Doesn't matter now literally a TH-camr a week ago cracked a version of the formula and it has already patented it. Her family waiting to sell this formulation literally has cost them.
Starlite could also save people's life in a lot of applications, but i guess money is of more importance than humans' life. The thing is that they're neither getting money nor are they doing anything good for the world.
from what i understand from previous reports its quite the opposite hes been offered huge royalties and cheques and turned them all down because where as he wants the world to benefit from it companies would just want to proffit of it some would actually go so far as to buy the formula from him then have him restricted by a nda to never disclose the recipie ever again and then charge a fortune for it hes always said he wants "the right" people to get the recipie and he hopes it would benefit all of humanity also its clearly not greed if they wont even sell it also just off the clues she seems to be hinting at it being obvious i just cant think what white substance youd give to dogs and horses my best bets are flour?(some feeds would contain it but she makes it sound like its fed raw to them) cornstarch?(again but why would you feed that to a dog) rawhide(dogs maybe horses doubtfull)
@@JAAAProductionsES im guessing possibly flour or starch or a powdered ingredient similar. its just the binding agent they use. cant be water so it must be some form of glue or glycerin, glycerol, anything. thats where it gets complicated since any product can be manipulated in stages of certain things. so its finding the exact properties and how the properties were chosen during process.
To be honest, the inventor and his daughter both seem rather daft. What use is having this invention if you don't do anything with it because you're always holding out for the perfect conditions or the perfect deal? They're getting beat to market by others, and by then it doesn't matter if Starlite is the original formulation or even the objectively best thermal insulator. Third-parties will definitely want to deal with people who are willing to make accomodations and make things happen quick, rather than these stubborn fools and their secret-formula. "A good plan...executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - George S. Patton
There aren't any flaws I can find with your post. :) I completely agree with what you are saying. So many amateurs are making stuff like it. Hell. Even I've made high temp refractory ceramic from scratch (obviously different than Starlite). It's nothing special or amazing. It just works and that's all that matters. If someone comes along and makes something similar enough to Starlite, then why use Starlite. They missed that bus.
Or they sold to military. Plus independent inventors should get paid, big firms flex slimy lawyers, and everyone else is out to get paid. Government should be able to arbitrate, give reasonable amount, then compel disclosure of public interest invention.
not entireley sure why they dont release the recipe as public domain if they want everyone to benefit but im wondering if perhaps they want the ability to choose how it gets used and prevent certain people from using it like idk they dont want starlite used for military application cause even the inventor of the atomic bomb hated what he had created after he saw the first explosion
First I could be funny if someone patentet there version and that resulted in that Starlite could not be produced because they ware to similar. :-) An other thing, there have to be something "wrong" since they have not tried to get money out of it, it could have earned them trillions, think of all the spaceprograms in the world like NASA, the military all around the world, fire safety and millions of other uses! What can make one holding back that knowledge what is in it or what is there about it that could make som one rather wisch to keep it a secret rather then getting more money then Bill Gate could ever dream of?
@@friedmule5403 funny you mention that nasa has something like this already thats way better theyve been experimenting with ceramic foams and got far more impressive results because not only do they get the same results they get it at a fraction of the weight anouther company has aerogel which is amazingly light like i think a 1mx1mxm1 cube of it only weights a couple grams there stuff however looks like it would be quite heavy what i do find funny is how she thinks that even though they know whats in it they dont know the formulation as if science cant figure that out infact scientists would have a better understanding of what each ingridient does and how they can taylor the properties by adjusting the ratios infact its even possible science could invent a better formulation than she has or even combine it with other technologies like foams to make it better idk what the deal is my only guess is so far the companies who have asked have wanted them to sell the recipie and never divulge it and there perhaps fearfull the recipie would be locked away forever in some companies vault or sold at a inflated rate but then she could just release it as public domain idk i also wanna call bs but like others have said its real and underwent testing to confirm it maybe its just so common they wanna keep quiet cause it infact already exists
2:42 Notice her facial expressions and lip trembling when they ask if there's glue in the formula. It's always been made of household goods, and we know that now. The EXACT formula may or may not ever be discovered, but the finished product is nothing all that special in terms of ingredients used. The family is only perpetuating a sham.
Starlite isn't about the ingredients... It about the principal of how it works... It creates a carbon foam that dissipates heat really fast protecting whatever is on the other side. It's most likely baking soda or some gas producing substance and an aggregate which produces the carbon and a binder which holds everything together. The substance acts as a ablative heat shield much like PICA-X.
Interesting. Baking soda and epoxy combined becomes super hard. If one made beads of unset epoxy in shells of baking soda that fracture with heat or something like that . . . I've wondered if he used ground egg shells as well.
So this stuff contains something like corn starch or flour. I can't think of many applications for a coating like that. It wouldn't weather too well. Also, that family really annoys me. They claim that their product can save thousands of people (a dubious claim) yet they refuse to do anything with it. So within their framing (how they present things; not necessarily reality), they're basically allowing thousands to die due to their greed. Good job on that.
You can use borax instead. All it needs is to form lots of carbon when subject to heat, which is almost all organic compunds. It's really not all that difficult and it's a joy to work with. Add some WC and you get a very very tough material.
@@bikedawg A utility patent needs to be something "novel". And "non-obvious". I doubt they would meet that criteria. What they have is a recipe, so they would keep it as a trade secret....but it's hard to sell a secret while keeping it a secret.
@@fredygump5578starlite is such a simple material that a hairdresser can create it it just consists of a material extremely high in carbon, glue and a rising agent which creates a carbon foam when heated since carbon has the highest melting point (>5500 *C) and good insulating properties, that’s the reason why starlite is effective
Pretty sick that they've held onto that for so long since as they've watched thousands of people lose their houses, friends, family and lives to fires. Greed is a very sad thing.
Cornstarch, Baking Soda, PVA Glue, mix into a putty, done. If you want to make it edible, bake the cornstarch, then mix in the baking soda and add water.
