geese concept in the background.
Hey MainMan! Can you please make a reaction video on Lil Majin’s video about how King’s Rage Drive is the best in the game. Thx!
They should really bring back d2 being +12 on CH. Unnecessary change.
when was it +12?
Still play this game
apparently online, tag 2 actually had some leniency on throws when you played online
also I really prefer tag 2's music tbh
Love your revisited videos!!
Fuck the throws in TT2 just impossible to break without a lot of practice. Those low hits + throws are disgusting
Kazuya and armour king let’s go tmm bring back your team from 2014!!
I'm new but I'm playing armor king and IT's really difficult dealin with string heavy characters .
If only they kept the movement the same in Tekken 7.
If they added the old ss2 back i dont think it will be as good because of t7 movement and tracking. plus if AK gets buffed everyone will know about the 3+4 catch.
it's gone for an obvious reason
the bound system is changed overall
This isn't pewdiepie, but I like it
10:25 Mainman did you just make a cat pun? Did you just do that?
Make a video where you suggest buffs for armor king and nerfs for king
Can bandai namco just hire TMM as their head of balancing team? Do we start the petitioning?
Yes tag 2 haha! Play a ranked set, still capo crazy i bet
Df2 is the move that if fixed in t7 would solve 90% of AKs problems, but ak mains are more concerned with bitching about king than fixing their character. As if nerfing king would make ak top 10 or something like he doesn't have 50 other matchups to worry about.
literally every AK main is asking for buffs not king nerfs
Themainmanswe I have question how do u do that sit up thing with armor king?
Guys u can play ttt2 on cemu emulator with 60fps
as long time ak player.. i was devastated by tekken 7 new mechanics and oki nerfs overall.. i knew if ak was available from day one...the game isn't friendly at all with wrestlers.. hence why marduk isn't available as well.. king was an exception due to his popularity..overtime i accepted new tekken 7 mechanics but AK sadly wasn't compensated with the losses he has..
i can't believe that namco went that far to nerf the character bcz of how jdcr uses him.. unbelievable..
f1+4 became 13f instead of 14f
he got a new 14f db24 punisher
ch f343 now connects
qcf1 faster recover
f4 became +2 and fc as well
seriously stop strawmmaning when you don't even bother what buff he got
@@fasoooli2751 maybe you shouldn't post these silly buffs when you have no idea what ak is capable of since tekk6 or ttt2 days.. these buffs are nothing to compare to... oh yes.. welcome to tekken 7 new boy.
@@dino339 let me guess
you'll talk about ss21 again? it's really obvious why all bound strings were revamped in this game
Well at least they buffed him really good in Season 4
Its kinda sad that TTT2 could have been one of the best if not the best tekken game of all time... unfortunately, game didnt sale well wich is why there was any balance after launch.
I love the game, i just dont love how stupid the combo damage is, clones, shit load of characters and balancing problems in general
The game didn't sell many copies cause noobs got destroyed...
I do hope in the next tekken they will give armor king justice, he just feels too restrained in tekken 7
ttt2 better for me than t7. Hate revenge-based 90% hp invul/armor super art system like t7 or sf4
It is your opinion, I am not going to change it.
This is why throw breaking in t7 is such a joke. People who are "good" at t7, get destroyed when I play them in T5, T6 or TTT2 bc everything is normal and not dumbed down like in T7. Tekken God Prime doesn't mean shit in T7
Tekken 7 has been a joke since release, and continues to get worse with each update.
@@r.o.o.k. yup.
At least there aren't preachers in Tekken 7 unlike you.
@@Adam7180 at least I'm good at tekken, un like u 😂🤣
@@2hot4u68 at least I can play more then 20 characters.
Do one for king
been playin tekken 6 on xboxone ak is so much better there plus the stages in 6 are better then tag2 an 7
I hated what how he's weak in T7!
f1+4 became 13f instead of 14f
he got a new 14f db24 punisher
ch f343 now connects
qcf1 faster recover
f4 became +2 and fc as well
i don't see how he's weak
@@fasoooli2751 when did this happen? Last video I watched tmm showed armor King desperately needs buffs! Because his db3 and hopkick had terrible range! And there's others!
@@Prince-Shogun these buffs happened since he came in this game duh
@@fasoooli2751 well, I didn't hear of it! So it's not obvious!
look how they massacred my boy
Ow, a real Tekken with 3D movement, not like Tekken 7.
What are you talking about?
@@Adam7180 You are replying a comment from about a year ago, and I still think the same, Tekken 7 is not a Tekken game. And I'm smelling that Tekken 8 will be the same shit without good movement. Last true Tekken was TTT2.
