The negative quirks you mentioned - engine layout, side pull, etc., are part of the reasons why I continue to love Moto Guzzi. The day they refine that motor so that it loses those defining characteristics is the day they lose that soul.
Purchased a S model last year, extremely satisfied. For me it is an amazing all-arounder. I have done 400 mile days with combination of flat land, and mountainous curvy roads, and short trips around town. The Mandello has performed flawlessly. I have never noticed any torque steer, or shaft drive jacking either. When pushed real hard, you can tell it is not happy, but I am talking about hammering it, other than that Guzzi has done a fabulous job with this bike. I have enjoyed it so much, I decided to order the new Stelvio also. If you just had one bike, the Mandello is a great choice!!
@17:17 you criticized Moto Guzzi for making it too difficult to adjust the windscreen. Definitely Rider Error!!! Press the rider mode button for a couple of seconds while riding and the menu takes you straight to the windscreen height adjust, easy!
To be fair, I think that a control used that often should have a dedicated switch on the bars. Of course, I read the manuel prior to test rides, so it wouldn't necessarily affect me, but even so.
@briangc1972 my V85 doesn't have an electric windscreen, and I almost never adjusted one that I did have, agree that those fall under the silly things that just add weight and break catagory.
I have to disagree I think the Moto Guzzi is the perfect engine layout. When you go to adjust valves it is 100 times easier no radiators to remove no gas tank just pop off the covers and you're there. I know a lot of people say valve adjustments you only have to do it every 15000 miles. I put that many miles on in a year so that means every year I have to adjust the valves or at least check them. So for me that reason alone makes this the perfect engine layout.
A friend of mine has an old El Dorado and a T 5. It takes him 5 minutes to pull the plugs and adjust the mixture. Screw and locknut rockers mean that there are no shims required for valve adjustment, which means it takes about half an hour. The only thing that they really got wrong was the in sump oil filter arrangement. What were they thinking!!! Oh, he's owned the T5 for about 30 years. It has 300,000 kms. on the original bores, pistons and rings, and it isn't even tired. Amazing.
Moto Guzzi motorcycles are endearing bikes to own. They are sturdy, long lasting and repairable. Most maintenance is DIY plausible. The torque reaction is no worse than a boxer. It’s not a problem, it’s a feature. Tractor like but still sporty. They all handle better than they should. Not faster than everything or whatever. But just incredible to have and use. Really. The “oddities” are part of the deal with Moto Guzzi.
I have the V100s. It's fun, you have to be firm with the 1 to 2 shift. I get a lot of people checking it out. The look seems to resonate with a lot of people. The world it changed was Moto Guzzi's, their first modern engine ever. It finally brought the brand into the 21st century.
While liquid cooling is nice, I don't think you need it to be considered modern. The new 2024 v85tt has a pretty advanced engine while still being air-cooled. Semi dry sump, variable valve timing among other modern touches.
happy new years to you as well!! ive watched just about all your videos and my piggy bank is growing in anticipation to finally buy my motorcycle. hopefully by spring ill have enough for a 390 duke. did msf already everything is moving towards that first day and youve been a big part.
This has been posted on other Guzzi videos but bears repeating here. Ride a Guzzi for an hour, you’ll say;”This is weird!” Ride a Guzzi for an afternoon, you’ll say; “I could get used to this!” Ride a Guzzi for a day, you’ll say; “I’m never riding anything else!”
I recently picked up a V85 after looking at bikes for a friend who wanted to get back onto two wheels. Now we both have one, and I'm looking forward to many miles touring as the Guzzi Bros. It only took me about 20 minutes of test ride to know I loved that machine. Now the question is, does the GSA get replaced by a Stelvio?
I got the red one last year (2023). Specced it with heated grips and the media mod. I fell in love with the looks of it, but I've grown to love it more and more over several thousand miles. The rear shock is a bit harsh for UK roads so I'll probably replace that, but the forks are sweet. Got the panniers for free in the deal and I love the way they just slot directly into the bike, so that when you remove them there's no ugly hardware left on the bike. It's practical for scratching, touring and even city commuting, being so well balanced and smooth at small throttle openings. From all reports, the quickshifter on the 'S' model isn't particularly great so I'll pass on that. As for the 'adaptive aerodynamics', I have them switched off except for 'rain' mode, where they do a fantastic job of keeping your crotch dry - and you can't put a price on that!
I have a tracer 9 and a moto guzzi v85tt. Both great bikes. But here's the difference I've experienced personally. The tracer is as good today, 35k miles later, as the day I got it. But after 25k miles, the v85tt keeps getting BETTER. Like wearing in some jeans, or a leather jacket. My Japanese bikes start out good and stay good forever. But my guzzis start out barely good enough and become great. It's weird. Just my experience. But I noticed Yammie alluding to it in the video. The more he rode the guzzi, the more he wanted to get to know it. That's how they git you, man!
When I drive a non Guzzi I always feel like there is something missing. And I also feel like their air cooled engines only work better after 25k miles or so.
That’s very interesting but . . . I feel the same way about my Africa Twin DCT. I own four bikes and I immediately felt at home on the other three; for the Africa Twin I suffered immediate buyer’s remorse. It took me a full season and over 20 000 kilometers to fall for the bike and now, I absolutely love the thing.
@@RoellieV96 I'm currently at 35k on my v7 III and it is buttery smooth When I first got it I honestly thought it was gonna blow into pieces whenever I was at highway speeds
I have the Navale which is between rhe standard and the S models. It has heated grips, tire pressure monitor but not the active suspension nor all the connectivity to phones and other electronics. I owned several BMW Airheads and the V100 has nowhere near the torque reactions that those had so I don't even notice it. Shaft jacking is also something I don't notice either. Guzzi lengthened the shaft to virtually eliminate that trait as well. Your missing a few shifts is probably typical of non Guzzi riders. There is a technique to shift smoothly and quietly but in your defense Guzzi gearboxes take some mileage before they get good and nice to shift. I am on my third Guzzi but still own two, I traded my T120 for my V100 and now I wouldn't own anything but a Guzzi. Guzzis shouldn't be judged on a short ride they grow on you with time. You might meet the nicest people on a Honda but you meet the most interesting people on Guzzis. Glad you enjoyed it. By the way Mandello de Lario is where they are handbuilt by many of the townfolk.
So I’ve got a 2015 Ducati Diavel and sold a Panagale V2 to get the V100-S and I couldn’t be happier. I’ve had two friends who have spent many hours on my Diavel but prefer the riding characteristics of the V100. The Diavel is still my first love but the V100 seems to do everything right. And, it’s one of the most beautiful bikes on the road.
@@TheFirstCause They have different personalities and I adore them both. The V100 feels lighter and more nimble likely due to shorter wheel base and rake while the Diavel feels more planted/stable in a turn. Both are good all-rounders but the Diavel’s absurd but manageable power dominates. The V100’s strength is flexibility. Happy shopping!
Just because Yammie is repeating it several times: The engine on this bike isn't transversally mounted, it's mounted longitudinally. The same as BMW Boxer engines. It's the orientation of the crankshaft what is deteminating the terminology for the mountig of the engine, not the orientation of the cylinders. Harleys (for example) have transversally mounted engines.
