I'm a 68 y/o woman and, my dear, our government has been lying to us long before Vietnam. Even before J.P.Morgan, Rockefellers, Hearst and others ran the papers, the banks and the railroads.
Maybe but the lie was not supported by the their worst enemies at that time the Russians, whereas if there is a cover up regarding the MH370 it needs to be held up but the Chinese and the American government which does not make the beginning of a sense...
One of the best reporters in a world filled with talking heads who say nothing while running their mouths on the news. Thank you, Ross, for another great report.
What parallel universe did you watch this in? This reporter/interviewer just ran his mouth during the whole video. Many of his sentences were super long and unnecessary.
Hi Ross! My name is Antonio i am a Portuguese nacional ex Navy (Portguese Marines) and want to congratulate you for your exelent work! I have been a folower of your work and i consider you one of the best investigative journalist. I have heard hundreds of theories about every motive you can think of , in rectrospect is my opinion that the fact you thought of folowing this one is briliant. And also your guest Larry Vance ( wich by the way , alongside Greg Feith from the NTSB are two of the best crash investigators in the world),it my hope that all of you can educate the public a bit more about this tragic event. Thank you for your exelent work. All the best to you (Mate).
Im a small country called ESwatini former Swaziland ive been following this disappearance of MH370 and always praying for speedy recovering of the people God knows where are they and i know they will be found may our heavenly Father give strength to the searchers
NEWSNATION TEAM: I really want Ross’ segments to do great, which means changing the thumbnail every time or you are going to get people who are scrolling, see the standard base image of the show, think they have seen it and keep scrolling. You will lose views to this I promise. This needs changing for every episode! Good luck Ross, appreciate the hard work mate!
UFO be grifters. Ten to a penny down the years. Books, documentaries, dvds. There is not much difference between likes, clicks, and views nowadays. And still not one scrap of verifiable evidence to present to the public despite billions of HD camara phones worldwide.
If you look on the Wikipedia page "Malaysia Airlines Flight 370", it states that Tony Abbott the former Prime Minister of Australia disclosed on a Sky News documentary "My very clear understanding, from the very top levels of the Malaysian government, is that from very, very early on, they thought it was murder-suicide by the pilot".
Apparently somebody recently changed the Wiki page, it will go back to complete mystery I assume as soon as someone has a chance to water it back down. I agree with Abbott, but suicide is not even in Malaysia's vocabulary, it is such a stigma. I wonder if Malaysia officials said it in quite those words. But yes I am hearing authorities there knew likely cause.
Like Abbott and most Australian politicians, Wiki’s been brain dead for many years now and under the control of the known gorilla sceptics group which is an organized group of editors who have tasked themselves with ‘correcting’ all the mistakes in their eyes. Ross’s page was edited down to ‘UFO investigator’ basically despite his decades of solid journalistic work.
He said as much in interviews also. To call it pilot suicide when the plane is still not accounted for is a bit much. The INMARSAT data wasnt even known when they called pilot suicide! They were lying to you!
..which helped to send everybody on a wild goose chase. They should be looking in the South China Sea, where MH 370 went down under duress, not the Indian Ocean.
As a crash investigator, the physical evidence tells the story and multiple pieces of physical evidence which show the same consistent damage build the sequence of events. Larry Vance explains the mystery best.
Every single person in aviation - outside of Malaysian Airlines and government - has said someone flew that plane down. And Malaysian unwillingness to find the plane in timely manner has been just perfect, fruitful ground for all sorts of theories. Mistakes were definitely made. Im with the families, they are entitled to answers and possibly reparations.
What.a coincidence. They won’t touch me or Targeted Justice either, and we are saying it like it is. We have absolute irrefutable evidence. It’s been extremely hard to get the truth out to the masses who think they live in LaLa Land.
Well I do not believe at all de Changy theory, but if the US had shoot down a civil plane in mid-fly for an obscure reason, one might think that they will surely cover up the act by falsifying their assessment of the Capitain home flight simulator. An then inventing a pseudo route to the south of the ocean, after all it is documented that the flight simulator was recover by the FBI in the captain house (it is actually one of the argument of conspirationists on the MH370 case, they find it weird that the plane simulator was seized by the FBI on foreign soil and that no one had access to it since then, hence no one as the mean to check the veracity of what was said by the FBI on the simulator).
The real story behind that, is that MS Flight Simulator leaves some kind of raw data temp files on the HD. They are not tagged for time and date. Amongst other data those temp files from his PC contained thousands of geographic data points. Not linked to each other, just points. From all of his sessions using the the program. So if someone sifted out certain points and linked them up in a particular order, you could try to make the case that he flew a "practice route," but in actuality in those files there is nothing to link those points.
@@PRH123your comment is very interesting, but you haven't cited a source. With all due respect, without a source the information you give could be a work of fiction. Please provide a source.
@@bookie5667 well, I didn’t know I was writing a term paper, u tube comments don’t support footnotes, and I have better things to do than fantasize things here :( right here on u tube in videos on this incident you can find this info…
One thing that seems to be missing is reference to the major US surveillance bases at North West Cape and Diego Garcia. I recall some years ago hearing a radio program mention that these bases "could pick up a seagull passing wind" anywhere in the Indian Ocean. It seems a stretch to believe that a large aircraft could fly between these bases that are critical parts of the US military network without being noticed - and being tracked all the way.
Florence is right about one thing, whatever happened to that aircraft. The Americans know exactly what it did, where it did it and where it was last detected. Not only do they have radars they have a system called SBIRS which monitors the entire surface of the earth from orbit for the heat signatures of rocket launches (ICBM's). If SBIRS can do that its also monitoring the exhaust emissions of every jet engine in our atmosphere. It saw MH370 in the Southern Indian ocean that night but the Americans won't release any data. They had AWACS operating in the area and sophisticated ship based radars on their guided missile destroyers in the straight of Malacca. This can only lead me to the conclusion that they were involved in making the plane disappear.
Agreed. It’s easy to imagine anything’s possible when you don’t have basic mechanical or scientific sympathy. On the other hand, murdering an entire plane load of people for a secret or personal issue is hard to fathom.
She is also saying (around 55/56 mins in) that there is no chance that the flaperon that was washed ashore could have been from MH370 because it would have travelled too far through the southern indian ocean, but yet does not (and presumably cannot) explain how the serial number of that parts actually matches those belonging to the plane. Oddly, Ross didn't pick up on it and ask her how she explains it. Once I heard her dismissing that she lost all credibility.
The other reason why the "set down" theory is the most likely is because why would someone go to the effort of flying all the way out into the middle of the Indian ocean, just to nose down and hit the water at hundreds of km's an hour, when they could have had the same end result in the Gulf of Thailand? Taking the plane to a remote location with no one around and minimal chance of rescue makes more sense if you plan on making the aircraft essentially disappear without leaving a trace.
Yes, it would make sense if a pilot planned this. If you watched the whole video then you would have logged the three reasons the Flapperon was not genuine...And it is really the only physical evidence that the plane was ditched in the Indian Ocean. On the other hand, Florence’s book lists a good number of reasons as to why and when the poor plane was “forced down” off Vietnam.
I agree with the main naprater. I think het slawedrywer down to a 0 speel on surface of ococean. Swallowed an overdose imo, because all on. Boardwalk were already deceased.
I’m a sailor. I have seen barnacles grow in a matter of a month or so. The process starts very quickly, which is why every boat owner either pays for monthly “bottom cleaning” or does it him or herself (this is unlikely because bottom painting only costs $70 for my 32 foot Catalina 320 and even though I am a scuba diver it would be such a pain to do it myself). My point is that it was obvious the moment I saw those pieces of the plane…no appreciable growth from exposure to sea water!
@@PhilTParker You're basing that off of a portion of a hull that is permanently submerged in seawater though. These pieces are small and would turn constantly in waves with each side being exposed to the sun. It also depends on where in the world you're located, because bottom growth is also far greater in the tropics than it is in the subtropics. Also, all pieces that have been recovered have come from beaches. There's no indication as to how long they were on the beach before being discovered, or even how long they might have possibly turned in shallow water before finally washing up. Any growth that could have appeared could have easily been ground off.
The channel Mentour Pilot and Green Dot Aviation both have recent videos (past week or so, and a few months ago) videos using the most up to date information and especially the Mentour Pilot one (if you only have time for one) is worth watching for an explanation of why it is very likely that the actual path the plane took can be logically reasoned out from the evidence.
Both of the 2 new proposed sites in the Mentour Pilot video are not the first sites that the people who are making the proposals have presented. Both proposed sites are hundreds of miles from their original proposals which they both now consider obsolete. However, Petter from Mentour Pilot did introduce an interpretation that I believe is important. We know Zaharie was doing the radio from take-off until the last transmission, and Hamid was at the controls for take-off but until when. Petter said Zaharie's last few radio messages indicated he was busy doing something else while talking. Bearing in mind the time between the last radio transmission and the aircraft deviating from its planned route was just over a minute was Zaharie at the controls or was he preparing to go into the cabin?
Ross asks relevant questions. I have seen Larry Vance present his evidence elsewhere and I believe he is on the right path. Glad to hear his views presented again.
Ross Coulthart, another another adopted Aussie like me, loved watching him on Four corners and 60 minutes. Thank you Ross, keep up the good work, we need it.
