NEW: AutoTrickler V3 Powder Dispensing System (full details)
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It's here! AutoTrickler V3. This new version brings Bluetooth connectivity (with free apps), an all-new AutoThrow, and an updated AutoTrickler base. You'll be seeing this system in some hard-core long-range rifle stories here on the channel, so make sure you're subscribed!
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We need more nerds in the reloading industry/shooting competitions, they are our friends.
Adam has out done himself. I ordered my upgrade the day it came out just received it got it installed in under 10 minutes wow flawless 👍thanks
First time I’ve seen one of your videos. I was looking for a V2 kit troubleshooting video. I had my V2 on eBay and after seeing this, I pulled it off eBay, and ordered my V3 conversion kit.
I too am a precision reloader (read that OCD). I live in Texas near a private range with over 70 steel targets in six lanes of various distances...up to 1+miles...lucky me.
Now I’m headed to your place to subscribe. We think alike.
Alright for your next challenge (V4), replace the drop cup with a primed case. Have a shell plat and funnel system, that tares out the case then drops the powder into the case.
Version five,: robotic arm resizes brass (also automatically aneals , puts in progressive charges at .1 grain intervals, and presses bullets .030” off the lands and then the robotic arm 🦾 fires the rounds with perfect support to determine the load work up for the rifle.
#AITakeOver
ordered my V3 upgrade yesterday cant wait as ball powder was all over the scale and the blue tooth feature will be a great addition!
Most excellent design and product. I'm impressed!
I have the v2 incarnation. Cannot live without it. The newly designed powder throw and bluetooth is fantastic. Sign me up.
Right on! After loading 50 rounds with Adam for load development I was sold. :)
@@Ultimatereloader Appreciate all your time and effort. This channel rocks!
Thanks, appreciate the kind words!!
I too have the V2 but after seeing this video I immediately went to Autotrickler.com and ordered my V3 conversion kit. $290.00. (As you know, these are not cheap)
I’ve had the V2 auto throw/trickle setup for a couple of months and it’s probably the best money I’ve spent on upgrading reloading gear. I’ve already ordered most of the V3 upgrade except for the auto throw as I don’t use large extruded powders like Retumbo and the 3D Printed housing/Lee setup works for Varget/H4350. Definitely looking forward to getting the new parts in and being able to use the BT capabilities.
My wife said you have to quit posting videos about these kinds of high-end reloading tools. Well, actually she said I need to "stop spending money on these expensive gadgets". Which by extrapolation means you have to quit posting reviews on awesome products like this. Now that I've added the AutoTrickler to my wishlist, can you post a video explaining how to embezzle money from your own bank account? I really feel that kind of info would help ensure domestic tranquility on a very localized level. LOL
Hahahaha! :)
Just make up fake receipts……unless she controls the checkbook! 😂
If you don't buy the groceries for the house, start now. She will love you for it. Just take $40 cash back or a Cabela's gift card every time you go. Wait about 3-4 months give or take. Don't do it when you are tasked to get a gallon of milk. I got busted when I said but it is organic.
@@TheNutzandBoltz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love it. Well done.
I just ordered mine cant wait to get started. I also shoot from a Snipers choice bench because I want the best
Nice work!
That guy is so excited about his invention.
Welp ordered my scale. Guess ill be ordering V3 in a few months hahaha
Great tool !
The Area 419 upgrades are the way to go. Bluetooth would be nice.
Awesome video! Just put my $50 deposit down. Can’t wait. Love how the resolution will be sub .1 grains. I think how many times with my pact scale I’m either a few grains higher below that’s 1 to 2 ft./s per granul so probably plus or -6 ft./s just on powder charge discrepancies.
Ordered.
the nerd is strong in these two.
and accuracy
and we'll armed
Lol 😂
Innovation takes the nerds to do it 😇😂
I agree
Love the v3 upgrades! Is the funnel designed to prevent spills? The bended straws of the v2 just doesn't cut it sometimes...
