Great review, Tim!!! Question, i have the 2024 model of GT sport, E-twow, did your rear drum brake make a clicking sound when you used it? im assuming its a antilock brake, but idk if thats normal or mine's messed up. thanks in advance! Great stuff!
The only thing I hate about the GT SE having put 400 miles on it is the horn. In NYC no one reacts to the horn. You can honk your brains out and the person walking in front of you with Air Pods in their ears won’t even flinch, forget about them moving out of your way. Been looking for an aftermarket horn that sounds like a train horn or something really loud. Was hoping they change the horn on the new model…
@daa82 if you find a good one on Amazon can you let me know? I typically can't find the bell/horn on the Uscooter when I need it...I need something else too :)
I did reach out to Fluid Free Ride #fluidfreeride but they didn't reply...no big guy review for them lol :) However I did see that the UScooter version is using superior batteries so there is that :) Hope that helps :) Cheers Tim
depends...usually doesn't matter but in slippery conditions....probably better at the back...not a huge difference...unless you're super fast and want to kick out the back wheel :)
@Doug K haha yes indeed...I've stopped running scooters up the hill of death if they're single motor scooters as non of them made it up :) But beware the next dual motor scooter that I get my hands on! :)
Awesome question @JimmyDurden, but I haven't tied a mosquito. The company said they would send one last year but then crickets ...I do know that they're similar but having the Uscooter on the wall in my hallway (and I used it on Wednesday on a rainy day to go pick up my car from the shop)...it's awesome love it :)
they are similar...the Uscooters uses Samsung batteries ...not generic ones...also it's faster :) ESG just did an awesome review on it and compared the two...check it out here: th-cam.com/video/QgX9sa7FehQ/w-d-xo.html
Hi Mike, I need to do a video on this....very soon...like maybe next week :) Quick answer... GT is quicker but less range plus it has suspension (not much but with solid tires necessary) The Niu has a much longer range The GT is a lot lighter. Love the folding mechanism on them both..but the Niu is a little nicer in the folding department. Overall...I tend to reach for the GT more than the Niu...I think because if I need a longer range I gravitate towards a larger unit like the Apollo City Pro :)
@Peter L that's a good question...I think similar...maybe the edge to the Zero 8 or 9...they were pretty comfortable plus they had air filled tires...but then I've never had a flat on my Uscooter and had about 5-6 on my Zero 9 and two on my Zero 10x
@@TimsElectric well I still use my zero 8 and I've owned it for over 3 yrs now. I've never had a flat with it. If you recall, the zero 8 has a solid rear tire.
Hi I am 5’3 and 110 pound (not sure if it matters) I’m looking at the GT sport and the Boost V. I live in Chicago everything is in at most a 5 mile radius from my apartment. What’s important to me is the weight of the scooter.. Is the GT sport a noticeable difference? Or do you think someone my size would notice? I like the idea of a bigger battery but I’m not sure if the 4lbs is so noticeable when carrying. Please let me know what your recommendation would be thank you
Hi Jasmine, you sound like you're the same size as my lovely wife. She absolutely loves her Booster V. She does notice the difference in the weight but it's not huge :) They're both awesome..I even use the Booster V and I'm way bigger than you :) However...for peace of mind...you might go with the GT Sport for the little bit of extra range. BTW,,,,there's nothing even close to the power/weight ratio of the UScooters...they're so light but really so peppy :) Let me know which one you decide on and if you love it once you get them...my wife truly loves hers ....she's already told me that I'm not allowed to sell hers ever lol :)
that's my understanding...I just got home from dinner (I rode the GT Sport and my wife the Booster V)...makes parking and the ride on a summers evening lovely :)
I use it every so often...it's the smallest so if I'm going somewhere and I need the extra space savings I use it. Also my typical rides are short 1-4 miles ...so to answer your question..it's a tight fit but it works...I wouldn't want to go 10-15 miles but then that's not what I use it for :) :) hope that helps :)
Hi Tim, did you ever switch out the controller for this to address the speed change at 40% battery for the GT Sport? I still want to do it but had no luck searching for a video. Thanks
apply chapstick liberally into every gap and crack and you are golden. do that and you can expect zero water ingress and zero rust. safety wise, keep the speeds on the low end b/c even though the tire grip is very good it's not good enough for sharp fast turns in wet conditions.
Mine slows a lot at around 40%, has low range and the electronic brake is too weak to stop the scooter from higher speeds. The new controller used in the 2022 GT Sport has wrecked a lot of the good qualities of the 2021 GT SE. Hopefully E-TWOW fixes this quickly. TH-cam reviewers receiving free items to keep are often (understandably) reluctant to criticize, so sometimes you have to read between the lines. If you see faults rationalized or someone damning with faint praise then it’s time for you to worry about a product.