So they sold the intellectual rights but the family retains a better formula? I believe that it’s been figured out and instead of letting the family legacy die, they just say it’s a secret. I don’t think that lady is innovating any new formulations or uses. High powered laser attacks at 4:15 also sounds like anti-missile or aircraft defense systems. I bet this is already in use somehow.
high powered laser attack is just shining a powerful laser at it for 0.1s just shining it for 0.1s isn’t gonna prove how it can withstand 10000 *C as they claim, since even wood can survive these lasers
Seriously man. The formula has been out for more than 2 months. The basics are cornstarch, pva glue and baking soda. You can add other heat retardant materials to toughen it up but those 3 are it. 15% baking soda, 85% cornstarch and as much pva glue until it feels like putty. Not very scientific I know but it works like a charm. I added fibre glass to give it more structure and I'm working with wolfram carbide to make it more like concrete. Works like a charm.
@@IamCrass but as i understood, the baking soda reacts making carbondioxide creating an insulating membrane or something like that, can borax do that too? I dont know how exactly borax work, as i cant make pastry with it XD
Since when does borax have carbon atoms? Borax has no carbon, at all. Did you test it? The actual way as I know it is adding some borax to the recipe with baking soda. It makes the Starlite more stable and long lasting. Most of the carbon atoms come from the cornstarch anyways.
I first heard about Starlite as an indestructible material in the late 1980's in a Canadian talk show and never forgot the name. This is the first time I hear about it again since then.
@@gigantkranion He meant a bit too late as similar stuff are being made already with starch etc (like one video shown). If she has some nice formula why not ignite mob curiosity and give a show one more time? Why? Because as someone here said its super easy to do - so no one would buy this from them and just make their own. Its probably the same stuff that ppl already doing it with starch etc - so very easy to repeat and not so easily to patent.
One thing worth thought is all the corn starch and PVA variants are thickly applied to the eggs, the Tomorrows world footage from the early 90's the egg is painted with a thin coat of Starlite. There is also what we can assume is footage here on this site of the Atomic research Establishment experiments bombarding Starlite with high powered lasers simulating an atomic weapon flash for a 5 second exposure, it was still not defeated. I do not deny it was made from a simple list of ingredients, and it is far superior to the modern variants that have popped up recently for our viewing. But I believe its biggest downfall would have been its organic elements that may have had a shelf life meaning it degraded in a short period of time to useless.
Formula is baking soda 8 oz. corn starch 1oz and Elmer’s white glue mix the dry ingredients than add Elmer’s glue until you can mold it like putty... let it dry inside for 24 hrs. The putty should be tested outside to make sure you added the ingredients correctly. In addition never use it a a protective device as the time it remains fire retardant is limited. If it works the heated source should create carbon and should prevent the heat from getting to the other side. No warranty is given for the formulation and always respect fire. It’s a great experiment you should have a heat gun to see if your product meets the heat requirements you are testing!! The most important part is not too much glue and it must not be moist after 24 hrs. If it is you used too much glue.
They’re being very selfish. Especially their late Dad. This could have saved countless lives. Their loss though, there’s now other products on the market.
@@AG.Floats that's just a claim. The basic concept is just a carbon and Co2 producing material. We can make multiple variations of this that allready work just as well. Seen a 3 ingredient version withstand thermite. So I say the 20 ingredient thing is just a hoax to protect their incredibly simple recipe. And if there is any truth to it being all nateral and edible then that limits ingredients a bit.
What I found interesting is how the "what is in it" was downplayed to a "how it is put together" explanation. This tells me she knows people other than her family and business associates have figured out the basic formula.
Try make your own (corn starch60% of the cup, baking soda 10%, and white glue add until like play dough) Keeping an invention or a discovery to your self will only delay it others will discovery it or invent it and maybe better than yours. It's impossible for one human to think of something that another human will not think of the difference is if he's different from the other human and share it.
@@epicrandomness5907 You're right! If Nighthawkinlight found someone else's formula, he wasn't the first to recreate it. That's some profound logic you're dropping. Of course, you just copied your inane comment from someone else, that is if you found someone else saying the same thing.
I don't think anyone should claim it, it's already too late it's karma against the family who kept on holding it for greed trying to mask it as contribution to society they are full of crap from toes to the hair in their heads.
everybody: tell us the recipe Maurice & his family: no the internet: we made starlite cause you wouldn't tell us Maurice & his family: wait what V2 Maurice & his family: nooo you can't just recreate starlite Internet: haha starlite go brrrrr
The only reason she is hiding the recipe is because the premise is so simple that you couldn't possibly patent it since patents are so specific. There are many released recipes online for starlight and most, if not all use the basic premise of forming a carbon layer that will protect from heat, while also releasing co2 to stop the other ingredients from igniting. The most basic form of this is of course; Baking soda, cornstarch and PVA glue as a binder. But there are many substitutes (can't think of an example rn) that could also give the same result So when the original recipe is released to the market, thousands of companies will just create a different version of it and they can't be taken to court since it wasn't the original recipe that they patented. (and you can't patent an idea) This is only my theory, but it seems quite logical. It would explain why not only Maurice but his daughter and other family members were so reluctant to give away anything. And it really feels like Nicole is lying about the recipe with that smug smirk. Why don't you just do the world a favor and release the recipe instead of being so selfish and money hungry. It has the potential to save thousands of lives.
baking soda + cornstrach + pva glue make keep adding glue until u can play with the mixture like dough wait to dry 24 hours and u are done u have starlight
I think Starlite is just sodium bicarbonate, glue, and corn starch. Regardless, all they are creating is black carbon when it meets the flame. Carbon is indeed an amazing element, which could be better utilized for refractory uses. I already had the idea of mixing activated charcoal into a refractory mix. I want to build a rocket mass heater and use refractory cement, fireclay, and activated carbon for a refractory mix in the heat riser. This is why I find Starlite so fascinating. Because even retail refractory cement and firebrick is only rated for less than 1500°C. Elemental carbon doesn't even melt at 3000°C, although it does have a sublimation point of 3642°C.
Spoiler, it's baking soda and nail glue (superglue reacts too fast to spread it on anything). Potassium carbonate would probably work better than baking soda as a fire retardant since since the unspent potassium bicarbonate from the reaction is the same stuff used in PKP fire extinguishers.
