@Gia Gia I respect his love and he seems like a sweet guy. But to claim to be a Buddhist spiritual teacher and pool $100,000 from his friends so he can clone his dead dog seems to go against very basic Buddhist teachings of impermanence & non-attachment. It’s a bit more of a stretch, but the fact that he projects this desire onto the dog indicates he doesn’t know his own mind either.
The guy who 'resurrects his dog; lives in a pretty impressive house yet he needs to borrow money from his 'family' and also get a %50 discount somehow. And all of his 'students' wear the same clothing and are all women. I get the vibe that the guy is a cult leader more than a spiritual teacher. And the scientist, you know, fakes results of his morally and ethically questionable research, gets disowned by his scientific community, and becomes disgraced but somehow manages to avoid further repercussions. Founds a company, doing morally and ethically even more questionable things in a secluded and niche area of his profession. And he also looks down on his past. I mean, this is any evil scientist from any superhero/sci-fi story. And as a bonus, he does his work for ridiculous amounts of money and for people emotionally disturbed by the loss of their companion. And the man shaking his head in 7:23, I wonder, is he the future owner of the puppy being delivered, watching an innocent animal undergo unnecessary suffering because he wants his next pet to have the same genes as his past dog. Surrogate dogs don't seem very well cared for even in the video. And what happens to the puppies born with defects? Shelter? Street? Outright killed? What? And how doesn't a decent journalist asks this question? Forget about the journalist, how a decent human being with a conscience doesn't ask this? Shame on you! This was the disturbingly f***ed up thing I watched for some time.
Cloning my cat would just feel sad. She'd look the same, and maybe even have similar tendencies, but would not have the same experiences. Would somehow feel like dishonoring the memory :(
Ya, very creepy. My dog was like a little sister to me but thinking about cloning her is so creepy. Also the process seems unethical with surrogate dogs and lots of "defects" and they're obviously going to be a new dog, no matter how much you want your dog back.
You're right. After all, to clone is not cloning the same being/soul/spirit of a dog. All spirits are unique in that they are their own being. Cloning may achieve the same front but it does not resurrect the original being that passed away. It's like identical twins, for example: They look the same but they are two different people. I do find it dishonorable, let alone unethical.
@@manuelillanes1635 wow, due to the overwhelming amount of proof that you have provided, i have no other option but to completely and utterly agree with you.
@user-up7wy7zm9k lmao sad to inform you, murdering others has always been in our genes and that's what makes us human, most human thing is to kill others 🤣 you think we were always civilized?
He's not a real Buddhist if he can't let go of the dog. And that cloning factory is basically a puppy mill preying on people who can't face reality. Way too much yuck.
@@Benni777 he's acting like his "Buddhist" dog said to bring him back through some messed up cloning that can cause defects. He's just grieving and rich and delusional.
I don’t know why, but there is something I find weird and sad, about the surrogate dogs being used like this. What do they actually do to them after the 2 times??? And do they REALLY use them only twice? Also side note: that spiritual dude, is kinda odd. As a spiritual master isn’t he meant to have learnt to deal with grief. Not saying it can’t affect him, but I would have imagined he would have felt more compelled to give a home to stray suffering dogs, instead of spending loads of money to continually clone his old dog.
You are so right on so many levels. Also he talks about no birth without pain. Problem is the people making the choices don’t feel the pain. It’s ONLY the dogs who do, and can’t say whether or not they want to deal with the pain or not.
Being done in South Korea they probably put them down. Just like here in America there really is not that much interest in adopting them. Most people in our country America do not realize that over 90% of all animals that wind up in the shelters. are put down and not adopted out.
@@davidlee9411 I bet you're right. Very sad. The mom's didn't even have any chew toys, stuffy toys or blankets. That right there, tells u this isn't all sunshine and roses. All dogs deserve the best lives possible.
@@mandi3891 isn't breeding livestock the same? Do you see that as animal abuse as well? I'm not talking about the physical abuse, just the breeding part
Dogs aren't stupid. They could be well aware that the puppies don't look like they should. Birthing and breast feeding an alien virgin birth, essentially speaking. For the almighty dollar and to keep a megalomaniac happy. WTF is this world going to be like 50 years from now? Had an alpaca sweater that wore out? Never mind, you can give birth to an alpaca sweater hybrid ready to wear.....
