Just bought the exact same bow I bought in 1962 with paper route money. Yep, I'm that old, and that was my second bow. My first bow my dad bought me when I was 6. It was wood, made by a Penobscot Indian and bought on Indian Island in the middle of the Penobscot River. How cool was that. Been shooting compound and love it but, you know. I'm a ground hunter, public land, deer, turkey. So, I'm going to take another step back. It's 35 pound, 54 inch Bear, Gray Fox. Just ordered through Three Rivers, arrows and equipment. Excited. Excellent leather work, love the quiver. Lots of great info, much appreciated.
Well, I for one am very interested in bowhunting with a recurve, and indeed generally understanding the trad world, so please ignore naysayers and continue this kind of content! Thank you so much for the great content!
Good luck this fall. Nice work on the arm guard. I'm happy to see y'all showing more traditional archery on the channel. I enjoy hunting traditional as it seem to make hunting more enjoyable for me.
The sage is a great bow! Can definitely hold its own against much more expensive bows. Only reason I switch was because the grip wasn't quite right for my hand. On a side note jake kaminski (Olympic silver medalist) has a TH-cam channel on form that might help alot of trad shooters out.
Trad fanatic here for about 45 years . Longbows , Recurves and Hybrids . I have 8 now , once I had 14 .and love them all . Howard Hill , Black Swan , Habu , Acadian Woods , Bear and more .
I’m thinking of returning to the recurve for instinctive stump shooting. I simply miss it, even though I love my compound bow. Lighter draw weight, I was much more accurate than going heavy! As a kid, I taught myself to shoot my Daisy Red Ryder BB gun instinctive, before I even knew what that ment, because the sights were useless. I got to the point, with both eyes on the target, & watching the flight of the BB, & the butt of the gun on top my shoulder, & looking down the side of the barrel, I could eventually hit bugs, or plug a sand ant hole with my BB. With enough practice, you can get that good & accurate with a bow too. I shot so much, I wore that BB gun out!
I been bow hunting for 30 years as well. I want to get into traditional bows for the same reasons you state. We have a special season in January here in West Virginia. You can only use traditional equipment, and flintlock rifles, no percussion. Just wanted to see if I liked it or not. Thanks for the video.
Great video, I started out in tradition archery, I found a long bow in an abandoned house we were cleaning out, I still use that bow, it's 65 lbs. Then I bought a bear recurve from a guy at work, I used that thing religiously, and then about three years ago the limbs shattered on me. After that I didn't even think about archery for about four years but last week I got some arrows for my long bow, and im getting back into it. Now I just need to find a decent recurve, been looking in Amazon, but I am on a tight budget so I'm waiting until I find a deal. Thanks for sharing, I know i need to work on consistent form, I'm going to get a clicker. I'm also going to dabble in arrow and string making, because I absolutely love this sport and I want to pass it down to my children.
I got The black hunter recurve. I made the mistake of getting the 50lb limbs. I went from not hitting the target, to keeping a 5 inch area per 3 shots at 20 yards. This is all new to me lol. So far I have learn quite a bit. The more you practice the better you will become. I enjoy archery with my recurve. I had a crossbow once before and didn’t really care for it. There wasn’t much of a challenge
Thank you for sharing it has been well over thirty years since I shot a recurve bow and I would like to resume what I started so long ago and go hunt with a trad bow.
Hey, good luck to you. I too switched from compounds to trad. 45 pound longbow this year. I’m now pretty solid out to about 30 yards ... but we hunt mulies which are not as spry as whitetail. Subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to following your videos. God bless. Tom
Bodnik Bows make excellent affordable bows that feature a 30 year warranty!! I purchased both the Recurve and the longbow and I find both to be a joy to shoot and hunt with and of course the recurve bow is slightly faster which is to be expected.. Enjoy!! 🏹🦌🏹🦌🏹🦌
Thank you for this video. I've been looking into getting into Traditional archery. Was wondering what bow I should start with, I believe you may of helped me. Thank you sir!!!