If the finished product is edible, then where would you be able to use it? You wouldn't be able to use it in construction or automotive applications, because it would get eaten by rodents or degrade too quickly to be beneficial. The only thing would be short term thermal protection.
Also they have not shown it after it's been exposed to weather, mechanical stress or wildlife for example. It's always shown in a TV studio. Not much coating a home in it if it simply falls off the walls, turns to paste with a bit of damp or gets eaten by mice
G'day, BINGO ! Being compounded from Cornflour/Cornstarch, Baking-Soda and water-soluble PVA Glue..., this stuff will likely be hydrophilic, so it'll turn sticky or soggy in humid weather, and probably go mouldy before falling off, or as you said - being eaten by Rodents or Birds. Perhaps it may still function as a Fire-Retardant after being sprayed on all sides with a durable Sealant...? If the "Varnish treatment" can protect the underlying Compound from moisture ingress, & from being detected as a Foodsource by Vermin, then it would be an eminently useful product... ; but the fact that it's NOT on the Shelves in every Hardware Shop, nor recommended in DIY Publications, probably means that the Sealant interferes with the "Carbon-Foaming" which is apparently crucial to the sought-after Insulating properties...(?). Such is Life, Have a good one, ;-p Ciao...!
they cant sell it because it goes off like food, deteriorates, and probably grows mold. I too wouldnt suggest painting your house with flour and water.
The only time you play games like this is when you know you don't have anything "novel". The company that purchased the formula is buying the name/legend. They may bring something to market, but if they do, it will almost certainly be their own formula with the "starlite" name attached.
This lady withholding information that could potentially stop DEATH. I hope she reads this and realizes when she watches the news and hears of a family and children burning up from something that could have been prevented with a simple product. I hope she blames herself
Calcium carbonate or diatomaceous earth mixed with cement..those are given to dogs and horses..one as a food supplement and one for getting rid of internal parasites
Even without the egg shells it’ll work just as good. The trick is the baking soda. As it starts to burn it releases carbon dioxide which prevents combustion
Yeah um intumescent paints have been a thing for many years. Also, I don't think baking soda, corn starch and PVA glue will make for good paint additives.
Considering their "Starlite" material is apparently edible, it definitely aint suitable for industrial applications outside of being a non-toxic science experiment for elementary school students, on the same level as making slime or Christmas tree ornaments made out of flour.
As I wrote elsewhere, if you use it as paint you might as well live in a gingerbread house. Exposed to the elements, it would just slowly dissolve and wash away. On the inside, it would be eaten by fungus and pests.
+Revi M Fadli Well, under a blowtorch they'd probably swell up and carbonize too, so yeah maybe. Why don't you try it, the BBC might make a doc about you.
Baking soda ( *not* powder), powdered startch (flour, corn starch) anything which leaves behind carbon structures and white paper paste (elmer's white glue). 10 (starch) to 1 (baking soda) ratio. Then add glue until doughy consistency. Form into wanted shape and let dry for 12-48 hrs.
Begs the question that if "most " of the ingredients are organic, how long would it actually last as a coating , ie as paint. i mean how could you have it in a vital room such as a kitchen, would the steam from cooking etc basically turn it into mould?
He didnt go missing, he died naturally. And his family still are the only ones who know of the ingredients officially but using simple science regarding carbon bonds we've reduced it down to its most basic elements
My guess is that starlite degrades quickly (especially considering it was made out of normal household things) or it requires very specific conditions to be effective which is why it was never comercialised
I think they tried to keep it secret, but now that people started to figure out how to make it (or something with the same properties) they are just bluffing, saying their formula is the best and nothing could ever come close to it
It's a shame this hasn't been brought to market. I'm sure we would be much further along in sciences and space than we are currently. Sadly if this is kept secret longer someone will figure out the solution and get it to market earlier rendering the better invention less worth. And it would be better to sell it as one lump sum, because of economies of scale and the seemingly readily available ingredients make it worth pennies on the litre of product.
this stuff could save lives.. YES, but not as a paint, a layer of paint is too thin, (look at the Demo tests ) the wall or building will just burn from the other side or from inside out it will, this stuff needs to be used as wall building material, like dry wall, this would contain the flame in the area where it started, used as ceiling material, and inbetween floors of a multi-story bldg
"Yeah, my mother sold them their formula, but our formula is totally better!" Yeah, nah, your formula is exactly the same, adding a pinch of salt into it ain't improving it. Also good job Maurice holding onto the formula all your life and then dying poor, because you were way too greedy and now your kids doing the same. What even is the point of waiting till your like 95 to sell it? You won't be even able to enjoy the money then anymore.
Secret? I don't think so. Have you tested the orange peel off skin? It works the same. Oh, the grapefruit skin works much better. Make sure dry them first before use. (The moisture will have thermal conductivity)
It might seem that way but the pica-x that nasa and space x uses is more fit for application. This stuff couldn't stand hitting the atmosphere at moch 10+
If it's edible it's most likely organic and so is probably not more than shelf stable, meaning I wouldn't use it on a spacecraft/aircraft. I reckon major industries realized that ages ago and the family, left without rich buyers, is trying to milk it off. But the catch is that if they sell it, then it's out if their control and they won't see a dime. Poor either way.
