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A good synopsis of the data, without all the ridiculous conspiracies. However, like many journalists, you understandably don’t have the necessary technical knowledge to explore mechanical failures. There is a mechanical accident that can explain the known facts. Firstly, it is a big misconception that an aircraft cannot fly on, meandering until it runs out of fuel with no conscious pilot or autopilot. The initial IGARI turn is an autopilot off turn with the pilots flying it. But subsequently the route can be explained by a hypoxic, meandering autopilot off flight--A hypoxic ghost flight. So what mechanical failure fits with the known failures?…..well, damage to the left side of the avionics bay could knock out transponder/Satcom/autopilot and comms. What’s in the left side of the avionics bay? the crew oxygen cylinders. If these were to rupture, all of the above electrical issues are likely, followed by a decompression which may have not been initially recognised by the crew. They were probably hypoxic shortly after the IGARI turn. Please look into this failure scenario
I'm a high time commercial pilot who then changed careers and spent the past 20 years as an investigator. Because of my background I've followed this case fairly closely. I actually have no idea if it will be found, primarily because no one is currently searching for it, at least not officially. If that changes in future then I think there is a chance it will be found or, at least pieces of it. But even locating the wreckage after so much time may not solve the mystery. I will add here that even though you're not an aviation expert or investigator although historians are a kind of investigator, this is one of the best and most concise summaries of this case I've seen, including your choices of visuals. kudos on a job well done.
You've tackled THE most enduring mystery of them all, IMO. You're gutsy and tenacious and SO APPRECIATED. There were snippets of Maybe-Info in my own ear-to-the-ground on MH370 - but having this concise presentation ready for a book or a courtroom speaks of your dedication to your craft. Very well done!
What an unexpected treat!!! TY HC! I'm just starting to watch but my uncle is a retired airline pilot and is fixated on solving the MH370 disappearance as well. He did some consulting on another recent deep dive for the YT channel "Green Dot Aviation" (very reputable and also Irish lol). IDK if you saw that and I know I'm bias, but I was quite impressed with their conclusions. Looking forward to hearing how you disseminate the same information and finding out if you arrived at the same place. 🤗
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE VERY KIND DONATION MAGGIE. No, I'm not familiar with the other channel, but then again if it's strictly aviation it's not usually in my wheelhouse I suppose. I don't normally do anything this recent, but have always found this mystery very interesting in a depressing kind of a way.
I think it will be solved soon however none of those pieces have really ever been verified as coming from this flight except the flaperon and it could have very well been placed on on Reunion Island.
@@HistoryCalling I'm an aviation outsider but still found Green Dot's MH370 reconstruction easy to follow and at the end he explains his choices for each major point of contention (i.e, ditch vs dive, when those on board might have realized something was wrong, etc).
@@HistoryCalling i have a theory based on these findings and what we know. Let me know if I've missed anything that has been conclusively debunked. It might've been possible for one of the head cabin crew to have been let in the cockpit, maybe the captains thought there was an issue and let them in or wanted to know about updates etc. Maybe then this is when they forced the pilots to do these things. Maybe that could explain the weird messages from the pilot, maybe it's because he was nervous. Maybe this person wanted to be taken somewhere and the plane ran out of fuel. It reminds of an Ethiopian 777 which was hijacked and crashed into the sea because the hijacker wanted the pilot to take him somewhere but the plane ran out of fuel. The crash was caught on camera. What do you think?
The flight simulator data, for me, is highly suspect. In fact it gave me goosebumps as you read it. I really hope that the flight crew had nothing to do with the disappearance of the plane.
All the governments in the region know what happened to MH370. MH370 was carrying sensitive electronic equipment that the US did not want China to get. The plane was hit by a US missile and it is laying underwater. The US killed these poor people.
you are wrong do more research. It had smashed into bits flying into the sea at high speed. Parts from the plane with identification numbers have washed up on Réunion island The first MH370 part to be identified by French assessors, this large piece of debris was found washed up on the beach on Réunion island by local man Johnny Bègue more than a year after the plane disappeared.@user-vs3jl6hq2e
The ability to disseminate what must have been mounds of data, reports, terminology and varying opinions on fault into a riveting analysis so very well done!
I love all of your videos but for you to stray away from what you normally do and have it be, in my opinion, more fantastic than anything else in your catalog was just wonderful!
Something different, but as expected for HC, excellently researched and presented. This always sat in the back of my mind in the eeky part of things that shouldn't have been.
👏👏👏I must admit I had some trouble getting to sleep after watching this on Patreon, HC. It's the stuff nightmares are made of. I remembered you mentioned Flight MH370 in your 2022 Q&A so I'm glad you finally brought your investigative skill to this mystery. A question: in terms of research, how did this compare with your investigation of Benjamin Bathurst's disappearance and the Princes in the Tower? Great job, HC! Have a great week. 🙏🏼
Oops. Sorry! Hope you're not too tired. This was easier because the official reports are freely available and easy to read and perhaps a little harder because of the sheer quantity of material to wade through.
Thanks HC for another well researched, but disturbing video. So many innocent lives lost in what must have been a terrifying ordeal. The passengers must have felt the plane banking and changing direction before anything else happened to them. All the evidence does point towards the captain, but there is always the possibility that it was someone else. It is really worrying that airline pilots etc can so easily orchestrate a murder/suicide event. There does not seem to be any way that cabin staff can initiate a mayday signal either. Inmarsat is known to be a technically reliable company, so I would be happy to accept their findings. I hope that airline tracking has improved in the last 10 years. Will it be found? Probably in years to come. The French plane that came down in a storm mid Atlantic was found in deep water, so there is hope that this tragedy will be resolved. It is still a very troubling event. 💐
Yes, it is a heartbreaking story and like you, I would like better safety in the cockpit (like 3 people minimum there all the time). I hope they find it too.
I’m guessing the cabin was depressurized and they could’ve all been knocked out before anyone got worked up enough to know what was going on/create a fuss.
I’m so glad there are people out there with deeper pockets than mine that can support HC’s stellar work! Thank you Theresa! And thank you for another wonderful video HC! This one was really exceptional.
I have briefly read some of the infos on Wikipedia about this and realized how much was written and discussed about this flight. So very well done to summarize this so understandably in this video! Thank you and well done!
Thank you. Yes, there's a lot to digest and I certainly couldn't have done it without the official reports, which are very long, but clearly and logically written. It's a shame more of the conspiracy theory nuts out there wouldn't sit down and go through them.
Yes. 😢 MH370 will give up enough hard-side evidence to be identified ... eventually. Unfathomable, this incident. Your deep research and passion for your job are truly profound.
Something is definitely suspicious. There are too many oversights and inconsistencies to make it seem just a tragic accident. My heart breaks for the families who lost loved ones on that fateful flight and the mental torment of wondering if they suffered before they perished. I can't even imagine. 💔 Many thanks to you, HC, for such an in-depth search for answers. Your videos are always a much anticipated part of my week.
My sense of what was presented by HC is that the perpetrator recognized, planned for and took full advantage of weaknesses in the probable on-ground response. I didn't get the sense that there was any collaboration on the part of the military or the ATC personnel, but simply that the perpetrator fully understood how to lull ground support systems into complacency until it was far too late, anticipated that chaos would ensue, and also knew how to conceal all evidence of what they had been planning.
I followed this tragedy closely thru a variety of news sources. I still learned new info listening to your thoughtfully reasoned discourse. This crash will be with me till its found or until i breath my last. Thank you for wading thru reams of information in a subject you are not trained in to help us all keep learning. Warm regards from a ridge runner in the southern highlands of Appalachia US of A
Thank you so much. It was fascinating to read the reports actually. If you're really interested in the mystery, I advise you to take a look at them. I found them so interesting that I was willingly reading them on my weekend. On a side-note, I've always thought the Appalachians look so beautiful. I'd love to visit some day.
Regarding the simulator data: if he WAS trying to figure out whatever his plan ended up being on the simulator he wouldn’t have made it easy to find even if he never expected to be alive when it was searched The one data point around how long until the fuel ran out close enough to the eventual search area in the Indian Ocean has me convinced the Captain ran at least one simulation It tracks that he would have experimented on his simulator in a obfuscative way, at least to me 😔
@@HistoryCalling Do we know that it WAS easy to find? What was found seems kind of equivocal, which would make sense if the perpetrator wanted to leave everybody in doubt.
As a pilot I am Impressed that you took on this event. I felt it was weird how quickly it seemed this event was ‘forgotten’ by the media (though the past few years seems to happen more- like the Russian pipeline). I know it’s brought up from time to time but seemed to drop out of the news cycle earlier than I thought it would. Maybe it was bigger in China? Either way you are helping to keep the memory of the passengers and crew alive.
Thanks Sara. It was a big task to make a video on it, but I find it very interesting in a depressing sort of a way. I think it appears more often in the Australian news cycle too.
Thank you for the great deep dive. I remember how shocked I was when I learned the leading theory. 60 Minutes uploaded an Australia piece on YT. The theories weren't well known and still aren't here in the USA.