I'm happy to share what I like and don't like. I think if I were to compare, I would acknowledge that that I preferred the previous iteration for those two reasons. To that end when I do a comparison video I think you'll see. However for someone that hasn't ridden both, possibly new to scooters I think they'd find it amazing too...I loved it and didn't find the braking an issue.....but have heard others unhappy with it. I'm interested to see what they do ...update would be cool.....I haven't seen many manufacturers fix/update their scooters.
Fair enough, Tim but I think you either were being a bit generous in the criticism of the braking, or else you received a slightly modified GT Sport compared to those of other early adopters. Since you’re the first person to post a TH-cam review of this model, I think it’s important that the pros and cons be clearly outlined. There are probably a few people that will be ordering the GT Sport solely based on your review. I read somewhere else last week that new versions may be shipping with a different controller. I don’t know if that has to be specifically requested or if all subsequent GT Sports will have the new controller. It’s also not yet clear if this is the GT SE controller, or how the new controller will affect features like top speed, braking, range and cruise control. Even if the new controller reduces the top speed to 25 mph, as long as it fixes the electronic braking and range issues and keeps the cruise control, the GT Sport would probably be the best lightweight scooter on the market.
I wondered that myself but I think I got one of the first models to review ...so I think I have the same model that others are complaining about is what I received. I'll be doing a follow up video at some point as I'm not happy with the reduced power at 40% battery either...I think it was you that picked up on this....but otherwise it's still my daily scooter (the GT SE is in the closet) ,...love this thing :) I have also heard that they are now shipping with an updated controller (I think they have to flash the existing controller or something) but apparently any sold now will have a similar controller experience as the GT SE....I'm happy with the way mine is but perhaps it'll make others more happy :) It would have been super frustrating for Uscooters though...can you imagine? Can you keep me up to date as to what happens with you? Do they ship you a new controller or do you have to do an update...just curious :) Cheers
I sent mine back and I am now waiting to hear from them what they think the problem was. But it seems clear that the initial batch of GT Sports has an issue with the controllers and I suspect the controller may also have affected my battery pack. I was thinking about either getting an Inokim OX (for reliability) or else having them replace my GT Sport with a GT SE, but if the updated GT Sport controller fixes the issues with range, acceleration and braking, while retaining the 28 mph top speed and cruise control, then I might just have them send me a new GT Sport instead. And unfortunately, while I’ve been waiting to find out what to do with my GT Sport, Urbanmachina is now sold out of the version of the Inokim OX that I was considering. (If you have never reviewed the OX, I would suggest that you call Urbanmachina in Vancouver and see if they’d be willing to lend you one of their demo units for review.) E-TWOW definitely put Uscooters in an awkward position. Given how incremental the changes have been in the GT over the past three years, it’s quite surprising that E-TWOW would have shipped the GT Sport with these issues. A single test ride should have made everything fairly obvious and it should have been easy to then update the controller firmware. Over one month after the release of the GT Sport it appears that you are still the only TH-camr with a review posted! Can you *please* do a comparison ASAP between the GT Sport and the GT SE, doing a range test at top speed and comment on how quickly the top speed declines for each? Those of us using scooters for commuting typically ride at top speed to minimize travel time, so this info would be very useful. If the GT SE can maintain a top speed of say 23-25 mph for a lot longer than the GT Sport can maintain a top speed of 26-28 mph, then the GT SE might actually be the best choice for commuters. This is the kind of real world info that only TH-cam reviewers seem to be able to deliver. Thanks for taking the time to review all of these scooters.
Thanks so much for sharing. I do hope you get a replacement soon :) Hopefully the GT Sport (version 2) is exactly what you need. It is odd that E-TWOW shipped without testing..very odd. I haven't tried the OX yet but will reach out to UrbanMachina as they seem like awesome people :) They are a fair distance from though (I'm on an island with a two hour ferry to get onto the mainland $280 to get there and back plus gas ...I need an EV :) ). I totally understand the idea of comparing the two...but if there's a second version then it probably makes more sense for me to hold off. If as you mentioned the new ones are fixed and basically updated GT SEs then I think the problem is probably fixed and thus a comparison mute. Although, I really didn't have an issue with mine...I use it daily (no today it's raining) but several times a week and the GT SE is in the closet for now. I'm actually moving away from just doing reviews (you may notice this in the coming weeks), so it may be awhile. Although you have made me curious...about the range and top speeds...I need to get an app to figure out my speeds. Thanks so much for sharing...Typically I have the throttle on max for when I'm riding the UScooter too.
I love the GT SE for commuting, I have over 200 miles on it now and it is going strong. The only thing I find strange is that if you’re going downhill the regen brakes don’t stop all the way. I need to apply the handbrake or foot brake to stop completely. Have you noticed the same?