A 45 pound recurve bow is ideal. Shooting can be learned and the draw weight is plenty for taking game animals. However, arrow spine is critical lighter is better with plenty of FOC and I learned that the hard way by being an expert and a know it all who couldn’t hit the broad side of an airplane hanger!!
I’m wanting to get into recurve hunting but I’ll need to be able to shoot 30 yards a lot of times. Do you think an able person could get proficient from 30?
I made that mistake getting back into archery. I thought I'd grow into a 50... quickly found my form suffering and shoulder sore. I have a 40 pound bow on the way now lol
What arrow rest did you put on your bow. Thanks for the video, I also went back to the long bow this year. I’m 55yo started hunting in 1976 with the bear grizzly , moved into modern compounds and it’s not the same. Thanks have a great season.
I want to start learning archery but I'm not sure what kind of bow to start with. Is better to start with a recurve or compound? and what bow should I get? Thank you. I've shot a now when I was younger with my uncle who is a hunter as well as several of my family members but I'm 44 now and would like to learn so I can teach my boys.
If you haven't bought a bow yet,. I recommend you start with a recurve and stay traditional. It's so simple and you can learn how to build some cedar arrows with your boys. If you like simplicity and like to save money, go the traditional route. It'll make you a great hunter and the recurve is a very capable weapon with a sharp fixed blade broadhead. I personally like instinctive shooting the most as I feel like I can hunt a little longer at night. As long as i can still see the deer. As with a compound , you need to make sure you can still see your sight pin. Also if something comes in on you fast, I feel like it's quicker to engage with a recurve opposed to lining up the peep hole and finding your pin with a compound. Just getting a new string strung up on your new set of training wheels can cost upwards of $75. For $75, in the traditional archery world,. You can buy a lot. You can find an old Herters, Shakespeare, or Bear recurve at a rubbage sale for so cheap. Just make sure the limbs are straight, order a new string for $10. Maybe put a new arrow rest I it and boom you have a working bow that needs to be tuned. A compound can cost over a grand these days. And people are constantly upgrading... My 1962 Bear Kodiak is timeless. It's just beautiful man,. And shes a silent killer to anything within 20 yards. As long as theres not a twig in the way! Happy hunting 🤟
I am a 23 year old man who is regular build but stronger than average. I have never shot a bow before. Should i get a hunting weight such as 45# or should i start out with something lighter to get my form? Thanks.
I'm 53 and 5' 7". Medium build. I have no problem with 50 lbs in my traditional and self bows. Been bow hunting since I was 14. Once you shoot a few months with good form, you will learn to use your back muscles to hold that draw back and lock in with your shoulder blade muscles. Once you get it right, you'll know. Good luck.
One other thing. I played with string walking early on, and I gave it up because I don’t like getting my nose slapped and I didn’t want to have to keep tape on it. How are you keeping that from happening?
Just curious, did you end up taking a whitetail with a trad bow? I’m thinking of doing the same thing this year, switching from compound to recurve. Thanks!
Archers!! Good News!!! 45 Lbs draw weight at 28 inches is light enough for accuracy and heavy enough to put an arrow through game animals Including Hogs Deer Bear what have you! The key is practice. Don’t be above correction and use scary sharp Broad heads as if you don’t know that!!!😂🤣😎🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🙏🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌
25 yard limit with a compound is fine- as long as you don't plan on shooting much. I've never got that close to a large buck. Dumb does and young bucks ? Sure
"My Dad's motto was, if I wasn't strong enough to pull it back I needed to bale more hay, and if I couldn't pull it back far enough, I needed to grow longer arms." If I wasn't in the UK, I'd suspect we had the same father ...
