Steve, your looking great my brother. Must be one heck of a change of pace after giving wrecking yard cars a second life! You are the master of giving any car a story and in my opinion, a life!!! Bravo!!!~
My uncle had one of those , was dark green originally , he painted it Canary Yellow , he had the louvres on the rear window , and put a built Cleveland in it , with gear driven timing , ( Mexican blower ) it whined , headers , cherry bomb mufflers , rear tires stuck out past the wheel wells , posi traction , 4 inch tires on the front , traction bars , 4 speed , and it would lay down black strips for long way ! Good Times !
A cousin of mine had one of these new. Hers was yellow but very similarly equipped. She was/is known for keeping cars a long time, and was still daily driving it into the early/mid 80s. Thank you High Octane Classics and Mr Magnante for sharing this car and your knowledge ~ Chuck
@@billfioretti3013 That is good to know. My mother had a 69 and my dad always said it had a 351 Cleveland. I always suspected is actually had a 351 Windsor 4V. It still got up and went!
Yup, 1969 model year with the VIN for the win: 9 for 1969 model year, T for Metuchen, NJ assembly, 02 for Ford Mustang hardtop (not 03 as on the HOC website as 03 is for a convertible in 1969), H for 351 CID V8 with two barrel, and the rest is the production sequence. I think this may have had the Windsor engine originally as the "H" often denoted the Windsor 351 V8. An "M" for the 5th digit denotes a 351 with four barrel in 1969. So, I think this may have always been a Windsor equipped vehicle. The Metuchen, NJ plant was also called "Edison Assembly" and closed in 2004. I have passed by it several times. Assuming the original color, or targeting it, this would be code "J" Grabber Blue exterior paint.
Dear Steve You still show some physical signs caused mostly by long immobility and they will improve with time but your cerebral function, knowledge and humour are intact for the benefit of us all ! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I learn something every time you show us a car, even with those I taught I knew well ! Best wishes from Montreal !
H code means 351-2v, and M code would mean 351-4v, referring to ether a 2 barrel or 4 barrel carburetor. I think all the 69s were all Windsors and they switched to the Clevelands in 70. I think the Windsor/Cleveland wasn't reflected in the code H/M. They put in a Cleveland for the H (2v) or M(4v) after 70s, or around then.
Mr me auntie so glad to see you up and about doing what I know you love to do I wish you well look forward to seeing you add Barrett-Jackson cuz nobody does that better than you
Great car and review Steve. Good timing too, as I'm buying my late uncles 1969 Fastback/Sportroof to keep it in the family and of course, go to car shows. It isn't a Mach 1, but it does have the full Mach 1 asthetic with the wing, chin spoiler, hood scoop, interior, door cards, clock etc... At some point in its life, the original 302 came out in favor of the 351 Windsor. No rust or rot and in great running condition. It is finished in a matte black spray, but sometime in the future, I'd like to return it to the Lime Gold paint. But do I add the Mach 1 decals? Would anyone really know without looking at the vin.. 😅
I'm not trying to break balls, but a Cleveland didn't arrive in the Mustang or Ford line up until 1970. Of course, in Mustang, land debate exists, but in many ways, it has been proven that Cleveland didn't live in 69s.
That is good to know. My mother had a 69 and my dad always said it had a 351 Cleveland. I always suspected is actually had a 351 Windsor 4V. It still got up and went!
Steve, I really like your videos, but you got some things wrong on this car. H code in 1969 is a 2V 351 Windsor only. The 351 Cleveland did not appear until the 1970 model year. In 1970, the H code could be either the 2V 351 Windsor or 2V 351 Cleveland. The engine in that car appears to be a 289 or a 302 due to it's narrow width and deck height. A 1969 Mach 1 would have had at least a 2V 351 engine. Nothing smaller. So the 289 or 302 it has currently is incorrect. As you pointed out, a Mach 1 should have had the deluxe interior. It's a nice car, but it probably did not start off life as a Mach 1. Nothing wrong with tribute or clone cars ( I have a Boss 302 tribute) as long as they're not held out to be something they're not.