You surprised me with this subject. Who ever was piloting the AC wanted the Flight's disappearance to be a mystery. It is scary when you sometimes think of how much trust we give people with our lives. How can they be truly monitored ? Motive is important... but finding that has been problematic. I don't know if its because of agent's ' obfuscation or a true lack of evidence . There are probably some people who would like this to remain a mystery. I admit the small indicators don't look good for the pilot...but a preponderance of evidence is the best we can do for now. Good subject.
Thank you. Yes, it is very different for me as it's so recent, but I've been fascinated by it since it happened and really wanted to research it more and do a video on it. I shan't be making a habit of 21st century topics though. I agree that it is scary how much we have to trust some people with our lives. Personally, I wish all flights had at least 3 people in the cockpit so no one could ever be left alone.
Great video. I think the captain brought the plane down on purpose but I don't understand why he flew around until he ran out of fuel. Seems like that would give him way too much time to think about it and start to have doubts. I do think the plane will be found someday.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE VERY KIND DONATION. If we assume for a moment that he did it (and I admit that the evidence is not conclusive) he wouldn't necessarily have been awake the whole time. Once the autopilot was set, he could have allowed himself to succumb to hypoxia and passed out.
That was -- to use a much-overworked word accurately -- fascinating. Thank you for putting so much effort into this longer-than-usual episode, which I know I'll re-watch, as I have all of your prior programs. Btw, I do agree with you that while the MH370 *may* someday be located, it isn't at all likely.
It's all very strange. I find the airflight simulator data of the captain to be interesting? information, but theres really not enough info. I will say that there doesn't need to be a conspiracy or family deliberately saving face to say the captain seemed normal and not suicidal before though. Very often, friends and family are completely unaware of the inner feelings of people who commit suicide. Many suicidal people deliberately conceal such feelings. I think it'd be especially horrible to consider the thought that a loved one comitted a murder suicide.
Tragically, I completely agree with you. It does appear to come out of nowhere with a lot of people, even though the problems have obviously been bubbling for a long time.
What people don't understand is how slack Malaysian Airlines security procedures were at the time. (And are now) A key piece of evidence is their lack of always having 2 crew in the cockpit at any time. A 2 crew operation should have a cabin crew member come up and sit in a jump seat while a pilot is out in the toilet. This allows 1/ someone to open the door if the auto open function fails to work 2/ prevents the flying pilot from locking the door from the inside. Malaysian Airlines didn't do this, and that allowed the Captain to lock the door and do what he was intending to do. The F/O couldn't get in to stop the inevitable.
While I wholeheartedly agree that it's not good to ever have only one person in the cockpit, I don't think this is particular to Malaysian Airlines. The Lufthansa (I think that's the correct airline) flight that one of the pilots deliberately crashed into the mountains a few years ago for instance had the same policy. It's something I think should be changed across the industry.
There are some surprisingly slack airlines that don't implement secure cockpit procedures. The decision is up to the operator and the responsibility is that of the national regulators.
Great video-very informative. I usually stick to your Tudor/Plantagnet content as it's my primary interest and what I specialised in but this is a modern mystery which I'd love to see solved. I agree that there's simply not enough evidence or information to pin the blame on any one person even if certain things look suspicious. I truly hope the wreckage is found and gives some closure to the family. What an awful way to lose someone xx
I just found a documentary about this from Netflix. I guess I'm going to go watch it now, since you got me all interested about this mystery flight. Thanks for the video! 😁
Thanks for a great video! I can’t imagine the work it took to make it. The disappearance of that plane is a mystery I hope someone solves. It’s so strange. Not even a few weeks ago I watched a documentary about this. It had crazy theories. Yours made perfect sense. Since there’s no way of ever knowing what happened and I found out about the captain’s flight simulation, I’m convinced he did something. This disaster always makes me think about the plane from Egypt that did do a nose dive. You did a great job again!!! Thank you.
There's a very good video on the Green Dot Aviation channel on here with what I think is the solution to what happened on this flight. I wasn't going to watch your video as I was satisfied by Green Dot's video, but I'm glad I have watched. I think you've done a very good job, differently from the aviation channels, but for those of us who don't understand all the plane and aviation stuff very well, this is an excellent rundown.
This was exceedingly well researched. I don’t think you left any stone unturned. It is also very unsettling. I just think of the passengers. Did they know they were off course? Did the cabin crew suspect anything? It is chilling to think of what occurred and that prolly at some time before actual impact, they had to have known. You are always amazing in your efforts. Thank you HC.
Thank you. I mostly just followed the two reports, so all credit to the investigators who put them together. I hate thinking of the poor passengers too as I think they must have known something was off at some point.
I have to confess that this story, when it was in the news, frustrated me so much that I tuned completely out, eventually boycotting all news sites for weeks. News media obsessed over it, quite rightly, but without any new information, day after day. It became the only story, but it was simply an unanswered and seemingly unanswerable question. The total saturation mirrored the days after JFK Jr.'s plane was lost, but there was never any resolution, and most days, no development. Thanks for this needed overview. Whether or not the wreck can ever be found, it seems that the heart of the answer lies in a mental health situation that will remain forever mysterious.
Yes, the media does tend to do that sometimes, doesn't it? Then of course, when there's an info. vacuum, people make up outlandish stuff (it's happening at the moment around the Princess of Wales's illness). The 24hr news cycle has a lot to answer for.
I was surprised at first that you would cover this - I have watched a number of videos on this subject as I am an avionics fan. You've done a very good job of pulling all the facts together. Yes I hope that the wreckage will be found. Its a big ocean out there however, and I think it will take quite a while to come across it.
This was great! But there are two counterpoints, first you said there is no radar coverage in the southern Indian Ocean. While there is no civilian radar coverage, Australia has a military radar system called JORN which does cover massive swaths of this region. They very likely would have seen the aircraft. Second, ACARS was turned back on after initially being turned off along with the transponder. Pilots are not trained on how to turn ACARS on and this can only be done from inside the avionics bay of the aircraft and not from inside the cockpit.
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Regarding your points, I was just following what was in the two reports I mentioned. They're both linked in the description box for you, so if you feel there is an error in the video you can double check the info. there. I don't recall ever seeing any mention of JORN for example and I think Australia would have said if they'd been able to 'see' the aircraft, given how much money they've ploughed into trying to find it. Perhaps I overlooked something though.
I had read most of the information you gave us, and I also listened to the reports from the subsequent search teams. My opinion, given what I've absorbed (and I have no flight experiences, but some science), is that this was an intentional nose dive, and the plane broke up as it plummeted at high speed, and then hit the water. It is shattered to bits. It is my hope that the passengers and non flight crew were unconscious or dead well before this happened. I do not wish to blame any particular person, but whoever did this knew exactly what to do, and had the capacity to do so. It still haunts me. Whenever this shows up in my personal awareness, I light some incense and a candle for all the souls, including the mad one that potentially committed this horror.
This is a great insight into the biggest aviation mystery, and while we'll never know what went on in the flight deck on that fateful night, everything from the behaviour of the flight path, to the manual depressurisation, to the unusual "Good night, Malaysia 370" read back instead of reading back the instructions as per standard radio communications, to the fact that the captain had a simulator set up at his home and showing a simulated flight to the Indian Ocean, to the fact that all passengers checked out with no red flags, I'm willing to bet the captain had something to do with this even though he had a nice list of positives and was highly regarded, I get the feeling he was just a regular guy with a lovely family and a successful career and everything was going great in his favour, but at the same time some sort of other character was building up from something that silently triggered him, probably the last days or weeks leading up to this, and it's a character that was well hidden from everyone, until that night. But of course it's only a speculation, we will never know what actually happened, and even if we do find the wreck, and the black boxes (here's hoping), will any of that reveal what actually happened on that night? It's been said that those CVR's tape over themselves every 30 minutes or something like that, and I think it's something to do with the engines running, but recording stops as soon as the engines stop, or so I remember from a documentary a long time ago, anyways, if that's the case, yeah those CVR's aren't going to reveal anything more than a few beeps and some ambient sounds, and probably the sounds of impact onto the ocean, assuming the data would still be retrievable after all this time under water, but there's high chances that all cockpit conversations are long gone, and assuming the captain was in on all of this, he knew exactly what he was doing. Anyways, it's all speculation until we can find it, great job putting all of this together 👍
An excellent analysis of the data, HC! I wasn't prepared for how terrifying the story would be, showing as it did that a highly skilled person deliberately flew that plane to one of the most impossibly deep and remote places on the globe. What got my heart pounding was how you showed the sophistication of what happened and the precise moment when it happened. I tried to imagine the poor people in that plane, if they were conscious, as they realized they were doomed. I also wondered if the perpetrator took his own and the other pilot's life before the end came. I hope something is eventually found, but it probably won't be enough to complete the dreadful story. The plane that crashed in a Pennsylvania field on September 11, 2001 apparently did not leave enough evidence to confirm what happened inside the plane, despite passengers making phone calls to their families. This suggests to me that even finding more of the wreckage of MH370 won't reveal much.
Yes you're a historian and not a aviation expert but this is part of history. And I'm very happy that you're visiting this because you know how to sift through data and when to make an opinion and we're not. Thank you for this video. The part that caught my ear was that the captain did not repeat the coordinates and then said good night. Now that might be quite normal and what they do considering this was at midnight or so, but did anyone ask if that was his normal greeting or sign off?
