Stu is very humble. Finding a "quality" Piano Salesperson should have been high on that list because not everyone has a TH-cam Video to follow, to remember, and or become lost in space trying to research on their own. We were in a different Category than this video's primary focus in that my daughter was just getting started. The Salesperson at Merriam was so awesome explaining a very similar process as Stu did here, only tailored for a new Student.
Wow, hearing the German and the Japanese pianos back-to-back, I would have never guessed the differences to be that stark. Obviously the Kawai and Yamaha are more than half price of the Bechstein, but I can clearly hear why. My absolute favourite was the Bechstein A-124, but I also liked the Seiler.
I definitely agree with that sentiment that the piano chooses you in a way. Congrats on your C. Bechstein 116K! The C. Bechstein pianos are amongst the most expressive and musical instruments in the world. I know you will be thrilled with it for many years to come. :)
You always do an amazing job explaining the intricacies of the subject at hand in your videos. I’m not a piano player but love piano music and the whole subject of pianos from history to modern advances in manufacturing is fascinating. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us through these high quality presentations!
Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in and support our channel! We sincerely appreciate it. I'll certainly pass on your kind words to Stu on your behalf. :)
Great educational video. Anyone looking to buy an upright would be well advised to start with this video. I cannot agree more about the size aspect and especially the consideration about the room it is to go into. A large upright producing a lot of sound would be overpowering in a small room, say a study, especially if it has little in the way of furnishings (e.g. wooden floor instead of carpet, blinds instead of curtains). Watch the video, take notes then start visiting showrooms, ideally those with a good range of pianos. When visiting showrooms, however, be aware that the acoustics in the showroom can have a huge impact upon your listening experience. You will need to bear this in mind if you then visit other showrooms.
Thanks so much for tuning in and for the excellent advice to our community! It is very true that the room a piano is played in will colour the sound. Furthermore, finding an appropriate volume and tonal profile for a particular room size is also important. Thanks again and all the best!
Really well presented. This closely mirrors the thought process that I went through last year to buy my upright except that resale value was not an issue for me since I was looking for a "keeper". I must say I am extremely happy with my purchase (Hoffmann T122) so the advice in this video is spot on in my opinion. I really appreciated the professionalism of the Merriam sales representative who, after hearing what I was looking for, steered me to several suitable options at a range of price points from slightly below my stated budget to somewhat above and allowed me to spend quite a bit of time alone trying them out. Exerting absolutely no pressure to go for the most expensive piano in the range, they truly seemed to want to help me pick a piano which fit my musical preferences and budget. Couldn't be happier ! :-)
Gabitthemaygar I also bought a Hoffmann many years ago, but I doubt that it is the same manufacturer, as I stay in South Africa. I was told that it is a piano built for schools and churches, but it had a great sound for many years. Recently my piano tuner told me that the base board is bent and that he will not tune it as it wont last, and that it would be best to buy another piano. I am heart broken, as I play my piano every day and buying another one is not an option. I will play it till the last notes fade away
Your way of giving informations in your videos is great and helped me a lot this year when i was upgrading my kawai ca49 to a fridolin schimmel f121. I am in year 2 of my life with pianos and i enjoy your videos before or after practicing. And whats really great is your way of dealing with different arguments. You are not staight saying buy this oder this, this is bad, this is good. You help people building their own opionion and especially in this times when everbody thinks his opinion ist the only one , it is a pleasure to see this way of presentation
That is awesome to hear! Congrats on scoring a great deal on a K300! They're wonderful instruments. I'm sure it will serve you well musically for many years to come!
Purchased a W. Hoffmann T122 today. Your videos were extremely helpful in making this decision. It's not a C8 and it is not exactly inexpensive, but the value for the money is the best we have found. Thank you for all of your work to educate us on upright pianos.
That was certainly the better choice over the Fidolin Schimmel. Hoffmann and Bechstein are located just miles away across the border and integration between both companies is fairly high. Schimmel had a hard time in the last years and eventually was sold to Pearl River. The Czech Republic has a history of piano manufacturing for over 100 years, but no such experience exists in Poland. Bechstein has invested a lot of money into its companies on both sides of the border in the last years, unlike any other German piano manufacturer, as most are struggling. Hoffmann has come a long way in the last years. I just heard Stu's presentation of the T 122 and it has an amazing sound. Good choice!
The sound of schimmel just blown me away. I own an upright grand kawai and budget is very important. We are not coming from a rich family and I paid that myself with my hard savings. Check out the BL-71 edition made directly in Japan. It’s one of the best piano I’ve own yet.
Always learn something new after waiting your videos. Specially acoustic pianos reviews. The way you explain it’s very easy to understand for any piano buyers. I am also a piano specialist and I have learnt many good things which I was not so aware. Your reviews help me a lot to sell pianos and I am now super confident to guide or convince any type of customers. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable knowledge and spending time to make a piano reviews. I consider you as my guru ( Teacher ). 🙏 In 2022 I’ll hope to see more brands reviews like Feurich/Sautar/Hailun and many more. ❤️
Funny I owned two of those models last year (a C.Bechstein Academy A124, and a Ritmüller UH). Both are indeed fine instruments. The key weighting on the C.Bechstein was perfectly graded - which you would expect from a handmade piano.
Yep, another outline for an exhaustive database that will wrap this up in smartphone-friendly searchable form. The editing game has stepped up, I see 2022 as a year of growth for the visual attractiveness of your materials. Awesome music + well-edited video = dream come true for someone who wants's to sharpen their show-biz skills, both for camera-man and for performer :) Stu, in the new year, I wish to you and to us to get a little piece performed in the best sounding patch (or two) of a given instrument. Describe an instrument with its vibe, as your musical impression of it (as you started lately -> "sound demos"). This should give us a wonderful and entertaining year, can not wait for those weekends :) It seems like everything comes together nicely, wonder who you gonna invite to argue with musically... (playing on 4 hands)?
I believe that rigid key/high resistance key is the best if anyone want their kids to develop proper finger formation as well as develop finger strength & sensitivity (when they're applying what I call "emotional dynamics"). Children who learned basics on soft keys have tendency to do a flat hand instead of the proper curve hand formation which gives more control to the finger in doing either a soft strike or hard strike in the keys; as well as they have tendency to have the pinky points upward (I would refer to as pianist version of exorcist). Besides a pianist that can play on a rigid piano well enough will excels in a soft key piano, while one who uses a soft keys will never be able to adapt to all different kind of piano. (According to my piano teacher)
Really an exceptional presentation, I have a very good idea about buying upright piano. I wish I had it when I bought my piano, I was lucky I choose a terrific piano with out the knowledge.Thanks
Thanks so much! We appreciate it. I am also happy to hear that you wound up with an excellent piano that suits your needs and inspires your playing! :)
I think there is another factor that needs to be added to the list that has in fact nothing to do with the instrument itself: what does the room look like where you want to place the instrument? Is it large or small, is there a wooden floor or a carpet, how high is the ceiling, are there dry-walls or solid construction (stone, concrete), is there a lot of furniture, are there neighbours to be considered? An instrument will sound radically different depending on the environment. A very large, powerful instrument like a Yamaha U 3 might be unsuitable for small rooms and rented apartments as these workhorses are simply too loud. A very bright instrument might shine in a muffled environment full of carpets, sofas and curtains, but could be too sharp in a minimalist's converted warehouse with high ceilings and an industry-style concrete floorboard. The piano doesn't have to sound great in the shop but at home, wherever that is. So I think anyone should bring photos from his home to the piano dealer.