2:28 the interviewer gave him a chance to be honest by asking "is this for you or for her?" and he just smacked the hand reaching to help him by saying "for her, definitely" and the interviewer instantly lost any small amount of respect he had for him. The guy is clearly a very shallow, surface level person.
This. This act is the ultimate expression of selfishness. Not only does it reflect extremely poorly on this person, but it throws into suspicion all of his spiritual teachings. I can’t imagine any kind of Buddhist philosophy that would condone this behavior, and in fact seems to go directly against their teachings. This man is the embodiment of immaturity. He’s both ethically corrupt and spiritually bereft, and the distance from reality in which he’s living is terrifying.
Who are you kidding? The narrator didn't "give him a chance". Stop pretending here. The narrator, if anything, asked an untasteful question that everyone already knew the answer.
I say it is much better to cherish the memories of a past pet, let go, and adopt from a shelter, or take a pet in off of the street. People who are thinking about cloning should take in, care for, and help another life rather than spend so much time and money trying to make a copy of a pet they have lost when that copy will not truly be the same. I feel that cloning is not needed at all and can actually become a disadvantage and negative by way of actually taking potential homes away from pets that are in shelters and in bad situations who need a good home as well as taking business away from breeders who breed. There are plenty of pets which are in shelters or in bad situations that would make wonderful pets if only more people would give them a chance. Also, since the creature that will be cloned is going to be different anyway, you might as well help out a different pet that will be able to fill the gap in your life in a much more cost effective way. You could even adopt multiple pets for the price of cloning one and still have enough money left over to care for and maintain those pets you helped save.
@@Daniel-xq8mo Some breeders, such as backyard breeders and puppy mills, I definitely agree that business should be taken away from them. But there is a need for breeders. They are the ones that continue on with the breeds people know, love, and sometimes even rely on.
If not today it would be tomorrow. Imagine how weird would it be to clone yourself knowing they used your dna and a surrogate mother, you would see your young self grow like a child once again, creepy and amazing at the time.
Yea, this is a nasty industry. It seems like it's about loving our animals, yet to get a successful clone requires so much suffering on the part of the animals involved in producing it.
I'm glad Vice is covering this. It is a cool concept but very dystopian at the same time. But all this comes back to making money. This is just my opinion, but for me, it's not the same. The life you lived makes you the person you are. It's like if there's a clone of myself living in another country, we have the exact same genes but our lived experiences will be different.
Exactly, the whole point is the experiences that shape someone’s personality, like how mine have shaped me into a lazy fast food munching gamer, wouldn’t want any other version of myself to exist
@@raituano849 The Cavendish banana is not a clone. It's a genetically modified variety from the one we had thousands of years ago that have become extinct because of fungi disease. Does a fruit/plant have lived experiences? Is it sentient? Does it have conscience? Can it be taught morals and values? Ethics? If you find the scientific studies backing this up, please send it here. Otherwise, no, I don't feel remorse eating plants and veggies.
I would be doubting the validity of them being actual clones. All three puppies definitely have different genetics. It would actually be real easy for them to scam their customers.
@@VikingHalmere I guess not completely - even at the start there could be minor differences already occured and through the process of cell multiplying the genome will be altered slightly
He could have just donated all that money to animal shelters in memory of his dog, and adopted another one as well. Just the fact alone that this is creepy and insane, some people have too much money and not enough brains...🤦♀️🤷♀️
@@ginawhite3061 - Who are you to determine how someone else lives? What about the jobs in STEM that are funded by this business? Are those not worthy? The only one without brains here is you.
Just because we can, doesn’t mean we should. Our experiences make us who we are. Without that, we are empty shells. I am sympathetic to his pain, my dog died two weeks ago, TH-cam algorithm put this in front of me, I don’t take it as a sign. My dog was a maltipoo and couldn’t be replaced. As much as I miss her, to lose her again or bring deformed life up only to be put down? That seems more cruel than I can say, especially if you believe that these dogs are copies of your own fur baby.