I just commented to my husband a few days ago about this lost plane. I don't know what brought it to my mind , but I asked him if there had ever been any info about what happened. Then this video popped up. Very interesting... and scary. I didn't realize it had been 10 yrs ago this month!
Ooh, this is gonna be a bit hard to watch, as I have a panic of plains (this mystery and other crashes being one of the reasons why), but I hope I can, for a good mystery is hard to resist!!
Even with flukes like this though, it's still the safest way to travel (though I admit that probably doesn't help if you have a phobia). If this was a result of human action rather than mechanical failure though, which I think it was, then you could just as easily be harmed by a crazed motorist. Think of it like that.
@@HistoryCalling true, but I’d rather pass in a car accident than in a plane one- the panic is too much, plus, I have a fear of travelling by sea, so plane travels over the sea are a terrible mix for me😭😭 when visiting my father in Brazil four years ago, I took so many sleeping pills to calm down, and still didn’t fall asleep in the 11 hour night plane trip💀
Yikes, that is quite the phobia and I understand what you mean about the plane over water being a double whammy. Erm, maybe be careful with the sleeping tablets though. You don't wanna die from an OD of those either :-0
I think the 40° and 180° jerks might be from a fight breaking out in the cockpit. I also think the captain has some sort of mental break in the months prior and committed himself to his end. I think the flight simulator data were his practice sessions to make sure he didn't lose his nerve. There are lots of stories about people who hid their mental states for years from friends & family. And this way was ambiguous enough that his family (hopefully) wouldn't deal with any stigma, insurance hold ups, or community ostracization. I also think the best places to check for any remnants would be areas along the sea floor, or anything that pokes up into the hadal or abyssal zones. Basically a second sea-floor trawling mission, except for longer and with higher resolution sensors. I'd even consider following deep ocean currents in that area to see if any of those towers (the ones covered in tube worms) interrupt the current's flow. Debris could have gotten caught in the rocks and worm colonies. I'd also be checking the bellies of anything that washed ashore from the deep sea. Metal and plastic don't digest well, after all. With the technology and funding we have now for such projects, I don't believe anything will ever be found on purpose. If anything pops up, it'll be incidental to another expedition... Like when construction workers find archaeology stuff on the job.
Yes, perhaps it will be as part of some other expedition that more evidence pops up. In the searches which have already occurred for the plane for example, some 19th century shipwrecks were found.
A direct and concise video of the MH370 disaster. Very well--presented, HC! May the wreckage one day be found, if at all, and if the locating and salvage technology has advanced any further. My condolences to the family and relatives of the innocent passengers who perished along with the plane. 😢🛫
They claim that it was in fact the first officer whom made the last radio call... That means it was him who was in control as almost immediately after is when the transponder went off. If the captain was initially making the radio calls, that would mean the first officer was the one flying. The fact that his phone alone attempted to connect some time later as well, adds to this being the case.
For sure the military were not looking in real time, there's an air force base on the mainland in Penang state RMAF Butterworth from which they could have intercepted if they'd been paying attention.
@@HistoryCalling I lived for a while on Penang Island, would often hear the military jets. There is a fairly large contingent of Australian air force people stationed there too. I knew one socially but he couldn't/wouldn't disclose why they were there.
Good video. It's hard to imagine a plausible scenario that doesn't involve one of the pilots deliberately hijacking this plane. Of the two, the evidence strongly leans towards the captain. The lack of an apparent motive is not exculpatory evidence. It would be nice if we knew why. It would make more sense. But ultimately, motive is not necessary to establish guilt.
Yes, at the present time I admit that that does seem the most likely scenario, but of course we'll never know for sure without the plane (and frankly, maybe not even then, depending on what exactly was found and the condition it was in).
This was a really fun surprise. I’m very interested in aviation mishap investigation and it was a delight to hear your take on it as I trust your process and your critical thinking. Thanks for the slight diversion from your usual fare, as much as I love that, too. Great video.
@@stoobydootoo4098 That’s fair, I should be more careful about phrasing. But of course I don’t think the disaster is fun. It was enjoyable to see someone I respect and like discuss it. I appreciate content that is well thought-out. I do recognize that the people affected are very real. I think it is okay to want to learn about and engage with difficult topics but I really ought to be more careful about how I talk about that.
Brilliant video. What a tragic mystery. I wonder if perhaps something like a gas leak or similar could have incapacitated or confused the pilots. That could explain the not repeating things back, the second unnecessary altitude, maybe the unusual flight pattern.. maybe an attempt to glide was made when things went wrong.. but who knows.
This was an excellent episode, I have watched several documentaries on this flight and more than a few have focused on conspiracy theories rather than facts. This was very informative and focused on data, facts and unbiased analysis. All evidence points to an experienced pilot with knowledge of the plane. There have been a few cases where pilots have committed suicide and taken innocent people with them and even if this incident was not the case it was too well planned to have that many coincidences.
Thank you for your time with this video. I remember this sat afternoon in Perth in Australia well that day all over the news. Some people with me that day have sadly passed on but you brought back so many memories. I just hope everyone on board were so hypoxic they never knew what was going on. Definitely a human tragedy 😔. Joins the legends of the marie Celeste and other human mystery tales. Well done on your amazing work. ❤
Thank you. Yes, I remember the initial news coverage too, then when the Inmarsat data came out and suddenly it emerged the searches were happening in entirely the wrong place, it was just insane.
Hi, interesting video. It's a mystery how the flight MH370 plane disappeared years ago. How are you doing? I'm doing well, and so is my cat Benjamin. Have a great day. See you next video
Great Video...I'm shocked the Malaysian military didn't do anything when it was showing up on radar. I also wish an emergency would have been declared sooner as it would have been easier to find the plane. 60 minutes Australia has another interview about 3 weeks ago. An Australian guy was out in the area it was thought to have crashed and and an airplane wing was caught in his net. He reported it, but the Malaysian govt has never followed up. Granted those first few days there was a lot of confusion. I really wish another search would be done. There's also a guy that has researched the interruptions in the radio waves that night that shows a flight path.
Very well done, collecting the information. I feel like the course change was a hi-jacking. I feel the people may of got the pilots to change course, but didn't know the fuel distance.
I think the mystery has been solved as to what happened, and you laid out the details very well in this video. I think the real mystery is not what happened, but why it happened. Even if the black boxes are found, we’ll never know the motive behind this event. Perhaps the pilot was suicidal and no one knew, and maybe the reason he did it in this manner is to try and cover up the fact he was suicidal as that would be culturally or religiously unacceptable. Anyways, that’s the speculation part and what makes it interesting. But those are answers that will never be revealed even if the plane happens to be found
This is a brilliant report. Do you think it's possible that the pilots or pilot were threatened somehow and that made it imperative to ditch the plane to save lives and just ran it out of fuel? I can think of a couple scenarios with this theme. I know this is recent history but its awesome and you did a great job. Thanks for all you do. You are a living rose in winter.
Thanks David. Honestly, my personal opinion is that that's unlikely but I admit that we're just never gonna know any more than we know now without the wreckage. I do wish it could be located.
You're welcome. I hope the plane is found, but if it broke up upon impact (or during sinking) or got buried in an underwater avalanche (or both), then sadly I doubt it :-(
I approached this mystery from an historical perspective when I came upon it some 14 months ago, Working from the assumption, with a high probability and possibility, that it was a controlled ditching to land the aircraft at a specified location to make it disappear when it sank, I went looking for a documented seabed in the southern Indian Ocean where this could happen. I found it in an easily accessible report which covered the Lusiad Expedition undertaken by the research vessels Argo and Horizon in the early 1960s. A third ship, the destroyer HMS Cavalier, was also involved making quite a story culminating in a sample being taken at a depth of 4328m on 22 November 1962 revealing the seabed to comprise metres deep of foraminiferal mud near 34S 96E. The aircraft is IN the seabed and I trust when it is located soon that it will be decided, for our humanity, to leave it there.
That was an extremely interesting episode. I feel very sorry for the passengers on the plane. If they were still alive & figured out that something was wrong they must have been terrified. I hope they died earlier & didn’t suffer.
Thank you. Yes, I hate thinking about what they suffered too. The best case scenario for them (and it's still awful) is that hypoxia put them to sleep, as that's painless at least.
Your video is fantastically succinct, really well done. I’m watching this on the 5th March 2024 and I will remember the victims and their families on the 10th anniversary, I hope they have found some peace.
Thank you. Yes, I can only hope the families have found whatever peace they can too, but of course I would love for the wreckage to be found to give them some additional closure and a place to go and throw a wreath.
Yes, I think it's now a toss up between this and Amelia as to which is the 'greatest aviation mystery of all time'. Personally I'd go for this one, but it's a tough choice at this point. I certainly hope they find MH370 too.
Funfact: Nearly all our knowledge about the topography of the ocean floor we have today comes from satellite data. Though there is a project currently on the way to map the entirety of the ocean floor via sonar. The satellite data works like that: Since the satellite can't look through the water surface the satellite measures the distance to the oceans surface. The slight difference in gravity that comes with underwater mountain ranges like the Mid-Atlantic Ridge causes the water surface to rise above the average while valleys cause the water surface to be slightly lower as well. The inaccuracy of such maps is inevitable but it is the best we have for now.
