Because of your videos I bought Highlander Hybrid 2022 for my wife and I am so happy I did it. I get get about 35 miles per gallon for a 3 row SUV. I am buying Corolla hybrid this month for myself for daily commute to work.
I listened to a guy called the Electric Viking, and I just realized that almost everything he says is not 100% truthful. Thanks a lot for this video, it feels to me like it is only now that I see the light. Thanks a lot for your great and informative videos, keep up the incredible work.
Hybrid all the way no headache to look for charging stations yes i don't need 2 to 3 to 4 seconds acceleration like electric cars like some of the young people people down there i already owned a 2022 venza hybrid is good enough for 7.1 seconds acceleration thanks for sharing your video
Amazing video! To the point. Thank you! I’d personally prefer a hybrid. Charging options in Canada are limited and there is lot infrastructure needed to put up charging stations. That’ll easily take 10 years so until that is in place, I won’t switch. Even when I switch, it’ll be a plug-in because pure EVs has range issues and I don’t like stranded in the middle of the road just because it was too cold and the battery depleted faster than expected. 🤦♂️
My friend sold his Tesla after 6 months because his auto and homeowner's insurance went up so much. (He kept his car in the garage) i guess they are afraid of the car burning down the house.
True, they are the most reliable and have the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), while the PHEV are unreliable and have a high TCO (almost as high as the record huge TCO of the BEV)- according to Consumer Reports annual reliability survey and the 10-years TCO study (which doesn't incorporate the cost of replacing the battery, that is very misleading).
For me, a hybrid is the way to go. I live in a high-rise condo with underground garage. To electrify the space would cost around $20K. Lots of different rules since it is not a single family home. I'm in the process of buying a new car and hybrids are hard to find around Denver w/o a significant mark-up or no supply. Not for sure the US is prepared, yet, for a huge number of EVs due to inadequate electrical grid.
I have 11000 kms on my 23 Rav4 Ltd Hybrid after 6 months 90% above 65 mph/ 110 kmh. So far 45 mpg US gallon or 5.3l per 100kms. This car only cost me 1800 cdn more than it's equivalent non hybrid paid MSRP. With my mileage and living in high gas price Canada that 1800 will pay for itself in 2 years. Plus the hybrid has more hp, smoother and quieter. You would have to be crazy to choose a gasser over a hybrid.
I have a HEV SUV, 400+ mile range on a full 13 gallon tank-up. I don't have to plug it in anywhere, and it's cut my gas use nearly in half. It's a self contained system. I've been over 60 MPH (97 KPH) on battery power alone. The learning curve is short to get the computer to kick in the battery-only power. When you punch-it, both engine & motor kick in together to give fast acceleration. I use to fill up my older gas SUV once a week, with this one, I could skip a week.
@@kelvins9823Just a stupid acronym (because it is inferring the inclusion in the electric vehicles category, while the car is a hybrid, belonging far more to the ICE world) for a Hybrid Electric Vehicle. The correct categorization is as SCH (self-charging hybrid) as its purpose is to save the fuel, being the best of both worlds (gas and electric) thru its best reliability and lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership).
My wife is a nurse at our local hospital. If you drive an EV then you can charge your vehicle for free. We seriously thought about buying a Solterra for her commuter car but I’m glad that we chose an Outback instead. Her Outback is not only her commuter vehicle but also our road car for long trips. Just to drive to her family’s ranch in Montana, USA would take us 3 days with a Solterra, whereas we can drive there in 12 hours with either her Outback or my Forester. The Outback is supposed to be redesigned in 25 and be offered with Toyota’s Hybrid system. The redesigned Outback is supposed to gain more horsepower, torque and mpg with the naturally aspirated engine. So we’re thinking in 26-27 year models, we’ll sell her 29 Outback and buy a new Outback Touring Hybrid for her. Also in late 25 or early 26 the completely redesigned Forester will be available with the Toyota RAVs hybrid system. My Forester Touring has only 14K miles so I’ll be driving it for years before I can justify buying a new Forester Touring Hybrid. Subaru is well known for coming to the table last in new technologies. I suspect this is why they have to borrow the hybrid technology from Toyota. If Toyota would offer Subaru’s symmetrical AWD system in their vehicles, we’d go back to Toyota as their reliability is second to none. It would also be nice if Subaru would use Toyota’s eCVT for more longevity and reliability, but again, Subaru Hates changes.
A few things to keep in mind for the "environmentally friendly" EV's..... 1. Mining Lithium for the batteries is an environmental mess 2. Manufacturing the batteries isn't much better 3. Disposing of the batteries is also problematic 4. Generating electricity (to charge them) is also dirty. Bottom line..there is no "clean" way to have a vehicle, there is only some cleaner ways to run them.
What you wrote is wrong. Also, you and your OPEC talking points don't address how heinous oil and gas are and how much worse for EVERYONE oil and gas is.
@@silvershadow013Horses pollute too. But BEVs take a quarter of the energy of gas cars, and much of the electricity is renewable. Batteries are recyclable.
Wow, very balanced video as usual. Well presented as usual. We just bought a 2020 chevy bolt here in ND. Keeping our 2002 Buick Park Avenue for road trips as the bolt is not a road tripping car. I was comparing our electricity cost to the one on your example. Our elec cost is about 3-4 times cheaper per KWH. Glad we are finally able to take advantage of these savings. Be well.
Definitely a Hybrid for me, I occasionally need to cover long distances so an EV is out, due to the time it would take for a couple of charge ups The heavy depreciation of an EV is also a huge deterrent. An ICE car makes more sense to me than an EV, as we do not have a home charger, our house is old and would need a new supply to fit one, and the nearest public charger is ten miles away and not always working. My Kia Hybrid gives me an MPG from 64 to 67 mpg around town down to 52mpg at motorway speeds, I am very happy with that
It's complicated. An EV makes sense for many people. In a couple years when the selection is better, prices are lower, and more chargers abound, they will be a better deal.
In my opinion, right now, hybrids make the most sense for most people. They are extremely reliable (especially Toyota ones as they've been doing it for 25 years now) and don't cost much more than their gas only counterparts. The future is EVs, but I think we're still at least 10 years away from that being a realistic viable replacement for a gas car. Batteries need to improve (in terms of composition, size, weight and cost) to them to be the new "gas car" option. There's also been a couple of examples where people who drove their Ioniq5 vehicles ended up running over road debris (exhaust pipe) which caused the under car battery guard to be lightly damaged (which is what it is meant for) or lightly scuffed. In both examples, the cars were written off. Doesn't seem very environmentally friendly to write of a practically new car for what would be minor damage on a regular car. That also will end up making these cars more expensive to insure, as the battery replacement costs right now are extremely high (it was $61,000 in the case of the Ioniq5). As well, if there is any damage to the battery guard (even if it hasn't damaged the battery pack), it is considered a safety issue, so the car can not be released back to the customer and the car is now flagged as being out of warranty. So essentially, it's 5000 pounds of garbage. Toyota will be debuting some solid state batteries in a few years that should significant promise, so if something like that ends up working out well, it is likely a better time to wait if you want an EV.
I just bought a new Toyota. The hybrid version is very hard to find with a long wait list (over 6 months if lucky) and was several thousand over the same equipped gas version. They are also selling over MSRP. I just bought the gas version. BTW, the Yaris that I traded in was getting an average 35 to 55 mpg. The average for the 5 years that I had the car was 41.6 mg. Not bad for a conventional gas engine.
@@silvershadow013 Hybrids will typically use almost half the fuel of a gas only car (for mostly urban use, if that is what you do). I bought a new car a couple of years ago and got a Venza (which is a hybrid). I was lucky they had it on the lot so I didn't have to wait for it (current wait time is about 18 months), which doesn't make sense now since they are discontinuing the Venza. If they had a RAV-4 Hybrid, I would likely have got that instead (it is also less expensive). Hybrid Toyota's are hard to get and have been for a few years now. It's because they are the most reliable vehicles on the planet, get really good fuel economy, and have solid resale value. The hybrid versions for Toyota cost about $2500 more than their gas only counterparts, but you'll likely make that back in 2 years in fuel savings. In a perfect world, there would be plenty of inventory on the lot so more people could easily get them. The wait times (almost every brand now) make it difficult for people to get what they want (many just take what they can get).
Shari, there are 2 Canadians who bought the Hyundai Ioniq EVs and their EV batteries may have been compromised by road debris and Hyundai refuses to install new batteries even with their 10 year 100K miles warranty. Those owners had to junk their cars as it would cost more to replace the EV batteries than the original price for the car.