There must be surveillance data on the crash but, in order to protect sources and methods, the public will never know about it. Imagine the press release " We can confirm the plane impacted the ocean but we can't tell you how we know "
I'm sorry but, Ms Florence de Changy is taking her own dream as reality. A conspiration of such a kind is insane, impossible to realize without being caught. At the same time, there are very strong evidences pointing to the pilot responability, criminality and culpability. 😡
Florence does not convince me either. I mean, she speaks to the pilot's family and childhood friends and they say he was a good person, and so she is convinced he cannot have done such an insane act. Speaking to family about character of one of their own is bad research. Nevertheless, if he was a good man why was he making lewd, creepy comments to 2 young female models online? He's a married man with kids their age? Doesn't look right to me. And why was this " hijacked" plane following the airspaces so accurately so as to avoid detection and then land in the middle of the Indian ocean? This is bizarre! And her explanation of US involvement and the Chinese govt make no sense whatsoever. The pilot's flight simulator is the smoking gun.
Well that certainly your opinion, fact however is in the days on & around the incident there was a lot of unusual conduct , confusing & conflicting information . Let’s no forget the modern day Indiana Jones who found the flapperon in 15 minutes & had a bus load of English speaking journalists in the middle of nowhere within 2 hours. Seriously.
How about filing a FOIA request with the US government on flight MH370 intelligence and seeing how redacted the documents are? I wonder if this has already been done and by whom...
@tonygriffith2164 An FOIA request was made by Australian researcher Paul Smithson. OADR request was granted and an annotated image of possible wreckage from flight MH370 was released. No information is redacted on this image, to include the classification, official authority and analyst. This image can be viewed in the Australian Transportation Agency’s report on missing flight MH370 and also on the Quora website. There is important information on this image that has been overlooked, even by the Independent Research Group.
you can check out muckrock, archives etc: NTSB: MH370 "- Any and all the records mentioning “mh370” or “malaysian 370” or “flight 370” relative to the period from March 6, 2014 to March 9, 2014" "The request has been rejected, with the agency stating that the information or document(s) requested are exempt from disclosure."
Another engaging and well thought out piece on the facts and not the click bait just real questions in search of critical analysis of the event. I am so looking forward to many more videos from you.
Reality check has become the most watched Newsnation segment by a long mile. Perhaps its one half subject matter combined with outstanding investigate journalism. Please newsnation lets give Ross Coulthard a bigger platform and voice on the Network.
I remember them saying they found evidence on the pilots home computer in his home of him practicing this same route he took to the middle of the Indian Ocean. The Malaysian government and airline of course don’t want to admit their pilot could have been mentally unstable and still flying. How many murder suicides have we experienced when everybody that knew the person says it was a complete shock and never thought that the person was capable of doing such a thing.
It's even worse than that. The story we were told was that the hard drive had been erased - and it was only after forensic examination & data recovery that they found the flight path matched. If true, this is a HUGE flag.
There is always a track history on the pilot’s computer that has a trail of searches that would indicate all the mindset he might of had but haven’t heard anything about the searches he might have performed to show a predisposition to suicidal tendencies, so blaming a pilot without those factors places suspicion on the deniers of other factors! More should be looked into, instead of finger pointing at the heat of tragedy and mourners need answers! Continual condolences to those families, and S**t to doubters until the facts are confirmed!
Yrs it seems quite clear based on the pilot's home simulator, that he was trying to pull off a concealed suicide. Almost succeeded but not quite. Not sure why he felt he needed to practice flying out to the middle of nowhere 🤔 everybody makes mistakes when trying to conceal actions . Especially with today's forensics. -->Delete is never deleted!
got into ross through his ufo coverage,now a fan and watch everything he does,seriously good journalist,intelligent,incisive questioning and analysis,top banana
it's crap. completely ignores. all witnesses, the joint military exercises, including the US, ignored the dodgy lithium battery cargo, ignored the 20 freescale employees, ignored Philip Wood's text and blank photo that gave co-ordinates of Diego Garcia. it was taken by the US. they knew where it was they have SIBRS system, fully global integrated satellite system. l think this was a very sloppy documentary and probably meant to muddy the waters rather then try to get to the bottom of it. crashed planes, even ones attempting a landing at sea break up. no debris field. that's the crunch. they found no debris till years later. and in Madagascar! 3,000 miles from where they were looking. not even conclusive and no more than 5% anyway if it was proved to be from MH370. As ever, e've been lied to and this doc doesn't even challenge the red herrings.
I find it curious that one piece of key evidence was not mentioned. In fact it was a piece of evidence that got very little attention in the media, but it convinced me very early on that it was suicide by pilot. As the plane turned off course to the west and before turning south, the plane climbed to about the maximum height it could fly. Somewhere around 15 kilometer. That is when the pilot was killing the passengers. If you are going to ditch the plane, you don't want panicked passengers beating down the door. So how do you kill them fast and efficiently? Release the air pressure inside the plane. The passengers will get oxygen masks, but those only work for a short time. But at 10 kilometer, some passengers might survive the lack of oxygen. At 15 kilometer everybody is going to die pretty fast. Once the pilot, who has a far larger supply of oxygen, felt confident everyone else was dead, he lowered the plane again.
Yeah I watched that documentary too. Lol But thanks for the blow by blow description of what was said in another documentary recently released. Well done.
Ross… I absolutely LOVE that you have a podcast now! I look for a video from you, every day… and I realize it takes a lot to do this every day, but would it be possible to do say, instead of 1 hour videos - maybe 30 or 40 minute ones,, a few times a week?? Now that the subject has finally been more respected and legitimized, our hunger and expectations on this subject Is really rolling down the hill now! The interest and excitement is becoming extremely prevalent in this community.. and it seems the numbers in our community are expanding daily!! It's great anytime Jeremy or George- or anyone who's fighting, from the Congress or senate, is interviewed, but I wish you would contact Dr. Greer as well… Everybody has their favorites, but I think we should all be open minded, and welcome information gathered from all of the top known people who have Dedicated their lives to this UFO/UAP subject, and have been researching for many many years, and had extremely interesting experiences themselves! Thanks again for your hard work, your knowledgeable opinions and your dedication! 🥰
One thing people from the west often don’t realise: the ocean is BIG. During the Cold War top military satellites and radar and jets could often not locate an AIRCRAFT carrier in the ocean. A carrier many many times larger than a jet and also with very precisely known earlier previous location.
Eh? What a nonsensical comment, why would the west not often realise the ocean is big 😂 I know for a fact everyone knows exactly how big the ocean is regardless if the live in the West or under a rock 🙄
GPT 4 Answer: The ability for pilots to turn off transponders in aircraft is a feature rooted in both historical and practical reasons. Transponders are electronic devices that broadcast an aircraft's location, altitude, and identification code to air traffic control (ATC) and other nearby aircraft, significantly enhancing safety and efficiency in airspace management. However, the capability to disable these devices can seem counterintuitive at first, especially considering their critical role in aviation safety. The reasons behind this capability include: 1. **Safety and Emergency Procedures**: In the event of certain emergencies or electrical problems, pilots may need to manage the aircraft's electrical load by shutting down non-essential systems to preserve power for critical flight controls and systems. The option to turn off the transponder allows pilots to prioritize systems essential for the immediate safety of the flight. 2. **Maintenance and Testing**: Aircraft undergo regular maintenance and testing, during which transponders and other electronic systems are inspected, tested, and serviced. The ability to turn these systems off is necessary for technicians to perform maintenance safely without sending erroneous or misleading signals to air traffic control or other aircraft. 3. **Prevention of Interference**: On the ground, particularly at airports with many aircraft operating closely together, transponders can create signal interference, leading to clutter on ATC radar screens. Pilots may turn off their transponders to reduce this clutter, especially when the aircraft is parked or taxiing on the ground. ATC may also instruct pilots to turn off or adjust transponder settings to manage radar display issues. 4. **Historical Design Considerations**: When transponders were first introduced, the technological and operational environment was different. The designs included manual controls for various functions, including the ability to turn the device off. Over time, while technological advancements have been made, some operational practices and cockpit designs have retained the capability for manual override or shutdown by the crew. Despite these reasons, the capability to disable transponders has raised concerns, especially following incidents where aircraft became difficult to track or went missing. In response, there have been discussions within the aviation industry and regulatory bodies about possible technological and procedural changes to ensure that aircraft can be tracked continuously, even if a transponder is disabled or fails. This includes the development of new systems like ADS-B (Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast), which offers some improvements over traditional radar and transponder-based systems, though it also can be turned off for similar reasons.
@@Moriarte1982 Thank you for posting this information. It is the basis around which the recommendations arising from the analysis of this event must follow if we are to learn.
transponders need a ground radar sweep to activate their return data and codes, yes they can be switched off. The reasons are that no one ever thinks of making locator beacons in the tail linked to GPS fully independent of ANY action, plane goes down, locator beacon triggers (EPIRB), floats off etc, satellite (ARGOS/NOAA etc) gets the data Read about it on the net. relying on so-called black box crap technology when your Apple phone can record MORE data (including technical data) for longer than any black box, is a bit like having a 1920's 78 rpm disc player plugged into your home theatre surround sound cinema system, as the only source...
The solution is simple, but expensive. Mandatory GPS in all planes continuously transmitting to satellite. The technology is old by now, some airlines have it through paid services, such as Air France, thats why they had all kinds of info about 447, coz the airplane system was continuously sending data via satellite, much more than just position. But as usual, its money, that talks. Having it fitting in all commercial aircraft (for starters) would be timeconsuming and hence very expensive. Imo, they couldve at least made it mandatory on new aircraft, but so far, nope, nothing.
