Shoot a HINGE or THUMB? | PLUS my LAST 3D of the year before archery season!
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I'm glad you make the distinction from hunting to 3d a lot of people don't even consider shot placement issues!
He does flinch when he hears the click 😂 I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
Another good video thanks man
I really like the fact that you mentioned keeping the exit hole in mind when thinking of shot placement. Seems no one talks about it when they make shot placement videos for TH-cam. Your videos are always awesome. Keep up the good work!
New to hunting. Why is the exit hole location important? If you mentioned it I missed it.
Love your videos. Keep them up. Very informative.
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One of your best videos. Enjoy watching anyone shoot a little 3-d- good bad or ugly it's fun.
Thank you for all your info , great vids .Keep up the great work 👍🙏🏻
Stuff you guys now i have to watch for Steve flinching, got my ocd going thanks guys
Huge fan of your channel. Lots of great information here! Keep up the good work!
Excellent shooting and great camera work. We enjoyed very much.
Good stuff and great to show that difference between hunting and 3D aiming
Very informative!! Good content as always.
I've been shooting a Winn's Free Flight relax trigger for 25 years. Great release, shot fingers before that so it was a good transition.
I had a release like that! I may have to try it again!
You're right about the coyotes jumping the string/dodging the arrow. They are so dang fast. Most people will never hit the coyote that is actually watching you draw and fire- they are gone. I've had several shots that were that way and only clipped one on the butt as it turned. The ones I've hit weren't aware of me and had their attention elsewhere. But, IMO, any deer hunt turns into a coyote hunt the instant I get a chance to try- bow or gun.
Thank you - that was a lot of information. I now have information overload on my brain. The difference in peep sight height was extremely useful. I will now raise my peep sight up a bit for my thumb release.
Teaching the “v” gets 10x more deer wounded than it kills . It may be a good kill only when deer is in right position. There is so much going on with changing range , angle, deer alertness, huner ability , mental calmness ( most are not)…… so much can go wrong. Always look / wait for broadside to slight quartering away and aim spot just behind shoulder in the crease . More room for you to miss a few inches any way . I’ve seen many videos of people that were never taught the right way to hunt .
Hey I’ve shot that course before. Kind of fun following along when you can envision the course.
Great camera work BTW.
Great info. Thinking of going to a thumb for 3D in the spring, been using Carter RX1 for both 3D and hunting bows. Hadn't thought about the change in peep height either, thanks. I'll have to change more than I thought on the 3D bow. At least that'll be a project coming out of winter. LOL (along with 3D shafts, field shafts,,,,,,)
I just got the same Scott release (Pursuit) and I am liking it a lot.. My first few shots though.... Oh boy. I went in and turned the bow down a turn and a half on each limb and then started in close and eased back to 20. WAY more consistent for me than the trigger.. And I did have to move the peep a bit and it actually added a 1/2" to my draw. Now just time to practice, practice and repeat.
It's like sharpening; enough just to think of altering the angle.
Awesome video
I shoot both thumb and hinge... if you get a trufire synapse and a trufire dear you have the best combination they fit in the hand exactly the same... I usually practice with the sear and when I am hunting I shoot the synapse the same way... shooting a hinge really improves your form, if you switch to the thumb just do the same movement as you do with the hinge... you will see your groups tighten up in no time...
Good info
PS: This type of video would be nice with the ARD, would be very nice :)
Thank You for the long form explanation.
I expected to see you using the EZ-V in 3D. Are you planning on hunting EZ-V this year? What was your decision point?
EZV is still on the docket to be hunted with. I just like to see my pins every now and then especially when I shoot 3D for scoring rings.
Would you recommend a hinge for someone who has used a index finger trigger? I see so many people who think their trigger is "too short" even though it is at the right distance and they lengthen it and become a trigger puncher. See way too many people trying to get target panic here lol.
I have a question concerning the klik. How does it suite for hunting? I would recon, not very well..
Brand new to compound archery and just using a basic index release. Trying to keep it simple as I can. I love the 'yote comments. I rifle hunt them and you ain't kidding, I swear they can dodge bullets let alone arrows
They freaking FLY!!!
I think I would be better off with a resistance activated release, that way I can pull through and still have the comfort of a safety just like on some hinges.