Moto Guzzi is not having a problem selling the V100 Mandello. I wanted to get the S model but settled for the Navale model because delivery of a S was uncertain it has the heated grips and tire pressure monitoring. The gear box does break in after about 1000 miles. Motorcycling isn’t always about money. I hope more manufacturers try different things like Moto Guzzi did with this bike.
This is not a dumb or cool way of building a motorcycle as Yammie claims, a longitudinal V-twin like the Guzzi (no, it is not transverse..) is the most logical way to build a shaft driven air-cooled V-twin (yes, I know, it is liquid-cooled now, but that's how it all started in 1967). Firstly, the crankshaft is now in line with the drive shaft, so you need only one 90 degree transmission, i.e. at the rear wheel. Secondly a V-twin is the most vibration free twin layout. My 1972 Moto Guzzi Ambassador is completely vibration free at its sweet spot of 3,500 rpm. Thirdly both cylinders now have optimal cooling, unlike e.g. the Harley V-twins or even parallel twins. Fourthly it is the most accessible layout to adjust the tappets. And finally you can warm your hands on the cylinder heads when it is cold outside 🙂.
No gyroscopic effect from the motor to stabilize the ride. It lets the motorcycle go from one side to the other quicker then one would expect. Same for the boxster on the GS - and it is one of the reasons why people are often surprised by how nimble the GS feels compared to the weight.
I love my V100S! It’s my first Guzzi and I can shift without missing a gear, and I love the cruise control a lot! I hope to see your review of an S model!!
It’s clear he really likes the bike, but being the type of guy he is, ie “to cool for school “ , just had to find fault where there isn’t. He’s complaining about the price?? It’s an outstanding Italian sport tour for under 16k for gods sake! It’s a shame Yam is so popular in this industry, as he really doesn’t do new riders a favor.
Bought the Mandello S model this past month. Completed the break in service and now just get out on the road and really enjoy riding it. The wings you don't notice so much because it hits where your love handles and waist line would be and that is usually covered by your riding jacket. Find a cold day or a rainy day and you'll notice it then. I don't have the missing gear in shift problem you seemed to have had. While I don't have the proper miles on the bike yet to truly break the QS shifter in, it seems to thrive on higher rpms to upshift and dropping rpms to down shift. The problem you had with the windshield is you didn't work the controls on the left. It cycles right through or the long push on the mode button. Love the active suspension, heated grips. I have heated gloves that take care of the back of the hands, the grips take care of the undersides, it balances quite nicely on a cool day. The more I ride this bike the better I love it. I am very happy with this bike. It just works and it grows on you.
One other thing I've noticed about this bike. You don't get the buffeting approaching a semi on the interstate nor the crosswinds. The bike just ignores it like it doesn't exist. On crosswinds, it doesn't push the bike but instead pushes me.
That's actually a longitudinal motor, the topology is dependant on the direction of the crankshaft relative to the direction of the bike. The default engine configuration is transverse, like a transverse inline 4 on a superbike, where the crankshaft is side to side. Longitudinal motors are the Moto Guzzi V-twins, the BMW and Honda Boxers and the Triumph rocket, where the crankshaft is parallel with the bike, almost every other motor is transverse. On the pages for the definitions of each engine layout you will find these: "A transverse engine is an engine mounted in a vehicle so that the engine's crankshaft axis is perpendicular to the direction of travel." "In automotive engineering, a longitudinal engine is an internal combustion engine in which the crankshaft is oriented along the long axis of the vehicle, from front to back." Cylinder configuration is irrelevant to the directional topology.
The owners manual of my V9 lists the engine as being "traverse", meaning: something that crosses or lies across, NOT transverse, which means set crosswise, or made at right angles to the long axis of the body. Let's take a 1965 Mustang as an example. The inline 6 cylinder is longitudinally mounted because that's how the crankshaft is pointing. The V-8 is then considered transverse because the cylinders point to the sides? No, the crankshaft is still aligned with the long axis of the body. Generally speaking, if a vehicle has a driveshaft to the rear wheel(s), the engine is mounted longitudinally. The Suzuki Boulevard is one of the few exceptions to this rule. The Guzzis, Honda GL series, and BMW K series and airheads, all have longitudinally mounted engines. 99.9% of all other motorcycles have transversely mounted engines. Transverse mounting is the norm, that doesn't mean you can change the definition of the word.
@@984francis I think because someone popularised the misnomer and the factory decided it's easier to go with it than correct it. Someone thought the transverse was about cylinders when it's actually about the crankshaft, because in most vehicles the crankshaft and the cylinders are always in the same alignment so the distinction isn't necessary but V-twins have the offset back to front cylinder configuration so they got confused and called that longitudinal.
@@johnlebeau5471 I think the best way to help people differentiate the difference between Transverse and Longitudinal engines is to look at the large Honda V4s which are used in both configurations. The VFR has the conventional Transverse V4, with cylinder heads directed forward and back, while the ST1300 has the Longitudinal engine with the heads poking out the sides like a Moto Guzzi. The following are quotes from the Wikipedia pages for the ST1100/ST1300 and the VFR1200. "The ST1100 had a 1,085 cc longitudinal 90-degree V4 engine." "The Honda VFR1200F is the 7th generation Honda sport touring motorcycle from the VF and VFR line motorcycles powered by a transverse mounted V4 engine."
i know they are quirky bikes but i like different , i love them. Id ride this all day. Id take a Griso too. Would fit right in with my Buell and Triumph 955i. It would give me one belt one chain and one shaft. Just two wheels with so many variants and possibilities, yet only a special few have such character in spades
Cruise control works the, same, exact, way, on the RS660. I read the manual the day I got it. I rented a previous gen Tuono and it worked the same way. Not sure why our Papa Yam's can't figure it out. You need to read the manual with the current generation of motorcycles with all their electronics. Beyond riding them, none are intuitive once you need to enter menu's.
The reason Sport Touring is not high in America is the abysmal lack of vacation time. I've had 2 Moto-Guzzis, done about 20,000 miles on them and I've never noticed the engine affecting lean in a corner. I'm no racer but I was always scraping stuff so it's not that I was riding gently.
I've put 5,300 miles on my v100 , and yes shifting is clunky. SW motek 15mm lower pegs. Arrow ti/carbon muffler adds some nice bark. The brakes are awesome ! Worse thing about it is the gas gage. The wings do work but I'd rather have a larger tank without the wings. I love mine ! Mandelo is name of town it's from.
@@operator0 it is getting better and I don't have the quick shifter but do plan to buy one. The shift from 1st to 2nd is really the only problem, after that it's fine.
The easiest way to design a shaft drive motorcycle is to have the engine mounted transversely. BMWs are the same as the Mandello, just with a boxer twin instead of a V-twin. The Triumph Tiger 1200 has to add a ring and pinion gear to enable a shaft drive. For touring, I think shaft drives are great. I've literally had to wheel my bike around a gas station stopping every few feet to spray lube on the chain.
Great review. Liked the 911 comparison. My neighbour had a new Guzzi Le Mans in the 70s, it looked so exotic compared to everything else those days and he regularly pulled 130mph with his wife on the back.
I'm a Tracer 9GT owner but am tempted by the Mandello. It's a gorgeous looking bike. I have a dealership near me so really ought to take a test ride. Oh, BTW, happy new year!
So, since my last comment I've taken delivery of my S model, ridden around Scotland a bit (where I live), and more recently spent a month touring Spain on it, including the famous MA-10 Sa Calobera road on Mallorca 👌. I love it, and you're bang on the money: it is a slow burn.
