All those who allowed this injustice to happen and turned a blind eye to the events should now be brought to Justice, they must not be allowed to get away with their crime.
Including the secretaries typing up the meeting minutes etc? They know more than most - like the administrators, engineers, and train drivers for Hitler did, how far down the line do you go?
what I find shocking is that did they think from the several thousand postmasters a few thousand were thieves .. the pattern would have clearly stood out as something wrong
People are being fooled over this CBE. A more suitable penalty would be for her to hand back the bonuses she was paid despite heading up an organisation that was covering up a travesty of justice.
Too little too late. My heart breaks over the damage that has been done to these people and their families, the accusations of fraud ran through their communities like poison. Nothing the establishment can do will ever put this right I have followed this story from the very beginning I’m just stunned at the sheer level of arrogance and lack of self awareness when it comes to the people who were supposedly in charge.
She did all this whilst being an ordained priest, she literally stands there each Sunday telling people to be humble decent and honest knowing that she maliciously prosecuted thousands of innocent people. Its not just criminal its evil
My last post should have read Davey. Nobody mentions Andrew Bridgen who has been campaigning for at least 10 years. He has brought it up in Parliament and to The Select Committee.But was ignored.
Who were the people at Fujitsu changing the figures? And why were they allowed to do it? It wasn't a glitch in the system, it was people playing god with other people's money.
THE PEOPLE AT Fujitsu, the IT team were testing the software, and they discovered that they could login to any sub post office system and change the figures to make it look like there was less money in till, and possibly transfer the money somewhere else!!
It’s other peoples LIVES not money , 4 people committed suicide over this, and many others suffered permanent loss both financially and to their relationships .
If the postmasters didn’t embezzle the money what happened to it. Were IT staff at Fujitsu siphoning it off? We haven’t heard anything about where the money went. And anyway, when these postmasters were accused of taking the money where was the evidence in their bank accounts or purchases they made to prove they took it?
A quick reminder that Cameron, the new Foreign Secretary was PM Nick Clegg was deputy PM Vince Cable was the Trade and industry minister Ed Davey, the leader of the Lib Dem’s was the Post Office minister
The Fujitsu CEO in 2014 is married to a government minister. The Crown prosecuted the PO staff. Did the Queen not take an interest in her Post Office and court cases? Tories gave the boss her CBE. The Tories kept giving Fujitsu contracts. It's almost as if the people with titles are protecting eachother.
Only if the public keeps their eyes on the issue. There'll be lots of diversionary news coming our way such as minor Markle stories and culture war stuff.
True, it’s too little too late. Those who are still here, have struggled all this time after losing their livelihoods, they are never going to get that back.
How do you compensate for a ruined life and having lost everything including your house, or having to live with the suicide or a family member innocently convicted of a crime?
@@edwardhammond5582 7 figure payouts. It can't undo the pain already but it can help pick up the pieces for those still living the nightmare. Cash should be their last worry to live on for this .
The point off an honour is to award, somebody who has dedicated a life’s work with exemplary service to the country. This CBE was awarded in full glare of this travesty of a miscarriage of justice. And is an insult to other people who has been awarded this honour. It should never have been awarded and that is why it should be returned.
Quite right...the people who deserve the awards are the ones who have suffered in this travesty.....but If I was one of them I'd tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
I actually sat and cried ALOT when I watched the 4 part series on this atrocity. What all those people were put through was horrendous. It’s been 20+ years since this first happened why it’s never been resolved is beyond me. Each and every person deserves every penny they have lost to be paid back, all costs of lawyers fees or any fees for that matter to be reimbursed, they also deserve compensation for the suffering they have went through. Anyone who went to prison to have their sentence overturned as they were sent there because of a lie. I could go on and on. I am sending prayers of love and healing to all involved, in Jesus name 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Comfort, are you for real. There will be no comfort until these people are held to account. Some prosecuted, using their life savings, their homes, only to lose their case.