Thank you very much for the the insight and also the person that is interviewed the expert for putting the time in that a lot of other people that should have did not
For me Vance’s scenario is more plausible than what this lady is saying. Almost a week was lost searching for debris between Malaysia and Vietnam. Such a big plane would have scattered a large amount of debris in the sea if it had been shot down and it would have been next to impossible to hide them all even for the U.S. A principled pilot would have landed the plane as ordered than be shot down and have 239 people killed including himself. And I don't understand why the Chinese would have been in cahoots with the Americans. This is simply ludicrous. In France there are always people who blame the Americans for anything that happens in the world.
China usually hides any failed attempt from public, even failed rocket launchs. So it's not far fetched for them to hide the fact that Americans caused a plane to disappear bc they tried to acquire technology
I did not understood that she would be saying the plane was shot down. However, it could have been interception operation with the controlled ditch on the ocean level with the US army recovery team nearby to collect bodies, cargo, debris. As controlled ditch theory explained it's allowing limited area of displacement for the plane's debris. There is no way US NSA/NRO satellites can identify AA rocket shot to Poland from Ukraine but not able to tell where the 777 went.
Let's look at the plane, not being shot down, but vapourised from the Cargo bay internally. Dunno how that scenario plays out in quantum physics and the maths. The Cargo Manifesto was sloppy, we know that. Any way possible with this fateful flight
My comment was removed or something. I said that Chinese government has a habit of hiding their failures like failed rocket launchs. So it's no surprise that a failed attempt at aquirring technology would be no talked about even if it means keeping shut about US involvement in the loss of civilians
Yes. She tries to explain away the strategic manually switching off the transponder, the advanced flying and sophisticated turns at the waypoints and the border skirting to evade military radar due to electrical failure and hypothermia. Her thesis is completely unreliable and not based on an aviation background but just to make a buck off of the tragedy.
I'm still not comfortable with people making 'declarations' based on assumptions. We do not know with certainty that the pilot did do what he is being accused of. Accusations without solid evidence or witness accounts is dangerous. Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.
So... In the same year, with the same Airline, with the same aircraft type (777-200), both complete hull losses, with zero survivors, statistically near impossible. But yes. Without judiciary sentencing let's DECLARE THE PILOT OF MH17 A MASS MURDERER... Nah... that's wrong. And shame on you for condemning someone without 100% certainty.
Not a legal case, it is aviation safety and the only apparent answer is that a pilot took advantage of the cockpit freedom. The reinforced cockpit doors answers the who question pretty much. I wish we could say some unknown perp.
I was obsessed with plane crashes before this incident. I still remember the morning I woke up and read about MH370. I thought to myself, "Crap, this is going to be a long drawn out case I am going to be obsessed with." I figured it would be many months or a few years. I never imagined we would be this far out and still not know.
Woulda been found so much earlier but Malaysia Government doesn’t want MH370 to be found because not only it would cost them a lot but they would then also have to compensate the families who lost their member on that plane
You may not know what happened, but I do. The evidence is overwhelming that the pilot planned out a murder suicide of immense proportions. Just because we don’t have the actual aircraft, that doesn’t matter at all. The evidence is overwhelming and indisputable.
Yes ways believe the first thing that the evening "News" tells us Then you "know"😅😅😅😅😅 Ehud Barack knew who dun 9/11 before nightfall e en though the FBI could never back his assertion. with "any hard evidence ".
I really appreciate Ross's efforts in investigating what might have happened to MH 370. Like Ross, I am mystified as to why a very accomplished pilot supposedly of sound mind would want to go to such lengths to kill his passengers and crew and then himself by supposedly ditching his plane in the southern Indian Ocean. We may think we know the "how" of what happened. But the question remains: "Why?" People don't do such things without overwhelming, compelling reasons.
If they find the flight data box we will know exactly what happened. (but yes, the motivation why the captain wanted to dissapear the plane will maybe never be answered)
Even if they find the plane, they won't get the answers they need to solve the mystery, as the captain turned off the two flight recorders before that data was recorded on them.
@@SpiralCasterPlaysPedalsFlight recorders turned off means no record of what happened after that time. I don't think it will ever be found, and if it is, it still won't prove what happened, as there would be no record after ten years in salt water, even if FRs weren't turned off. Let it rest. There is nothing to be gained. Searchers will find no answers, only more questions for the conspiracy theory posters.
I can't believe that you have interviewed this woman who has absolutely nothing to do with aviation and is formulating her own story of what happened to MH370. She is truly out of this world😂
Thanks mate..! Your Journalism, and integrity is very much appreciated in this Aviation disaster. Let's ALL follow the data and solve this case. Cheers.
As a pilot and aeronautical engineer, I find Changy”s understanding of the technicalities extremely poor, as opposed to Vance’s clear and reasonable deductions. The question is why one of the pilots diverted the aircraft. My only support for Changy’s idea is if someone had a lean o one of the pilots, like divulging a sinister secret about one of them.
Vance is an old Canadian Transportation investigator. As a 5 Eyes Canadian former Government employee, of course he is Not impartial, and would toe the shameful US Military Cover-up line.
@FMDD168 Other pilots and those experienced in this field(some not American, Canadian, etc)also agree that the plane crashed due to the pilot's actions. Any cover up was probably from Malaysian authorities.
Hi Ross, for years I havebeen admiring your work. Congrats ! MH-370 is a different animal and as I am writing this comment I have not yet seen your presentation. As an ex pilot, investigator and air force officer I also closely followed MH-370. For the last 7 months I closely watched Ashton Forbes and his interviews with very reputable academics and even ingeneers who are working on black budgets. Having seen the dark side of the CIA, nothing would surprise me, especially with thos chip engeneers on board ..... Happy Easter to you and your family.
Sorry, she did not convince me, only that she hasnt the foggiest. She doesnt know what happened to the plane, how it was 'disappeared' . Shes 'narrowed ' it down to the Chinese, Americans or failing that the Russians.- wow! great investigative work. SHe asks the Captains family for his profile- ah der.. as if they would not say anything favourable.
Ive seen countless YT videos on MH370, many of which are badly put together cut n paste efforts. But this is pure clsss. Two points of view, presented well. Thank you Ross and your team.
I’m an airline captain for a major European airline. I’ve read Larry Vance’s book and I agree completely with his conclusions. That was a well planned and deliberate act from the Captain, period. And for that reason I don’t think at all we will ever see a new search anyhow sponsored by Malaysian Government
Look, I am not making assertions about what happened to the flight nor about the pilot nor about the veracity of Mr. Vance’s theory, but my god are Florence de Changy’s claims illogical. Using military assets to block mayday transmissions? Laser weapons to shoot down the plane? Cooperation from the Chinese government ? I’m not sure which is most implausible (probably the latter). She talked to the pilot’s childhood friends and his family and concluded his intentions and the fate of the aircraft? Uhhhh…… ok. Was it confirmed that the “tango code” was even given ? I have not seen that officially confirmed. You only see it speculated on reddit and in Florence de Changy’s assertions. Possibly the Malaysian press reported and retracted it but that is it. Also there is a flaw in logic to say that if the code was given, it must mean the pilot and co-pilot were not responsible. Let’s assume the code was relayed. We don’t have any evidence to suggest who sent the code. If the co-pilot signaled the code, we can’t assume the pilot was innocent. Likewise if the pilot signaled, we can’t assume the co-pilot was innocent. If neither of them signaled the code we can’t assume either is innocent. In actuality, we can’t even assume that the person who signaled was innocent.
@@matthiasmeyer9747 i am listening to her interview for the third time thinking "whaaaaaaat?" she is making no sense. why was she even interviewed. she brings nothing to the table.
A controlled landing on the sea would have meant that anyone alive on the plane would have drowned and knowingly faced that terror before doing so. Except the pilot who probably shot himself. So horrible to think about.
Thanks Ross for being a real & honest reporter & not a robot like most today. Your work to get to the truth is amazing & we need so much more of. I pray there is a new search for the families. They have to find this plane no excuses.
Florence de Changy's ideas require so much belief in impossible things I'm surprised she hasn't included unicorns and various kinds of magic in it. Her laughter at the drifting of the debris so far shows a total lack of knowledge of ocean currents and drift rates, as it is very reasonable indeed - in fact, oceanographers were consulted when it was found, and they confirmed the distance over that time agreed with the approximate area of the aircraft disappearing by backtracking known ocean currents. in addition, you can look into the data collected by radio amateurs, who have developed a method of tracking based on the disturbance of radio traffic caused by large metallic objects, and which places the wreckage very close to the search area, having done a couple of slow figure eight turns prior to ditching - just as you would expect of a pilot making sure there was no shipping anywhere within sight, while checking wind drift and wave direction. Every piece of known evidence points to that location - the only thing unknown is why. Mentour pilot did a good and scientific analysis on his channel a short while ago.
Really!! Can she not explore & investigate other possibilities?? For instance what if the captain & copilot didn’t do it?? Is there any real solid proof he did ? Occams Razor favours it, but 2 plus 2 isn’t always four, what if something else did do something to the plane. How the hell do you explain all the diabolical misdirection that has occurred in the during & after the event. Microphones of the WA coast pointed mathematically to a likely crash site hundred of miles north from the arc. Locals in the Maldives tell of a low flying big jet that morning? If the flapper on is that of mh370 what happened to it mfg plate ? Why does it look like it was machined off?? How convenient it is Indiana Jones discovered it after just 15 minutes & beggars belief there was a truck load of English speaking journalists in the middle of nowhere in less than 2 hours for f### sake. Anyone who lost anyone or is even vaguely possessing some critical thinking would be insulted by what officials of the airline & governments have put forward!!!!
