After I did the Zhaitan fight, way back when, I was so angry and disappointed that I wrote a 5 page encounter layout, where the fight is broken up into multiple encounters, many people die, the ship is destroyed and the Pact must go all in until the Elder Dragon does down in a blaze of terrible rage and fury like it should have been. To this day, seeing it hurts my soul and your foreshadowing of your disappointment triggered my PTSD. I had to beat up somebody in the streets to make it go away. All that said, even though it's my duty as an MMO enjoyer to hate MMO's, other people, devs and life in general, GW2 is probably the best MMO out there.
That said, they didn't fuck up that badly for a dragon fight ever again. Sure, Dragonstorm isn't breathtaking, but not as ass as Zhaitan. And the athers ARE fun.
The bossfight is boring, but I like the overall plot.. an elder dragon awakens from its 1000-year slumber, raises an entire dead continent to create an undead army, causing a tidal wave that destroys major parts of the world map.. But the dragon didn't know the living races had banded together and created flying ships with plasma cannons, and just gets shot out of the sky :D
Just started watching this, and all I have to say so far is that someone is going to have to sponsor a stream to force Muk to actually play a Barbie game! LOL Looking forward to watching the rest of this Roze!
@@RozeMMO Oh fuck YES PLEASE!!! I'd have to do some Hella digging to find it, but before Snapcam was shut (BOOOO!), we actually discovered there was a Barbie Mermaid Filter. It didn't turn you into Barbie. Oh no! It placed a barbie mermaid doll ON YOUR GODDAMNED NOSE and you talking, makes the doll's head talk too. HE BLOODY HAAAAAAAAAATED IT! Damnit, this is going to take forever to find, but it's worth it! Although he doesn't really Fashion Wars, he tends to have the same look. I mean, have you SEEN his AFK vid? LOL Just remember though, @RozeMMO, it's not Fashion Wars 2! It's Fashion WHORES 2! *Sage nod!* P.S. If you ever come across a vid where he's yelling at "Jackals", that's me! LOL I help Mod the streams and was introduced to your content due to him. While HE might be PG, I'm certainly not! 😹I kind of rabbit-holed on catching up on my games, so I still have to finish this vid. Bloody loving it! I was introduced to your content when @MuklukTH-cam first showed your work and I absolutely adore it! Now back to finding out what happened to your Foreskin! 💜
Man, I was waiting to hear the rant about the Zhaiten fight because everyone made the same damn rant about it after they fought him. Just so you know if your chat hasn't mentioned it, Anet already admitted that it was suppose to be a two stage fight with the first stage in the air and the last on the ground. you can even see a glimpse of a map, in one of the trailers that was suppose to be unlocked after the fight ( the one with dragon in the ground with its maw opened up, so players could explore inside of it.)It was changed because of at least two reasons, 1) they believed the dungeon would have been too long and 2) they ran out of time, so they rushed they had out the door. Thankfully, anet has somewhat learned from this fight and made the others, somewhat better.
Zhaitan being a bad fight is generally accepted, his weakness was.... himself. His minions are his true strength when he himself is basically a cup too close to the edge. If they were to redo the fight, i wish that after you shoot down Zhaitan on the pillar, the pillar does not break, he is still moving below, regenerating. As he is too close to the pillar, you can't attack it from above as it might break and hit the troops below and the ships are too expensive and with too many people to just crash on him, so they land and rush his flailing body like the others who keep an hold on the outpost there. Turns out, unlike a hydra, his regeneration ability can't cover all wounds, so you chop the heads of his mouth one by one so his regeneration is halted enough that you can end him for good, seeing his flailing body finally, forever, come to a halt. His last words being... "[you know who vets]...", being an chilling forshadowing.
I just kept giggling like a lunatic every time you bigged up the Final Boss Fight. It is epic in its awfulness. But it does get better (bro)! Do LWS1- I NEED to see your take on Scarlet Briar and the step-on-me-mummy fodder that is Twisted Marionette. Well played, sir. Well bloody played.
Pure gold as always xD Really love the way you are able to criticize while also giving credit where it's due. All wrapped in a hilarious package! And that song at the end *chef's kiss*
Great video - much better than the final boss fight itself. Oh, I guess that doesn't say much Jokes aside, I appreciate the effort you put into these - you're not just telling, you're acting a whole story of your own!
