So many pieces of Batman history within this scene, especially with the Joker himself. Stagg Industries, a corporation heard in Arkham Knight. Joker’s Journal, something he also does in the 2019 movie. Joker becoming sane, White Knight. Joker becoming sane after Batman being gone, The Dark Knight Returns. That classic joke, the Killing Joke. Joker dying with a sharp object in his eye, The Dark Knight returns. They’ve definitely done their homework.
Stagg Industries is actually from the comics tho. It's a competitor to Queen, Wayne and Kord Industries. Its owner, Simon Stagg, has ties to organized crime, supervillains and illegal bioenhancement experiments
It’s actually happened in the comics before. Joker mortally wounds Batman and he falls into a river floating away. Joker realized that he didn’t have anything else to live for so he becomes sane and actually gets a girlfriend who moves in with him and they love each other and live happily for a while. Turns out Batman lived and was just recovering. So when Batman comes out of the woodwork to stop a crime (idk which one every crime ever has happened in Gotham), joker kills his girlfriend after seeing it on the news and returns to crime.
@@shocktrooperstudios659 joker doesn't even kill her, he actually hands her safely to batman in his final moment of clarity before he permanently reverts to his old self
Happens in the Dark Knight Returns universe too. After Jason's death, Bruce quits being batman for years, and the Joker goes catatonic in Arkham. When Batman returns, Joker instantly springs back into action as well.
The way Jason was so sweet and supportive to this random man’s problems in the beginning, but doesn’t hesitate literally seconds later to stab him straight through the eye says a lot about Jason’s morals as a character. He’s not edgy and cold as people like to pretend he is, he can be nice and funny and friendly to people he doesn’t think are evil.
He makes it clear that he doesnt want to kill every criminal, hell, he was a petty criminal as a child so he knows that some criminals are just people down in their luck and have no other choice. He just wants the unfixable ones like the Joker to die
@@guilhermehank4938 precisely, that's the whole point of one of his monologues. He kills the criminals who are either too sadistic to be left alive or the ones who won't follow his new guidelines on crime. Jason takes over the Gotham underworld in order to enforce as many innocents being left alone as possible.
@@guilhermehank4938 I feel like Jason Todd is a good criticism of both philosophies. Batman's and his own. There are definitely problems with the fact that Batman doesn't kill Joker but hey, why the fuck hasn't the state just even quietly had someone shoot him? And his own because while he's in the emotional state he's in during the movie. He's not fit to decide who lives or dies because he runs the risk of killing becoming his primary problem stopper.
Seriously, if the GCPD weren't comic book cops, half the rogues wouldn't make it to booking! You'd get something like, "Argh! We hit this speed bump and that human scum that killed twenty of us broke his neck in three places! What shitty luck, right?"
@@tek512 dude, Antifa literally means anti fascist, it was started at the beginning of WW2 from German civilians who wanted to overthrow hitler, many young people died standing up to hitler. So unless Joker has killed nazis and I don't know about it, no, the comparison is not valid
@@NicheXCC Adult Swim was already joking about that. Either that or cops would arrange something in prison not to mention that Joker pissed off lot of criminals as well.
GCPD Officer: "HANDS IN THE AI- wait, is that guy you just killed the Joker?" Jason: "Yep." GCPD Officer: "Well, damn. Legally, I think we need to give you the key to the city or something now."
Managing to stylistically combine Killing Joke, Death in the Family and Dark Knight Returns in one scene is damn impressive. And I love that they brought back John DiMaggio, my favorite non-Hamill Joker.
Let's be real: Jason would never do time for this. Yes he will get arrested, yes there will be something resembling a trial (I pity the prosecutor who takes this case, because their career is over), but there is NOT a jury in Gotham, let alone the world, that would convict Jason
Naw, Jason would walk. Joker is so hated and feared, no one cared about him. The rest of the Arkham crew would be glad he's dead and there's no one other than Harley that would care enough to try to intimidate the jury. Jason would walk. But he'd probably not be welcome in the BatFamily again cause Batman is insane in his own right.
I just love the change of Jason's facial expressions as joker tells his joke, like before the joke it comforting, and brotherly look which is then followed by a blank stare as Jason tries to process his memories and coming to terms with the fact that the one person responsible for so much pain in his life is just there sitting next to him confiding in him like a friend, to a firmer look of pent up anger that he is about to unleash
Well I don't think he'd have unleashed it had the Joker not come back to life when he realized who he was talking to. He smiled like a psycho and that's how you knew it was about to begin again. But Jason stopped it right there.
It's a little thing but I like that Joker not only knows the difference between Batman and Nightwing in a bat suit, but clearly understands why he's doing it.
@@theotherguy21 they really should use him more, especially now because Mark Hamil is no longer voicing Joker (until he returns for the 10th time after he was "done" with the role)
I wanted to believe jason actually wanted to test if the joker actually reformed, after knowing from his smile, jason think that he is beyond saving,and ended the guy before he made another move to torture him, since joker knew jason is alive, he can become joker again, since now he has another guy to toy with aside from batman
@@illcommunications415 that didnt explain how he wait to attack or just go out, and shot him from several building across. He wanted to see the guy's reaction Otherwise he'd find other ways to kill him that didnt involve him being caught in the blue
It makes sense. Granted he always set out to kill him. But I think it was a genuine reaction to finding out, that the guy who tortured him was sitting right beside him the whole time. Once Joker realized that it was Robin 2, he realized (much like others have stated) that his second favorite punching bag; is still alive. Which, if he's still alive... There's a good chance Joker can use him as bait to draw out "the big man".
@@nicktaylor2391 what's interesting is how joker describes batman, that he "fights with him" not againts, its almost as if joker thinks he is a sparring partner or some sort to the bats
@@kalelpinas Red Hood was originally very much not a path to healing. Before new52, Jason got more and more unhinged that he'd give Two Face a run for his money. After new52, the path of Red Hood was indeed a path to heal as his made new allies who were good people and rubbed off on him. He reconnected with the Bat family before a new writer wanted to do their "Take away everything from Bruce, destroy Gotham, and things will never be the same again!" every few years.
There's 3 references in this. The Killing Joke Joker telling Bruce his joke, Joker stabbed on similar way like in Dark Knight Returns and painted "normal" face in Batman 1989 movie.
@@noirrugger shit i would of done more than stabbed him in the eye 😂😂 if my dad was batman and joker killed him that knife would of hit his head, eye, chest etc 😂😂
Yes, he’s probably good at acting and fitting in with the world he just prefers his ways with Batman around, like I said in another comment, Joker could get a physiological test and be found sane.
@@bluecrusaderfilms It depends on the version. Batman TAS Joker is mostly sane. In The Batman he's clearly less in control of himself, as seen in the episode where they literally go inside of his mind and see it's pure chaos. The comics go back and forth on it depending on who's writing.