Yes, I've heard about ocean 'bulge'. It's a fascinating topic. Hopefully some day that tech. will advance to the point that it can somehow be used to locate the plane. Like I said in the video, it seems like sci fi at the moment, but so would the internet and mobile phones to people living just a century ago.
Whoever did this was absolutely an expert to have the knowledge in order to make a plane disappear without alerting ground controllers to it immediately and not being shot down, on top of still being missing to this day. When going with the most likely scenario that explains these perfectly executed maneuvers, it leads to only one conclusion. It’s terrifying to think about and my heart hurts for those lost and their loved ones. I think the aircraft will be found, there is just no way of knowing when. Wonderful video, this is a mystery I think of often and hope those lost souls can be given some closure.
It seems most likely to me that if the wreckage or debris field is discovered, it will be by people who are looking for something else and happen upon it in their grid survey. There is an awful lot of ocean floor, and it's expensive to search, so there would have to be some incentive to get the gear out there and make the effort. Sadly, I doubt that a lost plane would inspire that level of expense, many years on. I haven't kept up on this story, and this was a very good summary.
I can’t believe this was ten years ago. I was shocked. I would have put it at no more than five years ago at most. The theory that the captain was responsible somehow does seem very convincing. That makes it as horribly incomprehensible as the Germanwings crash, but it seems like this captain took steps to ensure it would be extremely difficult to conclusively lay the blame at his feet, which would spare his children grief and shame - despite the grief he inflicted on so many other families.
I definitely think one day it will be found. There were people who never thought the titanic would be found, and it eventually was with newer technology.
Those content context boxes are just put on all videos that are about extremely famous topics and topics which generate a lot of misinformation. I wouldn't read too much into it. They were placed on my videos about Titanic and Jackie Kennedy's pink suit too (even though the Kennedy video wasn't exactly about the JFK assassination).
I've watched a number of really good, informative videos on this mystery before and to me its pretty clear what happened. But I'll watch and see if I learn something new.🙂
Isn't life sometimes really weird at handing people good luck cards? I flew out of KL Malaysia (as a stopover flight) on my way back from Australia, to the UK. Hearing about this on the day after I returned home was just bizarre. I was living in Kings Cross London (posher side - Judd St) in Nov 87. Late afternoon I made my way to Hammersmith via the tube station 5 minutes away for a gig. Not soon after, The Kings Cross Tube Station fire erupted. I often wonder whether I am a jinx!!! 😳 Something very different this week HC - thanks.
I usually watch these videos to find out the true location of Catherine Howard’s head or if Charles Brandon was the real father of Henry Fitzroy, but it’s really fun to see you tackle this subject. Thank you!
Haha, well I think CH's head is most likely in the Chapel of St Peter Ad Vincula and I've never heard anything about CB being HF's dad. I've always thought HF looked like Henry VIII. Glad you enjoyed my little deviation from royal history though. :-)
Re the FO's phone connecting to a cell tower, I'm far more concerned about why his phone connected at all, rather than why did other people's phones not connect. Without some additional aerial, perhaps even external, then it may very well be highly unlikely that Hamid's phone would've made a connection. This is one piece of the evidence that appears to be an outlier.
I do not think MH370 will be found. I believe the plane pitched nose first into the ocean when it ran out of fuel. We have a Smithsonian Channel show broadcast here in the US called “Air Disasters”. It does dramatizations of notable air crashes/bombings/etc. One thing I have learned from it is that when a plane hits the ground or water at a rapid speed and/or high rate of descent, it basically gets pulverized. So the few pieces of plane that washed ashore in the western Indian Ocean are likely the largest pieces that exist.
Sadly I agree with you that that is a very likely option and I was just saying something similar to another commenter (that I've seen footage of high speed impacts and there was little left to suggest it had ever been a plane).
Happy Monday. Can’t believe it has been 10 years. I remember all the news coverage surrounding the disappearance It is sad that the family can’t get closure on what happened to the plane. Maybe they can use the technology that was used to find the billionaires who tried to see the titanic and died. Yet, I think it might just be lost forever. It is a weird how it disappeared
Yes, I remember it so well too. At first I thought 'Oh they'll definitely find this' and then when it emerged that the plane had flown into the southern Indian ocean, I thought 'Uh oh. I don't think they will actually'. I hope I'm wrong though.
Very interesting view on this incident. I am an avid viewer of various air accident channels, and it was very interesting to see an assessment of this from a historian. REgarding your question at the end, I do agree that the technology needed for such a search will eventually be available. I just hope it will be available for this kind of search soon enough that MH370 won't be forgotten about and/or too much time having passed such that any remains left on the ocean floor have been covered up in one way or another. I fear that with a violent enough impact during the final descent, the plane may have broken up in enough pieces that not enough is left to identify after several years of undisturbed rest in an underwater environment, even one several kilometres deep underwater.
Thank you. Yes, I hope the wreckage can be found too, but I share your concerns about the condition it's in and how long it might take for technology to get good enough to search the ocean floor in enough detail to find it :-(
I spent my last tour of duty in the air defense of the US. At least in the US the vast majority of radar coverage is civilian through FAA radars. I know they turn down the gain (IE the power to gather actual radar reflections) in favor of secondary radar. I am impressed that the Malaysian air traffic control actually tracks air planes by their skin paint (primary radar). It would be a miracle if this enigma is ever solved.
I must admit that I didn't entirely follow your comments about radar as they were a little bit too specialist for me, but tracking the planes by their paint is pretty wild. I didn't know that. I worry too that this one won't be completely solved. :-(
@@HistoryCallingSkin paint is Air Force speak for the actual primary radar return of an object. In the US the FAA generally only uses secondary radar for aircraft flying en route. Primary returns are more for approach and landing.
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A good synopsis of the data, without all the ridiculous conspiracies. However, like many journalists, you understandably don’t have the necessary technical knowledge to explore mechanical failures.
There is a mechanical accident that can explain the known facts. Firstly, it is a big misconception that an aircraft cannot fly on, meandering until it runs out of fuel with no conscious pilot or autopilot. The initial IGARI turn is an autopilot off turn with the pilots flying it. But subsequently the route can be explained by a hypoxic, meandering autopilot off flight--A hypoxic ghost flight.
So what mechanical failure fits with the known failures?…..well, damage to the left side of the avionics bay could knock out transponder/Satcom/autopilot and comms. What’s in the left side of the avionics bay? the crew oxygen cylinders.
If these were to rupture, all of the above electrical issues are likely, followed by a decompression which may have not been initially recognised by the crew. They were probably hypoxic shortly after the IGARI turn.
Please look into this failure scenario
Yes
I'm a high time commercial pilot who then changed careers and spent the past 20 years as an investigator. Because of my background I've followed this case fairly closely. I actually have no idea if it will be found, primarily because no one is currently searching for it, at least not officially. If that changes in future then I think there is a chance it will be found or, at least pieces of it. But even locating the wreckage after so much time may not solve the mystery.
I will add here that even though you're not an aviation expert or investigator although historians are a kind of investigator, this is one of the best and most concise summaries of this case I've seen, including your choices of visuals. kudos on a job well done.
Green Dot aviation has a good one on this too
You've tackled THE most enduring mystery of them all, IMO. You're gutsy and tenacious and SO APPRECIATED. There were snippets of Maybe-Info in my own ear-to-the-ground on MH370 - but having this concise presentation ready for a book or a courtroom speaks of your dedication to your craft. Very well done!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DONATION and for your very kind comment. I'm glad you found the video interesting and useful.
Nearly an hour long video about such a fascinating topic! Thank you History Calling! Incredibly excited to watch.
Thanks Rhianne. Yes, it took a very long time to put together but I find it a very interesting topic, so I wanted to do it.
What an unexpected treat!!! TY HC! I'm just starting to watch but my uncle is a retired airline pilot and is fixated on solving the MH370 disappearance as well. He did some consulting on another recent deep dive for the YT channel "Green Dot Aviation" (very reputable and also Irish lol). IDK if you saw that and I know I'm bias, but I was quite impressed with their conclusions. Looking forward to hearing how you disseminate the same information and finding out if you arrived at the same place. 🤗
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE VERY KIND DONATION MAGGIE. No, I'm not familiar with the other channel, but then again if it's strictly aviation it's not usually in my wheelhouse I suppose. I don't normally do anything this recent, but have always found this mystery very interesting in a depressing kind of a way.
I think it will be solved soon however none of those pieces have really ever been verified as coming from this flight except the flaperon and it could have very well been placed on on Reunion Island.
@@HistoryCalling I'm an aviation outsider but still found Green Dot's MH370 reconstruction easy to follow and at the end he explains his choices for each major point of contention (i.e, ditch vs dive, when those on board might have realized something was wrong, etc).
In your 100 thousand subtitles q&a you said this is one of the mysteries you’d most like to see solved, so it’s nice to see you try and do it!!
