Very Few Stoves Can Do This - Snow Peak Home and Camp Burner Stove Review
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- What I have for review is a Japanese Camp Stove from a company called Snow Peak.
What makes this stove so interesting and special? It’s the way that it transforms from a small stove to a rather robust system.
This is my review of the Snow Peak Home and Camp Stove
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Fuel : - Butane Fuel : amzn.to/3oTpWyw
Review Pros :
Very good quality system - nicely made, good construction, good materials, no rough edges - feels substantial with one small exception which I will speak of in just a moment.
Very compact design and it’s fairly lightweight for what this stove offers
The way that it transforms is impressive - it’s rather sleek
Can support pots and pans ranging from 4.5” to 12” in diameter.
Overall performance of this stove is very good - there are faster stoves out on the market but most will be larger than this
Ignitor works very well
Butane fuel at least here in the States is very inexpensive
Once you have the stove set up, it offers a very stable platform to cook on.
Inserting the fuel canister is very fast and simple - there is no locking lever which some may want.
Stove has an interesting feature that I haven’t seen before - it has a copper heat conduit that warms the fuel canister which helps when using this stove in colder conditions. This is important as butane doesn’t perform the best when it is cold.
The flames originate from inside of the burner ring which does help with wind resistant but in windy conditions, some sort of shielding will be needed.
Review Cons :
Pricey - if a compact design isn’t important to you, then there are less expensive stoves out on the market
Unfolding the stove isn’t as fluid and easy as one would expect. I’ve set this up and broke it down hundreds of times and it’s still not a smooth process - the locking pin on the bottom isn’t super easy to push nor is it to locate.
No case is included.
With the adjuster, the stove turns off at 1 instead of 0 - the first couple of times that you use this stove you might want to simmer, you make the adjustment and you turn the stove off instead
While I like the build quality and the materials, there is one slight issue that I want to mention - with the fuel door cover, if you close it too strongly you can overshoot the locking point - it’s a bit flimsy in that regard.
The pot support legs are too far apart to be used with small cups or pots. - Anything with a diameter less than 4.5” and you will have some difficulty using it with this stove
No English instructions are included
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Over the past decade, I've generally come to expect "Made in Japan" means more for quality than "Made in USA" or anywhere else. I don't want this stove, it's just an observation.
I'm not sure who this is marketed at apart from motorbike campers. It's too heavy to backpack, and if you have a car, then cheaper square Coleman style ones are fine. This saves some space, but I'm surprised how heavy it is.
It doesn't really get "bigger" or "expand"... It just comes out of it's case
Wait a minute, this isn't made by Helikon-Tex, Naturehike, or OneTigris.... whoah.
You can get this from China for 60 bucks
@@SAMMIEJONESJUNIORshow me where you found this at for that price
@@silentwolf662 alliexpress
@Austin Daniels and no I am not a robot I have been seeing these for over a year now on alliexpress but did not consider it until I saw this review.
@Freedom1775 you must be young lol they are all made in China.
You get what you pay for and I appreciate the Snow Peak products. Haven’t had any issues with their products. Outstanding engineering & durability.
I like how this video coincides with the new Transformers movie🤣 And yea, for $130 I would straight up be insulted if they not only didn't include a storage bag but expected me to buy one separately.
Luke I did buy this stove for $120 I feel $90 would be more fair. I agree with everything else you said. I did make a small mid gauge screen so I could put a smaller cup on it...works good. Thanks for sharing your videos. Jake McClellan The Oregon Boy 👦
I love your vids! Is there possibility to get test video for budget car tent? Im not sure what u call it, the one that goes in top of ur car!😊👏
That unlock peg does need to be an actual " BUTTON " and it should come with a bag or case for that price - but overall i like this stove
I like it! The $130 would be worth paying. The form factor is what sells me and the copper heating device as well. I have a two-burner Eureka stove in my van and it takes up too much space. I have backpacking stoves but the height factor is not feasible. This Snow Peak would fit my needs. Thank you, Luke!