So you know about software bugs in the routines then which can start only in a certain condition.Horizon software company was the sole maker of the program not her,read my comments above then think again,Microsoft has many upgrades to install their software more than Horizon software company,that lady is not resonsible for the software bugs,go back to the makers first then complain.
Vince Cable was typical yesterday trying to say there's no point scapegoating and deflecting accountability from his privileged friends. All those on the Board under Vennels who played a part in the prosecutions, all the lawyers,all the investigators should be prosecuted to the same extent that they victimised the postmaster.
Giving back her CBE is an empty gesture, if she had an ounce of decency she wouldn't have accepted the CBE in the first place! She's a bloody disgrace and likely guilty of criminality, she should face the same courts the organisation she led illegally dragged sub-postmasters through.
Just watching about the post office scandal, this vennells dangerous woman should be in prison, and she should've have her CBE AWAY FROM THIS VILE WOMEN her absolutely scandalous what these poor people had to go through
Paula Vennells doesn’t care about what happened… she would not have given the CBE back had there not been a petition and if the documentary had not generated such exposure…
Giving her CBE back does NOT show she is bothered about what happened. It shows only that public pressure has worked. If she truly cared she would return her £5m leaving 'bonus'.....or donate it to the people she supposedly cares about and feels sorry for....
HT F do you get 700 post office workers / franchisees all of a sudden become corrupt all at the same time and it Disney ring alarm bells and red flags all over the gaff - give back her little award and the keys to the cell she should be in .
They knew perfectly well this couldn't be the case. They knew there was a huge glitch in Horizon and that is why they had these geeks going into the system at night trying to fix the problem. It makes my blood boil - They knew these poor people were innocent and lied and lied to save their own sorry skins. B. Disgrace and totally unforgivable.
@@dizzykat9524 your right and the irony is that nobody will go to jail for this when there should be a queue of people who obviously knew from the start that this was all BS - heads should roll but won’t.
Others went to prison, had lives destroyed, ended their lives and we're supposed to believe giving back an award is a major sacrifice. What did certain people know, when did they know it and what did they do with what they knew? Some people are responsible for this travesty and they need to be held to account including facing prison or civil liability at least.
Exactly, as if sending back a trinkett is supposed to make everything OK. She and others should go to prison but we all know they won't. The "shame" will be deemed a big enough punishment, and after all, lessons will have been learnt.
Exactly! Lots of money in Fujitsu contracts, millions over how many years ? And to how many other organisations ? No one would have wanted to buy a defective product . How many knew and benefitted from ruining other people's lives ?
She should also give her multi million pound leaving pay to the 700 people who suffered at the hands of her lack of action . Bottom line, the person at the top are ultimately responsible, that's why, allegedly, they get obscene wages.
Your following the wrong leader in this thread,Read my comments above then think again,she was NOT a software writer and the rest of you in this thread should be ashamed of your selves picking on some who does not know software problems.
Bugs in systems are common. The inexcusable part is that Fujitsu did not support the system after go live and admit the issues and work through the bug fixes openly and honestly. This wouldn't have come from most devs or testers, they are often told to cover things up by top management.
If the system requirements weren't specified adequately and correctly then the fault lies with the Post Office and not so much with Fujitsu. You would need to know what happened in the planning meetings to sort that out.
@PeteH0121 the IT team had discovered they could login to any sub post office computer system without the postmaster knowing about it and cause the till to show less money. Simply means the money could be transferred somewhere else !!
@@PeteH0121The system was unstable which could cause it to fail to record transactions, record them multiple times, or record only one side if the transaction. There were design problems as well which may have been tracable to bad requirements, but Fugitsu would be at fault if the implementation of the design (the coding) was shoddy.
@@david672orfordHa ha. If it was unstable, how on earth did it get clearance to be released into the Live environment. Incompetence at it's finest. I've av=ctually heard that the relationship between Fujitsu and the Post Office needs close examination too. It would be difficult to unravel this one even if there was ever any intention to do that - which I doubt there really is.