"Linguists have thought for many years the length of words is related to the frequency of use, with short words used more often than long ones. Now researchers in the US have shown the length is more closely related to the amount of information the words carry than their frequency of use. A link between the length of words and how frequently they are used was first proposed in 1935 by George Kingsley Zipf, a Harvard University linguist and philologist. Zipf's idea was that people would tend to shorten words they used often, to save time in writing and speaking. The relationship seems intuitive and it seems to apply to many languages with short words such as “the”, “a”, “to”, “and”, “so” (and equivalents in other languages) being frequently used. Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), led by Steven Piantadosi, tested the Zipf relationship by analysing word use in 11 European languages. They analyzed digitized texts for correlations between words by counting how often all pairs of words occurred in sequence. This information was then used to estimate the probability of words occurring after given previous words or sequences of words. They made the assumption that the more predictable a word is, the less information it conveys, and estimated the information content from information theory, which says the information content is proportional to the negative logarithm of the probability of a word occurring. Piantadosi said if the word length is directly related to information content this would make the transmission of information through language more efficient and also make speech and written texts easier to understand. This is because shorter words, carrying less information, would be scattered through the speech, essentially “smoothing out” the information density and delivering the important information at a steady rate. The studies suggest that the short words are in fact the least informative and most predictable words rather than the most often used, and that word length is more closely related to the information the words contain. The paper is soon to be published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS). Steven Piantadosi belongs to the PhD program with MIT’s Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences." by Lin Edwards , Phys.org
Funny. You’re worried about abbreviating words when you can’t use proper grammar. You should have asked, why “do”, not “does”. Also it should be my two “cents” not “since”. Try educating yourself before you publicly criticize others.
Sounds like he is trying to be a trendy high schooler. “Hey dude, you shooting Trad or Pound” ? “Ugghh I shoot Trad man, used to shoot pound but I like the challenge of the trad”
Stop using all your fingers in your hook, learn some back tension, and for the love of god don’t try to shoot a animal! Stick to compounds leave the struggle sticks to the guys that are dedicated
Just bought the exact same bow I bought in 1962 with paper route money. Yep, I'm that old, and that was my second bow. My first bow my dad bought me when I was 6. It was wood, made by a Penobscot Indian and bought on Indian Island in the middle of the Penobscot River. How cool was that. Been shooting compound and love it but, you know. I'm a ground hunter, public land, deer, turkey. So, I'm going to take another step back. It's 35 pound, 54 inch Bear, Gray Fox. Just ordered through Three Rivers, arrows and equipment. Excited.
Excellent leather work, love the quiver. Lots of great info, much appreciated.
Well, I for one am very interested in bowhunting with a recurve, and indeed generally understanding the trad world, so please ignore naysayers and continue this kind of content! Thank you so much for the great content!
Thanks David!
Good luck this fall. Nice work on the arm guard. I'm happy to see y'all showing more traditional archery on the channel. I enjoy hunting traditional as it seem to make hunting more enjoyable for me.
As a guy thats getting into hunting with recurves and also ropes I loved this video. Great video, and it was super helpful. Thank you
The sage is a great bow! Can definitely hold its own against much more expensive bows. Only reason I switch was because the grip wasn't quite right for my hand. On a side note jake kaminski (Olympic silver medalist) has a TH-cam channel on form that might help alot of trad shooters out.
Nice video, I have been back and forth with trad. This summer is focused on trad. That's what brought me here
That fixed crawl is a great way to get into trad. Have fun!
Trad fanatic here for about 45 years . Longbows , Recurves and Hybrids . I have 8 now , once I had 14 .and love them all . Howard Hill , Black Swan , Habu , Acadian Woods , Bear and more .
I’m thinking of returning to the recurve for instinctive stump shooting. I simply miss it, even though I love my compound bow.
Lighter draw weight, I was much more accurate than going heavy!
As a kid, I taught myself to shoot my Daisy Red Ryder BB gun instinctive, before I even knew what that ment, because the sights were useless.
I got to the point, with both eyes on the target, & watching the flight of the BB, & the butt of the gun on top my shoulder, & looking down the side of the barrel, I could eventually hit bugs, or plug a sand ant hole with my BB.