Okay so... They're torturing those poor "mother" dogs. Keeping them in captivity, forcing them to get pregnant and give birth over and over again. Forcing repetitive surrogacy on them. And then the dogs giving birth, nursing them, caring for them and getting attached to the puppies just to have the ripped away from them. It's even possible that the mother dogs realize that the puppies don't smell right or don't look right. Dogs are intelligent and intuitive.. maybe they sense that something is off about the puppies that they were forcefully impregnated with. This entire process is disgusting. Just because some rich people can't cope in a healthy way or can't be mature enough to let their pets go. This is a completely selfish act. There are so many dogs, puppies and other pets sitting in over-filled pounds and rescues that desperately need a home. If these people really cared about their pets they would let them rest peacefully. If they really cared about animals, they would go to a shelter and seek out a dog that has a similar temperament as their previous dog. But these people who are paying 100,000 are doing this for completely fucked up selfish reasons. This is just so wrong.
I can explain why it doesn’t make any sense - it’s a logical fallacy, specifically one of equivalency. The two situations have no bearing on each other and therefore can’t be compared. It’s like asking why you’re eating dinner tonight when there’s hunger in the world, except even more outlandish.
i understand your comment. It's like ending child poverty in the UK. Child poverty is supposed to be a big issue. Then on the 5th of November the UK spends several hundred millions of pounds on fireworks(most of which are cheapskate trash). It's like a global disease..... people haven't yet learned to see past their own actions. Or put their own actions into a larger perspective. The fact he's supposed to be a spiritual teacher makes me sad.
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Its wild that cloning your pet is an actual service available to us. Technology is amazing now. There was a movie about this in the 2000s - The 6th Day and I thought it was too far fetched to ever be a thing lol.
If one is an avid reader,movie 🎥 lover..... yikes...."this shite is not good" this sweet dogs clone could wake up one day and be Cujo!!!! 🤯👹👻😈🙀; Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
I love my dog and will probably find it difficult to let go when he leaves but I can't imagine doing this it feels like it would disrespect his memory not to mention those poor mummy dogs have no quality of life this is just a glorified puppy mill
Do what I did host a funeral in their memory and never use the collar on any dog ever again. I did that for my dog Leia and my family knows I refuse to use her collar on another dog.
@NerdGeek Cosplay I couldn't begin to imagine putting sids collar on another dog sid is hairless so has to wear clothes all of that along with his collar lead toys will have a special box to put in
I've grieved the loss of my boy. I did lose my sanity, more than once. For those who dismiss anyone in this video for being insane, be grateful that you have not experienced insanity that comes from the overwhelming pain of grief. Understand that grief is a horrible process that the brain has to go through and it can affect anyone differently. Even if you think you have control over yourself, grief can rip that away from you at times. I don't blame this guy at all for trying to find solace in any way he can. The pain that I felt from losing my dog I would not wish on anyone. I would wish that anyone that experiences that would have some way to relieve the pain. Until you've experienced that pain, I don't think you can fully understand how horrible it is. If I could describe eternal suffering i.e. what some would describe as hell, I would call it grief. Inconsolable pain so bad that you couldn't even imagine how bad it is, with no relief. Every possible joy robbed from you. That being said, I would not, in good conscience be able to force a female dog to have babies that so frequently have health problems to the point where the puppies have to be euthanized. That is not how I want to honour my boy. But after knowing what the pain of grief feels like, I would never judge anyone who feels differently. I can only imagine the experience of how it would be to see my boy as a puppy. I adopted him at age 5 and never got to experience his puppy years. I would find joy in that. Indescribable joy. Although I would be fully aware that any new puppy would never be the one I lost, I believe I could accept, in my mind and heart, that the puppy is a new being, and one that is just as special.
@@patti6178 No, but there’s no reason to assume you won’t be able to love a new dog just as much as you loved your old dog. Of course they would be a different being but you’d love them for their unique qualities and not just as a replacement for your old boy.
@@Lazurath101 If you read my last sentence, you will see I have said I can love another dog. But telling me to get a new dog is like telling someone to go get a new mother after they've attended her funeral. Like wtf.
If you think you know pain, imagine if you had breed him, and had him from day one. I can tell you from personal experience, that its several dimensions worse that what you describe.