The asura orphanage-bit had me in tears, great video! I definitely find convincing friends to stick with Guild Wars 2 through the initial, core experience to be the absolute worst thing about it. I have tried (and failed) many times, and this video perfectly encapsulates why that could be. As fond as I am of the original experience for nostalgia reasons, it might be time for ArenaNet to consider a revamp of some sort for all the new players out there. Also f*ck that Zhaitan fight
The saddest about the Final boss is : About 10 years later we actualy redo this fight but how it should be from the begening (aka : Fighting... not just press F) and its really quite enjoyable. Actualy it's part of my favorite encounter in the game so far. (EoD's final and HT Strike) Like u said, the main game isn't that bad, it's juste average with good and bad moments and you named most of them. But this final... it just ruin everything :( At last they fixed it fast enough with even Living World Season 1 final (release one year latter and make available to replay like 2 years ago). Also a missing feature for me is the replay option. Every story content released after this can be replayed whenever you want on any character who done it before. But not the core story, so if u want to redo Fort Stalwar battle. the onlyu option is to redo all the sotry from the begening on a character who haven't it done allready :/
Not surprised when people get to Zhaitan they get disappointed. Be nice if the devs got to finish the whole encounter. People found a hidden room that was basically his corpse and you likely fight undead while destroying the core or organ of necro magic.
When zhaitan flew past the GIANT AIRSHIP, only roaring at it, it was at that moment i knew... i'm not on a playground, i'm on a train. And that train, was more concerned about telling a story rather than making sure i was having a good time.
Ahhahah I saw that ending reaction coming a mile along hahahahha but seriously the heart of thorn's end boss fight is the one you are looking for hahah it's the closest you will get to fight a flying serpent the way you wanted it to be
I loved the song at the end. I'd like to see a colab with Oliver Anthony, the title of the song could be "I gotta get sober after Norn's great hunt party"
6:28 story used to not be on the 10s not sure why they changed it to that. You used to be able to go into story scenes under leveled too. Made for a little bit of challenge if you wanted it.
Honestly The Zhaitan fight is the only part of core they really need to remake. All the pain of fetch quests only to press F on a turret. Anet have admitted it was only half finished.😓
Runescape aging like a fine wine is so based. The game is for the players voted by the players. I don't know any other community like that. Love GW2 as well but they are completely different experiences
Evon Gnashblade is, at this moment, sitting at an empty 100+ person table wearing a party hat and wondering if his invite was sent or not and is considering once more pressing the resend button
So I'm definitely not struggling to follow this after pulling an all nighter and drinking at 8am, but... CBT and meth squirrels? Yeah, seems accurate for GW2.
Ive leveled... 11 times slowly. I like doing the choices differently. I never would have watched a Roze vid if it weren't for Gw2, and that would be a sadness.
LOL, great editing! I hope if you continue after 80 you don't think living world seasons 1 and 2 are the after 80 experience. It's just an "extension" of core game. I found nothing new in them. Not until The expansions of Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire and beyond do the dev's do anything that changes the way the game feels.
Loved the vid. I do hope you get to se the other dragon fights in the game. They are mostly better than this one and one in particular is really good in the open world of HoT, and others are so-so.
gw2 is my first mmo that I sink my teeth in more than just 10+ hours, and now looking at core tyria's story and the ending, it is indeed awful, but when I first fight that dragon I remember the hype, and excitement of doing it and finally defeating it
More effort put into this video by some hobo barely leveling to 80 after 3 years of playing the game, than the effort of the rest of gw2 content creators combined put into their videos over said 3 years. Wish he'd put a fraction of this effort into pressing the dodge button.
to be honest, GW2 was my first mmorpg (not counting UO which I only sniffed at before dropping it in disgust). And I actually liked the Zhaitan fight. Of course today I see and dread its boring buggy mess.
those gated level msq never used to exist infact at launch you could unlock all your skills pretty quickly by using them and get skill points by playing and leveling to 80 was quick and the msq never had a level locks, also get ready those mob rehashes keep coming !
The base game ending is so disappointing and bad, I wish they reworked the whole base game story before making a newer expansion tbh. But wait till you do LW4 that damn story is so good, I even like it more that all FFXIV lol (the main problem with FFXIV is there's too much fcking yapping, the story is great though, but too much yapping. In LW4 you'll find one of the best ever story telling in any MMO in my opinion)
4 Minutes in and, once again, I already hate you, Roze 😂
I am an editing punishment sent directly from God for whatever sins you comitted in a previous life
oh shit Noxxi in chat
At this point Muk should give you a dedicated charge code for editing Roze content that's 1.5 times your normal rate 😂
And over the holidays as well! 🤣🤣
I'm a simple man. Roze posts GW2 content. I consume it instantly.