Howdy, well I'm shooting the steelhead 100s and when I got my first pack I sacrificed one and glued the blades shut and shot it that way. Flew great and hit with my field points. So I remember thinking that the rubber bands that came with them didn't feel like they were super tight when I would play around with the Steelheads but I just thought that's how they were suppose to be. So I decided I was gonna order another pack. so I went outside and figured it wouldn't hurt to shoot another one into my target this time with the rubber band on, sense I was gonna order another pack later in the evening. Well I'm really glad I did, bcs I shot and at the last second my arrow veered of to the left about 6 inches. I shot another time and the same thing happened. So the rubber band had broken after the second shot so I got another one that came with this pack of broad heads and the same thing happened. So I didn't know what was going on but I did remember how those rubber bands didn't feel as tight as I would think they should. so I pulled out a rubber band that came with the old school steelhead 125s I had ordered off eBay a few months ago and put it on the 100s and it was a lot tighter and I shot and it flew and hit perfect. I shot a few more times and it flew perfect. Then I put on a spitfire and it flew perfect. So my only guess is that it had to be that the rubber bands wore out or just got old over time and the blades we're opening . These were the silver Steelheads with the black rubber bands and I got an unopened pack off eBay but they would have to be a few years old bcs they stopped making steelhead a few years ago. The Steelhead 125s I have are probably 15 years old and those rubber bands didn't seem to stretch or anything so idk but I think I'm done with the whole rubber band thing and am just gonna go with spitfires. I just wasn't sure if It was a good idea shooting a 1-1/2 broadhead when only pulling 60 lbs. I have a 29 inch draw. But I comment alot and just wanted to sure that experience with the steelhead rubber bands and wanted to get your opinion on if u think that the blades we're coming open and that's what was causing the issue?
100% a rubber band issue. Getting. Fresh set of them from like your local dentist/orthodontist is actually the best bet. Strongest set they've got and you're in business.
What was that click with the hinge? Really glad you explained how to use a hinge. Was playing with the idea of getting one.
The click is part of the hinge system that lets the shooter know how far away it is from firing.
New to Archery but always been interested in it. Have a messed up left elbow from a motorcycle wreck a few years back and that has me 2nd guessing myself if I can hold the bow and he accurate.
Love the channel and I just found your channel today and have been going through the videos when I can.
I don't know where you are in PA but I'm in mechanicsburg and I'll gladly buy you a round for a lesson (or many more rounds lol)
If you're ever in Clearfield County hit me up!
@@averagejackarchery family lives in Erie, been through your way many times. First thing first.....I need to buy a bow lol
Great video! Question: what do you mean by "that one is a pogue"?
A poke? Meaning a long shot!
@@averagejackarchery That makes a lot more sense than "a pogue". 🤣 Thanks.
Me and my friends argue all the time about hunting shots and scorable shots.. I like to aim for hunting shots myself.. You say your bow is slow doesn't seem it.. What's the specs dl draw weight arrow weight etc?
Hey man any thoughts on back tension releases? (ie silverback by Nock on Archery) Outside of shot training, I’ve listened to a bunch of folks speak to its handiness during hunts
ACTUAL tension releases I personally stay away from. They're not my cup of tea. Scare the crap out of me to be honest. Haha!
have you ever used a resistance release ? steven hann is my home state of south australia but 600 miles from me .
I have not, no.
Average Jack Archery ok but your vid inspired me to try something diffrent so i just ordered a Carter Evoloution 4 finger resistance release , cheers
11 - 11 - 11 - 11 Geez bow must be shooting good
The Kure has exceeded all of my expectations this year. Couldn't be happier with its performance! It should EAT in just a few short weeks when season opens...
Your about 5 mins from me. I live in phillipsburg. Thats awesome to see a local pro. How would i contact you about looking at my bow? I use to frequent Clarence archery but they shut down this past January so I've been looking for a new bow tech.
Shoot me an email averagejackarchery@gmail.com or Facebook or Instagram message. Be happy to help out!
Does hinge or thumb release allow your draw to be slightly longer 3/4 to 1 inch draw? My draw is short like 26.5 if I could squeeze extra half inch to an inch I would be very happy. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
It will change the way you anchor, which in turn might offer a different feel of draw length to the bow.
I'm new to archery and was wondering how often a release fails and which ones/styles fail more often. Thanks
If you buy from a reputable manufacturer like Scott, TruBall, Hot Shot, etc. then rate of failure is SO LOW under normal use. Takes literally hundreds of thousands of arrows over years of use to see breakage.