If Starlite is a real solution for the 21st century then they should be able to sell the material freely in the knowledge that it cannot be reverse engineered. Waiting for someone to include it in their existing manufacturing, like a paint company is a waste of time unless they understand the formulation. As a result intumescent paint stole the thunder of Starlite. There is a massive need to create Starlite structures but that is unlikely since the raw materials can be eaten by animals and bugs and therefore, is environmentally degradable. Intumescent paints are based on Ammonium polyphosphates and pentaerythritol. Both is these materials are easily included into a water-based acrylic emulsion. However, the acrylic polymer is the basis of the structure. This is flexible, combustible and essentially in an intumescent paint, known to ablate as it forms a carbon foam to create thermal resistance. Starlite would be best to include cement like formulations to the Sarlite formulation as stated above to enable thermally resistant and fire resistant products. Geopolymers can possibly be modified to achieve this. A company called CalAlSil from Australia has done just that and are creating thermally and fire resistance coatings for wood, aluminium, concrete, steel and plastic material substrates. CalAlSil cannot be reverse formulated or reverse engineered so the company is perfectly willing to sell its material to anyone who wants to buy it. In fact CalAlSil has a research program with Universities to create better testing methodologies that enable faster identification and understanding of the chemistry, physics and materials science so that low energy formulations can be mass produced in a world where energy is becoming the most constrained commodity in every society and economy.
in all these copies of starlite we must think first that starlite was tested with nuclear explosion and many other test was proven the originality of that product so for this fact we should give a big credit to the original formula rather than these copies. the are not dumb neither NASA is dumb to try it with Maurice family. the thing is startlite is truly original and unique, no more talk they know how much their formula worth
A TH-camr cracked this a week ago. And he has already filed a patent for a formulation that is coming up with. So now this family thinking that it make millions of dollars but waiting is now the s*** out of luck.
rn, I felt the market is not believing them anymore, since they said they hold the best recipe while other used same materials and make the similar things. Nobody gonna risk to spend massive money to bid if their formula is the best
@ 0:50 "Notice that I am still holding this metal"....*rollseyes* I'm sure the metal was getting hotter as the heat from the flame would have been hitting the edge of that pie plate
people like the inventor of starlite are the reason science and technology doesn't progress as fast as it should. Either they are waiting on a bigger payout.
@@XxShadow-lv1ll yeah make a law that says "a person, holding a secret recipe that was passed down by his father upon death, who does not make the recipe public shall be hanged".
I'm starting to come to the conclusion that their "better formula" is like that "girlfriend you wouldn't know because she goes to a different school"
Doesn't matter now literally a TH-camr a week ago cracked a version of the formula and it has already patented it. Her family waiting to sell this formulation literally has cost them.
Lol true
Well their formula did resist temperatures of 10 thousand Celsius.
Do other formulas get that far??
@@AG.Floats also with a paper thin application.
Jay from the in betweeners deffo knows this formula 😂
Just sounds like a family trying to be a monopoly in the industry, and ironically killed all chances of that.
Starlite could also save people's life in a lot of applications, but i guess money is of more importance than humans' life. The thing is that they're neither getting money nor are they doing anything good for the world.
from what i understand from previous reports its quite the opposite hes been offered huge royalties and cheques and turned them all down because where as he wants the world to benefit from it companies would just want to proffit of it some would actually go so far as to buy the formula from him then have him restricted by a nda to never disclose the recipie ever again and then charge a fortune for it hes always said he wants "the right" people to get the recipie and he hopes it would benefit all of humanity
also its clearly not greed if they wont even sell it
also just off the clues she seems to be hinting at it being obvious i just cant think what white substance youd give to dogs and horses my best bets are
flour?(some feeds would contain it but she makes it sound like its fed raw to them)
cornstarch?(again but why would you feed that to a dog)
rawhide(dogs maybe horses doubtfull)
@@JAAAProductionsES im guessing possibly flour or starch or a powdered ingredient similar. its just the binding agent they use. cant be water so it must be some form of glue or glycerin, glycerol, anything.
thats where it gets complicated since any product can be manipulated in stages of certain things. so its finding the exact properties and how the properties were chosen during process.
@@Dockhead close Corn starch, 10% baking soda combined with Elmer's white glue (horse glue)
Then made the formula public if he really wanted it to benefits the world.
To be honest, the inventor and his daughter both seem rather daft. What use is having this invention if you don't do anything with it because you're always holding out for the perfect conditions or the perfect deal? They're getting beat to market by others, and by then it doesn't matter if Starlite is the original formulation or even the objectively best thermal insulator. Third-parties will definitely want to deal with people who are willing to make accomodations and make things happen quick, rather than these stubborn fools and their secret-formula.
"A good plan...executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - George S. Patton
There aren't any flaws I can find with your post. :) I completely agree with what you are saying. So many amateurs are making stuff like it. Hell. Even I've made high temp refractory ceramic from scratch (obviously different than Starlite). It's nothing special or amazing. It just works and that's all that matters. If someone comes along and makes something similar enough to Starlite, then why use Starlite. They missed that bus.
Or they sold to military. Plus independent inventors should get paid, big firms flex slimy lawyers, and everyone else is out to get paid. Government should be able to arbitrate, give reasonable amount, then compel disclosure of public interest invention.
not entireley sure why they dont release the recipe as public domain if they want everyone to benefit but im wondering if perhaps they want the ability to choose how it gets used and prevent certain people from using it like idk they dont want starlite used for military application
cause even the inventor of the atomic bomb hated what he had created after he saw the first explosion
First I could be funny if someone patentet there version and that resulted in that Starlite could not be produced because they ware to similar. :-)
An other thing, there have to be something "wrong" since they have not tried to get money out of it, it could have earned them trillions, think of all the spaceprograms in the world like NASA, the military all around the world, fire safety and millions of other uses!
What can make one holding back that knowledge what is in it or what is there about it that could make som one rather wisch to keep it a secret rather then getting more money then Bill Gate could ever dream of?
@@friedmule5403 funny you mention that nasa has something like this already thats way better theyve been experimenting with ceramic foams and got far more impressive results because not only do they get the same results they get it at a fraction of the weight
anouther company has aerogel which is amazingly light like i think a 1mx1mxm1 cube of it only weights a couple grams
there stuff however looks like it would be quite heavy
what i do find funny is how she thinks that even though they know whats in it they dont know the formulation
as if science cant figure that out infact scientists would have a better understanding of what each ingridient does and how they can taylor the properties by adjusting the ratios infact its even possible science could invent a better formulation than she has or even combine it with other technologies like foams to make it better
idk what the deal is my only guess is so far the companies who have asked have wanted them to sell the recipie and never divulge it and there perhaps fearfull the recipie would be locked away forever in some companies vault or sold at a inflated rate but then she could just release it as public domain
idk i also wanna call bs but like others have said its real and underwent testing to confirm it maybe its just so common they wanna keep quiet cause it infact already exists
2:42 Notice her facial expressions and lip trembling when they ask if there's glue in the formula. It's always been made of household goods, and we know that now. The EXACT formula may or may not ever be discovered, but the finished product is nothing all that special in terms of ingredients used. The family is only perpetuating a sham.
cornstarch 90% baking soda 10% ad normal white Glue, who is not toxic. Woodglue
Anybody try adding high temp silicone instead of white glue?