Important for an upright: Features! Other then grands where recommendable silence or self playing systems are only available at the super high end, most uprights can be equipped with these systems in adequate quality. You should consider them, as they extent the possibilities of the piano a lot without compromising on its quality as a acoustical instrument. If you have a grand, a second upright piano is of repetition or night time practice - then a silence system is paramount - or go for a electric right away.
It is certainly a very good point. For players that have noise restrictions and limitations, silent and digital systems can be incredibly useful and a very worthwhile investment. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your insights! :)
I agree with earlier posts suggesting features like silencing abilities or things like Yamaha’s TransAcoustic would be a valuable addition to this video in order to know which brands even offer such things.
I would love to see a video on the Bosendorfer 130. Do you think it’s worth the price premium over the Bechstein concert 6/8? What do you think of the Mason and Hamlin model 50?
Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! These are all wonderful, top-tier pianos. When dealing with instruments of this ilk, it really comes down to musical preference. Every one of these models will have its own unique musical identity. For me, the Bechstein Concert C8 is the apex of upright pianos. To my ears, its power, expressivity, and musical capabilities are unparalleled. It is all very subjective in the end though.
Imho, I would start looking for an upright at around Kawai K200. I wouldn't bother with the Ritmuller and Pearl River. For the same money or less you xan get excellent digitals which makes me feel much much better, such as Roland LX series or Kawai Ca series.
I recently played a Kawai K200 and a CA79. The CA79 is inferior in tone to the K200, not as colorful, which is expected. Although it contains the Shigeru Kawai sample, its speaker system can't make it justice. Despite being the smallest Kawai upright piano, it still sounds better than those elaborate digital pianos. By the way, all Kawai digital pianos, including the Novus NV5S and NV10S, are made in Indonesia. The K200 is also made in Indonesia, as well as the GL10 and GL20 grand pianos.
@@Instrumental-Covers I agree. Kawai K200 is a lovely little piano. I also agree with your comments about GL 10 & 20, though I must say I felt quite a big difference with GL 30 when I had tried them. GL 30 is a proper beast. I had also tried a number of Pearl rivers and Ritmullers. I couldn't seem to extract piano and pianissimo ranges from those pianos. They only seemed to have mezzo forte to fortissimo range. Maybe it is just me but I didn't like neither their sounds nor their actions. For digitals, lately I have started enjoying the Rolands a lot. Both soundwise and actionwise.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We appreciate it. I definitely know what you mean. Many pianists dream of owning an amazing C. Bechstein piano. My fingers are crossed that dream becomes a reality for you soon! :)
We have had many Baldwin 6000 pianos come through our showrooms used. They are wonderful, reliable pianos! They have a powerful tone and excellent tuning stability. They are still quite popular and don't tend to last too long when they hit our showroom floors.
Yesterday I signed the offer for a brand new Schimmel C121 matte black. I tested the Yamaha U1 but the Schimmel was way better suited for me. Now gotta wait 4 months to get it :( first acoustic piano, right now I have a P-515, but playing grand pianos at music school.
Stu, would you say that new uprights typically have stiff actions until they are worn in? It's so long since I knowingly played a new'ish upright, but I tried an upright recently which almost broke my fingers. I'm guessing it wasn't worn in. Replies welcome from all viewers.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for taking the time to check out our channel and write in! For a smaller apartment, a console piano (44" or less) or a studio upright (45" to 47") would likely be a suitable choice. There are also hybrid acoustic pianos, which allow you to play with headphones quietly when needed.
@@MerriamPianos ， thank you very much for the direction. I Am doing research buying guides and came across this channel, it helps me learn a lot about some basics of pianos. What a great channel 👏
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! We periodically get Petrof pianos come in used on trade-in at our showrooms and they are wonderful pianos through-and-through. The P118 is no exception. It has an excellent, musical voice and the quality of craftsmanship is evident in every detail of the instrument.
Oh, I HATE YAMAHA not only for the key shape but most especially for it's key action. The music school I studied have a Yamaha Grand Piano as One of it's 4 Recital Piano. I HATE playing classical piano piece that has multiple "emotional dynamics" like for example Fur Elise where there's a sad chorus, a fun hopeful 2nd part & an angry 3rd part. Hitting a Yamaha key soft or hard just sound the same. Even when my teacher demonstrate how it should be done, it makes no different. There's a saying among fellow students "on classical music, don't blame the pianist...blame Yamaha." The best piano action for any music including classical, in my opinion, is Steinway Piano. (But they say it's tuning/maintenance is more expensive then Yamaha, that's why it's being used only for 4-hand piece, not on solo)
@@yokikokudou We are talking about upright piano here. I should have use "honest" instead of "accurate". The Yamaha action is heavier than other counterparts and for me it gives a bit more control. I'm a beginner, not a professional pianist neither a classical one. So far, I don't play pieces that requires ppp. But I'm playing almost everthing except jazz and blues.
@@michelprimeau4531 I know we're here for the upright but based on my personal experience, I notice a manufacturer usually maintain consistent signature key resistance. I've once tested a Yamaha Upright in a showroom & it's just the same with the Yamaha Grand at school. That was when my father bought me a piano & I did not choose Yamaha. The school I went to have a Steinway upright & grand. Both have the similar key action as well. Teachers would recommend rigid key action but hey, if it's not for public performance & you're decided for soft key action; most of Stu's Suggestions are Soft Keys. I'm just not into Yamaha's Acoustic Piano, whether upright or grand because, just like you, I find there's really something annoying with it!!!
@@yokikokudou I don't know if it's funny or sad but I thinking to buy a used Yamaha U3 despite everything I said. At the end of next summer, I'm changing my piano no matter what. My budget would be around 6000 to 9000$ firm. Prices are ramping up with the inflation and the K300 is getting out of reach. So, I was hesitating between a Kawai K200 or ND21. I've tried them again recently and I was disappointed. Zimmerman piano might be an option. Like I said, the square keys found on the Yamaha B3 annoys me. But quality wise, I think that buying a pre-owned U3 would be a great alternative for the next 5 years. I could collect additionnal money to go after a W.Hoffman in 5 years. In 5 years, the U3 will go from 6000 to 5000$. I could easily trade it and get a maximum return.