@@averagejackarchery Thank You
How does the hinge compare to a silverback in regards to how it shoots? I’ve been loving it since I got it the safety was a big reason I don’t want to punch myself.
The Silverback by Carter is a true back tension release and I have never cared for those. Much rather prefer a hinge or even a thumb over the true tension style.
If you’re used to a silverback, you’ll be used to putting pressure on the thumb and index side of your hand to hold the safety down. That’s technically what keeps a hinge from going off.
Can you explain why when I shoot my hinge uphill, the hinge seems to be slow to fire and I have to pull stronger to get the hinge to rotate and fire
I can try! I would think of three things off the top of my head:
1. Draw length is a little long. Won't show up on level ground but rather when you shoot uphill or down and you're overextending uphill especially.
2. The weight of the bow is no longer straight down but now backwards and straight down. Makes the "push pull" idea a little more difficult to execute. It will end up being more "push" into the bow itself. Otherwise the weight of the bow will keep coming back into the swing of the release and not allowing a good rotational fire.
Another great video! I am a bit confused though, which isn’t to difficult for me! 😂 I recently emailed you calling you Nate, but in this video you said you recently shot this coarse with Nate, quite embarrassing, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess your name to be Jack… (As in the channel name!) hope I guessed right but who the heck is Nate? 🤔 And now I wonder how I even heard his name previously!
There are, believe it or not, 3 Nate's that have been on the channel. I am one of them! No Jack's around. Lol!
Not a fan of thumb buttons either man. Changes up my lifelong anchor point. Lol. What rangefinder is that? I like it
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@@averagejackarchery how do you like it? Shit or somewhat shit? Lol
@@JayN4GO Zero complaints. Using for 2 years without a hiccup.
Liked the video, but you never clarified why you shoot a index style release for hunting. I shoot a hinge for hunting and am just curious why you don’t ?
The way I execute a hinge doesn't lean towards the way I like to execute a hunting release. With my index I like more of a hair trigger to just add pressure. With my hinge since I'm relatively cold in its setting it requires a fair amount of rotation and that's just not something I personally want to monkey with in the woods.
Another highly informational video! Thanks. I currently shoot a Tru-Fire Edge Fold-Back and want to try a thumb style. Other than the Edge 4 finger release, what brands have the same size caliper that will fit my d-loop. I liked the Scott you were shooting, but don't want to change my d-loop, and carry the wrist-strap version as a back-up. Any thoughts?
I really need to shoot more 3D....
I hunt with a thumb button and yield
"You will probably see my butt on camera, but you will be fine." LOL Good vid . I found your channel through Brandon McDonald's with your post and his reply to you. Glad I read it. I don't live too too far from you (Kent, Ohio), so if you ever come over to shoot in Ohio, we should go to Nelson Ledge's . nla.kevcamp.com/
after punching myself in the face 3 times(chipped tooth and fat lip) i threw it in a corner then threw it onto ebay ill stick to my Carter chocolate addiction . i might try a resistance release oneday....maybe ,but its a lot of cash to lay out for a decent one (Stan ,Carter)
Ouch!!!!
Man is your bow noisy, you should check the bow for something loose if its the string as much as I hate string noise eliminated you should check that issue. Mathews bows make a lot of noise is your bow a mathews.
It sounds a lot louder on camera than it does in person. That little handicam microphone input does it no favors even with the mic pack. The bow is an Elite Kure and I'm quite fond of it when it helps me shoot like that!!!
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Hey I got you some people take the noise thinking the deer won't jump the string they are so wrong. I thought my bow was so fast I had the baby g back then pse I had the same buck jump the string 3 times each time I would lower the aim point until finally I got him. I was so lucky. But as soon as the season was over I sold it I learned my lesson so I try to pass it along to anyone. Good luck with your bow.
Why would you want to shoot a bear:/ I love your content man, you seem a very nice dude as Americans go, but, this is something i personally have an issue with, purely personal thing here, but i will not kill what i will not eat:/ Of course ime referring to the real thing here, but it seems to be very common in the states to shoot anything from Lynx to Moose, bear, you name it, so many Americans will shoot it as if there is some sort of life and death[on the part of the hunter] thrill involved. I just do not get this. Its not like its a survival thing:/ Maybe it has to do with me being veteran of real combat, but i dont think so. I feel an empathy with animals that i rarely feel with other humans. Cheers from down under mate:)