Small sample anecdotes don't convince me. Way Way more ICE cars have similare stories every week, but its not news worthy, so we don't hear about it. The media is always pushing this silly stupid stories like its a significant number of events.
@@TJDST4 Well, if they are citizens of Canada, then it’s a good guess that they are Canadians. I haven’t heard of anyone from other countries having this issue but I’m sure they exist. So, Oh Racist one, again, if they’re a citizen of Canada and they bought their vehicle in Canada and they live in Canada, anyone with a 1/2 a brain would come to the same conclusion that they’re Canadians. If it looks, sounds, walks like a duck, it’s a good chance that they’re a duck. I can’t imagine that your country allows you to vote !
Wrong, one battery died on his 6 year old Hyundai with 200 000 kms on it. He complained to the media and got a free battery even though it was passed the 180k warranty. He laughed all the way to the bank. The other one had nothing to do with road debris either, it was simply defective.
@@mikej238 No, I watched it on another TH-cam channel. Both vehicles were less than a year old. Please don’t put words in my mouth. I know what I watched. And it really doesn’t matter if it was in Canada or any other country. The TH-cam channel that was talking about it are based out of Vancouver BC, so that’s how they know what is happening in Canada. But since you’re Narcissistic, then you always have to be right and the rest of the world is wrong. So please go argue with a stop sign
An all electric makes sense as a very small city car, or for rich people with several vehicles. A hybrid or gasoline only car is better for long trips.
Yep - only if you accept paying too much (not even thinking of the huge cost for battery replacement), bearing the much higher insurance cost (high fire risk), higher parts' cost like tyres, the responsibility for a higher pollution (through mining with children!), the impracticality on long roads or when towing, the short life, the unreliability (meaning time and opportunities losses) etc. and - the most important - the control the globalist/Marxist "elites" get over your ass.
I live 60 kms North of Toronto (Bradford area), where there are almost no EV chargers to be found. If I were to buy an electric car, the only way for me to get around would be to fully charge up at home and carefully plan my shopping trip to make sure I did not use up too much power so that I could get back home again to charge up. That is not my vision of a 'care-free' shopping trip. Meanwhile, if I get a hybrid, I cut my fuel consumption 50% and I can fill up anywhere.
Hi Shari! Happy Sunday!! Yes, I priced an EV and the Hyundai Kona EV is the lowest price and within my budget. However, to get the same level of "bells and whistles" as my Kona Limited ICE, I would have to buy the top trim level, at $46,000, which is 10 Grand MORE than the top trim ICE version, and the EV does not offer AWD. In addition to the extra ten grand, I would also have to pay an electrician about $1000 to upgrade my home electrical panel and install a level 2 EV charger (regardless of which EV brand I would buy). Therefore, I'm all in on getting a Hybrid!!! As I'm planning on a 36 month lease again, I will revisit the costs for a full EV in 2027, when I would have to decide if I keep my 2024 Hybrid, or turn it in and then get an EV. The battery technology could be radically different by then. But meanwhile, here in the U.S. our "shove EV's down our throats" government is pushing EV sales BUT then took away much of the incentives for that $7500 Federal Tax Credit but toughening the restrictions, so many EV products are no longer eligible (including some Teslas).
Even these discounts can't save the average consumer money on 60k and maintenance cost are way more cost expensive on EV'S than what manufacturers or media states. Do your research tires and insurance on EV's are a huge expense and EV's are 85% more likely to have break down and other issues the ICE vehicles
I have never really looked into the Hybrid or Electric cars as I feel like I am kind of stuck in regular cars/suvs. But if I had to pick one, I think I would pick the Hybrid. The electric kind of sounds like a pain as far as getting the electric charger put in at home. So thank you for the info. I currently have a Kicks and have only had it for just over a year. So I am not really ready for a new car yet. But I do enjoy watching car videos. ;) If I had to pick a new car, my top 3 brands I have been thinking about, in no particular order, are Subaru, Honda & Toyota. My work is about a 25 minute drive from home. And I work on a "hybrid" schedule. haha. And do like to take an occasional road trip now and then. What would you recommend?
A Mazda (choose your preferred segment - I have a Miata ND2 RF). If you want a hybrid (best of both worlds), Mazda is getting hybridized as we speak by its minority shareholder, Toyota. All the best!
No brainer. Hybrid. ✅ As Consumers Reports recently submitted “ EV’s have 79% More problems than ICE vehicles”. And in Canada EV’s cost $20,000-$25,000 more on average. EV insurance is insanely expensive.😮 5 years from now maybe hybrid vs EV might change. Not today however. No thanks Elon. 😊
I have both. You run out of electricity with a full EV, you call a tow truck. You run out of electricity. You keep going. Also, there are plenty of gas stations!
Comparing the costs, hybrids make sense to me compared to plugin hybrids. However I have solar on the roof. Do you think I would be missing a lot of free charging if I don't buy electric because my utility company doesn't pay any money for the electricity sent back to the grid.
7:30 into the piece. The cost saving is dependant on the 'length of journeys' overall (suggesting flexibility in any year's motoring) and the price of electricty available at 'any' charging location available. Actual driving context is everything towards what will work best for any individual. From a pure economic perspective the cost total ownership of a full electric would not better the costings for a true hybrid for 'my' context. And there are nothing like enough true hybrids out there. The 'mild' hybrids are getting better, but I'll not be investing in the latest version of my current car unless the 'mild hybrid' it has become equals or better those full hybrids from either Toyota or Honda. Though good, neither produces quite the right vehicle just yet.
BEVs impractical and spontaneous erupt In flames. 24 Corolla Cross SE AWD hybrid hyper miling 80mpg+. My maintenance cost will be minimal as 70% ev. Too bad engine runs to get and maintain temp for emissions purposes ULEV and PZEV. Watch video on easily 2x lifetime of battery, expected 20+ years.
We would have purchased a full EV if the pricing wasn't so high. Our second Prius (a 12 year old model C), needed replacing, but, $60,000 for the least expensive EV here did not appeal. So, we opted for a new Prius Prime at under 2/3's the cost. Having proven the technology over 16 years of ownership with the first two cars, we know the new Prime will be a good investment. Gas in St. John's currently sits at $ 1.80 L (and, that's down significantly from a year ago). Besides cost we are also intent on reducing our emissions as much as possible. With the $5,000 rebate we received from the two levels of government, the cost for a Prime became more inline with the regular Prius so buying one made great sense. I'm delighted to say that we have been more than impressed with the Prime. After three and a half months we have driven 4,889 Km, on less than one and a half tanks of gas ! Needless to say, we plug in every evening. Our cost to charge the Traction Battery (from drained), is estimated to be around $ 1.80. I base that number on the fact that even though only about 80% of the battery's 13.6Kwh capacity is "available" to propel the car, there are inefficiencies in the system that consume incoming current. So, I used 13.6Kwh x our hydro rate. This morning when I drove my wife to work, the trip computer indicated an EV range of 91 Km. Yesterday, I drove a total of 88 Km on battery and there was 6% charge left. The car would have easily exceeded 90Km in EV Mode. For us, this car is a BEV
Those yearly costs are one thing, but the price of purchase for EVs are insane expensive and their resale value is rock bottom. Consider that and you'll run a way from EVs...and insurance?! A small bump in your undercarriage and your EV is written off
Has anyone checked the exorbitant cost of insurance for these electric cars? You can spend more for insurance in eight years then you would replace a $20,000 battery.
We just bought a 2020 chevy bolt for $14k plus a $4k tax credit. Just put liability on it and the liability insurance costs the same as my 2004 chevy venture minivan I traded in here in North Dakota. Around $400/year
we have hybrid toyota, gas Mercedez GL and Tesla model 3 our insurances for 3 cars 3 drivers are almost all same price, I taught insurances are also based on how safe driver you are, not just based on what car you drive.
I buy a car to use till it dies not to sell, and based on my experience mostly all car dealership will find ways to get your car for cheap if you trade it or even sell it
I dont believe the "All Ellectric" car is ready for prime time...yet. At least not for mainstream buyers. And a lot of wealthy buyers dont trust the charging infrastructure yet. If you own one home, and have $1000 to burn for an in-home charger, it can work splendidly, till you go on a cross-country trip. Then the "Charger Paranoia" creeps in. I am only considering a standard hybrid because we regulary drive between the US West Coast, Florida and Ontario, Canada. I dont need the worry of making a pre-designated charging stop in Bluefield, Ky, only to find some chargers are incapacitated and having to wait for others who are charging endlessly! No thanks.