It's mentioned that Joker can't exist without Batman/vice versa. TAS, Joker purposely robs a bank just to draw Batman's attention and the moment he realizes Bats doesn't show he tells Harley and his goons to put the jewelry back. He goes along the lines saying "Without Batman, crime has no punchline." In Flashpoint, Bruce's death triggers his dad to become Batman and ironically, his mom to become the Joker. In the Red Hood, Batman mentions that if he were to kill Joker (or anyone for that matter) he'd go down a path he could never return from. Joker is even a representation of Bruce's inner insanity, a grown man in a cape going around fighting crime isn't sane and despite Bruce's tough demeanor he has a no kill rule. Of course, again going back to The Red Hood reference, Bruce going down a path of vigilantism would cause him to go insane just like Joker. To conclude, Joker becoming somewhat normal when Batman dies isn't a surprising thing.
@@IGamingStation It's more like Joker can't function without Batman (arguably, the same could be said of Riddler, even if that doesn't come up as much. The other Rogues probably couldn't care less), but 'viceversa' is wrong, Batman could still go on without a Joker around just fine.
At Jason’s trial Defense attorney: ladies and gentlemen of the jury my client did indeed kill the joker Prosecutor: he indeed did Jury after 3 minutes of deliberation: we find the defendant not guilty Judge: seems reasonable have a good day Mr. Todd
For some reason, this stands to me as such a beautiful scene. So much tension in telling a simple joke. The music, the dialogue. This one part feels like a masterfully crafted moment
I like that Jason's finally getting more love, thares an interesting dynamic you can set up between Bruce Dick and Jason, and how both Dick and Jason. Represent the 2 opposing extremes of Bruce's methods, or you could something similar but with Batgirl instead of Nightwing and show how people deal with trauma in different ways and how scince Barbra still had Dick, Bruce, Alfred and her dad, and Jason didn't and that affected how they turned out,
@@quebal_kelly Yes, but it has been a while since I read them. I think in Batman Eternal, Robin War and Batman & Robin Eternal. Just search for these and you will find it.
@@quebal_kelly You should also check out Batman: Three Jokers for more Jason and Barbara intercations and dealing with their trauma inflicted by The Joker
Bingo! Is that your final answer? Let’s show em what they’ve won! A brand new live action DC movie, wow, better luck next time buddy. But hey now you’ll get to see how DC fucks itself closer and closer to not getting any more money squeezed from the live action shit until all we have left is cartoons and video games as god intended.
@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked Tell me you don’t want more Cartoons and Video Games from dc instead of more shitty live-action dc movies (I’m quite aware the the new suicide squad movie was decent but one in like 7 shitty movies is not good).
Kind of like a fate that they both would run into the same dinner. Both in civilian get up, the joker knew he would kill him in that moment and was happy he could mess with batman one last time.
You know, there's been quite a few takes on Joker's end. Killing Joke, Dark Knight Returns, Arkham City, but it's the first not with Batman I find poetic. It's both a good exploration of Jason and Joker, which is I think the highlight of this movie. Says a lot about the power of this story, wish Red Hood would lend himself in better stories after these events in comics tho.
SPOILERS FOR _BATMAN: THREE JOKERS_ There's actually pretty good version of Joker's death in the first issue of the comic. Batman leaves one Joker with Jason and Barbara, who were supposed to turn him over to the police, while Batman went after another Joker. Joker starts taunting Jason and Jason ends up killing him. It was really satisfying to see Jason do it. Just another good version of Joker dying without Batman around.
@@buster3041 What other versions are there? I can think of Young Justice, but he hasn't been explored at all (yet), and the one from Batman: Ninja, who was okay but not great. What "other versions" were you thinking of?
I love how Jason seems to be the most normal one here, he basically watched his dad die but he heals from it with the right support. He slowly goes from cynical to actually taking it to heart with those pep talks, and he eventually opens up. But he still has those scars, it’s really good stuff and really human. I love stories where mental health can come first.
To be fair, Joker HAS used doppelgangers before to misdirect others, often forcing innocent people by threatening them and their loved ones. The fact you just killed a person who happens to look like Joker doesn't mean, in the law's eyes, you have killed the REAL Joker.
@@josegregoriobencomogomez4958 It's still a crime.I don't think these people understand the law system.Is it bullshit?Sure. But regardless you can't take the law in your hand like that without any trouble. It's still unauthorised murder,by law he should call the police or arrest him and leave him for them
Dude, have you learned nothing from Batman??? Batman has got the balls NOT to kill Joker. Jason lacks the strength to fight that urge. Interesting character though, agreed.
@@thegreenmercenary Yeah. I totally get that ideology but given all the fucked up shit the Joker has done to Gotham and members of the Bat-family, I agree with Jason and his anger towards Bruce and the Joker.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 And Terry isn't one to really...Hold back. Unlike Bruce he didn't get traumatized by watching his parents get gunned down in an alley, he came home to find his father dead from what turned out to be an ASSASSINATION. Of course he isn't the sort who will hold back.
Why this scene is a masterpiece? 1. Jason calling Dick "big brother" 2. "Bat crap" 3. 2:25 this made me fall from where I'm sitting. Did he just call Joker "Friend"? 4. That voice change starting 2:45? Talk about creepy but genius. That background music is also right on point it just sent chills down my spine 5. "I'll tell the big man you said hello" Oh Jason, I just melted.
dammmmmnnnn. Crazy. I like this ending. Its a fitting end for Joker. And for Jason. I always wondered what would happen if Jason actually killed him. This is better than i could’ve ever imagined
3:47 Music: calming Jason: next time i'll see him, i'll tell him you said "hello" Joker: *remembers and realizes* Boy... Wonder... *smiles* Video: ending Me: oh, this aint a joker dead ending, this isn't actually that bad, maybe joker turned a new leaf without bats after all-- Jason: *suddenly stabs Joker in the eye* Me: oh-- wait no, i was wrong, there it is, there's the catch-- oh dear lord god
@Mike Perez No he’s still crazy, he just is good as acting and fitting in with the rest of the world, they could do a physiological test and they’d find him sane.
I’ve always thought that if Bruce was to ever die in the comics Jason would be the Jokers replacement for Bruce since he’s the one with the most history with besides Bruce.
@@jre_esco7379 I just watched this again realized something. The way Joker spoke. He actually quit the clown prince shtick. He doesn't see a point without batman. Until he realized it was Jason and then he was joker again
"Holy bat crap, Dick again!" Mmmm, that and "black mask was barbeque." Are my two favorite lines in this movie. edit: Holy nuggets, that be a lot of like there.
I can't stop rewatching this scene... its literal perfection. The smile... that damn smile... "...Boy Wonder... :D" Its just so unfortunate so many people will miss out on this scene because they didn't get the interactive version of the movie.
It may look different in design, but yeah. It is generally the same diner. So far as I know there's only one diner in Gotham that's generally used in most of the stories, and I'm pretty sure the one they're in is Pauli's Diner.