Look back over the years… how many conspiracy theories have been proven to be true? In this day and age and our so called Governments around the world, I won’t rule anything out. Except unicorns. Magic however is another story…
It would take a 60 metre long plane crashing into incompressible water at 150 metres per second (560km/h) less than 0.4 of a second to completely disappear into millions of pieces. This did not happen.
if hollow plane made out of lightweight metal meets sea level in full free fall speed, it would take 0.04 second to disassemble wing into debris in size of coins all over the place.... not complete wings, tails and so on. that's the math/physics he is referring to in regard to debris found on Reunion.
I've always believed someone saw where It went. The alternative view is that potentially enemy aircraft can fly about without ever being detected.. a very scary thought.
I'm a Senior Aircraft Mechanic. Removed and Reinstalled a 777 Flaperon 3 weeks ago. Takes 4 people to lift one out of the crate. At the very least 2 to move it from the horizontal to vertical position to attach the lifting sling prior to the hoist. Maybe, if it was undamaged and still water tight it could float? Definitely not one that was ripped off from a crash. It would sink in the ocean. Show me the pic of the recovered flaperon.
Bravo to you sir for being open to other ideas and not talking down to others who have opposing/different opinions. Very refreshing to hear. It’s such a complex topic and no one has enough evidence to say positively what took place. Please keep more episodes of this nature coming and you have another viewer for life. Wishing everyone the best. Cheers!
Navy exercises in the region at the time of the crash. Military radar conveniently picking up the plane's last known position far away from the last civil radar contact, rescue vessels again directed to the Gulf of Thailand or the Andaman Sea and not to the South China sea etc. Everything smells like a cover-up!
I believe the pilot, like many of us, had a cyber life fostered by his continual use of his flight simulator. If you consider that his job was flying, why would he come home and do more flying on his computer? Why would he then erase all of the simulator history, detailing his flight scenarios. I used to have Microsoft Simulator and fly around Chicago on it. Eventually, I got bored and would buzz the beaches or fly through the high rises. I believe the pilot concocted this elaborate flight line to try to beat the simulator. He made a game out of it. He tried to fly, undetected, and ditch far away from every authority to prove his intellect. As sad as this is, it's a compelling theory, at least as plausible as these that Ross has presented. This man was nearing the end of his career, his marriage was failing, he had nothing to show for years of work. I believe that he lashed out and decided to go out with a bang.
All pilots I ever met loves flying. They cant get enough of it. They like the simulator because that´s where you can do flying instead of sitting looking at the auto pilot for hours and hours. Give me one reason why a man like captain Shah would ever leave his children!?
He did it, because he was having a mid-life crisis that left him in turmoil. His wife was also leaving him. Mass murders are generally committed by middle-aged men who are responding to a severe and acute stressor.
Did the Captain not practice his route on his home simulator and turn and turn off everything at the Igari waypoint turning west and killing the rest of the people with the lack of oxygen. Green Dot channel explained this.
Vance theory: Pilot really wanted to ditch the airplane remotely so it can't be found and commit suicide in the process. Okay, so, motive? What pilot would ever want to do this?
@@hatsofftoroyharper2 Do you remember the German Wings accident where the pilot deliberately flew into a mountain. He had history of depression but it appears Capt Zahari had no reason to kill himself. The air accident guy has made his mind up already that it was Capt Zahari but without the black boxes I don't know how he can say that this is exactly what happened. I didn't like his attitude if I'm honest.
@PeterStone-ch9dw no I don't remember that incident, I'll look that up. I agree completely, it seems really dirty to put that out there like that with such little actual evidence to back it up. Seems like an easy answer for everyone to blame the captain. Idk.
Also, if you safely and non-destructively ditch in the ocean all the passengers and crew are presumably ALIVE and won't just stay in their seats and passively drown like compliant co-conspirators, they will exit the plane, likely with flotation devices from the plane and some of their baggage, all of which would be more debris that could be found washed up or spotted from the air at the ditch site.
Every component of that flaperon will have a part number and batch number etched into it, these numbers will tell you which aircraft they were fitted to, when and where they were made.
Although this flaperon had a part number compatible with MH370, the ident plate was missing, rivets dislodged. Also how did the large bolts holding it to the airframe become undone ?
I suggest viewing the Mentour Pilot's episode regarding this flight. As a very experienced airline pilot, he provides information and perspective you will not find elsewhere.
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10 years later this story still breaks my heart.
Same here.
The families should be kept in our hearts and prayers as they have been through a never-ending nightmare. 🙏🙏🙏
What else?
Indeed, the same here
Same 😔
As a 75 year old real American man, I know my government has lied to me since Vietnam war.
I'm a 68 y/o woman and, my dear, our government has been lying to us long before Vietnam. Even before J.P.Morgan, Rockefellers, Hearst and others ran the papers, the banks and the railroads.
Maybe but the lie was not supported by the their worst enemies at that time the Russians, whereas if there is a cover up regarding the MH370 it needs to be held up but the Chinese and the American government which does not make the beginning of a sense...
Gulf of Tonkin
And before too.
It's courageous of you to say. Most people are gullible and they prefer a comforting lie rather than having to handle the truth.
One of the best reporters in a world filled with talking heads who say nothing while running their mouths on the news. Thank you, Ross, for another great report.
What parallel universe did you watch this in? This reporter/interviewer just ran his mouth during the whole video. Many of his sentences were super long and unnecessary.
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ROSS is a Mockingbird
Hi Ross!
My name is Antonio i am a Portuguese nacional ex Navy (Portguese Marines) and want to congratulate you for your exelent work!
I have been a folower of your work and i consider you one of the best investigative journalist.
I have heard hundreds of theories about every motive you can think of , in rectrospect is my opinion that the fact you thought of folowing this one is briliant.
And also your guest Larry Vance ( wich by the way , alongside Greg Feith from the NTSB are two of the best crash investigators in the world),it my hope that all of you can educate the public a bit more about this tragic event.
Thank you for your exelent work.
All the best to you (Mate).
Im a small country called ESwatini former Swaziland ive been following this disappearance of MH370 and always praying for speedy recovering of the people God knows where are they and i know they will be found may our heavenly Father give strength to the searchers
giving ross a show was a BRILLIANT idea,...and it isn't even just weekly!! thank you NN and ross
You gotta check Ashton Forbes if you want a good explanation here around this case
@@zarvinny oh i have watched him...he is a fraud lol
No he doesn't, his comment on Ross was correct. Or she.
NEWSNATION TEAM: I really want Ross’ segments to do great, which means changing the thumbnail every time or you are going to get people who are scrolling, see the standard base image of the show, think they have seen it and keep scrolling.
You will lose views to this I promise. This needs changing for every episode!
Good luck Ross, appreciate the hard work mate!
There has to be a consistency in appereance, so people know it is the show, but different episodes need to be distinguishable ofc.
Just as long as he doesn't do the youtuber thing and put his face making a shocked facial expression in the thumbnail.
Ross is the best! I click on any and everything that even mentions him!
You have a valid point!!
UFO be grifters.
Ten to a penny down the years. Books, documentaries, dvds.
There is not much difference between likes, clicks, and views nowadays.
And still not one scrap of verifiable evidence to present to the public despite billions of HD camara phones worldwide.
I can't get enough of Reality Check!! Thanks Ross & NN!!
If you look on the Wikipedia page "Malaysia Airlines Flight 370", it states that Tony Abbott the former Prime Minister of Australia disclosed on a Sky News documentary "My very clear understanding, from the very top levels of the Malaysian government, is that from very, very early on, they thought it was murder-suicide by the pilot".
Apparently somebody recently changed the Wiki page, it will go back to complete mystery I assume as soon as someone has a chance to water it back down. I agree with Abbott, but suicide is not even in Malaysia's vocabulary, it is such a stigma. I wonder if Malaysia officials said it in quite those words. But yes I am hearing authorities there knew likely cause.
Like Abbott and most Australian politicians, Wiki’s been brain dead for many years now and under the control of the known gorilla sceptics group which is an organized group of editors who have tasked themselves with ‘correcting’ all the mistakes in their eyes. Ross’s page was edited down to ‘UFO investigator’ basically despite his decades of solid journalistic work.
He said as much in interviews also. To call it pilot suicide when the plane is still not accounted for is a bit much. The INMARSAT data wasnt even known when they called pilot suicide! They were lying to you!
@@EsromFF Oooh, those pesky, nefarious ''they'' again. Someone out there should do something about those ''they''. 😀
..which helped to send everybody on a wild goose chase. They should be looking in the South China Sea, where MH 370 went down under duress, not the Indian Ocean.
As a crash investigator, the physical evidence tells the story and multiple pieces of physical evidence which show the same consistent damage build the sequence of events. Larry Vance explains the mystery best.
Ross brings a whole new level of investigative journalism. His open-minded approach is appreciated.
He’s never investigated the alien crash 💥 theory. Which is obviously true.
ROSS IS MOCKINGBIRD MEDIA
Every single person in aviation - outside of Malaysian Airlines and government - has said someone flew that plane down. And Malaysian unwillingness to find the plane in timely manner has been just perfect, fruitful ground for all sorts of theories. Mistakes were definitely made. Im with the families, they are entitled to answers and possibly reparations.
The Malaysian government does NOT want to be accountable financially for the actions of this pilot working for Malaysian Airlines!