It seems like it is a good stove. The issue I have is that there are other good butane stoves out there, and although this one is more compact, your use cases are still relegated to Rv, car/suv, and motorcycle/bike camping. For most of these use cases, only motorcycle/bike camping makes sense to get this stove due to it’s compact size. All other cases I would get a bulkier one that has a better simmer control and possibly one that allows for smaller cups to be used. Saving $$ on another model is also of growing importance in this economy.
Nothing cheap about Snow Peak products, even their chop sticks are expensive... With that said, you do get well thought out and quality equipment that is highly regarded in Japan. I have several items from this company and they all perform well, also not being Chinesium is a plus. I don't need this stove as I have too many as it is but it would be a nice addition to a gear stash.
Jap ripoff
You sound like me.
Last weekend I took my old out of the box Olympus stove. Backpacking up the mountain. Just because it has sat for decades, unused.
@@billpetersen298 Nice!
Thank you.for the review. When I went on to the Snow Peak site, they include a caution to NOT use a cast iron pan, as their radiant heat causes problems with the fuel canister. They then offered a covered, aluminum cook pot for about $140. That’s about $110 too much.
The unit has some limitations that seem unreasonable.
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Snow Peak make excellent, high quality products BUT usually very expensive.
@@kwhatten G’day, kwhatten. If you say so. But frankly, their marketing practices left me cold. The open market sifts out what people want.
My best to you.
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Quite uncommon to carry cast iron backpacking and that who Snow peak caters to… backpackers.
@@travisgray1099 G’day, Travis. You are correct. I’m an 85 year old who camps on motorcycle, and canoe. We carry more than backpackers do. I no longer back pack.
There are very nice stoves available today. We’re lucky.
My best to you.
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@@jackvoss5841 the are a lot of good stoves out there for sure. Yet I’m surprised you have found a single burner that doesn’t have a radiant heat issue when used with cast iron. What’s your current stove set up?
The GasOne GS-8300 Spyder is very similar and almost a third of the price. It works great. However, it does not have the copper heater thingy. It also comes with a case.
I posted similar twice and it was removed, also a good TH-cam review
imagine accidentally taking your old bazooka instead of your camp stove on an camping adventure, because it looks like a rocket launcher.
Another con for me after personally using it, is the way the butane connects to the stove. It tends to pop out when i try to close the stove cover. To the point i just dont bother to close it just so i do not disrupt the fuel connection
Now that is a very important con😮
I have seen others do tests on this and other butane stoves and the one thing most have in common is the low "setting" isn't low it's off. That being said I like the "warming plate" under the gas canister.
Luke! Why have I never seen you review Coleman's 533 Dual Fuel Single Burner white gas stove? It's certainly not any bigger than this nor any bulkier to transport considering the fuel. Please give this some thought as I just bought a Coleman this week! Bill from Hewitt, NJ
The cost of this is insane. Over 11 times (with tax) more expensive than normal square cookers of this nature. And they come with hard cases. But its still a camping not hiking cooker. So why bother?
That's actually really cool. I can see in the future there will be copies that both improve on the design and some that are cheap knock offs
Can anyone be kind enough to tell me what kind/brand of cooking pans his using? Been trying to scan old videos still cant find them THANK YOU
a comparson to the various other similar folding butane stoves out there i think would be nice, Is it really worth the near double the price of the competitors?
$130 is quite a bit fro something that is basically for car camping and you will need a different unit for small cups etc., no go for me
These companies can't keep putting their customers on the back-burner. I tried to make a joke.
I have a BRS copy of this stove, it did come with a neoprene case but I had to buy the copper heating plate separately - it’s a loose item that you manually install (very simple) when tempature drops. It seems really nicely made - not Snowpeak quality but still good and it was less than half the price.
As a kayakker that does long distances and overnight camping I think it's a little too big/heavy for my goals, but I quite like it.