@@prodeyj1 Jason has always had a reasonable temper. He just snaps at certain people who have done EXTREME harms. Dick is also hot tempered but fans refuse to call him that
@@prodeyj1 Exactly. As Robin he’s only seen losing his temper with some criminals. DC loves to ONLY focus on that rather than to flesh out how he’s helped other kids like him. His soft spot for women. Especially women who working certain jobs that leave them at the mercy of criminals. Also do you even remember how Dick treated Jason. He’s very mellow to his other brothers Tim and Damian because he knows he really fucked up big time by taking out part of his anger & frustration with Bruce at Jason. He only had Bruce and Alfred to lean on and Jay could barely bring himself to trust them. Kind of weird how they always brush that over
This is a bit of a issue with comics. Due to the time, number of writers and different interpretations both official and fan, the idea of a coherent history is difficult to pin down. In this particular interpretation yes. In others no. All in all it comes down to what people feel is cannon. Or what is made cannon within a contained pocket universe of the Batman mythos. Its the same issue with Greek mythology, Arthurian legends or different telling's of Romance of the Three Kingdoms: when something goes on for so long everyone has their take. I mean if something is going to have a past, it might as well be multiple choice?
The canonicity of The Killing Joke is messy. Clearly, Joker did cripple Barbara in the canon. But, the story itself appears to be non-canon. Although, I don't think he killed the Joker in that story. It would weird for Batman to go from "Let me help you." to "I'm going to break your neck.".
Can you get an Academy Award for voice-acting? Because this the THIRD time I’ve watched this and John DiMaggio’s delivery gets more spectacular every time!
This'll always annoy me about Joker. In a city like Gotham where the Joker had murdered hundreds and escaped so many times, I'm pretty sure the police would look the other way if someone killed the Joker.
it is already incredible the joker was never executed by any cop, one of his goons, another gotham criminal with more powers, any of the other heroes or anti heroes that actually kills, or even took a life imprisonment sentence or was sent to death row.
@@malanala7371 i just rent the movie on youtube but is so disappointing. Is only a flashback of under the red hood and 4 chapters of another things that im not even interested in. I feel cheated lmao
Are you referring to the cops? Doesn’t change that Jason just slammed a butter knife through someone’s eye socket. Murdering a murderer is still murder.
They're really, really open-minded when it comes to accepting that living in a free country means not arresting every deranged clown laughing maniacally in a diner at 3 AM.
damn this is so good! The Killing Joke Reference, Joker’s lack of motivation being a crime lord bc batman is dead, Jason realizing he’s talking to the mad man himself, definitely want to watch this movie
Something about this animation reminds me so much of Satoshi Kon. The way the animation lingers but still snaps quickly with action. The way the hand reaches for the knife in one seemingly smooth, calculated motion.
That sounds like an intersting batman premise. The usual women screams, batman begins descending in the shadows and before he can get there. Bang-bang, and the robber is down. See how it would mess with batmans tempo so to speak, how he would respond after that. Like I could imagine him taking the thug to a hospital since he can get him there faster than an ambulance
What I like about this scene is the first time the Joker tells that joke, its after Batman offers to get him help. But the Joker declines. And now, as he's telling it the second time, he's actually trying to rehabilitate himself. Or... was.
1) Yes there idiots 2) the joke is the last joke he told batman at the end of the Killing joke story. In the story it was joker attempt to show some sort of sanity towards batman almost as if he making an effort to connect with batman. however the moral of the joke is that the insane guy will fall no matter if he belived the other guy will not cut off the light i.e the joker will be joker even if he accepts batman help to end it
@@KingBurger52 yeah but what i was suggesting was that in the darknight returns part 2 batman fight a already wounded joker inside a love tunnel course and like in this scene jokers right eye was stabbed by a batarang and in the end batman almost kills joker by choking him but decides to not following that joker says a few words to batman then snaps his own neck while laughing like a maniac these two scenes are hella similar and well after joker snapped his neck the goverment SPOILER WARNING!!! send superman to take down batman hence the animated movie batman v superman where in the end batman beats superman but he staged a heart attack to make the world think he is dead and from there he starts training some people to fight crime like him
that answer is terrible, after years i only realised there's multiple endings, i thought this was a sequel to "redhood" but its a sh!ttt interactive dvd with multiple endings
3:40 - 3:52 - from that conversation alone. With flashbacks...and Joker reawakening with a smile in that diner not realizing it was Jason. Creepy AF. Good job animation team. 😂
@@ArcTrooper269 I'd like to think they'll have to let him get off easy, considering a lawyer can argue he panicked. Although then there's the issue that Jason's supposed to be dead.
@@OneKind671 You could say God. Not that he believes. But think about it: joker wasn’t being literal with what he said. Jason can’t say hello to Batman when he’s dead. So he could have just used God as a figure of speech to mean that Jason’s about to die. It’s a kill joke. Not to mention his “be in bed by 9” line. 9 as in 9 seconds
@@aaromotivestudio3869 lol. When he said to tell the big man he said hello,I'm sure the hello was meant to be Jason's death so batman could find his body as a hello. Get it?
It's a play on Jason's death by joker. It is how he died basicly. When Joker killed him before and left, before the explosion, he told Jason to "Tell the big man I said Hello" I think the line was there to let Joker know who it was he was talking to before Jason killed him
I actually realized after rewatching the scene At first glance it seems crazy for the cops to arrest Jason for killing Joker But now I realize that Joker was in disguise, at first glance it looked like to bystanders and off duty police officers that Jason killed a random man, and they were doing their duty in stopping him Although some of the endings suggest otherwise how it turned out, my realization still explains the situation
See, the impressive thing to me here is that Jason sat there and listened, realized, planned, and executed, all without a single twitch or out of place breath, not after the realization. Joker's realization came after, though, so the one flinch he did have went under the radar. Frankly, all this in mind...Jason is terrifying.
So many pieces of Batman history within this scene, especially with the Joker himself.
Stagg Industries, a corporation heard in Arkham Knight.
Joker’s Journal, something he also does in the 2019 movie.
Joker becoming sane, White Knight.
Joker becoming sane after Batman being gone, The Dark Knight Returns.
That classic joke, the Killing Joke.
Joker dying with a sharp object in his eye, The Dark Knight returns.
They’ve definitely done their homework.
Love this comment it points out a lot
Dont forget joker smile...his smile is the same with old joker when he realize batman return
Stagg Industries is actually from the comics tho. It's a competitor to Queen, Wayne and Kord Industries. Its owner, Simon Stagg, has ties to organized crime, supervillains and illegal bioenhancement experiments
Bruh the only time police was there so fast wtf
Stagg isn't a creation of Arkham, nor is it from Batman.
Joker getting bored and deciding to live a normal life after Batman's death feels weirdly accurate.
Literally His only goal is to make the Batman lose control
It’s actually happened in the comics before. Joker mortally wounds Batman and he falls into a river floating away. Joker realized that he didn’t have anything else to live for so he becomes sane and actually gets a girlfriend who moves in with him and they love each other and live happily for a while. Turns out Batman lived and was just recovering. So when Batman comes out of the woodwork to stop a crime (idk which one every crime ever has happened in Gotham), joker kills his girlfriend after seeing it on the news and returns to crime.