Oh, I don't think I can solve it unfortunately, but yes, I would love it if it could be solved, for the families' sakes if nothing else.
@@HistoryCalling......
It certainly is a BIG MYSTERY.
@@HistoryCalling i have a theory based on these findings and what we know. Let me know if I've missed anything that has been conclusively debunked.
It might've been possible for one of the head cabin crew to have been let in the cockpit, maybe the captains thought there was an issue and let them in or wanted to know about updates etc. Maybe then this is when they forced the pilots to do these things. Maybe that could explain the weird messages from the pilot, maybe it's because he was nervous. Maybe this person wanted to be taken somewhere and the plane ran out of fuel.
It reminds of an Ethiopian 777 which was hijacked and crashed into the sea because the hijacker wanted the pilot to take him somewhere but the plane ran out of fuel. The crash was caught on camera.
What do you think?
YESSSS
MH370
Jon Bonne Ramsey
Madilaine Mccaine
And that girl Maura that wrecked. And just completely dissapeared.
JonBenet was likely killed by her brother
The flight simulator data, for me, is highly suspect. In fact it gave me goosebumps as you read it. I really hope that the flight crew had nothing to do with the disappearance of the plane.
Yes, that is a little odd. Not conclusive I know, but odd.
All the governments in the region know what happened to MH370.
MH370 was carrying sensitive electronic equipment that the US did not want China to get.
The plane was hit by a US missile and it is laying underwater.
The US killed these poor people.
Do you suspect every piece of evidence in every controversial incident just because it doesn't fit with your gut feelings?
I do believe that the pilot had planned it all out, a practice run if you will
you are wrong do more research. It had smashed into bits flying into the sea at high speed. Parts from the plane with identification numbers have washed up on Réunion island
The first MH370 part to be identified by French assessors, this large piece of debris was found washed up on the beach on Réunion island by local man Johnny Bègue more than a year after the plane disappeared.@user-vs3jl6hq2e
This is literally the best summary of this tragic event I've ever watched
I so agree.😢
Thank you so much. It took a long time to research and put together, so I'm very glad it's appreciated :-)
The ability to disseminate what must have been mounds of data, reports, terminology and varying opinions on fault into a riveting analysis so very well done!
I love all of your videos but for you to stray away from what you normally do and have it be, in my opinion, more fantastic than anything else in your catalog was just wonderful!
Thank you so much Elsie. That's so kind of you to say and I'm glad you found the video interesting :-)
Thank you for such an informative video.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DONATION ROBIN. I'm really glad you found the video interesting too.
Wow. I can’t believe this was 10 years ago. It feels like just a few years ago. So sad.
I know. It's just awful for their families; such a long time to not have any real answers.
I had the same thought! How the years go by (when you're older).
same here. shock
Not the type of topic I expect from History Calling, but this was a great video.
Yes, it is different for me in terms of how recent it is. I do find mysteries fascinating though.
Something different, but as expected for HC, excellently researched and presented. This always sat in the back of my mind in the eeky part of things that shouldn't have been.
👏👏👏I must admit I had some trouble getting to sleep after watching this on Patreon, HC. It's the stuff nightmares are made of. I remembered you mentioned Flight MH370 in your 2022 Q&A so I'm glad you finally brought your investigative skill to this mystery. A question: in terms of research, how did this compare with your investigation of Benjamin Bathurst's disappearance and the Princes in the Tower? Great job, HC! Have a great week. 🙏🏼
Oops. Sorry! Hope you're not too tired. This was easier because the official reports are freely available and easy to read and perhaps a little harder because of the sheer quantity of material to wade through.
@@HistoryCalling 😂 No worries. I'm retired after all so a good nap is all I need.
@@stephencarrillo5905 A good nap is always most welcome -at my age anyway. 🤣
Thanks HC for another well researched, but disturbing video. So many innocent lives lost in what must have been a terrifying ordeal. The passengers must have felt the plane banking and changing direction before anything else happened to them. All the evidence does point towards the captain, but there is always the possibility that it was someone else. It is really worrying that airline pilots etc can so easily orchestrate a murder/suicide event. There does not seem to be any way that cabin staff can initiate a mayday signal either. Inmarsat is known to be a technically reliable company, so I would be happy to accept their findings. I hope that airline tracking has improved in the last 10 years. Will it be found? Probably in years to come. The French plane that came down in a storm mid Atlantic was found in deep water, so there is hope that this tragedy will be resolved. It is still a very troubling event. 💐
Yes, it is a heartbreaking story and like you, I would like better safety in the cockpit (like 3 people minimum there all the time). I hope they find it too.
These poor people.
To say the must have been terrified is an extreme understatement.
I always hope they either didn't notice a problem, or that it was over quickly for them. :-(
How could you know that they were terrified? Or had any awareness of a possible problem?
I’m guessing the cabin was depressurized and they could’ve all been knocked out before anyone got worked up enough to know what was going on/create a fuss.
This was a fantastic video. Thank you so much for putting this together for all of us 🥰
Thanks Laura. You're very welcome. It took a long time to research and create, so I'm glad it's appreciated.
Thanks!
Great video!
OH WOW THERESA! Thank you very much. For such a generous donation, I certainly hope you find the video interesting.
I’m so glad there are people out there with deeper pockets than mine that can support HC’s stellar work! Thank you Theresa! And thank you for another wonderful video HC! This one was really exceptional.
Chills.. Great video, thank you for covering this. X
You're so welcome. I'm glad you found it interesting. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have briefly read some of the infos on Wikipedia about this and realized how much was written and discussed about this flight. So very well done to summarize this so understandably in this video! Thank you and well done!
Thank you. Yes, there's a lot to digest and I certainly couldn't have done it without the official reports, which are very long, but clearly and logically written. It's a shame more of the conspiracy theory nuts out there wouldn't sit down and go through them.
Yes. 😢 MH370 will give up enough hard-side evidence to be identified ... eventually. Unfathomable, this incident. Your deep research and passion for your job are truly profound.
Thank you very much. I hope it's found too. Unfathomable is the word for it. It's terrifying to think someone sat and thought this up.
Hi history calling good evening. You are such a good TH-camr
Thank you very much. I hope you find the video interesting (I'm not sure if enjoyable is really the right word, given the topic).
Something is definitely suspicious. There are too many oversights and inconsistencies to make it seem just a tragic accident. My heart breaks for the families who lost loved ones on that fateful flight and the mental torment of wondering if they suffered before they perished. I can't even imagine. 💔
Many thanks to you, HC, for such an in-depth search for answers. Your videos are always a much anticipated part of my week.
My sense of what was presented by HC is that the perpetrator recognized, planned for and took full advantage of weaknesses in the probable on-ground response. I didn't get the sense that there was any collaboration on the part of the military or the ATC personnel, but simply that the perpetrator fully understood how to lull ground support systems into complacency until it was far too late, anticipated that chaos would ensue, and also knew how to conceal all evidence of what they had been planning.
I followed this tragedy closely thru a variety of news sources. I still learned new info listening to your thoughtfully reasoned discourse. This crash will be with me till its found or until i breath my last. Thank you for wading thru reams of information in a subject you are not trained in to help us all keep learning.
Warm regards from a ridge runner in the southern highlands of Appalachia US of A
Thank you so much. It was fascinating to read the reports actually. If you're really interested in the mystery, I advise you to take a look at them. I found them so interesting that I was willingly reading them on my weekend. On a side-note, I've always thought the Appalachians look so beautiful. I'd love to visit some day.
Regarding the simulator data: if he WAS trying to figure out whatever his plan ended up being on the simulator he wouldn’t have made it easy to find even if he never expected to be alive when it was searched
The one data point around how long until the fuel ran out close enough to the eventual search area in the Indian Ocean has me convinced the Captain ran at least one simulation
It tracks that he would have experimented on his simulator in a obfuscative way, at least to me 😔
Yes, I must admit that while that data is not conclusive, I found it very concerning as well.
@@HistoryCalling Do we know that it WAS easy to find? What was found seems kind of equivocal, which would make sense if the perpetrator wanted to leave everybody in doubt.
Another great video! Your research is incredible! ❤
Thank you so much. All credit to the investigators who put together the reports though. I was mostly just following and summarising what they said.
As a pilot I am
Impressed that you took on this event. I felt it was weird how quickly it seemed this event was ‘forgotten’ by the media (though the past few years seems to happen more- like the Russian pipeline). I know it’s brought up from time to time but seemed to drop out of the news cycle earlier than I thought it would. Maybe it was bigger in China? Either way you are helping to keep the memory of the passengers and crew alive.
Thanks Sara. It was a big task to make a video on it, but I find it very interesting in a depressing sort of a way. I think it appears more often in the Australian news cycle too.
This was an unexpected topic from you, but I enjoyed this video so much! I love it when you take on historical mysteries!
Wow, really clear and concise video! Thanks!
Thanks Sharon. I'm glad you found it interesting :-)
Thank you for the great deep dive.
I remember how shocked I was when I learned the leading theory. 60 Minutes uploaded an Australia piece on YT.
The theories weren't well known and still aren't here in the USA.