@daa82 that's interesting that you say that...as you probably know with my reviews I'm not very technical...for me I'm trying to get across what it feels like to ride the scooter...but you're probably right...I think I use the regen about 90% of the time...and the mechanical brake only when I need it for a sudden stop or if I'm going downhill a bit too fast and want to ensure I'm going to be able to stop :)
@Coocola L3 this is what I miss from the Xiaomi m365. When you pressed the handbrake it would activate both the regen brake and the disc brake. On the GT SE I sometimes feel like in the moment it is hard to decide whether to use regen, handbrake or foot brake but I like your idea of developing muscle memory to always use handbrake + regen instead of using regen + sometimes adding handbrake if you feel the stopping power is too slow. Too much decision making
@Coocola L3 wise indeed....I wonder how hard it is to replace the tire on a GT SE...also if one is easier than the other...front or back..I'll find out int he next year or so I suspect :)
What's the real world range for this model at top speed? Really need a light and compact scooter for my wife who needs to ride it at least 2 miles to the train station and another mile to her work afterwards. Was considering the Unagi Model one but that real world range is abysmal for what you're paying. Also needed solid tires to avoid punctures as my area is prone to punctures galore. The looks and ease of folding this scooter is really appealing. Just wanted to know if you've tested it for real world mileage before I bite the bullet.
@MrHockaluger range is dependent on so many factors...but if you let me know her weight and city I can figure it out for you :) She might be good with the UScooter Booster V...if she's light enough and it's a little bit lighter...but either should be fine...I'm 265lbs and would have no problem doing 6 Miles on it daily :) (The GT Sport) Let me know :) happy to help.
@@TimsElectric She's less than 110 lbs and maybe 4'11" so the adjustable height of the scooter was also a plus. Reason I wanted this particular model is if I like it, too, I might get one myself. She only has one little hill to ride up to get to the train station so hopefully that 750 watt motor has enough oomph for her. My commute though is mostly flat but much farther at 5 miles each way which was why a longer range scooter is more intriguing for me.
Oh I see...in that case I'd buy the Uscooter GT Sport (use my discount code to save a few bucks :) ) and then if she lets you borrow it :) you can try it out and see if it'll work for you :) It has no problem getting me around and I'm 265lbs so it'll be quick for her.....plus if you love it you can get her the Booster V...my wife has one and loves it...we have three Uscooters hanging on the wall of our apartment :) they're awesome and pretty much maintenance free :)
I’m 6’3, 240 lbs and I do about 6 miles daily in stop and go traffic in NYC and some high speed ~24mph when I get home in the suburbs with a few steep hills ~10 degrees straight up on the way back home. I can easily do 3 days of this without charging on the GT SE so that makes it about 18 miles at which point it is down to 20% battery power. I could probably do another day of this but I don’t risk it as it gets a bit sluggish on hills when battery remaining is less than 50% but am still able to get about 22mph on straightaways even at 20% battery left.
@@MrHockaluger the oomph here would probably be a bit overkill for her. She’s light as a feather compared to Tim and I. I think a 250 watt motor is all she needs. I had a Xiaomi Mi Lite which had a 300 watt motor - it was totally fine for me, achieved 15mph on straightaway with my weight but it couldn’t climb hills with my weight but with your wife’s weight and height I don’t see that being a problem. Maybe look at Swagger V1, that one weighs about 15lbs/8kg- 1/2 of the UScooter weight. Would be easy to carry around on a train for a smaller build person like your wife or perhaps look at a Glion Dolly with its cool folding mechanism. Another interesting choice is the Segway Air.
So do you have any recommendations for a solid dual motor escooter with an available saddle for under 2k? I just bought my first budget escooter (a Kugoo Kirin M4 Pro), and overall I'm extremely happy with it and having a blast. My problem is that I live in a very hilly area, and I'm a big guy too (235ish) so the 500 watt M4 Pro, while plenty fast in the flat, really struggles on some of the hills in the areas. There are roads I flat out won't go down because I know it will never make it back up. I prefer to ride seated with the option to stand for a bit to give my ass a rest, so I'm looking for a dual motor scooter for my next purchase. I just haven't seen any in my price range that have a saddle available.
@@TimsElectric Thanks for the response Tim! Actually the Cruiser is at the top of my list right now, but I'm having second thoughts after watching it fail your hill test. I do love that one overall though, and I'm sure it would do better with a running start (and you've got 30 or so pounds on me lol), and I've heard nothing but good things about the scooter and Voromotors, so yea, currently at the top of the list. This will be next year's purchase anyway as I only just bought the M4 Pro a month ago and I AM very satisfied with it other than the hill problem, and truthfully there is no scooter in it's price range that would do better on the hills.
@@thevoiceofreason4104 Thanks I'll check that one out! Edit: That has some impressive specs for the price. Didn't see a saddle kit offered for it though, and I'd like to have a slightly bigger battery. I think the Cruiser is still ahead.