Quite right Michelle, dig down to the actual people who did the job, their QA, the overall department heads; their bosses. But that rule should apply to everyone inc MPs, journalists, bbc, etc. Handing her CBE in is exactly as you, Michelle, put it, she knew the harm it was all causing and chose to ignore it. Exactly the same as so many other quislings in this country though many not even realise they are quislings - power of marketing and media eh
These honours that are being dished out to all sorts of "failures" needs to stop, it's a joke when you look at so many failures recieving honours for second rate performances. What do you think "sir tony"!
Just finished watching this series, seems like a reflection of todays society, those with power looking down on the little person. The more Woke you are the least you really care.
How can this happen that. Man said it Happens when there's Criminal Curruption every where from Top to Bottom ,And All involved aren't brought before the Courts and in prison .
You ask why the engineers didn’t speak up? They wanted to keep their jobs and had signed confidentiality clauses in their contracts. I’m a retired pentester, and on many occasions we found major issues in different systems, whilst the business just wanted a “rubber stamp”. On many occasions when submitting our findings we were dismissed and told to delete our reports - not an uncommon occurrence sadly.
"Many faced financial ruin, breakdown of relationships, and several deaths by suicide have been linked to what was described by British barrister Jason Beer as 'the worst miscarriage of justice in recent British legal history'" Viva Filistin!!! Est. since by british balfour 1917.
Paula is dead right about the details she has mentioned, there are definitely people whom have gained great wealth and power from this and therefore they are responsible and should be held publicly accountable.
@j4wn so are you saying the every member of government since 1999, every board member or manager of the RM, and every single member that served under any DPP is also complicit in this too? Not the smartest cookie are ya
Jim says….. Fujitsu also was awarded the contract to roll.out the National Ping Alert last year, another “world beating” system like Test Track and Trace. As you know this sank without Trace a few weeks after it was introduced, as did the £37b cost to the tax payer. Fujitsu’s “Ping” was a “steal” at a mere £26b to the tax payer. Fujitsu sub contracted this job to a company called Infosys, which happens to be owned by a woman. This woman just happens to be the wife of… Rishi Sunak. Ker Ching! Where has all this money gone? Come on BBC, let’s have some of that investigative, traditional and impartial journalism!!
Mp's need prison for taking bribes from Fijitsu for installing the system, CPS for going ahead with dodgy prosecutions, police for persuing it so rigorously, minister for public prosecutions, all go to prison & heavy fines...
A sacrifice???wtf?? A sacrifice is losing your child, your spouse, your home, your reputatiom your livelihoood. Not being called my lady or maam or dame is NOT A SACRIFICE.
Allowing the post office to investigate themselves, and to be its own law enforcement arm is absolute madness. And where were the basic rights of individual citizens? Do they not have some protections in the UK?
Well done M D always enjoy listening to you straight talking very little BS i know that you can't be 100% as you would be put on the fire like poor Katie H
Although everyone wants to see justice, for all of the Post Office workers, caught up in this terrible Scandal, in respect of what they have lost, it all seems too little too late.
I think a major part of this is that when these people take their jobs they don’t see it as working for the people of Britain but for the government or the state. Everything she did was with that in mind. She thought she was doing what she was there to do - cover up for the government or the state. She never thought for one moment that she should have the benefit of the people of the United Kingdom as her number one priority. She was rewarded for the cover up, so her instinct was correct!
Corporations need to know they are not above the little people they come from the little people they are not untouchable, you will be brought down, Paula Vennells is self righteous and has only given up her honour under public pressure, it means nothing and she is one of many more involved in the destruction of innocent lives 😢
wouldn’t be surprised! Fact is back in early 2000s he was on a bender with the war in Iraq and supporting Bush & all the weapns manufacturers. . How did Dr David Kelly, the British weapons inspector whistleblower in all this ‘weapons of mass destruction’ lunacy fare? He was suicided by the state.