Well done HC. This is the best and most clear analysis of MH370 I've heard. Sadly, I doubt the plane will ever be found. RIP to all those lost.😢🙏
You surprised me with this subject. Who ever was piloting the AC wanted the Flight's disappearance to be a mystery. It is scary when you sometimes think of how much trust we give people with our lives. How can they be truly monitored ? Motive is important... but finding that has been problematic. I don't know if its because of agent's ' obfuscation or a true lack of evidence . There are probably some people who would like this to remain a mystery. I admit the small indicators don't look good for the pilot...but a preponderance of evidence is the best we can do for now. Good subject.
Thank you. Yes, it is very different for me as it's so recent, but I've been fascinated by it since it happened and really wanted to research it more and do a video on it. I shan't be making a habit of 21st century topics though. I agree that it is scary how much we have to trust some people with our lives. Personally, I wish all flights had at least 3 people in the cockpit so no one could ever be left alone.
Great video. I think the captain brought the plane down on purpose but I don't understand why he flew around until he ran out of fuel. Seems like that would give him way too much time to think about it and start to have doubts. I do think the plane will be found someday.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE VERY KIND DONATION. If we assume for a moment that he did it (and I admit that the evidence is not conclusive) he wouldn't necessarily have been awake the whole time. Once the autopilot was set, he could have allowed himself to succumb to hypoxia and passed out.
Excellent video HC!
Thanks Sarah :-)
That was -- to use a much-overworked word accurately -- fascinating. Thank you for putting so much effort into this longer-than-usual episode, which I know I'll re-watch, as I have all of your prior programs. Btw, I do agree with you that while the MH370 *may* someday be located, it isn't at all likely.
It's all very strange. I find the airflight simulator data of the captain to be interesting? information, but theres really not enough info.
I will say that there doesn't need to be a conspiracy or family deliberately saving face to say the captain seemed normal and not suicidal before though.
Very often, friends and family are completely unaware of the inner feelings of people who commit suicide. Many suicidal people deliberately conceal such feelings.
I think it'd be especially horrible to consider the thought that a loved one comitted a murder suicide.
Tragically, I completely agree with you. It does appear to come out of nowhere with a lot of people, even though the problems have obviously been bubbling for a long time.
What people don't understand is how slack Malaysian Airlines security procedures were at the time. (And are now) A key piece of evidence is their lack of always having 2 crew in the cockpit at any time. A 2 crew operation should have a cabin crew member come up and sit in a jump seat while a pilot is out in the toilet. This allows 1/ someone to open the door if the auto open function fails to work 2/ prevents the flying pilot from locking the door from the inside.
Malaysian Airlines didn't do this, and that allowed the Captain to lock the door and do what he was intending to do. The F/O couldn't get in to stop the inevitable.
While I wholeheartedly agree that it's not good to ever have only one person in the cockpit, I don't think this is particular to Malaysian Airlines. The Lufthansa (I think that's the correct airline) flight that one of the pilots deliberately crashed into the mountains a few years ago for instance had the same policy. It's something I think should be changed across the industry.
There are some surprisingly slack airlines that don't implement secure cockpit procedures. The decision is up to the operator and the responsibility is that of the national regulators.
Great video-very informative. I usually stick to your Tudor/Plantagnet content as it's my primary interest and what I specialised in but this is a modern mystery which I'd love to see solved. I agree that there's simply not enough evidence or information to pin the blame on any one person even if certain things look suspicious. I truly hope the wreckage is found and gives some closure to the family. What an awful way to lose someone xx
I just found a documentary about this from Netflix. I guess I'm going to go watch it now, since you got me all interested about this mystery flight. Thanks for the video! 😁
Thanks for a great video! I can’t imagine the work it took to make it.
The disappearance of that plane is a mystery I hope someone solves. It’s so strange.
Not even a few weeks ago I watched a documentary about this. It had crazy theories. Yours made perfect sense.
Since there’s no way of ever knowing what happened and I found out about the captain’s flight simulation, I’m convinced he did something.
This disaster always makes me think about the plane from Egypt that did do a nose dive.
You did a great job again!!!
Thank you.
There's a very good video on the Green Dot Aviation channel on here with what I think is the solution to what happened on this flight. I wasn't going to watch your video as I was satisfied by Green Dot's video, but I'm glad I have watched. I think you've done a very good job, differently from the aviation channels, but for those of us who don't understand all the plane and aviation stuff very well, this is an excellent rundown.
This was exceedingly well researched. I don’t think you left any stone unturned. It is also very unsettling. I just think of the passengers. Did they know they were off course? Did the cabin crew suspect anything? It is chilling to think of what occurred and that prolly at some time before actual impact, they had to have known. You are always amazing in your efforts. Thank you HC.
Thank you. I mostly just followed the two reports, so all credit to the investigators who put them together. I hate thinking of the poor passengers too as I think they must have known something was off at some point.
hey Hc, hope you’re having a fabulous start to the week! i’m on timeish this week😅
Hi, thank you. You too. :-)
Thanks. Oh never got notifications on the last 3 of your videos. ( 3 ) TH-cam being TH-cam.
Thank you for this thorough examination of this mystery. Very good video.
I have to confess that this story, when it was in the news, frustrated me so much that I tuned completely out, eventually boycotting all news sites for weeks. News media obsessed over it, quite rightly, but without any new information, day after day. It became the only story, but it was simply an unanswered and seemingly unanswerable question. The total saturation mirrored the days after JFK Jr.'s plane was lost, but there was never any resolution, and most days, no development. Thanks for this needed overview. Whether or not the wreck can ever be found, it seems that the heart of the answer lies in a mental health situation that will remain forever mysterious.
Yes, the media does tend to do that sometimes, doesn't it? Then of course, when there's an info. vacuum, people make up outlandish stuff (it's happening at the moment around the Princess of Wales's illness). The 24hr news cycle has a lot to answer for.
@@HistoryCalling Target fixation, to use an aerial metaphor.
I was surprised at first that you would cover this - I have watched a number of videos on this subject as I am an avionics fan. You've done a very good job of pulling all the facts together. Yes I hope that the wreckage will be found. Its a big ocean out there however, and I think it will take quite a while to come across it.
This was great! But there are two counterpoints, first you said there is no radar coverage in the southern Indian Ocean.
While there is no civilian radar coverage, Australia has a military radar system called JORN which does cover massive swaths of this region. They very likely would have seen the aircraft.
Second, ACARS was turned back on after initially being turned off along with the transponder. Pilots are not trained on how to turn ACARS on and this can only be done from inside the avionics bay of the aircraft and not from inside the cockpit.
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Regarding your points, I was just following what was in the two reports I mentioned. They're both linked in the description box for you, so if you feel there is an error in the video you can double check the info. there. I don't recall ever seeing any mention of JORN for example and I think Australia would have said if they'd been able to 'see' the aircraft, given how much money they've ploughed into trying to find it. Perhaps I overlooked something though.
I had read most of the information you gave us, and I also listened to the reports from the subsequent search teams. My opinion, given what I've absorbed (and I have no flight experiences, but some science), is that this was an intentional nose dive, and the plane broke up as it plummeted at high speed, and then hit the water. It is shattered to bits. It is my hope that the passengers and non flight crew were unconscious or dead well before this happened. I do not wish to blame any particular person, but whoever did this knew exactly what to do, and had the capacity to do so. It still haunts me. Whenever this shows up in my personal awareness, I light some incense and a candle for all the souls, including the mad one that potentially committed this horror.
This is a great insight into the biggest aviation mystery, and while we'll never know what went on in the flight deck on that fateful night, everything from the behaviour of the flight path, to the manual depressurisation, to the unusual "Good night, Malaysia 370" read back instead of reading back the instructions as per standard radio communications, to the fact that the captain had a simulator set up at his home and showing a simulated flight to the Indian Ocean, to the fact that all passengers checked out with no red flags, I'm willing to bet the captain had something to do with this even though he had a nice list of positives and was highly regarded, I get the feeling he was just a regular guy with a lovely family and a successful career and everything was going great in his favour, but at the same time some sort of other character was building up from something that silently triggered him, probably the last days or weeks leading up to this, and it's a character that was well hidden from everyone, until that night.
But of course it's only a speculation, we will never know what actually happened, and even if we do find the wreck, and the black boxes (here's hoping), will any of that reveal what actually happened on that night?
It's been said that those CVR's tape over themselves every 30 minutes or something like that, and I think it's something to do with the engines running, but recording stops as soon as the engines stop, or so I remember from a documentary a long time ago, anyways, if that's the case, yeah those CVR's aren't going to reveal anything more than a few beeps and some ambient sounds, and probably the sounds of impact onto the ocean, assuming the data would still be retrievable after all this time under water, but there's high chances that all cockpit conversations are long gone, and assuming the captain was in on all of this, he knew exactly what he was doing.
Anyways, it's all speculation until we can find it, great job putting all of this together 👍
An excellent analysis of the data, HC! I wasn't prepared for how terrifying the story would be, showing as it did that a highly skilled person deliberately flew that plane to one of the most impossibly deep and remote places on the globe. What got my heart pounding was how you showed the sophistication of what happened and the precise moment when it happened. I tried to imagine the poor people in that plane, if they were conscious, as they realized they were doomed. I also wondered if the perpetrator took his own and the other pilot's life before the end came. I hope something is eventually found, but it probably won't be enough to complete the dreadful story. The plane that crashed in a Pennsylvania field on September 11, 2001 apparently did not leave enough evidence to confirm what happened inside the plane, despite passengers making phone calls to their families. This suggests to me that even finding more of the wreckage of MH370 won't reveal much.