Honestly, while the price is a lot (and I'd probably have to pay even more as a West European), but I think the market and consciousness of consumers has been flooded with cheap junk.
There are some genuinely good and cheap items, but the vast majority is just crap to truly be "consumed" (and then thrown away). From clothes, to appliances, from camping gear to tools. We ought to appreciate actual quality again.
(No seriously, even in 'frugal' the Netherlands where Americans experience the remnants of our calvanistic roots and learn to not just buy two new jackets every season we throw away so much junk clothes that the local/national Salvation Army just has to burn most of it as it's 1) too much and 2) usually junk. And that makes me sad)
And I thought you brought with you a mini bazooka...dissapointed
seems great for car camping as long as you figure out a way to put a tiny coffee cup on it.. small like grate or something
$130 a bit steep for my fixed income pocket...but it's about time these type of transformer stoves came out ! Maybe someday I will get one...
Compared to the Jetboil price, I like this stove. It may be a very good addition to my larger two burner stove for use traveling between camps. Thanks Luke.
Stay safe and God bless.
Gas One makes a foldable butane stove for about $40. It be great to see a comparison.
Looks nice. I like the folding design. Luke, your right it should come with a bag or case for the price. And the lack of English instructions is also odd. Also that’s some serious dedication to testing a stove! Thanks for review.
they kinda big at Japan, kinda have it's own ecosystem, also have events where you can with other fellow snow peakers..... and bring whole family. Kinda understandable why they don't really spend much effort on overseas market, but it would be easy to add something little more extra
I like the stove and would purchase if I was in the market for one due to the form factor. However, I already have the typical $30 square butane stove that has been dependable. Thanks Luke!
Multiple Chinese copies of this stove for $25. Some "brands": BRS 99, IMarflex, eebel Camp.
Jeebel Camp.
Thanks for another great review, and an honest one! Appreciate you dude ❤
I would agree that the price is too much, but it works great as a drive-to or short walk in camping situation.
70 for this is over priced. No lock for the can is absurd for the price.
As an Aussie that watches these videos I love the variety of products shown but I do cringe at the prices when I think of the exchange rate, my south pacific "peso" just does not stretch so far. I do get loads of good advice and tips for products I can get here regarding what to look out for etc. Great channel.
I wonder if the BRS 99 is pretty close in performance although the copper heat spreader is quite interesting.
I love Snow Peak gear. Quality pieces
I still like the similar Soto G S320 stove that Luke has used many times. It costs about half of the Snow Peak but same great quality. The copper heating arm is cool, but not for the huge price difference. Its easy to add a copper Moulder strip to most single burner camp stoves.
Great review. Sure it's pricey but I usually prefer to buy once instead of every two months. Was actually looking for an emergency home stove and this one seems to fit perfectly. Thank you Luke 💖
For home get the gas one dual fuel it’s 15,000 btu and $60. I got 2. My wife loves it.
Once upon a time, there was 2 types of people. Those who vacationed in a hotel at the shore....and those who went camping because it was so less expensive. That's not true anymore. Camping gear is out of control these days due to its popularity. Thanks for the review my friend!
Even RV’n at a nice campground with hookups , showers, rec room is close to the price of a motel. Our state park is a bargain for $40 I guess.
I remember seeing, and liking, this stove in some of your other videos. I really like the design and stability. I think $130 is not a bad price for such a well-designed and compact stove. I would, however, expect the carrying case to be included. Great job as usual, Luke!
It was not this stove. It was the similar Soto G stove. Also a great stove.
Holy crap gas is expensive there, 12 cans here in Australia is about $18aud($12usd)
asian markets in the us sell the fuel for $1-2 per can in 12-packs. $40 is what you pay if you buy off amazon.
Still need to try the Firebox stove.
I Would be afraid that the copper plate that heats the fuel container would lend to an explosion of the butane canister..?
the control valve has a safety device that ejects the fuel can if it oveheats.