With a Prius Prime PHEV, you only need a regular (GFI), 115 Volt outlet. If you have underground parking there have to be power outlets already installed. Easy, cheap job for an electrician to arrange to tap into one.
The biggest problem with hybrids now is that demand is greater than supply meaning dealers will ask more than sticker. And most retail orders are sold out. So buyer is at mercy of dealer ordered hybrids in stock that move quickly.
Most manufacturers yes but bought a Honda CRv Hybrid last week and bought off the lot at MSRP with no unnecessary options or any hidden fees or doc fees!
Another thing to note is that we live in a capitalist society, and the companies making charging stations know they have a captive market. In alot of places, it might cost 30$ for a full charge. That basically wipes out any savings over gasoline. In fact, a Prius costs less per mile than an EV depending how long a charge gets you and the rate per KWH. Its really not that economical at the moment to drive an EV, especially when Toyota makes hybrids getting 45-50mpg....
Our 2024 Prime returns excellent EV Mode milage. Drove it 88Km yesterday and the battery had 6% left. Cost to recharge at home ? Less than $ 1.80. Estimated EV range this morning was 91Km. And oh, gas here costs $6.75 per gallon. We have gone 5,000Km and used less than 1.5 tanks of fuel.
I have only gas cars (Miata ND2 RF, Suzuki Jimny LCV). But my wife drives a Lexus UX 250h F Sport and while I like the old school cars, her UX is amazing after almost 6 years without issues (not even a recall, confirming the best reliability rating in its segment), with a very low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), very comfortable and economical etc. The HEV (better labeled as SCH=Self-Charging Hybrids) are the best of both worlds. BEV's are unreliable (according to the annual reliability surveys from Consumer Reports), very expensive, with a huge TCO, very polluting, extremely dangerous, impractical etc. Their brothers, PHEV, are almost as bad, especially that they have almost two powertrains. But mostly I shall not buy such an electric clunker because it is imposed by the globalist "elites" in order to control us. So a Toyota/Lexus (or a Mazda, Subaru, Honda or Suzuki) hybrid would be the obvious choice for any smart people, instead of a BEV clunker. Or try to keep your Japanese gas cars as much as possible. Don't buy expensive, unreliable and high TCO non-Japanese clunkers.
Auto manufacturers raised prices after and just prior to when tax credits were approved by the U.S. congress by close to the amount of the credit. In some cases even more. So, when you buy an EV you are taking the tax dollars from other people to give it to the auto makers. How is your government tax credit working out for you now?
I chose a Corolla 2023 last year since Toyotas EV sucks. Ugly and way too huge. Other EVs I had in mind would be at least 10k€ more as a base model whereas I got a good middle ground with my Corolla. And hearing what new batteries for BEVs costs I did not really wanted to spend that much. I am absolutely satisfied with my current car and now have enough time to wait what will happen with EVs in the future.
My completely full 100amp fuse panel probably couldn't handle a full EV. I would need to upgrade to a 200amp breaker panel, but that would also enable me to switch to an electric heat pump and replace my 50 year old gas-guzzling furnace. My issue with EVs is they always have way way more new & highly complicated features that are more likely to break. I was a SIMPLE and stripped down EV.
Agreed. I'd love to buy a barebones lowish (~200km) range EV with next to no bells or whistles to be my commuter vehicle. But nobody is building such an EV for NA markets. I'd love to get a Nissan Sakura or Mitsubishi eK X. But they aren't options here presently.
@@alanbland1976 agreed. I'm keeping an eye on the MINI Paceman coming soon. MINI got rated 3rd for reliability from CR and they're typically a striped down BMW, so less bells & whistles. But the price will probably be off-putting.
All the car companies are designing cheap EVs. Battery costs are coming down and huge battery plants are being built. They'd better hurry up, the Chinese are looking to move in.
Do you own an EV? Did you know the maintenance cost of my EV (Hyundai Ioniq 5) far exceeds the oil changes required in an ICE vehicle? I'm selling my EV and getting a hybrid. Charging infrastructure is not reliable. Charging speeds are not reliable. Winter charging is too slow. Winter range is reduced. Replacement parts are not readily available. A hybrid will be my next vehicle.
I think Lithium batteries for vehicles is a bad idea because of the performance and fire issues. I do not want to get burnt alive. Hybrid is better but prefer gas engines
There are other battery types also used which are more safe than traditional lithium ion Batterie they are called: lithium iron phosphate they can’t burn or explode but they have a much lower energy density than normal lithium ion batteries
Look at the NHTSA figures on car fires. Gas vehicles are much ,more prone to fires than EVs. Hybrids are the worst. A gas car fire isn't news. "Man bites dog is news."
I'm not sure I would have started off by describing hybrids as having a "large battery" when a typical hybrid battery is nearly 30 TIMES smaller than an EV battery. Otherwise good video.
PHEV batteries are larger than standard hybrids. The other thing is that they work hard, especially if you run them in EV mode all the time and recharge every night. A pure EV gets charged every 200 miles or more, so less cycles.
@@jamesvandamme7786 With our 24 Prime, even when you select Hybrid Mode, the car will not run the engine until the Traction Battery has died, unless, you switch-on some resistive loads. Heat, heated seats etc.. Toyota knows this so, as they are offering a ten year warranty on the Traction Battery they must have confidence charging everyday will not be an issue.
Definitely a Toyota Hybrid. Considering CO2 footprint, reliability, convenience, price, etc., no doubt that a Toyota Hybrid is the best option. I have a 2011 Toyota Prius with almost 200k miles, MPG is consistently above 52 and without any major fix, only regular oil and filter change. I recently bought a Toyota Venza and I am absolutely happy with such amazing car.
What carbon foot print? Is You really that dull? Canada produces 3$ of world's green gases!!!!!!! And does the battery magically appear? How much green gases are produced making the damn thing, how much pollution is it going to produce when the battery is dead????? Like have you contact thinking 10 years ahead ever?
Old battery technology, triple insurance costs, terrible performance in cold weather, more expensive to fast charge than gas and worthless resale values, kill all the EV argument. Price to repair in any accident especially any damage to battery pack is a complete loss especially when trying to resell an EV that is flagged on Carfax. Hybrid is an easy winner in all categories. No waiting in lines, great resale, value, 10 year warranties to life on some Kia vehicles bought at certain dealerships. Finally, safety has not been discussed when you have a daughter or female sitting in their car at a charging station as a sitting duck for criminals! Millions of Americans are ditching their EVS at an alarming rate as used car lots are filling up with someone else's problems and headaches.
Hybrids are the best of both worlds, as they are the most reliable car segment and have the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) according to Consumer Reports. Add the high safety, super quietness, extra-power, excellent resale value etc.
A hybrid car is two cars, a bad electric car and a bad gasoline car, inside the body of one car. A hybrid car is big on the outside and small on the inside. A hybrid car has a more complex construction compared to any other car. All cars need to be maintained and repaired.
Tell me that you know nothing about hybrids without saying it directly. Let's start with the statistics: while the self-charging hybrids are the most reliable cars (and have the lowest TCO=Total Cost of Ownership), the BEV and the PHEV are among the most unreliable car segments (and get huge TCO, because if the necessary battery replacement), according to Consumer Reports annual reliability surveys. The self-charging hybrids are the best of both worlds because their purpose is very different from that of the BEV and PHEV. HEV (placed in the EV category for ideological scope) purpose is to save fuel - through recovering and stocking most of the kinetic energy (otherwise lost when braking). Moreover, a secondary but very important consequence of the regenerative braking is that it helps a lot the braking system, causing a far longer life for its elements, because there is less friction (less transformation into heat). And the hybrid system does indeed add the inverter and the small (relative to the huge ones from BEV) accumulator and some ECU and wiring to the existing ICE car, but it saves with the alternator, starter and some other classic elements that will break sometime. BEV fans claim that the BEV is far simpler than an ICE because it has far less moving parts. It is a lie by omission: the electric wiring and the electronics complexity add plenty of issues (as they do on the ICE cars), making the BEV and PHEV highly unreliable. Some stupid fans are also claiming that the efficiency is huge - no, it's not, because the BEV and PHEV carry around the heavy weight of the battery! And the bigger the battery, the more likely it is a thermal runout that is very intense and enormously polluting (beside the production pollution). Sadly, there are still some people buying BEV and PHEV even without subsidies (that are a theft from all tax-payers) despite such vehicles being proven as dangerous, unreliable, high TCO, expensive, polluting, impractical, low resale value clunkers. Some are attracted by the very fast accelerations of such computers/batteries on wheels, but afterwards you see them driving cautiously behind trucks to save the range etc.