Sounds like you have all the answers 🤔
Ross Coultharts reporting is truthful, professional, accurate and of excellent quality. Exactly why mainstream news won't touch him.
he puts the BBC, FOX and all other linear broadcasters to shame
What.a coincidence. They won’t touch me or Targeted Justice either, and we are saying it like it is. We have absolute irrefutable evidence. It’s been extremely hard to get the truth out to the masses who think they live in LaLa Land.
It was nailed. I mean, Nailed it!
Main stream media is not about truth.
Surely you are aware he is employed by 7news msm.
How does the French woman explain the captains home test flights that mirrored the planes diversion from the planned flight path??
Well I do not believe at all de Changy theory, but if the US had shoot down a civil plane in mid-fly for an obscure reason, one might think that they will surely cover up the act by falsifying their assessment of the Capitain home flight simulator. An then inventing a pseudo route to the south of the ocean, after all it is documented that the flight simulator was recover by the FBI in the captain house (it is actually one of the argument of conspirationists on the MH370 case, they find it weird that the plane simulator was seized by the FBI on foreign soil and that no one had access to it since then, hence no one as the mean to check the veracity of what was said by the FBI on the simulator).
You really believe everything you're told...
The real story behind that, is that MS Flight Simulator leaves some kind of raw data temp files on the HD. They are not tagged for time and date. Amongst other data those temp files from his PC contained thousands of geographic data points. Not linked to each other, just points. From all of his sessions using the the program. So if someone sifted out certain points and linked them up in a particular order, you could try to make the case that he flew a "practice route," but in actuality in those files there is nothing to link those points.
@@PRH123your comment is very interesting, but you haven't cited a source. With all due respect, without a source the information you give could be a work of fiction. Please provide a source.
@@bookie5667 well, I didn’t know I was writing a term paper, u tube comments don’t support footnotes, and I have better things to do than fantasize things here :(
right here on u tube in videos on this incident you can find this info…
Great work NN and Ross. Well done. Larry Vance is correct.
THIS is how a news channel and investigative interviews should be conducted.
Excellent show.
Never find it ,landed
I agree this man needs more exposure
@@Crosshatch1212 Ditched or just dove straight in.
@@watchgoose if you had seen the news broadcast that got taken down you’d be one off the few thousand that know .
Title is misleading, new search is NOT confirmed.
Thank you
Now I don't have to waste 2hrs of my time 😂😂
absolutely --- more piles of rubbish --- Najib knows !!!
Thanks mate. You just saved me from sitting through yet another painful video about MH370. Appreciated!
You saved time for me too. Thnx.
Ross Coulthart has always been a crap journo. He's a joke. He used to do all the puff pieces about Hollywood stars on 60 Minutes Australia.
He hasn't found Earhart's wreck. It is not confirmed. He just provides a sketchy sonar scan that many aviation experts have already cast doubt on.
Not very convincing.
If jets can just disappear flipping an off switch then why do we need stealth bombers
Military radar would have seen MH370. Question is why are they not adding information to the story of this plane’s loss.
They did, how do think they initially tracked it after transponder data was lost.
Malaysian military radar
Yep, we were waiting short answer, but blaa blaa blaa again.
Superb. Fantastic investigation with different theories - well done Ross.
Ashton Forbes did a fantastic update with Redacted
One thing that seems to be missing is reference to the major US surveillance bases at North West Cape and Diego Garcia. I recall some years ago hearing a radio program mention that these bases "could pick up a seagull passing wind" anywhere in the Indian Ocean. It seems a stretch to believe that a large aircraft could fly between these bases that are critical parts of the US military network without being noticed - and being tracked all the way.
your 100 percent correct! that’s where it landed
I’ve heard that some one very high up in IBM was able to relay a photograph back from the island Diego Garcia
Florence is right about one thing, whatever happened to that aircraft. The Americans know exactly what it did, where it did it and where it was last detected. Not only do they have radars they have a system called SBIRS which monitors the entire surface of the earth from orbit for the heat signatures of rocket launches (ICBM's). If SBIRS can do that its also monitoring the exhaust emissions of every jet engine in our atmosphere. It saw MH370 in the Southern Indian ocean that night but the Americans won't release any data.
They had AWACS operating in the area and sophisticated ship based radars on their guided missile destroyers in the straight of Malacca.
This can only lead me to the conclusion that they were involved in making the plane disappear.
As an Aircraft Engineer I cannot accept Florence's explanation.It does not make technical sense.
How so?
followingg,pls expound
Her technical sense is poor.
Agreed. It’s easy to imagine anything’s possible when you don’t have basic mechanical or scientific sympathy. On the other hand, murdering an entire plane load of people for a secret or personal issue is hard to fathom.
She is also saying (around 55/56 mins in) that there is no chance that the flaperon that was washed ashore could have been from MH370 because it would have travelled too far through the southern indian ocean, but yet does not (and presumably cannot) explain how the serial number of that parts actually matches those belonging to the plane. Oddly, Ross didn't pick up on it and ask her how she explains it. Once I heard her dismissing that she lost all credibility.
The other reason why the "set down" theory is the most likely is because why would someone go to the effort of flying all the way out into the middle of the Indian ocean, just to nose down and hit the water at hundreds of km's an hour, when they could have had the same end result in the Gulf of Thailand?
Taking the plane to a remote location with no one around and minimal chance of rescue makes more sense if you plan on making the aircraft essentially disappear without leaving a trace.
These parts were all planted. This is a massive op
Yes, it would make sense if a pilot planned this. If you watched the whole video then you would have logged the three reasons the Flapperon was not genuine...And it is really the only physical evidence that the plane was ditched in the Indian Ocean. On the other hand, Florence’s book lists a good number of reasons as to why and when the poor plane was “forced down” off Vietnam.
I agree with the main naprater. I think het slawedrywer down to a 0 speel on surface of ococean. Swallowed an overdose imo, because all on. Boardwalk were already deceased.
I’m a sailor. I have seen barnacles grow in a matter of a month or so. The process starts very quickly, which is why every boat owner either pays for monthly “bottom cleaning” or does it him or herself (this is unlikely because bottom painting only costs $70 for my 32 foot Catalina 320 and even though I am a scuba diver it would be such a pain to do it myself). My point is that it was obvious the moment I saw those pieces of the plane…no appreciable growth from exposure to sea water!
@@PhilTParker You're basing that off of a portion of a hull that is permanently submerged in seawater though. These pieces are small and would turn constantly in waves with each side being exposed to the sun. It also depends on where in the world you're located, because bottom growth is also far greater in the tropics than it is in the subtropics.
Also, all pieces that have been recovered have come from beaches. There's no indication as to how long they were on the beach before being discovered, or even how long they might have possibly turned in shallow water before finally washing up. Any growth that could have appeared could have easily been ground off.
The channel Mentour Pilot and Green Dot Aviation both have recent videos (past week or so, and a few months ago) videos using the most up to date information and especially the Mentour Pilot one (if you only have time for one) is worth watching for an explanation of why it is very likely that the actual path the plane took can be logically reasoned out from the evidence.
Both great channels
Both of the 2 new proposed sites in the Mentour Pilot video are not the first sites that the people who are making the proposals have presented. Both proposed sites are hundreds of miles from their original proposals which they both now consider obsolete.
However, Petter from Mentour Pilot did introduce an interpretation that I believe is important. We know Zaharie was doing the radio from take-off until the last transmission, and Hamid was at the controls for take-off but until when. Petter said Zaharie's last few radio messages indicated he was busy doing something else while talking. Bearing in mind the time between the last radio transmission and the aircraft deviating from its planned route was just over a minute was Zaharie at the controls or was he preparing to go into the cabin?
Mentour Pilot was better but both are good.
@@johnfinlay4864 I think he was in control and prepares his plan.
Good videos both. But still no motive and no plane.
As a former CFI/I, I never heard of a "code Tango" in an aviation sense as mentioned here by Florence de Changy.
What is the hijacking code in your company? Maybe Tango is for malaysian airline only, I don’t know
Hijack fits with the guy who tried to send a message with his iPhone. Coordinates got through I believe. Near Diego Garcia.
She's referring to MAS not your company.
Ross asks relevant questions. I have seen Larry Vance present his evidence elsewhere and I believe he is on the right path. Glad to hear his views presented again.
Great show, I'm looking forward to the next one.
Ross Coulthart, another another adopted Aussie like me, loved watching him on Four corners
and 60 minutes. Thank you Ross, keep up the good work, we need it.
Even if Ashton is wrong about the video, he is correct about the surveillance satellites. US gov or private aerospace knows what happened.
No, we don't. They will never say a word at how pathetic our tracking capabilities are
There must be surveillance data on the crash but, in order to protect sources and methods, the public will never know about it. Imagine the press release " We can confirm the plane impacted the ocean but we can't tell you how we know "
I actually think he’s absolutely right about the videos. Too much evidence adds up to ignore.
@@baby_UFOdude, they can read the newspaper from outer space. They know exactly what happens on this planet every hour of the day.
For the record, I made a comment here about surveillance, came back 5 minutes later, it’s gone.
Great interviews Ross!
