There are a whole bunch of non-Black and/or non-women folk coming here to negate my experience because they had a great time in Buenos Aires. What you're really doing is proving my point not invalidating it. As a Black woman, I was treated poorly. You living in a different body, were treated well. That doesn't prove that racism doesn't exist, it bolsters my claims that race was at the core of the treatment I received. If you clearly don't understand the insidious nature of racism, denying it's existence just makes you look...racist (and dumb).
I appreciate you exposing racism when you see it. Black folks need to tell other Black people of the places that disrespect and mean US harm. Keep doing the what you have been moved to do concerning your people. Again, I appreciate you Sista.👍
Argentina just (About three years ago) started acknowledging that there is an Afro-argentinian population with a census designation. They have always pushed the total European myth. Even here in the United States, Latinamerican immigrants push the non-racial Latin America lie.
El lobby negro atacando a Argentina, primero el Washington Post, después los franceses, ahora los youtubers. No importa, hemos resistido ataques peores.
Además, esta chica es de Estados Unidos y donde experimentó racismo es en Buenos Aires porque LOS UBER LE CANCELABAN LOS VIAJES Y EN LOS BARES NO LE SERVIAN PRIMERO A SU MESA. 😂
@@argentinisima Jajjajaj No sabe que los camareros de Argentina van enquilombados, y atienden cualquier mesa, no van en orden como en otros paises. Entonces estamos todos discriminados ahi si es por eso Jajajjaja. Y los viajes se los cancelaron seguro porque tenian algun cliente fijo, otro mas cerca, vaya a saber.. Pero bueno, ella prefiere parece el Apartheid de Estados Unidos, O a Francia y sus colonias africanas, con La ville de Bambule, que era un zoologico de gente negra que se suspendio hace solo 30 anos. Para mi es al reves, nosotros siempre nos alegramos de los extranjeros y los invadimos a preguntas por curiosidad y ganas de viajar.
Colorism is rampant is South America. The reality is that most places around the globe people of African decent are considered at the bottom / lower end of the social scale. People feel justified to disrespect people of African decent
Anti-blackness is the child of white supremacy and colonialism. It has been exported across the world. But it’s up to us as black people to not accept it and not buy into it. And not to spend our tourism dollars in countries that don’t treat us and those that look like us well.
It’s been said that Argentina is the closest version of Spain that you will find in Latin America. It’s where many Nazis escaped to at the end of WWII. The fact that racism is prevalent there shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Terence Williams, are you implying that Spain is racist??? Maybe you had better inform yourself better and visit the country before saying that. Before judging, do your homework.
@@user-hn8pc7mg8f Spain is as RACIST as it gets. All you have to do is Google video of how locals treat African futbol players, by throwing bananas on the field and yelling out monkey sounds!!!!!
My father told me that Argentina is the most racist place he had ever visited in his 80something year life. My father traveled the globe as a businessman from Africa. He was humiliated over and over again, he said they wouldn’t even honor the hotel reservations that he had paid for in advance via his travel agent. Don’t sugar coat, it is what it is. They are beyond racist! Period.
Its funny cos you are talking with your USA privilegies, but your family come from Africa, the most poor continent and you have the pride to talk about things from the 3th world, i hope you know were you are.
There seems to be a pattern here in the comments. Argentinians are basically saying, this happens to us, too, so how can this be racism? On the other hand, you and other people from the US who are also black are saying, trust us, this is racism. No one is disagreeing with you that your experiences were bad. But, to strongly imply it ´s racism, based on a short stay is unfair. Also, I have lived here for 12 years, am most definitely not white, but have never experienced racism. I ´ve had unpleasant experiences here and there, but racism had nothing to do with it. Also, my Argentinian husband has also experienced all those bad experiences that you did as well, not because of racism. Argentinians can be that way with each other. And they treated you no differently. Customer service, in general, is not that great here, especially in restaurants. And that guy on the street who didn ´t move out of his way for you, that happens to my husband and everyone here time and again. The thing to do for people like that is to simply tap them on the shoulder and say, permiso. They will move every time. The taxis, someone else already explained. They will often not turn off their lights when answering another call. And Ubers, if you are paying with credit, or someone else orders an Uber and is going further and will therefor pay more, they will go with the higher paying customer every time. Same for hotels, even on Airbnb. Hotels and home or apartment owners might cancel reservations here because they know they can charge more to a newer guest. No one is denying nor discounting your bad experiences. Especially for those of us who live here, we know how annoying it can be here sometimes. But, as an American, I feel we have been conditioned to automatically see racism everywhere, even when there is no call to. And this idea, is it racism or is it…is very American. Black and other non white friends from other countries, or even the US, have told me that they have not experienced racism here, either. Nor did I see it when I was with them. Again, I am not discounting nor denying your bad experiences. Nor even denying that racism might exist here as well. Just pointing out that to paint an entire country, an entire people a certain negative way based on a short trip is unfair.
@@abcc917Not rude at all! Just accurate!! 😂 Not sure why aren't understanding...it was HER experience! This person is writing a book to attempt to prove what she experienced was otherwise! So annoying!!
This person wrote "no one is discounting your bad experiences", sharing their own personal experience in the same place, which happens to be different. Both are equally valid as subjective perceptions. Yeah, people disagreeing can be extremely annoying 🤷. But this is a public space for people to share their ideas and we can write a whole book of we want to.Don't want to read it? Ok. Don't like them because they don't agree with you? Fine. But there's a difference between the first answer and a short "Well, that's your experience, not mine". You can communicate the same idea and be polite.
I'm sorry this happened to you. What's frustrating being black is not knowing for sure whether you're being dissed because of race - although we strongly suspect it's because of race. As they say in French: "You can smell your own odor in their eyes." That's how you must have felt.
I'm sorry about your experience. Customer service is usually bad in Buenos Aires. I'm Argentinian and actually get surprised when I get good customer service :S
@@mickael4044 what a great saying; it’s so true. I know you gave us the English translated meaning, but can you please write that out in French? I would love to memorize that saying and impressing people when it’s applicable.
As a (non-white) argentinian, I can confirm the costumer service IS shitty for everyone, specially compared to some places like the US, a country that is way more racist but still has great costumer service.
I am sorry you felt that way. While I respect your views, I must say that I disagree that Buenos Aires is a racist city. There are racists of course but as a black person living here for over 8 years, I can say they are welcoming people. I've had strangers defended me against their own many times or even offer help. Many times I even treated better than Argentines. I also know many black persons here and the incidents of discrimination are rare. Again, I'm sorry you had that experience but I would definitely recommend Buenos Aires to Black people. That is why I started sharing on youtube about the culture. A few bad experiences in a week can turn you off but living in the country helps you to really understand the culture. I agree with the dog poop, it's nasty. Lol The economy is crappy but Argentines still manage to live comfortable lives. They are simple and happy people.😍
This is not just argentina. Its all over latin america. They recording us and making side comments. Complain and talk about dating, and women and men. Its were a zoo for these people. They make same kind of content and complaints in mexico. These americans/ gringos are extremely conceited and perverted.
I had Ubers cancel on me too in BA but I was told it was because I was not paying cash. Once I switched my Uber to paying cash, I did not have that problem anymore.
Yes, that's the point. If you pay with a credit card or debit card, the driver gets paid with a lag of 30 or 60 days, so they lose because of inflation, and also if you paid in US dollars, the government steals the gap between official and unofficial rate. That's not racism, that is people trying to protect their money from a crashed economy and a corrupt government.
If you have to ask “if it’ is racism “ then you know it’s racism!! Dont give them the benefit of human doubt since they are not considering you as a human being.
@@GUITARTIME2024 you grow up and stop being racist since youre so offended by this original comment. How you on here watching a Black woman share her experience and have the nerve to be offended when we call it what it is: RACISM.
@@girlanonymous i think that you are biased by only one opinion you can watch "Ace Live" chsnnel He is traveling throu argentina and having a great time here
My boyfriend is from Buenos Aires. He’s so kind and gentle. I’m black and he’s white, we travel, we help with each other’s businesses intellectually or financially. It’s been two years, we’ve traveled everywhere but to one another’s country. He really wants me there but I’ve always been reluctant.
don't let this video scare you. We honestly don't care about race. Her experiences were unfortunate, but if you read the comments, most residents and Argentines are saying this is something that could have easily happened to any of us. I'm sure your partner can conffirn. Do get ready to be talked to and asked about your country, being insisted on trying some mate even if you hate it and people touching you a lot, we tend to deliver hugs to people we barely know, kiss everyone and are extremilly touchy without realizing that is not so common in most countries. But I'm sure you had already noticed. Other than that, getting skin care and hair products might be difficult to find, especially outside of the capital (but I'm just gessing). Long story short, we don't care about race, we are too busy complaining about the economy and judging each other based on our political views and prefered football team.
My first time in Buenas Aires a decade ago was a dream!!! The dollar was super strong, the service was amazing and the food was delicious. What happened?!? When Shida and I went into the restaurant only to never be served once we were seated… I was like wait…people don’t want these good coins?!? Ugh! It definitely felt different and the currency was not that complex back then. See you in Mexico, friend!
@Jessica Ekong I had the same experience you had on your 1st visit. I've not been there in about 20 years, but back then people were very nice to me, although, a few did stare at me
It's very common in Buenos Aires not to be served in a restaurant. More if you go to a touristy place at rush hour. As an Argentine I have experienced that my whole life. I'm not saying my country is not racist, which is, but if you are American the experience of going to a shop or to a restaurant is very different to that of the States because employees are not trained to be nice and condescending to customers.
@Rosé ella dijo que habían más mesoneros en el restaurante que clientes. En ese caso no encuentro ninguna razón posible para que no las atendieran durante 45 minutes.
Thats something cultural. There is no one at the entrance (like other countries i visited), when you sit down you only need to make a signal and the waiter will come. Then the workers of the establishment they will not molest you (interrupt you while you are eating or talking), when you finished, they still will not approach you until you wish to leave that place and at this moment they would give you the bill. I as an argentinian i feel that in some foreign food places the people were to pushy and I feel a little upset that the waitress gave me the bill one minute after i finished when i still i was having a good time with my partner. There are different codes.
Racism in Argentina is against people with indigenous traits, not against people with African traits, the racism of Argentina, and Latin America in general, is a mix between classism and racism, it is very different from the racism of Europe and USA. Argentines have nothing against black people because they know nothing about black people, it is a country where practicing black people do not exist and therefore they have never created positive or negative prejudices against them. What happens is that Americans believe that they are the center of the world, and in this case, they analyze the racism of other countries thinking that the racism of all the countries in the world is the same as the racism of the United States.
@@thefootballpunnedit maybe not England but France is much more racist towards people with brown or black skin and they are not integrated at all into French culture. Continental Europe is different from the UK.
@@thefootballpunnedit also for non Anglo people, the UK and the US are very much the same culturally, politically, etc. Kind of imperialistic. The difference being USA is bigger
I am Argentine. Everything negative that you pointed out is real, I have experienced it in Buenos Aires. People don't pick up dog poop, behavior on the street is rude, service in many places is very bad, getting a taxi is very difficult. I don't think it's discrimination, it's just disastrous quality of service. To have a good experience it is necessary to know the recommended places and only visit the tourist area.a.
I don’t know why this video popped up in my feed when YT algorithm should know that I don’t like videos of people (be it black, brown, white) who expects same treatment everywhere as in their hometown
madrid, Spain. i was physically and verbally assaulted by men multiple times because they assume all black women are prostitutes. Otherwise i was treated well for 3 months, (no issues w taxis or service) but i will not be going back. and not that it matters but i was working there at US embassy so i was always dressed professionally during these encounters. Also i was born there smh
India..and some Asian countries the racism of non-black people of colour is usually unrestrained... because unlike whites.. they haven't formally oppressed blacks...so they can easily pretend it's how they are or their 'culture'.
@@RA-qb4gl Asia was pretty cool. I lived in Korea for over 5 years and had maybe three incidents in all that time where I had to think, "Ok, that's probably racist." And by racist, I mean 'anti-black' so I'd say they're about on par with the US. lol I visited almost every country in Asia and didn't feel uncomfortable except with some of the undercover police in Beijing because they're scary to everyone all the time. :/
Australia. Racists everywhere. Don't serve you in restaurants, refuse help in stores, give you other hotel rooms then the ones you booked (like the bad ones/noisy ones) & paid exuberant prices for, cause everything in Australia is hella expensive. Follow you in supermarkets. And on top of that are very much so, brash about it to your face. Horrible experience, was happy to after 3weeks that my time there was done.
This is so interesting to me! I had a very similar experience in Santiago,Chile. After being there for 4 months I knew I would never go back. I was the only black woman within my study abroad program (which is fine). However I remember being told by the wife of my host family that I was not allowed to travel with them to certain places because I was too dark. It was an experience amongst many that I will never forget!!! After that moment I started asking questions about their history and doing my own research. It blows my mind that most Chileans believe they are white🤦🏽♀️. Lord have mercy. Anyway, I’m glad you shared your story! It’s important.
we are not chilenians, we are a diferent culture, in argentina we are not anglophilus like the mainstream in chile. th-cam.com/video/o49s8SDrtVc/w-d-xo.html
@@Rockman975 peroncho,sabes que en chile se creen blancos a pesar de que todos son indigenas!!!y si en chile son anglofilos pero en argentina somos francofilos!!!el argentino quiere imitar al frances por lo menos los argentinos que no son planeros!!!
I went to BsAs in 2010 and I can attest that even back then, there was so much dog poop EVERYWHERE. One of my friends even slipped and fell on some. I went with a couple of friends: a Chinese-American, a Mexican American, and a Jewish friend-I'm a black male. Maybe I was insulated from any racism? I did go out on the town by myself one night, and everyone kept asking if I was from Brazil. I also noticed I was the ONLY black person everywhere I went. One bar did deny me entry but my Spanish is non-existent so I couldn't understand the reason why. I actually did make a friend there from a pub crawl I went to and we are friends to this day; I even visited him since he moved to Berlin. He said that there is not much interaction with blacks in Argentina-that Argentines are very snooty and think they are the "creme de la creme" of South America. They consider Brazil as totally underclass, and that extends to how they feel about black folks as well. There is very little black immigration into Argentina from Brazil. Like I said, I didn't really have any "bad" experiences when I went out solo, maybe a lot of people being indifferent to my presence. I felt the same way when I went to Prague. Because I wasn't engaged by people in both of those places like I have been virtually everywhere else, I also wouldn't recommend BsAs OR Prague.
I just can't believe this! It is really sad. I have been doing some research for my forthcoming slow travel across Latin America. Indeed, cost of living is cheap in Argentina. But with your video account, I am dropping off Argentina from my list of countries to visit in Latin America.
@@synolve Yep! And because the economy has been going south for years, a lot of the city is in decay-the infrascruture was not kept up in most places. Lots of cracked and uneven sidewalks. That are covered in poo. I'm really surprised we all didn't fall at some point.
I’ve never been to Argentina but the irony for me is people are comparing it to Spain in the comments and guess what’s the most racist country I’ve visited: Spain.
I just got back to Canada from Barcelona where I was very obviously a tourist. I’ve never experienced that intense energy before. It was clear distain and contempt or sometimes I was just treated as completely invisible. The restaurant service and sidewalks were the same for me as you describe. I wasn’t sure if it was a difference in cultural standards or just them hating tourists/Americans. Crazy experience but I guess that’s part of the adventure of travel. I wouldn’t go back there either. ❤️
We went to Brussels (All Blacks except one of our sound guys from Church Arnold a White Romanian-). We had gone on a church plant mission from England. Our pastor had been there before. It was a group of seven and we ordered food costing over 200 euros. The bread rolls we had were called and the food sub-standard. Normally in England if a particular dish isn't up to standard, you can have the restaurant cook the same thing again. Not so in Brussels. Over there, if you ain't happy you can leave but you still have to pay for the sub standard meal. The whole thing was bizarre and not a great advert for Belgium. At least you yourself are white so am not sure what the crack was there but definitely that restaurant for me was a shocker
Thank you for your video. I’m so sorry that you were not treated well. I went to Buenos Aires in 2007 and had the best time ever, a far more enjoyable experience than in Brazil. I am planning an Antarctica adventure that will likely have me transit through Argentina or Chile so Thanks for the heads up
I watched your videos about Mexico before traveling here as a solo black female traveler, and I seriously love LOVE it here! So, at this point, I basically trust you with my life! If you say Buenos Aires isn't good for black travelers, I won't be going!! sending big hugs!