The government could be a lot quicker to clear the post master s name they didn't break the law just getting the interest of the money if it was cleared next week they get paid
Paula Vennells should be in jail and face the same treatment the Horizon scandal victims suffered.
100 % correct.👍
She should face Justice fairly.something as the CEO of the post office she denied so many people off.
Yes I agree hiding behind that white collar she is a liar she has blood on her hands lock her up
so should vince cable ed davey and jo swinson lib dem fools
@@Varley-k1n What?
She could hand back the £5m payment she received when she stopped being the Post Office Chief Executive.
All those who allowed this injustice to happen and turned a blind eye to the events should now be brought to Justice, they must not be allowed to get away with their crime.
The cover up nearly worked hard lines PO
Including the secretaries typing up the meeting minutes etc? They know more than most - like the administrators, engineers, and train drivers for Hitler did, how far down the line do you go?
what I find shocking is that did they think from the several thousand postmasters a few thousand were thieves .. the pattern would have clearly stood out as something wrong
Yes, all the shareholders (owners of the business).
"How far down the line do you go"?
All the way to the gates in the case of the train drivers....@@pks15032
People are being fooled over this CBE.
A more suitable penalty would be for her to hand back the bonuses she was paid despite heading up an organisation that was covering up a travesty of justice.
her list of crimes would put a normal person in jail for 10 /15 years
@showlett33 As awful as she is she's a scape goat for throw lawyers, politicians and big business figures above her
@@showlett33 more appropriate would be 22 to 25 years sewing mailbags in jail!!
Ex chief proved herself as Sir Tom’s daughter £ 5 millions not a bad amount.
And criminally investigated.
Paula Vennells should be in jail so should Ed Davey.
And Farage, he refused to raise it when he was MEP.
And Starmer.
Giving the CBE back should be just the start of it for her , she needs prosecuting and financially held accountable
So true !
we have to have the Rule of Law First,
Too little too late. My heart breaks over the damage that has been done to these people and their families, the accusations of fraud ran through their communities like poison.
Nothing the establishment can do will ever put this right I have followed this story from the very beginning I’m just stunned at the sheer level of arrogance and lack of self awareness when it comes to the people who were supposedly in charge.
Vennells life has not been ruined, she is still wealthy.
Correction ‼️
… VERY wealthy.
@edwardduff4746 Except that she won't...
She did all this whilst being an ordained priest, she literally stands there each Sunday telling people to be humble decent and honest knowing that she maliciously prosecuted thousands of innocent people. Its not just criminal its evil
@@showlett33 Ha yes talk about religious hypocrites, she's the definition. She's twisted demented etc
Returning home CBE doesn't affect her or anybody's health. But she is not going to return £ 5 millions. Bloody hell.😈
My last post should have read Davey. Nobody mentions Andrew Bridgen who has been campaigning for at least 10 years. He has brought it up in Parliament and to The Select Committee.But was ignored.
Who were the people at Fujitsu changing the figures? And why were they allowed to do it? It wasn't a glitch in the system, it was people playing god with other people's money.
THE PEOPLE AT Fujitsu, the IT team were testing the software, and they discovered that they could login to any sub post office system and change the figures to make it look like there was less money in till, and possibly transfer the money somewhere else!!
It’s other peoples LIVES not money , 4 people committed suicide over this, and many others suffered permanent loss both financially and to their relationships .
If the postmasters didn’t embezzle the money what happened to it. Were IT staff at Fujitsu siphoning it off? We haven’t heard anything about where the money went. And anyway, when these postmasters were accused of taking the money where was the evidence in their bank accounts or purchases they made to prove they took it?
@andrewbogle3350 THE POST OFFICE TRIED TO COVER THEIR TRACKS BY NOT LOOKING DEEPER INTO IT. IN CASE THEY FOUND THE REAL ANSWERS!!
@@stoicsceptic8420 True very true.
A quick reminder that Cameron, the new Foreign Secretary was PM
Nick Clegg was deputy PM
Vince Cable was the Trade and industry minister
Ed Davey, the leader of the Lib Dem’s was the Post Office minister
And Tony Blair instigated the whole horizon system in the first place .