I need to say, that the Emove Cruiser I had was the older less powerful model. I wonder if it would make it up the hill of death (the new model They even have a coupon code $50 off any new electric scooter from the EMOVE and Kaabo brands which is what the Cruiser is. Let me know if the coupon code works :) Coupon Code: TimothyWestElectric
@Doug K thanks ...it'll be a minute as I'm taking a week off to go camping :) But a comparison with a "should I upgrade from the GT SE to the GT Sport" but I need to put on about another 100 miles first :)
Wanted to let you know I just ordered one and I used your code, "TimsElectric" Thanks for the $80 off! I got my Hiboy S2 Pro back in September, it's been perfect, even survived a crash in Dec, not into a car luckily. My throttle shit the bed about 3 weeks ago. I've still been able to use it by keeping the throttle right in that sweet spot avoiding the dreaded E2 Error. Today though, it was bad... Jerky and working intermittently. I sent Hiboy an email when it first started and they got back to me surprisingly fast and sent out a new throttle, I just got it and it's half the size of the original, guess they're going cheap. Trying to replace this should be quite an experience. th-cam.com/video/Z4nOv19uz6U/w-d-xo.html Ever since the throttle busted, I've been looking to see if anything new came out and stumbled onto your channel. I'd been considering the Fluidfreeride Mosquito but after reading some Reddit comments and such, I decided on the Uscooter GT Sport, basically the same scooter just different Batteries. Looking forward to getting it and seeing how it is.
On the GT SE and original GT, you can unlock 33mph top speed using a code(I'll link below). With this top speed unlocked, is the GT sport still faster? Still worth it? Code: 2020 Instructions: th-cam.com/video/3j5g4jspaIM/w-d-xo.html
WOW ...I didn't know this..it's quick but I didn't know it was that quick...with me on it (unlocked) it's plenty fast for me so I won't be unlocking it...but cool to see :) 20-25mph is plenty fast on such a small scooter without a full face shield :)
@@TimsElectric Well with my GT unlocked I only get about 27mph since I'm 200lbs. I'm looking to upgrade my GT to a GT Sport or just GT SE. Could you possibly try out the code on your GT and tell me how how it now compares to the GT Sport? I can't find anyone who could give me insight on this issue. This would help me make a decision on what to get. Thanks for replying Tim, hope you're having a good day.
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Thanks for the review and always reminding me of how beautiful Victoria is !
Cheers Ray...it was a lovely day once the fog cleared :)
Been waiting for this, thanks Tim😎
Cheers Brent :)
I bought mine kast wait, arrives tom. I was waiting for this. Thx!!
You're welcome
Great review Tim!
Thanks Tone
Great review, Tim!!! Question, i have the 2024 model of GT sport, E-twow, did your rear drum brake make a clicking sound when you used it? im assuming its a antilock brake, but idk if thats normal or mine's messed up. thanks in advance! Great stuff!
Odd...mine doesn't have a clicking sound...I would ask them :) @spikesvideos ..I typically just use the ebrake...so much quieter :)
@@TimsElectricgreat thank you! I now have a mosquito after returning the GT.
Another great review. Thanks Tim.
Thanks 🙂
Superb video!
Do you know if the 2023 version is any different? Maybe slower? It used to say 28mph on the website now it says 26, tysm!
i did find it a bit slower (2mph makes sense) but honestly when riding it seems plenty fast :)
and it's so small and light...love it :)
Thanks for having a coupon code. Electric scooter guide doesn't have one. I'm hoping to get one of these in the next 6 months after saving up.
@John Stover I think you'll like it :) :)
The only thing I hate about the GT SE having put 400 miles on it is the horn. In NYC no one reacts to the horn. You can honk your brains out and the person walking in front of you with Air Pods in their ears won’t even flinch, forget about them moving out of your way. Been looking for an aftermarket horn that sounds like a train horn or something really loud. Was hoping they change the horn on the new model…
@daa82 if you find a good one on Amazon can you let me know? I typically can't find the bell/horn on the Uscooter when I need it...I need something else too :)
Hey Tim! Great review! Do you know if the Uscooters site delivers to Canada? I'm in Toronto
Gosh i don't know....my home town is TO :)
I'd reach out to them , they're very responsive :)
The weight of it is the deal maker for me for carrying on the Metra in Chicago
you could look at the Booster V...it's even lighter but a solid little unit :)
@@TimsElectric I like the GT Sport for the power. The weight is perfect.
@@RSI24 I do to..but my wife prefers the V Booster...it's a bit lighter for her :)
No Hill of Death test?
Sadly, I haven't tried it...maybe I'll do a short when i get back from camping 😀
Is the backwheel cover a type of usable break as well?
Cheers for the nice video, btw!
It is....sorry i missed that 🙃
Hey Tim. Any thoughts on this vs. Fluid Mosquito?