Yes
Yes
true crazy
43 minutes of pure distilled brain rot, and I'm here for it. LFG
Zhaitan fight may be bad, but the soundtrack during it is pure fire :)
After I did the Zhaitan fight, way back when, I was so angry and disappointed that I wrote a 5 page encounter layout, where the fight is broken up into multiple encounters, many people die, the ship is destroyed and the Pact must go all in until the Elder Dragon does down in a blaze of terrible rage and fury like it should have been.
To this day, seeing it hurts my soul and your foreshadowing of your disappointment triggered my PTSD. I had to beat up somebody in the streets to make it go away.
All that said, even though it's my duty as an MMO enjoyer to hate MMO's, other people, devs and life in general, GW2 is probably the best MMO out there.
you're telling me the final fight of a rushed campaign was bad 12 years ago??? psh..................
That said, they didn't fuck up that badly for a dragon fight ever again. Sure, Dragonstorm isn't breathtaking, but not as ass as Zhaitan. And the athers ARE fun.
Well that is even more work for Noxxi.
I live to cause suffering
And we're here for it! 😀
Noxi cut that part out
Now the game starts.
ah that credit song was really fitting. On to LWS1 you legend!
Oh my God!! Okay it’s happening. Everyone stay calm! STAY F***ING CALM
The bossfight is boring, but I like the overall plot.. an elder dragon awakens from its 1000-year slumber, raises an entire dead continent to create an undead army, causing a tidal wave that destroys major parts of the world map.. But the dragon didn't know the living races had banded together and created flying ships with plasma cannons, and just gets shot out of the sky :D
Just started watching this, and all I have to say so far is that someone is going to have to sponsor a stream to force Muk to actually play a Barbie game! LOL Looking forward to watching the rest of this Roze!
I'd pay money to see him play a barbie game and realise he's just playing a variant of Fashion Wars 2
@@RozeMMO Oh fuck YES PLEASE!!! I'd have to do some Hella digging to find it, but before Snapcam was shut (BOOOO!), we actually discovered there was a Barbie Mermaid Filter. It didn't turn you into Barbie. Oh no! It placed a barbie mermaid doll ON YOUR GODDAMNED NOSE and you talking, makes the doll's head talk too. HE BLOODY HAAAAAAAAAATED IT! Damnit, this is going to take forever to find, but it's worth it!
Although he doesn't really Fashion Wars, he tends to have the same look. I mean, have you SEEN his AFK vid? LOL Just remember though, @RozeMMO, it's not Fashion Wars 2! It's Fashion WHORES 2! *Sage nod!*
P.S. If you ever come across a vid where he's yelling at "Jackals", that's me! LOL I help Mod the streams and was introduced to your content due to him. While HE might be PG, I'm certainly not! 😹I kind of rabbit-holed on catching up on my games, so I still have to finish this vid. Bloody loving it! I was introduced to your content when @MuklukTH-cam first showed your work and I absolutely adore it!
Now back to finding out what happened to your Foreskin! 💜
AYO IM 34 Lmaooo. Why the zoom on my face “45 year old men” LOOOOOL. 1:03
Man, I was waiting to hear the rant about the Zhaiten fight because everyone made the same damn rant about it after they fought him. Just so you know if your chat hasn't mentioned it, Anet already admitted that it was suppose to be a two stage fight with the first stage in the air and the last on the ground. you can even see a glimpse of a map, in one of the trailers that was suppose to be unlocked after the fight ( the one with dragon in the ground with its maw opened up, so players could explore inside of it.)It was changed because of at least two reasons, 1) they believed the dungeon would have been too long and 2) they ran out of time, so they rushed they had out the door.
Thankfully, anet has somewhat learned from this fight and made the others, somewhat better.
I really enjoyed this series. I hope Roze continues and does these kinds of videos to the post core content!
Zhaitan being a bad fight is generally accepted, his weakness was.... himself. His minions are his true strength when he himself is basically a cup too close to the edge.
If they were to redo the fight, i wish that after you shoot down Zhaitan on the pillar, the pillar does not break, he is still moving below, regenerating.
As he is too close to the pillar, you can't attack it from above as it might break and hit the troops below and the ships are too expensive and with too many people to just crash on him, so they land and rush his flailing body like the others who keep an hold on the outpost there.
Turns out, unlike a hydra, his regeneration ability can't cover all wounds, so you chop the heads of his mouth one by one so his regeneration is halted enough that you can end him for good, seeing his flailing body finally, forever, come to a halt.
His last words being... "[you know who vets]...", being an chilling forshadowing.
I just kept giggling like a lunatic every time you bigged up the Final Boss Fight. It is epic in its awfulness. But it does get better (bro)! Do LWS1- I NEED to see your take on Scarlet Briar and the step-on-me-mummy fodder that is Twisted Marionette. Well played, sir. Well bloody played.