@@Raxel7 i think tekken 7 is a good game tho, but the movement needs to be a lil stronger. It is a great game tho
@@Raxel7 dont you remember tekken 4 movement? It is like sidestep doesn't even sidestep. And then they change it back to strong movement in T5
@@Adam7180 But my man, I don't count T4, its was pretty like a glitchy meme game (but fun). Tekken became Tekken After TTT1 (T4 excluded).
I was wondering are you using a PS3 or an emulator?
Armor King was great as a whiff punisher, unfortunately he had horrible combos to the point the one thing you did after hitting Dark Upper was always tagging in to King or whatever partner you had. His combo synergy with King was decent enough, which was a bless since his own combo abilities were mediocre at best. CH db+3, WS+4, d+2 for example the d+2 here just barely hits by a smidge, a pixel of a hitbox. If you were to be even a slight bit off axis this combo is doomed to whiff. His wall combo abilities were horrid because d+2,4,3 doesn't exist in this game and his other strings whiff AND his only menacing ground throw is db+2+4 and that one always gets broken by good players. He still suffers from not having good hitboxes in his moves, a good df+1 and d+1,N+4 but unremarkable df+2 (other than as a bound, and even that was generally outshined by d+2) mediocre hopkick, and even his standard 1,2 was among the WORST (and still is in T7 it seems) 1,2's in Tekken due to how the 2nd hit misses half the time (sure, you can still use 2,1 most of the time, but not after a sidestep). His command grabs, while excellent by the rest of the character standards, were still "not as good as King's" standard (unlike his brother in T1/T2/Tag 1 who had command throws identical to King's, Armor King II's throws are always a step behind King's equivalents, except for df+2+3 maybe). This includes his f,f,f+2+4 airthrow which doesn't even give terrifying oki as King's does. This is why I rated TTT2 AK as slightly behind TTT2 King in tiers in spite of his superior whiff punishment and better poking.
Man I miss TT2, ima re download it 😁
T7 King f+2,1 and d+3 no original :(, T5-T6 poke pressure f+2,2,1/2 very cool and d3 no good, but basically, more f+2,d+1,2 it is Marduk move T6. King is not bad, but i really hate with 2 key move is Armor King on King move list in T7.
Can you analyze Hwoarang in Tekken 5? He's the only character to beat Jin legitimately in a tournament, in the 5th tournament. Also, he can cancel his backlash into flamingo by tapping forward
I think they will make AK SS+2,1 hit confirmable
how
the string itself doesn't have a delay window
@@fasoooli2751 by giving that back of course (:
@@Garupan the delay never existed before
@@fasoooli2751 It existed in T6
@@Garupan well it's gone and makes no sense bringing it back
I just bought AK, talk with the guy in balancing so they buff hun please he so fun to play 😂 plz there's no consistent way to connect ch b1, 3+4
just go for ss alley kicks. never fails me.
Do a quick forward forward input after the ch1. Also you need to take into account that the move doesn't work on larger characters so you need to have an alternative in mind.
@@cxkxr1212 but have way less damage:(
@@spectraphantom777 To make it connect on larger ones you have to SSR and step cancel into 3+4. Note that this only works on P2 side. Anyway, the option Coker mentions is a nice alternative to apply in large characters too, guaranteed a burning knuckle after tailspin (you have to dash forward after the spin).
@@spectraphantom777 oof thank.you. really good advice, will try it ¿any other advice you can give me? I will appreciate it
Bring tag back
No, they won't do it again after what happened with Tag 2.
Hello :)
As an Armor King main... I feel neglected... They just don't care about Armor King.. :(
he is the true king,too bad he is weak in tekken 7 i would buy him
he's not weak he got lots of buffs when he was introduced
FasoOoLi Shami I’m talking about now today..I purchase Fahkumram instead and he is good too Arkana ash new favorite
notice me MainMan
Woooooo😎
make ss2, 1 hit confirmable. Us AK mains don't ask for much lol
the revamped bound strings like ss21 aren't meant to have a delay window
@@fasoooli2751 but characters do have it, like nina's uf2,1 and bryan's f4,1. Pretty sure they were bound tools in ttt2
@@walterg9321 ik they are
but they have a delay window in t7?
@@fasoooli2751 yep! Especially ninas uf2,1 is super delayable
@@walterg9321 how is it going to be hit confirmable tho? He steps back when ss2 connects
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Tekken tag hahahaha
Armor king rage drive sucks and he makes no pressure and he is too slow... he deserves a buff in tekken 7
He really should.
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