A 1969 Red Mach1 was my first car, got it from mom. That blue one has the wrong seats, the Mach1 seats had a red stripe front and rear, the back seat also folded down. These cars didn't handle the midwest winters and salt very good, front shock towers always rusted real good. Nice looking car but not much on the performance side with the 351.
teve welcome back. A question. A friend has a 1995 Camaro and wants to know if you can tell from the vin if it is a Z28. It was repainted and badges removed. Thank you. Reply
My dad has a 69 sportsroof with a white vinyl top. It is marked on the build sheet. From what I've found out. Black or white top was available. Don't have any info on if factory install or sent out to be done.
Completely different engines. The W was basically an longer stroke 289/302. The C was ment to be the new future "performance" engine and had high flowing heads with huge ports and valves. The W came first, I believe as an "quick fix", because Ford had an increasing need for an larger smallblock. But the 70s energy crises turned to car world upside down, meaning the W ended outliving the C.
Easiest way to tell them apart is at the upper radiator hose. Windsor hose goes into the intake manifold. Cleveland hose doesn’t. It goes down into the block. No coolant ran in the intake which is why they tend to run hot.
They are completely different designs, which only share the samebore and stroke. Other parts do not interchange the main difference between the Cleveland and Windsor is in the heads which the Cleveland uses larger canted valve heads where the Windsor valves are in line.
The car was definitely not a Mach 1 originally, besides no woodgrain the mach 1's had center consoles. I had 69 cobra jet Mach 1 and I really wish I did still
This is very clearly NOT a Mach 1, just a Sportsroof. Interior is not a deluxe with wood grain, wrong dash, clock, door panels, carpet, center console, and the biggest thing, no Sail panel Medallions. All Mach 1s came with medallions on each side of the fastback, which were attached onto studs welded on the panel. Also, H in 69 is a Windsor, it changed to be a Cleveland in 70, and then there after H was always a Cleveland. Although, in 70, H could mean a 351-2V Cleveland OR Windsor depending on some options and choices. M in 1970 was ONLY a Cleveland however.
I applaud not only your recovery but your seemingly endless automotive knowledge Steve. Bless you dear sir.
Thank you Steve!
Steve, your looking great my brother. Must be one heck of a change of pace after giving wrecking yard cars a second life! You are the master of giving any car a story and in my opinion, a life!!! Bravo!!!~
My favorite year of Mustang ! You're looking good Steve.
Well, done, Steve!
Very happy to see you up and about, hope you continue to heal up!
Good job Steve so glad to see you're getting better. We need you in the car world
Glad to see you back on here!!!!!!
Good to see you! I had a '69 Mach 1 with the 351 Windsor and 4-speed back in the seventies. That car was fun.
Now! That’s one beautiful Mach1👌🥰👍👉♥️love the color! Thanks for sharing video and history Steve!🙏
The first car I fell in love with when I was a kid and still do❤
My uncle had one of those , was dark green originally , he painted it Canary Yellow , he had the louvres on the rear window , and put a built Cleveland in it , with gear driven timing , ( Mexican blower ) it whined , headers , cherry bomb mufflers , rear tires stuck out past the wheel wells , posi traction , 4 inch tires on the front , traction bars , 4 speed , and it would lay down black strips for long way ! Good Times !
Great to see you back! MACH is a function of temperature, not altitude.
Great show Steve!
A cousin of mine had one of these new. Hers was yellow but very similarly equipped. She was/is known for keeping cars a long time, and was still daily driving it into the early/mid 80s. Thank you High Octane Classics and Mr Magnante for sharing this car and your knowledge ~ Chuck
'H' engine code is 351 2V, most likely a Windsor.
1969, No Clevelands available in any production model. Clevelands introduced in 1970 models.
@@billfioretti3013 That is good to know. My mother had a 69 and my dad always said it had a 351 Cleveland. I always suspected is actually had a 351 Windsor 4V. It still got up and went!
It feels good to see you are doing better Mr. M. BTW I love these Ponys. Maybe the best looking muscle car.?
Thank you Steve
Yup, 1969 model year with the VIN for the win: 9 for 1969 model year, T for Metuchen, NJ assembly, 02 for Ford Mustang hardtop (not 03 as on the HOC website as 03 is for a convertible in 1969), H for 351 CID V8 with two barrel, and the rest is the production sequence. I think this may have had the Windsor engine originally as the "H" often denoted the Windsor 351 V8. An "M" for the 5th digit denotes a 351 with four barrel in 1969. So, I think this may have always been a Windsor equipped vehicle. The Metuchen, NJ plant was also called "Edison Assembly" and closed in 2004. I have passed by it several times.