Anyone serious about traveling significant distances on a motorcycle needs shaft or belt drive. Really, after riding 500 or 600 miles in a day, do you want to have to be out in the motel parking lot cleaning, lubing, and adjusting your motorcycle's chain, especially when most motorcycles don't even have a centerstand anymore? No thank you. Chain drive is moronic except for use on a racetrack. Think about it: a vehicle in the 21st Cenutry with an exposed final drive which requires cleaning, lubrication, and adjustment every 500 miles, and replacement every 15,000 to 20,000 miles. At least some manufacturers in the early/mid 20th Century made attempts at enclosed chain drives. By accepting exposed chain drives, you're just giving motorcycle manufacturer's an excuse to cut manufacturing costs, while you suffer the inconvenience and cost of maintaining and replacing a glorified bicycle chain on a motorcycle that cost you $10k to $20k.
I am amazed of how it's similar to my '07 breva 1100. It's a good old chonky v twin that oozes history. Same shake, similar sound, only less clunkiness.
WAAAAAAA. I never hear you complain about the Harley gear box Japanese bike shift best. Love my v85tt Guzzi. Have owned Yam, Kaw and HD but prefer Guzzi.
@@michellevesque2130 Those Turbos were widow makers. My housemate's mate bought one back in the early 90's. He kept it about 3 months and sold it again, declaring that it was trying to kill him.
This is the most beautiful motorcycle I've ever seen, I think. I'd buy one but there's one dealer in Washington State and I can't see myself driving into Seattle for service. One dealer does not a network make. But I love the look has, the sound it makes, and the heritage it owns. Cool bike. No, super cool bike.
It is not the shaft drive that causes the sideways movement when accelerating, but the crankshaft in the longitudinal direction of the vehicle. But of course a cardan shaft makes a lot of sense with this engine concept. No more tensioning or maintaining the chain!
The Mandello S has character, tech, performance, quality and equipment incl. quick shifter, heated grips, electronically adjustable Ohlins, IMU, TPMS...well worth the money especially if you want to stand out from the crowd....well done Moto Guzzi for finally entering the 21st century
Just sold my beloved ‘93 Guzzi 1000S (only owner), but I’ve yet to desire any of the modern Guzzi’s. I’ve accepted the fact I’ll never find a nicer looking bike than that 1000S. I could ride that bike anywhere and steal the looks. At least I can still see it as I sold it locally 🙂
I stopped watching your videos for a while and wow!, man you have improved a lot¡, well done! Although there is still room for improvement. Beautiful bike by the way. I think it is one of the most beautiful bikes out here.
Motorcycle preferences are always subject. The shifting has never been a problem for me. There are a multitude of reasons for buying this bike, ask and I will share my perspective. Contrary to many reviews the engine is not transverse. Transverse or longitudinal is based on crankshaft, not the cylinders. Windscreen operation I found intuitive. I own 10 motorcycles and was a motorcycle dealer for 43 years and have been riding for 60 years.
Have you ridden both versions? If you have, did you notice a big difference in the suspension? I own a 1973 V7 sport, a 2017 V9 and a 2021 V85tt. The V100 will be my next addition to the Guzzi garage along with my other brand bikes. Yeah, I never sell anything, I keep adding....
I'm looking forward to the Stelvio which is stunning looking, and hopefully has a larger seat to peg distance to lessen what I felt was a fairly acute knee angle on the V100.
I'm torn between the Stelvio and my V85TT. I won't sell my V85 but I wish that it had the power rating of the Stelvio. The V100 is next on my list as a spare bike.
Regarding the engine layout, aside from ease of maintenance (my V85TT requires a valve check every 6k miles), given Moto Guzzi history, it makes very good sense. If one wishes to run a V-twin, especially with a shaft drive, the layout is perfect. For an air cooled V-twin, having both cylinders getting equal airflow makes perfect sense. Not as necessary with liquid cooling, but still fine. Further, I've toured a lot on a Ducati Multistrada, and even with a centerstand, chain maintained is a PITA when you are covering 4-500 miles on interstate days and 250-300 on good ones. I've only had the V85 for a couple weeks now, but I'm looking forward to a 2,500 odd mile Colorado trip where the chain isn't an issue. Of course, my current "big mile" bike is an R1250 GSA, so my thoughts probably don't map to your applications on a 1:1 basis.😊
Had the opportunity to test drive this rig while my dealer’s mechanic did the scheduled maintenance on my V7 Stone. One word: great. Seriously, I have no bad comment about the V100. And that might be the problem: it might be "too" polished. At a point where it might lack a tad of soul and character.
I have 3 Guzzis. V9, V85TT and a 1973 V7 sport. I don't like polished, over sanitized bikes. However, the analog age for motorcycles is almost over, soon they will come with back scratchers as standard equipment.
I was afraid of the same thing too... untill I test rode one. No... it 's not "too polished". It is just perfect. Polished enough not to give you a hard time, but at the same time "raw" and characterful so as not to forget that you are riding a (big) bike, and not a blender. Oh... and THAT sound... something between an old factory and a modern spaceship...
If you opened the users manual before driving, you would know about the controls. Did you expect a separate button for every feature? It's actually quite easy to raise the windshield when driving. The control is the arrow buttons on the the left. On the S model there are even more features controlled by the buttons. In Europe the base model is noe sold with gested grips and seat as standard. Yes, you suck in handling the gearbox or you got bad or damaged bike, however some of the v100 has been delivered with a badly adjusted clutch.
There's a way to never miss a gear again, and it's incredibly easy: keep pressure on the gear lever as you release the clutch. Every time you feel the lever click the rest of the way as you release the clutch, congratulations - you've just avoided a missed gear. Try it, practice it, and never miss a gear again.
So I came from a tracer 9gt to get the v85tt. I wanted a good all around bike that had more character. This was before the mandello and soon to come stelvio was announced but still love the bike. A cat delete and ECU tune gives it about the mandello power. Honestly can’t see myself getting another do everything bike. I will say 1-2 is something to get used to. I figured out pre-loading the shifter helped out a ton! Ok long winded comment over
@@kevinlunney5608 I found it on Vivid racing. The brand is called upmap. You order the tuner and it comes with whatever exhaust setup you have on the bike and it saves the factory tune for you to switch back to. After it gets downloaded onto the tuner it’s pretty plug and play
A retro modern take on a beautiful motorcycle! And come on dude I’m a 61 yr old tech idiot & I was able to figure out switch gear & use windshield. So many TH-cam idiots lol , but I digress it’s the spiritual successor of a VFR & until Honda builds one this is it !
@@tedmarakas2626 Well, I’m fortunate enough to have a 14 VFR & a Bonneville T120 & the simplicity is nice , but the interface on the V100 in no way at all diminishes the character of this motorcycle
Nice extended review. I test rode one two months ago, and although I am short and usually dislike heavy and tall bikes... I had a blast with Mandello and did not want to get off it. I can only describe it as a "sensensional" bike! As for the gearbox, you just need to be a bit more positive and decisive when you make the change. Maybe it seems awkward when you directly compare it with Japanese bikes, but you get used to it and then never miss a gear, and ultimately.... forget about it. As for the price... yeah... it is the only thing that stops me (so far) from owning one! Maybe MotoGuzzi should have another version without the aeros and a couple of grands cheaper. Or hopefully they get the same package on a new Grizo V100.