Oh by the way, with public performance, I mean playing with a piano teacher that is breathing down your neck or an audience of strangers just watching to criticize. Any piano you're comfortable with is good enough if you're playing for your family & friends, even for a church choirs. I find church choirs the most open-minded & appreciative audience.
Hi Jenny! Brent from Merriam Music here! We're happy to hear that you enjoyed the video. There are a number of factors to consider when choosing a piano (budget, sonic needs/restrictions, aesthetic preferences, size limitations, regional availability, etc.). So, with that said, it is difficult to make suggestions without more context. We do have some excellent review and comparison videos and video guides that should help provide more direction for you. :)
Hi! I'm searching for an acoustic piano but I have to deal with neighbours, so I need a silent piano and, when not in silent mode, it shouldn't be big. You said in the video that size is very important and your advice is to buy a piano at least 47inches tall due to the bass extension and the dynamics. I'd like to ask you if the piano size affects the only bass dynamics (an depth) or the complete sound range. Would a 43" piano be so bad that doesn't make sense to buy one for a student (2 years level)? I ask you this because I'm considering buying a Yamaha JU109 (or B1) silent, and it is only 43" tall. I'd appreciate any comments, thanks!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! While 47" or taller is recommended given the longevity they provide, at the end of the day, the 'right' piano is the one that checks off all the boxes for you. This includes, features/functions, aesthetics, price point, and more. A 43" silent piano could very well be an excellent choice for your needs. The silent functionality can have a lot of value if it enables more practice time. With that said, when playing acoustically, there will be certain limitations with a shorter piano when it comes to tonal and dynamic range. With that said, you can always upgrade down the road when the time comes. :)
Uprights. One of the more "odd" instruments on so many levels. Bought for the oddest reasons. Placed where they shouldn't (against a wall for it's life). With the lid closed. Oddly and surprisingly that happens with many grands. Where owners place them against a wall because it looks best there. And leave the lid closed the majority of the time. Placing picture frames or whatever on the lid. :) On hardwood or other hard surfaces. Because they don't want dust to get in jthe workings of the piano. :)
Hi! Brent here! I would have to check in with Stu as to what piece he is playing at that moment. It is quite beautiful though! Perhaps, one of our helpful community members here will know the answer. :)
My biggest complaint about upright pianos is: the piano case. It engulfs the soundboard, which is allowed to breathe only against a wall. The amount of sound wave reflections inside that case and against a wall is horrendous. That is why they sound the way the sound: kind of nasal and compressed. Some upright pianos have been built with "speaker grills" or openings to let the sound come out, but it cannot match the sound radiation pattern of a grand piano. A grand piano is like an open baffle speaker design with the speaker membrane (soundboard) sitting about half way of those 16" or so of rim depth... which would be the equivalent in speaker design of a shallow H-frame open baffle speaker (considering the ratio between the size of a soundboard and the depth of the rim). Now go back to the upright piano: it is the equivalent of putting a speaker driver inside a wooden box and placing it against the wall. You are guaranteed to get all sorts of nasty wave reflections inside the box (which is why speakers use poly fillers and are made of non-resonant plywood or MDF, sometimes metal in high end speakers like Wilson Audio). Open baffle speakers don't need to fight resonances inside a box, which would color the sound. Likewise, an upright piano case will color the sound, or at least will not allow the soundboard to achieve full expression.
@@stevenreed5786 I agree. That will improve the sound for sure. However, the pattern radiation still has a number of shortcomings: all that sound is directed at you, which can be pretty loud and annoying. The lack of lid means the sound can't be directed at the audience, unless they sit behind you or in front of you, in both cases they can't see you directly. Also, the piano will not look nice if you strip it of its case. Grand pianos are hard to beat when it comes to sound radiation: the audience can see you, the sound is not in your face all the time and yet it is very clear, there is no sound wave compression by an enclosed case, it looks much more elegant than an upright.
I'am an advanced player and interested in buying an upright piano...the Grotrian g113...I have a small flat and don't need volume...what's your opinion?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! The Grotrian G113 is a gorgeous piano and one of the finest console upright pianos you will find on the market. If you are looking for the finest tonal quality and craftsmanship in a smaller package, it is an excellent choice for a smaller space. With that said, musical preferences are a very personal and subjective thing, so it is always recommended to spend some time on the piano at a showroom to ensure that you personally connect with the musical experience it provides. :)
@@MerriamPianos thank you very much for your attention...so as you say it's an excellent instrument...my doubt is that when I'll increase my speed of execution, such as chopin 1st etude op 10, the action and repetition will answer in a good way...i've played the piano and it sounds very well and i feel very comfortable with touchness...but what will happen when playing speedy pieces?
Shorter german uprights (bechstein, grotrian, seiler, schimmel, august forester, bluthner) sound to me way better than taller japanese or chinese uprights. Size doesn't always matter.
Agreed, sometimes it comes down to the wood / construction German uprights are using, they (shorted ones) might even match a grand piano's base quality sometimes
I am always wondering how big the houses of those who pay so much attention to the loudness of the tone, must be. I am being forced to play using headphones most of the time and my digital piano has only 60W of power. I still believe that only hybrid pianos make sense in typical homes or apartments. Touch or action is what matters. I think that for most people, the sound (especially when recording) can be addressed by piano sound modelling (VSTs).
It is not about the loudness of the tone, but about the quality of the tone. Speakers have a direct impact in how rich, expansive, full, and expressive the tone will sound. Larger speaker systems play better even a lower volume. To give you an example: I have built many speaker systems for digital pianos, and the ones with a better presence use 15" full range drivers, similar to audiophile-grade open baffle speakers. I don't play them loud, but they just fill the room with far more authority than small speakers because their larger cones move more air. I just listened to your practice uploads with the Roland FP90X. I see why you emphasize piano action. If you are learning to play, then action is more important than sound. But if you were looking into expressing yourself to a small audience, let's say to entertain a few friends in your own home, then the action is not that important, as you should be able to handle a slightly deficient action (assuming you have a certain level of mastery of the piano). Then a digital piano with a more authentic tone and speaker system capable of allowing you to express your creativity and artistry will be more important. I will summarize it this way: for learning and practice, action over tone. For expressing yourself to others, tone over action.
@@Instrumental-Covers Good points. I agree with you. I will never play for any audience LOL Ps. I use my home audio system (pretty high end) if I want a bigger sound - I use Pianoteq.