The Fujitsu CEO in 2014 is married to a government minister. The Crown prosecuted the PO staff. Did the Queen not take an interest in her Post Office and court cases? Tories gave the boss her CBE. The Tories kept giving Fujitsu contracts. It's almost as if the people with titles are protecting eachother.
@@andrewoliver8930 surly that coulnt be the case would it
@@andrewoliver8930 the monarch does not or cannot get involved in court cases
Exactly @@darengardner6219
It’s the least she can do to hand back her CBE. She needs locking up for criminal activity! It’s a disgrace.
apparently she will, but the thing is it's only the Monarch who can take it away, so her handing it back is just a gesture
@samuelcraig she should've had it taken away from this horrible dangerous woman
@@lindark28 100%
Giving back the Gong means nothing.
She handed it back before it was taken away!
Sir Ed Davey was awarded his knighthood for ‘Political and Public service’, you couldn’t make it up!
Starmer is culpable as well.When he was DPP he should have realised that something was very wrong.
She needs to be put under the same pressure as to what she put these people under
Now focus on who gave her the CBE in 2019 when the PO Scandal was known for years !!!
I agree, heavy prison sentences are in order.
Stage 1 complete.
Stage 2 Police investigation and judgment in court.
Only if the public keeps their eyes on the issue. There'll be lots of diversionary news coming our way such as minor Markle stories and culture war stuff.
How can you compensate those driven to SUICIDE by this disgraceful scandal?
YOU CAN'T.
True, it’s too little too late.
Those who are still here, have struggled all this time after losing their livelihoods, they are never going to get that back.
She should be in prison , nothing more and nothing less , 10 years at least .
It should be 15 years imprisonment.
@@errolbaptiste and what about the Sub PO masters who committed suicide, THE EVIL WOMAN DESERVES ALEAST 27 TO 35 YEARS IN PRISON.
Not only her, several of her underlings too
He’s right .. tangible but does not pay for all those lives bludgeoned on their door step
A disgusting thing allowed to fester by the UK government for years at the cost of lives...
Compensation for them all and a real amount.
How do you compensate for a ruined life and having lost everything including your house, or having to live with the suicide or a family member innocently convicted of a crime?
@@edwardhammond5582 7 figure payouts. It can't undo the pain already but it can help pick up the pieces for those still living the nightmare. Cash should be their last worry to live on for this .
if ITV know who were at fault in POST OFFICE MANAGEMENT, then why haven't the culprits been arrested & charged by POLICE?
Vennells needs to go to prison....but she won't the establishment looks after it's own.
Nothing more to lose she shud b in prison
Is there a petition for Ed davey to resign and kier starmer ?
@@johnkitching2248 ok leftie
@@johnkitching2248 only a leftie would have issue with spelling there gods name wrong
@@johnkitching2248 it's great I love to wind up lefties
Dave Cameron, Adam Crozier etc. Who is still giving government contracts to Fujitsu?
@@andrewoliver8930 the government they are all crooks and liars no matter what side is in power
The point off an honour is to award, somebody who has dedicated a life’s work with exemplary service to the country. This CBE was awarded in full glare of this travesty of a miscarriage of justice. And is an insult to other people who has been awarded this honour. It should never have been awarded and that is why it should be returned.
Well said!
Quite right...the people who deserve the awards are the ones who have suffered in this travesty.....but If I was one of them I'd tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
I actually sat and cried ALOT when I watched the 4 part series on this atrocity.
What all those people were put through was horrendous.
It’s been 20+ years since this first happened why it’s never been resolved is beyond me.
Each and every person deserves every penny they have lost to be paid back, all costs of lawyers fees or any fees for that matter to be reimbursed, they also deserve compensation for the suffering they have went through. Anyone who went to prison to have their sentence overturned as they were sent there because of a lie.
I could go on and on.