Have a V7, absolutely love the character of a Moto Guzzi..no other bike I’ve had or ridden stirs my soul like a MG. So when this guy says “it’s not groundbreaking, or amazing” I feel like he’s the kind of dude who wears socks to bed and puts ketchup on his hot dogs.
He's actually wrong and I think jumping to conclusions based on the myth that all shaft drives are the same. The drive shaft is lower than normal and this pretty much eliminates drive shaft jacking. And yes, I own one 😊
My modified 2007 Suzuki Bandit 1250 weighs about the same, puts out 140, tons of torque, worth maybe 5K, and is more satisfying and comfortable than any bike in the world. The real price is that nobody will look twice at it... I see this as paying 10K more to impress other people (I'd prefer riding my Bandit) which sometimes may be worth the ROI, but I'd go in knowing that was the value proposition with my eyes wide open.
@@havolia127 I'm not really a fan of 3 cylinders. Large v twins and v4's have the perfect balance of torque and HP. Plus this bike is a beautiful work of art.
Happy new year to all my fellow motorbike riders. In my opinion the engine is not a transversal mounted engine, but longitudinal. Correct me if i'm wrong. I've seen the subject has allready been discussed.
It IS a longitudinal engine, as the crank is longitudinal. It's referred to as a 'Transverse V-Twin' to indicate that the 'V' is transverse. Both are correct, but some people are really getting their panties in a bunch over this.
The narrator's comments re: his preferences about shaft-drives and the wind deflectors are not relevant. An ego the size of a '56 Buick and a lover of the sound of his own voice over-whelm the so-called review.
Do your homework Yammie Noob. That is not the only motorcycle sold brand new with a transverse V-twin. In fact, all Moto Guzzi's have a transverse V-twin, and have had for about 60 years. This makes sense, because they are all shaft driven. That said, that is the only liquid-cooled motor they produce at present, so it is unique in their lineup (new Stelvio is likely to be liquid cooled as well though). If Euro emission standards keep increasing, we may see the whole lineup of Guzzi's take the plunge.
@mar0364 ... so true, it's all about 'connecting' with the bike (regardless of brand or model). Unfortunately some of these reviews aren't true reviews, but just moto journo impressions, and don't do justice to the brand because they just don't 'get it'. The 'now I get it' feeling takes time to happen, but when it does then you become part of the motorcycle. Not just the bike, but the tires you ride on, the gear you wear ... the sum of all the parts.
I wish "road testers" would stop banging there gums about the moto guzzi rolling back on fore on tick over etc I got a V9 and don't notice anything Ive also had many shaft drives and never noticed this lift?
As you grow older, myself 50yrs old, you will find that comfort and character will be far higher on your list. I'm done with the sport bikes even though I still own two Aprilia Tuonos V2, 2008 factory and 2007 standard. Still fun riding them but after an hour or two.....I'd rather be on my 3 Guzzis.
Good vid, it is beautiful, no doubt, from my point of view, gorgeous, I've had over 70 bikes, none Moto guzzi, but have ridden, quirky but fun, and I do agree with you, grows on you...
Strange video. You start with an error, it's not a transversal v-twin as the crankshaft is in the same direction as the general driving direction. Then your initial judgement is you don' like it, mainly because it would lose power in the shaft drive but than all your driving experience is one great celebration of lovely experiences. And learn to shift.
😅😅😅😅Yammie, I have a Harley Fat Bob 114 I love the looks and torque! but in love with the V100 and its zen action, I can't make a choice... greetings Steven from Belgium
The negative quirks you mentioned - engine layout, side pull, etc., are part of the reasons why I continue to love Moto Guzzi. The day they refine that motor so that it loses those defining characteristics is the day they lose that soul.
I thought i would get use to the new design. i did not. the new 850 is nice though.
Purchased a S model last year, extremely satisfied. For me it is an amazing all-arounder. I have done 400 mile days with combination of flat land, and mountainous curvy roads, and short trips around town. The Mandello has performed flawlessly. I have never noticed any torque steer, or shaft drive jacking either. When pushed real hard, you can tell it is not happy, but I am talking about hammering it, other than that Guzzi has done a fabulous job with this bike. I have enjoyed it so much, I decided to order the new Stelvio also. If you just had one bike, the Mandello is a great choice!!
What do you notice when it’s “pushed real hard”?
Any defects or parts that had issues early on in your experience?
When really pushed hard, the bike feel a little bit unsettled. No issues at all, highly recommend the Mandello.
Am riding the S version and am quite happy with it. For the windshield: Read the f...... manual 🙂
@17:17 you criticized Moto Guzzi for making it too difficult to adjust the windscreen. Definitely Rider Error!!!
Press the rider mode button for a couple of seconds while riding and the menu takes you straight to the windscreen height adjust, easy!
To be fair, I think that a control used that often should have a dedicated switch on the bars. Of course, I read the manuel prior to test rides, so it wouldn't necessarily affect me, but even so.
@@jdnoneya5231 How often do you adjust your windscreen? Extra buttons cost money are are another future point of failure in electronics.
@briangc1972 my V85 doesn't have an electric windscreen, and I almost never adjusted one that I did have, agree that those fall under the silly things that just add weight and break catagory.
I have to disagree I think the Moto Guzzi is the perfect engine layout. When you go to adjust valves it is 100 times easier no radiators to remove no gas tank just pop off the covers and you're there. I know a lot of people say valve adjustments you only have to do it every 15000 miles. I put that many miles on in a year so that means every year I have to adjust the valves or at least check them. So for me that reason alone makes this the perfect engine layout.
A friend of mine has an old El Dorado and a T 5. It takes him 5 minutes to pull the plugs and adjust the mixture. Screw and locknut rockers mean that there are no shims required for valve adjustment, which means it takes about half an hour. The only thing that they really got wrong was the in sump oil filter arrangement. What were they thinking!!!
Oh, he's owned the T5 for about 30 years. It has 300,000 kms. on the original bores, pistons and rings, and it isn't even tired. Amazing.
This engine in it's simplicity is what BMW was with it's /2,/5 series.Big, simple, easy maintain, and it grows on you. Nuff said.
Still kinda expensive
@@Gojo_is_hot priced BMW lately?
Moto Guzzi motorcycles are endearing bikes to own. They are sturdy, long lasting and repairable. Most maintenance is DIY plausible. The torque reaction is no worse than a boxer. It’s not a problem, it’s a feature. Tractor like but still sporty. They all handle better than they should. Not faster than everything or whatever. But just incredible to have and use. Really. The “oddities” are part of the deal with Moto Guzzi.
I have the V100s. It's fun, you have to be firm with the 1 to 2 shift. I get a lot of people checking it out. The look seems to resonate with a lot of people. The world it changed was Moto Guzzi's, their first modern engine ever. It finally brought the brand into the 21st century.
It's a great looking thing, I love it, just can't afford it lol
While liquid cooling is nice, I don't think you need it to be considered modern. The new 2024 v85tt has a pretty advanced engine while still being air-cooled. Semi dry sump, variable valve timing among other modern touches.
Moto Guzzis might have their "quirks", but they have built very strong engines for a very long time.