Por ejemplo en Rosario, mi ciudad, al no ser turistica,os pocos que hay son algunos de refugiados Haitianos o africanos...tambien algunos estidiante mayoremente de brazil .. En los ultimos años exiliados Venezuela....y tpdo se integran pq todos.somow hijow o niestpw de inmigantes
@@chocoflan6672 The F are you talking about. Why must there always be a delusional troll Lurking in the comments section somewhere 🙄 Go back to your bunker eating Cheetos and drinking coke. Some of us yes, care about humankind and it's history enough to add to the discussion in meaningful ways.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Buenos Aires has been on my travel list for a while but now 🥴🥴 I had a similar experience with wondering if I was experiencing racism, during my short and unpleasant stay in Poland. I had no issues in Krzyżowa, a beautiful small village. But when I got to Wrocław… I honestly said I’m NEVER coming back to Poland. Myself and my friend (who is also black) were on a Europe tour with other students while in college. We were the only two black people on that trip. We were walking around the Wrocław downtown square and kept getting stared at. At first we didn’t care because it’s (central) Europe, we don’t expect there to be a lot of black people. Then the stares became uncomfortable and as we stood talking to each other a tall man in a black leather jacket (not a skinhead at first glance but who knows) walked from the other side of the square with this angry look on his face, stood right in front of us and shouted something at us in Polish. We didn’t know what he said so we just assumed either he was crazy or a racist. No one did or said anything to help or explain to us what he said so we just walked away. Then we went to a fast food restaurant to get something to eat and we stood in line for an unusually long time. The server/cashier even started attending to customers behind us. We were so confused. It wasn’t until I assertively said, “Excuse me, can we please order? We’ve been standing her for a while”. The server pretty much rolled her eyes and reluctantly attended to us. The whole thing was bizarre and uncomfortable to say the least for only myself and my friend. While everyone else went out that night she and I stayed in our hotel room because we didn’t feel welcome in that city. Because we couldn’t speak or understand Polish, we weren’t sure what was being said but the vibes (if I can put it that way) were way off. I told myself I wouldn’t come back to Poland which is a shame because I have met lovely Polish people outside of Poland. 🤷🏽♀️ I also don’t want to make a judgement about a whole country based on my experience in one city but it’s hard not to lol
That sucks. All the Polish people I've met in the US have been super cool. Two of them are married to black people. I honestly might ask one of them about it. :/
@@miragemirage3670 Very interesting comment. It's quite important to do a little researching on the places you plan to visit. The past is just as valid as the present.
I'm from Buenos Aires (the province not the city), and yeah people from the city are rude to the point that parisians seemed nice to me. That thing where they don't move drives me insane, is so common. The taxi thing, taxi drivers are shady af, I wouldn't put racism past them. What you gather about the economy is 1000% correct. We have more than 6 different exchange rates, and it's a nightmare for turists and exports. Our peso loses value every single day, the inflation rate is of 5% monthly so every time we go buy something it's more expensive, and there are no jobs, so yeah there isn't much hope for the peso. I hope you had a good time in Antartica and perhaps consider visiting other parts of our country that reflect better on us (if you haven't already).
No te gastes, dudo que haya estado en Argentina siquiera. Es parte de una operación de no se quién para instalar que Argentina es racista. Tiene muy mala leche y muchos youtubers de este color de piel salieron casi a la vez a decir lo mismo, casi cuando salió la nota de que en la selección argentina había demasiados blancos, te acordas? Sabemos que la gente de BA son una cagada, pero no por racismo.
I don´t wanna negate your experience but after listening to you I have the impression that your bad time here had more to do with being a privileged american that being a black person. Some of the things you mention (dog poop, bad service, taxis that don´t stop) are at this point "First World problems" for us. On the other hand you would never understand how shockingly it is for some of us to being called racist by people from the same country that backed up our racist oligarchies, military dictatorships, trained them in torture, murdered left activists and screwed up everything they could until this day. And If you are surprised by the value of our currency and you really want to do some research you will eventually find out that the corrupt goverment that permitted the deprecetion of our money was financed by some factions on Wall St. On the other hand I lived in New York for a brief time and I can assure the US is 100% more racist. Sorry for this political rant but at this point americans calling our country racist should know our common history to understand who´s been the opressor here. I apologize if this comment seems a little bit rude but I think you americans have a huge responsability when it comes to pointing fingers without knowing how your foreign policy actually works and how the whole Latinamerican region would be a lot better place without decades of US intervention. Have a nice time. You seem a cheerfull beautyfull lady. Peace!
Thanks so much, sis. I lived in Asia for nearly 7 years, and Europe the last 6 years. I’ve recently come back to the States and am making travel plans for the “reopening” of the globe. I’m looking forward to exploring central and South America, but you just saved me time and money! I’m over wasting money where folks don’t want me. BANK! Btw, when Erdogan is gone, I recommend everyone to visit Istanbul. It’s a disaster right now, but 7 years ago I would have put it up against any city in the world! Now I’ve gotta check out Mexico City! You’ve got me stoked!🤙🏿
During ww2 the president of Argentina made a comment that sympathized with Nazis. Germany were welcomed to Argentina after that comment. Germany promised economic deals after the war. Many Germany escaped to South America. If you look at the history they eventually kicked out people of African decent out or Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. Couple that with what someone mentioned about the idealism of superiority of Argentinians I would feel uncomfortable visiting there for long.
Peron is the president you mention, Evita's husband. He was friends with Franco (Spanish dictator, Hitler's friend) and yes Nazi simpatizer. Also, a pedophil, he had a romantic relationship with a 14 year old. But the Afroargentinians were not kicked out, they were killed. When the Independance war broke most of the black enslaved men were offered comissions to fight in the war. They were foot soldiers and sent to the front lines, most were killed there. In all the following wars with Spain, Brazil, and Paraguay similar strategies were used, literally decimating the population. Another problem was the yellow fever epidemics, that killed black people disproportionately.
Wow! I studied abroad in Argentina in 2016 and it was 26 pesos to the dollar I believe back then. I cant believe how much the value of the peso has dropped in that time. I only drove in an uber once back then because there was this big push back from the taxi’s and uber drivers were being harassed so im assuming that has changed with time. I actually had one good experience with a taxi driver, left my phone in the car and she brought it back to me the next day to university 😅. Super lucky, her son and I are still friends on facebook to this day. used to see people get picked pocketed and robbed a lot, so im assuming with the economy it is even worse now. I feel you on the dog pop 😂. My roommate was Argentine but she wasn't from Buenos Aires and we use to say all the time the city is crazy, I have stories for days. Mendoza and Córdoba are so much more chill
no other country in the world acceptedmore nazis that the USA. they develop NASA, look for operation paperclip. Nazi escape all over latin america, also chile, paraguay and brazil.
No other country in the world received more nazis than the US…and by far. Look for operation paperclip. Also we never ever had something like KKK, separates spaces for diffeerent colours, or slavery in major scale as the US.
no existe el racismo acá, son todas construcciones suyas, de cosas que sufren en yankilandia. Hay muchas cosas que dice ésta mujer que son por ignorante, porque probablemente haya habido situaciones que ella y su misma predisposición para ser discriminada, haya hecho que quien la atendía la tome como una persona engreída o cosas así. Lo de los taxis, es porque hay cambios de horarios o ya tomaron viajes por radio, hay mil cosas para explicar por un chat de youtube. SU ignorancia hace que malinterpreten casi todo lo que dijo ésta mujer.
Traveling for Black women verse Black men is a different experience! I personally know a few black men from Atlanta Georgia who live in Argentina and they absolutely love it!!)
Hmmm, they be thinking with their lower extremities and just going nuts for the light skin latina so it is not shocking they would disregard any social slights.
I was born in Buenos Aires, is the worst part of Argentina, unfortunately is the only city foreigners ear about overseas but Argentina is a really large country with a lot of beautiful other places to know. As an aborigin descendant I must say you can feel the racism, not directly but in the way most argentinians perceive themselves as europeans, they not even consider themselves latinamerican. I know there was a lot of eurpean immigration centuries ago but they systematically denies the other ethnicities that are part of Argentina too.
We know that ignorance is bliss no matter where you go and everyone's experience when traveling is different but what you and your friends experienced is indeed unfortunate and unacceptable.
Yes but that doesn't give her the right to say that Buenos Aires is disgusting and anyone should live here, she even said that people leaving dog poop is not caring about your neighbors... Qué mierda?
It hurts a lot how we are dehumanized by everyone and how they talk about us like we are ALL awful racist people, actually, people is pretty xenophobic with Argentina and it's frustrating how the recall the past in our faces, is not our fault to have that awful people as our ancestors and even if we wanted we can't change that, it's in our blood, just like black people.
@@Sketchy000but we’re not only talking about the past we’re talking about the discrimination still going on now it’s compelty valid to be angry about a country that actively hates on you
That thing with the money is insane. I recently visited Belize and it was very convenient to use the US dollar. The exchange was stable at a 2 to 1 rate everywhere so I didn't have to do mental gymnastics no matter how I paid.
Guys, Ubers always cancel in South America. Taxi’s always stopped for me but sometimes refused to go to the international airport during rush hour. I’m a 6’9” black ex 🏈 player. All these problems I can’t say that I ever encountered and I’ve stayed there for 3 months in 2022. Same in 2019. The economy is very destabilized. People lack hope. As a person that lives in Rio de Janeiro, I’ve seen a difference in the culture of the Carioca between 2010 and 2022. Many things to consider and learn about a culture when you’re an “outsider”. Everything isn’t racism peeps
And yet somethings are. Being dismissive of other people’s experiences online doesn’t make you different or special. It makes you a jerk. “It didn’t happen to me” is different from “it didn’t happen to you” Take that with you and try to move more gracefully into your future.
You need professional help. So your experience is valid but his isn't. I perfectly know your kind. You're a black Karen. Same shit of a regular Karen. But I understand, I know the US and that is deeply truly the most racist a genocidal country in the world, the systematic killing of black people by police there could easily be considered genocide. I met people that said Argentina is racist cause people wanted to take pictures with them, they are so full of poo that instead of understanding that it's curiosity and flattery they think that's racism. It's mind-blowing. In US even the word black is considered racist. When we really love someone in Argentina we call them negro or negrito. I'm called like that by my closest friends even if I'm Caucasian. But I understand your reasons and I'm sad for you, I'd probably feel and think like you if I'd be black American, you have racerelated post traumatic stress. Like ex soldiers that have panic attack with fireworks. You're confusing real munition with fireworks.
We were planning a lengthy trip to Buenos Aires, but there were things I read that turned me off. I am not African American but your video sealed it for me. We are planning to go to Panama City Panama instead.
You should go and visit yourself. There is a popular AA blogger who hated Portugal - said she was mistaken for a hooker and all sort of things. We visited the year before the pandemic and had the best time - so much so we’re thinking of buying a place there.
@@LAMaman this, don't let race drifters dictate the places where you will be travelling. On top of that, don't focus on race, because then everything will be racist no matter where in the world you'll visit. Oh and remember you are visiting another country with a different culture and customes.
I’ve always had Argentina on my list until this video! It is now scratched out. There’s enough racism in the USA. Don’t want to go there and endure it to that level. Thanks for sharing. You are fantastic. You are an inspiration!
Me and my wife (both black) shared a table in the Moulin Rouge in Paris with an Argentinian couple. A man from Argentina asked us to take his picture at Versailles. They spoke English and were very friendly and inquisitive. Thanks for the heads up. We are retirees and have no time for racist countries.
Hi Shida. It's great to travel freely as Black women but it's important to understand history. Confederate generals and soldiers moved their families to South America after the American civil war, and 100 years later Nazi Germans were on code and moved there too, knowing the stage had been set. Central America, especially Costa Rica fought back against a white supremacy movement called "the Golden Circle" and rejected the racist roaches who scurried further south. They're now generations deep as cultural influencers. It shouldn't deter black women from traveling but history is more present than we often think. Stay safe and continue to enjoy life in spite of them!
Thank you for explaining about confederate going to south America. I didn't know. Argentinians don't consider themselves South Americans, but more like white Europeans in Argentina. Brazil also tend to separate the dark skin from their small circle of European descendants. ( I have friends in both countries, but it's true. ).
@@meggtokyodelicious Why do you say Argentines don't consider themselves as part of South America? They are mostly white Europeans, though there are a lot of Italian descent with darker hair, eyes, and skin that would be considered ethnic white in the U.S., instead of just white. I think the lack of racial diversity, in addition to the racist immigrants from Nazi Germany, have contributed to the current culture.
Argentinians are basically italians and Italians are notoriously racist horrible people. Somalia and Ethiopia are great places to visit. Very friendly countries and people.
Argentina people consider themselves the Italians of South America. I remember the president of Argentina visited Mexico at one point and said Mexico was filled with “Indios” and offensive term referring to Native Americans. Argentina also has Little towns with Nazis that fled over there post war world 2 some say even hitler is down there alive and well
I went to South America in 2019. 5 countries, 7 cities in 10 days. I was looking forward to going to Buenos Aires because of the cycling culture but the people in Buenos Aires and Montevideo, Uruguay WERE rude and it is always a question of “is this racism or is this person rude?” Nope.
@blancan.8524 🗣🗣 BACK OFF!! SHE CAN WALK WHEREVER SHE WANTS!! YOU OWN NOTHING!! ESPECIALLY NOT THAT COUNTRY! THIS WORLD IS GOD'S, AND YOU'RE A GUEST IN IT! SHAME ON YOU!!! WHY DON'T YOU GO WALK IN AFRICA AND KEEP YOUR SASSY, NONSENSICAL OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!!! IDIOTA!! 😤 **@Roshida, Please don't apologize for your experience! You did nothing wrong!! What you experienced was shameful! And definitely uncalled for! I don't know who those folks think they are, as if they're better than anyone! Definitely not the case! Their nasty behavior will catch up with them in due time, and they will see the error of their ways! Glad your doing so well with all your endeavors! Stay blessed good sista!! ✊🏾
Exactly, I have heard from Mexicans (nice people) that after living in Buenos Aires, when they return to Mexico, their acquaintances see them as more aggressive but they only say "now I am more direct and I don't have to lower my head." It's another culture... Living in Buenos Aires makes you "Rambo"
No sé que es grosero para UD. Pero la gente de las grandes ciudades, como NY o Madrid también las acusan de lo mismo, debe ser que la gente está más apurada y vive más estresada .
Hi Shida! I'm from Buenos Aires. I was really sad while listening to your experience here, and I ask you for forgiveness for that. I know people now is not as polite as they used to be, and well, the economy is a dissaster... This government is distroying it, we're all suffering the situation. But let me say that there are a lot of good people too. If you give us another chance, I highly recommend visiting Córdoba o Mendoza. There, things are quite different from here. I hope my opinion is useful for you. Kisses and see you soon!
los neoliberales de mierda que votaste vos arruinaron nuestra economía endeudándonos y fugando 84 mil millones de dolares, informate bien y deja de hablar pavadas, seguro que sos de los que andan repitiendo que en el gobierno con el que teníamos un poco mas de estabilidad económica se robaron un PBI, ni siuquieras sabes que significa, como se mide ni quien maneja todo el PBI de Argentina
Imagine taxi drivers and ubers from a country with a bankrupt, collapsed economy and a widespread poverty issue refusing service to potentially wealthy customers just because of their skin colour. Absolute rubbish. I've noticed this strange new trend - specifically Black-American tourists going to certain countries with a "I've been told this is a racist place" mentality and not one single grain of interest in understanding the local mannerisms and demeanor. Prejudice comes both ways, never forget that.
Exactly! Apparently the actual reason and problem is the payment method. I was told that if your payment method in Uber is credit card, they can't pick it up. People need to change their method to CASH and see how different the situation is... Is a sad reality of a completely economically-bankrupt country where the infrastructure is not credit card friendly. Nothing to do with the color of their skin, but they want it to be it so hard...
@@emmamalarkey2950 You do know what commas and perios are, correct? Because I wouldn't talk about "sounding dumb" with the way you talk. ANYWAY.... NO. I didn't deny that there's racism in Argentina. Of course there is, as there is racism in the entire world. Every country has racism. Argentina was in the news in the States less than a year ago, due to a Neo-Nazi chapter going public in support of Kyle Rittenhouse (the little f**ker, murderer, highly racist teenager from right here, the good ol' U of S). What I am saying is that this effort to try to single out Argentina as a "specially racist" place (they make me laugh with the fucking outrage over a 40 min wait, while in the USA black people are getting MURDERED at traffic stops, but I digress), above anywhere else in the whole American continent is at best absurd. This lady (the one in the video) saying that she had a great time the first Argentina visit, and then a not so great time the second visit and the reasons given are barely mild annoyances that happen to EVERYONE (tourists, blacks, whites and locals alike). Then in the comments saying that, for example, she visited Milan, Italy and had a great time, when Italy is one of the most racist places ever, SPECIALLY the north of Italy. Her video is her talking to the camera the whole time, while other black content creators are literally FILMING the streets and the interactions, everything and you rarely see anything other than curiosity and excitement from the people. I've seen dozens of them having all positive experiences, with some small exceptions here and there, but you know what has never happened in Argentina? A black person getting killed for being black. Something that happens here in USA DAILY. So sure, go ahead and cry a river about how racist Argentina is, while thousands of black people go there and enjoy their time without any issues, and also while in the States they are literally discrimated, harrassed and killed for no reason... But... This lady had a hard time taking a taxi!! OH THE HORROR... And we literally explained why that could potentially be, as PLENTY of white people also has had troubles stopping a taxi or getting an Uber... If it happens to everyone, then is rarely a race issue, it's a different problem altogether.