@@mfurman May I ask which speakers do you have at home? I have been building speaker systems exclusively for digital pianos and nothing else for several years as a hobby, and I yet have to find a home speaker system that beats what I have built in the past. I once emailed Martin Logan, which is a premium audiophile speaker company, if they had any speaker system that could be used to amplify a digital piano. They said: NO. They added, "But for you home stereo and home theater needs, please don't hesitate to contact us". That is an honest answer, which made me respect them. They admitted they DON'T have a speaker system for digital pianos. I had before some of the best Polk speakers out there, and they sounded horrible for digital pianos. In my experience, home speakers are built for a general purpose music, and are not dedicated, calibrated and designed specifically for digital pianos, or piano sounds like Pianoteq.
@@Instrumental-Covers They are not very high end and powerful speakers but sound good, I think - they are Monitor Audio Silver RX1 and I use Regards Brio amplifier. You could add the centre speaker or subwoofer. I tried Yamaha HS7 recently but I prefer Monitor Audio setup. It all very much depends on the acoustics of your room.
@@mfurman Oh... I think we talked about your speakers in another post... maybe I am mixing things up... but I remember looking up similar speakers, specifically the Bronze series. Did you recently update your speakers from the Bronze series to the Silver? I can't say how your speakers sound, but I will make a guess here: they are meant for "home" sound, which typically will have a warm midrange signature. And THAT is a piano sound killer for somebody (like myself) looking for a live piano sound. A live piano sound will sound "harsh" in the sense that the speakers are putting the sound in your face. Real pianos put the sound in your face, even warm pianos do that. The Yamaha HS7 is a flat speaker with a clear midrange, and most people will probably dislike that sound because they are so used to a "home sound", meaning the midrange is subdued, kind of scooped out, favoring the mid-bass and excessive treble content. I describe home speakers as "rainy sound", because of their inherent lack of clarity for live purposes. It makes for a more relaxing sound, but with less detail. Pianos are very midrange-oriented instruments. It is unlikely that your speakers (I could be wrong) have the level of clarity and precision in the midrange to make a piano sound live. But they can make a piano sound "nice". Now, nice and live are not the same. I am willing to bet that you have achieved the type of sound most people in this channel are happy with, which seems to be a "home speaker" type of sound: warm midrange, good bass. It is a "make me feel good" type of sound. That type of sound will not cut in a live venue. It will not bring a digital piano to "I am here" type of sound. The contrast will be particularly evident if you have the opportunity to listen to both varieties of sound back and forth.
Action over tone? Or tone over action? Which is more important? Stu makes the case here for tone over action, whereas in his own digital piano videos he makes the case for action over tone. This is my take on this issue: if you are learning piano or need to practice long hours using a digital piano and play with headphones, then action over tone. But if you already have a command of the piano and you are looking to entertain an audience, then tone over action. If you can play already, you should be able to handle different action feels. Pianists are presented with all sorts of pianos on stage, they don't have the luxury of using what they want all the time. All pianos feel different. And the audience will be listening to the piano tone for sure. The statements made on the digital piano videos that action is more important than tone seems to stem from the assumption that people using a digital piano (particularly a plastic slab piano) at home are just learning piano, probably use headphones for long hours, and need to be comfortable with an action. In that case, action is more important. But for a musician seeking to entertain an audience, tone is likely more important. After all, the audience is listening.
A proper instrument is instrumental (no pun intended!) in a student's development. In addition to the inspiration an acoustic upright piano will provide, the touch and sonic output of an acoustic piano will help with technical development and expressivity in your playing.
It makes me laugh. No matter the recording, no matter the video, or what it’s being compared against….for me it’s Kawai every time, and nearly always the K-500. What will I do if I finally hear one in person and don’t like it?! 😂
Haha it is natural for everyone's ears to have their preferences! Personally, I really love the warmth that Kawai pianos offer as well. I am quite confident you will be pleased with what you hear when you eventually get a chance to play one in person. ;)
@@MerriamPianos Well that is reassuring, thank you! I am seriously thinking that when tie time comes, I may as well fly back to Ontario and just come visit you guys :P
Scaling is more important than tone/volume. No matter how great the bass sounds and crystal bell tone is the trebble, if the scaling is awful, that piano is dead for me.
Oh so that's why very tall piano sounds scary, must be the powerful bass.😂😜😆🤪🤣 When I was 7(started studying piano young), we would avoid practicing 4-hand piece in that tall upright we call "COFFIN PIANO" unless the teacher who teaches in that is in the room. Even high C sounds so low&sad. Older student would say that the reason it is higher then other pianos in the dept is because there's was dead person inside. Anyway, when my father bought me a piano when I'm in college, I've chosen a piano that is lower then my head level when I'm seated, rigid key touch & brighter tone. 😂😜😆🤪🤣
I am not sure I understand to be honest. The vast majority of actions still use predominantly wood components for the moving parts. Kawai and Mason & Hamlin use ABS carbon-fibre componentry, but they are the exceptions rather than the norm.
This is the best "how to buy an upright piano" presentation I have ever seen
Stu is very humble. Finding a "quality" Piano Salesperson should have been high on that list because not everyone has a TH-cam Video to follow, to remember, and or become lost in space trying to research on their own. We were in a different Category than this video's primary focus in that my daughter was just getting started. The Salesperson at Merriam was so awesome explaining a very similar process as Stu did here, only tailored for a new Student.
Wow, hearing the German and the Japanese pianos back-to-back, I would have never guessed the differences to be that stark. Obviously the Kawai and Yamaha are more than half price of the Bechstein, but I can clearly hear why. My absolute favourite was the Bechstein A-124, but I also liked the Seiler.
thats because of the person tunned the pianos are the same
I bought a Bechstein 116k Millenium in 2020. This small powerhouse outperformed all other pianos in my ears. I tested around 50. The piano choses you.
I definitely agree with that sentiment that the piano chooses you in a way. Congrats on your C. Bechstein 116K! The C. Bechstein pianos are amongst the most expressive and musical instruments in the world. I know you will be thrilled with it for many years to come. :)
You always do an amazing job explaining the intricacies of the subject at hand in your videos. I’m not a piano player but love piano music and the whole subject of pianos from history to modern advances in manufacturing is fascinating. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us through these high quality presentations!
Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in and support our channel! We sincerely appreciate it. I'll certainly pass on your kind words to Stu on your behalf. :)
Great educational video. Anyone looking to buy an upright would be well advised to start with this video. I cannot agree more about the size aspect and especially the consideration about the room it is to go into. A large upright producing a lot of sound would be overpowering in a small room, say a study, especially if it has little in the way of furnishings (e.g. wooden floor instead of carpet, blinds instead of curtains). Watch the video, take notes then start visiting showrooms, ideally those with a good range of pianos. When visiting showrooms, however, be aware that the acoustics in the showroom can have a huge impact upon your listening experience. You will need to bear this in mind if you then visit other showrooms.