Have both hybrids and Tesla EV. Tesla MY is really fun to drive. Toyota hybrids although may be reliable, are slow and sluggish to drive (unless it’s a BMW PHEV which perform very well).
The snowflakes are very stupid, they believe the "eco"-Marxist propaganda. Except for the amazing accelerations, there are no reasons to buy a BEV/PHEV. (SC)Hybrids are the right way for the time being.
Price of course is the most important. Common sense hybrids car have two system so maintenance cost is logically higher while EV had much lesser maintenance cost on long term.
Your "logic" is contradicted by the harsh reality (statistics): the hybrids are far better in cost, reliability, TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) etc. Unfortunately, you are a victim of the "eco"-Marxist propaganda, promoting the BEV scam.
Really? That's why the hybrids' segment is the most reliable and has the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) while the BEV and PHEV are very unreliable and have a huge TCO according to Consumer Reports?
@@mikej238 One quarter longer answer, PHEV. That 25% difference is more than made-up for from the economy to be won with a plug-in. I'm finding it hard to believe how good our 2024 Prime is regards operating cost. We've gone 5,000Km on less than 1.5 tanks. Full charge for under $1.80 takes us at least (in summer), 80Km's Don't bother trying to debate cheuky. He's fixated on next November and de'm V8"s
@@TomLawlor-iq6gm still next to impossible to get a Prime where I live , wait time is very long and you would be lucky to get one for less than 10g above msrp
Neither. Keeping my high horsepower hot rod until it drops. Truthfully, I would say hybrid. We as a nation aren't ready to go all EV. The infostructure isn't in place to support it.
if you can charge at home . buy full electric . have solar pannels . if you do not charge at home do not buy full electric . or plug in Hybrids . full hybrid is the best option . just gas and good to go .
I honestly think that this needs to stop. You are directly misleading consumers. Gas car $2500 a year? Based on what? 10l/100km(which is below average fuel consumption) $2500 buys you 1800L of fuel, that makes 18000km a year. Which is below average as well. They you say hybrid car will burn $1800 of fuel. $700 a year savings.......so, you drive the car for 5 years, save 3500$ on fuel. But pay 9000$ more to buy the hybrid. Please explain me where are the savings ?
I paid €2'600 more to get the hybrid instead of the ICE equivalent (not really equivalent, because the hybrid has more power, higher mpg and some additional features). Your comment is a huge lie. I did offset this price difference in less than 3 years (I have more cars, thus not so many miles on this one, that my wife usually drives). The price of a new acumulator/battery (labour included) for my Lexus hybrid is around €3'000, that can be covered by my family driving in a little bit over 3 years, while the battery lasts far more than 10 years (I have 10-years/175'000km warranty for it by having it checked annually by the dealership - for free!). So I am on a big plus from all points of view (including the quieter rides, the better handling, the extra-comfort features, the reliability, low TCO etc.) except the smaller trunk (but I don't need it to be too big, it can still transport a 65' OLED TV - I did that). Still, my Miata ND2 RF G-184 Top Revolution with the Red Soul Crystal paint and Recaro seats etc. gives me far more fun (in the mountainous area I live in or on the Greek islands' curves). The same for my Suzuki Jimny LCV in the off-road or on my mountains' roads/curves... So I like more my ICE cars, but the hybrid is the best of both worlds. It does have an extra battery, invertor etc., but it doesn't have anymore a starter, alternator, belt etc. BEV fans claim that the electric clunkers are superior because they have far less mechanical complexity. True, but they have far more electrical complexity (and that's why they are so unreliable and have a big TCO - according to Consumer Reports annual reliability survey, that also discovered that hybrids are the most reliable and have the lowest TCO). So I prefer the hybrids to the dangerous, unreliable, high TCO, expensive, polluting, impractical BEV clunkers.
I bought a used EV for 21k CAD total. I drove 10k kms last year. I rarely charge at my garage because it cost me 5 cents per kwh. Most of my charging is at work (level 2 charger for free). I only DCFC 4x for entire year and cost me $28 total. Long trips are not a problem with my 450km range EV. 0 maintenance done. Never going back to gas or hybrid.
The commies always enjoy gratuities (they think some things they get are for free, but those costs (like charging, EV subsidies) are covered by other people's work.
You lost me at saving $200 a year on gas when the initial cost of the hybrid system is $2,000 up and likely over $4,000. Do the math and remember you need a new battery in 10 years.
If the battery in a Toyota hybrid fails after 10 years you just keep driving with a very economical 4cyl engine. We have a 2024 Prime. It now has 5,000Km on the OD. To date, we have used less than 1.5 tanks of fuel. This car will save us a lot of money.
Not quite, a battery for a PHEV is far bigger (thus far heavier and far more prone to thermal runway) than a SCH battery, thus far more expensive. A hybrid battery is usually below 2k (the cost of mine was offset in about 3 years despite being driven below average), a plug-in battery can easily be above 10k.
If you really are environmentally minded you would drive an EV like a person trying to get the most fuel mileage out of a hybrid. Otherwise you are lying to yourself. Big battery EVs should be illegal or charged a high premium because they drive up the costs for more practical PHEV'S.
@@TomLawlor-iq6gmI ended up buying a 2024 VW iD.4 AWD PRO S because my 2005 Prius gave up the ghost and with incentives/tax credits I got $22,651 off $56k MSRP. We have a 2005 Pilot I will only replace with a PHEV if there will ever be a same or better deal on something like the RAV4 Prime or equivalent. I live in an area where charging outside of home is not such a great alternative for reaching the areas outside of the city we go frequently.
Because of your videos I bought Highlander Hybrid 2022 for my wife and I am so happy I did it. I get get about 35 miles per gallon for a 3 row SUV. I am buying Corolla hybrid this month for myself for daily commute to work.
Great to hear and excellent choice! Thanks for sharing
Prius tooo expensive?
I listened to a guy called the Electric Viking, and I just realized that almost everything he says is not 100% truthful. Thanks a lot for this video, it feels to me like it is only now that I see the light. Thanks a lot for your great and informative videos, keep up the incredible work.
Thank you!
Hybrid all the way no headache to look for charging stations yes i don't need 2 to 3 to 4 seconds acceleration like electric cars like some of the young people people down there i already owned a 2022 venza hybrid is good enough for 7.1 seconds acceleration thanks for sharing your video
Also take into account the time required to charge, which takes 20 minutes at least vs. 3 minutes to fill up the gas.
yes is true I driving 2007 Lexus RX Hybrid so far so good no problem
@@tonymjhan1087 have you replaced the hybrid battery?
I drive a HEV Toyota. It's the best option for me.
EV , Hell NO
Hybrid, Absolutely YES !
I would buy hybrid even if the fuel economy was no better.
Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks.
Amazing video! To the point. Thank you!
I’d personally prefer a hybrid. Charging options in Canada are limited and there is lot infrastructure needed to put up charging stations. That’ll easily take 10 years so until that is in place, I won’t switch. Even when I switch, it’ll be a plug-in because pure EVs has range issues and I don’t like stranded in the middle of the road just because it was too cold and the battery depleted faster than expected. 🤦♂️
Good video. One thing you left out was the cost of insurance comparison.
I would have included this but insurance rates vary so much depending on location and other variables. It's a tough area to generalize.
My friend sold his Tesla after 6 months because his auto and homeowner's insurance went up so much. (He kept his car in the garage) i guess they are afraid of the car burning down the house.
Watched 2 of your videos about hybrids, and I can say you explained way better. Based on where I stay, I say HEV is way better than HPEV.
True, they are the most reliable and have the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), while the PHEV are unreliable and have a high TCO (almost as high as the record huge TCO of the BEV)- according to Consumer Reports annual reliability survey and the 10-years TCO study (which doesn't incorporate the cost of replacing the battery, that is very misleading).
Toyota-Lexus hybrid . ❤👍😀
I got a Mercedes e 400 hybrid love it had it for 4 years now never had a major issue
For me, a hybrid is the way to go. I live in a high-rise condo with underground garage. To electrify the space would cost around $20K. Lots of different rules since it is not a single family home. I'm in the process of buying a new car and hybrids are hard to find around Denver w/o a significant mark-up or no supply. Not for sure the US is prepared, yet, for a huge number of EVs due to inadequate electrical grid.