I'm sorry but, Ms Florence de Changy is taking her own dream as reality. A conspiration of such a kind is insane, impossible to realize without being caught. At the same time, there are very strong evidences pointing to the pilot responability, criminality and culpability. 😡
Florence does not convince me either. I mean, she speaks to the pilot's family and childhood friends and they say he was a good person, and so she is convinced he cannot have done such an insane act. Speaking to family about character of one of their own is bad research. Nevertheless, if he was a good man why was he making lewd, creepy comments to 2 young female models online? He's a married man with kids their age? Doesn't look right to me. And why was this " hijacked" plane following the airspaces so accurately so as to avoid detection and then land in the middle of the Indian ocean? This is bizarre! And her explanation of US involvement and the Chinese govt make no sense whatsoever. The pilot's flight simulator is the smoking gun.
Impossible to realize without being caught? Humm. Ever heard of JFK??
@@SYNAPSom yup or 9/11?
The first interviewer makes the strongest case for the crash being the sole responsibility of the demented captain.
Well that certainly your opinion, fact however is in the days on & around the incident there was a lot of unusual conduct , confusing & conflicting information . Let’s no forget the modern day Indiana Jones who found the flapperon in 15 minutes & had a bus load of English speaking journalists in the middle of nowhere within 2 hours. Seriously.
How about filing a FOIA request with the US government on flight MH370 intelligence and seeing how redacted the documents are? I wonder if this has already been done and by whom...
@tonygriffith2164 An FOIA request was made by Australian researcher Paul Smithson. OADR request was granted and an annotated image of possible wreckage from flight MH370 was released. No information is redacted on this image, to include the classification, official authority and analyst. This image can be viewed in the Australian Transportation Agency’s report on missing flight MH370 and also on the Quora website. There is important information on this image that has been overlooked, even by the Independent Research Group.
you can check out muckrock, archives etc:
NTSB: MH370
"- Any and all the records mentioning “mh370” or “malaysian 370” or “flight 370” relative to the period from March 6, 2014 to March 9, 2014"
"The request has been rejected, with the agency stating that the information or document(s) requested are exempt from disclosure."
@@alans5799 Check the above references. The released image is there, I don’t have a link to it though, TH-cam might not allow it.
Researcher Ashton Forbes did this. refused all requests. not hiding anything at all!
Another engaging and well thought out piece on the facts and not the click bait just real questions in search of critical analysis of the event. I am so looking forward to many more videos from you.
Well done Ross, great show, very interesting 👏👏👏👏👏👏
This explanation makes perfect sense. Excellent interview, thanks
Reality check has become the most watched Newsnation segment by a long mile. Perhaps its one half subject matter combined with outstanding investigate journalism. Please newsnation lets give Ross Coulthard a bigger platform and voice on the Network.
Finally, there’s a news channel that supports quality investigative journalism that actually wants to pursue the truth!
I remember them saying they found evidence on the pilots home computer in his home of him practicing this same route he took to the middle of the Indian Ocean. The Malaysian government and airline of course don’t want to admit their pilot could have been mentally unstable and still flying. How many murder suicides have we experienced when everybody that knew the person says it was a complete shock and never thought that the person was capable of doing such a thing.
It's even worse than that. The story we were told was that the hard drive had been erased - and it was only after forensic examination & data recovery that they found the flight path matched.
If true, this is a HUGE flag.
To Diego Garcia to hit american base there, but was shot down by air defence. Rest is cover up.
Doubt Usa lets anyone search there.
There is always a track history on the pilot’s computer that has a trail of searches that would indicate all the mindset he might of had but haven’t heard anything about the searches he might have performed to show a predisposition to suicidal tendencies, so blaming a pilot without those factors places suspicion on the deniers of other factors!
More should be looked into, instead of finger pointing at the heat of tragedy and mourners need answers!
Continual condolences to those families, and S**t to doubters until the facts are confirmed!
Yrs it seems quite clear based on the pilot's home simulator, that he was trying to pull off a concealed suicide. Almost succeeded but not quite. Not sure why he felt he needed to practice flying out to the middle of nowhere 🤔 everybody makes mistakes when trying to conceal actions . Especially with today's forensics. -->Delete is never deleted!
The suicidals know how to put on a good show
Excellent interviews and show with Ross. The controlled landing makes so much more sense than the spiral fall.
got into ross through his ufo coverage,now a fan and watch everything he does,seriously good journalist,intelligent,incisive questioning and analysis,top banana
Excellent! As usual, from Ross.
Great interviews that offers different perspectives. Thank you!
it's crap. completely ignores. all witnesses, the joint military exercises, including the US, ignored the dodgy lithium battery cargo, ignored the 20 freescale employees, ignored Philip Wood's text and blank photo that gave co-ordinates of Diego Garcia. it was taken by the US. they knew where it was they have SIBRS system, fully global integrated satellite system. l think this was a very sloppy documentary and probably meant to muddy the waters rather then try to get to the bottom of it. crashed planes, even ones attempting a landing at sea break up. no debris field. that's the crunch. they found no debris till years later. and in Madagascar! 3,000 miles from where they were looking. not even conclusive and no more than 5% anyway if it was proved to be from MH370. As ever, e've been lied to and this doc doesn't even challenge the red herrings.
I find it curious that one piece of key evidence was not mentioned. In fact it was a piece of evidence that got very little attention in the media, but it convinced me very early on that it was suicide by pilot. As the plane turned off course to the west and before turning south, the plane climbed to about the maximum height it could fly. Somewhere around 15 kilometer. That is when the pilot was killing the passengers. If you are going to ditch the plane, you don't want panicked passengers beating down the door. So how do you kill them fast and efficiently? Release the air pressure inside the plane. The passengers will get oxygen masks, but those only work for a short time. But at 10 kilometer, some passengers might survive the lack of oxygen. At 15 kilometer everybody is going to die pretty fast. Once the pilot, who has a far larger supply of oxygen, felt confident everyone else was dead, he lowered the plane again.
Hypoxia- Yes, the pilot definetly depressurized the cabin.
There were not one but two pilots…..so, two of them carried out the plots?
@@MC37138 The theory I read about has the pilot sending the co-pilot out of the cockpit for some errand, such as coffee, and then locking him out.
Yeah I watched that documentary too. Lol But thanks for the blow by blow description of what was said in another documentary recently released. Well done.
That is sad
Great stuff Ross. Keep them coming
Ross… I absolutely LOVE that you have a podcast now! I look for a video from you, every day… and I realize it takes a lot to do this every day, but would it be possible to do say, instead of 1 hour videos - maybe 30 or 40 minute ones,, a few times a week??
Now that the subject has finally been more respected and legitimized, our hunger and expectations on this subject Is really rolling down the hill now! The interest and excitement is becoming extremely prevalent in this community.. and it seems the numbers in our community are expanding daily!!
It's great anytime Jeremy or George- or anyone who's fighting, from the Congress or senate, is interviewed, but I wish you would contact Dr. Greer as well… Everybody has their favorites, but I think we should all be open minded, and welcome information gathered from all of the top known people who have Dedicated their lives to this UFO/UAP subject, and have been researching for many many years, and had extremely interesting experiences themselves!
Thanks again for your hard work, your knowledgeable opinions and your dedication! 🥰
One thing people from the west often don’t realise: the ocean is BIG. During the Cold War top military satellites and radar and jets could often not locate an AIRCRAFT carrier in the ocean.
A carrier many many times larger than a jet and also with very precisely known earlier previous location.
Eh? What a nonsensical comment, why would the west not often realise the ocean is big 😂 I know for a fact everyone knows exactly how big the ocean is regardless if the live in the West or under a rock 🙄
People from the east know exactly how big that ocean is
Thank you Ross! I appreciate the work you do! When’s the next book?
"it's in my book" "well I explained it in my book" MAN I'M NOT READING YOUR BOOK, JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK HAPPENED
what is the reason why transponders are able to be turned off by pilots?
Good question
GPT 4 Answer:
The ability for pilots to turn off transponders in aircraft is a feature rooted in both historical and practical reasons. Transponders are electronic devices that broadcast an aircraft's location, altitude, and identification code to air traffic control (ATC) and other nearby aircraft, significantly enhancing safety and efficiency in airspace management. However, the capability to disable these devices can seem counterintuitive at first, especially considering their critical role in aviation safety. The reasons behind this capability include:
1. **Safety and Emergency Procedures**: In the event of certain emergencies or electrical problems, pilots may need to manage the aircraft's electrical load by shutting down non-essential systems to preserve power for critical flight controls and systems. The option to turn off the transponder allows pilots to prioritize systems essential for the immediate safety of the flight.
2. **Maintenance and Testing**: Aircraft undergo regular maintenance and testing, during which transponders and other electronic systems are inspected, tested, and serviced. The ability to turn these systems off is necessary for technicians to perform maintenance safely without sending erroneous or misleading signals to air traffic control or other aircraft.
3. **Prevention of Interference**: On the ground, particularly at airports with many aircraft operating closely together, transponders can create signal interference, leading to clutter on ATC radar screens. Pilots may turn off their transponders to reduce this clutter, especially when the aircraft is parked or taxiing on the ground. ATC may also instruct pilots to turn off or adjust transponder settings to manage radar display issues.
4. **Historical Design Considerations**: When transponders were first introduced, the technological and operational environment was different. The designs included manual controls for various functions, including the ability to turn the device off. Over time, while technological advancements have been made, some operational practices and cockpit designs have retained the capability for manual override or shutdown by the crew.
Despite these reasons, the capability to disable transponders has raised concerns, especially following incidents where aircraft became difficult to track or went missing. In response, there have been discussions within the aviation industry and regulatory bodies about possible technological and procedural changes to ensure that aircraft can be tracked continuously, even if a transponder is disabled or fails. This includes the development of new systems like ADS-B (Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast), which offers some improvements over traditional radar and transponder-based systems, though it also can be turned off for similar reasons.