@@joespawldin7833 It is incredible, alone with the "easy" ad list
You noticed that too, eh? Body language can speak volumes.
Good observation dude
And now you can make it in your kitchen with glue, cornstarch and baking soda
Nah his formula hes gonna call it nighthawkinlite
This is Old info.
He was not the first. But nice try. @@myprofilenameisreallylongl5956
Lmao
if thats what it is.... why do you feed that to animals and horses?
Starlite isn't about the ingredients...
It about the principal of how it works... It creates a carbon foam that dissipates heat really fast protecting whatever is on the other side. It's most likely baking soda or some gas producing substance and an aggregate which produces the carbon and a binder which holds everything together.
The substance acts as a ablative heat shield much like PICA-X.
Interesting. Baking soda and epoxy combined becomes super hard. If one made beads of unset epoxy in shells of baking soda that fracture with heat or something like that . . .
I've wondered if he used ground egg shells as well.
So this stuff contains something like corn starch or flour. I can't think of many applications for a coating like that. It wouldn't weather too well.
Also, that family really annoys me. They claim that their product can save thousands of people (a dubious claim) yet they refuse to do anything with it.
So within their framing (how they present things; not necessarily reality), they're basically allowing thousands to die due to their greed. Good job on that.
You can use borax instead. All it needs is to form lots of carbon when subject to heat, which is almost all organic compunds. It's really not all that difficult and it's a joy to work with. Add some WC and you get a very very tough material.
@@MrWhangdoodles what's wc?
Check out nighthawk in light he has a video showing how to make a form of this.
*The downfall of the family being so TIGHT LIPPED about the formula is GREED*
cornstarch 90% baking soda 10% ad normal white Glue, who is not toxic. Woodglue
no its just so simple to make that they would not be able to get a patent.
@@konradrothenburger7078 simpleness has nothing to do with getting a patent. It is the utility.
@@bikedawg A utility patent needs to be something "novel". And "non-obvious". I doubt they would meet that criteria. What they have is a recipe, so they would keep it as a trade secret....but it's hard to sell a secret while keeping it a secret.
@@fredygump5578starlite is such a simple material that a hairdresser can create it
it just consists of a material extremely high in carbon, glue and a rising agent which creates a carbon foam when heated
since carbon has the highest melting point (>5500 *C) and good insulating properties, that’s the reason why starlite is effective
Pretty sick that they've held onto that for so long since as they've watched thousands of people lose their houses, friends, family and lives to fires. Greed is a very sad thing.
Is she from Yorkshire?
Cornstarch, Baking Soda, PVA Glue, mix into a putty, done. If you want to make it edible, bake the cornstarch, then mix in the baking soda and add water.
If you hold onto a secret like this for too long, you miss the boat.
So they sold the intellectual rights but the family retains a better formula?
I believe that it’s been figured out and instead of letting the family legacy die, they just say it’s a secret. I don’t think that lady is innovating any new formulations or uses.
High powered laser attacks at 4:15 also sounds like anti-missile or aircraft defense systems. I bet this is already in use somehow.
I'm pretty sure the wind near the speed of sound would strip this stuff clean off so I doubt it has any application in aerospace.
high powered laser attack is just shining a powerful laser at it for 0.1s
just shining it for 0.1s isn’t gonna prove how it can withstand 10000 *C as they claim, since even wood can survive these lasers
The woman looks like she is lying. We probably have made it but they a probably saying it so we keep going on a wild goose chase.
Seriously man. The formula has been out for more than 2 months. The basics are cornstarch, pva glue and baking soda. You can add other heat retardant materials to toughen it up but those 3 are it. 15% baking soda, 85% cornstarch and as much pva glue until it feels like putty. Not very scientific I know but it works like a charm.
I added fibre glass to give it more structure and I'm working with wolfram carbide to make it more like concrete. Works like a charm.
@John Dave ...Carbon fibre burns, dude.
I think this family might have sniffed a little too much of that PVA glue.
Baking soda, borax or cornstarch and Elmer's glue. Have fun
Add baking soda
@@Ryquard1 that's what the borax is for, it's got a higher level of carbon than baking soda. The carbon is what absorbs the heat.
@@IamCrass but as i understood, the baking soda reacts making carbondioxide creating an insulating membrane or something like that, can borax do that too? I dont know how exactly borax work, as i cant make pastry with it XD
@@Ryquard1 yes you can. put borax into your pastries.
Since when does borax have carbon atoms?
Borax has no carbon, at all.
Did you test it?
The actual way as I know it is adding some borax to the recipe with baking soda.
It makes the Starlite more stable and long lasting.
Most of the carbon atoms come from the cornstarch anyways.
I first heard about Starlite as an indestructible material in the late 1980's in a Canadian talk show and never forgot the name. This is the first time I hear about it again since then.
Just goes to show that NightHawkInLight is a gentleman and a scholar. He gave everyone his recipe freely...
just trying to cash in , a bit too late
A bit too late...?
Dude is dead. That's as late as you can get.
@@gigantkranion He meant a bit too late as similar stuff are being made already with starch etc (like one video shown). If she has some nice formula why not ignite mob curiosity and give a show one more time? Why? Because as someone here said its super easy to do - so no one would buy this from them and just make their own. Its probably the same stuff that ppl already doing it with starch etc - so very easy to repeat and not so easily to patent.