I am sending prayers of love and healing to all involved, in Jesus name 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
she should receive a prison sentence
MP's should be in prison.
We need a return to the Rule of Law and hold people in positions of responsibility, Personal Accountable
All those who have been in the post office sarga should be prosecuted
Comfort, are you for real. There will be no comfort until these people are held to account. Some prosecuted, using their life savings, their homes, only to lose their case.
236 innocent sent to jail
She should be in court facing charges
We should stop rewarding incompetence and corruption.
So you know about software bugs in the routines then which can start only in a certain condition.Horizon software company was the sole maker of the program not her,read my comments above then think again,Microsoft has many upgrades to install their software more than Horizon software company,that lady is not resonsible for the software bugs,go back to the makers first then complain.
Michelle dewbury is saying what vast majority think. Respect for her 💯
Isn't that the investigated investigating themselves because they're all involved
Vince Cable was typical yesterday trying to say there's no point scapegoating and deflecting accountability from his privileged friends. All those on the Board under Vennels who played a part in the prosecutions, all the lawyers,all the investigators should be prosecuted to the same extent that they victimised the postmaster.
She needs to go to prison
She isnt bothered otherwise it would not have happened.
Giving back her CBE is an empty gesture, if she had an ounce of decency she wouldn't have accepted the CBE in the first place! She's a bloody disgrace and likely guilty of criminality, she should face the same courts the organisation she led illegally dragged sub-postmasters through.
Just watching about the post office scandal, this vennells dangerous woman should be in prison, and she should've have her CBE AWAY FROM THIS VILE WOMEN her absolutely scandalous what these poor people had to go through
The longer this goes on the greater the retribution on those that allowed it.
Paula Vennells doesn’t care about what happened… she would not have given the CBE back had there not been a petition and if the documentary had not generated such exposure…
Giving her CBE back does NOT show she is bothered about what happened. It shows only that public pressure has worked. If she truly cared she would return her £5m leaving 'bonus'.....or donate it to the people she supposedly cares about and feels sorry for....
She couldn't give a monkeys'about the "little people".They think we are all stupid,and deserve contempt,Their only problem is being exposed.
*Next investigation . . . . . .where’s the money?*
Aninvestigation should name shame and prosecute, all involved , they have lied, and perverted the course of justice .
They are criminals.
HT F do you get 700 post office workers / franchisees all of a sudden become corrupt all at the same time and it Disney ring alarm bells and red flags all over the gaff - give back her little award and the keys to the cell she should be in .
They knew perfectly well this couldn't be the case. They knew there was a huge glitch in Horizon and that is why they had these geeks going into the system at night trying to fix the problem. It makes my blood boil - They knew these poor people were innocent and lied and lied to save their own sorry skins. B. Disgrace and totally unforgivable.
@@dizzykat9524 your right and the irony is that nobody will go to jail for this when there should be a queue of people who obviously knew from the start that this was all BS - heads should roll but won’t.
Even though she sent back the medal she is still a CBE. Only King Charles can rescind that honour.
To hell with Vennells honour, she should loose her pension and in all probability should be in prison.
Has she handed back her bonus? why a big bonus for not doing her job properly? it stinks.
Congratulated for giving her CBE back! You must be joking.
Others went to prison, had lives destroyed, ended their lives and we're supposed to believe giving back an award is a major sacrifice. What did certain people know, when did they know it and what did they do with what they knew? Some people are responsible for this travesty and they need to be held to account including facing prison or civil liability at least.
Exactly, as if sending back a trinkett is supposed to make everything OK.
She and others should go to prison but we all know they won't.
The "shame" will be deemed a big enough punishment, and after all, lessons will have been learnt.
The only question is which government minister were Fujitsu bribing?
Exactly! Lots of money in Fujitsu contracts, millions over how many years ? And to how many other organisations ? No one would have wanted to buy a defective product . How many knew and benefitted from ruining other people's lives ?