@@Moriarte1982 Thank you for posting this information. It is the basis around which the recommendations arising from the analysis of this event must follow if we are to learn.
transponders need a ground radar sweep to activate their return data and codes, yes they can be switched off. The reasons are that no one ever thinks of making locator beacons in the tail linked to GPS fully independent of ANY action, plane goes down, locator beacon triggers (EPIRB), floats off etc, satellite (ARGOS/NOAA etc) gets the data Read about it on the net. relying on so-called black box crap technology when your Apple phone can record MORE data (including technical data) for longer than any black box, is a bit like having a 1920's 78 rpm disc player plugged into your home theatre surround sound cinema system, as the only source...
The solution is simple, but expensive. Mandatory GPS in all planes continuously transmitting to satellite. The technology is old by now, some airlines have it through paid services, such as Air France, thats why they had all kinds of info about 447, coz the airplane system was continuously sending data via satellite, much more than just position.
But as usual, its money, that talks. Having it fitting in all commercial aircraft (for starters) would be timeconsuming and hence very expensive. Imo, they couldve at least made it mandatory on new aircraft, but so far, nope, nothing.
Thank you very much for the the insight and also the person that is interviewed the expert for putting the time in that a lot of other people that should have did not
Appreciate you being open minded, Ross! In that spirit - you should interview Jeff Wise on his theory. He makes a lot of good points as well
For me Vance’s scenario is more plausible than what this lady is saying. Almost a week was lost searching for debris between Malaysia and Vietnam. Such a big plane would have scattered a large amount of debris in the sea if it had been shot down and it would have been next to impossible to hide them all even for the U.S. A principled pilot would have landed the plane as ordered than be shot down and have 239 people killed including himself. And I don't understand why the Chinese would have been in cahoots with the Americans. This is simply ludicrous. In France there are always people who blame the Americans for anything that happens in the world.
China usually hides any failed attempt from public, even failed rocket launchs.
So it's not far fetched for them to hide the fact that Americans caused a plane to disappear bc they tried to acquire technology
I did not understood that she would be saying the plane was shot down. However, it could have been interception operation with the controlled ditch on the ocean level with the US army recovery team nearby to collect bodies, cargo, debris. As controlled ditch theory explained it's allowing limited area of displacement for the plane's debris. There is no way US NSA/NRO satellites can identify AA rocket shot to Poland from Ukraine but not able to tell where the 777 went.
Let's look at the plane, not being shot down, but vapourised from the Cargo bay internally. Dunno how that scenario plays out in quantum physics and the maths. The Cargo Manifesto was sloppy, we know that. Any way possible with this fateful flight
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I said that Chinese government has a habit of hiding their failures like failed rocket launchs.
So it's no surprise that a failed attempt at aquirring technology would be no talked about even if it means keeping shut about US involvement in the loss of civilians
Yes. She tries to explain away the strategic manually switching off the transponder, the advanced flying and sophisticated turns at the waypoints and the border skirting to evade military radar due to electrical failure and hypothermia. Her thesis is completely unreliable and not based on an aviation background but just to make a buck off of the tragedy.
What was De Changy's source for the "Code T" broadcast? I can't find any reference to any kind of emergency message being transmitted by the crew.
I'm still not comfortable with people making 'declarations' based on assumptions. We do not know with certainty that the pilot did do what he is being accused of. Accusations without solid evidence or witness accounts is dangerous. Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.
we have a lot of evidence that is beyond circumstantial
In the court of public opinion, this pilot is Guilty as charged! There's too much evidence to say otherwise in my opinion.
So... In the same year, with the same Airline, with the same aircraft type (777-200), both complete hull losses, with zero survivors, statistically near impossible. But yes. Without judiciary sentencing let's DECLARE THE PILOT OF MH17 A MASS MURDERER...
Nah... that's wrong. And shame on you for condemning someone without 100% certainty.
Not a legal case, it is aviation safety and the only apparent answer is that a pilot took advantage of the cockpit freedom. The reinforced cockpit doors answers the who question pretty much. I wish we could say some unknown perp.
@@billtracy8774 Exactly!
I was obsessed with plane crashes before this incident. I still remember the morning I woke up and read about MH370. I thought to myself, "Crap, this is going to be a long drawn out case I am going to be obsessed with." I figured it would be many months or a few years. I never imagined we would be this far out and still not know.
Woulda been found so much earlier but Malaysia Government doesn’t want MH370 to be found because not only it would cost them a lot but they would then also have to compensate the families who lost their member on that plane
You may not know what happened, but I do. The evidence is overwhelming that the pilot planned out a murder suicide of immense proportions. Just because we don’t have the actual aircraft, that doesn’t matter at all. The evidence is overwhelming and indisputable.
Yes ways believe the first thing that the evening "News" tells us
Then you "know"😅😅😅😅😅
Ehud Barack knew who dun 9/11 before nightfall e en though the FBI could never back his assertion. with "any hard evidence ".
I really appreciate Ross's efforts in investigating what might have happened to MH 370. Like Ross, I am mystified as to why a very accomplished pilot supposedly of sound mind would want to go to such lengths to kill his passengers and crew and then himself by supposedly ditching his plane in the southern Indian Ocean. We may think we know the "how" of what happened. But the question remains: "Why?" People don't do such things without overwhelming, compelling reasons.
I so agree with this.
Now this is what I want to hear. Every person who had a loved one on this plane deserves to know where and how this happened.
What happened to the pilot after he ditched it?
And they should watch Mentour Pilot instead of this conspiracy theory. One of the pilots flew the plane into the Indian Ocean.
@@Solitude47152 He died with the rest of the plane's deceased passengers and crew!
The words “controlled ditching” will echo in my mind for weeks now, so there’s that at least.
We may find the plane, but we'll likely not find the truth.
If they find the flight data box we will know exactly what happened. (but yes, the motivation why the captain wanted to dissapear the plane will maybe never be answered)
I agree; a plane will be found but not MH370.
Even if they find the plane, they won't get the answers they need to solve the mystery, as the captain turned off the two flight recorders before that data was recorded on them.
I think it will actually be the other way around
@@SpiralCasterPlaysPedalsFlight recorders turned off means no record of what happened after that time. I don't think it will ever be found, and if it is, it still won't prove what happened, as there would be no record after ten years in salt water, even if FRs weren't turned off. Let it rest. There is nothing to be gained. Searchers will find no answers, only more questions for the conspiracy theory posters.
Very interesting to watch both theories. Thank you for sharing
Larry Vance is the man .. very logical and makes the most sense.
This was a highly orchestrated act by the pilot! This was done on purpose and was completely controlled. Period!
I’m of that theory as well .
I can't believe that you have interviewed this woman who has absolutely nothing to do with aviation and is formulating her own story of what happened to MH370. She is truly out of this world😂
Green Dot Aviation here on YT did a fantastic video recently, their video makes the most sense.
Larry Vance was an excellent investigator. His insight is valuable to see, thank you for the interview.
Thanks mate..! Your Journalism, and integrity is very much appreciated in this Aviation disaster. Let's ALL follow the data and solve this case. Cheers.
As a pilot and aeronautical engineer, I find Changy”s understanding of the technicalities extremely poor, as opposed to Vance’s clear and reasonable deductions. The question is why one of the pilots diverted the aircraft. My only support for Changy’s idea is if someone had a lean o one of the pilots, like divulging a sinister secret about one of them.
Vance is an old Canadian Transportation investigator. As a 5 Eyes Canadian former Government employee, of course he is Not impartial, and would toe the shameful US Military Cover-up line.
@FMDD168 Other pilots and those experienced in this field(some not American, Canadian, etc)also agree that the plane crashed due to the pilot's actions. Any cover up was probably from Malaysian authorities.
I guarantee you that’s not Amelia Earhart’s plane.
Hi Ross, for years I havebeen admiring your work. Congrats ! MH-370 is a different animal and as I am writing this comment I have not yet seen your presentation. As an ex pilot, investigator and air force officer I also closely followed MH-370. For the last 7 months I closely watched Ashton Forbes and his interviews with very reputable academics and even ingeneers who are working on black budgets. Having seen the dark side of the CIA, nothing would surprise me, especially with thos chip engeneers on board ..... Happy Easter to you and your family.
Check out the video: Debunks of the Aliens Abducting a Plane by Mick West
It's only 2 minutes long and debunks the fake video
Sorry, I dont believe a word from Mr.West!
@@richardw3052yeah, unfortunately West is incredibly gifted at badly debunking things and making it look really clean. It’s a weird fucking paradox
Credible reporting. Thank you.
Another unbiased interview. You are an excellent interviewer.
I didn’t come here for UFO’s I came here for your reporting.
Malaysia does not like to discuss or highlight this.
Because they are corrupt. It’s so sad
@@usdepartmentofthetreasury489 It would cost them BIG TIME!
Sorry, she did not convince me, only that she hasnt the foggiest. She doesnt know what happened to the plane, how it was 'disappeared' . Shes 'narrowed ' it down to the Chinese, Americans or failing that the Russians.- wow! great investigative work. SHe asks the Captains family for his profile- ah der.. as if they would not say anything favourable.
She had some good points and info. But I dont agree with her conclusion
well said
Finding the wreckage will not give us the pilot's motivation.
Ive seen countless YT videos on MH370, many of which are badly put together cut n paste efforts. But this is pure clsss. Two points of view, presented well. Thank you Ross and your team.