@@shocktrooperstudios659 joker doesn't even kill her, he actually hands her safely to batman in his final moment of clarity before he permanently reverts to his old self
@@Vapor817 oh, guess I forgot that part.
Happens in the Dark Knight Returns universe too. After Jason's death, Bruce quits being batman for years, and the Joker goes catatonic in Arkham. When Batman returns, Joker instantly springs back into action as well.
That reveal was too good. Them both figuring out who is the other with the joke and quote. Just fantastic.
i wonder if the eye stab was a reference to dark knight returns
I feel like it is though. But I wonder why joker wore a disguise? Was he just sick of doing crime because batman was gone?
@@bluemenace04 pretty much, Batman was the reason joker kept killing.
This does however prove that batman didn't kill the joker in the killing joke
@@tenjenk it is
The way Jason was so sweet and supportive to this random man’s problems in the beginning, but doesn’t hesitate literally seconds later to stab him straight through the eye says a lot about Jason’s morals as a character. He’s not edgy and cold as people like to pretend he is, he can be nice and funny and friendly to people he doesn’t think are evil.
He makes it clear that he doesnt want to kill every criminal, hell, he was a petty criminal as a child so he knows that some criminals are just people down in their luck and have no other choice.
He just wants the unfixable ones like the Joker to die
@@guilhermehank4938 precisely, that's the whole point of one of his monologues. He kills the criminals who are either too sadistic to be left alive or the ones who won't follow his new guidelines on crime. Jason takes over the Gotham underworld in order to enforce as many innocents being left alone as possible.
@@kieranadamson3224 and yet he is "the villain" ?
@@guilhermehank4938 I feel like Jason Todd is a good criticism of both philosophies. Batman's and his own. There are definitely problems with the fact that Batman doesn't kill Joker but hey, why the fuck hasn't the state just even quietly had someone shoot him? And his own because while he's in the emotional state he's in during the movie. He's not fit to decide who lives or dies because he runs the risk of killing becoming his primary problem stopper.
@@guilhermehank4938 Jason Todd is the text book example of what we call an "Anti-hero"
"I almost went for batman's kryptonite stash"
I swear Dick and Tim are the only Robin's that don't hate superman 😂
That is accurate...Damian only tolerated Superman for Jon's sake
Jason is a darker version of Batman.
Well unlike soup, bats more a vigilante then superhero so can u blame him ? 🤔😒 eh maybe it's for bizarro world Superman (rimshot)
Clark really likes his speeches and some people just aren't about that crap.
What is there to like…..
Judge: So you killed The Joker?
Jason: Yes.
Judge: Understandable. Have a great day.
Ah come on this is G.C.P.D. be realistic they gonna hunt him down with everything they got.
@@geekhammergamer1438 Right, the GCPD hunt the heroes more ferociously than they do the criminals.
mhm cause they know the heroes won't retaliate
Seriously, if the GCPD weren't comic book cops, half the rogues wouldn't make it to booking! You'd get something like, "Argh! We hit this speed bump and that human scum that killed twenty of us broke his neck in three places! What shitty luck, right?"
Judge: here the key to the city
Jason calling Dick “big brother” makes me so happy I-
Me too.
All four, dick, jason, tim and damian, are the biggest brotherhood in the comics.
@@nintenbetas YES AND I LOVE THAT
What’s the movie called
@@whozoski2976 Batman A Death In The Famiy.
Kills a homicidal maniac that filled every graveyard in Gotham.
*gets arrested*
Sounds about right
@N O LOL yea ok bro
@@42Tonyallen42 I mean, if you look at Joker's history in the comics, it's not a bad comparison.
@@tek512 dude, Antifa literally means anti fascist, it was started at the beginning of WW2 from German civilians who wanted to overthrow hitler, many young people died standing up to hitler. So unless Joker has killed nazis and I don't know about it, no, the comparison is not valid
@N O lol go ahead and google the history of Antifa before you render judgment, don't be a Fox News stooge man
To be honest, the jury would probably let Jason go.
I think they would give Joker the death penalty, by now.
@@NicheXCC Adult Swim was already joking about that.
Either that or cops would arrange something in prison not to mention that Joker pissed off lot of criminals as well.
@@NicheXCC Damn right. If the Jury were sane enough, they would have given him death penalty or create a fake encounter of the Joker.
@@rjofusetsudzin8011
Yeah, from Robot Chicken.
@@NicheXCCYes, the Joker has shown countless times that he's beyond saving.
Joker just can’t help himself kicking a dead horse, can he?
It's like he wants people to kill him. He's what you would call a "special" kind of suicidal person.
You gotta give the boy points; He came all the way back from the dead to make this shindig happen!
Or a dead bat
@@maxcrone3400 so when joker looked at todd what was he gonna do? was he gonna like kill him?
@Radio Kaos so when joker looked at todd what was he gonna do? was he gonna like kill him?
GCPD Officer: "HANDS IN THE AI- wait, is that guy you just killed the Joker?"
Jason: "Yep."
GCPD Officer: "Well, damn. Legally, I think we need to give you the key to the city or something now."
Well... No. He is still a murder.
"Jason Todd, you are hereby sentenced to... A high five, bro!"
@@faisalbaig3262 Its Joker, sniping him from a mile away could be justified as self defence. Similar logic you use for shooting a rabid animal.
This has gotta be the most Tarantino batman scene of all time.
Probably explains why I love it so much lol
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like "overrated". "Do Scorsese instead".
🤔
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like Nah, Irishman was a load of shite; waste of three hours.
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like this is nothing like a Scorsese scene
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like tf you talking about
That face when jason realized that is the joker is so good
It was so funny
The same for the Joker, the moment he realizes who Jason is and smiles... that is so good
Your sus
@@justananimator3279 u kinda sus tho
@@raynard3 let’s vote him out
Boy, the police showed up pretty quick. Why is it that this happens only when the good guys do something wrong?
They were sitting in the diner.
I ask myself the same thing 😂🤔
Prolly because they were in the diner and in the city which cops happens to be near by just chilling
Cause you defunded them
TBF, they probably didn't know that was Joker at the time.
Managing to stylistically combine Killing Joke, Death in the Family and Dark Knight Returns in one scene is damn impressive. And I love that they brought back John DiMaggio, my favorite non-Hamill Joker.
Which movie is this ?
@@mikeevans4051 Batman: Death in the Family
What was this movie called though?
@@deoxal7947 the comment above you
Let's be real: Jason would never do time for this.
Yes he will get arrested, yes there will be something resembling a trial (I pity the prosecutor who takes this case, because their career is over), but there is NOT a jury in Gotham, let alone the world, that would convict Jason
People in Gotham are nuts. They're more afraid of a vigilante killing a mass murderer than they are of the mass murderer.
@@Seek1878 That's probably the most twisted joke I've ever heard.
@@natoriousthehopeful2786 That's because Gotham itself is the punchline.