What a wild ride.
Thank you for these videos, lots of fun :)
dammit roze how did you know XD 19:50
glad you finally finished the series , i love the vids man , can't wait to see whats next
Lets GOOOOOO! Also, totally adding Barbie games to Muk's game recommendation list....
i am so oiled up for this video rn
That Flamethrower is GAS!
Best gw2 commentary ever 12/10 recommended
Man, that ending, sums up everything in just a few short seconds. I’m honestly surprised.
I have been having a really crappy week. But this video made me laugh out loud so many times… thank you man!
I feel so validated right now.
Pure gold as always xD Really love the way you are able to criticize while also giving credit where it's due. All wrapped in a hilarious package! And that song at the end *chef's kiss*
I really want to hear the actual rant. Awesome video Roze!
I dont even like Guild Wars 2, but i will still watch a 43 min video by Roze on it
HE'S BACK BABY!
god i cant wait for you doing the expansions
22:30: Norn Mommy 2.0 and Water Wings Mommy 1.0
Great video - much better than the final boss fight itself. Oh, I guess that doesn't say much
Jokes aside, I appreciate the effort you put into these - you're not just telling, you're acting a whole story of your own!
The asura orphanage-bit had me in tears, great video! I definitely find convincing friends to stick with Guild Wars 2 through the initial, core experience to be the absolute worst thing about it. I have tried (and failed) many times, and this video perfectly encapsulates why that could be. As fond as I am of the original experience for nostalgia reasons, it might be time for ArenaNet to consider a revamp of some sort for all the new players out there.
Also f*ck that Zhaitan fight
3:34 pure gold 😅
1:08 LMAOOOO
Looking forward to Muk's reaction to that particular part of the video (so far) 😂
The saddest about the Final boss is : About 10 years later we actualy redo this fight but how it should be from the begening (aka : Fighting... not just press F) and its really quite enjoyable. Actualy it's part of my favorite encounter in the game so far. (EoD's final and HT Strike)
Like u said, the main game isn't that bad, it's juste average with good and bad moments and you named most of them.
But this final... it just ruin everything :(
At last they fixed it fast enough with even Living World Season 1 final (release one year latter and make available to replay like 2 years ago).
Also a missing feature for me is the replay option. Every story content released after this can be replayed whenever you want on any character who done it before. But not the core story, so if u want to redo Fort Stalwar battle. the onlyu option is to redo all the sotry from the begening on a character who haven't it done allready :/
Not surprised when people get to Zhaitan they get disappointed.
Be nice if the devs got to finish the whole encounter. People found a hidden room that was basically his corpse and you likely fight undead while destroying the core or organ of necro magic.
When zhaitan flew past the GIANT AIRSHIP, only roaring at it, it was at that moment i knew... i'm not on a playground, i'm on a train. And that train, was more concerned about telling a story rather than making sure i was having a good time.
Oh... and one more thing. These videos are precious. Truly great. Thanks for the laughs and the work.
This made me cry from penus AND from eye!
Song's awesome Dude ❤
Sylvari Engineer is one of the most beautiful race/class combos.
Greetings from the Legions o7 The Charr appreciate your passion for our craft.
Once again...laughing so hard I can't effing breathe. Thank you Roze. And yes, we were all let down by that last fight. See you in game. o7
Ahhahah I saw that ending reaction coming a mile along hahahahha but seriously the heart of thorn's end boss fight is the one you are looking for hahah it's the closest you will get to fight a flying serpent the way you wanted it to be
I loved the song at the end. I'd like to see a colab with Oliver Anthony, the title of the song could be "I gotta get sober after Norn's great hunt party"
Another great video of the baldest man on earth
God I’ve been WAITING for this. Pulling out the popcorn!
This, just like Zhaitan's design and unlike his fight, is a masterpiece.
DO THE EXPANSIONS YOU GOON!!
I just started to watch it and i already know i will have to rewatch it like the other videos. God damn this man knows my humour xD
That mic audio is sounding great!
the first 2 and a half minutes made me wanna finish the core story. for 2 seconds
And starting with the Kralk music. Awesome :)
I really dig your song. Thanks for your hard work.
Dragon End meta. This is what Gw2 Open world Peak experience is. Hope one day you see it.
By peak do you mean the most leeched? I love how there are people AFK'ing on their skyscales spamming fireball, that is PEAK game content!
This is where the fun begins
For that flamethrower alone u deserve a billion likes.