Happy new year! Cheers to 2024. 🎉
happy new years to you as well!!
ive watched just about all your videos and my piggy bank is growing in anticipation to finally buy my motorcycle. hopefully by spring ill have enough for a 390 duke. did msf already everything is moving towards that first day and youve been a big part.
This has been posted on other Guzzi videos but bears repeating here.
Ride a Guzzi for an hour, you’ll say;”This is weird!”
Ride a Guzzi for an afternoon, you’ll say; “I could get used to this!”
Ride a Guzzi for a day, you’ll say; “I’m never riding anything else!”
Completely agree. They’re just different in a good way.
Haha, agree 100%. Spot on
Lol, one of my friend said the same thing
It’s not for douchebags, it’s for people who appreciate unique, sweet style and ride quality. I love mine❤
I recently picked up a V85 after looking at bikes for a friend who wanted to get back onto two wheels. Now we both have one, and I'm looking forward to many miles touring as the Guzzi Bros. It only took me about 20 minutes of test ride to know I loved that machine. Now the question is, does the GSA get replaced by a Stelvio?
I got the red one last year (2023). Specced it with heated grips and the media mod. I fell in love with the looks of it, but I've grown to love it more and more over several thousand miles. The rear shock is a bit harsh for UK roads so I'll probably replace that, but the forks are sweet. Got the panniers for free in the deal and I love the way they just slot directly into the bike, so that when you remove them there's no ugly hardware left on the bike. It's practical for scratching, touring and even city commuting, being so well balanced and smooth at small throttle openings. From all reports, the quickshifter on the 'S' model isn't particularly great so I'll pass on that. As for the 'adaptive aerodynamics', I have them switched off except for 'rain' mode, where they do a fantastic job of keeping your crotch dry - and you can't put a price on that!
It looks awesome! Lucky guy
@@P-A-X- Thanks! Still loving it every day!
Running dry balls is pretty priceless, one wouldn't the lads in prune mode at the end of the day.
The quick shifter is a joke. My only criticism of this beautiful bike.
I figured as much on the wings. RAIN.
I have a tracer 9 and a moto guzzi v85tt. Both great bikes. But here's the difference I've experienced personally. The tracer is as good today, 35k miles later, as the day I got it. But after 25k miles, the v85tt keeps getting BETTER. Like wearing in some jeans, or a leather jacket. My Japanese bikes start out good and stay good forever. But my guzzis start out barely good enough and become great. It's weird. Just my experience. But I noticed Yammie alluding to it in the video. The more he rode the guzzi, the more he wanted to get to know it. That's how they git you, man!
Well said Sir.
When I drive a non Guzzi I always feel like there is something missing. And I also feel like their air cooled engines only work better after 25k miles or so.
That’s very interesting but . . . I feel the same way about my Africa Twin DCT. I own four bikes and I immediately felt at home on the other three; for the Africa Twin I suffered immediate buyer’s remorse. It took me a full season and over 20 000 kilometers to fall for the bike and now, I absolutely love the thing.
@@RoellieV96 I'm currently at 35k on my v7 III and it is buttery smooth
When I first got it I honestly thought it was gonna blow into pieces whenever I was at highway speeds
My friend always buys BMW and tells me they are a much better bike after 25000 miles. Trouble is that's about when he trades in for his new bike.😅
Keep the rider mode button pressed in for two seconds whilst riding & the menu will take you straight to windscreen adjust.
Mandello is the best bike of 2023. No question about it! Amazing bike
Owned many bikes over the years, but the Guzzi is the only one I can honestly say brings a smile to my face every time I ride it.
I have the Navale which is between rhe standard and the S models. It has heated grips, tire pressure monitor but not the active suspension nor all the connectivity to phones and other electronics. I owned several BMW Airheads and the V100 has nowhere near the torque reactions that those had so I don't even notice it. Shaft jacking is also something I don't notice either. Guzzi lengthened the shaft to virtually eliminate that trait as well. Your missing a few shifts is probably typical of non Guzzi riders. There is a technique to shift smoothly and quietly but in your defense Guzzi gearboxes take some mileage before they get good and nice to shift. I am on my third Guzzi but still own two, I traded my T120 for my V100 and now I wouldn't own anything but a Guzzi. Guzzis shouldn't be judged on a short ride they grow on you with time. You might meet the nicest people on a Honda but you meet the most interesting people on Guzzis. Glad you enjoyed it. By the way Mandello de Lario is where they are handbuilt by many of the townfolk.
That was a selling point for me. The fact that they're still made in their home country with pride. You increasingly don't see that as much nowadays.
So I’ve got a 2015 Ducati Diavel and sold a Panagale V2 to get the V100-S and I couldn’t be happier. I’ve had two friends who have spent many hours on my Diavel but prefer the riding characteristics of the V100. The Diavel is still my first love but the V100 seems to do everything right. And, it’s one of the most beautiful bikes on the road.
This is a great perspective to read as the Diavel is my dream bike but the V100 is climbing up there also!
@@TheFirstCause They have different personalities and I adore them both. The V100 feels lighter and more nimble likely due to shorter wheel base and rake while the Diavel feels more planted/stable in a turn. Both are good all-rounders but the Diavel’s absurd but manageable power dominates. The V100’s strength is flexibility.
Happy shopping!
Just because Yammie is repeating it several times: The engine on this bike isn't transversally mounted, it's mounted longitudinally. The same as BMW Boxer engines. It's the orientation of the crankshaft what is deteminating the terminology for the mountig of the engine, not the orientation of the cylinders. Harleys (for example) have transversally mounted engines.
Not according to the Italian definition which disregards the crankshaft direction@ goes with the cylinder direction. But does it matter?
Moto Guzzi is not having a problem selling the V100 Mandello. I wanted to get the S model but settled for the Navale model because delivery of a S was uncertain it has the heated grips and tire pressure monitoring. The gear box does break in after about 1000 miles. Motorcycling isn’t always about money. I hope more manufacturers try different things like Moto Guzzi did with this bike.
This is not a dumb or cool way of building a motorcycle as Yammie claims, a longitudinal V-twin like the Guzzi (no, it is not transverse..) is the most logical way to build a shaft driven air-cooled V-twin (yes, I know, it is liquid-cooled now, but that's how it all started in 1967). Firstly, the crankshaft is now in line with the drive shaft, so you need only one 90 degree transmission, i.e. at the rear wheel. Secondly a V-twin is the most vibration free twin layout. My 1972 Moto Guzzi Ambassador is completely vibration free at its sweet spot of 3,500 rpm. Thirdly both cylinders now have optimal cooling, unlike e.g. the Harley V-twins or even parallel twins. Fourthly it is the most accessible layout to adjust the tappets. And finally you can warm your hands on the cylinder heads when it is cold outside 🙂.
This guy gets it.
Yes, all those things plus the bike is extra sensitive to rider input. Longitudinal crankshaft gyroscope effect does not oppose..
No gyroscopic effect from the motor to stabilize the ride. It lets the motorcycle go from one side to the other quicker then one would expect. Same for the boxster on the GS - and it is one of the reasons why people are often surprised by how nimble the GS feels compared to the weight.
I just bought a BMW 1250GS and I too still find it hard to believe how agile it is
Boxer, not boxster, and it's not a GS engine, the boxer engine and shaft layout has been around since the 1920's.
Don’t forget the longitudinal mounted engines on the old K bikes.
I love my V100S!