Naw, Jason would walk. Joker is so hated and feared, no one cared about him. The rest of the Arkham crew would be glad he's dead and there's no one other than Harley that would care enough to try to intimidate the jury. Jason would walk. But he'd probably not be welcome in the BatFamily again cause Batman is insane in his own right.
They will definitely prosecute Jason. The people in the higher class society are controlled by the illuminati(The Court Of Owls)
That “boy wonder” and that sinister face and smile was the best thing ever! Absolute chills!
Love the art style and animation!
Yep, couldn’t imagine a better ending for the joker
Out of all the endings I preferred this one.. not the part with batman dead though..
It was as part of his insanity returned to him.
When he talked about the joke, that’s where it all went down
pantherteen1 what is the movie
@@whozoski2976 it reference the comic and movie the killing joke comic
The moment I heard that voice, the dude saying boy wonder and Bats, I knew it was Joker in disguise.
@@IGamingStation exactly
I just love the change of Jason's facial expressions as joker tells his joke, like before the joke it comforting, and brotherly look which is then followed by a blank stare as Jason tries to process his memories and coming to terms with the fact that the one person responsible for so much pain in his life is just there sitting next to him confiding in him like a friend, to a firmer look of pent up anger that he is about to unleash
Well I don't think he'd have unleashed it had the Joker not come back to life when he realized who he was talking to. He smiled like a psycho and that's how you knew it was about to begin again. But Jason stopped it right there.
It's a little thing but I like that Joker not only knows the difference between Batman and Nightwing in a bat suit, but clearly understands why he's doing it.
John DiMaggio is such an underrated Joker
They should bring him back he's got a good voice sucks he was only used for under the red hood
@@theotherguy21 they really should use him more, especially now because Mark Hamil is no longer voicing Joker (until he returns for the 10th time after he was "done" with the role)
@@JayPannell he really should be brought back more for the darker animated movies
Thank you! I completely agree
@@JayPannell I don't think mark Will ever really be done till the day he dies
I wanted to believe jason actually wanted to test if the joker actually reformed, after knowing from his smile, jason think that he is beyond saving,and ended the guy before he made another move to torture him, since joker knew jason is alive, he can become joker again, since now he has another guy to toy with aside from batman
omg
Nah. Jason was always going to kill him. Just as he should.
@@illcommunications415 that didnt explain how he wait to attack or just go out, and shot him from several building across.
He wanted to see the guy's reaction
Otherwise he'd find other ways to kill him that didnt involve him being caught in the blue
It makes sense. Granted he always set out to kill him. But I think it was a genuine reaction to finding out, that the guy who tortured him was sitting right beside him the whole time. Once Joker realized that it was Robin 2, he realized (much like others have stated) that his second favorite punching bag; is still alive. Which, if he's still alive... There's a good chance Joker can use him as bait to draw out "the big man".
@@nicktaylor2391 what's interesting is how joker describes batman, that he "fights with him" not againts, its almost as if joker thinks he is a sparring partner or some sort to the bats
I kind of like this ending. Jason gets his payback, but he's clearly on some sort of path to healing.
Isn't that why he became the Red Hood? Basically Nightwing that's got no issues about killing his enemies.
@@kalelpinas Red Hood was originally very much not a path to healing. Before new52, Jason got more and more unhinged that he'd give Two Face a run for his money.
After new52, the path of Red Hood was indeed a path to heal as his made new allies who were good people and rubbed off on him. He reconnected with the Bat family before a new writer wanted to do their "Take away everything from Bruce, destroy Gotham, and things will never be the same again!" every few years.
Not anymore. He's a murderer now. To jail with him.
@@Bluesit32 oh plz... only murderer is batman for letting that shit get away just so he could have more play dates
Can you tell me where this scene is from?
Notice how Joker comes back alive when her noticed that it's Robin...
Because he can use him as a punching bag again and continue being Joker
And that's when Jason knew that he can't be left alive....
@@zaxcybits more like "Oh thank God, you came to kill me and free me from this "normal life""
Let’s be honest Jason Todd is the most interesting Robin.
Not back in the day the fans votted to kill him off
@@JoseRodriguez-kw9ez And that’s why he’s the most interesting robin
I find Damian more interesting to be honest
damien is tied for me
What movie is this.
Damn, if their was ever a guy to give Mark Hammil a run for his money
Jake the dog
Also Bender Rodriguez. But I believe most people call him John DiMaggio.
@@classicbirdman5794 and Fin the human
Doctor drakken
I thought it was him until he laughed
I love this ending. Just so poetic that moment when Joker realizes he is talking to Jason and smiles right before Jason kills him. Gives me chills!
There's 3 references in this. The Killing Joke Joker telling Bruce his joke, Joker stabbed on similar way like in Dark Knight Returns and painted "normal" face in Batman 1989 movie.
Plus he has a journal just like in 2019's Joker
That’s the template for killing the joker I think. The killing joke is the cue
"Holy Bat-crap, Dick again!"
Nothing should ever, ever, never EVER be phrased that way.
Joker: kills hundreds
Cops: this is fine
Jason: kills the joker
Cops: ON THE GROUND NOW!!
Gotta think how long he was standing there looking at his dead body... I’d stair as long as it could if he took my Dad from me
@@noirrugger shit i would of done more than stabbed him in the eye 😂😂 if my dad was batman and joker killed him that knife would of hit his head, eye, chest etc 😂😂
@@stevencurtis8 each of his joints first though 😂
Instead of the jail scene nonsense, Jason should have been given a full pardon, the key to the city, ticker tape parade etc.
Well hes the real hero ig
And that's why its called the Killing Joke.
Funny how Joker becomes "Normal"-ish when Batman dies.
He was a joke without a punchline, no body could make that funny.
Yes, he’s probably good at acting and fitting in with the world he just prefers his ways with Batman around, like I said in another comment, Joker could get a physiological test and be found sane.
@@bluecrusaderfilms It depends on the version. Batman TAS Joker is mostly sane. In The Batman he's clearly less in control of himself, as seen in the episode where they literally go inside of his mind and see it's pure chaos. The comics go back and forth on it depending on who's writing.
It's mentioned that Joker can't exist without Batman/vice versa. TAS, Joker purposely robs a bank just to draw Batman's attention and the moment he realizes Bats doesn't show he tells Harley and his goons to put the jewelry back. He goes along the lines saying "Without Batman, crime has no punchline." In Flashpoint, Bruce's death triggers his dad to become Batman and ironically, his mom to become the Joker. In the Red Hood, Batman mentions that if he were to kill Joker (or anyone for that matter) he'd go down a path he could never return from. Joker is even a representation of Bruce's inner insanity, a grown man in a cape going around fighting crime isn't sane and despite Bruce's tough demeanor he has a no kill rule. Of course, again going back to The Red Hood reference, Bruce going down a path of vigilantism would cause him to go insane just like Joker. To conclude, Joker becoming somewhat normal when Batman dies isn't a surprising thing.
@@IGamingStation It's more like Joker can't function without Batman (arguably, the same could be said of Riddler, even if that doesn't come up as much. The other Rogues probably couldn't care less), but 'viceversa' is wrong, Batman could still go on without a Joker around just fine.
who else thinks joker looks creepy asf when he smiles without his plain while face
I sure do.