Thanks so much for tuning in and for the excellent advice to our community! It is very true that the room a piano is played in will colour the sound. Furthermore, finding an appropriate volume and tonal profile for a particular room size is also important. Thanks again and all the best!
Really well presented. This closely mirrors the thought process that I went through last year to buy my upright except that resale value was not an issue for me since I was looking for a "keeper". I must say I am extremely happy with my purchase (Hoffmann T122) so the advice in this video is spot on in my opinion. I really appreciated the professionalism of the Merriam sales representative who, after hearing what I was looking for, steered me to several suitable options at a range of price points from slightly below my stated budget to somewhat above and allowed me to spend quite a bit of time alone trying them out. Exerting absolutely no pressure to go for the most expensive piano in the range, they truly seemed to want to help me pick a piano which fit my musical preferences and budget. Couldn't be happier ! :-)
Gabitthemaygar I also bought a Hoffmann many years ago, but I doubt that it is the same manufacturer, as I stay in South Africa. I was told that it is a piano built for schools and churches, but it had a great sound for many years. Recently my piano tuner told me that the base board is bent and that he will not tune it as it wont last, and that it would be best to buy another piano. I am heart broken, as I play my piano every day and buying another one is not an option. I will play it till the last notes fade away
This is detailed, methodical, and incredibly helpful. Thank you.
You're very welcome! We're happy to hear that you found the video useful! Thanks again and happy playing! :)
Your way of giving informations in your videos is great and helped me a lot this year when i was upgrading my kawai ca49 to a fridolin schimmel f121. I am in year 2 of my life with pianos and i enjoy your videos before or after practicing. And whats really great is your way of dealing with different arguments. You are not staight saying buy this oder this, this is bad, this is good. You help people building their own opionion and especially in this times when everbody thinks his opinion ist the only one , it is a pleasure to see this way of presentation
Just bought a used 2014 Kawai k300 from a piano rental company. Great condition with tuning and regulation included. Feel I got a great deal
That is awesome to hear! Congrats on scoring a great deal on a K300! They're wonderful instruments. I'm sure it will serve you well musically for many years to come!
@ thanks, it’s for my daughter and niece to learn. Hoping they stick with it and it graces our home and family worship for years to come.
Awesome timing, I am currently looking to buy an upright. Thanks!
Me too.
Purchased a W. Hoffmann T122 today. Your videos were extremely helpful in making this decision. It's not a C8 and it is not exactly inexpensive, but the value for the money is the best we have found. Thank you for all of your work to educate us on upright pianos.
Congratulations !! It is a great piano for the price :-)
How much does the t122 run for in US dollars ?
That was certainly the better choice over the Fidolin Schimmel. Hoffmann and Bechstein are located just miles away across the border and integration between both companies is fairly high. Schimmel had a hard time in the last years and eventually was sold to Pearl River. The Czech Republic has a history of piano manufacturing for over 100 years, but no such experience exists in Poland. Bechstein has invested a lot of money into its companies on both sides of the border in the last years, unlike any other German piano manufacturer, as most are struggling. Hoffmann has come a long way in the last years. I just heard Stu's presentation of the T 122 and it has an amazing sound. Good choice!
The sound of schimmel just blown me away. I own an upright grand kawai and budget is very important. We are not coming from a rich family and I paid that myself with my hard savings. Check out the BL-71 edition made directly in Japan. It’s one of the best piano I’ve own yet.
Always learn something new after waiting your videos. Specially acoustic pianos reviews. The way you explain it’s very easy to understand for any piano buyers. I am also a piano specialist and I have learnt many good things which I was not so aware. Your reviews help me a lot to sell pianos and I am now super confident to guide or convince any type of customers. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable knowledge and spending time to make a piano reviews. I consider you as my guru ( Teacher ). 🙏 In 2022 I’ll hope to see more brands reviews like Feurich/Sautar/Hailun and many more. ❤️
Funny I owned two of those models last year (a C.Bechstein Academy A124, and a Ritmüller UH). Both are indeed fine instruments. The key weighting on the C.Bechstein was perfectly graded - which you would expect from a handmade piano.
Yep, another outline for an exhaustive database that will wrap this up in smartphone-friendly searchable form. The editing game has stepped up, I see 2022 as a year of growth for the visual attractiveness of your materials. Awesome music + well-edited video = dream come true for someone who wants's to sharpen their show-biz skills, both for camera-man and for performer :) Stu, in the new year, I wish to you and to us to get a little piece performed in the best sounding patch (or two) of a given instrument. Describe an instrument with its vibe, as your musical impression of it (as you started lately -> "sound demos"). This should give us a wonderful and entertaining year, can not wait for those weekends :) It seems like everything comes together nicely, wonder who you gonna invite to argue with musically... (playing on 4 hands)?
Great tips to consider. When I'm ready to purchase I hope I can find a salesperson that approaches Stu's knowledge and professionalism.
Such an amazing & excellent video! Very useful info! Thank you, Stu!
I believe that rigid key/high resistance key is the best if anyone want their kids to develop proper finger formation as well as develop finger strength & sensitivity (when they're applying what I call "emotional dynamics"). Children who learned basics on soft keys have tendency to do a flat hand instead of the proper curve hand formation which gives more control to the finger in doing either a soft strike or hard strike in the keys; as well as they have tendency to have the pinky points upward (I would refer to as pianist version of exorcist).
Besides a pianist that can play on a rigid piano well enough will excels in a soft key piano, while one who uses a soft keys will never be able to adapt to all different kind of piano.
(According to my piano teacher)
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge, You seem very straightforward and clear with a nice depth. I also really like your playing.
Really an exceptional presentation, I have a very good idea about buying upright piano. I wish I had it when I bought my piano, I was lucky I choose a terrific piano with out the knowledge.Thanks
Thanks so much! We appreciate it. I am also happy to hear that you wound up with an excellent piano that suits your needs and inspires your playing! :)
I think there is another factor that needs to be added to the list that has in fact nothing to do with the instrument itself: what does the room look like where you want to place the instrument? Is it large or small, is there a wooden floor or a carpet, how high is the ceiling, are there dry-walls or solid construction (stone, concrete), is there a lot of furniture, are there neighbours to be considered? An instrument will sound radically different depending on the environment. A very large, powerful instrument like a Yamaha U 3 might be unsuitable for small rooms and rented apartments as these workhorses are simply too loud. A very bright instrument might shine in a muffled environment full of carpets, sofas and curtains, but could be too sharp in a minimalist's converted warehouse with high ceilings and an industry-style concrete floorboard. The piano doesn't have to sound great in the shop but at home, wherever that is. So I think anyone should bring photos from his home to the piano dealer.
Important for an upright: Features! Other then grands where recommendable silence or self playing systems are only available at the super high end, most uprights can be equipped with these systems in adequate quality. You should consider them, as they extent the possibilities of the piano a lot without compromising on its quality as a acoustical instrument. If you have a grand, a second upright piano is of repetition or night time practice - then a silence system is paramount - or go for a electric right away.