Assuming the original color, or targeting it, this would be code "J" Grabber Blue exterior paint.
Was Grabber Blue available in 1969?
@@stephenholland5930 Yes, code "J".
@@googleusergp Thanks
Good to see you back Steve. 💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸♥️
Great to see you back Steve! I have learned so much from you. Keep it up!
My dream car, definitely not in grabber blue though. So nice to see the interior without the woodgrain trim too.
You are the best Steve!
I learn something new every time I watch one of your vids, Steve. Thanks fer takin' us along, and best wishes for a continued and speedy recovery.
Dear Steve
You still show some physical signs caused mostly by long immobility and they will improve with time but your cerebral function, knowledge and humour are intact for the benefit of us all !
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I learn something every time you show us a car, even with those I taught I knew well !
Best wishes from Montreal !
Thanks Steve Great Presentation....
H code means 351-2v, and M code would mean 351-4v, referring to ether a 2 barrel or 4 barrel carburetor.
I think all the 69s were all Windsors and they switched to the Clevelands in 70. I think the Windsor/Cleveland wasn't reflected in the code H/M. They put in a Cleveland for the H (2v) or M(4v) after 70s, or around then.
Looking good Steve so happy you on the mend brother.
Mr me auntie so glad to see you up and about doing what I know you love to do I wish you well look forward to seeing you add Barrett-Jackson cuz nobody does that better than you
i like mustang mach 1. nice junkyard crawl.
Thanks Steve,be well.❤️😎
Glad to see you up and about.
Thanks for the wisdom Steve. Also great looking car
Thank u Steve !! I look forward to these !
👍🏼👍🏼 Thanks Steve!
Thanks Steve
The trim tag on the door will show 63C if it is a Mach 1. Engine appears to be a 302. Ref head surface distance to timing cover.
Right on both counts. Standard, non Deluxe interior... I doubt anyone would downgrade a real Mach 1 interior.
The 69 Mach 1 was always my favorite Mustang. It just looked cool sitting still. Never got to drive one though.
Good job, Steve😊
I don't know if you're ready, but we need you back on motor trend TV. Junk yard crawl and auctions
Great car and review Steve. Good timing too, as I'm buying my late uncles 1969 Fastback/Sportroof to keep it in the family and of course, go to car shows. It isn't a Mach 1, but it does have the full Mach 1 asthetic with the wing, chin spoiler, hood scoop, interior, door cards, clock etc... At some point in its life, the original 302 came out in favor of the 351 Windsor. No rust or rot and in great running condition. It is finished in a matte black spray, but sometime in the future, I'd like to return it to the Lime Gold paint. But do I add the Mach 1 decals? Would anyone really know without looking at the vin.. 😅
Another sweet ride!
Go Steve GO!
Best mustang there is , this is the man’s mustang.
I'm not trying to break balls, but a Cleveland didn't arrive in the Mustang or Ford line up until 1970. Of course, in Mustang, land debate exists, but in many ways, it has been proven that Cleveland didn't live in 69s.
That is good to know. My mother had a 69 and my dad always said it had a 351 Cleveland. I always suspected is actually had a 351 Windsor 4V. It still got up and went!
Beautiful
Steve. I hope Craig Jackson stepped up. You were the main personality on Barrett Jackson
Had a 1971 Cleveland
Ride your little mustang cowboy!
Fine specimen. Thanks for sharing )
A frog mine from high school had a grabber blue 69 Mach with a 351 Cleveland
I have the same slippers.
Yes, 351w 2V originally.
Steve, I really like your videos, but you got some things wrong on this car. H code in 1969 is a 2V 351 Windsor only. The 351 Cleveland did not appear until the 1970 model year. In 1970, the H code could be either the 2V 351 Windsor or 2V 351 Cleveland. The engine in that car appears to be a 289 or a 302 due to it's narrow width and deck height. A 1969 Mach 1 would have had at least a 2V 351 engine. Nothing smaller. So the 289 or 302 it has currently is incorrect. As you pointed out, a Mach 1 should have had the deluxe interior. It's a nice car, but it probably did not start off life as a Mach 1. Nothing wrong with tribute or clone cars ( I have a Boss 302 tribute) as long as they're not held out to be something they're not.