With enough practice, you can get that good & accurate with a bow too.
I shot so much, I wore that BB gun out!
I like the added (release) "flick" with extended fingers, I think that helps with accuracy. Great technique!
I been bow hunting for 30 years as well. I want to get into traditional bows for the same reasons you state. We have a special season in January here in West Virginia. You can only use traditional equipment, and flintlock rifles, no percussion. Just wanted to see if I liked it or not. Thanks for the video.
Great video, I started out in tradition archery, I found a long bow in an abandoned house we were cleaning out, I still use that bow, it's 65 lbs. Then I bought a bear recurve from a guy at work, I used that thing religiously, and then about three years ago the limbs shattered on me. After that I didn't even think about archery for about four years but last week I got some arrows for my long bow, and im getting back into it.
Now I just need to find a decent recurve, been looking in Amazon, but I am on a tight budget so I'm waiting until I find a deal.
Thanks for sharing, I know i need to work on consistent form, I'm going to get a clicker. I'm also going to dabble in arrow and string making, because I absolutely love this sport and I want to pass it down to my children.
What did you end up getting
Really cool gear. Thanks for sharing your journey.
Nice form and I think you know what you are talking about, hope to se more of your videos.
I got The black hunter recurve. I made the mistake of getting the 50lb limbs. I went from not hitting the target, to keeping a 5 inch area per 3 shots at 20 yards. This is all new to me lol. So far I have learn quite a bit. The more you practice the better you will become. I enjoy archery with my recurve. I had a crossbow once before and didn’t really care for it. There wasn’t much of a challenge
Thank you for sharing it has been well over thirty years since I shot a recurve bow and I would like to resume what I started so long ago and go hunt with a trad bow.
Hey, good luck to you. I too switched from compounds to trad. 45 pound longbow this year. I’m now pretty solid out to about 30 yards ... but we hunt mulies which are not as spry as whitetail. Subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to following your videos. God bless. Tom
Thanks for Subscribing!
This set up is awesome thank you
Bodnik Bows make excellent affordable bows that feature a 30 year warranty!!
I purchased both the Recurve and the longbow and I find both to be a joy to shoot and hunt with and of course the recurve bow is slightly faster which is to be expected.. Enjoy!! 🏹🦌🏹🦌🏹🦌
Wow man, that's some beautiful leatherwork!
Great job Brother 💯🇺🇲😎👍
Thank you for this video. I've been looking into getting into Traditional archery. Was wondering what bow I should start with, I believe you may of helped me. Thank you sir!!!
Wow awesome video, love the ingenuity and skill in your setup. Wish you success on your hunts.
I also live in WI born and raised i want to get into traditional archery I have never bow hunted before I think this will be a fun
Great vid ! Just started traditionnal archery as well and man it is as addicting as you say. Keep it up !
What a great video! Thanks for sharing.
Great video, thanks man!
Good to see your setup, good luck to you! I switched from compound to trad a year ago and your right, it’s addictive!! Keep it up 👌
All around good advice.
Step 1: tell everyone you shoot “trad” lol
Sounded Completely douchey
@@moneyandtimefreedom3352 what’s “trad”
@@Ryan-fosho traditional
This lol, he lost me at clicker. "tRaD"
A 45 pound recurve bow is ideal. Shooting can be learned and the draw weight is plenty for taking game animals. However, arrow spine is critical lighter is better with plenty of FOC and I learned that the hard way by being an expert and a know it all who couldn’t hit the broad side of an airplane hanger!!
See my videos. That was with a 40 at 22 yards.
50+
It definitely is fun to shoot traditional. I'll bet it builds up shooting skills. I still get buck fever & miss with a compound and crossbow.
That’s awesome bud great work on the arm protect. So what’s your leather company I would like to get some work done on my saddles .
oh men, I like your hohesty! Nice video. Good luck! greetings from Sweden!
I’m wanting to get into recurve hunting but I’ll need to be able to shoot 30 yards a lot of times. Do you think an able person could get proficient from 30?