Where did you get your butane canister cover
Pretty nice stove easy to carry and use. Price is almost what I paid for my white gas MSR stove but I do agree that the carry case should be included along with English instruction.
I like the stove, the form factor makes it easily transportable and protects the stove ring and igniter when in transit. Dual fuel options would make more versatile (butane/propane). For the $$$ yes it should come with a case or carry case with a pouch for spare fuel. The opening and closing could be easily addressed, and it wouldn’t be too difficult to add small wind break fins that fold down off the pot supports, like wise have a way to have some adjustments to the pot supports to help with smaller pots/cups. For me …. The price is the biggest concern, get it down to around $90 and this could be a good viable option for many, not a backpacking stove as it is, but they could change the materials and make a skeleton version out of titanium, which could more than half the weight, yes the price would be more$$$$. Interesting and different stove, a few tweaks could make this a GREAT one.. superb review Luke, thanks for your time buddy.
I have one….performs great! Little fidgety getting it set up!
I am not physically able to go camping, but enjoy your videos greatly. In your description box there is mentioned a vlog I watch a lot. You should check out the steaks she uses. They have a hook on the top to hold guy lines, easy to put in and take out.
A tent stove is perhaps the no. 1 item to make living in the backwoods comfy. The one that seems to get the best reviews is the G-Stove, but its expensive and hard to find now, I have given up on stoves with a window in the side - way too many problems and go black so easy. This is not easy to deal with because of expense. Right now the G-Stove looks best to me. Any chance of a video on proper tent stoves with a chimney?
This is a stove that could benefit from a side-by-side comparison with other lightweight folding stoves. There are a few on the market that have different form factors. Are some of them weaker burners? Which ones are strong enough to allow for full pots from heavier materials? Which ones are stable under load?
Looks like a very cool and good product, I’m sure cheaper knock off versions or similar concept designs are soon to follow
I'm not sure if Snow Peak is actually selling this in the US. I think many of the sellers might be importers, and REI might also be an importer. It looks like a really good stove, but they should include a pouch.
Mmm I think it looks like a great idea but I don’t think the cons outweighs the price tag! I still prefer your Soto cassette stove.
Re- english instructions. I recently purchased one from a large outdoor co-op and it came w/3 substantial instruction booklets in 3 different languages, including english.
nice stove, but cannot beat my 1950/60s Stesco petrol stove, lights when it is cold, hot, and windy :), and you never run out of fuel, always have petrol cars knocking around :)
Thanks Luke for bringing this rare piece to my attention. That's why I'm subscribed.
Would love to see a comparison video against the GasOne gs8300!
Thanks for the nice overview! Just wanted to let you know that Snowpeak has this on their website for $150 with a bag. 😉 Also- those isobutane canisters are sometimes difficult to find and can’t be shipped by air. Getting a 5 pound cylinder of propane is a lot cheaper and lasts the whole summer with heavy use. I really like the size of this though…bummer!
My Eureka SPRK+ stove is half that cost and does have the heat transfer plate as well. It is also has a very high build quality and has a higher BTU rating.
Only 10-11,500 BTU
@@DrDennis The Snow Peak stove is 8300, so the SPRK+ is ~38% higher.
“Ouch” regarding the price and this stove for the most part looks nice enough for outdoor cooking but I’d rather have something not so complicated to set up. Although it’s nice to have for large skillet and meals. But I don’t see myself purchasing this stove if I have cheaper options. As always great review Luke
Luke forget the stove i wanna know what type of hgh you using, hell its not illegal, you remind me of captain America when he was skinny then the next minute he's all bulked up 😂😂😂 alright brother keep up the 🔥 vids coming
It looks too big not sure why you're saying it's so small does not look small. Struggling to close it sounds like a hassle for that much money
An interesting burner the Bulin 3800 more of an infrared burner very hot no flame. Although mine was defective not sure if there are some that actually work maybe worth checking out for your channel hard pass on this snow peak
Looks like a good “Overlanding” setup. 👍🏻
Love your thunderstorm videos. Stove is toooo high!