A 1969 Red Mach1 was my first car, got it from mom. That blue one has the wrong seats, the Mach1 seats had a red stripe front and rear, the back seat also folded down. These cars didn't handle the midwest winters and salt very good, front shock towers always rusted real good. Nice looking car but not much on the performance side with the 351.
Have a 69 GT 390 4 speed.. very nice n rare pony 🐎
teve welcome back. A question. A friend has a 1995 Camaro and wants to know if you can tell from the vin if it is a Z28. It was repainted and badges removed. Thank you.
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Nice shoes bro..
My dad has a 69 sportsroof with a white vinyl top. It is marked on the build sheet. From what I've found out. Black or white top was available. Don't have any info on if factory install or sent out to be done.
Sexy car. Thank you for the info.
The 351 automatics, as far as I know, where all FMX’s. I believe it was trans code X.
Can anyone tell me the difference between a 351 Cleveland and a 351 Windsor? Seems odd to manufacture 2 different 351's....
Completely different engines. The W was basically an longer stroke 289/302. The C was ment to be the new future "performance" engine and had high flowing heads with huge ports and valves. The W came first, I believe as an "quick fix", because Ford had an increasing need for an larger smallblock. But the 70s energy crises turned to car world upside down, meaning the W ended outliving the C.
Thanks. So my favorite Ford engine, the 1970 Boss 302, would be based on the Windsor or Cleveland block?
@@oliver-bc6rk Windsor block with Cleveland heads.
Easiest way to tell them apart is at the upper radiator hose. Windsor hose goes into the intake manifold. Cleveland hose doesn’t. It goes down into the block. No coolant ran in the intake which is why they tend to run hot.
Windsor engines have 6 valve cover bolts. Clevelands have 8.
Beautiful stang, love the blue, too bad it's not a stick.
Cleveland wasn't available in 69
Steve, you’re looking good and sounding good. Nice car but I don’t like the black wheels.
What's the difference between a Cleveland and Windsor?
They are completely different designs, which only share the samebore and stroke. Other parts do not interchange the main difference between the Cleveland and Windsor is in the heads which the Cleveland uses larger canted valve heads where the Windsor valves are in line.
The car was definitely not a Mach 1 originally, besides no woodgrain the mach 1's had center consoles. I had 69 cobra jet Mach 1 and I really wish I did still
Didn't all of the Mach 1s have the dashboard clock too?
The only mustang I truly love, although the cobra 2 is close
Steve is still a little short on his goal please continue to DONATE
It’s not “factory correct” but that’s fine by me, I like everything about it other than those rims/tires……
This is very clearly NOT a Mach 1, just a Sportsroof. Interior is not a deluxe with wood grain, wrong dash, clock, door panels, carpet, center console, and the biggest thing, no Sail panel Medallions. All Mach 1s came with medallions on each side of the fastback, which were attached onto studs welded on the panel. Also, H in 69 is a Windsor, it changed to be a Cleveland in 70, and then there after H was always a Cleveland. Although, in 70, H could mean a 351-2V Cleveland OR Windsor depending on some options and choices. M in 1970 was ONLY a Cleveland however.
YES, a 69 Mach 1 , my 69 Mach 1 is a 351W, 4 speed
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1969 Mustang H code engine 351 2v
Dealer listing does not indicate it is a tribute.
Let's forget the Mach-E.
Great looking specimen, except for the wheels on that one.
Don't you have any fast 60's Mustangs ever Steve ?:(
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pretty car...panel clearances are horrid.
This car was selling at the auction for $42000 and now they asking $59000 gtfoh
I think Mach 1 was just a trim package. Some of it I don't like, such as the fake hood scoop.
Shinoda surf board.
I’ll give you a thumbs up because you don’t have any stupid music behind you
Those doors don't line up very well.
I noticed that too, sounded awful rattley and loose when he closed it too.
@@minnesotatomcat I didn't stay to the end.
Those black wheels AIN'T working!!.. .
Automatic transmission hell NO
Don't like those wheels at all
Mr. B. Here ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍. 🍎🎓📐✏️📓. Professor Steve is on the move .
Thanks Steve