It is certainly a very good point. For players that have noise restrictions and limitations, silent and digital systems can be incredibly useful and a very worthwhile investment. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your insights! :)
I agree with earlier posts suggesting features like silencing abilities or things like Yamaha’s TransAcoustic would be a valuable addition to this video in order to know which brands even offer such things.
Beckstein..sound perfect...beautifull...
They are incredible expressive and refined instruments! :)
Thank you for your recommendation! Very helpful indeed. I wonder what your thoughts are on the Bechstein Residence series such as the R118 and R124?
Another fantastic and informative video! Thank you Stu!
Can you introduce console pianos? Are they different from upright? I tried one in a practice room and was surprised in a good way!
Console pianos refer to upright pianos of a certain height. Here is the general breakdown:
Console = 40" to 44"
Studio= 45" to 47"
Professional = 48"+
Thank you for this comprehensive guide for choosing a piano
You say number 1: Piano size. I agree to a certain extent. Than I have a good one for you.
Kawai ND-21 or K200?
I can't decide.
Hi, would really like your opinion on bluthner model S please
I would love to see a video on the Bosendorfer 130. Do you think it’s worth the price premium over the Bechstein concert 6/8? What do you think of the Mason and Hamlin model 50?
Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! These are all wonderful, top-tier pianos. When dealing with instruments of this ilk, it really comes down to musical preference. Every one of these models will have its own unique musical identity. For me, the Bechstein Concert C8 is the apex of upright pianos. To my ears, its power, expressivity, and musical capabilities are unparalleled. It is all very subjective in the end though.
@@MerriamPianos thank you!
Imho, I would start looking for an upright at around Kawai K200. I wouldn't bother with the Ritmuller and Pearl River. For the same money or less you xan get excellent digitals which makes me feel much much better, such as Roland LX series or Kawai Ca series.
I recently played a Kawai K200 and a CA79. The CA79 is inferior in tone to the K200, not as colorful, which is expected. Although it contains the Shigeru Kawai sample, its speaker system can't make it justice. Despite being the smallest Kawai upright piano, it still sounds better than those elaborate digital pianos. By the way, all Kawai digital pianos, including the Novus NV5S and NV10S, are made in Indonesia. The K200 is also made in Indonesia, as well as the GL10 and GL20 grand pianos.
@@Instrumental-Covers I agree. Kawai K200 is a lovely little piano. I also agree with your comments about GL 10 & 20, though I must say I felt quite a big difference with GL 30 when I had tried them. GL 30 is a proper beast. I had also tried a number of Pearl rivers and Ritmullers. I couldn't seem to extract piano and pianissimo ranges from those pianos. They only seemed to have mezzo forte to fortissimo range. Maybe it is just me but I didn't like neither their sounds nor their actions. For digitals, lately I have started enjoying the Rolands a lot. Both soundwise and actionwise.
What kind of a scam is this?⬆️
Excellent presentation! Thank you
You're very welcome! :)
So informative! Thank you Stu. Bechstein dreams….
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We appreciate it. I definitely know what you mean. Many pianists dream of owning an amazing C. Bechstein piano. My fingers are crossed that dream becomes a reality for you soon! :)
I was wondering about a Baldwin 6000. Have you played one and if so,
What are your thoughts and what if any, are the negatives.
Thanks in advance.
We have had many Baldwin 6000 pianos come through our showrooms used. They are wonderful, reliable pianos! They have a powerful tone and excellent tuning stability. They are still quite popular and don't tend to last too long when they hit our showroom floors.
Yesterday I signed the offer for a brand new Schimmel C121 matte black. I tested the Yamaha U1 but the Schimmel was way better suited for me. Now gotta wait 4 months to get it :( first acoustic piano, right now I have a P-515, but playing grand pianos at music school.
Stu, would you say that new uprights typically have stiff actions until they are worn in? It's so long since I knowingly played a new'ish upright, but I tried an upright recently which almost broke my fingers. I'm guessing it wasn't worn in.
Replies welcome from all viewers.
Love your lesson. I am a beginner, what size piano is appropriate me at the apartment unit?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for taking the time to check out our channel and write in! For a smaller apartment, a console piano (44" or less) or a studio upright (45" to 47") would likely be a suitable choice. There are also hybrid acoustic pianos, which allow you to play with headphones quietly when needed.
@@MerriamPianos ， thank you very much for the direction. I Am doing research buying guides and came across this channel, it helps me learn a lot about some basics of pianos. What a great channel 👏
Absolutely beautiful
Thanks for that very well Video. What do you think about Petrof pianos and especially the model p 118?
best greetings from Germany
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! We periodically get Petrof pianos come in used on trade-in at our showrooms and they are wonderful pianos through-and-through. The P118 is no exception. It has an excellent, musical voice and the quality of craftsmanship is evident in every detail of the instrument.
Thank you very much and best wishes from Düsseldorf Germany 😀
Well done!👏
Thank you so much! We appreciate it. :)
Very helpful. Thank you.
You're very welcome! :)
I love the Yamaha action. It feels accurate but I can't get around the square keys for some reasons.
Oh, I HATE YAMAHA not only for the key shape but most especially for it's key action. The music school I studied have a Yamaha Grand Piano as One of it's 4 Recital Piano. I HATE playing classical piano piece that has multiple "emotional dynamics" like for example Fur Elise where there's a sad chorus, a fun hopeful 2nd part & an angry 3rd part. Hitting a Yamaha key soft or hard just sound the same. Even when my teacher demonstrate how it should be done, it makes no different. There's a saying among fellow students "on classical music, don't blame the pianist...blame Yamaha."
The best piano action for any music including classical, in my opinion, is Steinway Piano. (But they say it's tuning/maintenance is more expensive then Yamaha, that's why it's being used only for 4-hand piece, not on solo)
@@yokikokudou We are talking about upright piano here. I should have use "honest" instead of "accurate". The Yamaha action is heavier than other counterparts and for me it gives a bit more control. I'm a beginner, not a professional pianist neither a classical one. So far, I don't play pieces that requires ppp. But I'm playing almost everthing except jazz and blues.
@@michelprimeau4531 I know we're here for the upright but based on my personal experience, I notice a manufacturer usually maintain consistent signature key resistance. I've once tested a Yamaha Upright in a showroom & it's just the same with the Yamaha Grand at school. That was when my father bought me a piano & I did not choose Yamaha. The school I went to have a Steinway upright & grand. Both have the similar key action as well. Teachers would recommend rigid key action but hey, if it's not for public performance & you're decided for soft key action; most of Stu's Suggestions are Soft Keys. I'm just not into Yamaha's Acoustic Piano, whether upright or grand because, just like you, I find there's really something annoying with it!!!