I'm White gas or Kerosene which is pretty dangerous for the modern camper, and this looks nearly fool proof if it comes with plenty of warning labels.
Why do I think of the 66mm LAW a/tk rocket when I see this stove ?
Exactly my thoughts. Looks pretty cool 😂
The burner design (more efficient, less CO) makes it safe for indoor use, according to SP. I'd pay the extra for that piece of mind.
I like it a lot, but it's at the price range where I can't justify it because I already have camping stoves covered. If it was $100 after taxes and shipping then I might buy it. If it was Under $90 after shipping and taxes..... Shutup and take my money!
Luke, BIG question, if you had the choice..... Soto Stove or the Snow Peak Home and Camp stove. Both you reviewed.
I was thinking 120 would be a fair price but assumed it would be like 200 haha. Glad it’s 120-130. This really seems like the stove I’ve been looking for. I want something to put in the trunk of my vehicle for both camping and saving money while doing Uber! Cookouts and coffee making in the airport parking lot😅. I was initially concerned that it was butane, but it seems like they’ve handled that problem with the copper plate.
I thought of using a Jetboil but I sold mine and don’t want to buy another. My hiking kit just isn’t good for car camping or trying to cook literally anything.
Those stoves are in many sporting goods stores over here. It does seem overly difficult to close and over-priced when I looked at one first hand. Recently I saw a "transformer" heater/stove online -probably from China. It looks like the heater is in the same class as that smallest butane heater you use for truck camping. To transform to a stove, the heater just tilts back on its base until the burner is parallel with the ground 🙃. It would be cool to see a review on that for the novelty factor and to cut through some dubious Amazon reviews. Anyhow, the stove heater combos look interesting. I've seen Chinese knockoff of this Snow Peak for about 40 USD, so I doubt I'll be picking up a Snow peak, regardless of quality difference.
Butane is very cheap. You can get 12 cans for $18AUD (about $12USD) right now in Australia (BigW). You can get adaptors for isobutane stoves/lanterns. I think this stove is a little too expensive for what it is.
$130 .. it's not made in some Sweat Shop. Japan is a First World Country where their Citizens are able to enjoy a good Standard of Living.
Ease of use .. difficult perhaps for dummies or the spoon fed.
Pot diameter. It's not a 'backpacking' stove. However, some lateral thinking would solve that.
Looking at it .. looks good and if I was in the market for such a product, I would seriously consider it.
Don't think I would go that much for one of those. The $30 ones would serve just as well for overlanding or car/truck camping. A real pet peeve for me is all of these "backpacking" stoves, burner holders, etc., that the very pots and cups that a backpacker would use won't fit on them!! I just don't think backpackers haul 10" or 12" pans with them(?) I bought a neat little stand for a trangia burner that breaks down pretty flat and is lightweight, but it won't hold small cups or pots either!! So I am trying to make some add on pot supports so I can use my 750ml Toaks pot with it.
Snow Peak makes amazing stuff. Love watching their live videos on Instagram when they roll out new items.
I would be interested in how this compares with the GasOne 8300 folding unit. Same form factor. Comes with a case. $50..so a much better price.
This stove looks like it is North Korean army surplus with a whopping price tag to boot. Folks - if you are going car camping just get a Coleman 2 burner propane stove starting at $50 at Walmart. If you want the best car/cabin camping stove, get the Coleman two burner white gas stove that is still Made In USA for around $180. If you plan on cooking a real meal for a family rather than just heating up water, you will really need a two burner stove. Cheers!
Compared to my alcohol stove, I think mine is better. When the fire is on I cook then. I only boil a cup of coffee.