It’s my first Guzzi and I can shift without missing a gear, and I love the cruise control a lot!
I hope to see your review of an S model!!
It’s clear he really likes the bike, but being the type of guy he is, ie “to cool for school “ , just had to find fault where there isn’t. He’s complaining about the price?? It’s an outstanding Italian sport tour for under 16k for gods sake! It’s a shame Yam is so popular in this industry, as he really doesn’t do new riders a favor.
A "Hand Made" Italian sport tourer for under $16k
Bought the Mandello S model this past month. Completed the break in service and now just get out on the road and really enjoy riding it. The wings you don't notice so much because it hits where your love handles and waist line would be and that is usually covered by your riding jacket. Find a cold day or a rainy day and you'll notice it then. I don't have the missing gear in shift problem you seemed to have had. While I don't have the proper miles on the bike yet to truly break the QS shifter in, it seems to thrive on higher rpms to upshift and dropping rpms to down shift. The problem you had with the windshield is you didn't work the controls on the left. It cycles right through or the long push on the mode button. Love the active suspension, heated grips. I have heated gloves that take care of the back of the hands, the grips take care of the undersides, it balances quite nicely on a cool day. The more I ride this bike the better I love it. I am very happy with this bike. It just works and it grows on you.
One other thing I've noticed about this bike. You don't get the buffeting approaching a semi on the interstate nor the crosswinds. The bike just ignores it like it doesn't exist. On crosswinds, it doesn't push the bike but instead pushes me.
That's actually a longitudinal motor, the topology is dependant on the direction of the crankshaft relative to the direction of the bike.
The default engine configuration is transverse, like a transverse inline 4 on a superbike, where the crankshaft is side to side.
Longitudinal motors are the Moto Guzzi V-twins, the BMW and Honda Boxers and the Triumph rocket, where the crankshaft is parallel with the bike, almost every other motor is transverse.
On the pages for the definitions of each engine layout you will find these:
"A transverse engine is an engine mounted in a vehicle so that the engine's crankshaft axis is perpendicular to the direction of travel."
"In automotive engineering, a longitudinal engine is an internal combustion engine in which the crankshaft is oriented along the long axis of the vehicle, from front to back."
Cylinder configuration is irrelevant to the directional topology.
Absolutely. This nonsense is most irritating. Unfortunately, the factory seems to refer to it as transverse also. Bah.
It's called a transverse v-twin because the 'v' is tranverse.
The owners manual of my V9 lists the engine as being "traverse", meaning: something that crosses or lies across, NOT transverse, which means set crosswise, or made at right angles to the long axis of the body. Let's take a 1965 Mustang as an example. The inline 6 cylinder is longitudinally mounted because that's how the crankshaft is pointing. The V-8 is then considered transverse because the cylinders point to the sides? No, the crankshaft is still aligned with the long axis of the body. Generally speaking, if a vehicle has a driveshaft to the rear wheel(s), the engine is mounted longitudinally. The Suzuki Boulevard is one of the few exceptions to this rule. The Guzzis, Honda GL series, and BMW K series and airheads, all have longitudinally mounted engines. 99.9% of all other motorcycles have transversely mounted engines. Transverse mounting is the norm, that doesn't mean you can change the definition of the word.
@@984francis I think because someone popularised the misnomer and the factory decided it's easier to go with it than correct it.
Someone thought the transverse was about cylinders when it's actually about the crankshaft, because in most vehicles the crankshaft and the cylinders are always in the same alignment so the distinction isn't necessary but V-twins have the offset back to front cylinder configuration so they got confused and called that longitudinal.
@@johnlebeau5471 I think the best way to help people differentiate the difference between Transverse and Longitudinal engines is to look at the large Honda V4s which are used in both configurations. The VFR has the conventional Transverse V4, with cylinder heads directed forward and back, while the ST1300 has the Longitudinal engine with the heads poking out the sides like a Moto Guzzi.
The following are quotes from the Wikipedia pages for the ST1100/ST1300 and the VFR1200.
"The ST1100 had a 1,085 cc longitudinal 90-degree V4 engine."
"The Honda VFR1200F is the 7th generation Honda sport touring motorcycle from the VF and VFR line motorcycles powered by a transverse mounted V4 engine."
Just look at it dude. This is the best looking dad bike I've ever seen and it's not even close.
i know they are quirky bikes but i like different , i love them. Id ride this all day. Id take a Griso too. Would fit right in with my Buell and Triumph 955i. It would give me one belt one chain and one shaft. Just two wheels with so many variants and possibilities, yet only a special few have such character in spades
Did you eventually figure out how to operate the windshield? It's really not that hard.
Does it need an allen key?
@@splodge57 no, it needs something much harder to operate: an opposable thumb
Cruise control works the, same, exact, way, on the RS660. I read the manual the day I got it. I rented a previous gen Tuono and it worked the same way. Not sure why our Papa Yam's can't figure it out. You need to read the manual with the current generation of motorcycles with all their electronics. Beyond riding them, none are intuitive once you need to enter menu's.
It appears to be the prettiest sportiest sport touring bike with beautiful low maintenance single side shaft drive. Easy valve service too.
I've just bought a V100 S.
It's awesome. I love it!
The reason Sport Touring is not high in America is the abysmal lack of vacation time. I've had 2 Moto-Guzzis, done about 20,000 miles on them and I've never noticed the engine affecting lean in a corner. I'm no racer but I was always scraping stuff so it's not that I was riding gently.
100%. If I got more time off I'd be riding cross country at least once a year.
If you don't need the "wings" just disable them. Other reviewers have noticed that at low temps, they defect cold air away from their knees.
And rain from knees and crutch in a shower..
I've put 5,300 miles on my v100 , and yes shifting is clunky. SW motek 15mm lower pegs. Arrow ti/carbon muffler adds some nice bark. The brakes are awesome ! Worse thing about it is the gas gage. The wings do work but I'd rather have a larger tank without the wings. I love mine ! Mandelo is name of town it's from.
I heard that the gearbox gets a lot better as it gets broken in, particularly the quickshifter. What's your experience?
@@operator0 it is getting better and I don't have the quick shifter but do plan to buy one. The shift from 1st to 2nd is really the only problem, after that it's fine.
The easiest way to design a shaft drive motorcycle is to have the engine mounted transversely. BMWs are the same as the Mandello, just with a boxer twin instead of a V-twin. The Triumph Tiger 1200 has to add a ring and pinion gear to enable a shaft drive. For touring, I think shaft drives are great. I've literally had to wheel my bike around a gas station stopping every few feet to spray lube on the chain.
Great review. Liked the 911 comparison. My neighbour had a new Guzzi Le Mans in the 70s, it looked so exotic compared to everything else those days and he regularly pulled 130mph with his wife on the back.
I can see Yammie aging little by little every video haha
Good review buddy.
I'm a Tracer 9GT owner but am tempted by the Mandello. It's a gorgeous looking bike. I have a dealership near me so really ought to take a test ride. Oh, BTW, happy new year!
I'm at 12,500 miles on my V100 Mandello S. Doing great. Did a peaceful 350 mile ride today as a final one for 2023.
Houston, Texas
So, since my last comment I've taken delivery of my S model, ridden around Scotland a bit (where I live), and more recently spent a month touring Spain on it, including the famous MA-10 Sa Calobera road on Mallorca 👌. I love it, and you're bang on the money: it is a slow burn.