@@yokikokudou I don't know if it's funny or sad but I thinking to buy a used Yamaha U3 despite everything I said. At the end of next summer, I'm changing my piano no matter what. My budget would be around 6000 to 9000$ firm. Prices are ramping up with the inflation and the K300 is getting out of reach. So, I was hesitating between a Kawai K200 or ND21. I've tried them again recently and I was disappointed. Zimmerman piano might be an option. Like I said, the square keys found on the Yamaha B3 annoys me. But quality wise, I think that buying a pre-owned U3 would be a great alternative for the next 5 years. I could collect additionnal money to go after a W.Hoffman in 5 years. In 5 years, the U3 will go from 6000 to 5000$. I could easily trade it and get a maximum return.
Oh by the way, with public performance, I mean playing with a piano teacher that is breathing down your neck or an audience of strangers just watching to criticize. Any piano you're comfortable with is good enough if you're playing for your family & friends, even for a church choirs. I find church choirs the most open-minded & appreciative audience.
Can you please do a yamaha np 35 video
Good video🎉. I am selecting a upright piano for my 5 year old nephew. Can you recommend some pianos?
Hi Jenny! Brent from Merriam Music here! We're happy to hear that you enjoyed the video. There are a number of factors to consider when choosing a piano (budget, sonic needs/restrictions, aesthetic preferences, size limitations, regional availability, etc.). So, with that said, it is difficult to make suggestions without more context. We do have some excellent review and comparison videos and video guides that should help provide more direction for you. :)
Can you make a vid with you reviewing “console” size upright acoustic pianos?
meus preferidos; up-132 Steinway, Bechstein Concert 8
Those are both incredible upright pianos! :)
Hi! I'm searching for an acoustic piano but I have to deal with neighbours, so I need a silent piano and, when not in silent mode, it shouldn't be big. You said in the video that size is very important and your advice is to buy a piano at least 47inches tall due to the bass extension and the dynamics. I'd like to ask you if the piano size affects the only bass dynamics (an depth) or the complete sound range. Would a 43" piano be so bad that doesn't make sense to buy one for a student (2 years level)? I ask you this because I'm considering buying a Yamaha JU109 (or B1) silent, and it is only 43" tall. I'd appreciate any comments, thanks!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! While 47" or taller is recommended given the longevity they provide, at the end of the day, the 'right' piano is the one that checks off all the boxes for you. This includes, features/functions, aesthetics, price point, and more. A 43" silent piano could very well be an excellent choice for your needs. The silent functionality can have a lot of value if it enables more practice time. With that said, when playing acoustically, there will be certain limitations with a shorter piano when it comes to tonal and dynamic range. With that said, you can always upgrade down the road when the time comes. :)
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for your repply!
Uprights. One of the more "odd" instruments on so many levels. Bought for the oddest reasons. Placed where they shouldn't (against a wall for it's life). With the lid closed.
Oddly and surprisingly that happens with many grands. Where owners place them against a wall because it looks best there. And leave the lid closed the majority of the time. Placing picture frames or whatever on the lid. :) On hardwood or other hard surfaces. Because they don't want dust to get in jthe workings of the piano. :)
Question, what song are you playing on the Yamaha at 11:10 in the video?
Hi! Brent here! I would have to check in with Stu as to what piece he is playing at that moment. It is quite beautiful though! Perhaps, one of our helpful community members here will know the answer. :)
My biggest complaint about upright pianos is: the piano case. It engulfs the soundboard, which is allowed to breathe only against a wall. The amount of sound wave reflections inside that case and against a wall is horrendous. That is why they sound the way the sound: kind of nasal and compressed. Some upright pianos have been built with "speaker grills" or openings to let the sound come out, but it cannot match the sound radiation pattern of a grand piano. A grand piano is like an open baffle speaker design with the speaker membrane (soundboard) sitting about half way of those 16" or so of rim depth... which would be the equivalent in speaker design of a shallow H-frame open baffle speaker (considering the ratio between the size of a soundboard and the depth of the rim). Now go back to the upright piano: it is the equivalent of putting a speaker driver inside a wooden box and placing it against the wall. You are guaranteed to get all sorts of nasty wave reflections inside the box (which is why speakers use poly fillers and are made of non-resonant plywood or MDF, sometimes metal in high end speakers like Wilson Audio). Open baffle speakers don't need to fight resonances inside a box, which would color the sound. Likewise, an upright piano case will color the sound, or at least will not allow the soundboard to achieve full expression.
Alot of that wood case can be removed fairly easy if you want.
@@stevenreed5786 I agree. That will improve the sound for sure. However, the pattern radiation still has a number of shortcomings: all that sound is directed at you, which can be pretty loud and annoying. The lack of lid means the sound can't be directed at the audience, unless they sit behind you or in front of you, in both cases they can't see you directly. Also, the piano will not look nice if you strip it of its case. Grand pianos are hard to beat when it comes to sound radiation: the audience can see you, the sound is not in your face all the time and yet it is very clear, there is no sound wave compression by an enclosed case, it looks much more elegant than an upright.
I'am an advanced player and interested in buying an upright piano...the Grotrian g113...I have a small flat and don't need volume...what's your opinion?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! The Grotrian G113 is a gorgeous piano and one of the finest console upright pianos you will find on the market. If you are looking for the finest tonal quality and craftsmanship in a smaller package, it is an excellent choice for a smaller space. With that said, musical preferences are a very personal and subjective thing, so it is always recommended to spend some time on the piano at a showroom to ensure that you personally connect with the musical experience it provides. :)
@@MerriamPianos thank you very much for your attention...so as you say it's an excellent instrument...my doubt is that when I'll increase my speed of execution, such as chopin 1st etude op 10, the action and repetition will answer in a good way...i've played the piano and it sounds very well and i feel very comfortable with touchness...but what will happen when playing speedy pieces?
Just a side note on the video, why is it so overlit? The details on Stu's shirt are completely burnt ...
Shorter german uprights (bechstein, grotrian, seiler, schimmel, august forester, bluthner) sound to me way better than taller japanese or chinese uprights. Size doesn't always matter.
Agreed, sometimes it comes down to the wood / construction German uprights are using, they (shorted ones) might even match a grand piano's base quality sometimes
What I have noticed is that the Asian uprights develop a very harsh brittle sound over time. I think it has to do with the hammer felt.
2:36 Philip Glass plays
Thanks for tuning in! :)
I am always wondering how big the houses of those who pay so much attention to the loudness of the tone, must be. I am being forced to play using headphones most of the time and my digital piano has only 60W of power. I still believe that only hybrid pianos make sense in typical homes or apartments.
Touch or action is what matters. I think that for most people, the sound (especially when recording) can be addressed by piano sound modelling (VSTs).