Thanks for the heads-up! I can't envision sliding and hop-scotching from one side of the city to the next. It isn't me. I will not visit people who choose to live with excrement at their feet. Do they burn their shoes when they get home? Wait! Can't they see the revenue stream from fining people not picking up their dog's feces? Regarding racism, my sense of racism is intuitive, like a learned survival skill. I take it for what I sense it to be until proven otherwise (which is very rare). Now, back to my search for videos on crispy fried pork chop recipes... Be well.
Thank you Shida for sharing. I have always wanted to visit Argentina as a big fan of Diego Maradona growing up, but I guess, I will wait few more years. Hopefully their economy and attitude will improve by then
Wow… that’s too bad! My husband and I went to Buenos Aires, Mendoza, Iguazu Falls and it was fantastic. I didn’t find anymore dog poop than in Paris - but they do have a lot of stray dogs, so it may not necessarily dog owners. Did you not notice the dog poop the first time? Not sure why you would return if this is a problem. It’s also a country not used to mass tourism. IDK… didn’t have a problem.
@@franhewling yeah, and i reaaally love NY...but the smell of pis was everywhere, even on the 5th ave (place for the richs, we just pass by jaja), and the rats were everywhere. Its true about poop dog on the sidewalk, but i cant believe is one of the reason to not come back jaja.
hi, i loved this video, and yes you,re right,as a black person living in buenos airesi said it's terrible, racism all the time, people saw me and start to run after me with chains, and stick to hit me, all the time. I went to hospital, when doctors realized i was black, they live me alone there bleeding, for a week, without food or bathroom. Two times a week, police put me in jail, just because i'm black, is terrible, please do not visit buenos aires again, now i'm in a conteiner locked i just a black person, and people here is racist. Probably deport me to some african country, i'm argentinian, but it does'nt matter, because i'm black.....
I work in a relatively big company (in Belgium) with a lot of expats from all around the world thus it is very interesting and exciting to work in such environment. But.... one of my colleagues is from Argentina....I had a lot of problems with him due to his arrogance and overly inflated ego and to stop those problems I had to threaten to start a legal action against my employer because at the end of the day the employer is responsible for the behavior of the employees he has hired (at least according to Belgian' laws). It worked very well (he got his blame because his behavior was obviously inappropriate). Thus I understand your point perfectly. Concerning racism, I think it is one of the many facets of stupidity and probably the most disgusting one. In fact a racist is a stupid person and a stupid person is usually racist as well.
What a good partner you are. Instead of talking to him to make him see reason, you ratted him out to the boss to get him fired. Surely now he's sleeping inside a cardboard box.
@@lexi6797 Calling a whole nation racist and Nazi because some taxi drivers didn't want to stop me in such a big city. I would call that xenophobia and ignorance. As an Argentine, I believe that we do not deserve all of these arrogant and superficial comments. I agree with you on something... it is very difficult to reason with stupidity and ignorance. This video is a good example of that.
Argentina has 23 provinces (states). Buenos Aires is just one city in Argentina. It’s like saying don’t go to America because people in NYC are rude. I honestly been all over Argentina and had a great time. People like to say Argentina is a racist county but they have always opened their borders to everyone. Don’t make your decision based on persons experience. Go visit Argentina from North to South and then make your decision. I will put money that you will have good things to say.
This is such a weird response to “I will not go back to Buenos Aires based on my bad experience in Buenos Aires” I didn’t say anything about the rest of Argentina.
Shida, THANK YOU for sharing your experience!!! Like you, I've traveled a lot over 30+ years, and avoiding...confronting...and reporting racism has always been something I've had to do. This is exactly why there are certain parts of the Planet which I have NO desire to see, let alone give that population any of my hard earned dollars. Argentina is one of those countries. There are too many stories that have been shared by other Diasporans about horrible treatment they've experienced there. Why would Black & Brown want to pay to experience marginalization and exclusion, when we can stay in the US and get it for free????!!! To the contrary, Mexico is one of my FAVORITE places to visit, and I've been to a number of different cities over the years. I've ALWAYS felt welcome as an African American male, especially since Spanish is my second language. I've made friendships with locals that I've maintained over the years. They honestly seem to like, not simply tolerate, Black & Brown people. Places like this will always get my return business, as well as praise (Side note: I received this positive reception in the 3 Middle Eastern countries I've visited as well, and would recommend them to any Black & Brown travelers: Oman, Qatar, and Dubai.) Given Argentina's horrible history of treatment towards African and Native people, why would we go there???? I'll attempt to post a link below regarding this history, which no one talks about. People definitely need to read up on it prior to going. Again, thanks for sharing your experience! www.ibtimes.com/blackout-how-argentina-eliminated-africans-its-history-conscience-1289381
Very good article. The Paraguayan war was a disaster. Especially for the Guarani people. Never heard that someone in Argentina identifies as white. If it is common to be Tano (Italian) Gallego (from Spain) Russian (the Jewish people) Negro (the mixed race that have some color left) Chinese (any Asian with Chinese origin, Korea or Japan).In reality, most of us Argentines are criollos, a mixture of Native Americnas with European migrations. What I don't understand is how if the Argentines are so racist, the descendants of Africans were mixing so much.
@Javier Soteras Read the article, again. Black soldiers were intentionally put on the front lines during the Paraguayan war. That killed off huge numbers of male Afro-Argentinos. The returing survivors were pushed and confined to the most squalid parts of Buenos Aires, where they were exposed to small pox and other diseases.... and died in even bigger numbers. If that's not racist genocide, I don't know what is. And let's not even get into el época de Los Desaparecidos!!! More genocide.
@@delpejerrey that's like asking, "if the Unites States was so racist, why are there so many mixed people." Do you think rape doesn't happen? Do you think that although a country is built on racism, that perhaps SOME of its inhabitants aren't racist? Ignorance is no excuse. You should educate yourself, especially in this day and age where the technology exists to actually be able to learn the truth, instead of just believing the propaganda.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. Argentina is now permanently off my list. My coins are too precious to be spent where me and mine are not wanted.
You shouldn't judge an entire country because of one person having a bad expirience. But, hey, it's your choice. You'll never know what you're missing.
@@facundob.f8606 don’t care. All skinfolk ain’t kin folk. Y’all can keep Buenos Aires. I definitely trust Roshida and the word of other Black Women over yours or whoever he is. Perhaps stop ignoring the experience of black people when we talk about racism.
As We Say In The U.K……*Blow That For A Lark*…… My Motto: “GO WHERE YOU’RE TREATED BEST”. The World Is a Big Place & There Are LOTS Of Fabulous Countries/Cities One Can Visit and Feel GOOD. Life Is Too Short To Waste Time In Cities That Don’t Respect Or Value People…For Racist, Sexist Or Any IGNORANT Reasons. Not Giving MY Hard Earned Money To ANYONE Who Doesn’t Value Me. Thanks For Sharing.
@@curcumagranola5283 People forget that Argentina was a welcoming hub for all the nazis sympathizers after world war 2. Argentina also did an ethnic cleansing of black and indigenous folks. As a black person , I do not understand why some of our folks wants to go to EUROPE and Racist Countries but not supporting Africa and the Caribbeans.
I am in Buenos Aires right now and I spent close to 5 weeks in Uruguay . I won't comment on Shida's experience because it is hers ( person, time, manners, language,etc.) and hers only. I am a Black North American , 50 year old plus and a male. In the Retiro neighbourhood, about the Cancilleria, I have never seen dog poop but 2 or more blocks away, I can smell urine on the sidewalks or see 1 or 2 people literally sleeping on the sidewalk, sometimes on a cheap foam mattress. Getting a taxi in Buenos Aires can be hard at certain times ( office closing time) but at least 3 times, as a senior Black man I was able to get a taxi by hailing who not only drove me but was willing to wait for me for short errands and even without my asking offered to pick me up later and dropped me their name and telephone number for future errands. As to people on the sidewalk blocking my way , I would forcefully and willingly walk INTO their path, so they would have to part away or we would lock into our steps. Microagressions or microracism acts are worldwide ; my take on this : fight back , don't run away. Jewish people suffered at the hands of Nazi Germany but STILL visit Germany and live there. Generally, Uruguayans think they are a cut above the Argentinians.
I love Mexico City. I love Zacatecas even more. I just got back from Guatemala and El Salvador. If you get the chance, Metapan in El Salvador is a lovely city. It totally surprised me.
I am from Buenos Aires, I live in BA, I am sorry for your experiences, I have to say that I have many friends, from different countries and races, including black people, who told a different story, totally opposite to yours about the people's behaviour. Dog poop is real, but people have improved a lot and it depends on the neighborhood. I also agree with the exchange issue and the economy. As a big city, it has the usual common problems. And you can find a diversity of situations, good or not so good, but it cannot be something to decide not to visit. Anyway, you are welcome again if you want to repeat, and I even offer you my home to stay. Buenos Aires is well worth visiting because of much more positive things than negative. Hugs.
I can't get over that dog shit situation. That is completely disgusting. The country is not so bad that they can concern themselves with dog shit. Speaks to the mentality of the culture. Totally disgusting.
I think some people are just determined to think bad about us and don't want to change their mind, and most of all they don't probe that they are wrong, sorry for them, everybody is welcome here, but to know a diferent cilture is nessesary to habe an open mind, we are not a copy USA, may be some of them where anoyied and got misstreated by a diferent standards of what is considered good or bad education, may be they think they are so much superior to other cultures that everybody who doesn't agree with their concept customer service is surely wrong, we are lucky that in argentina customers are not always right people with good vibes always have great times in argentina. Sorry for those who will never know the real Argentina
I live close to Spain ( living now in Portugal) but I won't be going there... when I was last there I was treated fine. But I've heard that Black people these day are not treated very nicely there About 2 year ago I had a 3 hour lay-over there traveling from Morocco and the ticket agents were grouchy and rude to me when I tried to get help on which gate to go to. Top of the list for maybe you may not want to go to if you're Black is CHINA!
You have me questioning whether I should stop buying Argentine wine. I love a good Malbec but I no longer wanna give coin if their people are so hung up about being of servitude to black people.
I had the taxi experience in Barcelona, I had to go into a hotel and asked the bell boy to get me a cab, because I could not get an empty one to stop...I did not have that experience in Madrid....It sounds like racism to me
I want to not like this video because of what you had to endure. It’s amazing how peoples minds continue to be poisoned about people of color/poor people/anyone different
All those things are so true! I suppose my experience was overshadowed by the fact that I dance and had a sort of built in community. I met people every time I went out and they invited me to their homes etc. I also stayed long term in a guest house where the owner/lady and her family were always looking out for me. I went out with her sometimes and even went partying with her sons! In a way I was almost always with locals and whenever I needed a taxi I asked someone in the restaurant or even a stranger on the street to help me call a cab. Every time I went somewhere I told them upfront I would be using pesos so there was no confusion. Sorry you had a bad experience and It does seem like things have very much declined in that country.
I’m from the states and have been living here from April 2019 to present. You are correct there is so much dog poop everywhere! It’s really sad that not everyone picks up their dogs poop! The ppl are rude and will not move out of the way. This happens in the small grocery stores all the time and other places. Many ppl have been rude to me in the past three years. Most of the time if I’m speaking English to my children some people will be even more rude too us! On the other hand I have met some very nice people as well. Yes, the inflation is really bad here at the moment. When we arrived her in 2019 you could get 45 pesos for every dollar now it’s 222 pesos to the dollars. If your able to have dollars and exchange to pesos you definitely have buying power! Keep in mind there is good and bad in ever country. We have never had problems with Uber coming to pick us up. Actually the experience for transportation has always been pretty good.
I went to Buenos Aires about a decade ago..I was with a tour group of Black people within a larger tour group of white people. We hit all the hots spots, Iguacu Falls, San Telmo, the soccer stadium, the steak houses and tango dancehalls, the Recoleta neighborhood and cemetery etc. I had more problems from the WW in our tour group than native Argentinians. We Black folk stuck together as usual. I didn't have any problems from the people of Buenos Aires, but I did from a WW from America who seemed to be upset because a vendor catered to our Black group and not her. Argentina, and Buenos Aires specifically has a very homogeneous population unlike diverse Brazil. I saw one other Black person in Buenos Aires and he was really happy to see other Black people, lol, so that was telling. The economy in B.A sucked in 2010 as well, we were able to get a lot for our money. They even said they would take a check!!!! I ate a lot of beef in South America...a lot! You have to stress well done or they will send your steak out bloody. There were a lot of people sleeping in the streets and that surprised me, but then I reasoned with a crappy economy I shouldn't be that surprised. Argentinians struck me as more self-absorbed vs. Brazilians who are outgoing and friendlier (especially if you attempt to speak Brazilian Portuguese). Keep this in mind when traveling in South America the term, Blaquiemento, which translates to whitening of the race, a practice put into effect by many Latin American nations to attract European to South America particularly after WWII to make SA less black. Our Brazilian tour guide stated that Argentinians we're considered to be "so dramatic" compared to other South Americans. I didn't recall seeing any dogs or a dog poop problem while I was there. Also for reference, the country's past president Kirchner died so the country as a whole went into mourning and had parades, protests etc. It was a different vibe as a result. So in conclusion, I personally didn't have any issues in BA, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they occured.
I have always heard of the anti black in Argentina from years ago, was planning a trip one country in south America as I am retired now well this video just helped me to shorten my list no Argentina for me
Ugh. Sorry you had that experience. Not going there. I’ve been in Playa Del Carmen for a month, staying in an AirBB in Palmas Turquesa. I walk to the market and laundry weekly. The dog poop in this area is terrible, it’s hard to catch a taxi (they ride by empty) , and the WOMEN are rude. One of them actually went out of her way to bumped my 11 year old daughter on purpose. So much room and you saw her! I can’t get arrested in Mexico… so, I’m going to Mexico City next week. If I ever come back, I will stay in Centro.
If you see any posters up for Solemans DJ events in PDC you should go before you leave. I had so much fun when I was there and met a lot of expats at his event. I don’t remember the name of the Restraunt bar it was at on the main strip. But there were a lot of black people there having fun who live in PDC and Suleman is such a sweet soul who will welcome you.
Merida is also another great option for Mexico. I just left, but it was a really great experience. The people are friendly, there's a decent-sized black community that meets up weekly. I never felt unsafe. I'm planning on going back toward the end of summer
@@misterniceguy67 I picked an airbnb that was in north Mérida. It ended up being about 20 minutes from Progresso Beach and 30 minutes from Centro. Ubers/DiDis were really cheap so it was still pretty convenient. If you plan to stay a bit I would say pick an airbnb and scout the area. The best prices aren't online, you find them walking around the city.
I am in BA now. 99% of the people are wonderful. But 2 days ago, a young male loser shouted some racial epithet at me while I was relaxing at an exclusive cafe. I guess my apparent affluence was too much for him to bear. Whatever the case, it was an isolated incident that might rear its head again in due time. But again, most people here have been lovely.
But go and tell that, they wont believe you because for a reason they believe we hate a minority which comprise 0,4% of the total population. They like polemics.
Agree 100% - and I am a non-black Mexican woman who lived in Buenos Aires years ago and visited several times cause my ex is from there. There is both racism and poor service, there’s dog poop everywhere, currency exchange is nuts and abusive, yeah to everything you said. On the positive side: Ice cream is delicious, so is pastry, pizza and Italian food. Female friends are the most loyal friends a girl can get and musicians are top tier. But yeah a lot of racist people there… a lot of rude people there… a lot of selfish and arrogant people there. Even Argentinians will agree that “porteños” (aka people from Buenos Aires) are like that. So it is a 100% accurate description of Buenos Aires. Anyone disagreeing is just wrong lol.
Just wanted to remind everyone of the 70's. Do you know what was on the ground everywhere (especially in New York City) before the laws: dog poop. It was a horror back in the day. Argentina just needs to have laws and fines and then enforce them.
Rashida, you are on point. I lived and worked there and by the Grace of God survived it. I could not wait to get on that plane and Get Out. Horrible experience! I befriended a girl from Africa when I was there. We were both young ladies. She is graduating from the university and asked if I would come to her graduation. I told her virtually, in spirit, congratulation to her via the wind to carry, but, by TMH, I will never step foot, toe, finger nail, breath, ear lobe (U get my point) into that horrible country again!
I had a similar experience with the dog excrement situation in Cannes! You don't have to tell me anything else, haha, that alone kills an entire experience for me.
well, I didn't think the dog poop in Cannes was egregious. Maybe because I was in Nice prior, and went to Marseille afterwards. Take all the dog poop of Nice and Cannes, then add bird poop on literally everything, maniac drivers, hundreds of unemployed young men staking out tourist sites and stations, coupled in with worn-rundown buildings and voila! Marseille, France. Viva la France 🇨🇵 I talk smack because it was not a beautiful city in the slightest, but the people were some of the most hospitable I've ever met anywhere, second only to those of Helsinki, which is also not a nice looking city, for the most part. The hospitality of the people make up for it. People in Cannes are very respectful by the way, and the people in Nice are helpful for the most part. Southern France is the exact opposite of what you will experience with other French people outside of France. No one knows exactly why.