I bought one and have loaded a couple hundred rounds of 6.5 Creedmoor and 6BR so far. The accuracy is pretty much as-stated at +/- 0.02 grains. From my experience, it's spot on about 40% of the time, 0.02 gr. light about 50%, and 0.02 gr. over about 10% using H4350 or Varget stick powder. I'm just guessing, but I think ball powders might work better just because they flow better. Anyway, it ain't cheap, but only costs about $100 more than the RCBS Matchmaster. Whether or not it's worth the price depends on what you're looking for. This tool is mainly for those who are into precision long range shooting. If you are just plinking at 100 or 200 yds., then it's overkill. Prior to buying the AutoTrickler I used a Chargemaster Lite. I can say with certainty that my groups are tighter now. This is especially noticeable at 800+ yards.
I've had one for about six months now. It's a really nice piece of kit and very accurate, but it's not perfect. I've run into three problems that keep popping up. 1#. Bluetooth connectivity. On at least four occasions, the V3 would not connect with either my iPhone or iPad despite repeated attempts. All my other Bluetooth devices connected with no problem, so it is something in the V3 itself. Four times in six months is not that bad, and after doing a cold reboot (actually unplugging it from the power supply and plugging it back in) it usually connected just fine. #2. Runaway powder thrower. About once every 80 drops or so (on average), the powder thrower starts cycling repeatedly after the trickler kicks in to top off the charge. Usually after four or five extra dumps it stops by itself and I just dump the overcharge back in the hopper and continue. So far, it's always stopped after 4-5 extra throws but things could get dicey if it didn't. #3. Runaway trickler. This has only happened twice, but it's been twice in the last 200 rounds or so. Hopefully this isn't a developing trend. When it happens, it is in the middle of weighing a charge. The trickler will suddenly go to full speed and won't stop until I either cancel the charge and stop it manually, or shut the entire unit off. My main concern with these runaways is that I don't feel I can start a charge and walk away for fear of a huge pile of powder laying on the balance when I get back. Other than these three issues the machine has been fine. I have no regrets buying it and use it regularly for loading .223, .308, 6CM, 6.5CM, and 6BR.
WOW ! This thing is amazing
Took me about 50 rounds of precision loads to get hooked :)
I just watched the RCBS Matchmaster Link video, and I was thinking, “You know, two different tube sizes is great, but a powder throw would really speed this up!”
And TH-cam gives me this video next?
Creepy.
Maybe some day. Kind of low on the list though. Out to 1000 yards, I miss targets because of windage mostly.
Not as expensive as I thought however,........but damn! This scale/thrower/trickler would make a happy camper though.
When I saw that 12 dollar hopper from Lee presiding over the set, the charm has been broken.
OK how do measure and adjust for scale drift on the iX? Or, how often? I have the original auto trickler and one does need to check. I would say at worst, every 20 rounds.
I placed my order for an Auto Trickler. There is a 4-6 week lead time which is gonna be excruciating.
I have an Ohaus beam scale
Please forgive me if this was answered in the video. But from what I understand you have to purchase the recommended scale from another retailer and then buy the autotrickler kit to install on the scale? There is no way to just buy everything from one retailer at once?
Hmm, think I’ll stay with my PACT dispenser. Not as fast but a)paid for and b)fast enough for what I’m doing and still faster than a beam scale or anything along those lines.
Super excited to see something like this out there! I love that you designed your own thrower and the billet aluminum parts look custom and beautiful. I do, however, have a question about the plastic-ware I was seeing on the model you demo'd here. Is that what the finished product looks like and, if so, what 3d printer and resins/ plastics are used in it's construction?
This one was near-final (prototype) but the finished V3 is nearly identical - will be showing soon... I'll let Adam answer the 3D printing questions...
@@Ultimatereloader I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that these, less than essential, parts are far cheaper to mfg. this way. I have seen people offering aftermarket 'upgrades' (that sure didn't take long) to replace them with aluminum for those of us that like shiny things. My only worry here is that the polymers used are a bit on the delicate side and that the inside of the down spout may be just as roughly contoured. I guess as this operation takes off that will change? For now I would say the total cost is still compelling for those into bulk reloading, general compeition and the hobbyist reaching for greater enjoyment in reloading but at $1400 -1500 (the cost I have seen a completely aluminum rig go for) I think you'd be limiting yourselves to the subset that collect Giruad tool company products and I bet you have bigger plans than that ^^.