6:28 story used to not be on the 10s not sure why they changed it to that. You used to be able to go into story scenes under leveled too. Made for a little bit of challenge if you wanted it.
I love GW2. It's the only MMO I always go back and play.
I'm pretty sure those Asura orphans were dragon minions, better safe than sorry.
Since the start of this series, i was waiting for this boss fight. We suffered through, now you can too HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
My man is completely unhinged
I really hope you do the other expansion stories.
Honestly The Zhaitan fight is the only part of core they really need to remake. All the pain of fetch quests only to press F on a turret. Anet have admitted it was only half finished.😓
Runescape aging like a fine wine is so based. The game is for the players voted by the players. I don't know any other community like that. Love GW2 as well but they are completely different experiences
Facts the moment that saved gw2 story for me was claw island as well this is where the good story starts in the base game
40:52 aha you got a very rare invite to our good friend Evon Gnashblade`s birthday party :D how was the party?
Evon Gnashblade is, at this moment, sitting at an empty 100+ person table wearing a party hat and wondering if his invite was sent or not and is considering once more pressing the resend button
So I'm definitely not struggling to follow this after pulling an all nighter and drinking at 8am, but... CBT and meth squirrels? Yeah, seems accurate for GW2.
Ok…. That intro has more fuckin hype than anything ANET’s marketing team has ever made 😯
Where is the Zelda cdi 3d thing from at 29:35?
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How TF you know about that cucumber my mom tells me to stay away from, dude?
Ive leveled... 11 times slowly. I like doing the choices differently. I never would have watched a Roze vid if it weren't for Gw2, and that would be a sadness.
Oh shit I'm early on this one!
LOL, great editing! I hope if you continue after 80 you don't think living world seasons 1 and 2 are the after 80 experience. It's just an "extension" of core game. I found nothing new in them. Not until The expansions of Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire and beyond do the dev's do anything that changes the way the game feels.
More Absolute Cinema
Loved the vid. I do hope you get to se the other dragon fights in the game. They are mostly better than this one and one in particular is really good in the open world of HoT, and others are so-so.
I'm a new player and currently at level 50, and I'm getting distracted by the Christmas event lmao. I made 100 gold tho.
gw2 is my first mmo that I sink my teeth in more than just 10+ hours, and now looking at core tyria's story and the ending, it is indeed awful, but when I first fight that dragon I remember the hype, and excitement of doing it and finally defeating it
Great video, script and edit, well done.
"Everyone", except a lot of the original GW1 players. Right.
the song hits hard 😝🤘
i hope you payed attention to it being Evon Gnashblade birthday. it was a hard thing to be aware of when it happened.
Also to everyone watching the video: YOU NEED TO PAUSE THE VIDEO EVERY TIME HE PUTS ON TEXT, you'll thank me later~
Now i'll wait for the videos about the expansions and living world experiences so they get compared to this, especially the main quest end fights
ha yes dignity, I like that.
5% of the game is done, NOW let the horizontal progression begin 😂
I get the feeling that you really enjoyed the dragon fight and want similar experiences in the addons.
I need mukluk to react to just the intro of this video lol
Outro song slaps hard
hope to see his reaction to the Morde/Kralk fights... lets not talk about Jor and Pri.
7:53 Uh oh.....
are those the sounds of recognition I hear? 😶
More effort put into this video by some hobo barely leveling to 80 after 3 years of playing the game, than the effort of the rest of gw2 content creators combined put into their videos over said 3 years.
Wish he'd put a fraction of this effort into pressing the dodge button.
former* hobo. Ive secured a crack den to live in I'll have you know.
to be honest, GW2 was my first mmorpg (not counting UO which I only sniffed at before dropping it in disgust). And I actually liked the Zhaitan fight.
Of course today I see and dread its boring buggy mess.
very good video
will you do an expansion review?
those gated level msq never used to exist infact at launch you could unlock all your skills pretty quickly by using them and get skill points by playing and leveling to 80 was quick and the msq never had a level locks, also get ready those mob rehashes keep coming !
Bold move to call out the quality of that last dragon fight while using AI generated music of all things as your video finale.
The base game ending is so disappointing and bad, I wish they reworked the whole base game story before making a newer expansion tbh. But wait till you do LW4 that damn story is so good, I even like it more that all FFXIV lol (the main problem with FFXIV is there's too much fcking yapping, the story is great though, but too much yapping. In LW4 you'll find one of the best ever story telling in any MMO in my opinion)
Hey, it gets better in the next part of the story....
u are a goddamned genius
whats the music in the opening?
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@@RozeMMO you are the first youtuber that send the source of the music when i ask, thank you kind sir