Let me understand, the eggs that were being harvested, are from recently deceased females. Then they are cut up, extracted, implanted into another female that’s going to be deceased after ( doubtful) 2 pregnancies. These sweet dogs never go outside. Never walk on grass. Never have an owners love or experiences. And we call this OK????? Cruelty at its least level. 51 dogs dead for one clone. Disgusting
That guy doctored his reports and did multiple unethical procedures in early 00s and got fired from the university where he was working. How much do you think he’s changed ever since?
Why is this creepy? It’s not resurrection…it’s a phenotypic clone… meaning they just look the same… and there are tons of dogs and cats who already look the same
I'm surprised more people haven't commented about the surrogate situation. They can't consent to being artificially inseminated or to giving birth or to having to nurse puppies. How do they find them? How are they treated at the facility? What do they do with them once their "job" is finished? Incredibly fucked up and unethical.
Wait, I don’t understand. How did the company get what they needed to clone Juanjuan? She was cremated. I didn’t realize that there was any viable DNA or anything left in the ash…
I am here after watching a podcast called “legend” with the same girl that is public relation on the video, I don’t feel comfortable at all with all of this it looks like crazy people doing crazy things and not thinking one second about the poor dog that is not lucky at all and got her belly opened so many time to give unnatural birth ! Please stop this nonsense 🛑
At least these animals are not suffering the same problems as puppy mills... All the owners who have their pets cloned clearly would be willing to spend that much, since they see their pets like their family/adoptive family, not just friend/partner, someone who they consider that they can't live without.
Did you not watch the video? To get one viable candidate, it usually takes multiple attempts, often with the resulting puppies being unviable, as well as forcing female dogs to be surrogates. That’s a LOT of suffering to satisfy a very selfish desire.
@@rurutuM welp that's true, but old people do eat dogs here so they are stolen, forced to breed continuously until their reproductive functions don't work/get sick, then sold as meat or buried alive... and the govt is okay with that
This dog cloning industry should be shut down! I feel saddened to see and now know that thats what these mommy dogs are going through.. this is all for the selfishness of humans. Also there are so many homeless dogs that needs love and a home.
My dog is one of my best friends, my family won’t get another dog after her. She is 11 years old now and I really hope she lives a decade more. I also hope she doesn’t have to be put down and she can pass away peacefully by herself whenever it is time…I hope it doesn’t break my heart too much
@@ruzen3803 Because thats usually the first thing doctors in my country recommend. Also because my dad searched it up as soon asthe dog started limping one time.
Losing a best friend will always break your heart 💔 you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel heart break from that, it's all a testament to how much you love you best friend ❤❤❤ don't be scared of it, embrace it and let it make you stronger! 11 years is a great innings already 🥰
It's definitely more harmful. They don't say how the ovaries are obtained. Given the size of the profit motive, the simplest answer would be that they slaughter the dogs to harvest the ovaries. I would also guess that the surrogate mothers are killed, since there's no mention of them being rehomed. Also, licensed breeders in the US wouldn't be raising the dogs in pens. They'd be in the breeder's home where they can be socialized and after breeding the dog, they would keep them. This video depicts a glorfied puppy mill. Puppy mills are banned in my state.
The fact that Vice hired Andre Ward the retired boxing champ, paid him to rock the Kid 'n Play HiTop haircut AND THEN add Cloning Pets is Fking MAD😭🤣🍻Cheers!!!
What this man really wanted was a resurrection, not a clone. Clones only achieve the same appearance but we all know that all souls are different, even if they are a clone of an original. All dogs are precious. He could've just gotten another one of the same breed or none at all to honor the memory of his pet :(
The one think I cannot see is how the personality will be the same as the original. Maybe similar, but different life, circumstances etc. If anyone knows more about cloning and personality, please chime in. Thank you.
this doesn't seem right, there are so many animals that need homes, it's wrong to clone your dog when you know they're not even going to be the same dog.
No because they would not be the same person. They are a copy. People are formed by their experiences and time on earth. The clone and the orginal would be two completely different people despite sharing the same DNA. To me it's like you got close to a twin and said twin died, so you try to get close to the other twin expected then to fill the gap left behind from the other. You also aren't obligated to the clone rights, personal automy, and love because they are still another individual.
His attachment to his dog doesn't seem very Buddhist imo.
exactly, he is just one of those fake spiritual "guides"
It most definitely isn't. The karmic cycle isn't determined by another person.
He is just one of thoes fakes
That white lady killed me you can feel yea I can feel lmaoo shut up...