I did reach out to Fluid Free Ride #fluidfreeride but they didn't reply...no big guy review for them lol :)
However I did see that the UScooter version is using superior batteries so there is that :)
Hope that helps :)
Cheers
Tim
Which one is better front motor or rear motor?
depends...usually doesn't matter but in slippery conditions....probably better at the back...not a huge difference...unless you're super fast and want to kick out the back wheel :)
Excellent review! I do have 1 question though,...WHERES THE HILL OF DEATH??? 😭
@Doug K haha yes indeed...I've stopped running scooters up the hill of death if they're single motor scooters as non of them made it up :)
But beware the next dual motor scooter that I get my hands on! :)
@@TimsElectric you have a point there. It's the rare single motor scooter that's capable for us bigger guys. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
cheers @Doug K
Is the sport water resistant?
What I can say is I've been caught in some rain up here on the island and had no issues with the previous version (GT SE)
Is there any app for this gt sport? Thanks.
Awesome question @topandrun126, I don't think so...but if you find one let me know as I'd like o adjust the top speed on it ...it's too fast lol :)
Should I get this or a Fluid Mosquito?
Awesome question @JimmyDurden, but I haven't tied a mosquito. The company said they would send one last year but then crickets ...I do know that they're similar but having the Uscooter on the wall in my hallway (and I used it on Wednesday on a rainy day to go pick up my car from the shop)...it's awesome love it :)
Uscooter GT Sport and Fluidfreerides Mosquito are identical?
they are similar...the Uscooters uses Samsung batteries ...not generic ones...also it's faster :) ESG just did an awesome review on it and compared the two...check it out here: th-cam.com/video/QgX9sa7FehQ/w-d-xo.html
Tim....I'm looking at the GT Sport versus the NIU KQi3 Max-thoughts?
Hi Mike,
I need to do a video on this....very soon...like maybe next week :)
Quick answer...
GT is quicker but less range
plus it has suspension (not much but with solid tires necessary)
The Niu has a much longer range
The GT is a lot lighter.
Love the folding mechanism on them both..but the Niu is a little nicer in the folding department.
Overall...I tend to reach for the GT more than the Niu...I think because if I need a longer range I gravitate towards a larger unit like the Apollo City Pro :)
How's the ride quality of this compared to the Zero 8?
@Peter L that's a good question...I think similar...maybe the edge to the Zero 8 or 9...they were pretty comfortable plus they had air filled tires...but then I've never had a flat on my Uscooter and had about 5-6 on my Zero 9 and two on my Zero 10x
@@TimsElectric well I still use my zero 8 and I've owned it for over 3 yrs now. I've never had a flat with it. If you recall, the zero 8 has a solid rear tire.
@@aragorn318 ahh yes...awesome design...I had the Zero 9 and had forgotten :) :) solid little unit then :) :)
Hi I am 5’3 and 110 pound (not sure if it matters) I’m looking at the GT sport and the Boost V. I live in Chicago everything is in at most a 5 mile radius from my apartment. What’s important to me is the weight of the scooter.. Is the GT sport a noticeable difference? Or do you think someone my size would notice? I like the idea of a bigger battery but I’m not sure if the 4lbs is so noticeable when carrying. Please let me know what your recommendation would be thank you
Hi Jasmine, you sound like you're the same size as my lovely wife.
She absolutely loves her Booster V.
She does notice the difference in the weight but it's not huge :)
They're both awesome..I even use the Booster V and I'm way bigger than you :)
However...for peace of mind...you might go with the GT Sport for the little bit of extra range.
BTW,,,,there's nothing even close to the power/weight ratio of the UScooters...they're so light but really so peppy :)
Let me know which one you decide on and if you love it once you get them...my wife truly loves hers ....she's already told me that I'm not allowed to sell hers ever lol :)
Is the same motor as gtse just different controller, display and battery
that's my understanding...I just got home from dinner (I rode the GT Sport and my wife the Booster V)...makes parking and the ride on a summers evening lovely :)
I know this video is about the GT sport, but were you able to nicely fit both your feet on the booster V.
I use it every so often...it's the smallest so if I'm going somewhere and I need the extra space savings I use it. Also my typical rides are short 1-4 miles ...so to answer your question..it's a tight fit but it works...I wouldn't want to go 10-15 miles but then that's not what I use it for :) :) hope that helps :)
Hy, so I see the users have some problems with this gts... Asking for parts and such. So all in all GT SE is a better choice? Please share! Thank you
Sport is best ...newer controller, faster top speed :)
@@TimsElectric yes, but I see a lower battery 🔋 capacity than the SE... OR I'M mistaken? 🤔
I believe it's the same number of cells though..so capacity should be very similar :)
What is the weight of the scooter and what is the maximun weight limit on it?
I think it's about 27lbs and it handle my weight without issue...I'm 265lbs.