Anyone serious about traveling significant distances on a motorcycle needs shaft or belt drive. Really, after riding 500 or 600 miles in a day, do you want to have to be out in the motel parking lot cleaning, lubing, and adjusting your motorcycle's chain, especially when most motorcycles don't even have a centerstand anymore? No thank you. Chain drive is moronic except for use on a racetrack. Think about it: a vehicle in the 21st Cenutry with an exposed final drive which requires cleaning, lubrication, and adjustment every 500 miles, and replacement every 15,000 to 20,000 miles. At least some manufacturers in the early/mid 20th Century made attempts at enclosed chain drives. By accepting exposed chain drives, you're just giving motorcycle manufacturer's an excuse to cut manufacturing costs, while you suffer the inconvenience and cost of maintaining and replacing a glorified bicycle chain on a motorcycle that cost you $10k to $20k.
I am amazed of how it's similar to my '07 breva 1100. It's a good old chonky v twin that oozes history. Same shake, similar sound, only less clunkiness.
WAAAAAAA. I never hear you complain about the Harley gear box Japanese bike shift best. Love my v85tt Guzzi. Have owned Yam, Kaw and HD but prefer Guzzi.
I have driven 5000km on my own Mandelo and never once have I missed a gear.
You did miss an "L", though
Delighted to see a Yammy review on a machine I am somewhat familiar with, to give me a better idea of his perspective. Keep 'em comin' Yammy!
Beautiful bike! Very nice! Happy new year Yam!
Test rode one of these a few days ago... BEST sounding stock exhaust. PERIOD. Recordings don't do it justice. Planning on getting an S in the spring.
The colour is the same as the 1976 Moto Guzzi 850 Le Mans which was an awesome bike for its time.
Honda made a transverse V twin years ago in 500cc and 650cc capacities as well as a turbo version. They were good bikes for the time.
Mate of mine had a cx550. It was a great bike.
CX500 then CX650.... Custom, standard and Turbo versions.
@@michellevesque2130 Those Turbos were widow makers. My housemate's mate bought one back in the early 90's. He kept it about 3 months and sold it again, declaring that it was trying to kill him.
This is the most beautiful motorcycle I've ever seen, I think. I'd buy one but there's one dealer in Washington State and I can't see myself driving into Seattle for service. One dealer does not a network make. But I love the look has, the sound it makes, and the heritage it owns. Cool bike. No, super cool bike.
It is not the shaft drive that causes the sideways movement when accelerating, but the crankshaft in the longitudinal direction of the vehicle. But of course a cardan shaft makes a lot of sense with this engine concept. No more tensioning or maintaining the chain!
Happy new year !!! bad time yo post Yammi !
The Mandello S has character, tech, performance, quality and equipment incl. quick shifter, heated grips, electronically adjustable Ohlins, IMU, TPMS...well worth the money especially if you want to stand out from the crowd....well done Moto Guzzi for finally entering the 21st century
Just sold my beloved ‘93 Guzzi 1000S (only owner), but I’ve yet to desire any of the modern Guzzi’s. I’ve accepted the fact I’ll never find a nicer looking bike than that 1000S. I could ride that bike anywhere and steal the looks. At least I can still see it as I sold it locally 🙂
Great job on your video on the moto guzzi yam
I stopped watching your videos for a while and wow!, man you have improved a lot¡, well done! Although there is still room for improvement. Beautiful bike by the way. I think it is one of the most beautiful bikes out here.
Hey yam I love your bike reviews hope you start doing even more than usual
Motorcycle preferences are always subject. The shifting has never been a problem for me. There are a multitude of reasons for buying this bike, ask and I will share my perspective. Contrary to many reviews the engine is not transverse. Transverse or longitudinal is based on crankshaft, not the cylinders. Windscreen operation I found intuitive. I own 10 motorcycles and was a motorcycle dealer for 43 years and have been riding for 60 years.
Its an excellent bike and the reason I purchased one in red😁
Have you ridden both versions? If you have, did you notice a big difference in the suspension? I own a 1973 V7 sport, a 2017 V9 and a 2021 V85tt. The V100 will be my next addition to the Guzzi garage along with my other brand bikes. Yeah, I never sell anything, I keep adding....
@@tedmarakas2626 I only rode the base model for about 20 minutes, that is all I needed to make my decision🙂
Good for you! I wish I can buy one, some day soon. White would be my first choice, but red would be my close second!
A LeManns version based on this bike, would be nice.
I'm looking forward to the Stelvio which is stunning looking, and hopefully has a larger seat to peg distance to lessen what I felt was a fairly acute knee angle on the V100.
I'm torn between the Stelvio and my V85TT. I won't sell my V85 but I wish that it had the power rating of the Stelvio. The V100 is next on my list as a spare bike.
Don't you think it's just a matter of learning how to adjust the screen before you leave the dealer...or reading the manual maybe
Regarding the engine layout, aside from ease of maintenance (my V85TT requires a valve check every 6k miles), given Moto Guzzi history, it makes very good sense. If one wishes to run a V-twin, especially with a shaft drive, the layout is perfect. For an air cooled V-twin, having both cylinders getting equal airflow makes perfect sense. Not as necessary with liquid cooling, but still fine. Further, I've toured a lot on a Ducati Multistrada, and even with a centerstand, chain maintained is a PITA when you are covering 4-500 miles on interstate days and 250-300 on good ones. I've only had the V85 for a couple weeks now, but I'm looking forward to a 2,500 odd mile Colorado trip where the chain isn't an issue. Of course, my current "big mile" bike is an R1250 GSA, so my thoughts probably don't map to your applications on a 1:1 basis.😊
It takes about 3k miles before the gearbox starts shifting more accurately.
It’s gorgeous, reminds me of the Le Mans 3. Perfect for European touring with lots of small windy roads
valve is shims on the water cooled tappets for air cooled
Had the opportunity to test drive this rig while my dealer’s mechanic did the scheduled maintenance on my V7 Stone. One word: great.
Seriously, I have no bad comment about the V100. And that might be the problem: it might be "too" polished. At a point where it might lack a tad of soul and character.
I have 3 Guzzis. V9, V85TT and a 1973 V7 sport. I don't like polished, over sanitized bikes. However, the analog age for motorcycles is almost over, soon they will come with back scratchers as standard equipment.
@@tedmarakas2626 That 73 must be one charming gem! 😳
It is. Very fun bike to ride. It certainly has its place in motorcycle history@@jaybou007
I was afraid of the same thing too... untill I test rode one. No... it 's not "too polished". It is just perfect. Polished enough not to give you a hard time, but at the same time "raw" and characterful so as not to forget that you are riding a (big) bike, and not a blender.
Oh... and THAT sound... something between an old factory and a modern spaceship...
Looks Stunning, but it is a shame that you cannot get the S Model in Red.
If you opened the users manual before driving, you would know about the controls. Did you expect a separate button for every feature?
It's actually quite easy to raise the windshield when driving. The control is the arrow buttons on the the left. On the S model there are even more features controlled by the buttons.
In Europe the base model is noe sold with gested grips and seat as standard.
Yes, you suck in handling the gearbox or you got bad or damaged bike, however some of the v100 has been delivered with a badly adjusted clutch.