I have 11000 kms on my 23 Rav4 Ltd Hybrid after 6 months 90% above 65 mph/ 110 kmh.
So far 45 mpg US gallon or 5.3l per 100kms.
This car only cost me 1800 cdn more than it's equivalent non hybrid paid MSRP.
With my mileage and living in high gas price Canada that 1800 will pay for itself in 2 years.
Plus the hybrid has more hp, smoother and quieter.
You would have to be crazy to choose a gasser over a hybrid.
I have a HEV SUV, 400+ mile range on a full 13 gallon tank-up. I don't have to plug it in anywhere, and it's cut my gas use nearly in half. It's a self contained system. I've been over 60 MPH (97 KPH) on battery power alone. The learning curve is short to get the computer to kick in the battery-only power. When you punch-it, both engine & motor kick in together to give fast acceleration. I use to fill up my older gas SUV once a week, with this one, I could skip a week.
I’m curious 👀 what is this HEV sir ? Just curious 🧐?
@@kelvins9823Just a stupid acronym (because it is inferring the inclusion in the electric vehicles category, while the car is a hybrid, belonging far more to the ICE world) for a Hybrid Electric Vehicle.
The correct categorization is as SCH (self-charging hybrid) as its purpose is to save the fuel, being the best of both worlds (gas and electric) thru its best reliability and lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership).
My wife is a nurse at our local hospital.
If you drive an EV then you can charge your vehicle for free.
We seriously thought about buying a Solterra for her commuter car but I’m glad that we chose an Outback instead.
Her Outback is not only her commuter vehicle but also our road car for long trips.
Just to drive to her family’s ranch in Montana, USA would take us 3 days with a Solterra, whereas we can drive there in 12 hours with either her Outback or my Forester.
The Outback is supposed to be redesigned in 25 and be offered with Toyota’s Hybrid system. The redesigned Outback is supposed to gain more horsepower, torque and mpg with the naturally aspirated engine.
So we’re thinking in 26-27 year models, we’ll sell her 29 Outback and buy a new Outback Touring Hybrid for her.
Also in late 25 or early 26 the completely redesigned Forester will be available with the Toyota RAVs hybrid system.
My Forester Touring has only 14K miles so I’ll be driving it for years before I can justify buying a new Forester Touring Hybrid.
Subaru is well known for coming to the table last in new technologies. I suspect this is why they have to borrow the hybrid technology from Toyota.
If Toyota would offer Subaru’s symmetrical AWD system in their vehicles, we’d go back to Toyota as their reliability is second to none.
It would also be nice if Subaru would use Toyota’s eCVT for more longevity and reliability, but again, Subaru Hates changes.
@@carhelpcorner Yes it will be interesting indeed
A few things to keep in mind for the "environmentally friendly" EV's.....
1. Mining Lithium for the batteries is an environmental mess
2. Manufacturing the batteries isn't much better
3. Disposing of the batteries is also problematic
4. Generating electricity (to charge them) is also dirty.
Bottom line..there is no "clean" way to have a vehicle, there is only some cleaner ways to run them.
nobody cares about the environment especially you so why bring it up. It's about saving money
What you wrote is wrong. Also, you and your OPEC talking points don't address how heinous oil and gas are and how much worse for EVERYONE oil and gas is.
@@TJDST4 I never said gas or oil is a panacea. You inferred that. There is no environmentally friendly way to manufacture and drive an automobile.
@@silvershadow013Horses pollute too. But BEVs take a quarter of the energy of gas cars, and much of the electricity is renewable. Batteries are recyclable.
Wow, very balanced video as usual. Well presented as usual. We just bought a 2020 chevy bolt here in ND. Keeping our 2002 Buick Park Avenue for road trips as the bolt is not a road tripping car. I was comparing our electricity cost to the one on your example. Our elec cost is about 3-4 times cheaper per KWH. Glad we are finally able to take advantage of these savings. Be well.
GM government motors. SAIC and GM
Definitely a Hybrid for me, I occasionally need to cover long distances so an EV is out, due to the time it would take for a couple of charge ups
The heavy depreciation of an EV is also a huge deterrent.
An ICE car makes more sense to me than an EV, as we do not have a home charger, our house is old and would need a new supply to fit one, and the nearest public charger is ten miles away and not always working.
My Kia Hybrid gives me an MPG from 64 to 67 mpg around town down to 52mpg at motorway speeds, I am very happy with that
Wow, you just made a great case for never buying an electric car. Thank you.
get a horse then
Hybrid better than EV
@@JC90210 horse is better than hybrid
It's complicated. An EV makes sense for many people. In a couple years when the selection is better, prices are lower, and more chargers abound, they will be a better deal.
@@ChiTsang horse is better than EV
In my opinion, right now, hybrids make the most sense for most people. They are extremely reliable (especially Toyota ones as they've been doing it for 25 years now) and don't cost much more than their gas only counterparts. The future is EVs, but I think we're still at least 10 years away from that being a realistic viable replacement for a gas car. Batteries need to improve (in terms of composition, size, weight and cost) to them to be the new "gas car" option. There's also been a couple of examples where people who drove their Ioniq5 vehicles ended up running over road debris (exhaust pipe) which caused the under car battery guard to be lightly damaged (which is what it is meant for) or lightly scuffed. In both examples, the cars were written off. Doesn't seem very environmentally friendly to write of a practically new car for what would be minor damage on a regular car. That also will end up making these cars more expensive to insure, as the battery replacement costs right now are extremely high (it was $61,000 in the case of the Ioniq5). As well, if there is any damage to the battery guard (even if it hasn't damaged the battery pack), it is considered a safety issue, so the car can not be released back to the customer and the car is now flagged as being out of warranty. So essentially, it's 5000 pounds of garbage. Toyota will be debuting some solid state batteries in a few years that should significant promise, so if something like that ends up working out well, it is likely a better time to wait if you want an EV.
I just bought a new Toyota. The hybrid version is very hard to find with a long wait list (over 6 months if lucky) and was several thousand over the same equipped gas version. They are also selling over MSRP. I just bought the gas version. BTW, the Yaris that I traded in was getting an average 35 to 55 mpg. The average for the 5 years that I had the car was 41.6 mg. Not bad for a conventional gas engine.
@@silvershadow013 Hybrids will typically use almost half the fuel of a gas only car (for mostly urban use, if that is what you do). I bought a new car a couple of years ago and got a Venza (which is a hybrid). I was lucky they had it on the lot so I didn't have to wait for it (current wait time is about 18 months), which doesn't make sense now since they are discontinuing the Venza. If they had a RAV-4 Hybrid, I would likely have got that instead (it is also less expensive). Hybrid Toyota's are hard to get and have been for a few years now. It's because they are the most reliable vehicles on the planet, get really good fuel economy, and have solid resale value. The hybrid versions for Toyota cost about $2500 more than their gas only counterparts, but you'll likely make that back in 2 years in fuel savings. In a perfect world, there would be plenty of inventory on the lot so more people could easily get them. The wait times (almost every brand now) make it difficult for people to get what they want (many just take what they can get).
Shari, there are 2 Canadians who bought the Hyundai Ioniq EVs and their EV batteries may have been compromised by road debris and Hyundai refuses to install new batteries even with their 10 year 100K miles warranty. Those owners had to junk their cars as it would cost more to replace the EV batteries than the original price for the car.
Ah yes, here it is the "two Canadians" comment.
It's almost as if TH-cam requires bots to post the same dead horse comment on every video about EVs.
Small sample anecdotes don't convince me. Way Way more ICE cars have similare stories every week, but its not news worthy, so we don't hear about it. The media is always pushing this silly stupid stories like its a significant number of events.
@@TJDST4 Well, if they are citizens of Canada, then it’s a good guess that they are Canadians.
I haven’t heard of anyone from other countries having this issue but I’m sure they exist.
So, Oh Racist one, again, if they’re a citizen of Canada and they bought their vehicle in Canada and they live in Canada, anyone with a 1/2 a brain would come to the same conclusion that they’re Canadians.
If it looks, sounds, walks like a duck, it’s a good chance that they’re a duck.
I can’t imagine that your country allows you to vote !
Wrong, one battery died on his 6 year old Hyundai with 200 000 kms on it. He complained to the media and got a free battery even though it was passed the 180k warranty. He laughed all the way to the bank. The other one had nothing to do with road debris either, it was simply defective.