Its funny cos you are talking with your USA privilegies, but your family come from Africa, the most poor continent and you have the pride to talk about things from the 3th world, i hope you know were you are.
Argentinean here. We as Argentineans are not allowed to legally exchange our money. That's why the REAL prize was based on the "blue"/ilegal market. Our president then destroyed our economy. We were heading towards hyperinflation. It was not racism, people were having a really tough time. Our only hope back then was to get a foreign citizenship and leave the country. Now, things are finally getting better. We are finally having hope again that maybe we can stay in our own country. Milei is taking the meassures that needed to be taken.
I'm neither black nor foreign and get the same experiences you got with apps like Uber (that's quite common,), customer service in certain places is just not good.. what you mentioned in San Telmo, that's a cultural thing. We would just say "excuse me" and walk by in between people without even giving it a thought, our culture has very little respect towards personal space, we are overly touchy, we don't mind people walking in between us if we are in a situation like the one you described. All the situations you depicted sound like something that could have happened to anybody here, nothing to do with gender or colour.
PS: I'm not a fan of the city of Buenos Aires either, I have moved to a small town away from it for a reason. Just wanted to point out that none of the things that happened to you stemmed from racism. It had more to do with Kitchnerism being in power destroying our currency and freedom and with cultural differences with the US.
Hello, Argentinian here. Thanks for the video, being so polite about the bad experiences and not rushing to call us racists as I´ve seen in other occasions. Reason 1: This is an issue, it used to be much worse and there are lots of neighborhoods that nowadays have none of that thanks to public dispensers of plastic bags to pick them up and fines against people who do this. I dont know which neighborhood you attended, but I agree that its disgusting, and I think your reading about people not caring for their neighbours is sort of true. I could elaborate more on the last if you like. Reason 2: The rudeness of people may be due to a cultural shock, we have a really weird way of interacting with each other and to the untrained eye it can all look very rude, agressive, etc. For example, in my group of life-long friends, we never call each other by our names, here are some nicknames we have for each other: "el gordo, el papu, la gordita, el negro, el chichi, el mudo, el chino" Translation (roguh) : " Fatty, dad, the little fat(woman), the black, the chichi, the mute, the chinese" . None of these are understood as an insult, its even more endearing to call someone by their nickname rather than their actual name. The rudeness of some people on the street, like the people that would not move or block the way doesnt sound like something out of the ordinary but its not unpolite if they didnt see you in my opinion. On the other hand, the guy that blocked your way was an idiot. Reason 3: It has happened to me that 4 taxis went past me (im white as can be, all my family is all italian), this is because sometimes taxis are called to go to a certain location and they dont turn off their marker. It's dumb, yes, but that may be your case + bad luck. Just one month ago I sat at a bar for almost 30 minutes without anyone coming to take my order, when I realized that I had to go to the "barra" and ask it for myself there, xd. I understand that being from up there you ask yourself the question about racism and I dont blame you for it, there are some truly racist people here, but Its safe to say that its a minority. I suspect there are concentrations of these racist people from german colonies mostly from the nazis that came here in the second world war. Racism is shunned here, there are a lot of "mestizos" because we are really mixed, but this idea of argentinians being racists or white may come from 2 sources: - "The porteños" Is a term for the people of the capital city, sadly the cliche for these people is that they feel better than the rest and say that Argentina is european. This can be mistaken for racism but its not, its just a form of nationalism that turns out disgusting for everyone. I have met people like this, but Its safe to say that its not all people from buenos aires, every place has their brand of dumbasses. - Cultural shock. The argentinian way of socializing is crazy in a way, its hard for a foreigner to understand us in my opinion. The Argentinian is very invasive of personal space generally, not caring to offend, daring to do big leaps of trust between people, and people generally dont take the other too seriously (which is why sometimes people can feel rude and sometimes this can be expressed in the wrong ways, such as not caring about their neighbours). But, as I have experienced bad things, I have also experienced beautiful acts of kindness all over the city. Like shop keepers from my neighborhood learning my name and asking me how I have been doing or trusting me with money, people helping me off the ground after dislocating my knee, etc etc. It's like all places, we cant form our entire view from a small sample. For some perspective about how the average argentinian is, take as an example the crazyness around football (Soccer, for those that don´t understand anything about the sport ;) ) , No other country has that type of behaviour around a sport, and its more than a sport really, we project everything culture-related to it. Reason4: True. Nothing to add. God have mercy on us.
Thank you for being so honest. Vacations are costly in terms of time and money. It would really be disappointing for me to spend all that money and time to visit a city where I may not feel welcome. Perhaps when I am retired I can take a chance but not now. Thanks!
When you went the first time did you go with a group of black folks??? You know how people feel about large groups of black peoples they don’t want any part of that no matter how old you are.
Louis Vuitton do not double the price of their products or any other luxury goods seller for that matter. It's the huge luxury tax, sales tax and tariffs that the Argentine government impose. Protectionism at it's worst. Unless goods are made in Argentina then they will be hit with the extra taxes, The luxury European companies from fashion to cars to jewellery all take profits out of Argentina further weakening the Peso so the Government is trying to stop the outflow of money!
I am an experienced traveller to define discrimination of ones skin color and being treated poorly in a foreign country the answer is it happening consistently. The locals Energy towards you is a big sign, The way people look at you the non verbals, Customer service, Interactions with people. Too many people of color have had bad experiences in Argentina for it to be just coincidence.
To people who says their grandparents came to Argentina in the 1900: is everything alright back home? If you are going to defend your opinion of a country at least try that is based in a more actual/updated comment (at max 20ys). All countries develop and evolve, and if you compare them with a statement made by someone who came like 45 years ago and you didn't even came here in the last few years it's obvious that there is no guarantee that your comment reflex the actual society. I am not saying there's no racism here ofc there is! But racism exists in every corner of the planet so I don't really get why several people on the comments attack saying that we welcomed Nazis and that we are Nazis 😶 we are kind of tired of that. If you are going to come here and write something nasty under this comment at least first recall your history classes and remember that none country was a saint when it comes to establish the territory, there were native people murders, slavery, abuse and so on
Well many Nazi fled Germany and went to Argentina so there is no surprise that they have a history of racism. My experience on 2012 wasn't as bad as this but I found the city boring and the food was terrible. Never had any intentions of going back.
The second-largest community of Jewish outside Israel lives in Buenos Aires, so it is stupid and offensive to say that it is a Nazi Country. Please, respect!
The vast MAJORITY of the Nazis went to United States... So, kindly... Sit down and be quiet. The German presence in Argentina is rather small, and the few Nazis that did make it, went into "hiding", not proudly displaying their bullshit around. United States is by FAR one of the most racist and disgusting places in the world (I know, I live in Kentucky), where black people are literally MURDERED on the daily for just existing, but SURE Argentina is problematic because 7 taxis did not stop when flagged (also, PLENTY of comments mentioning that happens to everyone, regardless of color). That's just it... Everything she mentioned and complaint about are real things that do happen in Buenos Aires, but NOT because they are black. It happens to ALL. It happens to white people, to tourists, to locals, to poor, to middle class... And here you are trying so hard to make it about race, when it's not and talking from places with REAL race issues. Shake my damn head.
Its great that you are telling your point of view, so that we understand better the argentinian society but: 1- Argentina is a really diverse country 2- Yeah, there are problems with the dollars, you have to work to live well
I'm sorry you had a miserable time, but you're not the first African-American traveler that had a bad experience in Argentina and probably won't be the last, but I hope you had a wonderful time in Antartica.
@@g718ny She's an American first, African second. If you live in the United States, you should know that is how all Americans refer to all individuals of African descent.
@@g718ny in the United States we refer to ourselves as either Black American or African American. We are of African decent. We live in a country that hates people who have African in their blood their history their appearance. I am very proud to call myself African American and Black America to show “others” that I love my appearance, my culture, my ancestors and I have no shame in that. Black people all over the world need to stop acting like they have shame and proudly claim Blackness and stop trying to be like “them”.
I stayed in Buenos Aires city for almost 6 months last year. Yes there's a lot of dog poop, yes customer service is slow and can at times be very frustrating. Yes the taxi drivers and most people don't speak English. and yes the economy isn't at its best but if you are earning in dollars or Euros the country can be very cheap for a tourist to visit. It is difficult however to get money in the country if you haven't brought enough cash with you to exchange in the blue rate market, but there is always Wester Union (exchange rate is blue rate) if you are patient enough to do so. With that being said, I still highly enjoyed my experience in the city and met many locals who were kind. I am a Filipino and have definitely experienced racism in other countries around the world but I still try to see the beauty in all the places I am lucky enough to travel to.
I was watching Ace' videos in Argentina and I just came across this I am really sorry that you have come across evil, racist and ignorant people. Your experience is valid and I fully understand your decision. But like you said, you've already come and had a good time before. So I don't think that because of some people, Argentina should receive so much criticism in the comments of people who haven't even come here. No country is perfect,, Good luck🙂
Curioso que la mayoría de los comentarios coincidan, y esque los argentinos no salen de su burbujita de "somos descendientes de europeos ñiñiñi" no mames, espero eso les salve de la inflación, y no, no es hate, ustedes sólos se dan a conocer al mundo
@@kimjongpunk8024 Sí y no, porque mucha gente de muchos lugares conoce buenos argentinos, dentro y fuera de nuestro país, hay una imagen general que no fue establecida por nuestros actos, sino por gente que no nos conoce. Por eso en nuestro pequeño espacio buscamos promover la unión entre naciones y darle voz a toda Latinoamérica como un solo lugar. Los paises no son racistas, las personas lo son, en mi país, en el tuyo y en el de cualquier persona, he conocido mexicanos horribles, pero HORRIBLES con mayúscula, así como mexicanos llenos de amor como nuestros compañeros de Del Café al Tequila, esos comentarios que no suman, solo nos dividen y de eso solo se beneficia la gente mala. Saludos!
As an Argentinian, I feel so ashamed hearing your awful experiences. But I must say that it´s more likely to meet disgusting and racist people on the streets of Buenos Aires rather than in other regions of my country. Argentina is very big and diverse. I´m sure you will have much better experiences if you travel to other Argentinian provinces, and we have many wonderful places to visit.
I appreciate your view on Buenos Aires, as I'm going there in a few months. I'm a black man so maybe I will experience some of the same as you did. But that being said I'm currently in South America, and I have been in SA for 8 months now. And some of the things you mentioned are similar in the two countries that I have been. That also being said I know Argentina is different than other SA countries (especially the north where I'm currently at the moment) But I have some Argentine friends, and I speak almost fluent Spanish so maybe those two things will make a difference in my experience. I'm also planning to stay longer than two weeks actually a few months so maybe I will have a totally different viewpoint ( for better or worse) But I really do appreciate this video, because I will at least have some things to look for, and will be better prepared before my trip there.
So how did it go Tyson? I'm curious to know, because the way this lady bashes Buenos Aires, when the whole world is pretty much the same, it's astonishing to me. I live in Kentucky, USA and it's one of the worst places I ever been in my entire life. I also lived 4 years in Barcelona, Spain and THAT is racism if I ever seen it, and not only against blacks. And I've been to New York and the dirt, piss smell (not from animals), rats as big as cats everywhere and absolute BAT SHIT CRAZY people screaming on the street for no reason is not something that I find appealing, YET I would go to New York any time and I don't do videos online to bash New York, or Kentucky, Barcelona or Los Angeles, etc... Like...
I’ve traveled to Buenos Aires with a group of friends, and it is a places that I would NEVER go to again. Being followed in a mall by officers on walkie-talkies, giving updates to each other on our where about was really unsettling. The stares! Never saw 2 Black ppl together, always alone. So, I guess 8 of us got their attention. Buenos Aires was the worst of all the places that I’ve ever visited.
There are a whole bunch of non-Black and/or non-women folk coming here to negate my experience because they had a great time in Buenos Aires. What you're really doing is proving my point not invalidating it. As a Black woman, I was treated poorly. You living in a different body, were treated well. That doesn't prove that racism doesn't exist, it bolsters my claims that race was at the core of the treatment I received.
If you clearly don't understand the insidious nature of racism, denying it's existence just makes you look...racist (and dumb).
I appreciate you exposing racism when you see it. Black folks need to tell other Black people of the places that disrespect and mean US harm. Keep doing the what you have been moved to do concerning your people. Again, I appreciate you Sista.👍
Argentina just (About three years ago) started acknowledging that there is an Afro-argentinian population with a census designation. They have always pushed the total European myth.
Even here in the United States, Latinamerican immigrants push the non-racial Latin America lie.
I've always wanted to visit Argentina but, I'm having serious second thoughts.
Argentina exterminated the majority of the blacks and indigenous people there. After the blacks gave them tango, music, culture and food, inventions…
Exactly !
El lobby negro atacando a Argentina, primero el Washington Post, después los franceses, ahora los youtubers. No importa, hemos resistido ataques peores.
Además, esta chica es de Estados Unidos y donde experimentó racismo es en Buenos Aires porque LOS UBER LE CANCELABAN LOS VIAJES Y EN LOS BARES NO LE SERVIAN PRIMERO A SU MESA. 😂
@@argentinisima Jajjajaj No sabe que los camareros de Argentina van enquilombados, y atienden cualquier mesa, no van en orden como en otros paises. Entonces estamos todos discriminados ahi si es por eso Jajajjaja. Y los viajes se los cancelaron seguro porque tenian algun cliente fijo, otro mas cerca, vaya a saber.. Pero bueno, ella prefiere parece el Apartheid de Estados Unidos, O a Francia y sus colonias africanas, con La ville de Bambule, que era un zoologico de gente negra que se suspendio hace solo 30 anos. Para mi es al reves, nosotros siempre nos alegramos de los extranjeros y los invadimos a preguntas por curiosidad y ganas de viajar.
Colorism is rampant is South America. The reality is that most places around the globe people of African decent are considered at the bottom / lower end of the social scale. People feel justified to disrespect people of African decent
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@@chocoflan6672 nah he said what he said.
Anti-blackness is the child of white supremacy and colonialism. It has been exported across the world. But it’s up to us as black people to not accept it and not buy into it. And not to spend our tourism dollars in countries that don’t treat us and those that look like us well.
@@chocoflan6672 but don’t by massed produced “artifacts” made in China. Visit the different tribes and buy directly from them.
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It’s been said that Argentina is the closest version of Spain that you will find in Latin America. It’s where many Nazis escaped to at the end of WWII. The fact that racism is prevalent there shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Yup ! we need to stop lying to ourselves about the number of places where the hatred of black ppl runs deep. Its not just white america
Terence Williams, are you implying that Spain is racist??? Maybe you had better inform yourself better and visit the country before saying that. Before judging, do your homework.
@@user-hn8pc7mg8f Spain is pretty racist though, so is Italy.
@@user-hn8pc7mg8f Spain is as RACIST as it gets. All you have to do is Google video of how locals treat African futbol players, by throwing bananas on the field and yelling out monkey sounds!!!!!
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My father told me that Argentina is the most racist place he had ever visited in his 80something year life. My father traveled the globe as a businessman from Africa. He was humiliated over and over again, he said they wouldn’t even honor the hotel reservations that he had paid for in advance via his travel agent. Don’t sugar coat, it is what it is. They are beyond racist! Period.
Argentinians are racist against, Peruvians, Bolivians, Paraguayans etc.
Its funny cos you are talking with your USA privilegies, but your family come from Africa, the most poor continent and you have the pride to talk about things from the 3th world, i hope you know were you are.
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Earthomo????😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nice try
There seems to be a pattern here in the comments. Argentinians are basically saying, this happens to us, too, so how can this be racism? On the other hand, you and other people from the US who are also black are saying, trust us, this is racism. No one is disagreeing with you that your experiences were bad. But, to strongly imply it ´s racism, based on a short stay is unfair. Also, I have lived here for 12 years, am most definitely not white, but have never experienced racism. I ´ve had unpleasant experiences here and there, but racism had nothing to do with it. Also, my Argentinian husband has also experienced all those bad experiences that you did as well, not because of racism. Argentinians can be that way with each other. And they treated you no differently. Customer service, in general, is not that great here, especially in restaurants. And that guy on the street who didn ´t move out of his way for you, that happens to my husband and everyone here time and again. The thing to do for people like that is to simply tap them on the shoulder and say, permiso. They will move every time. The taxis, someone else already explained. They will often not turn off their lights when answering another call. And Ubers, if you are paying with credit, or someone else orders an Uber and is going further and will therefor pay more, they will go with the higher paying customer every time. Same for hotels, even on Airbnb. Hotels and home or apartment owners might cancel reservations here because they know they can charge more to a newer guest. No one is denying nor discounting your bad experiences. Especially for those of us who live here, we know how annoying it can be here sometimes. But, as an American, I feel we have been conditioned to automatically see racism everywhere, even when there is no call to. And this idea, is it racism or is it…is very American. Black and other non white friends from other countries, or even the US, have told me that they have not experienced racism here, either. Nor did I see it when I was with them. Again, I am not discounting nor denying your bad experiences. Nor even denying that racism might exist here as well. Just pointing out that to paint an entire country, an entire people a certain negative way based on a short trip is unfair.