But hit their website for the official numbers :)
I saw a co-worker ride a “Fluid Mosquito”. It looked very similar to my GT SE. Have you looked at it vs. GT SE or GT Sport?
they are very similar. Looks like they're a little bit cheaper to buy but use generic batteries instead of Samsung cells like your Uscooter. :)
@@TimsElectric ah, that's where they get you. I'll ask my coworker if I can try it out sometime.
let me know how he likes it...but I am happy with the Uscooters :)
Hi Tim, did you ever switch out the controller for this to address the speed change at 40% battery for the GT Sport? I still want to do it but had no luck searching for a video. Thanks
I chickened out...sorry....I still use it though :) I just make sure to be home before I hit 50% :)
What about riding on wet surfaces / in the rain? Not recommended right?
Don't do it....unless you have to :)
apply chapstick liberally into every gap and crack and you are golden. do that and you can expect zero water ingress and zero rust.
safety wise, keep the speeds on the low end b/c even though the tire grip is very good it's not good enough for sharp fast turns in wet conditions.
Do you really think the break distance is decent? It seems so long? Is that just me or did I miss something? :-/
For me it's fine....but if you want excellent brakes you'll need twin hydraulic disc brakes....much bigger unit then though
Mine slows a lot at around 40%, has low range and the electronic brake is too weak to stop the scooter from higher speeds. The new controller used in the 2022 GT Sport has wrecked a lot of the good qualities of the 2021 GT SE.
Hopefully E-TWOW fixes this quickly.
TH-cam reviewers receiving free items to keep are often (understandably) reluctant to criticize, so sometimes you have to read between the lines. If you see faults rationalized or someone damning with faint praise then it’s time for you to worry about a product.
I'm happy to share what I like and don't like. I think if I were to compare, I would acknowledge that that I preferred the previous iteration for those two reasons. To that end when I do a comparison video I think you'll see. However for someone that hasn't ridden both, possibly new to scooters I think they'd find it amazing too...I loved it and didn't find the braking an issue.....but have heard others unhappy with it. I'm interested to see what they do ...update would be cool.....I haven't seen many manufacturers fix/update their scooters.
Fair enough, Tim but I think you either were being a bit generous in the criticism of the braking, or else you received a slightly modified GT Sport compared to those of other early adopters.
Since you’re the first person to post a TH-cam review of this model, I think it’s important that the pros and cons be clearly outlined. There are probably a few people that will be ordering the GT Sport solely based on your review.
I read somewhere else last week that new versions may be shipping with a different controller. I don’t know if that has to be specifically requested or if all subsequent GT Sports will have the new controller. It’s also not yet clear if this is the GT SE controller, or how the new controller will affect features like top speed, braking, range and cruise control.
Even if the new controller reduces the top speed to 25 mph, as long as it fixes the electronic braking and range issues and keeps the cruise control, the GT Sport would probably be the best lightweight scooter on the market.
I wondered that myself but I think I got one of the first models to review ...so I think I have the same model that others are complaining about is what I received.
I'll be doing a follow up video at some point as I'm not happy with the reduced power at 40% battery either...I think it was you that picked up on this....but otherwise it's still my daily scooter (the GT SE is in the closet) ,...love this thing :)
I have also heard that they are now shipping with an updated controller (I think they have to flash the existing controller or something) but apparently any sold now will have a similar controller experience as the GT SE....I'm happy with the way mine is but perhaps it'll make others more happy :)
It would have been super frustrating for Uscooters though...can you imagine?
Can you keep me up to date as to what happens with you? Do they ship you a new controller or do you have to do an update...just curious :)
Cheers
I sent mine back and I am now waiting to hear from them what they think the problem was. But it seems clear that the initial batch of GT Sports has an issue with the controllers and I suspect the controller may also have affected my battery pack.
I was thinking about either getting an Inokim OX (for reliability) or else having them replace my GT Sport with a GT SE, but if the updated GT Sport controller fixes the issues with range, acceleration and braking, while retaining the 28 mph top speed and cruise control, then I might just have them send me a new GT Sport instead. And unfortunately, while I’ve been waiting to find out what to do with my GT Sport, Urbanmachina is now sold out of the version of the Inokim OX that I was considering. (If you have never reviewed the OX, I would suggest that you call Urbanmachina in Vancouver and see if they’d be willing to lend you one of their demo units for review.)
E-TWOW definitely put Uscooters in an awkward position. Given how incremental the changes have been in the GT over the past three years, it’s quite surprising that E-TWOW would have shipped the GT Sport with these issues. A single test ride should have made everything fairly obvious and it should have been easy to then update the controller firmware.
Over one month after the release of the GT Sport it appears that you are still the only TH-camr with a review posted! Can you *please* do a comparison ASAP between the GT Sport and the GT SE, doing a range test at top speed and comment on how quickly the top speed declines for each? Those of us using scooters for commuting typically ride at top speed to minimize travel time, so this info would be very useful. If the GT SE can maintain a top speed of say 23-25 mph for a lot longer than the GT Sport can maintain a top speed of 26-28 mph, then the GT SE might actually be the best choice for commuters. This is the kind of real world info that only TH-cam reviewers seem to be able to deliver.
Thanks for taking the time to review all of these scooters.