Always thought it was very effective in Burton's Batman. Visually and thematically.
Fr
At Jason’s trial
Defense attorney: ladies and gentlemen of the jury my client did indeed kill the joker
Prosecutor: he indeed did
Jury after 3 minutes of deliberation: we find the defendant not guilty
Judge: seems reasonable have a good day Mr. Todd
Gotta love (redacted for legal reasons, look up the cpgrey video about the law you'll never be told to learn more)
For some reason, this stands to me as such a beautiful scene. So much tension in telling a simple joke. The music, the dialogue. This one part feels like a masterfully crafted moment
That's the same joke that the Joker made in the Killing Joke movie, right?
Yup
All these references...
As another commenter said
They did their homework.
@@adama9300 Well killing joke isn't a hard comic book story to pass on. It's widely known.
Yes sir-ee bob you betcha
@julian okonkwo He sent it on screen message. It's a different to the killing joke.
"boy wonder...." that was smooth!
Such a good kill
I like that Jason's finally getting more love, thares an interesting dynamic you can set up between Bruce Dick and Jason, and how both Dick and Jason. Represent the 2 opposing extremes of Bruce's methods, or you could something similar but with Batgirl instead of Nightwing and show how people deal with trauma in different ways and how scince Barbra still had Dick, Bruce, Alfred and her dad, and Jason didn't and that affected how they turned out,
Barbra and Jason seems to be close in this film. Are they close in the comics?
@@quebal_kelly Yes
@@echowolf4230 is there a comic?
@@quebal_kelly Yes, but it has been a while since I read them. I think in Batman Eternal, Robin War and Batman & Robin Eternal. Just search for these and you will find it.
@@quebal_kelly You should also check out Batman: Three Jokers for more Jason and Barbara intercations and dealing with their trauma inflicted by The Joker
I feel that Joker was laughing because in a way he knows that Batman won’t approve of Jason killing, so he did his job by tainting Batman’s legacy.
Bingo! Is that your final answer? Let’s show em what they’ve won! A brand new live action DC movie, wow, better luck next time buddy. But hey now you’ll get to see how DC fucks itself closer and closer to not getting any more money squeezed from the live action shit until all we have left is cartoons and video games as god intended.
@@imaginarycorgi7312 ...Oookay.
@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked Tell me you don’t want more Cartoons and Video Games from dc instead of more shitty live-action dc movies (I’m quite aware the the new suicide squad movie was decent but one in like 7 shitty movies is not good).
Kind of like a fate that they both would run into the same dinner. Both in civilian get up, the joker knew he would kill him in that moment and was happy he could mess with batman one last time.
@@imaginarycorgi7312 well that was random and out of nowhere
When joker started telling the joke it literally sent chills down my spine, especially when Jason started realizing.
You know, there's been quite a few takes on Joker's end. Killing Joke, Dark Knight Returns, Arkham City, but it's the first not with Batman I find poetic. It's both a good exploration of Jason and Joker, which is I think the highlight of this movie. Says a lot about the power of this story, wish Red Hood would lend himself in better stories after these events in comics tho.
The only good version of Jason is from this animated version of under the red hood universe.
Every other version is shit.
SPOILERS FOR _BATMAN: THREE JOKERS_
There's actually pretty good version of Joker's death in the first issue of the comic. Batman leaves one Joker with Jason and Barbara, who were supposed to turn him over to the police, while Batman went after another Joker. Joker starts taunting Jason and Jason ends up killing him. It was really satisfying to see Jason do it. Just another good version of Joker dying without Batman around.
@@buster3041 What other versions are there? I can think of Young Justice, but he hasn't been explored at all (yet), and the one from Batman: Ninja, who was okay but not great. What "other versions" were you thinking of?
I love how Jason seems to be the most normal one here, he basically watched his dad die but he heals from it with the right support. He slowly goes from cynical to actually taking it to heart with those pep talks, and he eventually opens up. But he still has those scars, it’s really good stuff and really human. I love stories where mental health can come first.
@@buster3041 DCeased is pretty good with Jason if you haven’t read it yet. But I’m not trying to argue
Citizen: *kills Joker, notorious homicidal mass murderer*
Police: Get on the ground your under arrest!
Citizen: Is this a joke?
Joker: it is a joke
To be fair, Joker HAS used doppelgangers before to misdirect others, often forcing innocent people by threatening them and their loved ones. The fact you just killed a person who happens to look like Joker doesn't mean, in the law's eyes, you have killed the REAL Joker.
@@josegregoriobencomogomez4958 It's still a crime.I don't think these people understand the law system.Is it bullshit?Sure.
But regardless you can't take the law in your hand like that without any trouble.
It's still unauthorised murder,by law he should call the police or arrest him and leave him for them
@@utoresa5193 He was within 5 feet of the Joker. That's grounds for self defense as he clearly feared for his life.
You couldn't find a jury in gotham to convict him...
This was so satisfying to see and why I like Jason so much as a character. He's the only one in the Bat family with the balls to kill the Joker.
Dude, have you learned nothing from Batman??? Batman has got the
balls NOT to kill Joker. Jason lacks the strength to fight that urge.
Interesting character though, agreed.
@@thegreenmercenary Yeah. I totally get that ideology but given all the fucked up shit the Joker has done to Gotham and members of the Bat-family, I agree with Jason and his anger towards Bruce and the Joker.
Damian would totally kill the Joker, and frankly so would Terry McGuiness in that situation, considering he killed Blight for killing his father.
@@thegreenmercenary that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 And Terry isn't one to really...Hold back.
Unlike Bruce he didn't get traumatized by watching his parents get gunned down in an alley, he came home to find his father dead from what turned out to be an ASSASSINATION.
Of course he isn't the sort who will hold back.
Why this scene is a masterpiece?
1. Jason calling Dick "big brother"
2. "Bat crap"
3. 2:25 this made me fall from where I'm sitting. Did he just call Joker "Friend"?
4. That voice change starting 2:45? Talk about creepy but genius. That background music is also right on point it just sent chills down my spine
5. "I'll tell the big man you said hello"
Oh Jason, I just melted.
Fuckong good scene and especially the music to really settle the tome and feeling
6. “Boy wonder” Joker said with the grin on his face.
On point 3, he didn't know that was Joker until he started telling the joke he told Batman.
"I'll tell the big man you said, hello." Such an epic one liner
I love the reference to Killing Joke but I believe Mark Hamill said it better
Me too
I agree
nah I prefer this version. The whole killing joke film was disappointing compared to the comic.
Isn’t this hamil doing joker again?