Isn't it just for "material" possessions? I wouldn't consider a dog a possession, because he/she is a living being.
Buddha: suffering arises from attachment to things we know are impermanent
Buddhist teacher: I HAVE TO RESURRECT MY PUPPY 😭😭
Absolutely....even our nuns used to lecture; all sadness,depression,caused by "wanting"....
“Are you doing this for yourself or her?”
“TOTALLY doing it for my dog. She totally wanted this.”
Amen
@Gia Gia I respect his love and he seems like a sweet guy. But to claim to be a Buddhist spiritual teacher and pool $100,000 from his friends so he can clone his dead dog seems to go against very basic Buddhist teachings of impermanence & non-attachment. It’s a bit more of a stretch, but the fact that he projects this desire onto the dog indicates he doesn’t know his own mind either.
Attachment to living creatures are very different from attachment to material things.
The guy who 'resurrects his dog; lives in a pretty impressive house yet he needs to borrow money from his 'family' and also get a %50 discount somehow. And all of his 'students' wear the same clothing and are all women. I get the vibe that the guy is a cult leader more than a spiritual teacher.
And the scientist, you know, fakes results of his morally and ethically questionable research, gets disowned by his scientific community, and becomes disgraced but somehow manages to avoid further repercussions. Founds a company, doing morally and ethically even more questionable things in a secluded and niche area of his profession. And he also looks down on his past. I mean, this is any evil scientist from any superhero/sci-fi story. And as a bonus, he does his work for ridiculous amounts of money and for people emotionally disturbed by the loss of their companion.
And the man shaking his head in 7:23, I wonder, is he the future owner of the puppy being delivered, watching an innocent animal undergo unnecessary suffering because he wants his next pet to have the same genes as his past dog.
Surrogate dogs don't seem very well cared for even in the video. And what happens to the puppies born with defects? Shelter? Street? Outright killed? What? And how doesn't a decent journalist asks this question? Forget about the journalist, how a decent human being with a conscience doesn't ask this? Shame on you!
This was the disturbingly f***ed up thing I watched for some time.
Yessss your observations are so interesting. And yes the surrogate mothers and animals in this process are all deeply mistreated.
It’s disgusting
@@RachelDoesntknow took the words right out my
mouth I think his observation may be correct !
couldn’t have said it better
I wish more ppl heard ur words mate
Cloning my cat would just feel sad. She'd look the same, and maybe even have similar tendencies, but would not have the same experiences.
Would somehow feel like dishonoring the memory :(
I do not agree
Ya, very creepy. My dog was like a little sister to me but thinking about cloning her is so creepy.
Also the process seems unethical with surrogate dogs and lots of "defects" and they're obviously going to be a new dog, no matter how much you want your dog back.
You're right. After all, to clone is not cloning the same being/soul/spirit of a dog. All spirits are unique in that they are their own being. Cloning may achieve the same front but it does not resurrect the original being that passed away. It's like identical twins, for example: They look the same but they are two different people. I do find it dishonorable, let alone unethical.
Agree
if your cat is calico or Tortie, she will not look the same actually! the red blotches are RANDOM every time.
This is just a very expensive puppy mill.
IKR? So many dogs need good homes!
Cloning your own dog in an attempt to control reincarnation doesn't seem very Buddhist to me.
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This is incredibly interesting and f*%ked up at the same time
Hell yeah dude
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Agree.
I have too many questions on the ovaries on where they get them, c section on dogs, etc...
Those clones seemed a bit creepy to me
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The scientist that does the cloning has "supervillain" written all over him.
Dude's a known scam artist who faked articles and copied works of other people. No sane person in South Korea takes him seriously anymore.
you as well.
Yea ikr
Why. People have been producing people for millions of years
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If you really loved your dog, you wouldn't do this. Even if they look exactly the same, its a totally different dog with a different personality
And they don't even look the same. I doubt the genetics are a match.
I completely disagree
@@manuelillanes1635 wow, due to the overwhelming amount of proof that you have provided, i have no other option but to completely and utterly agree with you.
Well if it's a clone it'd pretty much be the same biologically and have the same personality (to begin with).
That Manuel guy is being a troll, clearly.
This is disturbing. I’m very concerned about the unethical work this “doctor” is doing. The poor surrogates look sad.