LOL - Ain't nobody reading your thesis about my experience 😂
@@Roshida Now who's being rude to someone who politely expressed their own opinion?
@@abcc917Not rude at all! Just accurate!! 😂 Not sure why aren't understanding...it was HER experience! This person is writing a book to attempt to prove what she experienced was otherwise! So annoying!!
This person wrote "no one is discounting your bad experiences", sharing their own personal experience in the same place, which happens to be different. Both are equally valid as subjective perceptions. Yeah, people disagreeing can be extremely annoying 🤷. But this is a public space for people to share their ideas and we can write a whole book of we want to.Don't want to read it? Ok. Don't like them because they don't agree with you? Fine. But there's a difference between the first answer and a short "Well, that's your experience, not mine". You can communicate the same idea and be polite.
Argentina used to be 50 percent black . Now that number is down to just a handful so that’s all black people need to know
Yeah, it's racism. Customer service doesn't exist as Americans are used to it in a lot of places. But you can still eat.
I'm sorry this happened to you. What's frustrating being black is not knowing for sure whether you're being dissed because of race - although we strongly suspect it's because of race. As they say in French: "You can smell your own odor in their eyes." That's how you must have felt.
It was wild. There were only two other tables taken in a big empty restaurant… 🙄
@@mickael4044 whoo, that turn of phrase is such a perfect way to put it.
I'm sorry about your experience. Customer service is usually bad in Buenos Aires. I'm Argentinian and actually get surprised when I get good customer service :S
@@mickael4044 what a great saying; it’s so true. I know you gave us the English translated meaning, but can you please write that out in French? I would love to memorize that saying and impressing people when it’s applicable.
If the yt travelers are not complaining about the customer service, it’s def racism.
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As a (non-white) argentinian, I can confirm the costumer service IS shitty for everyone, specially compared to some places like the US, a country that is way more racist but still has great costumer service.
@@askatuproductionsa nine white Argentinian is an oxymoron.
@@yonikb1497 there are mestizo argentinians
I am sorry you felt that way. While I respect your views, I must say that I disagree that Buenos Aires is a racist city. There are racists of course but as a black person living here for over 8 years, I can say they are welcoming people.
I've had strangers defended me against their own many times or even offer help. Many times I even treated better than Argentines.
I also know many black persons here and the incidents of discrimination are rare.
Again, I'm sorry you had that experience but I would definitely recommend Buenos Aires to Black people. That is why I started sharing on youtube about the culture. A few bad experiences in a week can turn you off but living in the country helps you to really understand the culture.
I agree with the dog poop, it's nasty. Lol
The economy is crappy but Argentines still manage to live comfortable lives. They are simple and happy people.😍
These are americans, they act like this and make videos about our countries for no reason but complain.
This is not just argentina. Its all over latin america. They recording us and making side comments. Complain and talk about dating, and women and men. Its were a zoo for these people. They make same kind of content and complaints in mexico. These americans/ gringos are extremely conceited and perverted.
@@kem1233 what???
Probably cause you light skinned
girl so what?! What does that have to do with her experience? People like you that try to invalidate others experiences are disguisting
I had Ubers cancel on me too in BA but I was told it was because I was not paying cash. Once I switched my Uber to paying cash, I did not have that problem anymore.
Yes, that's the point. If you pay with a credit card or debit card, the driver gets paid with a lag of 30 or 60 days, so they lose because of inflation, and also if you paid in US dollars, the government steals the gap between official and unofficial rate. That's not racism, that is people trying to protect their money from a crashed economy and a corrupt government.
That's the reason. Credit card payments in Uber was banned in Argentina so that's why they cancel the trips.
I studied in Buenos Aires for a semester in college (2016), and I 100% understand why you wouldn’t want to go back.
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Never come back , please.
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If you have to ask “if it’ is racism “ then you know it’s racism!! Dont give them the benefit of human doubt since they are not considering you as a human being.
@@GUITARTIME2024 you grow up and stop being racist since youre so offended by this original comment. How you on here watching a Black woman share her experience and have the nerve to be offended when we call it what it is: RACISM.
@@girlanonymous her opinion on the incidentl is not a fact. She's not a mind reader. Welcome to Logic 101.
@@GUITARTIME2024 You need to go to another channel. And yes her reality is a fact!
@@bigvalley4987so how someone feels is a FACT. Wow. That's frightening. You need therapy.
@@girlanonymous i think that you are biased by only one opinion you can watch "Ace Live" chsnnel He is traveling throu argentina and having a great time here
I was in Argentina 🇦🇷 for a month back in2019 & it was very cool 😎 experience.
My boyfriend is from Buenos Aires. He’s so kind and gentle. I’m black and he’s white, we travel, we help with each other’s businesses intellectually or financially.
It’s been two years, we’ve traveled everywhere but to one another’s country. He really wants me there but I’ve always been reluctant.
don't let this video scare you. We honestly don't care about race. Her experiences were unfortunate, but if you read the comments, most residents and Argentines are saying this is something that could have easily happened to any of us. I'm sure your partner can conffirn. Do get ready to be talked to and asked about your country, being insisted on trying some mate even if you hate it and people touching you a lot, we tend to deliver hugs to people we barely know, kiss everyone and are extremilly touchy without realizing that is not so common in most countries. But I'm sure you had already noticed. Other than that, getting skin care and hair products might be difficult to find, especially outside of the capital (but I'm just gessing). Long story short, we don't care about race, we are too busy complaining about the economy and judging each other based on our political views and prefered football team.
My first time in Buenas Aires a decade ago was a dream!!! The dollar was super strong, the service was amazing and the food was delicious. What happened?!? When Shida and I went into the restaurant only to never be served once we were seated… I was like wait…people don’t want these good coins?!? Ugh! It definitely felt different and the currency was not that complex back then. See you in Mexico, friend!
@Jessica Ekong I had the same experience you had on your 1st visit. I've not been there in about 20 years, but back then people were very nice to me, although, a few did stare at me
Different experience..
It's very common in Buenos Aires not to be served in a restaurant. More if you go to a touristy place at rush hour. As an Argentine I have experienced that my whole life.
I'm not saying my country is not racist, which is, but if you are American the experience of going to a shop or to a restaurant is very different to that of the States because employees are not trained to be nice and condescending to customers.
@Rosé ella dijo que habían más mesoneros en el restaurante que clientes. En ese caso no encuentro ninguna razón posible para que no las atendieran durante 45 minutes.
Thats something cultural. There is no one at the entrance (like other countries i visited), when you sit down you only need to make a signal and the waiter will come. Then the workers of the establishment they will not molest you (interrupt you while you are eating or talking), when you finished, they still will not approach you until you wish to leave that place and at this moment they would give you the bill. I as an argentinian i feel that in some foreign food places the people were to pushy and I feel a little upset that the waitress gave me the bill one minute after i finished when i still i was having a good time with my partner. There are different codes.
Racism in Argentina is against people with indigenous traits, not against people with African traits, the racism of Argentina, and Latin America in general, is a mix between classism and racism, it is very different from the racism of Europe and USA. Argentines have nothing against black people because they know nothing about black people, it is a country where practicing black people do not exist and therefore they have never created positive or negative prejudices against them. What happens is that Americans believe that they are the center of the world, and in this case, they analyze the racism of other countries thinking that the racism of all the countries in the world is the same as the racism of the United States.
Lol so few black people exist because the argentine government held genocide practices between 1700's to the 1900's
@@KissMyKimchiNot many black people and the real reason is they were replaced by immigration from Europe, mostly Spaniards, Italians and Jews.
England gets brushed with the American stereotypes but we have a much bigger class division and tension than race one... and always have.
@@thefootballpunnedit maybe not England but France is much more racist towards people with brown or black skin and they are not integrated at all into French culture. Continental Europe is different from the UK.
@@thefootballpunnedit also for non Anglo people, the UK and the US are very much the same culturally, politically, etc. Kind of imperialistic. The difference being USA is bigger
I am Argentine. Everything negative that you pointed out is real, I have experienced it in Buenos Aires. People don't pick up dog poop, behavior on the street is rude, service in many places is very bad, getting a taxi is very difficult. I don't think it's discrimination, it's just disastrous quality of service. To have a good experience it is necessary to know the recommended places and only visit the tourist area.a.
I don’t know why this video popped up in my feed when YT algorithm should know that I don’t like videos of people (be it black, brown, white) who expects same treatment everywhere as in their hometown
The algorithm knows you’re dumb and tried to tell you 🤷🏾♀️
Are there cities you would never recommend to Black travelers? Name them in the comments.
madrid, Spain. i was physically and verbally assaulted by men multiple times because they assume all black women are prostitutes. Otherwise i was treated well for 3 months, (no issues w taxis or service) but i will not be going back. and not that it matters but i was working there at US embassy so i was always dressed professionally during these encounters. Also i was born there smh
India..and some Asian countries the racism of non-black people of colour is usually unrestrained... because unlike whites.. they haven't formally oppressed blacks...so they can easily pretend it's how they are or their 'culture'.
@@mightyfinegal lol, I hear you. Can I ask this question, Are Black women safe anywhere?
@@RA-qb4gl Asia was pretty cool. I lived in Korea for over 5 years and had maybe three incidents in all that time where I had to think, "Ok, that's probably racist." And by racist, I mean 'anti-black' so I'd say they're about on par with the US. lol
I visited almost every country in Asia and didn't feel uncomfortable except with some of the undercover police in Beijing because they're scary to everyone all the time. :/
Australia. Racists everywhere.
Don't serve you in restaurants, refuse help in stores,
give you other hotel rooms then the ones you booked (like the bad ones/noisy ones) & paid exuberant prices for, cause everything in Australia is hella expensive.
Follow you in supermarkets.
And on top of that are very much so, brash about it to your face.
Horrible experience, was happy to after 3weeks that my time there was done.
This is so interesting to me! I had a very similar experience in Santiago,Chile. After being there for 4 months I knew I would never go back. I was the only black woman within my study abroad program (which is fine). However I remember being told by the wife of my host family that I was not allowed to travel with them to certain places because I was too dark. It was an experience amongst many that I will never forget!!! After that moment I started asking questions about their history and doing my own research. It blows my mind that most Chileans believe they are white🤦🏽♀️. Lord have mercy.
Anyway, I’m glad you shared your story! It’s important.
In reality they would be a mixture between European and Indigenous (Native) descendants according to genetic studies
we are not chilenians, we are a diferent culture, in argentina we are not anglophilus like the mainstream in chile.
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Chileans are over 90% white and that’s how the world sees them. Sorry just a fact.
@@Rockman975 peroncho,sabes que en chile se creen blancos a pesar de que todos son indigenas!!!y si en chile son anglofilos pero en argentina somos francofilos!!!el argentino quiere imitar al frances por lo menos los argentinos que no son planeros!!!
I went to BsAs in 2010 and I can attest that even back then, there was so much dog poop EVERYWHERE. One of my friends even slipped and fell on some. I went with a couple of friends: a Chinese-American, a Mexican American, and a Jewish friend-I'm a black male. Maybe I was insulated from any racism? I did go out on the town by myself one night, and everyone kept asking if I was from Brazil. I also noticed I was the ONLY black person everywhere I went. One bar did deny me entry but my Spanish is non-existent so I couldn't understand the reason why. I actually did make a friend there from a pub crawl I went to and we are friends to this day; I even visited him since he moved to Berlin. He said that there is not much interaction with blacks in Argentina-that Argentines are very snooty and think they are the "creme de la creme" of South America. They consider Brazil as totally underclass, and that extends to how they feel about black folks as well. There is very little black immigration into Argentina from Brazil.
Like I said, I didn't really have any "bad" experiences when I went out solo, maybe a lot of people being indifferent to my presence. I felt the same way when I went to Prague. Because I wasn't engaged by people in both of those places like I have been virtually everywhere else, I also wouldn't recommend BsAs OR Prague.
What is BsAs?
I just can't believe this! It is really sad.
I have been doing some research for my forthcoming slow travel across Latin America. Indeed, cost of living is cheap in Argentina. But with your video account, I am dropping off Argentina from my list of countries to visit in Latin America.
They fell 😳😨 Ohhhh Noooo
@@barbarablackmon7807 abbreviation for Buenos Aires
@@synolve Yep! And because the economy has been going south for years, a lot of the city is in decay-the infrascruture was not kept up in most places. Lots of cracked and uneven sidewalks. That are covered in poo. I'm really surprised we all didn't fall at some point.
I’ve never been to Argentina but the irony for me is people are comparing it to Spain in the comments and guess what’s the most racist country I’ve visited: Spain.
I just got back to Canada from Barcelona where I was very obviously a tourist. I’ve never experienced that intense energy before. It was clear distain and contempt or sometimes I was just treated as completely invisible. The restaurant service and sidewalks were the same for me as you describe. I wasn’t sure if it was a difference in cultural standards or just them hating tourists/Americans. Crazy experience but I guess that’s part of the adventure of travel. I wouldn’t go back there either. ❤️
We went to Brussels (All Blacks except one of our sound guys from Church Arnold a White Romanian-). We had gone on a church plant mission from England. Our pastor had been there before. It was a group of seven and we ordered food costing over 200 euros. The bread rolls we had were called and the food sub-standard. Normally in England if a particular dish isn't up to standard, you can have the restaurant cook the same thing again. Not so in Brussels. Over there, if you ain't happy you can leave but you still have to pay for the sub standard meal. The whole thing was bizarre and not a great advert for Belgium. At least you yourself are white so am not sure what the crack was there but definitely that restaurant for me was a shocker
Thank you for your video. I’m so sorry that you were not treated well. I went to Buenos Aires in 2007 and had the best time ever, a far more enjoyable experience than in Brazil. I am planning an Antarctica adventure that will likely have me transit through Argentina or Chile so Thanks for the heads up
Where are you from?
what happened during your stay in Brazil?
You're pure gold. I think Roshida has grudges from being b!ack in the USA, so she's projecting a false image.
I watched your videos about Mexico before traveling here as a solo black female traveler, and I seriously love LOVE it here! So, at this point, I basically trust you with my life! If you say Buenos Aires isn't good for black travelers, I won't be going!! sending big hugs!
I know that's right!
Por ejemplo en Rosario, mi ciudad, al no ser turistica,os pocos que hay son algunos de refugiados Haitianos o africanos...tambien algunos estidiante mayoremente de brazil ..
En los ultimos años exiliados Venezuela....y tpdo se integran pq todos.somow hijow o niestpw de inmigantes
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Same here
Buenos Aires isn't good for travelers, period.
Out of all the colonized South American countries, Argentina was the worst at pushing out their indigenous population.
So true!! This is why black folks need to really amp up on history of the country before visiting!
Yeah they were down with the Germans too ... You know, after the war...
@@kro0018 Well said!
@@chocoflan6672 The F are you talking about. Why must there always be a delusional troll Lurking in the comments section somewhere 🙄
Go back to your bunker eating Cheetos and drinking coke.
Some of us yes, care about humankind and it's history enough to add to the discussion in meaningful ways.
@@chocoflan6672 dude. I was born in Africa and live in Europe. English isn't even my first language (I speak 4).
What's your problem man?!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Buenos Aires has been on my travel list for a while but now 🥴🥴 I had a similar experience with wondering if I was experiencing racism, during my short and unpleasant stay in Poland. I had no issues in Krzyżowa, a beautiful small village. But when I got to Wrocław… I honestly said I’m NEVER coming back to Poland. Myself and my friend (who is also black) were on a Europe tour with other students while in college. We were the only two black people on that trip. We were walking around the Wrocław downtown square and kept getting stared at. At first we didn’t care because it’s (central) Europe, we don’t expect there to be a lot of black people. Then the stares became uncomfortable and as we stood talking to each other a tall man in a black leather jacket (not a skinhead at first glance but who knows) walked from the other side of the square with this angry look on his face, stood right in front of us and shouted something at us in Polish. We didn’t know what he said so we just assumed either he was crazy or a racist. No one did or said anything to help or explain to us what he said so we just walked away. Then we went to a fast food restaurant to get something to eat and we stood in line for an unusually long time. The server/cashier even started attending to customers behind us. We were so confused. It wasn’t until I assertively said, “Excuse me, can we please order? We’ve been standing her for a while”. The server pretty much rolled her eyes and reluctantly attended to us. The whole thing was bizarre and uncomfortable to say the least for only myself and my friend. While everyone else went out that night she and I stayed in our hotel room because we didn’t feel welcome in that city. Because we couldn’t speak or understand Polish, we weren’t sure what was being said but the vibes (if I can put it that way) were way off. I told myself I wouldn’t come back to Poland which is a shame because I have met lovely Polish people outside of Poland. 🤷🏽♀️ I also don’t want to make a judgement about a whole country based on my experience in one city but it’s hard not to lol
Not everyplace is safe for black people. Especially with the rise of right-wing extremism growing in Europe.