This was such a sad event that i say everyone wants to know about and I hope we find out more in the future
Yes, it's a real tragedy. My heart goes out to the family and friends of those lost. It must just be torture for them :-(
@@HistoryCalling I know and I hope that some day they will get their justice as to what happened to their family
Yes, I hope they get answers too.
Yes you're a historian and not a aviation expert but this is part of history. And I'm very happy that you're visiting this because you know how to sift through data and when to make an opinion and we're not. Thank you for this video.
The part that caught my ear was that the captain did not repeat the coordinates and then said good night. Now that might be quite normal and what they do considering this was at midnight or so, but did anyone ask if that was his normal greeting or sign off?
By far the best reporting about the MH370 incident that I’ve ever heard. I do not believe the mystery will ever be solved.
I just commented to my husband a few days ago about this lost plane. I don't know what brought it to my mind , but I asked him if there had ever been any info about what happened. Then this video popped up. Very interesting... and scary. I didn't realize it had been 10 yrs ago this month!
I was watching this podcast with Dr.Kay from the TH-cam channel; it made me thinking (…) why didn’t they invited YOU on.
Ah, I don't do appearances though. I like my privacy too much :-)
Ohhhh, you could have been so great with them.
So interesting and thorough. Very sad.
I know. My heart breaks for the family and friends of those involved. :-(
Ooh, this is gonna be a bit hard to watch, as I have a panic of plains (this mystery and other crashes being one of the reasons why), but I hope I can, for a good mystery is hard to resist!!
Even with flukes like this though, it's still the safest way to travel (though I admit that probably doesn't help if you have a phobia). If this was a result of human action rather than mechanical failure though, which I think it was, then you could just as easily be harmed by a crazed motorist. Think of it like that.
Hi friend. How are you ?
@@HistoryCalling true, but I’d rather pass in a car accident than in a plane one- the panic is too much, plus, I have a fear of travelling by sea, so plane travels over the sea are a terrible mix for me😭😭 when visiting my father in Brazil four years ago, I took so many sleeping pills to calm down, and still didn’t fall asleep in the 11 hour night plane trip💀
@@DarthDread-oh2ne I’m good, thanks, no planes to board :) hope you are as well!
Yikes, that is quite the phobia and I understand what you mean about the plane over water being a double whammy. Erm, maybe be careful with the sleeping tablets though. You don't wanna die from an OD of those either :-0
I think the 40° and 180° jerks might be from a fight breaking out in the cockpit. I also think the captain has some sort of mental break in the months prior and committed himself to his end. I think the flight simulator data were his practice sessions to make sure he didn't lose his nerve. There are lots of stories about people who hid their mental states for years from friends & family. And this way was ambiguous enough that his family (hopefully) wouldn't deal with any stigma, insurance hold ups, or community ostracization.
I also think the best places to check for any remnants would be areas along the sea floor, or anything that pokes up into the hadal or abyssal zones. Basically a second sea-floor trawling mission, except for longer and with higher resolution sensors.
I'd even consider following deep ocean currents in that area to see if any of those towers (the ones covered in tube worms) interrupt the current's flow. Debris could have gotten caught in the rocks and worm colonies.
I'd also be checking the bellies of anything that washed ashore from the deep sea. Metal and plastic don't digest well, after all.
With the technology and funding we have now for such projects, I don't believe anything will ever be found on purpose. If anything pops up, it'll be incidental to another expedition... Like when construction workers find archaeology stuff on the job.
Yes, perhaps it will be as part of some other expedition that more evidence pops up. In the searches which have already occurred for the plane for example, some 19th century shipwrecks were found.
A direct and concise video of the MH370 disaster. Very well--presented, HC!
May the wreckage one day be found, if at all, and if the locating and salvage technology has advanced any further. My condolences to the family and relatives of the innocent passengers who perished along with the plane. 😢🛫
They claim that it was in fact the first officer whom made the last radio call... That means it was him who was in control as almost immediately after is when the transponder went off. If the captain was initially making the radio calls, that would mean the first officer was the one flying. The fact that his phone alone attempted to connect some time later as well, adds to this being the case.
For sure the military were not looking in real time, there's an air force base on the mainland in Penang state RMAF Butterworth from which they could have intercepted if they'd been paying attention.
The guy interviewed on the Megyn Kelly show certainly thought they were asleep, but I don't know that he had any proof.
@@HistoryCalling I lived for a while on Penang Island, would often hear the military jets. There is a fairly large contingent of Australian air force people stationed there too. I knew one socially but he couldn't/wouldn't disclose why they were there.
Hello HC, Fun fact: Did you know, there was talks of marrying Richard iii to Isabel of Castille ?
No, I don't remember hearing that one.
Good video. It's hard to imagine a plausible scenario that doesn't involve one of the pilots deliberately hijacking this plane. Of the two, the evidence strongly leans towards the captain. The lack of an apparent motive is not exculpatory evidence. It would be nice if we knew why. It would make more sense. But ultimately, motive is not necessary to establish guilt.
Yes, at the present time I admit that that does seem the most likely scenario, but of course we'll never know for sure without the plane (and frankly, maybe not even then, depending on what exactly was found and the condition it was in).
I do have to wonder, if the plane shattered on impact with the water then why have no bodies/body parts, luggage or pieces of cargo washed up?
This was a really fun surprise. I’m very interested in aviation mishap investigation and it was a delight to hear your take on it as I trust your process and your critical thinking. Thanks for the slight diversion from your usual fare, as much as I love that, too. Great video.
Thanks Carol. I'm just the same. I'm always watching shows like Air Crash Investigation.
Yes. Aren't all disasters which result in scores of deaths a total hoot?
@@stoobydootoo4098 That’s fair, I should be more careful about phrasing. But of course I don’t think the disaster is fun. It was enjoyable to see someone I respect and like discuss it. I appreciate content that is well thought-out. I do recognize that the people affected are very real. I think it is okay to want to learn about and engage with difficult topics but I really ought to be more careful about how I talk about that.
I LOVE your Irish accent 🇨🇮🍀
Thank you :-)
Absolutely fascinating.
Green dot aviation also covered this topic - very interesting from an aviation guy and worth a watch. Enjoyed this one too 😊😊
Great Topic !!! Above and Beyond on this gem
Thank you so much. Glad you found it interesting. :-)
Brilliant video. What a tragic mystery. I wonder if perhaps something like a gas leak or similar could have incapacitated or confused the pilots. That could explain the not repeating things back, the second unnecessary altitude, maybe the unusual flight pattern.. maybe an attempt to glide was made when things went wrong.. but who knows.
This was an excellent episode, I have watched several documentaries on this flight and more than a few have focused on conspiracy theories rather than facts. This was very informative and focused on data, facts and unbiased analysis. All evidence points to an experienced pilot with knowledge of the plane. There have been a few cases where pilots have committed suicide and taken innocent people with them and even if this incident was not the case it was too well planned to have that many coincidences.
Thank you for your time with this video. I remember this sat afternoon in Perth in Australia well that day all over the news. Some people with me that day have sadly passed on but you brought back so many memories. I just hope everyone on board were so hypoxic they never knew what was going on. Definitely a human tragedy 😔. Joins the legends of the marie Celeste and other human mystery tales. Well done on your amazing work. ❤
Thank you. Yes, I remember the initial news coverage too, then when the Inmarsat data came out and suddenly it emerged the searches were happening in entirely the wrong place, it was just insane.
Continued prayers and hugs to the loved ones of the victims. No closure is a brutal emotional experience.
Hi, interesting video. It's a mystery how the flight MH370 plane disappeared years ago. How are you doing? I'm doing well, and so is my cat Benjamin. Have a great day. See you next video
Hi Michelle. I'm good thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Give Benjamin a pet for me :-)
Great Video...I'm shocked the Malaysian military didn't do anything when it was showing up on radar. I also wish an emergency would have been declared sooner as it would have been easier to find the plane. 60 minutes Australia has another interview about 3 weeks ago. An Australian guy was out in the area it was thought to have crashed and and an airplane wing was caught in his net. He reported it, but the Malaysian govt has never followed up. Granted those first few days there was a lot of confusion. I really wish another search would be done. There's also a guy that has researched the interruptions in the radio waves that night that shows a flight path.
Very well done, collecting the information. I feel like the course change was a hi-jacking. I feel the people may of got the pilots to change course, but didn't know the fuel distance.
I think the mystery has been solved as to what happened, and you laid out the details very well in this video. I think the real mystery is not what happened, but why it happened. Even if the black boxes are found, we’ll never know the motive behind this event. Perhaps the pilot was suicidal and no one knew, and maybe the reason he did it in this manner is to try and cover up the fact he was suicidal as that would be culturally or religiously unacceptable. Anyways, that’s the speculation part and what makes it interesting. But those are answers that will never be revealed even if the plane happens to be found
This is a brilliant report. Do you think it's possible that the pilots or pilot were threatened somehow and that made it imperative to ditch the plane to save lives and just ran it out of fuel? I can think of a couple scenarios with this theme. I know this is recent history but its awesome and you did a great job. Thanks for all you do. You are a living rose in winter.