They say tigers can't change their stripes, and he did already get in trouble for fraud before. I'm concerned, too.
and breeding livestocks is the same, y'all people that say that breeding cats and dogs is bad yet are complacent about eating meat are hypocrites
Doesn't matter, this is a huge step for humanity, we don't care if they look sad their sacrifice will always mean more than your miserable life.
No, you are disturbig.
@user-up7wy7zm9k lmao sad to inform you, murdering others has always been in our genes and that's what makes us human, most human thing is to kill others 🤣 you think we were always civilized?
He's not a real Buddhist if he can't let go of the dog. And that cloning factory is basically a puppy mill preying on people who can't face reality. Way too much yuck.
This dude is just insane tbh, it's clearly for him and his comfort, not the dog's. It's dead.
Bro, he’s not hurting anyone, just leave him be. 🤷🏻♀️
Treating somthing unrealistically special... finding that niche... thats what rich guys like these do.
@@Benni777 well actually… the breeding process is cruel, for the surrogate mother and the babies born with defects.
@@Benni777 Did you not see how multiple puppies had severe defects and/or died?!?
@@Benni777 he's acting like his "Buddhist" dog said to bring him back through some messed up cloning that can cause defects. He's just grieving and rich and delusional.
I don’t know why, but there is something I find weird and sad, about the surrogate dogs being used like this. What do they actually do to them after the 2 times??? And do they REALLY use them only twice?
Also side note: that spiritual dude, is kinda odd. As a spiritual master isn’t he meant to have learnt to deal with grief. Not saying it can’t affect him, but I would have imagined he would have felt more compelled to give a home to stray suffering dogs, instead of spending loads of money to continually clone his old dog.
A few might get adopted but just like the dog breeding industry, they put them down.
Spiritual/Religious types never live what they preach.
You are so right on so many levels. Also he talks about no birth without pain. Problem is the people making the choices don’t feel the pain. It’s ONLY the dogs who do, and can’t say whether or not they want to deal with the pain or not.
Being done in South Korea they probably put them down. Just like here in America there really is not that much interest in adopting them. Most people in our country America do not realize that over 90% of all animals that wind up in the shelters. are put down and not adopted out.
@@davidlee9411 I bet you're right. Very sad. The mom's didn't even have any chew toys, stuffy toys or blankets. That right there, tells u this isn't all sunshine and roses. All dogs deserve the best lives possible.
I feel incredibly bad for the dogs who have to “mother” all these puppies.
I can't understand how this kind of animal abuse is legal. And where did they get all those ovaries?
@A that’s a lot of edge there my guy be careful with that. Go back to making prepubescent gaming videos.
@@mandi3891 isn't breeding livestock the same? Do you see that as animal abuse as well? I'm not talking about the physical abuse, just the breeding part
@A snowflake
@@j.1759 I'm vegan bc I can't tolerate the animal abuse related to animal products.
I feel bad for the surrogate mothers, i just hope they're being treated as good as one can be treated in that situation... idk man, poor dogs
Dogs aren't stupid. They could be well aware that the puppies don't look like they should. Birthing and breast feeding an alien virgin birth, essentially speaking. For the almighty dollar and to keep a megalomaniac happy. WTF is this world going to be like 50 years from now?
Had an alpaca sweater that wore out? Never mind, you can give birth to an alpaca sweater hybrid ready to wear.....
They're not. They go through a ton of suffering and failures before they get a successful clone
Tell that to the surrogate human mothers of India
He has his own little cult, going there.
Dude stays getting it
@@Fee.1 noooooooooo
@@chillout4958 no?
In a way this is sad because people can't seem to move on from pets that to have passed away
Wait until they green light human cloning
@@bri1085 there will be a lot of people cloning dead relatives, especially spouses/partners and children.
@@bri1085 bring it on, I'd love to clone myself, think about all the people that would benefit from cloned organs, blood and stem cells
@@VikingHalmere that's probably even more morally sticky than just cloning people
@@jocelyncooper1738 AND; corrupt, ignorant, hateful,souless,selfish politicians,billionaires,DICKtators etc etc etc 😲.
I'm just saying; they've cloned the wooly mammoth 🦣; why?; What's next? Mussolini?
😱 😳 Omg.