I like the look of the bow, but I'd love it if it didn't have the arrow storage attached to the bow.
I made that mistake getting back into archery. I thought I'd grow into a 50... quickly found my form suffering and shoulder sore. I have a 40 pound bow on the way now lol
A beautiful arm guard.
Do you make custom arm guards for others? I wouldn’t mind paying for a custom one?
What if one were to be 29.5 draw with compound how would that go into a draw for this particular recurve?
I hope you got your deer.
Thanks for the video.
Great video! Are you shooting off of the shelf? And are you using an adjustable side plate?
Thank you
Nice Channel!! Very Informative!!
Can we get an update on the trad bow journey
What is the shaft size?? Of the arrows
What arrow rest did you put on your bow. Thanks for the video, I also went back to the long bow this year. I’m 55yo started hunting in 1976 with the bear grizzly , moved into modern compounds and it’s not the same. Thanks have a great season.
The approach screams fly fishing to me and that's what intrigues me about it
Shooting the fish heading upstream, or the shooting the ones who catch them? :-)
I want to start learning archery but I'm not sure what kind of bow to start with. Is better to start with a recurve or compound? and what bow should I get?
Thank you.
I've shot a now when I was younger with my uncle who is a hunter as well as several of my family members but I'm 44 now and would like to learn so I can teach my boys.
If you haven't bought a bow yet,. I recommend you start with a recurve and stay traditional. It's so simple and you can learn how to build some cedar arrows with your boys. If you like simplicity and like to save money, go the traditional route. It'll make you a great hunter and the recurve is a very capable weapon with a sharp fixed blade broadhead. I personally like instinctive shooting the most as I feel like I can hunt a little longer at night. As long as i can still see the deer. As with a compound , you need to make sure you can still see your sight pin. Also if something comes in on you fast, I feel like it's quicker to engage with a recurve opposed to lining up the peep hole and finding your pin with a compound. Just getting a new string strung up on your new set of training wheels can cost upwards of $75. For $75, in the traditional archery world,. You can buy a lot. You can find an old Herters, Shakespeare, or Bear recurve at a rubbage sale for so cheap. Just make sure the limbs are straight, order a new string for $10. Maybe put a new arrow rest I it and boom you have a working bow that needs to be tuned. A compound can cost over a grand these days. And people are constantly upgrading... My 1962 Bear Kodiak is timeless. It's just beautiful man,. And shes a silent killer to anything within 20 yards. As long as theres not a twig in the way! Happy hunting 🤟
I bought one of those bows for my daughter she loves it. I think it was a samick sage?
Can't wait to see Josh smoke some WI deer with the stick bow. Awesome setup and video!
Real mean use recurves sure fps is nice but the feel of taking down a grizzly with a recurve is gonna be amazing
Suggestions on lbs for thr bow for beginners?
If you've never shot a bow before, 30-40 pounds would be good for a beginner.
I’d like to see a tutorial video on tying that clicker in
Pretty cool 👍😎
I am a 23 year old man who is regular build but stronger than average. I have never shot a bow before. Should i get a hunting weight such as 45# or should i start out with something lighter to get my form? Thanks.
You should be fine starting at 45lbs. It might be a good idea to start a little lower, but 45lbs will work for you.
I'm 53 and 5' 7". Medium build. I have no problem with 50 lbs in my traditional and self bows. Been bow hunting since I was 14. Once you shoot a few months with good form, you will learn to use your back muscles to hold that draw back and lock in with your shoulder blade muscles. Once you get it right, you'll know. Good luck.
How did you mount your quiver bracket to the bow?
One other thing. I played with string walking early on, and I gave it up because I don’t like getting my nose slapped and I didn’t want to have to keep tape on it. How are you keeping that from happening?
What rest are you using?
Im not english talker, what is Cowm pownt?
what size is this bow? Inches in height
What arrow rest is that ?
How much for a custom black leather arm guard?