Thanks so much for sharing. I do hope you get a replacement soon :)
Hopefully the GT Sport (version 2) is exactly what you need.
It is odd that E-TWOW shipped without testing..very odd.
I haven't tried the OX yet but will reach out to UrbanMachina as they seem like awesome people :)
They are a fair distance from though (I'm on an island with a two hour ferry to get onto the mainland $280 to get there and back plus gas ...I need an EV :) ).
I totally understand the idea of comparing the two...but if there's a second version then it probably makes more sense for me to hold off.
If as you mentioned the new ones are fixed and basically updated GT SEs then I think the problem is probably fixed and thus a comparison mute.
Although, I really didn't have an issue with mine...I use it daily (no today it's raining) but several times a week and the GT SE is in the closet for now.
I'm actually moving away from just doing reviews (you may notice this in the coming weeks), so it may be awhile.
Although you have made me curious...about the range and top speeds...I need to get an app to figure out my speeds.
Thanks so much for sharing...Typically I have the throttle on max for when I'm riding the UScooter too.
I love the GT SE for commuting, I have over 200 miles on it now and it is going strong. The only thing I find strange is that if you’re going downhill the regen brakes don’t stop all the way. I need to apply the handbrake or foot brake to stop completely. Have you noticed the same?
@daa82 that's interesting that you say that...as you probably know with my reviews I'm not very technical...for me I'm trying to get across what it feels like to ride the scooter...but you're probably right...I think I use the regen about 90% of the time...and the mechanical brake only when I need it for a sudden stop or if I'm going downhill a bit too fast and want to ensure I'm going to be able to stop :)
@Coocola L3 this is what I miss from the Xiaomi m365. When you pressed the handbrake it would activate both the regen brake and the disc brake. On the GT SE I sometimes feel like in the moment it is hard to decide whether to use regen, handbrake or foot brake but I like your idea of developing muscle memory to always use handbrake + regen instead of using regen + sometimes adding handbrake if you feel the stopping power is too slow. Too much decision making
@Coocola L3 sounds wise...I'm an old dog and you want me to learn new tricks :)
wise points for any scooter. :)
@Coocola L3 wise indeed....I wonder how hard it is to replace the tire on a GT SE...also if one is easier than the other...front or back..I'll find out int he next year or so I suspect :)
Thanks for the review Tim. What are you initial thoughts on range when compared to the GT SE from last year? How was the acceleration at around 40%?
I haven't done a range test yet, but you're right I did see an odd thing happen at around 40%...the power dropped...odd
Thanks @@TimsElectric. Did that power drop happen with the GT SE?
Yes, it would be helpful to understand how this is better than last year's model.
it did not on my GT SE drop at all
@jimpmc my plan is to put another 100 miles on it and get the feel of it and then do a comparison...I'm away for a week so it'll be a minute :)
What's the real world range for this model at top speed? Really need a light and compact scooter for my wife who needs to ride it at least 2 miles to the train station and another mile to her work afterwards. Was considering the Unagi Model one but that real world range is abysmal for what you're paying. Also needed solid tires to avoid punctures as my area is prone to punctures galore. The looks and ease of folding this scooter is really appealing. Just wanted to know if you've tested it for real world mileage before I bite the bullet.
@MrHockaluger range is dependent on so many factors...but if you let me know her weight and city I can figure it out for you :)
She might be good with the UScooter Booster V...if she's light enough and it's a little bit lighter...but either should be fine...I'm 265lbs and would have no problem doing 6 Miles on it daily :) (The GT Sport)
Let me know :) happy to help.
@@TimsElectric She's less than 110 lbs and maybe 4'11" so the adjustable height of the scooter was also a plus. Reason I wanted this particular model is if I like it, too, I might get one myself. She only has one little hill to ride up to get to the train station so hopefully that 750 watt motor has enough oomph for her. My commute though is mostly flat but much farther at 5 miles each way which was why a longer range scooter is more intriguing for me.
Oh I see...in that case I'd buy the Uscooter GT Sport (use my discount code to save a few bucks :) ) and then if she lets you borrow it :) you can try it out and see if it'll work for you :)
It has no problem getting me around and I'm 265lbs so it'll be quick for her.....plus if you love it you can get her the Booster V...my wife has one and loves it...we have three Uscooters hanging on the wall of our apartment :) they're awesome and pretty much maintenance free :)
I’m 6’3, 240 lbs and I do about 6 miles daily in stop and go traffic in NYC and some high speed ~24mph when I get home in the suburbs with a few steep hills ~10 degrees straight up on the way back home. I can easily do 3 days of this without charging on the GT SE so that makes it about 18 miles at which point it is down to 20% battery power. I could probably do another day of this but I don’t risk it as it gets a bit sluggish on hills when battery remaining is less than 50% but am still able to get about 22mph on straightaways even at 20% battery left.