2:28 the interviewer gave him a chance to be honest by asking "is this for you or for her?" and he just smacked the hand reaching to help him by saying "for her, definitely" and the interviewer instantly lost any small amount of respect he had for him. The guy is clearly a very shallow, surface level person.
This. This act is the ultimate expression of selfishness. Not only does it reflect extremely poorly on this person, but it throws into suspicion all of his spiritual teachings. I can’t imagine any kind of Buddhist philosophy that would condone this behavior, and in fact seems to go directly against their teachings.
This man is the embodiment of immaturity. He’s both ethically corrupt and spiritually bereft, and the distance from reality in which he’s living is terrifying.
instantly lost all credibility
Who are you kidding? The narrator didn't "give him a chance". Stop pretending here. The narrator, if anything, asked an untasteful question that everyone already knew the answer.
Dog doesn't want to be resurrected to hang out w/ that loser cult leader.
Even the clone dogs were looking at him like this is bulls**t.
I say it is much better to cherish the memories of a past pet, let go, and adopt from a shelter, or take a pet in off of the street. People who are thinking about cloning should take in, care for, and help another life rather than spend so much time and money trying to make a copy of a pet they have lost when that copy will not truly be the same. I feel that cloning is not needed at all and can actually become a disadvantage and negative by way of actually taking potential homes away from pets that are in shelters and in bad situations who need a good home as well as taking business away from breeders who breed. There are plenty of pets which are in shelters or in bad situations that would make wonderful pets if only more people would give them a chance. Also, since the creature that will be cloned is going to be different anyway, you might as well help out a different pet that will be able to fill the gap in your life in a much more cost effective way. You could even adopt multiple pets for the price of cloning one and still have enough money left over to care for and maintain those pets you helped save.
Preach! Agreed 100%
Business should be taken away from breeders
@@Daniel-xq8mo Some breeders, such as backyard breeders and puppy mills, I definitely agree that business should be taken away from them. But there is a need for breeders. They are the ones that continue on with the breeds people know, love, and sometimes even rely on.
This is disturbing.
It's particularly appalling when you think about what that money could do for homeless & shelter animals.
I'm sure humans are being cloned someplace in the world. If they can do it, there are people willing to pay to get it done.
If not today it would be tomorrow.
Imagine how weird would it be to clone yourself knowing they used your dna and a surrogate mother, you would see your young self grow like a child once again, creepy and amazing at the time.
Just adopt a dog please. There’s so many great homeless dogs looking for a home.
Yea, this is a nasty industry. It seems like it's about loving our animals, yet to get a successful clone requires so much suffering on the part of the animals involved in producing it.
I'm glad Vice is covering this. It is a cool concept but very dystopian at the same time. But all this comes back to making money. This is just my opinion, but for me, it's not the same. The life you lived makes you the person you are. It's like if there's a clone of myself living in another country, we have the exact same genes but our lived experiences will be different.
Exactly, the whole point is the experiences that shape someone’s personality, like how mine have shaped me into a lazy fast food munching gamer, wouldn’t want any other version of myself to exist
dystopian, now imagine cloning humans
and you're generalizing the term dystopian this is not dystopian, it's bad but not dystopian
Plants have been cloned and genetically modified, the banana you eat is a clone. You don’t feel remorse do you?
@@raituano849 The Cavendish banana is not a clone. It's a genetically modified variety from the one we had thousands of years ago that have become extinct because of fungi disease. Does a fruit/plant have lived experiences? Is it sentient? Does it have conscience? Can it be taught morals and values? Ethics? If you find the scientific studies backing this up, please send it here. Otherwise, no, I don't feel remorse eating plants and veggies.
This man just spent a million dollars on clones . I can' even ...
I would be doubting the validity of them being actual clones. All three puppies definitely have different genetics. It would actually be real easy for them to scam their customers.
Well, one genetic test and you can determine that, if a client is willing to pay 50-100k for a clone I'm sure they'd at least double check...
cloning animals isn't new, and it's not even really that difficult, sure they may look a little different, bit genetically their DNA is identical
Considering that he faked his past research, I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
@@VikingHalmere I guess not completely - even at the start there could be minor differences already occured and through the process of cell multiplying the genome will be altered slightly
He could have just donated all that money to animal shelters in memory of his dog, and adopted another one as well. Just the fact alone that this is creepy and insane, some people have too much money and not enough brains...🤦♀️🤷♀️
He didn't have enough money. They gave him a massive discount and he had borrow a hefty amount from his family.