@@mikej238 No, I watched it on another TH-cam channel.
Both vehicles were less than a year old.
Please don’t put words in my mouth.
I know what I watched.
And it really doesn’t matter if it was in Canada or any other country.
The TH-cam channel that was talking about it are based out of Vancouver BC, so that’s how they know what is happening in Canada.
But since you’re Narcissistic, then you always have to be right and the rest of the world is wrong.
So please go argue with a stop sign
Good video. 👍 looking for a hybird compact suv to buy. Is it good to buy now!!
An all electric makes sense as a very small city car, or for rich people with several vehicles. A hybrid or gasoline only car is better for long trips.
Yep - only if you accept paying too much (not even thinking of the huge cost for battery replacement), bearing the much higher insurance cost (high fire risk), higher parts' cost like tyres, the responsibility for a higher pollution (through mining with children!), the impracticality on long roads or when towing, the short life, the unreliability (meaning time and opportunities losses) etc. and - the most important - the control the globalist/Marxist "elites" get over your ass.
Hybrids for us. All Toyota, we've owned a 2007 Prius, a 2017 RAV4 Hybrid, a 2019 Pruis, and just this week, a 2024 Corolla Cross Hybrid.
I live 60 kms North of Toronto (Bradford area), where there are almost no EV chargers to be found. If I were to buy an electric car, the only way for me to get around would be to fully charge up at home and carefully plan my shopping trip to make sure I did not use up too much power so that I could get back home again to charge up. That is not my vision of a 'care-free' shopping trip. Meanwhile, if I get a hybrid, I cut my fuel consumption 50% and I can fill up anywhere.
Hi Shari! Happy Sunday!! Yes, I priced an EV and the Hyundai Kona EV is the lowest price and within my budget. However, to get the same level of "bells and whistles" as my Kona Limited ICE, I would have to buy the top trim level, at $46,000, which is 10 Grand MORE than the top trim ICE version, and the EV does not offer AWD. In addition to the extra ten grand, I would also have to pay an electrician about $1000 to upgrade my home electrical panel and install a level 2 EV charger (regardless of which EV brand I would buy). Therefore, I'm all in on getting a Hybrid!!! As I'm planning on a 36 month lease again, I will revisit the costs for a full EV in 2027, when I would have to decide if I keep my 2024 Hybrid, or turn it in and then get an EV. The battery technology could be radically different by then. But meanwhile, here in the U.S. our "shove EV's down our throats" government is pushing EV sales BUT then took away much of the incentives for that $7500 Federal Tax Credit but toughening the restrictions, so many EV products are no longer eligible (including some Teslas).
After 3 years the BEV Marxist scam will be even more obvious.You might then decide to keep your Toyota hybrid or buy a second-hand Lexus hybrid 😊
Even these discounts can't save the average consumer money on 60k and maintenance cost are way more cost expensive on EV'S than what manufacturers or media states. Do your research tires and insurance on EV's are a huge expense and EV's are 85% more likely to have break down and other issues the ICE vehicles
I have never really looked into the Hybrid or Electric cars as I feel like I am kind of stuck in regular cars/suvs. But if I had to pick one, I think I would pick the Hybrid. The electric kind of sounds like a pain as far as getting the electric charger put in at home. So thank you for the info. I currently have a Kicks and have only had it for just over a year. So I am not really ready for a new car yet. But I do enjoy watching car videos. ;) If I had to pick a new car, my top 3 brands I have been thinking about, in no particular order, are Subaru, Honda & Toyota. My work is about a 25 minute drive from home. And I work on a "hybrid" schedule. haha. And do like to take an occasional road trip now and then. What would you recommend?
A Mazda (choose your preferred segment - I have a Miata ND2 RF).
If you want a hybrid (best of both worlds), Mazda is getting hybridized as we speak by its minority shareholder, Toyota.
All the best!
Hybrid 🙂
Very useful video. Thanks.
No brainer. Hybrid. ✅
As Consumers Reports recently submitted “ EV’s have 79% More problems than ICE vehicles”. And in Canada EV’s cost $20,000-$25,000 more on average.
EV insurance is insanely expensive.😮
5 years from now maybe hybrid vs EV might change. Not today however.
No thanks Elon. 😊
Just a regular petrol car for me, hybrid is good mostly for city and the mpg economy is not such a big deal.
Hybrid electric. Which can charge battery and extend miles when brakes applied
I have both. You run out of electricity with a full EV, you call a tow truck. You run out of electricity. You keep going. Also, there are plenty of gas stations!
Comparing the costs, hybrids make sense to me compared to plugin hybrids. However I have solar on the roof. Do you think I would be missing a lot of free charging if I don't buy electric because my utility company doesn't pay any money for the electricity sent back to the grid.
7:30 into the piece. The cost saving is dependant on the 'length of journeys' overall (suggesting flexibility in any year's motoring) and the price of electricty available at 'any' charging location available. Actual driving context is everything towards what will work best for any individual. From a pure economic perspective the cost total ownership of a full electric would not better the costings for a true hybrid for 'my' context. And there are nothing like enough true hybrids out there. The 'mild' hybrids are getting better, but I'll not be investing in the latest version of my current car unless the 'mild hybrid' it has become equals or better those full hybrids from either Toyota or Honda. Though good, neither produces quite the right vehicle just yet.
BEVs impractical and spontaneous erupt In flames. 24 Corolla Cross SE AWD hybrid hyper miling 80mpg+. My maintenance cost will be minimal as 70% ev. Too bad engine runs to get and maintain temp for emissions purposes ULEV and PZEV. Watch video on easily 2x lifetime of battery, expected 20+ years.
We would have purchased a full EV if the pricing wasn't so high. Our second Prius (a 12 year old model C), needed replacing, but, $60,000 for the least expensive EV here did not appeal. So, we opted for a new Prius Prime at under 2/3's the cost. Having proven the technology over 16 years of ownership with the first two cars, we know the new Prime will be a good investment.
Gas in St. John's currently sits at $ 1.80 L (and, that's down significantly from a year ago). Besides cost we are also intent on reducing our emissions as much as possible. With the $5,000 rebate we received from the two levels of government, the cost for a Prime became more inline with the regular Prius so buying one made great sense. I'm delighted to say that we have been more than impressed with the Prime.
After three and a half months we have driven 4,889 Km, on less than one and a half tanks of gas ! Needless to say, we plug in every evening. Our cost to charge the Traction Battery (from drained), is estimated to be around $ 1.80. I base that number on the fact that even though only about 80% of the battery's 13.6Kwh capacity is "available" to propel the car, there are inefficiencies in the system that consume incoming current. So, I used 13.6Kwh x our hydro rate. This morning when I drove my wife to work, the trip computer indicated an EV range of 91 Km. Yesterday, I drove a total of 88 Km on battery and there was 6% charge left. The car would have easily exceeded 90Km in EV Mode.
For us, this car is a BEV
Those yearly costs are one thing, but the price of purchase for EVs are insane expensive and their resale value is rock bottom. Consider that and you'll run a way from EVs...and insurance?! A small bump in your undercarriage and your EV is written off
Has anyone checked the exorbitant cost of insurance for these electric cars? You can spend more for insurance in eight years then you would replace a $20,000 battery.
We just bought a 2020 chevy bolt for $14k plus a $4k tax credit. Just put liability on it and the liability insurance costs the same as my 2004 chevy venture minivan I traded in here in North Dakota. Around $400/year
we have hybrid toyota, gas Mercedez GL and Tesla model 3 our insurances for 3 cars 3 drivers are almost all same price, I taught insurances are also based on how safe driver you are, not just based on what car you drive.
The only place I would be able to plug the car in is public areas, and it's not available every where
I love all your videos I bought a Tesla model y 2023 long range but I was interested to get a Highlander hybrid limited
Thank you! Hope you're enjoying your Tesla
I’m going with hybrid hand down
Hybrid
What about depression, it is a cost of ownership that you did not include. EV’s have very high depreciation compared to HEV’s.
Correct. Hybrids are much better in that way.
That could change in the near future, as new BEVs get cheaper and hybrids look like the technology of the past.
@@jamesvandamme7786 what does that have to do with depreciation? At the present time EVs are toy cars.
I buy a car to use till it dies not to sell, and based on my experience mostly all car dealership will find ways to get your car for cheap if you trade it or even sell it
I dont believe the "All Ellectric" car is ready for prime time...yet.