That sucks. All the Polish people I've met in the US have been super cool. Two of them are married to black people. I honestly might ask one of them about it. :/
Wroclaw is a Jewish city in Poland.
@@miragemirage3670 Very interesting comment. It's quite important to do a little researching on the places you plan to visit. The past is just as valid as the present.
Even in the states, NEVER eat the food of those that gives bad vibes.
I'm from Buenos Aires (the province not the city), and yeah people from the city are rude to the point that parisians seemed nice to me. That thing where they don't move drives me insane, is so common. The taxi thing, taxi drivers are shady af, I wouldn't put racism past them.
What you gather about the economy is 1000% correct. We have more than 6 different exchange rates, and it's a nightmare for turists and exports. Our peso loses value every single day, the inflation rate is of 5% monthly so every time we go buy something it's more expensive, and there are no jobs, so yeah there isn't much hope for the peso.
I hope you had a good time in Antartica and perhaps consider visiting other parts of our country that reflect better on us (if you haven't already).
From what I saw of gas prices yesterday, USA is right behind. The pandemic has not helped the majority of earth’s inhabitants.
No te gastes, dudo que haya estado en Argentina siquiera. Es parte de una operación de no se quién para instalar que Argentina es racista. Tiene muy mala leche y muchos youtubers de este color de piel salieron casi a la vez a decir lo mismo, casi cuando salió la nota de que en la selección argentina había demasiados blancos, te acordas? Sabemos que la gente de BA son una cagada, pero no por racismo.
@@argentinisima La realidad no ofende!
I don´t wanna negate your experience but after listening to you I have the impression that your bad time here had more to do with being a privileged american that being a black person. Some of the things you mention (dog poop, bad service, taxis that don´t stop) are at this point "First World problems" for us. On the other hand you would never understand how shockingly it is for some of us to being called racist by people from the same country that backed up our racist oligarchies, military dictatorships, trained them in torture, murdered left activists and screwed up everything they could until this day. And If you are surprised by the value of our currency and you really want to do some research you will eventually find out that the corrupt goverment that permitted the deprecetion of our money was financed by some factions on Wall St. On the other hand I lived in New York for a brief time and I can assure the US is 100% more racist. Sorry for this political rant but at this point americans calling our country racist should know our common history to understand who´s been the opressor here. I apologize if this comment seems a little bit rude but I think you americans have a huge responsability when it comes to pointing fingers without knowing how your foreign policy actually works and how the whole Latinamerican region would be a lot better place without decades of US intervention. Have a nice time. You seem a cheerfull beautyfull lady. Peace!
The United States AND Argentina can BOTH be racist. Two things can be true.
Sounds not only disgusting, but really uncomfortable. Thank you for warning us.
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Thanks so much, sis. I lived in Asia for nearly 7 years, and Europe the last 6 years. I’ve recently come back to the States and am making travel plans for the “reopening” of the globe. I’m looking forward to exploring central and South America, but you just saved me time and money! I’m over wasting money where folks don’t want me. BANK! Btw, when Erdogan is gone, I recommend everyone to visit Istanbul. It’s a disaster right now, but 7 years ago I would have put it up against any city in the world! Now I’ve gotta check out Mexico City! You’ve got me stoked!🤙🏿
During ww2 the president of Argentina made a comment that sympathized with Nazis. Germany were welcomed to Argentina after that comment. Germany promised economic deals after the war. Many Germany escaped to South America. If you look at the history they eventually kicked out people of African decent out or Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. Couple that with what someone mentioned about the idealism of superiority of Argentinians I would feel uncomfortable visiting there for long.
Peron is the president you mention, Evita's husband. He was friends with Franco (Spanish dictator, Hitler's friend) and yes Nazi simpatizer. Also, a pedophil, he had a romantic relationship with a 14 year old.
But the Afroargentinians were not kicked out, they were killed. When the Independance war broke most of the black enslaved men were offered comissions to fight in the war. They were foot soldiers and sent to the front lines, most were killed there. In all the following wars with Spain, Brazil, and Paraguay similar strategies were used, literally decimating the population. Another problem was the yellow fever epidemics, that killed black people disproportionately.
Wow guys thank you for the hex lessons 🤓
@@idrislife4967 😔😥😤
There are no black people in Argentina.
@@melis6294 Actually, there are.
Wow! I studied abroad in Argentina in 2016 and it was 26 pesos to the dollar I believe back then. I cant believe how much the value of the peso has dropped in that time. I only drove in an uber once back then because there was this big push back from the taxi’s and uber drivers were being harassed so im assuming that has changed with time. I actually had one good experience with a taxi driver, left my phone in the car and she brought it back to me the next day to university 😅. Super lucky, her son and I are still friends on facebook to this day. used to see people get picked pocketed and robbed a lot, so im assuming with the economy it is even worse now. I feel you on the dog pop 😂. My roommate was Argentine but she wasn't from Buenos Aires and we use to say all the time the city is crazy, I have stories for days. Mendoza and Córdoba are so much more chill
I love your storytelling. Given Argentina’s past (acceptance of Nazis fleeing Europe after WWII), I’m not surprised that you experienced racism there.
no other country in the world acceptedmore nazis that the USA. they develop NASA, look for operation paperclip. Nazi escape all over latin america, also chile, paraguay and brazil.
No other country in the world received more nazis than the US…and by far. Look for operation paperclip. Also we never ever had something like KKK, separates spaces for diffeerent colours, or slavery in major scale as the US.
no existe el racismo acá, son todas construcciones suyas, de cosas que sufren en yankilandia. Hay muchas cosas que dice ésta mujer que son por ignorante, porque probablemente haya habido situaciones que ella y su misma predisposición para ser discriminada, haya hecho que quien la atendía la tome como una persona engreída o cosas así. Lo de los taxis, es porque hay cambios de horarios o ya tomaron viajes por radio, hay mil cosas para explicar por un chat de youtube. SU ignorancia hace que malinterpreten casi todo lo que dijo ésta mujer.
I met many old Germans in Argentina who werent Nazis.- Their families migrated down there like many people from Europe and Russia.
Traveling for Black women verse Black men is a different experience! I personally know a few black men from Atlanta Georgia who live in Argentina and they absolutely love it!!)
Hmmm, they be thinking with their lower extremities and just going nuts for the light skin latina so it is not shocking they would disregard any social slights.
@@lbec123 exactly! Same thing I noticed in Columbia!
I was born in Buenos Aires, is the worst part of Argentina, unfortunately is the only city foreigners ear about overseas but Argentina is a really large country with a lot of beautiful other places to know.
As an aborigin descendant I must say you can feel the racism, not directly but in the way most argentinians perceive themselves as europeans, they not even consider themselves latinamerican. I know there was a lot of eurpean immigration centuries ago but they systematically denies the other ethnicities that are part of Argentina too.
Americans are making videos of our countries and always complain. Its not just argentina. They are obessed over us
We know that ignorance is bliss no matter where you go and everyone's experience when traveling is different but what you and your friends experienced is indeed unfortunate and unacceptable.
Argentina literally exterminated their black population and invited mass migration from Italy to "whiten" their population
Yes but that doesn't give her the right to say that Buenos Aires is disgusting and anyone should live here, she even said that people leaving dog poop is not caring about your neighbors... Qué mierda?
It hurts a lot how we are dehumanized by everyone and how they talk about us like we are ALL awful racist people, actually, people is pretty xenophobic with Argentina and it's frustrating how the recall the past in our faces, is not our fault to have that awful people as our ancestors and even if we wanted we can't change that, it's in our blood, just like black people.
@@Sketchy000but we’re not only talking about the past we’re talking about the discrimination still going on now it’s compelty valid to be angry about a country that actively hates on you
That thing with the money is insane. I recently visited Belize and it was very convenient to use the US dollar. The exchange was stable at a 2 to 1 rate everywhere so I didn't have to do mental gymnastics no matter how I paid.
And that’s how I expect it to be. It was way too much.
Mental Gymnastics 🤸♀️ lol 😂 Right
But they do double their prices in Belize as well.
@@sweetpea3472 Belize is an American colony!
Guys, Ubers always cancel in South America. Taxi’s always stopped for me but sometimes refused to go to the international airport during rush hour. I’m a 6’9” black ex 🏈 player.
All these problems I can’t say that I ever encountered and I’ve stayed there for 3 months in 2022. Same in 2019.
The economy is very destabilized. People lack hope. As a person that lives in Rio de Janeiro, I’ve seen a difference in the culture of the Carioca between 2010 and 2022. Many things to consider and learn about a culture when you’re an “outsider”. Everything isn’t racism peeps
And yet somethings are.
Being dismissive of other people’s experiences online doesn’t make you different or special. It makes you a jerk.
“It didn’t happen to me” is different from “it didn’t happen to you”
Take that with you and try to move more gracefully into your future.
You need professional help. So your experience is valid but his isn't. I perfectly know your kind. You're a black Karen. Same shit of a regular Karen. But I understand, I know the US and that is deeply truly the most racist a genocidal country in the world, the systematic killing of black people by police there could easily be considered genocide. I met people that said Argentina is racist cause people wanted to take pictures with them, they are so full of poo that instead of understanding that it's curiosity and flattery they think that's racism. It's mind-blowing. In US even the word black is considered racist. When we really love someone in Argentina we call them negro or negrito. I'm called like that by my closest friends even if I'm Caucasian. But I understand your reasons and I'm sad for you, I'd probably feel and think like you if I'd be black American, you have racerelated post traumatic stress. Like ex soldiers that have panic attack with fireworks. You're confusing real munition with fireworks.
And you! 6'9 ex 🏈 player that lives in Rio? Is that even real? If you're a good cooker I'll marry you 😉. I could cook too 🤔
We were planning a lengthy trip to Buenos Aires, but there were things I read that turned me off. I am not African American but your video sealed it for me. We are planning to go to Panama City Panama instead.
You should go and visit yourself. There is a popular AA blogger who hated Portugal - said she was mistaken for a hooker and all sort of things. We visited the year before the pandemic and had the best time - so much so we’re thinking of buying a place there.
@@LAMaman this, don't let race drifters dictate the places where you will be travelling. On top of that, don't focus on race, because then everything will be racist no matter where in the world you'll visit.
Oh and remember you are visiting another country with a different culture and customes.
I’ve always had Argentina on my list until this video! It is now scratched out. There’s enough racism in the USA. Don’t want to go there and endure it to that level. Thanks for sharing. You are fantastic. You are an inspiration!
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No creas en las estúpideces que dicen los demás porque sos tan ignorante como quien lo dice
Don't let one person on youtube define your life, come to Argentina and see it for yourself.
You should try. Just don't go to BsAs and you'll avoid the 90% of your problems lol
And everything will be cheaper too
Me and my wife (both black) shared a table in the Moulin Rouge in Paris with an Argentinian couple. A man from Argentina asked us to take his picture at Versailles. They spoke English and were very friendly and inquisitive. Thanks for the heads up. We are retirees and have no time for racist countries.
it´s not a racist coutry ....
Hi Shida. It's great to travel freely as Black women but it's important to understand history. Confederate generals and soldiers moved their families to South America after the American civil war, and 100 years later Nazi Germans were on code and moved there too, knowing the stage had been set. Central America, especially Costa Rica fought back against a white supremacy movement called "the Golden Circle" and rejected the racist roaches who scurried further south. They're now generations deep as cultural influencers. It shouldn't deter black women from traveling but history is more present than we often think. Stay safe and continue to enjoy life in spite of them!
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Thank you for explaining about confederate going to south America. I didn't know. Argentinians don't consider themselves South Americans, but more like white Europeans in Argentina. Brazil also tend to separate the dark skin from their small circle of European descendants. ( I have friends in both countries, but it's true. ).
@@meggtokyodelicious Why do you say Argentines don't consider themselves as part of South America? They are mostly white Europeans, though there are a lot of Italian descent with darker hair, eyes, and skin that would be considered ethnic white in the U.S., instead of just white. I think the lack of racial diversity, in addition to the racist immigrants from Nazi Germany, have contributed to the current culture.
Argentinians are basically italians and Italians are notoriously racist horrible people.
Somalia and Ethiopia are great places to visit.
Very friendly countries and people.
Argentina people consider themselves the Italians of South America. I remember the president of Argentina visited Mexico at one point and said Mexico was filled with “Indios” and offensive term referring to Native Americans. Argentina also has Little towns with Nazis that fled over there post war world 2 some say even hitler is down there alive and well
I went to South America in 2019. 5 countries, 7 cities in 10 days. I was looking forward to going to Buenos Aires because of the cycling culture but the people in Buenos Aires and Montevideo, Uruguay WERE rude and it is always a question of “is this racism or is this person rude?” Nope.
@@blancan.8524pero ella es americana, ¿¿porque ella va a viajar hasta africa para caminar?? Si puede viajar para otros países de america
@blancan.8524 🗣🗣 BACK OFF!! SHE CAN WALK WHEREVER SHE WANTS!! YOU OWN NOTHING!! ESPECIALLY NOT THAT COUNTRY! THIS WORLD IS GOD'S, AND YOU'RE A GUEST IN IT! SHAME ON YOU!!! WHY DON'T YOU GO WALK IN AFRICA AND KEEP YOUR SASSY, NONSENSICAL OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!!! IDIOTA!! 😤
**@Roshida, Please don't apologize for your experience! You did nothing wrong!! What you experienced was shameful! And definitely uncalled for! I don't know who those folks think they are, as if they're better than anyone! Definitely not the case! Their nasty behavior will catch up with them in due time, and they will see the error of their ways! Glad your doing so well with all your endeavors!
Stay blessed good sista!! ✊🏾
Exactly, I have heard from Mexicans (nice people) that after living in Buenos Aires, when they return to Mexico, their acquaintances see them as more aggressive but they only say "now I am more direct and I don't have to lower my head."
It's another culture...
Living in Buenos Aires makes you "Rambo"
No sé que es grosero para UD. Pero la gente de las grandes ciudades, como NY o Madrid también las acusan de lo mismo, debe ser que la gente está más apurada y vive más estresada .
Nunca te preguntaste como son tratados los latinos en US, no? Yo no puedo creer LA BURBUJA en la que viven.
It's amazing how time bring on changes. That's why it's good to stay informed and alert.
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Hi Shida! I'm from Buenos Aires. I was really sad while listening to your experience here, and I ask you for forgiveness for that. I know people now is not as polite as they used to be, and well, the economy is a dissaster... This government is distroying it, we're all suffering the situation. But let me say that there are a lot of good people too. If you give us another chance, I highly recommend visiting Córdoba o Mendoza. There, things are quite different from here. I hope my opinion is useful for you. Kisses and see you soon!
los neoliberales de mierda que votaste vos arruinaron nuestra economía endeudándonos y fugando 84 mil millones de dolares, informate bien y deja de hablar pavadas, seguro que sos de los que andan repitiendo que en el gobierno con el que teníamos un poco mas de estabilidad económica se robaron un PBI, ni siuquieras sabes que significa, como se mide ni quien maneja todo el PBI de Argentina
That's encouraging, I will visit some day. I hope its safe for me. UK black British..
@@dannyreal9443 You're better off in Brazil or Mexico especially in the touristy safe parts bro
Imagine taxi drivers and ubers from a country with a bankrupt, collapsed economy and a widespread poverty issue refusing service to potentially wealthy customers just because of their skin colour. Absolute rubbish. I've noticed this strange new trend - specifically Black-American tourists going to certain countries with a "I've been told this is a racist place" mentality and not one single grain of interest in understanding the local mannerisms and demeanor. Prejudice comes both ways, never forget that.
Exactly! Apparently the actual reason and problem is the payment method. I was told that if your payment method in Uber is credit card, they can't pick it up. People need to change their method to CASH and see how different the situation is... Is a sad reality of a completely economically-bankrupt country where the infrastructure is not credit card friendly.
Nothing to do with the color of their skin, but they want it to be it so hard...
@@AnaA2509so your denying there’s racism in argentina at all you sound dumb
@@emmamalarkey2950 You do know what commas and perios are, correct? Because I wouldn't talk about "sounding dumb" with the way you talk. ANYWAY....
NO. I didn't deny that there's racism in Argentina. Of course there is, as there is racism in the entire world. Every country has racism.
Argentina was in the news in the States less than a year ago, due to a Neo-Nazi chapter going public in support of Kyle Rittenhouse (the little f**ker, murderer, highly racist teenager from right here, the good ol' U of S).
What I am saying is that this effort to try to single out Argentina as a "specially racist" place (they make me laugh with the fucking outrage over a 40 min wait, while in the USA black people are getting MURDERED at traffic stops, but I digress), above anywhere else in the whole American continent is at best absurd.