@@Kittykat-ne7dr exactly…..they’re all corrupt
She should also give her multi million pound leaving pay to the 700 people who suffered at the hands of her lack of action . Bottom line, the person at the top are ultimately responsible, that's why, allegedly, they get obscene wages.
She should be in jail.
Your following the wrong leader in this thread,Read my comments above then think again,she was NOT a software writer and the rest of you in this thread should be ashamed of your selves picking on some who does not know software problems.
@lesjones471 Les, Paula didn't ask too many questions either. She deserves to eat plenty of Porridge like her other Executive Cronies.
The money should be paid for by Fujitsu, not the British tax payers
Bugs in systems are common. The inexcusable part is that Fujitsu did not support the system after go live and admit the issues and work through the bug fixes openly and honestly. This wouldn't have come from most devs or testers, they are often told to cover things up by top management.
If the system requirements weren't specified adequately and correctly then the fault lies with the Post Office and not so much with Fujitsu.
You would need to know what happened in the planning meetings to sort that out.
@PeteH0121 the IT team had discovered they could login to any sub post office computer system without the postmaster knowing about it and cause the till to show less money. Simply means the money could be transferred somewhere else !!
And yet the guy who created the computer system wants immunity from prosecution before making any statement. Clearly the actions of an innocent man.
@@PeteH0121The system was unstable which could cause it to fail to record transactions, record them multiple times, or record only one side if the transaction. There were design problems as well which may have been tracable to bad requirements, but Fugitsu would be at fault if the implementation of the design (the coding) was shoddy.
@@david672orfordHa ha. If it was unstable, how on earth did it get clearance to be released into the Live environment.
Incompetence at it's finest.
I've av=ctually heard that the relationship between Fujitsu and the Post Office needs close examination too.
It would be difficult to unravel this one even if there was ever any intention to do that - which I doubt there really is.
100% agree with michelle
Quite right Michelle, dig down to the actual people who did the job, their QA, the overall department heads; their bosses. But that rule should apply to everyone inc MPs, journalists, bbc, etc.
Handing her CBE in is exactly as you, Michelle, put it, she knew the harm it was all causing and chose to ignore it. Exactly the same as so many other quislings in this country though many not even realise they are quislings - power of marketing and media eh
These honours that are being dished out to all sorts of "failures" needs to stop, it's a joke when you look at so many failures recieving honours for second rate performances. What do you think "sir tony"!
Just finished watching this series, seems like a reflection of todays society, those with power looking down on the little person. The more Woke you are the least you really care.
No she and others should be facing prison sentences
How can this happen that. Man said it Happens when there's Criminal Curruption every where from Top to Bottom ,And All involved aren't brought before the Courts and in prison .
There are people doing double figure jail sentences for a lot less than these slimy corrupt bastards did!
You ask why the engineers didn’t speak up? They wanted to keep their jobs and had signed confidentiality clauses in their contracts.
I’m a retired pentester, and on many occasions we found major issues in different systems, whilst the business just wanted a “rubber stamp”. On many occasions when submitting our findings we were dismissed and told to delete our reports - not an uncommon occurrence sadly.
"Many faced financial ruin, breakdown of relationships, and several deaths by suicide have been linked to what was described by British barrister Jason Beer as 'the worst miscarriage of justice in recent British legal history'"
Viva Filistin!!! Est. since by british balfour 1917.
The honours system basically works thus...if you do ANYTHING against the British public you WILL be rewarded...
Sir Jimmy Savile, Sir Tony Blair, Lady Thatcher, Sir Fred Goodwin, Sir Stanley Johnson, Sir Evgeny Lebedev...
Paula is dead right about the details she has mentioned, there are definitely people whom have gained great wealth and power from this and therefore they are responsible and should be held publicly accountable.
It was a case of hand it back before it was taken back , her and many other should be in jail including that utter joke Davie 😮
Starmer as DPP could have overruled every one of these convictions but CHOSE not to .
Because back when he was DPP nobody understood it was a mistake. Try harder.
Private prosecutions by the post office.