At least not for mainstream buyers. And a lot of wealthy buyers dont trust the charging infrastructure yet. If you own one home, and have $1000 to burn for an in-home charger, it can work splendidly, till you go on a cross-country trip. Then the "Charger Paranoia" creeps in.
I am only considering a standard hybrid because we regulary drive between the US West Coast, Florida and Ontario, Canada. I dont need the worry of making a pre-designated charging stop in Bluefield, Ky, only to find some chargers are incapacitated and having to wait for others who are charging endlessly!
No thanks.
In my building, I am the only one who would have plug -in hybrid. Trying to convince the building manager to install sounds like good luck
With a Prius Prime PHEV, you only need a regular (GFI), 115 Volt outlet. If you have underground parking there have to be power outlets already installed. Easy, cheap job for an electrician to arrange to tap into one.
It has to be approved by stratu , plus the car I have ryt now. I am happy with it
@@omarhakimi4099 No offence at all. But, I'd never buy a condo for that very reason. Get out of there.............
I live in a great place, and I don't need to get out of there
Can you please do an in-depth video on plugin hybrid cars and suvs that are currently available in the market and its pros and cons
Sure can. I have a video coming soon 👍
The biggest problem with hybrids now is that demand is greater than supply meaning dealers will ask more than sticker. And most retail orders are sold out. So buyer is at mercy of dealer ordered hybrids in stock that move quickly.
Most manufacturers yes but bought a Honda CRv Hybrid last week and bought off the lot at MSRP with no unnecessary options or any hidden fees or doc fees!
Another thing to note is that we live in a capitalist society, and the companies making charging stations know they have a captive market. In alot of places, it might cost 30$ for a full charge. That basically wipes out any savings over gasoline. In fact, a Prius costs less per mile than an EV depending how long a charge gets you and the rate per KWH. Its really not that economical at the moment to drive an EV, especially when Toyota makes hybrids getting 45-50mpg....
If you charge at home, at night, it's a no brainer.
Our 2024 Prime returns excellent EV Mode milage. Drove it 88Km yesterday and the battery had 6% left. Cost to recharge at home ? Less than $ 1.80. Estimated EV range this morning was 91Km.
And oh, gas here costs $6.75 per gallon. We have gone 5,000Km and used less than 1.5 tanks of fuel.
I have only gas cars (Miata ND2 RF, Suzuki Jimny LCV).
But my wife drives a Lexus UX 250h F Sport and while I like the old school cars, her UX is amazing after almost 6 years without issues (not even a recall, confirming the best reliability rating in its segment), with a very low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), very comfortable and economical etc.
The HEV (better labeled as SCH=Self-Charging Hybrids) are the best of both worlds.
BEV's are unreliable (according to the annual reliability surveys from Consumer Reports), very expensive, with a huge TCO, very polluting, extremely dangerous, impractical etc. Their brothers, PHEV, are almost as bad, especially that they have almost two powertrains.
But mostly I shall not buy such an electric clunker because it is imposed by the globalist "elites" in order to control us.
So a Toyota/Lexus (or a Mazda, Subaru, Honda or Suzuki) hybrid would be the obvious choice for any smart people, instead of a BEV clunker.
Or try to keep your Japanese gas cars as much as possible. Don't buy expensive, unreliable and high TCO non-Japanese clunkers.
Auto manufacturers raised prices after and just prior to when tax credits were approved by the U.S. congress by close to the amount of the credit. In some cases even more. So, when you buy an EV you are taking the tax dollars from other people to give it to the auto makers. How is your government tax credit working out for you now?
Buy what you could afford and fit your need every car has its good and bad.
I chose a Corolla 2023 last year since Toyotas EV sucks. Ugly and way too huge. Other EVs I had in mind would be at least 10k€ more as a base model whereas I got a good middle ground with my Corolla. And hearing what new batteries for BEVs costs I did not really wanted to spend that much. I am absolutely satisfied with my current car and now have enough time to wait what will happen with EVs in the future.
How is this even a debate - EVs are brutally bad in so many ways
Hybrid is the Best 🤭😀🤗
For some people, BEV is best.
prius ❤️
My completely full 100amp fuse panel probably couldn't handle a full EV. I would need to upgrade to a 200amp breaker panel, but that would also enable me to switch to an electric heat pump and replace my 50 year old gas-guzzling furnace.
My issue with EVs is they always have way way more new & highly complicated features that are more likely to break. I was a SIMPLE and stripped down EV.
Agreed. I'd love to buy a barebones lowish (~200km) range EV with next to no bells or whistles to be my commuter vehicle. But nobody is building such an EV for NA markets.
I'd love to get a Nissan Sakura or Mitsubishi eK X. But they aren't options here presently.
@@alanbland1976 agreed. I'm keeping an eye on the MINI Paceman coming soon. MINI got rated 3rd for reliability from CR and they're typically a striped down BMW, so less bells & whistles. But the price will probably be off-putting.
All the car companies are designing cheap EVs. Battery costs are coming down and huge battery plants are being built. They'd better hurry up, the Chinese are looking to move in.
YES to Hybrid no to EV good luck to current owners
Do you own an EV? Did you know the maintenance cost of my EV (Hyundai Ioniq 5) far exceeds the oil changes required in an ICE vehicle? I'm selling my EV and getting a hybrid. Charging infrastructure is not reliable. Charging speeds are not reliable. Winter charging is too slow. Winter range is reduced. Replacement parts are not readily available. A hybrid will be my next vehicle.
I think Lithium batteries for vehicles is a bad idea because of the performance and fire issues. I do not want to get burnt alive. Hybrid is better but prefer gas engines
What do you think a hybrid is? 😂
There are other battery types also used which are more safe than traditional lithium ion Batterie they are called: lithium iron phosphate they can’t burn or explode but they have a much lower energy density than normal lithium ion batteries
Look at the NHTSA figures on car fires. Gas vehicles are much ,more prone to fires than EVs. Hybrids are the worst. A gas car fire isn't news. "Man bites dog is news."
@@mikej238 Oh Mike, that's just priceless. Hahahahahahahahah...........
I'm not sure I would have started off by describing hybrids as having a "large battery" when a typical hybrid battery is nearly 30 TIMES smaller than an EV battery. Otherwise good video.
PHEV batteries are larger than standard hybrids. The other thing is that they work hard, especially if you run them in EV mode all the time and recharge every night. A pure EV gets charged every 200 miles or more, so less cycles.
@@jamesvandamme7786 With our 24 Prime, even when you select Hybrid Mode, the car will not run the engine until the Traction Battery has died, unless, you switch-on some resistive loads. Heat, heated seats etc..
Toyota knows this so, as they are offering a ten year warranty on the Traction Battery they must have confidence charging everyday will not be an issue.
I like them both
Definitely a Toyota Hybrid. Considering CO2 footprint, reliability, convenience, price, etc., no doubt that a Toyota Hybrid is the best option. I have a 2011 Toyota Prius with almost 200k miles, MPG is consistently above 52 and without any major fix, only regular oil and filter change. I recently bought a Toyota Venza and I am absolutely happy with such amazing car.
What carbon foot print? Is You really that dull?
Canada produces 3$ of world's green gases!!!!!!!
And does the battery magically appear? How much green gases are produced making the damn thing, how much pollution is it going to produce when the battery is dead?????
Like have you contact thinking 10 years ahead ever?
The Carbon footprint is an "eco"-Marxist invention.
The CO2 is vital for photosynthesis so that plants can give you in exchange O2.
Old battery technology, triple insurance costs, terrible performance in cold weather, more expensive to fast charge than gas and worthless resale values, kill all the EV argument. Price to repair in any accident especially any damage to battery pack is a complete loss especially when trying to resell an EV that is flagged on Carfax. Hybrid is an easy winner in all categories. No waiting in lines, great resale, value, 10 year warranties to life on some Kia vehicles bought at certain dealerships. Finally, safety has not been discussed when you have a daughter or female sitting in their car at a charging station as a sitting duck for criminals! Millions of Americans are ditching their EVS at an alarming rate as used car lots are filling up with someone else's problems and headaches.
Hybrids are the best of both worlds, as they are the most reliable car segment and have the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) according to Consumer Reports.
Add the high safety, super quietness, extra-power, excellent resale value etc.
A hybrid car is two cars, a bad electric car and a bad gasoline car, inside the body of one car. A hybrid car is big on the outside and small on the inside. A hybrid car has a more complex construction compared to any other car. All cars need to be maintained and repaired.