There's a way to never miss a gear again, and it's incredibly easy: keep pressure on the gear lever as you release the clutch. Every time you feel the lever click the rest of the way as you release the clutch, congratulations - you've just avoided a missed gear. Try it, practice it, and never miss a gear again.
Maybe not a sled video, but I've bought myself a sled for my A2 licence and I love it. Thanks Yammie
So I came from a tracer 9gt to get the v85tt. I wanted a good all around bike that had more character. This was before the mandello and soon to come stelvio was announced but still love the bike. A cat delete and ECU tune gives it about the mandello power. Honestly can’t see myself getting another do everything bike. I will say 1-2 is something to get used to. I figured out pre-loading the shifter helped out a ton! Ok long winded comment over
I have a v7 850 with pipes, filter and a tune and it's a hoot. Tranny is definitely chunky but once I got used to it, its fine.
Where did you get ecu mod ?
@@kevinlunney5608 I found it on Vivid racing. The brand is called upmap. You order the tuner and it comes with whatever exhaust setup you have on the bike and it saves the factory tune for you to switch back to. After it gets downloaded onto the tuner it’s pretty plug and play
A retro modern take on a beautiful motorcycle! And come on dude I’m a 61 yr old tech idiot & I was able to figure out switch gear & use windshield. So many TH-cam idiots lol , but I digress it’s the spiritual successor of a VFR & until Honda builds one this is it !
I'm 50 and don't want any electronics or rider aids. They all make the riding numb and sanitized. Zero character.
@@tedmarakas2626
Well, I’m fortunate enough to have a 14 VFR & a Bonneville T120 & the simplicity is nice , but the interface on the V100 in no way at all diminishes the character of this motorcycle
Love that bike ❤❤❤
Happy New Year!
Nice extended review. I test rode one two months ago, and although I am short and usually dislike heavy and tall bikes... I had a blast with Mandello and did not want to get off it. I can only describe it as a "sensensional" bike! As for the gearbox, you just need to be a bit more positive and decisive when you make the change. Maybe it seems awkward when you directly compare it with Japanese bikes, but you get used to it and then never miss a gear, and ultimately.... forget about it.
As for the price... yeah... it is the only thing that stops me (so far) from owning one!
Maybe MotoGuzzi should have another version without the aeros and a couple of grands cheaper. Or hopefully they get the same package on a new Grizo V100.
Have a V7, absolutely love the character of a Moto Guzzi..no other bike I’ve had or ridden stirs my soul like a MG. So when this guy says “it’s not groundbreaking, or amazing” I feel like he’s the kind of dude who wears socks to bed and puts ketchup on his hot dogs.
Having owned a Mandello S since July of last year I can say I haven't noticed any of the shaft jacking effect on throttle that you mentioned.
He's actually wrong and I think jumping to conclusions based on the myth that all shaft drives are the same. The drive shaft is lower than normal and this pretty much eliminates drive shaft jacking. And yes, I own one 😊
My modified 2007 Suzuki Bandit 1250 weighs about the same, puts out 140, tons of torque, worth maybe 5K, and is more satisfying and comfortable than any bike in the world. The real price is that nobody will look twice at it... I see this as paying 10K more to impress other people (I'd prefer riding my Bandit) which sometimes may be worth the ROI, but I'd go in knowing that was the value proposition with my eyes wide open.
Holy shit... An affordable euro V twin litre bike? This might be my next motorcycle.
Do it, got rid of my 2019 Speed Triple 1050 RS for one and I've been smiling ever since😊
@@havolia127 I'm not really a fan of 3 cylinders. Large v twins and v4's have the perfect balance of torque and HP. Plus this bike is a beautiful work of art.
@@cookinsdabestI agree, still breaking her in😊
Guzzis are full of character and they grow on you. They are simply different than anything else out there.
The bulk of the engine is far forward giving the front end lots of grip. I ride lots of country back roads and it holds a line through rough corners.
Happy new year to all my fellow motorbike riders. In my opinion the engine is not a transversal mounted engine, but longitudinal. Correct me if i'm wrong. I've seen the subject has allready been discussed.
It IS a longitudinal engine, as the crank is longitudinal. It's referred to as a 'Transverse V-Twin' to indicate that the 'V' is transverse. Both are correct, but some people are really getting their panties in a bunch over this.
I know, and that's not worth it @@rickparkinmoto
Tested one when mine were in for service. Absolutely loved it and wish i could afford one to have on the side of my mainbike.
The narrator's comments re: his preferences about shaft-drives and the wind deflectors are not relevant. An ego the size of a '56 Buick and a lover of the sound of his own voice over-whelm the so-called review.
Do your homework Yammie Noob. That is not the only motorcycle sold brand new with a transverse V-twin. In fact, all Moto Guzzi's have a transverse V-twin, and have had for about 60 years. This makes sense, because they are all shaft driven. That said, that is the only liquid-cooled motor they produce at present, so it is unique in their lineup (new Stelvio is likely to be liquid cooled as well though). If Euro emission standards keep increasing, we may see the whole lineup of Guzzi's take the plunge.
Nice review. Would a Honda VFR 800 be a better bike?
Moto Guzzi is the legend. I will buy one definitely.
@yammienoob would you get the MG V100 over a Ducati Multi V2?
I like the V100 but have trust issues with Piaggio products. I had a 22 Tuono V4 that was a lemon.
Windshield is activated by a switch on the left bar
Nice bike. I drove a V7 for a few years. It’s like HD or Triumph you have to buy into the brand.
@mar0364 ... so true, it's all about 'connecting' with the bike (regardless of brand or model). Unfortunately some of these reviews aren't true reviews, but just moto journo impressions, and don't do justice to the brand because they just don't 'get it'. The 'now I get it' feeling takes time to happen, but when it does then you become part of the motorcycle. Not just the bike, but the tires you ride on, the gear you wear ... the sum of all the parts.
active aero, shaft drive and a transverse V twin? this thing is something else!
And lack of dealerships is something else again.
Being Italian, it's CB probably a blessing it doesn't have all the electrical heated stuff. Could disappoint.
8:38 that van with a handyman ad is hilarious .
I wish "road testers" would stop banging there gums about the moto guzzi rolling back on fore on tick over etc I got a V9 and don't notice anything Ive also had many shaft drives and never noticed this lift?
I like full fairing standard bikes like the Suzuki gsx1000f and the Aprilia 600
As you grow older, myself 50yrs old, you will find that comfort and character will be far higher on your list. I'm done with the sport bikes even though I still own two Aprilia Tuonos V2, 2008 factory and 2007 standard. Still fun riding them but after an hour or two.....I'd rather be on my 3 Guzzis.
Good vid, it is beautiful, no doubt, from my point of view, gorgeous, I've had over 70 bikes, none Moto guzzi, but have ridden, quirky but fun, and I do agree with you, grows on you...
Strange video. You start with an error, it's not a transversal v-twin as the crankshaft is in the same direction as the general driving direction. Then your initial judgement is you don' like it, mainly because it would lose power in the shaft drive but than all your driving experience is one great celebration of lovely experiences. And learn to shift.
I remember when Honda made a configuration like that. CX, I believe it was.
Gorgeous design. Throw back to the LeMans but with a more upright bar setup. Like I said, gorgeous bike
Like your reviews
😅😅😅😅Yammie, I have a Harley Fat Bob 114 I love the looks and torque! but in love with the V100 and its zen action, I can't make a choice... greetings Steven from Belgium