Sick. 🙌
Been shooting a longbow for 24+ years.
Did you end up shooting a deer with the sage?
We need more content
Just curious, did you end up taking a whitetail with a trad bow? I’m thinking of doing the same thing this year, switching from compound to recurve. Thanks!
He tried, but couldn't get it done last year....maybe he will this year!
You didn't mention anything about your rest and plunger.
Archers!!
Good News!!!
45 Lbs draw weight at 28 inches is light enough for accuracy and heavy enough to put an arrow through game animals
Including Hogs Deer Bear what have you!
The key is practice. Don’t be above correction and use scary sharp Broad heads as if you don’t know that!!!😂🤣😎🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🙏🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌
Super,super,super...
Thank you. T)
Leather looks great but no leather on my hunting gear holds scent just my opinion
Hunt with the wind in your face. Then scent doesnt matter.
25 yard limit with a compound is fine- as long as you don't plan on shooting much. I've never got that close to a large buck. Dumb does and young bucks ? Sure
Hoyt satori the only bow for me
Ain’t nothing wrong with shooting a fixed crawl
Did you day “Josh Fletcher”? 💪
"My Dad's motto was, if I wasn't strong enough to pull it back I needed to bale more hay, and if I couldn't pull it back far enough, I needed to grow longer arms."
If I wasn't in the UK, I'd suspect we had the same father ...
I have a old browning in the B basement i want to get flossed
Best advice for trad bow newbies: DON'T overbow! And instead of a Recurve, get a longbow, at least 66'
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I feel like you're still overcomplicating your equipment.
There's definitely more basic ways to get started, but Josh wants to make sure his form is correct first.
Seems to me that's the whole point of archery is getting close
Those breakdowns shot like crap compared to a single piece
Why does people have shorten words and think it's cool ?? Traditional no need to make it sound no other way just my two since
"Linguists have thought for many years the length of words is related to the frequency of use, with short words used more often than long ones. Now researchers in the US have shown the length is more closely related to the amount of information the words carry than their frequency of use.
A link between the length of words and how frequently they are used was first proposed in 1935 by George Kingsley Zipf, a Harvard University linguist and philologist. Zipf's idea was that people would tend to shorten words they used often, to save time in writing and speaking. The relationship seems intuitive and it seems to apply to many languages with short words such as “the”, “a”, “to”, “and”, “so” (and equivalents in other languages) being frequently used.
Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), led by Steven Piantadosi, tested the Zipf relationship by analysing word use in 11 European languages. They analyzed digitized texts for correlations between words by counting how often all pairs of words occurred in sequence. This information was then used to estimate the probability of words occurring after given previous words or sequences of words. They made the assumption that the more predictable a word is, the less information it conveys, and estimated the information content from information theory, which says the information content is proportional to the negative logarithm of the probability of a word occurring.
Piantadosi said if the word length is directly related to information content this would make the transmission of information through language more efficient and also make speech and written texts easier to understand. This is because shorter words, carrying less information, would be scattered through the speech, essentially “smoothing out” the information density and delivering the important information at a steady rate.
The studies suggest that the short words are in fact the least informative and most predictable words rather than the most often used, and that word length is more closely related to the information the words contain.
The paper is soon to be published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS). Steven Piantadosi belongs to the PhD program with MIT’s Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences." by Lin Edwards , Phys.org
Funny. You’re worried about abbreviating words when you can’t use proper grammar. You should have asked, why “do”, not “does”. Also it should be my two “cents” not “since”. Try educating yourself before you publicly criticize others.
Sounds like he is trying to be a trendy high schooler.
“Hey dude, you shooting Trad or Pound” ?
“Ugghh I shoot Trad man, used to shoot pound but I like the challenge of the trad”
We can't do anything right...
Stop using all your fingers in your hook, learn some back tension, and for the love of god don’t try to shoot a animal! Stick to compounds leave the struggle sticks to the guys that are dedicated
What arrow rest is that ?