Tell me that you know nothing about hybrids without saying it directly.
Let's start with the statistics: while the self-charging hybrids are the most reliable cars (and have the lowest TCO=Total Cost of Ownership), the BEV and the PHEV are among the most unreliable car segments (and get huge TCO, because if the necessary battery replacement), according to Consumer Reports annual reliability surveys.
The self-charging hybrids are the best of both worlds because their purpose is very different from that of the BEV and PHEV.
HEV (placed in the EV category for ideological scope) purpose is to save fuel - through recovering and stocking most of the kinetic energy (otherwise lost when braking). Moreover, a secondary but very important consequence of the regenerative braking is that it helps a lot the braking system, causing a far longer life for its elements, because there is less friction (less transformation into heat). And the hybrid system does indeed add the inverter and the small (relative to the huge ones from BEV) accumulator and some ECU and wiring to the existing ICE car, but it saves with the alternator, starter and some other classic elements that will break sometime.
BEV fans claim that the BEV is far simpler than an ICE because it has far less moving parts. It is a lie by omission: the electric wiring and the electronics complexity add plenty of issues (as they do on the ICE cars), making the BEV and PHEV highly unreliable.
Some stupid fans are also claiming that the efficiency is huge - no, it's not, because the BEV and PHEV carry around the heavy weight of the battery!
And the bigger the battery, the more likely it is a thermal runout that is very intense and enormously polluting (beside the production pollution).
Sadly, there are still some people buying BEV and PHEV even without subsidies (that are a theft from all tax-payers) despite such vehicles being proven as dangerous, unreliable, high TCO, expensive, polluting, impractical, low resale value clunkers.
Some are attracted by the very fast accelerations of such computers/batteries on wheels, but afterwards you see them driving cautiously behind trucks to save the range etc.
Gasoline
This is not ok how much cost change battery,60 or 80 000 dollars and location America or Europe absolutely different prices for electric..........
The benefit of saving on fuel cost is not worth compares to stress when dealing with complications of charging electric vehicle.
full ev sucks, anything but that
change the car or change the driver. former is very expensive. latter costs nothing
Have both hybrids and Tesla EV. Tesla MY is really fun to drive. Toyota hybrids although may be reliable, are slow and sluggish to drive (unless it’s a BMW PHEV which perform very well).
The snowflakes are very stupid, they believe the "eco"-Marxist propaganda.
Except for the amazing accelerations, there are no reasons to buy a BEV/PHEV.
(SC)Hybrids are the right way for the time being.
Price of course is the most important. Common sense hybrids car have two system so maintenance cost is logically higher while EV had much lesser maintenance cost on long term.
Your "logic" is contradicted by the harsh reality (statistics): the hybrids are far better in cost, reliability, TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) etc.
Unfortunately, you are a victim of the "eco"-Marxist propaganda, promoting the BEV scam.
Really?
That's why the hybrids' segment is the most reliable and has the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) while the BEV and PHEV are very unreliable and have a huge TCO according to Consumer Reports?
Short answer: Gas car
Shorter answer HEV
They consum more fuel are more expensive and more unreliable. Toyotas hybrids have a top reliability,consum less fuel than traditional gas cars
@@mikej238 One quarter longer answer, PHEV.
That 25% difference is more than made-up for from the economy to be won with a plug-in. I'm finding it hard to believe how good our 2024 Prime is regards operating cost. We've gone 5,000Km on less than 1.5 tanks. Full charge for under $1.80 takes us at least (in summer), 80Km's
Don't bother trying to debate cheuky. He's fixated on next November and de'm V8"s
@@TomLawlor-iq6gm still next to impossible to get a Prime where I live , wait time is very long and you would be lucky to get one for less than 10g above msrp
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Yet straight gasser lovers will still claim a hybrid costs more to service. 😂
Neither. Keeping my high horsepower hot rod until it drops. Truthfully, I would say hybrid. We as a nation aren't ready to go all EV. The infostructure isn't in place to support it.
Both are junk, but you can at least drive hybrid as a normal car.
A hybrid AND a short -range electric vehicle for a 2-car household.
Neither.
yes they do need oil tesla oil look it up and its so expensive
But you don't change it.
Neither
Horse.
if you can charge at home . buy full electric . have solar pannels .
if you do not charge at home do not buy full electric . or plug in Hybrids .
full hybrid is the best option . just gas and good to go .
I charge at work 95% of the time for free. Level 2. I rarely charge at home because it cost me 5 cents per kwH. I used DCFC only 4x for entire year.
I honestly think that this needs to stop.
You are directly misleading consumers.
Gas car $2500 a year? Based on what?
10l/100km(which is below average fuel consumption) $2500 buys you 1800L of fuel, that makes 18000km a year. Which is below average as well. They you say hybrid car will burn $1800 of fuel.
$700 a year savings.......so, you drive the car for 5 years, save 3500$ on fuel. But pay 9000$ more to buy the hybrid. Please explain me where are the savings ?
I paid €2'600 more to get the hybrid instead of the ICE equivalent (not really equivalent, because the hybrid has more power, higher mpg and some additional features).
Your comment is a huge lie.
I did offset this price difference in less than 3 years (I have more cars, thus not so many miles on this one, that my wife usually drives). The price of a new acumulator/battery (labour included) for my Lexus hybrid is around €3'000, that can be covered by my family driving in a little bit over 3 years, while the battery lasts far more than 10 years (I have 10-years/175'000km warranty for it by having it checked annually by the dealership - for free!).
So I am on a big plus from all points of view (including the quieter rides, the better handling, the extra-comfort features, the reliability, low TCO etc.) except the smaller trunk (but I don't need it to be too big, it can still transport a 65' OLED TV - I did that).
Still, my Miata ND2 RF G-184 Top Revolution with the Red Soul Crystal paint and Recaro seats etc. gives me far more fun (in the mountainous area I live in or on the Greek islands' curves). The same for my Suzuki Jimny LCV in the off-road or on my mountains' roads/curves...
So I like more my ICE cars, but the hybrid is the best of both worlds.
It does have an extra battery, invertor etc., but it doesn't have anymore a starter, alternator, belt etc.
BEV fans claim that the electric clunkers are superior because they have far less mechanical complexity. True, but they have far more electrical complexity (and that's why they are so unreliable and have a big TCO - according to Consumer Reports annual reliability survey, that also discovered that hybrids are the most reliable and have the lowest TCO).
So I prefer the hybrids to the dangerous, unreliable, high TCO, expensive, polluting, impractical BEV clunkers.
I bought a used EV for 21k CAD total. I drove 10k kms last year. I rarely charge at my garage because it cost me 5 cents per kwh. Most of my charging is at work (level 2 charger for free). I only DCFC 4x for entire year and cost me $28 total. Long trips are not a problem with my 450km range EV. 0 maintenance done. Never going back to gas or hybrid.
The commies always enjoy gratuities (they think some things they get are for free, but those costs (like charging, EV subsidies) are covered by other people's work.
You lost me at saving $200 a year on gas when the initial cost of the hybrid system is $2,000 up and likely over $4,000. Do the math and remember you need a new battery in 10 years.
If the battery in a Toyota hybrid fails after 10 years you just keep driving with a very economical 4cyl engine.
We have a 2024 Prime. It now has 5,000Km on the OD. To date, we have used less than 1.5 tanks of fuel. This car will save us a lot of money.
Batteries in both are expensive both are a few thousand dollars
Not quite, a battery for a PHEV is far bigger (thus far heavier and far more prone to thermal runway) than a SCH battery, thus far more expensive.
A hybrid battery is usually below 2k (the cost of mine was offset in about 3 years despite being driven below average), a plug-in battery can easily be above 10k.
@@codincoman9019 to me anything over 500 is expensive as im extreme low income
If you really are environmentally minded you would drive an EV like a person trying to get the most fuel mileage out of a hybrid. Otherwise you are lying to yourself. Big battery EVs should be illegal or charged a high premium because they drive up the costs for more practical PHEV'S.
Totally agree.
@@TomLawlor-iq6gmI ended up buying a 2024 VW iD.4 AWD PRO S because my 2005 Prius gave up the ghost and with incentives/tax credits I got $22,651 off $56k MSRP. We have a 2005 Pilot I will only replace with a PHEV if there will ever be a same or better deal on something like the RAV4 Prime or equivalent. I live in an area where charging outside of home is not such a great alternative for reaching the areas outside of the city we go frequently.
get a horse