Did Adam not start this while working at Silver Mountain Targets? Maybe look into that!
None of my business :)
On autotrickler website it says that fx120 scale is $500 (Cambridge distributor) but when you click on the link the price shown is $745! Why such huge difference?
I looked up price. Its really not bad for how much you get.
I kind of agree but Dam 950 is still steep lol
@@greeneman99710 it's quality though, if you are into competitive precision shootin this is it..
It seems like that till you have this setup
@@ohiodragndime I use auto trickler
Would it be possible/not too difficult to make some sort of a “quick-change” system for the powder dispenser so rather than turning the stick in/out you just take out your 50-grain tube and pop in a 25-grain tube, if you understand what I’m failing to describe? Still have them be adjustable obviously. But that way you could say set a tube for your 6.5 creedmoor and then if you want to change over to .223 you just pop in that tube quick. Save some time fine-tuning that initial charge throw
Lucas- I don't really see the need for that since the metering insert has a graduated scale in grains.... and you only need to get within a grain or so since it "under-charges" by design....
New question. Can you measure powder with this system and be seating bullets at the same time if working the press induces very slight amounts of movement in the reloading bench? I can only assume that the bench having slight amounts of movement would cause the scale some inaccuracies?
I think you'd want to isolate the two processes if possible...
When you set is at 52.6 and it only dispenses 52.58 see at 10:50
A minute per round to measure powder using a balance beam scale? Are you using your nose to do it?
Since price wasn't mentioned I can imagine it is out of reach for most.
website says $500 us
@@robertmaclean5463 That's $500 without the scale.
@@potatoe4221 I bit the bullet and ordered one. $960us which is 1300 beaver tails up here in Canada plus one arm and a leg for
tax
@@robertmaclean5463 Damn, you are ahead of me in line....just ordered one the other day as well...yay for the dollar right now
BrendanSoltys check out turban press and triebel dies. Awesome gear! Made in Germany
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I have none of this but my old electronic PACT scale is 20+ years old... living on borrowed time. So my question, I need a FX-120i and the V3, is there anything else I will need?
Then break out the plastic for the Area419 bling to add to the system. This stuff is like crack!
Nope that'll get you running... Don't worry about the 419 stuff unless that's what you want... But it throws loads perfectly without all the shiny bits.
A bigger wallet. I like my PACT
I have a V1 autotrickler upgraded with a V2 pulley and area 419 base. Is it possible to use that with the V3 autothrow and Bluetooth?
The V1 autotrickler does not fit on the area 419 base. Their base is for the V2 autotrickler. So yes, I think it will work. Actually, best if you take a photo of what you have an email me.
@@AutoTrickler Do you ship these to the UK?
@@DanDustEmOff yes
It’s a V1 that’s upgraded with the V2 aluminum trickler body, but it still has the V1 electronics on the scale.
How would this set-up compare to the RCBS Matchmaster?
No comparison. This is a lab grade scale with a 5 year warranty that alone retails for $750. The scale accuracy and consistency is everything with a powder charge system.
The both guarantee the same accuracy...
I have the auto trickler but mine isn't the Bluetooth version.. What does one need to get on board with Bluetooth?
See V2 to V3 upgrades here: www.autotrickler.com/autotrickler.html
So you can buy a Curtis Vector action on an MPA handlapped barrel or you get most of this set up....sounds a bit rich for my blood...hate being poor.
We all work toward it. I have had to pick my battles and decided to go a cheaper factory gun and the Auto throw/trickler V2 setup with an ANDfx300 and it has been the best decision I have ever made.
So the scale is sold separately??
Yes or in a kit from some providers
ceproducts.shop/collections/full-reloading-kit/products/pre-order-of-the-the-whole-kit-v3
Need to 3D print more of the components so you can cut the price.
So it is an Arduino with an expensive-ass scale?
Did you miss the billet aluminum AutoThrow? :)
BTW: The scale is worth every penny- look at scales that are certified for 0.02 grain accuracy, all of the other "lab grade" scales like this one are more expensive.
~ $500.