Think your Cons were prety minor, Luke. $130 isn't a lot to pay for something that is well made, does the jobl, and you're probably going to keep for a few years. Take a little care when closing that cover or when breaking the stove down and it'll be fine. As for the size pots you can use, well, it's not a backpacking stove and you're probably going to be cooking for more than one, so boiling a larger container of water shouldn't be an issue. No instructions in English shouldn't be too much of a problem, it doesn't look too hard to work out. If you are having a problem working it out, perhaps camping isn't for you? Heh-heh. Thanks for all you do though, mate, and I look forward to your next video.
It's $ 188.62 Canadian on Amazon Canada. Nice stove. Too expensive for a friggin' Butane stove ! 👎🏻
You say it’s small? In my world it’s not. It’s actually huge for backpacking purposes and you still need to add the bulky gas cylinder.
You seem to have changed your focus and are constantly promoting kit, much of which is not for hiking / backpacking.
It's very nice although not a patch on my Coleman Sportster 533 duel fuel. Yes, it requires maintenance but, it's solidly built and economical to run. Why don't you review one?
What about on a hot day? Does the heat transfer warm the canister too much? Those cans are made with blow out safety vents for a reason.
Can you easily disable the heat transfer system? If not, their rev 2 stove should let you pivot the warm plate away from the canister.
Arizona has about 9 months of summer, so this issue is quite important.
Overall, it seems like a way to shrink the size of your Jeep shtf kit, but at a cost. At around $60, I can get a quality 12,000 BTU rectangular butane stove with a propane adapter.
Got this 1 year ago here in Japan, cool, nice shape but way TOO heavy, it ended up using it as table stove when cooking Japanese "nabe" at home. Probably car camping not for backpacking.
$130 for a Japanese designed, Made in Japan, butane stove is a premium I'm willing to pay.
Don’t mean to be cheap but $130 for a stove that I can’t even make a cup of coffee on is deal breaker. My Stanley 2 cup cook set with alcohol burner is my faithful companion.
what little Snow Peak I have has been really good except one item that came dented
I figured that happened in the retailers warehouse
but it's a small dent and wasn't worth the trouble of mail-order exchange
yeah, it's a bit $$$
I have yet to have a butane stove...
You been working out, man? Looking buff! I can afford a SnowPeak spork!
Since I own this stove and since cons that I have experienced weren't covered in this review I'll add my two cents.
This stove has two potential problems that may catch you with your pants down and both are related to gas canister attachment system.
The thing is some canisters are made from metal that is not very magnetic and so there's no way you going to make such canisters to attach since this stove it using magnet.
Another issue is with their "safety mechanism" and it's rather common problem that I experienced as well. There's little safety pin that tends to make canister disconnect randomly.
I had to completely remove it and ever since attachment was rock solid for me. That being said you still need canister that is made from a fairly ferromagnetic metal or else it won't hold.
This is interesting. Snow Peak is well known for their light weight backing gear. I’ve never seen their camp gear before…..
I got this stove and it is excellent and the drawback is only slightly heavy and it is not suitable for backpack camping.
Great review. Nice product. Big price but if it lasts !!! It may be worth it. But that almost $200 cdn. Wow
For heating up food/water in smaller pots or cups a small 4" X 4" square grate to place them on would help. Yes, it another item to pack but better to have when needed than not have.
I would like it better if it had its own 8oz tank that ran on gasoline. Like Coleman’s dual fuel. Gasoline is by far the cheapest fuel..
Another OUTSTANDING review Luke! Your list of cons are a show stopper for me, especially given the amount of nice butane stoves available at a 1/4 of that price tag. I also noticed its made in Korea, but Snow Peak is a Japanese company. (2.57 in video)
Two serious cons weren't mentioned though.
I like that it stores small but that price doesn’t make sense. There are stoves smaller than my 2 burner Coleman that I’ve been looking it for less than $40.
LAW/RPG camping stove.. modern day version of the gulaschkanone
Not sure if you have reviewed products from campingmoon, but I would be interested in your thoughts on their products.