Thanks David. Honestly, my personal opinion is that that's unlikely but I admit that we're just never gonna know any more than we know now without the wreckage. I do wish it could be located.
Thank you for researching this for us! Wonder if we will ever know!
You're welcome. I hope the plane is found, but if it broke up upon impact (or during sinking) or got buried in an underwater avalanche (or both), then sadly I doubt it :-(
19:42 the scale can’t be OVERestimated?
I approached this mystery from an historical perspective when I came upon it some 14 months ago, Working from the assumption, with a high probability and possibility, that it was a controlled ditching to land the aircraft at a specified location to make it disappear when it sank, I went looking for a documented seabed in the southern Indian Ocean where this could happen. I found it in an easily accessible report which covered the Lusiad Expedition undertaken by the research vessels Argo and Horizon in the early 1960s. A third ship, the destroyer HMS Cavalier, was also involved making quite a story culminating in a sample being taken at a depth of 4328m on 22 November 1962 revealing the seabed to comprise metres deep of foraminiferal mud near 34S 96E. The aircraft is IN the seabed and I trust when it is located soon that it will be decided, for our humanity, to leave it there.
That was an extremely interesting episode. I feel very sorry for the passengers on the plane. If they were still alive & figured out that something was wrong they must have been terrified. I hope they died earlier & didn’t suffer.
Thank you. Yes, I hate thinking about what they suffered too. The best case scenario for them (and it's still awful) is that hypoxia put them to sleep, as that's painless at least.
Your video is fantastically succinct, really well done. I’m watching this on the 5th March 2024 and I will remember the victims and their families on the 10th anniversary, I hope they have found some peace.
Thank you. Yes, I can only hope the families have found whatever peace they can too, but of course I would love for the wreckage to be found to give them some additional closure and a place to go and throw a wreath.
This disappearance will likely end up like Amelia Earhart.
A mystery and the stuff of folklore for decades.
For the families I hope they find it.
Sad.
Yes, I think it's now a toss up between this and Amelia as to which is the 'greatest aviation mystery of all time'. Personally I'd go for this one, but it's a tough choice at this point. I certainly hope they find MH370 too.
Funfact: Nearly all our knowledge about the topography of the ocean floor we have today comes from satellite data. Though there is a project currently on the way to map the entirety of the ocean floor via sonar. The satellite data works like that: Since the satellite can't look through the water surface the satellite measures the distance to the oceans surface. The slight difference in gravity that comes with underwater mountain ranges like the Mid-Atlantic Ridge causes the water surface to rise above the average while valleys cause the water surface to be slightly lower as well. The inaccuracy of such maps is inevitable but it is the best we have for now.
Sounds like it’s definitely too imprecise to locate plane wreckage, anyway.
Yes, I've heard about ocean 'bulge'. It's a fascinating topic. Hopefully some day that tech. will advance to the point that it can somehow be used to locate the plane. Like I said in the video, it seems like sci fi at the moment, but so would the internet and mobile phones to people living just a century ago.
Whoever did this was absolutely an expert to have the knowledge in order to make a plane disappear without alerting ground controllers to it immediately and not being shot down, on top of still being missing to this day. When going with the most likely scenario that explains these perfectly executed maneuvers, it leads to only one conclusion.
It’s terrifying to think about and my heart hurts for those lost and their loved ones. I think the aircraft will be found, there is just no way of knowing when. Wonderful video, this is a mystery I think of often and hope those lost souls can be given some closure.
It seems most likely to me that if the wreckage or debris field is discovered, it will be by people who are looking for something else and happen upon it in their grid survey. There is an awful lot of ocean floor, and it's expensive to search, so there would have to be some incentive to get the gear out there and make the effort.
Sadly, I doubt that a lost plane would inspire that level of expense, many years on.
I haven't kept up on this story, and this was a very good summary.
I can’t believe this was ten years ago. I was shocked. I would have put it at no more than five years ago at most. The theory that the captain was responsible somehow does seem very convincing. That makes it as horribly incomprehensible as the Germanwings crash, but it seems like this captain took steps to ensure it would be extremely difficult to conclusively lay the blame at his feet, which would spare his children grief and shame - despite the grief he inflicted on so many other families.
I definitely think one day it will be found. There were people who never thought the titanic would be found, and it eventually was with newer technology.
Always thought there was something VERY iffy about this and the fact there is a content context box slapped on here does little to change my mind 🤔
Those content context boxes are just put on all videos that are about extremely famous topics and topics which generate a lot of misinformation. I wouldn't read too much into it. They were placed on my videos about Titanic and Jackie Kennedy's pink suit too (even though the Kennedy video wasn't exactly about the JFK assassination).
Lol I have used to listen your voice to tudor history. But this is nice for a change.
I've watched a number of really good, informative videos on this mystery before and to me its pretty clear what happened. But I'll watch and see if I learn something new.🙂
Isn't life sometimes really weird at handing people good luck cards? I flew out of KL Malaysia (as a stopover flight) on my way back from Australia, to the UK. Hearing about this on the day after I returned home was just bizarre.
I was living in Kings Cross London (posher side - Judd St) in Nov 87. Late afternoon I made my way to Hammersmith via the tube station 5 minutes away for a gig. Not soon after, The Kings Cross Tube Station fire erupted. I often wonder whether I am a jinx!!! 😳
Something very different this week HC - thanks.
No, you're not a jinx. If anything, I'd say you're remarkably lucky.
What HC said, Chris. If I'm on an extended trip I'd feel safer with you as a companion. 😉
@@stephencarrillo5905 I hope my telekinesis doesn't kick in!!!
I usually watch these videos to find out the true location of Catherine Howard’s head or if Charles Brandon was the real father of Henry Fitzroy, but it’s really fun to see you tackle this subject. Thank you!
Haha, well I think CH's head is most likely in the Chapel of St Peter Ad Vincula and I've never heard anything about CB being HF's dad. I've always thought HF looked like Henry VIII. Glad you enjoyed my little deviation from royal history though. :-)
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Re the FO's phone connecting to a cell tower, I'm far more concerned about why his phone connected at all, rather than why did other people's phones not connect.
Without some additional aerial, perhaps even external, then it may very well be highly unlikely that Hamid's phone would've made a connection.
This is one piece of the evidence that appears to be an outlier.
I do not think MH370 will be found. I believe the plane pitched nose first into the ocean when it ran out of fuel. We have a Smithsonian Channel show broadcast here in the US called “Air Disasters”. It does dramatizations of notable air crashes/bombings/etc. One thing I have learned from it is that when a plane hits the ground or water at a rapid speed and/or high rate of descent, it basically gets pulverized. So the few pieces of plane that washed ashore in the western Indian Ocean are likely the largest pieces that exist.
Sadly I agree with you that that is a very likely option and I was just saying something similar to another commenter (that I've seen footage of high speed impacts and there was little left to suggest it had ever been a plane).
Great job!
Happy Monday. Can’t believe it has been 10 years. I remember all the news coverage surrounding the disappearance It is sad that the family can’t get closure on what happened to the plane. Maybe they can use the technology that was used to find the billionaires who tried to see the titanic and died. Yet, I think it might just be lost forever. It is a weird how it disappeared
Yes, I remember it so well too. At first I thought 'Oh they'll definitely find this' and then when it emerged that the plane had flown into the southern Indian ocean, I thought 'Uh oh. I don't think they will actually'. I hope I'm wrong though.
Very interesting view on this incident. I am an avid viewer of various air accident channels, and it was very interesting to see an assessment of this from a historian. REgarding your question at the end, I do agree that the technology needed for such a search will eventually be available. I just hope it will be available for this kind of search soon enough that MH370 won't be forgotten about and/or too much time having passed such that any remains left on the ocean floor have been covered up in one way or another. I fear that with a violent enough impact during the final descent, the plane may have broken up in enough pieces that not enough is left to identify after several years of undisturbed rest in an underwater environment, even one several kilometres deep underwater.
Thank you. Yes, I hope the wreckage can be found too, but I share your concerns about the condition it's in and how long it might take for technology to get good enough to search the ocean floor in enough detail to find it :-(
I spent my last tour of duty in the air defense of the US. At least in the US the vast majority of radar coverage is civilian through FAA radars. I know they turn down the gain (IE the power to gather actual radar reflections) in favor of secondary radar. I am impressed that the Malaysian air traffic control actually tracks air planes by their skin paint (primary radar). It would be a miracle if this enigma is ever solved.
I must admit that I didn't entirely follow your comments about radar as they were a little bit too specialist for me, but tracking the planes by their paint is pretty wild. I didn't know that. I worry too that this one won't be completely solved. :-(
@@HistoryCallingSkin paint is Air Force speak for the actual primary radar return of an object. In the US the FAA generally only uses secondary radar for aircraft flying en route. Primary returns are more for approach and landing.