😂😂 same old shit the Tories have been in power for the last 13 years
@j4wn so are you saying the every member of government since 1999, every board member or manager of the RM, and every single member that served under any DPP is also complicit in this too? Not the smartest cookie are ya
@@aaronaaronson7600 Mistakes dont happen that many times.
Should not the (now) ex- CBE PO chief executive return both her salary/s and pay-off?
The NI Education Authority have just awarded Fujitsu a £300 Million contract to replace the old Capita SIMs for all Schools across the NI.
The lady (Vennels) should not be congratulated she should by put in court and given justice.
If she was sorry she wouldn’t have taken it in first place
Jail Her!
Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice is an custodial offence.
Jim says….. Fujitsu also was awarded the contract to roll.out the National Ping Alert last year, another “world beating” system like Test Track and Trace. As you know this sank without Trace a few weeks after it was introduced, as did the £37b cost to the tax payer.
Fujitsu’s “Ping” was a “steal” at a mere £26b to the tax payer.
Fujitsu sub contracted this job to a company called Infosys, which happens to be owned by a woman. This woman just happens to be the wife of… Rishi Sunak. Ker Ching! Where has all this money gone? Come on BBC, let’s have some of that investigative, traditional and impartial journalism!!
Criminal offences against these innocent postmasters by those in charge should be in prison.
jail is accountable
Mp's need prison for taking bribes from Fijitsu
for installing the system, CPS for going ahead with dodgy prosecutions, police for persuing it so rigorously, minister for public prosecutions, all go to prison & heavy fines...
She handed it back ,because her hand was forced,only reason.
A sacrifice???wtf?? A sacrifice is losing your child, your spouse, your home, your reputatiom your livelihoood. Not being called my lady or maam or dame is NOT A SACRIFICE.
Allowing the post office to investigate themselves, and to be its own law enforcement arm is absolute madness. And where were the basic rights of individual citizens? Do they not have some protections in the UK?
Can’t fault Michelle, says it as it is.
No fluffy fluffy from Michelle..she’s a northern lass.
Just a few years too late. The station is too concerned about Markle and culture wars.
@@andrewoliver8930 Correct. It's a very silly channel.
Is she handing back any of the bloody big handshake she got when she left?
Well done M D always enjoy listening to you straight talking very little BS i know that you can't be 100% as you would be put on the fire like poor Katie H
she should be in jail
Michelle Dewbury IS SUCH A GODDESS
Although everyone wants to see justice, for all of the Post Office workers, caught up in this terrible Scandal, in respect of what they have lost, it all seems too little too late.
I would rather she handed back her golden handshake.
Iam with you Michelle
I think a major part of this is that when these people take their jobs they don’t see it as working for the people of Britain but for the government or the state. Everything she did was with that in mind. She thought she was doing what she was there to do - cover up for the government or the state. She never thought for one moment that she should have the benefit of the people of the United Kingdom as her number one priority. She was rewarded for the cover up, so her instinct was correct!
They will all move out of the country living the life
Corporations need to know they are not above the little people they come from the little people they are not untouchable, you will be brought down, Paula Vennells is self righteous and has only given up her honour under public pressure, it means nothing and she is one of many more involved in the destruction of innocent lives 😢
The only one Paula Vennells thinks about is Paula Vennells the whole lot of them involved need to be jail
Oh what a sacrifice she made.
Blair seemed to get rich very quickly.
Was he on a ''retainer'' with Fujitsu...and other global corporations?
wouldn’t be surprised! Fact is back in early 2000s he was on a bender with the war in Iraq and supporting Bush & all the weapns manufacturers. . How did Dr David Kelly, the British weapons inspector whistleblower in all this ‘weapons of mass destruction’ lunacy fare? He was suicided by the state.
Fujitsu should be in court. It was their fault.
Corruption
Vennells & others should go to jail.
The government could be a lot quicker to clear the post master s name they didn't break the law just getting the interest of the money if it was cleared next week they get paid
Jail