This lady (the one in the video) saying that she had a great time the first Argentina visit, and then a not so great time the second visit and the reasons given are barely mild annoyances that happen to EVERYONE (tourists, blacks, whites and locals alike).
Then in the comments saying that, for example, she visited Milan, Italy and had a great time, when Italy is one of the most racist places ever, SPECIALLY the north of Italy.
Her video is her talking to the camera the whole time, while other black content creators are literally FILMING the streets and the interactions, everything and you rarely see anything other than curiosity and excitement from the people. I've seen dozens of them having all positive experiences, with some small exceptions here and there, but you know what has never happened in Argentina? A black person getting killed for being black.
Something that happens here in USA DAILY. So sure, go ahead and cry a river about how racist Argentina is, while thousands of black people go there and enjoy their time without any issues, and also while in the States they are literally discrimated, harrassed and killed for no reason...
But... This lady had a hard time taking a taxi!! OH THE HORROR...
And we literally explained why that could potentially be, as PLENTY of white people also has had troubles stopping a taxi or getting an Uber... If it happens to everyone, then is rarely a race issue, it's a different problem altogether.
Thanks for the heads-up! I can't envision sliding and hop-scotching from one side of the city to the next. It isn't me. I will not visit people who choose to live with excrement at their feet. Do they burn their shoes when they get home? Wait! Can't they see the revenue stream from fining people not picking up their dog's feces? Regarding racism, my sense of racism is intuitive, like a learned survival skill. I take it for what I sense it to be until proven otherwise (which is very rare). Now, back to my search for videos on crispy fried pork chop recipes... Be well.
Crispy fried pork chops? You’re speaking my language!
Thank you Shida for sharing. I have always wanted to visit Argentina as a big fan of Diego Maradona growing up, but I guess, I will wait few more years. Hopefully their economy and attitude will improve by then
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try visiting now they people there are great and i don’t think you would have any issues
and you prejudices gone too......
Wow… that’s too bad! My husband and I went to Buenos Aires, Mendoza, Iguazu Falls and it was fantastic. I didn’t find anymore dog poop than in Paris - but they do have a lot of stray dogs, so it may not necessarily dog owners. Did you not notice the dog poop the first time? Not sure why you would return if this is a problem. It’s also a country not used to mass tourism. IDK… didn’t have a problem.
The Bronx NY has more dog poop and human cold spit on the sidewalk than anywhere else. To each is their own.
@@franhewling yeah, and i reaaally love NY...but the smell of pis was everywhere, even on the 5th ave (place for the richs, we just pass by jaja), and the rats were everywhere. Its true about poop dog on the sidewalk, but i cant believe is one of the reason to not come back jaja.
Also, it *is* racism. And the customer service is also just terrible.
😂😂😂
Yeah they were down with the Germans too ... You know, after the war...
@@kro0018 Haven for old Nazis...........What a history?
hi, i loved this video, and yes you,re right,as a black person living in buenos airesi said it's terrible, racism all the time, people saw me and start to run after me with chains, and stick to hit me, all the time. I went to hospital, when doctors realized i was black, they live me alone there bleeding, for a week, without food or bathroom. Two times a week, police put me in jail, just because i'm black, is terrible, please do not visit buenos aires again, now i'm in a conteiner locked i just a black person, and people here is racist. Probably deport me to some african country, i'm argentinian, but it does'nt matter, because i'm black.....
100% Victim Complex.
Nah, Argentina really is a racist shithole.
That's what a racist would say
@@estoyentodoslados ahora las actitudes racistas son "costumbres"...por favor! Yo no me chupo el dedo y menos esta abogada que es una world traveler.
I work in a relatively big company (in Belgium) with a lot of expats from all around the world thus it is very interesting and exciting to work in such environment. But.... one of my colleagues is from Argentina....I had a lot of problems with him due to his arrogance and overly inflated ego and to stop those problems I had to threaten to start a legal action against my employer because at the end of the day the employer is responsible for the behavior of the employees he has hired (at least according to Belgian' laws). It worked very well (he got his blame because his behavior was obviously inappropriate). Thus I understand your point perfectly. Concerning racism, I think it is one of the many facets of stupidity and probably the most disgusting one. In fact a racist is a stupid person and a stupid person is usually racist as well.
Yeah they were down with the Germans too ... You know, after the war...
What a good partner you are. Instead of talking to him to make him see reason, you ratted him out to the boss to get him fired. Surely now he's sleeping inside a cardboard box.
@@delpejerrey I guess you haven’t learn you can’t reason with stupid or ignorance!
@@lexi6797 Calling a whole nation racist and Nazi because some taxi drivers didn't want to stop me in such a big city. I would call that xenophobia and ignorance. As an Argentine, I believe that we do not deserve all of these arrogant and superficial comments. I agree with you on something... it is very difficult to reason with stupidity and ignorance. This video is a good example of that.
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Argentina has 23 provinces (states). Buenos Aires is just one city in Argentina. It’s like saying don’t go to America because people in NYC are rude. I honestly been all over Argentina and had a great time. People like to say Argentina is a racist county but they have always opened their borders to everyone. Don’t make your decision based on persons experience. Go visit Argentina from North to South and then make your decision. I will put money that you will have good things to say.
This is such a weird response to “I will not go back to Buenos Aires based on my bad experience in Buenos Aires”
I didn’t say anything about the rest of Argentina.
Shida, THANK YOU for sharing your experience!!! Like you, I've traveled a lot over 30+ years, and avoiding...confronting...and reporting racism has always been something I've had to do. This is exactly why there are certain parts of the Planet which I have NO desire to see, let alone give that population any of my hard earned dollars. Argentina is one of those countries. There are too many stories that have been shared by other Diasporans about horrible treatment they've experienced there. Why would Black & Brown want to pay to experience marginalization and exclusion, when we can stay in the US and get it for free????!!! To the contrary, Mexico is one of my FAVORITE places to visit, and I've been to a number of different cities over the years. I've ALWAYS felt welcome as an African American male, especially since Spanish is my second language. I've made friendships with locals that I've maintained over the years. They honestly seem to like, not simply tolerate, Black & Brown people. Places like this will always get my return business, as well as praise (Side note: I received this positive reception in the 3 Middle Eastern countries I've visited as well, and would recommend them to any Black & Brown travelers: Oman, Qatar, and Dubai.) Given Argentina's horrible history of treatment towards African and Native people, why would we go there???? I'll attempt to post a link below regarding this history, which no one talks about. People definitely need to read up on it prior to going. Again, thanks for sharing your experience! www.ibtimes.com/blackout-how-argentina-eliminated-africans-its-history-conscience-1289381
Very good article. The Paraguayan war was a disaster. Especially for the Guarani people. Never heard that someone in Argentina identifies as white. If it is common to be Tano (Italian) Gallego (from Spain) Russian (the Jewish people) Negro (the mixed race that have some color left) Chinese (any Asian with Chinese origin, Korea or Japan).In reality, most of us Argentines are criollos, a mixture of Native Americnas with European migrations.
What I don't understand is how if the Argentines are so racist, the descendants of Africans were mixing so much.
@Javier Soteras Read the article, again. Black soldiers were intentionally put on the front lines during the Paraguayan war. That killed off huge numbers of male Afro-Argentinos. The returing survivors were pushed and confined to the most squalid parts of Buenos Aires, where they were exposed to small pox and other diseases.... and died in even bigger numbers. If that's not racist genocide, I don't know what is. And let's not even get into el época de Los Desaparecidos!!! More genocide.
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@@delpejerrey that's like asking, "if the Unites States was so racist, why are there so many mixed people." Do you think rape doesn't happen? Do you think that although a country is built on racism, that perhaps SOME of its inhabitants aren't racist? Ignorance is no excuse. You should educate yourself, especially in this day and age where the technology exists to actually be able to learn the truth, instead of just believing the propaganda.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. Argentina is now permanently off my list. My coins are too precious to be spent where me and mine are not wanted.
You shouldn't judge an entire country because of one person having a bad expirience. But, hey, it's your choice. You'll never know what you're missing.
@@MrDiegomakabro I will be just fine. Worry about yourself. I’m good.
@@BaldGirlWillTravel you can check ACE LIVE channel he is in argentina rn and having the time of his life, also he is black
@@facundob.f8606 don’t care. All skinfolk ain’t kin folk. Y’all can keep Buenos Aires. I definitely trust Roshida and the word of other Black Women over yours or whoever he is. Perhaps stop ignoring the experience of black people when we talk about racism.
@@BaldGirlWillTravel okay sorry
As We Say In The U.K……*Blow That For A Lark*…… My Motto: “GO WHERE YOU’RE TREATED BEST”. The World Is a Big Place & There Are LOTS Of Fabulous Countries/Cities One Can Visit and Feel GOOD. Life Is Too Short To Waste Time In Cities That Don’t Respect Or Value People…For Racist, Sexist Or Any IGNORANT Reasons. Not Giving MY Hard Earned Money To ANYONE Who Doesn’t Value Me. Thanks For Sharing.
Una persona de Reino Unido hablando de racismo...el chiste se cuenta solo jajaja.
Well, UK is probably the MOST racist country in Europe...
Thank you for sparing me the misery of traveling to Buenos Aires. I was in the process of planning a trip.
Prefer to enjoy my travel experiences!
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Not the whole Argentina is the same.
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Quedate en tu pais, no te necesitamos
Thank you, never come! We don't need black karens who need attention.
Yall gotta remember Argentinians are Europeans. Enough said. They speak Spanish but don't have that Latin warmth as a whole.
@@curcumagranola5283 People forget that Argentina was a welcoming hub for all the nazis sympathizers after world war 2. Argentina also did an ethnic cleansing of black and indigenous folks. As a black person , I do not understand why some of our folks wants to go to EUROPE and Racist Countries but not supporting Africa and the Caribbeans.
@Island Guy 96 So true!
I am in Buenos Aires right now and I spent close to 5 weeks in Uruguay .
I won't comment on Shida's experience because it is hers ( person, time, manners, language,etc.) and hers only.
I am a Black North American , 50 year old plus and a male.
In the Retiro neighbourhood, about the Cancilleria, I have never seen dog poop but 2 or more blocks away, I can smell urine on the sidewalks or see 1 or 2 people literally sleeping on the sidewalk, sometimes on a cheap foam mattress.
Getting a taxi in Buenos Aires can be hard at certain times ( office closing time) but at least 3 times, as a senior Black man I was able to get a taxi by hailing who not only drove me but was willing to wait for me for short errands and even without my asking offered to pick me up later and dropped me their name and telephone number for future errands.
As to people on the sidewalk blocking my way , I would forcefully and willingly walk INTO their path, so they would have to part away or we would lock into our steps.
Microagressions or microracism acts are worldwide ; my take on this : fight back , don't run away. Jewish people suffered at the hands of Nazi Germany but STILL visit Germany and live there.
Generally, Uruguayans think they are a cut above the Argentinians.
I love Mexico City. I love Zacatecas even more. I just got back from Guatemala and El Salvador. If you get the chance, Metapan in El Salvador is a lovely city. It totally surprised me.
Metapan ❤
I am from Buenos Aires, I live in BA, I am sorry for your experiences, I have to say that I have many friends, from different countries and races, including black people, who told a different story, totally opposite to yours about the people's behaviour. Dog poop is real, but people have improved a lot and it depends on the neighborhood. I also agree with the exchange issue and the economy. As a big city, it has the usual common problems. And you can find a diversity of situations, good or not so good, but it cannot be something to decide not to visit. Anyway, you are welcome again if you want to repeat, and I even offer you my home to stay. Buenos Aires is well worth visiting because of much more positive things than negative. Hugs.
I can't get over that dog shit situation. That is completely disgusting. The country is not so bad that they can concern themselves with dog shit. Speaks to the mentality of the culture. Totally disgusting.
I think some people are just determined to think bad about us and don't want to change their mind, and most of all they don't probe that they are wrong, sorry for them, everybody is welcome here, but to know a diferent cilture is nessesary to habe an open mind, we are not a copy USA, may be some of them where anoyied and got misstreated by a diferent standards of what is considered good or bad education, may be they think they are so much superior to other cultures that everybody who doesn't agree with their concept customer service is surely wrong, we are lucky that in argentina customers are not always right people with good vibes always have great times in argentina. Sorry for those who will never know the real Argentina
Even in the USA there are rough places absolutely dirt places.
@@RA-qb4gl I think it's very unfair to see everything with the eyes put just in one or two isolated items.
Can I meet you in BA if I land on the 30th? I'm a Black man from America and I might come there if I don't cancel my flight.
I live close to Spain ( living now in Portugal) but I won't be going there... when I was last there I was treated fine. But I've heard that Black people these day are not treated very nicely there About 2 year ago I had a 3 hour lay-over there traveling from Morocco and the ticket agents were grouchy and rude to me when I tried to get help on which gate to go to. Top of the list for maybe you may not want to go to if you're Black is CHINA!
And practically most East Asian countries, right?
You have me questioning whether I should stop buying Argentine wine. I love a good Malbec but I no longer wanna give coin if their people are so hung up about being of servitude to black people.
Good point!
You're right! you should buy all USA products where racism doesn't exist at all. OMG.
I had the taxi experience in Barcelona, I had to go into a hotel and asked the bell boy to get me a cab, because I could not get an empty one to stop...I did not have that experience in Madrid....It sounds like racism to me
I want to not like this video because of what you had to endure.
It’s amazing how peoples minds continue to be poisoned about people of color/poor people/anyone different
Thanks for watching!
Some Argentinians can be a bit white BUT they are POOR just like many white Poor Américans .
All those things are so true! I suppose my experience was overshadowed by the fact that I dance and had a sort of built in community. I met people every time I went out and they invited me to their homes etc. I also stayed long term in a guest house where the owner/lady and her family were always looking out for me. I went out with her sometimes and even went partying with her sons! In a way I was almost always with locals and whenever I needed a taxi I asked someone in the restaurant or even a stranger on the street to help me call a cab. Every time I went somewhere I told them upfront I would be using pesos so there was no confusion. Sorry you had a bad experience and It does seem like things have very much declined in that country.
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I’m from the states and have been living here from April 2019 to present. You are correct there is so much dog poop everywhere! It’s really sad that not everyone picks up their dogs poop! The ppl are rude and will not move out of the way. This happens in the small grocery stores all the time and other places. Many ppl have been rude to me in the past three years. Most of the time if I’m speaking English to my children some people will be even more rude too us! On the other hand I have met some very nice people as well. Yes, the inflation is really bad here at the moment. When we arrived her in 2019 you could get 45 pesos for every dollar now it’s 222 pesos to the dollars. If your able to have dollars and exchange to pesos you definitely have buying power! Keep in mind there is good and bad in ever country. We have never had problems with Uber coming to pick us up. Actually the experience for transportation has always been pretty good.
Excellent delivery of a very important PSA to fellow travelers. Use your consumer dollars wisely. Thank You Roshida.
Thank you for going and reporting back, so now I don't have to! You saved me some money! haha!
I went to Buenos Aires about a decade ago..I was with a tour group of Black people within a larger tour group of white people. We hit all the hots spots, Iguacu Falls, San Telmo, the soccer stadium, the steak houses and tango dancehalls, the Recoleta neighborhood and cemetery etc. I had more problems from the WW in our tour group than native Argentinians. We Black folk stuck together as usual. I didn't have any problems from the people of Buenos Aires, but I did from a WW from America who seemed to be upset because a vendor catered to our Black group and not her. Argentina, and Buenos Aires specifically has a very homogeneous population unlike diverse Brazil. I saw one other Black person in Buenos Aires and he was really happy to see other Black people, lol, so that was telling. The economy in B.A sucked in 2010 as well, we were able to get a lot for our money. They even said they would take a check!!!! I ate a lot of beef in South America...a lot! You have to stress well done or they will send your steak out bloody. There were a lot of people sleeping in the streets and that surprised me, but then I reasoned with a crappy economy I shouldn't be that surprised. Argentinians struck me as more self-absorbed vs. Brazilians who are outgoing and friendlier (especially if you attempt to speak Brazilian Portuguese). Keep this in mind when traveling in South America the term, Blaquiemento, which translates to whitening of the race, a practice put into effect by many Latin American nations to attract European to South America particularly after WWII to make SA less black. Our Brazilian tour guide stated that Argentinians we're considered to be "so dramatic" compared to other South Americans. I didn't recall seeing any dogs or a dog poop problem while I was there. Also for reference, the country's past president Kirchner died so the country as a whole went into mourning and had parades, protests etc. It was a different vibe as a result. So in conclusion, I personally didn't have any issues in BA, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they occured.
I have always heard of the anti black in Argentina from years ago, was planning a trip one country in south America as I am retired now well this video just helped me to shorten my list no Argentina for me
Ugh. Sorry you had that experience. Not going there. I’ve been in Playa Del Carmen for a month, staying in an AirBB in Palmas Turquesa. I walk to the market and laundry weekly. The dog poop in this area is terrible, it’s hard to catch a taxi (they ride by empty) , and the WOMEN are rude. One of them actually went out of her way to bumped my 11 year old daughter on purpose. So much room and you saw her! I can’t get arrested in Mexico… so, I’m going to Mexico City next week. If I ever come back, I will stay in Centro.