No
With my 5-0-5 i can weigh 100 charges in about 15 minutes. Use your equipment don't let it use you.
Not 4 me, I am not a sniper
Nor am I.
Well it is obviously a prototype as you can see everything plastic is 3D printed on a FDM printer. For production that is not viable, he needs to get it injection molded.
Nope. Did you know that Adam's company has won awards for their innovation (see below)? Why would you invest in molds for injection molding for a specialty product that you revise designs for every couple years? Adam has a whole "fleet" of 3D printers printing around the clock. huddle.today/on-target-onezero-wins-export-award-for-innovative-products-for-long-range-shooters/
@@Ultimatereloader Well if you get the plastic parts injection molded, and the aluminium parts die cast and then just machine the critical parts in stead of machining it from billett like you do now you can drop the price down a lot and increase the volume of production massively. And that way opening it up for a much bigger market because of the lower price. And you get the added bonus that the plastic parts will lock a lot better with a smooth finish in stead of the 3D printer layer lines.
And a mold for injection molding does not have to be that expensive. For smaller runs and with no reinforcement added to the plastic you can make the molds out of aluminium in stead of tool steel and cut the price for the molds that way.
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I get a malware warning when I try to go to the Auto Trickler link.
www.autotrickler.com/autotric...
May be something on your end- this is the link: www.autotrickler.com/autotrickler.html - just confirmed it in the video description.
Mickey Mouse operation
if you don't want to sound like a troll- get specific.
@@Ultimatereloader fine. The amount of equipment you have on the table, the elaborate setup is begging for one of two solutions, ironically one of which you have already reviewed. Either doing it by by using RCBS Matchmaster (yes, yes the price is high but at least you won't look like a miniature cement factory) or just going by hand. A $30 ebay scale with 0.01 gr increment (yes there are some for that price and yes they are as accurate as $500 models, I.e. NOVA) will get you rolling at 20-28 seconds a load. I'm not sure why it takes you a minute per load, maybe 45 sec if you are out of practice or overloaded by accident (1 in 10 loads for me). Still with a little bit of practice and a minimum investment most anyone can do it for the price and speed mentioned above. Unless you have shaky hands or just plain lazy. Mickey mouse operation refference because it looks clumsy and is really not all that affordable. This setup is begging for something to go wrong and the space needed just to measure powder is laughable. Rcbs lite (which you also reviewed) is by far a better option.
Thanks for elaborating- but the adage "you get what you pay for" holds true here. A scale is an investment.
ehm, what is the point of this product? It seems more like a prototype than a finished product. It supposedly have higher accurecy than the usual electronic powder dispensers, but other than that the system seems less userfriendly and easy to use than the other dispensers. The big news would be one of the already existing electronic powder tricklers upgraded with more accurate weighing cells to produce the same accuracy in the normal user friendly package..
Hi- question for you- are you involved in long-range rifle matches or research?
The point is the great scale, and the accurate trickler. I have a RCBS auto dispenser... and it's great for the price, but it's not as accurate as I'd like. Not a great scale, and sometimes overthrows by a tenth or two, which is way too much in the sports I compete in.
This is the tool for you. Just saw the comment that you ordered, you will love it!
@@Ultimatereloader No, I am not involved in long range shooting, but I still see the value of an accurate powder load. My point is that a device in the same formfactor like i.e.the rcbs chargemaster would seem like a more userfriendly device rather than this device that consist of several devces that have to be adjusted independently and you have to use a pad or phone to cennect to it.. Wouldn't it be better if someone would improve a chargemaster like machine so that it would offer the same accurecy..??
.Even thought I see the value of the accurecy this device offers, I still think it seems like a half finished product for the reasons I have explained..
This product is for people that compete at 1000 yards- a VERY demanding scenarios. There's no substitute for this scale. :) Seriously- the other dispensers have scales that are +/- 0.1 grain in accuracy, whereas this scale is accurate to 0.02 grains. It's massive (the scale). Not sure why you think the V3 system is not a finished product- with the Bluetooth interface, what are you missing?
nothing good is ever cheap!!!!! cry only once
Truth!
Still not worth my money, since its only for the thrower not the scale too.
Worth every cent... The scale is a dream