@@MrHockaluger the oomph here would probably be a bit overkill for her. She’s light as a feather compared to Tim and I. I think a 250 watt motor is all she needs. I had a Xiaomi Mi Lite which had a 300 watt motor - it was totally fine for me, achieved 15mph on straightaway with my weight but it couldn’t climb hills with my weight but with your wife’s weight and height I don’t see that being a problem. Maybe look at Swagger V1, that one weighs about 15lbs/8kg- 1/2 of the UScooter weight. Would be easy to carry around on a train for a smaller build person like your wife or perhaps look at a Glion Dolly with its cool folding mechanism. Another interesting choice is the Segway Air.
So do you have any recommendations for a solid dual motor escooter with an available saddle for under 2k? I just bought my first budget escooter (a Kugoo Kirin M4 Pro), and overall I'm extremely happy with it and having a blast. My problem is that I live in a very hilly area, and I'm a big guy too (235ish) so the 500 watt M4 Pro, while plenty fast in the flat, really struggles on some of the hills in the areas. There are roads I flat out won't go down because I know it will never make it back up. I prefer to ride seated with the option to stand for a bit to give my ass a rest, so I'm looking for a dual motor scooter for my next purchase. I just haven't seen any in my price range that have a saddle available.
sadly Dave, I don't know of any ...I actually haven't tried a saddle before...maybe the Emove Cruiser? as it has an adjustable handlebar.
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@@TimsElectric Thanks for the response Tim! Actually the Cruiser is at the top of my list right now, but I'm having second thoughts after watching it fail your hill test. I do love that one overall though, and I'm sure it would do better with a running start (and you've got 30 or so pounds on me lol), and I've heard nothing but good things about the scooter and Voromotors, so yea, currently at the top of the list. This will be next year's purchase anyway as I only just bought the M4 Pro a month ago and I AM very satisfied with it other than the hill problem, and truthfully there is no scooter in it's price range that would do better on the hills.
@@thevoiceofreason4104 Thanks I'll check that one out!
Edit: That has some impressive specs for the price. Didn't see a saddle kit offered for it though, and I'd like to have a slightly bigger battery. I think the Cruiser is still ahead.
I need to say, that the Emove Cruiser I had was the older less powerful model.
I wonder if it would make it up the hill of death (the new model
They even have a coupon code $50 off any new electric scooter from the EMOVE and Kaabo brands which is what the Cruiser is. Let me know if the coupon code works :)
Coupon Code: TimothyWestElectric
does it have cruise control?
Aparently it does...i just haven't turned it on :)
@@TimsElectric just ordered one ! 🤞🏼🤞🏼
would you recommend it over the GT SE?
I do ....smoother ...but will do a proper comparison
@@TimsElectric thank you!!
@@TimsElectric I can't wait for the comparison.
you're welcome Kylie :)
@Doug K thanks ...it'll be a minute as I'm taking a week off to go camping :)
But a comparison with a "should I upgrade from the GT SE to the GT Sport" but I need to put on about another 100 miles first :)
Wanted to let you know I just ordered one and I used your code, "TimsElectric"
Thanks for the $80 off!
I got my Hiboy S2 Pro back in September, it's been perfect, even survived a crash in Dec, not into a car luckily.
My throttle shit the bed about 3 weeks ago. I've still been able to use it by keeping the throttle right in that sweet spot avoiding the dreaded E2 Error. Today though, it was bad... Jerky and working intermittently.
I sent Hiboy an email when it first started and they got back to me surprisingly fast and sent out a new throttle, I just got it and it's half the size of the original, guess they're going cheap.
Trying to replace this should be quite an experience. th-cam.com/video/Z4nOv19uz6U/w-d-xo.html
Ever since the throttle busted, I've been looking to see if anything new came out and stumbled onto your channel.
I'd been considering the Fluidfreeride Mosquito but after reading some Reddit comments and such, I decided on the Uscooter GT Sport, basically the same scooter just different Batteries.
Looking forward to getting it and seeing how it is.
So awesome to hear :)
Hope you love it...I'm away camping so haven't been riding for a few days :)
Cheers
On the GT SE and original GT, you can unlock 33mph top speed using a code(I'll link below). With this top speed unlocked, is the GT sport still faster? Still worth it?
Code: 2020
Instructions: th-cam.com/video/3j5g4jspaIM/w-d-xo.html
WOW ...I didn't know this..it's quick but I didn't know it was that quick...with me on it (unlocked) it's plenty fast for me so I won't be unlocking it...but cool to see :) 20-25mph is plenty fast on such a small scooter without a full face shield :)
@@TimsElectric Well with my GT unlocked I only get about 27mph since I'm 200lbs. I'm looking to upgrade my GT to a GT Sport or just GT SE. Could you possibly try out the code on your GT and tell me how how it now compares to the GT Sport? I can't find anyone who could give me insight on this issue. This would help me make a decision on what to get.
Thanks for replying Tim, hope you're having a good day.