One thing worth thought is all the corn starch and PVA variants are thickly applied to the eggs, the Tomorrows world footage from the early 90's the egg is painted with a thin coat of Starlite. There is also what we can assume is footage here on this site of the Atomic research Establishment experiments bombarding Starlite with high powered lasers simulating an atomic weapon flash for a 5 second exposure, it was still not defeated. I do not deny it was made from a simple list of ingredients, and it is far superior to the modern variants that have popped up recently for our viewing. But I believe its biggest downfall would have been its organic elements that may have had a shelf life meaning it degraded in a short period of time to useless.
They narrowed it down, we now know that there are no toxic materials in it.
Formula is baking soda 8 oz. corn starch 1oz and Elmer’s white glue mix the dry ingredients than add Elmer’s glue until you can mold it like putty... let it dry inside for 24 hrs. The putty should be tested outside to make sure you added the ingredients correctly. In addition never use it a a protective device as the time it remains fire retardant is limited. If it works the heated source should create carbon and should prevent the heat from getting to the other side. No warranty is given for the formulation and always respect fire. It’s a great experiment you should have a heat gun to see if your product meets the heat requirements you are testing!! The most important part is not too much glue and it must not be moist after 24 hrs. If it is you used too much glue.
They’re being very selfish. Especially their late Dad. This could have saved countless lives. Their loss though, there’s now other products on the market.
Also you can make it (or something nearly identical) with corn starch, baking soda, and glue.
@@skyr8449 their formula had over 20 ingredients. So not quite.
@@AG.Floats that's just a claim. The basic concept is just a carbon and Co2 producing material. We can make multiple variations of this that allready work just as well. Seen a 3 ingredient version withstand thermite. So I say the 20 ingredient thing is just a hoax to protect their incredibly simple recipe. And if there is any truth to it being all nateral and edible then that limits ingredients a bit.
What I found interesting is how the "what is in it" was downplayed to a "how it is put together" explanation. This tells me she knows people other than her family and business associates have figured out the basic formula.
Try make your own (corn starch60% of the cup, baking soda 10%, and white glue add until like play dough) Keeping an invention or a discovery to your self will only delay it others will discovery it or invent it and maybe better than yours. It's impossible for one human to think of something that another human will not think of the difference is if he's different from the other human and share it.
At least credit nighthawkinlight so people dont think you came up with that formula.
@@s.moorefilms3760 i agree with you
nighthawkinlight wasn't the first to recreate/rediscover the formula, that is if he didn't just do some research and find someone else giving it out
@@epicrandomness5907
You're right! If Nighthawkinlight found someone else's formula, he wasn't the first to recreate it. That's some profound logic you're dropping.
Of course, you just copied your inane comment from someone else, that is if you found someone else saying the same thing.
I don't think anyone should claim it, it's already too late it's karma against the family who kept on holding it for greed trying to mask it as contribution to society they are full of crap from toes to the hair in their heads.
We can use that as an armor coating against thermonuclear weapons, High Energy Lasers, Active Denial System etc.
9 parts corn starch, 1 part baking soda, white glue mixed in until consistency of modeling clay. There you go.
everybody: tell us the recipe
Maurice & his family: no
the internet: we made starlite cause you wouldn't tell us
Maurice & his family: wait what
V2
Maurice & his family: nooo you can't just recreate starlite
Internet: haha starlite go brrrrr
The only reason she is hiding the recipe is because the premise is so simple that you couldn't possibly patent it since patents are so specific.
There are many released recipes online for starlight and most, if not all use the basic premise of forming a carbon layer that will protect from heat, while also releasing co2 to stop the other ingredients from igniting.
The most basic form of this is of course; Baking soda, cornstarch and PVA glue as a binder.
But there are many substitutes (can't think of an example rn) that could also give the same result
So when the original recipe is released to the market, thousands of companies will just create a different version of it
and they can't be taken to court since it wasn't the original recipe that they patented. (and you can't patent an idea)
This is only my theory, but it seems quite logical.
It would explain why not only Maurice but his daughter and other family members were so reluctant to give away anything.
And it really feels like Nicole is lying about the recipe with that smug smirk. Why don't you just do the world a favor and release the recipe
instead of being so selfish and money hungry.
It has the potential to save thousands of lives.
nighthawkinlite
Banking Soda + wet Rice flour = *self-made starlight.*
The issue is mold and bacterial decomposition.
baking soda + cornstrach + pva glue make keep adding glue until u can play with the mixture like dough wait to dry 24 hours and u are done u have starlight
@@dekar1738 white Elmer's glue works well
5:42 Actually the sample Maurice provided didn't last 10 years and that is the reason no one wanted to sign a contract with him.
I think Starlite is just sodium bicarbonate, glue, and corn starch.
Regardless, all they are creating is black carbon when it meets the flame.
Carbon is indeed an amazing element, which could be better utilized for refractory uses.
I already had the idea of mixing activated charcoal into a refractory mix. I want to build a rocket mass heater and use refractory cement, fireclay, and activated carbon for a refractory mix in the heat riser.
This is why I find Starlite so fascinating. Because even retail refractory cement and firebrick is only rated for less than 1500°C. Elemental carbon doesn't even melt at 3000°C, although it does have a sublimation point of 3642°C.
Amigo é inflamável, trigo tbm
Spoiler, it's baking soda and nail glue (superglue reacts too fast to spread it on anything). Potassium carbonate would probably work better than baking soda as a fire retardant since since the unspent potassium bicarbonate from the reaction is the same stuff used in PKP fire extinguishers.
If the finished product is edible, then where would you be able to use it? You wouldn't be able to use it in construction or automotive applications, because it would get eaten by rodents or degrade too quickly to be beneficial. The only thing would be short term thermal protection.
the key to the composition is in the name
STARLITE = STARCHLIGHT!!
The ingredients are :- (80% Starch + 20% baking soda) and add to the mixture a lot of white glue until you make a firm paste .. and that's it.
Don’t worry Niki, keep it to yourself waiting for that $10B to come just like dad did. Meanwhile science doesn’t stop
In the 1980's a old Australian had this but refused to sell it then died. N.a.s.a offered to pay but refused millions.
This guy is not the first.
Also they have not shown it after it's been exposed to weather, mechanical stress or wildlife for example.
It's always shown in a TV studio.