@@duellegend71 No it's John Dimaggo.
dammmmmnnnn. Crazy. I like this ending. Its a fitting end for Joker. And for Jason. I always wondered what would happen if Jason actually killed him. This is better than i could’ve ever imagined
This is straight up how he dies in Dark Knight Returns, just different context
Dies laughing with a blade in his eyeball
3:47
Music: calming
Jason: next time i'll see him, i'll tell him you said "hello"
Joker: *remembers and realizes* Boy... Wonder... *smiles*
Video: ending
Me: oh, this aint a joker dead ending, this isn't actually that bad, maybe joker turned a new leaf without bats after all--
Jason: *suddenly stabs Joker in the eye*
Me: oh-- wait no, i was wrong, there it is, there's the catch-- oh dear lord god
I’m dead 😂😂😂😂🤡
Btw Jason says "next time I see him I'll tell the big man hello"
@Mike Perez No he’s still crazy, he just is good as acting and fitting in with the rest of the world, they could do a physiological test and they’d find him sane.
Joker tells Jason the joke he told Batman in Killing Joke, but he tells it closer to how it's said in the original book than Mark Hamill did.
When Joker realized it was Jason, you can tell he was already getting some sadistic ideas
I’ve always thought that if Bruce was to ever die in the comics Jason would be the Jokers replacement for Bruce since he’s the one with the most history with besides Bruce.
@@jre_esco7379 I just watched this again realized something. The way Joker spoke. He actually quit the clown prince shtick. He doesn't see a point without batman. Until he realized it was Jason and then he was joker again
"Holy bat crap!" xD
"Holy bat crap, Dick again!" Mmmm, that and "black mask was barbeque." Are my two favorite lines in this movie.
edit: Holy nuggets, that be a lot of like there.
What scene was the 2nd quote from?
@@MsMajin from the movie and another video
@@MsMajin if I recall, it was said on the news in the movie after Jason went on a killing spree as red Robin. I believe, I don't exactly remember.
Before that, "I never thought Jason would outright said even in his head, big brother Dick. "
I’ve been trying to look for the name if this movie for a while now can you please tell me what it is called?
This is probably my favorite ending
But they could have done it better getting stab in the eye won't kill a man
İts not a ending
This isn’t an ending guy
@@davidspearim5552 that knife went all the way through his head what you talking about?
@@davidspearim5552 It does if you use the whole knife to do it
I can't stop rewatching this scene... its literal perfection. The smile... that damn smile... "...Boy Wonder... :D"
Its just so unfortunate so many people will miss out on this scene because they didn't get the interactive version of the movie.
This scene is a literal masterpiece so cinematic and filled with nuance.
Damn..that was the quickest police response I've ever seen in a Batman movie lol.
Actually if you keep an eye out for them they're sitting in the diner during an establishing shot.
Man john dimaggio is a natural of saying that killing joke and as much as possible not try to mimic of how mark hamill does it.
He is definitely in the top 5
Hold the phone, isn’t that the same diner from the beginning of Arkham Knight?
Nah, in the game there are two sections of tables
No this is the LEGO version
It actually reminds me of the diner in season 2 of Young Justice
It may look different in design, but yeah. It is generally the same diner. So far as I know there's only one diner in Gotham that's generally used in most of the stories, and I'm pretty sure the one they're in is Pauli's Diner.
Yeah
I still love how Jason seemed so very nice at first
Jason is a nice guy overall just a bad temper, Damien is the robin that stays angry (well atleast most times)
@@prodeyj1 Jason has always had a reasonable temper. He just snaps at certain people who have done EXTREME harms. Dick is also hot tempered but fans refuse to call him that
@@nic558 i see, I thought his temper was a little bit over the top because of his actions as Robin back when he was robin
@@prodeyj1 Exactly. As Robin he’s only seen losing his temper with some criminals. DC loves to ONLY focus on that rather than to flesh out how he’s helped other kids like him. His soft spot for women. Especially women who working certain jobs that leave them at the mercy of criminals. Also do you even remember how Dick treated Jason. He’s very mellow to his other brothers Tim and Damian because he knows he really fucked up big time by taking out part of his anger & frustration with Bruce at Jason. He only had Bruce and Alfred to lean on and Jay could barely bring himself to trust them. Kind of weird how they always brush that over
@@nic558 i didn't know that with nightwing, I thought he was the same with todd as well
That moment when Joker realises. Genuinely terrifying!
Si this confirms that Batman didn’t kill joker in the killing joke
It is more of a what if story
@@MW2proification ahh okay thanks
This is a interactive movie. Not canon. What if movie
This is a bit of a issue with comics. Due to the time, number of writers and different interpretations both official and fan, the idea of a coherent history is difficult to pin down.
In this particular interpretation yes. In others no.
All in all it comes down to what people feel is cannon. Or what is made cannon within a contained pocket universe of the Batman mythos. Its the same issue with Greek mythology, Arthurian legends or different telling's of Romance of the Three Kingdoms: when something goes on for so long everyone has their take.
I mean if something is going to have a past, it might as well be multiple choice?
The canonicity of The Killing Joke is messy. Clearly, Joker did cripple Barbara in the canon. But, the story itself appears to be non-canon. Although, I don't think he killed the Joker in that story. It would weird for Batman to go from "Let me help you." to "I'm going to break your neck.".
shows that without Batman Joker jas no reason to be Joker
My God the slow burn with the killing joke revealing who it is is absolutely insane
Can you get an Academy Award for voice-acting? Because this the THIRD time I’ve watched this and John DiMaggio’s delivery gets more spectacular every time!
This'll always annoy me about Joker. In a city like Gotham where the Joker had murdered hundreds and escaped so many times, I'm pretty sure the police would look the other way if someone killed the Joker.
it is already incredible the joker was never executed by any cop, one of his goons, another gotham criminal with more powers, any of the other heroes or anti heroes that actually kills, or even took a life imprisonment sentence or was sent to death row.
Would have been nice to see this ending, but the interactive part of it doesn’t work on digital
Yea I decided to rent it on psn but ugh all I got are recap and 4 stories I've admired but already seen.
Where can I get the movie to get the interactive part instead of the other dc stories?
@@markos8972 I heard you have to buy the blue ray but I could be wrong.
@@malanala7371 i just rent the movie on youtube but is so disappointing. Is only a flashback of under the red hood and 4 chapters of another things that im not even interested in. I feel cheated lmao
The digital gave me 5 or 6 short movies they were dope tho
Looks like Joker just had his last laugh
When he started saying the joke I got chills
Let’s just appreciate what a masterpiece of story telling that was.
The music just makes this scene so much more chilling.
How could those guys not see THE CLEARLY WHITE SKIN AND MANIACAL LAUGH ON THAT GUY'S FACE?
Are you referring to the cops? Doesn’t change that Jason just slammed a butter knife through someone’s eye socket. Murdering a murderer is still murder.
they are american cops not very intelligent
They're really, really open-minded when it comes to accepting that living in a free country means not arresting every deranged clown laughing maniacally in a diner at 3 AM.
@Dr. Fucking Bright no it's just called homicide.
@Dr. Fucking Bright What are you talking about? Hitler killed himself, and Stalin passed away? Bin laden attempted to shoot back and got hole-punched.
damn this is so good! The Killing Joke Reference, Joker’s lack of motivation being a crime lord bc batman is dead, Jason realizing he’s talking to the mad man himself, definitely want to watch this movie
It was a butter knife too
what movie is this?