If you see any posters up for Solemans DJ events in PDC you should go before you leave.
I had so much fun when I was there and met a lot of expats at his event. I don’t remember the name of the Restraunt bar it was at on the main strip. But there were a lot of black people there having fun who live in PDC
and Suleman is such a sweet soul who will welcome you.
Merida is also another great option for Mexico. I just left, but it was a really great experience. The people are friendly, there's a decent-sized black community that meets up weekly. I never felt unsafe. I'm planning on going back toward the end of summer
@@misterniceguy67 I picked an airbnb that was in north Mérida. It ended up being about 20 minutes from Progresso Beach and 30 minutes from Centro. Ubers/DiDis were really cheap so it was still pretty convenient. If you plan to stay a bit I would say pick an airbnb and scout the area. The best prices aren't online, you find them walking around the city.
I am in BA now. 99% of the people are wonderful. But 2 days ago, a young male loser shouted some racial epithet at me while I was relaxing at an exclusive cafe. I guess my apparent affluence was too much for him to bear. Whatever the case, it was an isolated incident that might rear its head again in due time. But again, most people here have been lovely.
But go and tell that, they wont believe you because for a reason they believe we hate a minority which comprise 0,4% of the total population. They like polemics.
Agree 100% - and I am a non-black Mexican woman who lived in Buenos Aires years ago and visited several times cause my ex is from there. There is both racism and poor service, there’s dog poop everywhere, currency exchange is nuts and abusive, yeah to everything you said. On the positive side: Ice cream is delicious, so is pastry, pizza and Italian food. Female friends are the most loyal friends a girl can get and musicians are top tier. But yeah a lot of racist people there… a lot of rude people there… a lot of selfish and arrogant people there. Even Argentinians will agree that “porteños” (aka people from Buenos Aires) are like that. So it is a 100% accurate description of Buenos Aires. Anyone disagreeing is just wrong lol.
Nobody disagrees. It’s a bad reality what we have going on here due to the corruption of the government. But it has nothing to do with racism
thank you for the heads up and saving us the heart ache and cash!
Just wanted to remind everyone of the 70's. Do you know what was on the ground everywhere (especially in New York City) before the laws: dog poop. It was a horror back in the day. Argentina just needs to have laws and fines and then enforce them.
Rashida, you are on point. I lived and worked there and by the Grace of God survived it. I could not wait to get on that plane and Get Out. Horrible experience! I befriended a girl from Africa when I was there. We were both young ladies. She is graduating from the university and asked if I would come to her graduation. I told her virtually, in spirit, congratulation to her via the wind to carry, but, by TMH, I will never step foot, toe, finger nail, breath, ear lobe (U get my point) into that horrible country again!
So many people from Buenos Aires are here complaining loudly about how wrong I am, while making racist comments. But we know.
I had a similar experience with the dog excrement situation in Cannes! You don't have to tell me anything else, haha, that alone kills an entire experience for me.
Just terrible!!! Now you’re making me rethink Cannes. 🤔
Yeah, that shit is disgusting
well, I didn't think the dog poop in Cannes was egregious. Maybe because I was in Nice prior, and went to Marseille afterwards. Take all the dog poop of Nice and Cannes, then add bird poop on literally everything, maniac drivers, hundreds of unemployed young men staking out tourist sites and stations, coupled in with worn-rundown buildings and voila! Marseille, France. Viva la France 🇨🇵 I talk smack because it was not a beautiful city in the slightest, but the people were some of the most hospitable I've ever met anywhere, second only to those of Helsinki, which is also not a nice looking city, for the most part. The hospitality of the people make up for it. People in Cannes are very respectful by the way, and the people in Nice are helpful for the most part. Southern France is the exact opposite of what you will experience with other French people outside of France. No one knows exactly why.
Its funny cos you are talking with your USA privilegies, but your family come from Africa, the most poor continent and you have the pride to talk about things from the 3th world, i hope you know were you are.
😮 I'm so sorry! That is a really crappy experience. I'm so disappointed for you 😩
Argentinean here. We as Argentineans are not allowed to legally exchange our money. That's why the REAL prize was based on the "blue"/ilegal market. Our president then destroyed our economy. We were heading towards hyperinflation. It was not racism, people were having a really tough time. Our only hope back then was to get a foreign citizenship and leave the country. Now, things are finally getting better. We are finally having hope again that maybe we can stay in our own country. Milei is taking the meassures that needed to be taken.
I'm neither black nor foreign and get the same experiences you got with apps like Uber (that's quite common,), customer service in certain places is just not good.. what you mentioned in San Telmo, that's a cultural thing. We would just say "excuse me" and walk by in between people without even giving it a thought, our culture has very little respect towards personal space, we are overly touchy, we don't mind people walking in between us if we are in a situation like the one you described. All the situations you depicted sound like something that could have happened to anybody here, nothing to do with gender or colour.
PS: I'm not a fan of the city of Buenos Aires either, I have moved to a small town away from it for a reason. Just wanted to point out that none of the things that happened to you stemmed from racism. It had more to do with Kitchnerism being in power destroying our currency and freedom and with cultural differences with the US.
Hello, Argentinian here. Thanks for the video, being so polite about the bad experiences and not rushing to call us racists as I´ve seen in other occasions.
Reason 1: This is an issue, it used to be much worse and there are lots of neighborhoods that nowadays have none of that thanks to public dispensers of plastic bags to pick them up and fines against people who do this. I dont know which neighborhood you attended, but I agree that its disgusting, and I think your reading about people not caring for their neighbours is sort of true. I could elaborate more on the last if you like.
Reason 2: The rudeness of people may be due to a cultural shock, we have a really weird way of interacting with each other and to the untrained eye it can all look very rude, agressive, etc. For example, in my group of life-long friends, we never call each other by our names, here are some nicknames we have for each other: "el gordo, el papu, la gordita, el negro, el chichi, el mudo, el chino" Translation (roguh) : " Fatty, dad, the little fat(woman), the black, the chichi, the mute, the chinese" . None of these are understood as an insult, its even more endearing to call someone by their nickname rather than their actual name. The rudeness of some people on the street, like the people that would not move or block the way doesnt sound like something out of the ordinary but its not unpolite if they didnt see you in my opinion. On the other hand, the guy that blocked your way was an idiot.
Reason 3: It has happened to me that 4 taxis went past me (im white as can be, all my family is all italian), this is because sometimes taxis are called to go to a certain location and they dont turn off their marker. It's dumb, yes, but that may be your case + bad luck.
Just one month ago I sat at a bar for almost 30 minutes without anyone coming to take my order, when I realized that I had to go to the "barra" and ask it for myself there, xd.
I understand that being from up there you ask yourself the question about racism and I dont blame you for it, there are some truly racist people here, but Its safe to say that its a minority. I suspect there are concentrations of these racist people from german colonies mostly from the nazis that came here in the second world war. Racism is shunned here, there are a lot of "mestizos" because we are really mixed, but this idea of argentinians being racists or white may come from 2 sources:
- "The porteños" Is a term for the people of the capital city, sadly the cliche for these people is that they feel better than the rest and say that Argentina is european. This can be mistaken for racism but its not, its just a form of nationalism that turns out disgusting for everyone. I have met people like this, but Its safe to say that its not all people from buenos aires, every place has their brand of dumbasses.
- Cultural shock. The argentinian way of socializing is crazy in a way, its hard for a foreigner to understand us in my opinion. The Argentinian is very invasive of personal space generally, not caring to offend, daring to do big leaps of trust between people, and people generally dont take the other too seriously (which is why sometimes people can feel rude and sometimes this can be expressed in the wrong ways, such as not caring about their neighbours). But, as I have experienced bad things, I have also experienced beautiful acts of kindness all over the city. Like shop keepers from my neighborhood learning my name and asking me how I have been doing or trusting me with money, people helping me off the ground after dislocating my knee, etc etc. It's like all places, we cant form our entire view from a small sample.
For some perspective about how the average argentinian is, take as an example the crazyness around football (Soccer, for those that don´t understand anything about the sport ;) ) , No other country has that type of behaviour around a sport, and its more than a sport really, we project everything culture-related to it.
Reason4: True. Nothing to add. God have mercy on us.
Thank you for being so honest. Vacations are costly in terms of time and money. It would really be disappointing for me to spend all that money and time to visit a city where I may not feel welcome. Perhaps when I am retired I can take a chance but not now. Thanks!
When you went the first time did you go with a group of black folks??? You know how people feel about large groups of black peoples they don’t want any part of that no matter how old you are.
Great question.
Louis Vuitton do not double the price of their products or any other luxury goods seller for that matter. It's the huge luxury tax, sales tax and tariffs that the Argentine government impose. Protectionism at it's worst. Unless goods are made in Argentina then they will be hit with the extra taxes, The luxury European companies from fashion to cars to jewellery all take profits out of Argentina further weakening the Peso so the Government is trying to stop the outflow of money!
I am an experienced traveller to define discrimination of ones skin color and being treated poorly in a foreign country the answer is it happening consistently. The locals Energy towards you is a big sign, The way people look at you the non verbals, Customer service, Interactions with people. Too many people of color have had bad experiences in Argentina for it to be just coincidence.
To people who says their grandparents came to Argentina in the 1900: is everything alright back home? If you are going to defend your opinion of a country at least try that is based in a more actual/updated comment (at max 20ys). All countries develop and evolve, and if you compare them with a statement made by someone who came like 45 years ago and you didn't even came here in the last few years it's obvious that there is no guarantee that your comment reflex the actual society. I am not saying there's no racism here ofc there is! But racism exists in every corner of the planet so I don't really get why several people on the comments attack saying that we welcomed Nazis and that we are Nazis 😶 we are kind of tired of that.
If you are going to come here and write something nasty under this comment at least first recall your history classes and remember that none country was a saint when it comes to establish the territory, there were native people murders, slavery, abuse and so on
Well many Nazi fled Germany and went to Argentina so there is no surprise that they have a history of racism. My experience on 2012 wasn't as bad as this but I found the city boring and the food was terrible. Never had any intentions of going back.
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The second-largest community of Jewish outside Israel lives in Buenos Aires, so it is stupid and offensive to say that it is a Nazi Country. Please, respect!
The vast MAJORITY of the Nazis went to United States... So, kindly... Sit down and be quiet.
The German presence in Argentina is rather small, and the few Nazis that did make it, went into "hiding", not proudly displaying their bullshit around.
United States is by FAR one of the most racist and disgusting places in the world (I know, I live in Kentucky), where black people are literally MURDERED on the daily for just existing, but SURE Argentina is problematic because 7 taxis did not stop when flagged (also, PLENTY of comments mentioning that happens to everyone, regardless of color).
That's just it... Everything she mentioned and complaint about are real things that do happen in Buenos Aires, but NOT because they are black. It happens to ALL. It happens to white people, to tourists, to locals, to poor, to middle class... And here you are trying so hard to make it about race, when it's not and talking from places with REAL race issues. Shake my damn head.
I travel to Buenos Aires and never have any problem as you saying, I think people is very nice and welcoming.
This seeems to bea really biased point of view by this lady, I've never head of black people having problems in Argentina.
I mean, bad costumer service in Argentina IS REAL, but that doesn't make it racist. Same thing about dog poop.
Are you a Black woman?
Its great that you are telling your point of view, so that we understand better the argentinian society but:
1- Argentina is a really diverse country
2- Yeah, there are problems with the dollars, you have to work to live well
I'm sorry you had a miserable time, but you're not the first African-American traveler that had a bad experience in Argentina and probably won't be the last, but I hope you had a wonderful time in Antartica.
Shes not african. She's just American. Its an insult to those who are truly from Africa.
@@g718ny She's an American first, African second. If you live in the United States, you should know that is how all Americans refer to all individuals of African descent.
@@g718ny in the United States we refer to ourselves as either Black American or African American. We are of African decent. We live in a country that hates people who have African in their blood their history their appearance. I am very proud to call myself African American and Black America to show “others” that I love my appearance, my culture, my ancestors and I have no shame in that. Black people all over the world need to stop acting like they have shame and proudly claim Blackness and stop trying to be like “them”.
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@@g718ny as an American trust me we don’t claim Africa we hate y’all just as much as y hate us
I stayed in Buenos Aires city for almost 6 months last year. Yes there's a lot of dog poop, yes customer service is slow and can at times be very frustrating. Yes the taxi drivers and most people don't speak English. and yes the economy isn't at its best but if you are earning in dollars or Euros the country can be very cheap for a tourist to visit. It is difficult however to get money in the country if you haven't brought enough cash with you to exchange in the blue rate market, but there is always Wester Union (exchange rate is blue rate) if you are patient enough to do so. With that being said, I still highly enjoyed my experience in the city and met many locals who were kind. I am a Filipino and have definitely experienced racism in other countries around the world but I still try to see the beauty in all the places I am lucky enough to travel to.
I was watching Ace' videos in Argentina and I just came across this
I am really sorry that you have come across evil, racist and ignorant people. Your experience is valid and I fully understand your decision. But like you said, you've already come and had a good time before. So I don't think that because of some people, Argentina should receive so much criticism in the comments of people who haven't even come here.
No country is perfect,, Good luck🙂
I totally agree!
Curioso que la mayoría de los comentarios coincidan, y esque los argentinos no salen de su burbujita de "somos descendientes de europeos ñiñiñi" no mames, espero eso les salve de la inflación, y no, no es hate, ustedes sólos se dan a conocer al mundo
@@kimjongpunk8024 Sí y no, porque mucha gente de muchos lugares conoce buenos argentinos, dentro y fuera de nuestro país, hay una imagen general que no fue establecida por nuestros actos, sino por gente que no nos conoce. Por eso en nuestro pequeño espacio buscamos promover la unión entre naciones y darle voz a toda Latinoamérica como un solo lugar. Los paises no son racistas, las personas lo son, en mi país, en el tuyo y en el de cualquier persona, he conocido mexicanos horribles, pero HORRIBLES con mayúscula, así como mexicanos llenos de amor como nuestros compañeros de Del Café al Tequila, esos comentarios que no suman, solo nos dividen y de eso solo se beneficia la gente mala. Saludos!
Wow…. Sorry you had a bad experience and thanks for heads up.
Thank you for keeping it real !!!
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching. 💛
Thank you so much for saving my time and money!!!!!!! BA has been removed from my list!
Take it offfffff! 😂
Bad for you...... you have to ezperience by yourself not from a stranger
Forget about not caring about your neighbors, they don’t care about themselves since they have to walk on those same sidewalks. Smh
As an Argentinian, I feel so ashamed hearing your awful experiences. But I must say that it´s more likely to meet disgusting and racist people on the streets of Buenos Aires rather than in other regions of my country. Argentina is very big and diverse. I´m sure you will have much better experiences if you travel to other Argentinian provinces, and we have many wonderful places to visit.
I appreciate your view on Buenos Aires, as I'm going there in a few months. I'm a black man so maybe I will experience some of the same as you did. But that being said I'm currently in South America, and I have been in SA for 8 months now. And some of the things you mentioned are similar in the two countries that I have been. That also being said I know Argentina is different than other SA countries (especially the north where I'm currently at the moment) But I have some Argentine friends, and I speak almost fluent Spanish so maybe those two things will make a difference in my experience. I'm also planning to stay longer than two weeks actually a few months so maybe I will have a totally different viewpoint ( for better or worse) But I really do appreciate this video, because I will at least have some things to look for, and will be better prepared before my trip there.
So how did it go Tyson? I'm curious to know, because the way this lady bashes Buenos Aires, when the whole world is pretty much the same, it's astonishing to me.
I live in Kentucky, USA and it's one of the worst places I ever been in my entire life. I also lived 4 years in Barcelona, Spain and THAT is racism if I ever seen it, and not only against blacks.
And I've been to New York and the dirt, piss smell (not from animals), rats as big as cats everywhere and absolute BAT SHIT CRAZY people screaming on the street for no reason is not something that I find appealing, YET I would go to New York any time and I don't do videos online to bash New York, or Kentucky, Barcelona or Los Angeles, etc... Like...
how was your experience in our country? i hope it was different from her's.
@@MHB1989 He is a man so as a black man you will be treated a lot better than a black woman because black women experience racism and misogyny.
I’ve traveled to Buenos Aires with a group of friends, and it is a places that I would NEVER go to again. Being followed in a mall by officers on walkie-talkies, giving updates to each other on our where about was really unsettling. The stares! Never saw 2 Black ppl together, always alone. So, I guess 8 of us got their attention.
Buenos Aires was the worst of all the places that I’ve ever visited.
The stares! I experienced the same in Somalia as a white person. You look different, people will look at you, that's normal, nothing wrong with that.
@@lukecole5056 did you not hear her say police followed her? Did they do that to you in Somalia as well?