It is not about the loudness of the tone, but about the quality of the tone. Speakers have a direct impact in how rich, expansive, full, and expressive the tone will sound. Larger speaker systems play better even a lower volume. To give you an example: I have built many speaker systems for digital pianos, and the ones with a better presence use 15" full range drivers, similar to audiophile-grade open baffle speakers. I don't play them loud, but they just fill the room with far more authority than small speakers because their larger cones move more air.
I just listened to your practice uploads with the Roland FP90X. I see why you emphasize piano action. If you are learning to play, then action is more important than sound. But if you were looking into expressing yourself to a small audience, let's say to entertain a few friends in your own home, then the action is not that important, as you should be able to handle a slightly deficient action (assuming you have a certain level of mastery of the piano). Then a digital piano with a more authentic tone and speaker system capable of allowing you to express your creativity and artistry will be more important. I will summarize it this way: for learning and practice, action over tone. For expressing yourself to others, tone over action.
@@Instrumental-Covers Good points. I agree with you. I will never play for any audience LOL Ps. I use my home audio system (pretty high end) if I want a bigger sound - I use Pianoteq.
@@mfurman May I ask which speakers do you have at home? I have been building speaker systems exclusively for digital pianos and nothing else for several years as a hobby, and I yet have to find a home speaker system that beats what I have built in the past. I once emailed Martin Logan, which is a premium audiophile speaker company, if they had any speaker system that could be used to amplify a digital piano. They said: NO. They added, "But for you home stereo and home theater needs, please don't hesitate to contact us". That is an honest answer, which made me respect them. They admitted they DON'T have a speaker system for digital pianos. I had before some of the best Polk speakers out there, and they sounded horrible for digital pianos. In my experience, home speakers are built for a general purpose music, and are not dedicated, calibrated and designed specifically for digital pianos, or piano sounds like Pianoteq.
@@Instrumental-Covers They are not very high end and powerful speakers but sound good, I think - they are Monitor Audio Silver RX1 and I use Regards Brio amplifier. You could add the centre speaker or subwoofer. I tried Yamaha HS7 recently but I prefer Monitor Audio setup. It all very much depends on the acoustics of your room.
@@mfurman Oh... I think we talked about your speakers in another post... maybe I am mixing things up... but I remember looking up similar speakers, specifically the Bronze series. Did you recently update your speakers from the Bronze series to the Silver? I can't say how your speakers sound, but I will make a guess here: they are meant for "home" sound, which typically will have a warm midrange signature. And THAT is a piano sound killer for somebody (like myself) looking for a live piano sound. A live piano sound will sound "harsh" in the sense that the speakers are putting the sound in your face. Real pianos put the sound in your face, even warm pianos do that. The Yamaha HS7 is a flat speaker with a clear midrange, and most people will probably dislike that sound because they are so used to a "home sound", meaning the midrange is subdued, kind of scooped out, favoring the mid-bass and excessive treble content. I describe home speakers as "rainy sound", because of their inherent lack of clarity for live purposes. It makes for a more relaxing sound, but with less detail. Pianos are very midrange-oriented instruments. It is unlikely that your speakers (I could be wrong) have the level of clarity and precision in the midrange to make a piano sound live. But they can make a piano sound "nice". Now, nice and live are not the same. I am willing to bet that you have achieved the type of sound most people in this channel are happy with, which seems to be a "home speaker" type of sound: warm midrange, good bass. It is a "make me feel good" type of sound. That type of sound will not cut in a live venue. It will not bring a digital piano to "I am here" type of sound. The contrast will be particularly evident if you have the opportunity to listen to both varieties of sound back and forth.
How about the zimmermann S2 120cm? Does anybody know that instrument?
We have had a few Zimmermann S2 pianos come through our showrooms in the past, so we are familiar with them. :)
@@MerriamPianos Is it any good? Considering the 120cm height
Action over tone? Or tone over action? Which is more important? Stu makes the case here for tone over action, whereas in his own digital piano videos he makes the case for action over tone. This is my take on this issue: if you are learning piano or need to practice long hours using a digital piano and play with headphones, then action over tone. But if you already have a command of the piano and you are looking to entertain an audience, then tone over action. If you can play already, you should be able to handle different action feels. Pianists are presented with all sorts of pianos on stage, they don't have the luxury of using what they want all the time. All pianos feel different. And the audience will be listening to the piano tone for sure. The statements made on the digital piano videos that action is more important than tone seems to stem from the assumption that people using a digital piano (particularly a plastic slab piano) at home are just learning piano, probably use headphones for long hours, and need to be comfortable with an action. In that case, action is more important. But for a musician seeking to entertain an audience, tone is likely more important. After all, the audience is listening.
Can anyone tell me is upright piano is good for a person who is pretty bad at piano . The problem is I jv a 61 key keyboard and it’s pretty bad.
A proper instrument is instrumental (no pun intended!) in a student's development. In addition to the inspiration an acoustic upright piano will provide, the touch and sonic output of an acoustic piano will help with technical development and expressivity in your playing.
Thank you 🙏😀
Why can't I include links in my comments (the comments are deleted)???
I think TH-cam considers it spam or something. Automatic delete or just doesn’t show.
@@lifeismusic5529 I thing that the channel decides what can be included in the comment.
It makes me laugh. No matter the recording, no matter the video, or what it’s being compared against….for me it’s Kawai every time, and nearly always the K-500. What will I do if I finally hear one in person and don’t like it?! 😂
Haha it is natural for everyone's ears to have their preferences! Personally, I really love the warmth that Kawai pianos offer as well. I am quite confident you will be pleased with what you hear when you eventually get a chance to play one in person. ;)
@@MerriamPianos Well that is reassuring, thank you! I am seriously thinking that when tie time comes, I may as well fly back to Ontario and just come visit you guys :P
At this point you could have called it a 2022 guide 😛
Scaling is more important than tone/volume. No matter how great the bass sounds and crystal bell tone is the trebble, if the scaling is awful, that piano is dead for me.
Oh so that's why very tall piano sounds scary, must be the powerful bass.😂😜😆🤪🤣
When I was 7(started studying piano young), we would avoid practicing 4-hand piece in that tall upright we call "COFFIN PIANO" unless the teacher who teaches in that is in the room. Even high C sounds so low&sad. Older student would say that the reason it is higher then other pianos in the dept is because there's was dead person inside. Anyway, when my father bought me a piano when I'm in college, I've chosen a piano that is lower then my head level when I'm seated, rigid key touch & brighter tone.
😂😜😆🤪🤣
4 months too late....
Hate the long intro
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All actions are plastic what ever happened to the dependable wooden actions
I am not sure I understand to be honest. The vast majority of actions still use predominantly wood components for the moving parts. Kawai and Mason & Hamlin use ABS carbon-fibre componentry, but they are the exceptions rather than the norm.