Not much coating a home in it if it simply falls off the walls, turns to paste with a bit of damp or gets eaten by mice
G'day,
BINGO !
Being compounded from Cornflour/Cornstarch, Baking-Soda and water-soluble PVA Glue..., this stuff will likely be hydrophilic, so it'll turn sticky or soggy in humid weather, and probably go mouldy before falling off, or as you said - being eaten by Rodents or Birds.
Perhaps it may still function as a Fire-Retardant after being sprayed on all sides with a durable Sealant...?
If the "Varnish treatment" can protect the underlying Compound from moisture ingress, & from being detected as a Foodsource by Vermin, then it would be an eminently useful product... ; but the fact that it's NOT on the Shelves in every Hardware Shop, nor recommended in DIY Publications, probably means that the Sealant interferes with the "Carbon-Foaming" which is apparently crucial to the sought-after Insulating properties...(?).
Such is Life,
Have a good one,
;-p
Ciao...!
they cant sell it because it goes off like food, deteriorates, and probably grows mold.
I too wouldnt suggest painting your house with flour and water.
The only time you play games like this is when you know you don't have anything "novel". The company that purchased the formula is buying the name/legend. They may bring something to market, but if they do, it will almost certainly be their own formula with the "starlite" name attached.
This lady withholding information that could potentially stop DEATH. I hope she reads this and realizes when she watches the news and hears of a family and children burning up from something that could have been prevented with a simple product. I hope she blames herself
Calcium carbonate or diatomaceous earth mixed with cement..those are given to dogs and horses..one as a food supplement and one for getting rid of internal parasites
I wonder if it could also be Molasses which are known to be fed to horses and possibly dogs.
The family is trying to monopolize Starlite, which has resulted in deaths. All it will take is someone to blackmail them, and their dreams are gone.
Baking Soda, Corn Starch, Water, and pulverized egg shells (Calcium powder). The secret is in the egg shells.
Even without the egg shells it’ll work just as good. The trick is the baking soda. As it starts to burn it releases carbon dioxide which prevents combustion
NightHawkinLight's channel created he's own starlite just using glue, corn floor and backing soda, that works 100% I'm amazed.
90% cornstarch (powdered) + 10% baking soda + enough pve glue to make it into a puddy = a simple easy starlite
Yeah um intumescent paints have been a thing for many years. Also, I don't think baking soda, corn starch and PVA glue will make for good paint additives.
I too have watched "How to make a Super Material at home"
Considering their "Starlite" material is apparently edible, it definitely aint suitable for industrial applications outside of being a non-toxic science experiment for elementary school students, on the same level as making slime or Christmas tree ornaments made out of flour.
As I wrote elsewhere, if you use it as paint you might as well live in a gingerbread house.
Exposed to the elements, it would just slowly dissolve and wash away. On the inside, it would be eaten by fungus and pests.
@@MrTubularBalls are gingerbreads fireproof though?
+Revi M Fadli Well, under a blowtorch they'd probably swell up and carbonize too, so yeah maybe.
Why don't you try it, the BBC might make a doc about you.
Corn Starch 45% Baking Powder 5% 50% elmers glue.
Baking soda ( *not* powder), powdered startch (flour, corn starch) anything which leaves behind carbon structures and white paper paste (elmer's white glue).
10 (starch) to 1 (baking soda) ratio. Then add glue until doughy consistency. Form into wanted shape and let dry for 12-48 hrs.
Begs the question that if "most " of the ingredients are organic, how long would it actually last as a coating , ie as paint. i mean how could you have it in a vital room such as a kitchen, would the steam from cooking etc basically turn it into mould?
Very enlightening. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
Bro is this a Mandela effect ?
The man that made starlight went missing in the 90s and only his fam knew the ingredients
He didnt go missing, he died naturally. And his family still are the only ones who know of the ingredients officially but using simple science regarding carbon bonds we've reduced it down to its most basic elements
My guess is that starlite degrades quickly (especially considering it was made out of normal household things) or it requires very specific conditions to be effective which is why it was never comercialised
Did you even watch the video? Some guy named Steve said an 18 year old sample performed well and indicated stability.
@@daveedee3626cornstarch, flour, baking soda, water and borax it's a fricking dough
I think they tried to keep it secret, but now that people started to figure out how to make it (or something with the same properties) they are just bluffing, saying their formula is the best and nothing could ever come close to it
Boric acid, sodium borate, sodium carbonate, sodium bi carbonate, slilca, various hydrated cements, sodium silicate..... All household items
Pva and cornflour works pretty well. Add a bit of borax to activate the pva or just let it dry.
is there any information on Starlite's R-Value or thermal conductivity?
OuR FoRuMuLa iS tHe BeSt
*Never make it available for anyone*
Outstanding move
It's a shame this hasn't been brought to market. I'm sure we would be much further along in sciences and space than we are currently.
Sadly if this is kept secret longer someone will figure out the solution and get it to market earlier rendering the better invention less worth.
And it would be better to sell it as one lump sum, because of economies of scale and the seemingly readily available ingredients make it worth pennies on the litre of product.
Cornstarch glue and baking soda
There is nothing to it. It is a simple snakeoil salesmen and liar.
m.th-cam.com/video/Pp9Yax8UNoM/w-d-xo.html
@@ABaumstumpf if it's snake oil then why does it work exactly as described...
@@jonjohn855 Right - *"IF"* but his claims were simply not true or he wouldn't have had to constantly lie about it.
The family sounds like they killed the inventer for his invention lol
this stuff could save lives.. YES, but not as a paint, a layer of paint is too thin, (look at the Demo tests ) the wall or building will just burn from the other side or from inside out
it will, this stuff needs to be used as wall building material, like dry wall, this would contain the flame in the area where it started, used as ceiling material, and inbetween floors of a multi-story bldg
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유추 가능한 재료는...
1. 알로에 젤(천연성분100%)
2. 감자전분
3. 베이킹소다
3가지의 재료를 섞어 만들었을 가능성이 높음
아마도 만들었다가 잘 되지않아 태워버리려 했는데, 타지않는 성질을 발견한것 같다.