I’m an airline captain for a major European airline. I’ve read Larry Vance’s book and I agree completely with his conclusions.
That was a well planned and deliberate act from the Captain, period.
And for that reason I don’t think at all we will ever see a new search anyhow sponsored by Malaysian Government
I agree with the controlled ditching theory. The woman journalist theory about it being disappeared can't buy that one
Look, I am not making assertions about what happened to the flight nor about the pilot nor about the veracity of Mr. Vance’s theory, but my god are Florence de Changy’s claims illogical. Using military assets to block mayday transmissions? Laser weapons to shoot down the plane? Cooperation from the Chinese government ? I’m not sure which is most implausible (probably the latter). She talked to the pilot’s childhood friends and his family and concluded his intentions and the fate of the aircraft? Uhhhh…… ok. Was it confirmed that the “tango code” was even given ? I have not seen that officially confirmed. You only see it speculated on reddit and in Florence de Changy’s assertions. Possibly the Malaysian press reported and retracted it but that is it. Also there is a flaw in logic to say that if the code was given, it must mean the pilot and co-pilot were not responsible. Let’s assume the code was relayed. We don’t have any evidence to suggest who sent the code. If the co-pilot signaled the code, we can’t assume the pilot was innocent. Likewise if the pilot signaled, we can’t assume the co-pilot was innocent. If neither of them signaled the code we can’t assume either is innocent. In actuality, we can’t even assume that the person who signaled was innocent.
Sorry to say, the story from florence is complete nonsense.
Yeah..the lady seems nuts and just wanted to sell a book.
She stick to sailing. She is barking.
@@matthiasmeyer9747 i am listening to her interview for the third time thinking "whaaaaaaat?" she is making no sense. why was she even interviewed. she brings nothing to the table.
A controlled landing on the sea would have meant that anyone alive on the plane would have drowned and knowingly faced that terror before doing so. Except the pilot who probably shot himself. So horrible to think about.
Thanks Ross for being a real & honest reporter & not a robot like most today. Your work to get to the truth is amazing & we need so much more of. I pray there is a new search for the families. They have to find this plane no excuses.
Florence de Changy's ideas require so much belief in impossible things I'm surprised she hasn't included unicorns and various kinds of magic in it.
Her laughter at the drifting of the debris so far shows a total lack of knowledge of ocean currents and drift rates, as it is very reasonable indeed - in fact, oceanographers were consulted when it was found, and they confirmed the distance over that time agreed with the approximate area of the aircraft disappearing by backtracking known ocean currents. in addition, you can look into the data collected by radio amateurs, who have developed a method of tracking based on the disturbance of radio traffic caused by large metallic objects, and which places the wreckage very close to the search area, having done a couple of slow figure eight turns prior to ditching - just as you would expect of a pilot making sure there was no shipping anywhere within sight, while checking wind drift and wave direction. Every piece of known evidence points to that location - the only thing unknown is why. Mentour pilot did a good and scientific analysis on his channel a short while ago.
Really!! Can she not explore & investigate other possibilities?? For instance what if the captain & copilot didn’t do it?? Is there any real solid proof he did ? Occams Razor favours it, but 2 plus 2 isn’t always four, what if something else did do something to the plane. How the hell do you explain all the diabolical misdirection that has occurred in the during & after the event. Microphones of the WA coast pointed mathematically to a likely crash site hundred of miles north from the arc. Locals in the Maldives tell of a low flying big jet that morning? If the flapper on is that of mh370 what happened to it mfg plate ? Why does it look like it was machined off?? How convenient it is Indiana Jones discovered it after just 15 minutes & beggars belief there was a truck load of English speaking journalists in the middle of nowhere in less than 2 hours for f### sake. Anyone who lost anyone or is even vaguely possessing some critical thinking would be insulted by what officials of the airline & governments have put forward!!!!
Agreed!
Apply this to Larry Vance’s assumptions labeled, polished, and delivered as fact.
Continue to watch internet, keeps you more entertained . Lol
Look back over the years… how many conspiracy theories have been proven to be true? In this day and age and our so called Governments around the world, I won’t rule anything out. Except unicorns. Magic however is another story…
Does this mean you could still find the body of the plane with decomposed bodies in it?
Yes. Probably just bones now though
if it just sunk into the ocean.. then yea.. it's somewhere down there.
Yes
love that he never explains his reasoning. if you do the math. ok what exactly? specificly what math has to be done?
Exactly 💯
It would take a 60 metre long plane crashing into incompressible water at 150 metres per second (560km/h) less than 0.4 of a second to completely disappear into millions of pieces. This did not happen.
if hollow plane made out of lightweight metal meets sea level in full free fall speed, it would take 0.04 second to disassemble wing into debris in size of coins all over the place.... not complete wings, tails and so on. that's the math/physics he is referring to in regard to debris found on Reunion.
I've always believed someone saw where It went. The alternative view is that potentially enemy aircraft can fly about without ever being detected.. a very scary thought.
1st interviewee, very good point. It would be very complicated for this to have all happened by accident.
This must have been a mass murder / suicide by the pilot for sure
Seems most plausible based on scant evidence.
Oh yes for sure!😂🤣😃 Must of been!!
You are a great presenter! Keep the good work up!
I'm a Senior Aircraft Mechanic. Removed and Reinstalled a 777 Flaperon 3 weeks ago. Takes 4 people to lift one out of the crate. At the very least 2 to move it from the horizontal to vertical position to attach the lifting sling prior to the hoist. Maybe, if it was undamaged and still water tight it could float? Definitely not one that was ripped off from a crash. It would sink in the ocean. Show me the pic of the recovered flaperon.
Bravo to you sir for being open to other ideas and not talking down to others who have opposing/different opinions. Very refreshing to hear. It’s such a complex topic and no one has enough evidence to say positively what took place. Please keep more episodes of this nature coming and you have another viewer for life. Wishing everyone the best. Cheers!
I found she did not explain herself well. I am left a non believer of her analysis.
Mentour Pilot channel has a very important study of the disappearance which should be seriously considered
Mentour delves deeper into the satellite data, which is very interesting
Where is the proof that it was shot down, by anyone?
if it was shot down there would be debris everywhere in the location it happened.
Navy exercises in the region at the time of the crash. Military radar conveniently picking up the plane's last known position far away from the last civil radar contact, rescue vessels again directed to the Gulf of Thailand or the Andaman Sea and not to the South China sea etc. Everything smells like a cover-up!
I believe the pilot, like many of us, had a cyber life fostered by his continual use of his flight simulator. If you consider that his job was flying, why would he come home and do more flying on his computer? Why would he then erase all of the simulator history, detailing his flight scenarios. I used to have Microsoft Simulator and fly around Chicago on it. Eventually, I got bored and would buzz the beaches or fly through the high rises. I believe the pilot concocted this elaborate flight line to try to beat the simulator. He made a game out of it. He tried to fly, undetected, and ditch far away from every authority to prove his intellect. As sad as this is, it's a compelling theory, at least as plausible as these that Ross has presented. This man was nearing the end of his career, his marriage was failing, he had nothing to show for years of work. I believe that he lashed out and decided to go out with a bang.
All pilots I ever met loves flying. They cant get enough of it. They like the simulator because that´s where you can do flying instead of sitting looking at the auto pilot for hours and hours. Give me one reason why a man like captain Shah would ever leave his children!?
He did it, because he was having a mid-life crisis that left him in turmoil. His wife was also leaving him. Mass murders are generally committed by middle-aged men who are responding to a severe and acute stressor.
Did the Captain not practice his route on his home simulator and turn and turn off everything at the Igari waypoint turning west and killing the rest of the people with the lack of oxygen. Green Dot channel explained this.
Yes he did exactly that
I don't believe the pilots were involved in the disappearing of the air plan.
Vance theory: Pilot really wanted to ditch the airplane remotely so it can't be found and commit suicide in the process. Okay, so, motive? What pilot would ever want to do this?
Suicide never makes sense.
Suicide while killing a bunch of other people usually has an obvious motive though. Doesn't add up to me.
@@hatsofftoroyharper2 Do you remember the German Wings accident where the pilot deliberately flew into a mountain. He had history of depression but it appears Capt Zahari had no reason to kill himself. The air accident guy has made his mind up already that it was Capt Zahari but without the black boxes I don't know how he can say that this is exactly what happened. I didn't like his attitude if I'm honest.
@PeterStone-ch9dw no I don't remember that incident, I'll look that up. I agree completely, it seems really dirty to put that out there like that with such little actual evidence to back it up. Seems like an easy answer for everyone to blame the captain. Idk.
Also, if you safely and non-destructively ditch in the ocean all the passengers and crew are presumably ALIVE and won't just stay in their seats and passively drown like compliant co-conspirators, they will exit the plane, likely with flotation devices from the plane and some of their baggage, all of which would be more debris that could be found washed up or spotted from the air at the ditch site.
This is quickly becoming my favorite show. Besides Ross’ other podcast Need to Know
Every component of that flaperon will have a part number and batch number etched into it, these numbers will tell you which aircraft they were fitted to, when and where they were made.
And the serial number found on the flaperon matched one from the 777 that was Flight 370.
Although this flaperon had a part number compatible with MH370, the ident plate was missing, rivets dislodged. Also how did the large bolts holding it to the airframe become undone ?
Very cheesy that US spoke nothing about this. Plane actually flying to Diego Garcia and brought down by USAF.
I suggest viewing the Mentour Pilot's episode regarding this flight. As a very experienced airline pilot, he provides information and perspective you will not find elsewhere.