John DiMaggio is an underrated Joker
This makes me happy for Jason in so many ways
Something about this animation reminds me so much of Satoshi Kon. The way the animation lingers but still snaps quickly with action. The way the hand reaches for the knife in one seemingly smooth, calculated motion.
*Crazy murderer villain kills hundreds*
Cops: I sleep
*Hero guy kills crazy murderer villain*
Cops: FBI OPEN UP!!!
Police are useless just like reality.
"Jason is still hurting"
Makes you wonder, even w batman around. After like the 5th time of escaping, the cops would probably just shoot the joker
No, Batman’s dead in this one.
all the more reason for the cops to shoot the joker!
Honestly for real... people would get fed up enough with certain villains and just take one for the team.
That sounds like an intersting batman premise. The usual women screams, batman begins descending in the shadows and before he can get there. Bang-bang, and the robber is down. See how it would mess with batmans tempo so to speak, how he would respond after that. Like I could imagine him taking the thug to a hospital since he can get him there faster than an ambulance
What I like about this scene is the first time the Joker tells that joke, its after Batman offers to get him help. But the Joker declines. And now, as he's telling it the second time, he's actually trying to rehabilitate himself. Or... was.
This Joker's death resembles the one in the Dark Knight Returns
1) Those cops are idiots. He killed the Joker.
2) That was the best Joker joke i've heard in a while.
1) Yes there idiots
2) the joke is the last joke he told batman at the end of the Killing joke story. In the story it was joker attempt to show some sort of sanity towards batman almost as if he making an effort to connect with batman. however the moral of the joke is that the insane guy will fall no matter if he belived the other guy will not cut off the light i.e the joker will be joker even if he accepts batman help to end it
@@michaelsantamaria3053
I see that.
joke makes no sense. It's supposed to be a metaphor for the two than an actual joke.
Did those cops not realize he just killed the Joker and not an ordinary man!?
@@Gadget-Walkmen
Well you don't have the sense of humor for it.
i couldnt stop laughing when he got annoyed at nightwing
Lol. holy bat carp.dick again.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Damn the last part, the way the Joker died kind of reminds me of this one scene from Batman the Dark Knight Returns part 2
The one where he snapped his own neck i belive and he did that to make people belive bats is dangerous and needs to stop
@@buffalo2344 The theory that I think is better is the one where Batman kills Joker. Hearing that dialogue from that scene really puts it together.
@@KingBurger52 yeah but what i was suggesting was that in the darknight returns part 2 batman fight a already wounded joker inside a love tunnel course and like in this scene jokers right eye was stabbed by a batarang and in the end batman almost kills joker by choking him but decides to not following that joker says a few words to batman then snaps his own neck while laughing like a maniac these two scenes are hella similar and well after joker snapped his neck the goverment SPOILER WARNING!!! send superman to take down batman hence the animated movie batman v superman where in the end batman beats superman but he staged a heart attack to make the world think he is dead and from there he starts training some people to fight crime like him
@@buffalo2344 You can't snap ur own neck. Batman kill him but allusinated Joker did it to his own self.
@SuperVince93Kaioken Yep, both Jason and Bruce kill Joker, except Bruce suppressed his own action.
Like he said in “under the red hood”, he’s not talking about killing any other villains, it just Joker.
Then he goes on a massive rampage killing all other villians right after.
The movie is called Batman : death in the family
that answer is terrible, after years i only realised there's multiple endings, i thought this was a sequel to "redhood" but its a sh!ttt interactive dvd with multiple endings
When he stabs him in the eye it’s so satisfying. Jason deserves to kill joker, more than anyone else
Joker kills Batman and Jason gets payback killing Joker for Batman
But batman didnt take revenge
but Jason is not Batman
@@TeivTv Legendary
Fitting what Jason said about if Jason and Batman's positions were switched that fateful day...He would not stop until Joker was sent to hell.
Sudden insanity due to seeing a monster in person justifies this
3:40 - 3:52 - from that conversation alone. With flashbacks...and Joker reawakening with a smile in that diner not realizing it was Jason. Creepy AF. Good job animation team. 😂
Loved the Killing Joke reference tough
*¿WHY THEY ARREST HIM, THAT WAS JOKER, THAT IS PERFECTLY SELF DEFENSE*
Jason made the first move, and thus was the attacker.
@@christiancrusader9374 BUT IT WAS JOKER, THE WORST MURDERER IN PROBABLY ALL THE COUNTRY
@@ArcTrooper269 I'd like to think they'll have to let him get off easy, considering a lawyer can argue he panicked. Although then there's the issue that Jason's supposed to be dead.
@@christiancrusader9374 *NOT IN THIS REALITY*
@@ArcTrooper269 What do you mean?
When Joker said “tell the big man I said hello” I think he was talking about somebody else, not Batman
I mean who else would be "the big man" to Robin?
@@OneKind671
You could say God. Not that he believes. But think about it: joker wasn’t being literal with what he said. Jason can’t say hello to Batman when he’s dead. So he could have just used God as a figure of speech to mean that Jason’s about to die. It’s a kill joke. Not to mention his “be in bed by 9” line. 9 as in 9 seconds
@@aaromotivestudio3869 lol. When he said to tell the big man he said hello,I'm sure the hello was meant to be Jason's death so batman could find his body as a hello. Get it?
@@OneKind671
That’s also a probability. In any case, it points to Jason dying.
It's a play on Jason's death by joker. It is how he died basicly. When Joker killed him before and left, before the explosion, he told Jason to "Tell the big man I said Hello" I think the line was there to let Joker know who it was he was talking to before Jason killed him
Now that 3 jokers is out we know that this joker isn’t the joker who paralyzed babs
That was the comedian right?
This is different it isn’t the comics there is only one joker in this
Nah. This the joker in this universe. And besides, Jason still kills the Joker anyway you look at it. It felt real good to see that panel.
Considering the idea of the three Jokers is very new, chances are most interpritations will keep it all being one guy
@James F i get what you mean. It feels like it cheapens what he does.
Holy SHIT! They connect this movie to the killing joke.🤯🤯🤯🤯
Joker still laughing even in his dying moments was AMAZING!
I actually realized after rewatching the scene
At first glance it seems crazy for the cops to arrest Jason for killing Joker
But now I realize that Joker was in disguise, at first glance it looked like to bystanders and off duty police officers that Jason killed a random man, and they were doing their duty in stopping him
Although some of the endings suggest otherwise how it turned out, my realization still explains the situation
Killing Joke reference but also TDKR. Joker stabbed in the eye, dying laughing on the floor.
That knife swipe was clean af
“At least what I write in my journal my therapist said it’ll help.” We know what that referance is from
Good catch.
See, the impressive thing to me here is that Jason sat there and listened, realized, planned, and executed, all without a single twitch or out of place breath, not after the realization. Joker's realization came after, though, so the one flinch he did have went under the radar. Frankly, all this in mind...Jason is terrifying.