"Yeah, my mother sold them their formula, but our formula is totally better!" Yeah, nah, your formula is exactly the same, adding a pinch of salt into it ain't improving it. Also good job Maurice holding onto the formula all your life and then dying poor, because you were way too greedy and now your kids doing the same.
What even is the point of waiting till your like 95 to sell it? You won't be even able to enjoy the money then anymore.
Secret? I don't think so.
Have you tested the orange peel off skin? It works the same. Oh, the grapefruit skin works much better.
Make sure dry them first before use. (The moisture will have thermal conductivity)
PVA glue, backing soda, & kornflawer
I think she is just covering everything up. I am very sure that a lot of people have recreated the same formula.....she just wants the money
NightHawkInLight
channel shared his formula for making Starlite which works really good.
Baking soda , corn starch, elmers glue makes something like starlite
Elmer’s glue, corn starch, and baking soda. You can only use 10% baking soda in your mix of corn starch & Elmer’s glue.
They could coat spacecraft with this stuff and it would help on re entry in the atmosphere
It might seem that way but the pica-x that nasa and space x uses is more fit for application. This stuff couldn't stand hitting the atmosphere at moch 10+
Lets Talk About It you mean mach 22
It's just corn strach and banking powder mixed in glue
if it does not get thrown off by the atmospheric drag
Yellow Jackets or exit depending on the speed
It's useless as a commercial or military heat shield. The ceramic tiles already in use is a far superior heat shield.
baking soda, corn meal and white glue. There, now everyone can make the damn stuff.
If it's edible it's most likely organic and so is probably not more than shelf stable, meaning I wouldn't use it on a spacecraft/aircraft. I reckon major industries realized that ages ago and the family, left without rich buyers, is trying to milk it off. But the catch is that if they sell it, then it's out if their control and they won't see a dime. Poor either way.
Glue, baking soda, and starch (maybe talc instead for his)
It's gak, if you ever made gak in kindergarten, that is starlite, only starlite is thicker.
Glue and Corn starch and baking soda.
hairdressers use milk then add baking power and corn flour also add resin to make stronger
Thx 4 for the info. I was thinking he might have used hairdressing products too.
5:08 EXACTLY scientists and even some youtubers have made it, their window of opportunity is LONG GONE!!
If Starlite is a real solution for the 21st century then they should be able to sell the material freely in the knowledge that it cannot be reverse engineered. Waiting for someone to include it in their existing manufacturing, like a paint company is a waste of time unless they understand the formulation. As a result intumescent paint stole the thunder of Starlite. There is a massive need to create Starlite structures but that is unlikely since the raw materials can be eaten by animals and bugs and therefore, is environmentally degradable. Intumescent paints are based on Ammonium polyphosphates and pentaerythritol. Both is these materials are easily included into a water-based acrylic emulsion. However, the acrylic polymer is the basis of the structure. This is flexible, combustible and essentially in an intumescent paint, known to ablate as it forms a carbon foam to create thermal resistance. Starlite would be best to include cement like formulations to the Sarlite formulation as stated above to enable thermally resistant and fire resistant products. Geopolymers can possibly be modified to achieve this. A company called CalAlSil from Australia has done just that and are creating thermally and fire resistance coatings for wood, aluminium, concrete, steel and plastic material substrates. CalAlSil cannot be reverse formulated or reverse engineered so the company is perfectly willing to sell its material to anyone who wants to buy it. In fact CalAlSil has a research program with Universities to create better testing methodologies that enable faster identification and understanding of the chemistry, physics and materials science so that low energy formulations can be mass produced in a world where energy is becoming the most constrained commodity in every society and economy.
OT question, does anyone know what the background music playing for the first couple of minutes is called?
Nighthawkinlight made a version
150g Corn Starch
15g Baking Soda
Add enough PVA Glue (Elmer's White Glue) to make a dry paste
Try to burn
A better formula is potato starch, corn starch, baking soda, crushed up egg shells and water. Must be mixed in stages.
in all these copies of starlite we must think first that starlite was tested with nuclear explosion and many other test was proven the originality of that product so for this fact we should give a big credit to the original formula rather than these copies. the are not dumb neither NASA is dumb to try it with Maurice family. the thing is startlite is truly original and unique, no more talk they know how much their formula worth
When they wait so long someone else has found something nearly as good and makes millions. She probably doesn't even know how to make it herself.
Why would this thing still become a headline?
Doesn't aerogel & ceramic foam already available?
Great story & set of videos. I wish it was all together. I sub'd because of this story. Keep up the great content!
adakah di sini orang indoenesia???
bisa belajar bareng saya untuk teknologi ini
Saya orang Indonesia
Starch + baking soda + binder = starlite
They will never reveal the secret that everyone has already figured out haha
Man, i hope they start using this in insulation, i'm so over the fiberglass itch😬.
It's made out of bicarbonate of soda@ 10grams, corn flower@100grams and Pva wood glue mixed until it forms a clay. And that's it...simple.
10 parts corn starch 1 part baking soda and Elmer's glue to form a dough like consistency. That's it
A TH-camr cracked this a week ago. And he has already filed a patent for a formulation that is coming up with. So now this family thinking that it make millions of dollars but waiting is now the s*** out of luck.
Basically it is just bread dough where the water is replaced with a non-oil based binder like simple wood glue.
rn, I felt the market is not believing them anymore, since they said they hold the best recipe while other used same materials and make the similar things. Nobody gonna risk to spend massive money to bid if their formula is the best
@ 0:50 "Notice that I am still holding this metal"....*rollseyes* I'm sure the metal was getting hotter as the heat from the flame would have been hitting the edge of that pie plate
This feel like something which would come up as a hoax video in a half a year
The Wright brothers had much the attitude when it came to getting their product out there.
people like the inventor of starlite are the reason science and technology doesn't progress as fast as it should. Either they are waiting on a bigger payout.
We should force them to give us the recipe
@@XxShadow-lv1ll yeah make a law that says "a person, holding a secret recipe that was passed down by his father upon death, who does not make the recipe public shall be hanged".