@@dikshyasurvi6869 I understand that, but he still could have made better use of it.
@@ginawhite3061 - Who are you to determine how someone else lives? What about the jobs in STEM that are funded by this business? Are those not worthy? The only one without brains here is you.
@@FHL-Devils oh get tf off your high horse. This is sick, and if you support what these people are doing, then you're sick too.
@@FHL-Devils When the process causes suffering (just look at the cloning process) it’s no longer isolated to one person.
Just because we can, doesn’t mean we should. Our experiences make us who we are. Without that, we are empty shells.
I am sympathetic to his pain, my dog died two weeks ago, TH-cam algorithm put this in front of me, I don’t take it as a sign. My dog was a maltipoo and couldn’t be replaced. As much as I miss her, to lose her again or bring deformed life up only to be put down? That seems more cruel than I can say, especially if you believe that these dogs are copies of your own fur baby.
That's just not okay, super wrong and creepy
Poor female dogs that are being kept for this
Just adopt a animal that needs a home
I'm ok with this making rich people pay for advancing science. Medical research has a lot of trial and error you never hear about
Came here after BobbyBroccoli's two-part series on the Korea's cloning scandal
Ugh this is so gross! When will humans stop finding new ways to abuse and exploit animals?! 😞
Okay so... They're torturing those poor "mother" dogs. Keeping them in captivity, forcing them to get pregnant and give birth over and over again. Forcing repetitive surrogacy on them. And then the dogs giving birth, nursing them, caring for them and getting attached to the puppies just to have the ripped away from them. It's even possible that the mother dogs realize that the puppies don't smell right or don't look right. Dogs are intelligent and intuitive.. maybe they sense that something is off about the puppies that they were forcefully impregnated with. This entire process is disgusting. Just because some rich people can't cope in a healthy way or can't be mature enough to let their pets go. This is a completely selfish act. There are so many dogs, puppies and other pets sitting in over-filled pounds and rescues that desperately need a home. If these people really cared about their pets they would let them rest peacefully. If they really cared about animals, they would go to a shelter and seek out a dog that has a similar temperament as their previous dog. But these people who are paying 100,000 are doing this for completely fucked up selfish reasons. This is just so wrong.
Very well put I completely agree
What a strange world we live in. When us drone strike killed 10 civilians in Afghanistan no one care, but cloning dog it's big issue.
What you commented doesn’t make sense but I can’t put the words together to tell you why specifically
I can explain why it doesn’t make any sense - it’s a logical fallacy, specifically one of equivalency. The two situations have no bearing on each other and therefore can’t be compared. It’s like asking why you’re eating dinner tonight when there’s hunger in the world, except even more outlandish.
i understand your comment. It's like ending child poverty in the UK. Child poverty is supposed to be a big issue. Then on the 5th of November the UK spends several hundred millions of pounds on fireworks(most of which are cheapskate trash).
It's like a global disease..... people haven't yet learned to see past their own actions. Or put their own actions into a larger perspective. The fact he's supposed to be a spiritual teacher makes me sad.
Vice coming through with the goods 🤙🏼
Who's here after Bobby Brocoli?
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My contribution to be filmed about my precious story and my life style for Vice news shows no interests of me for the legitimacy of cloning or getting offended by the people who is in self departmentalism.
Not living in your so -called mainstream perspective does not mean that our life style or choice is less value than yours,and English is even not my mother tougue by the way.
But the reason why I choosed to speak out instead of being silence that most clients who have cloned dogs used to act to avoid the criticism is because i know my case is very individual and too profound to hind . There are so much spiritual truth and so deep the message in the spirit realm revealed i can learned from this extrodinary exprience and Maomao ,that makes me believe it is a true asset for the people who is looking for their ultimate goal and spirituality. I just feel someone need my story somewhere out there, to be encouraged ,being brave and to be in high vibration of the consciousness.
Unfortunately, due to the time limitation , the editting and cutting the whole interview in this news is too short to make my whole story complete since the total interview have been taken more than 5hours
and 2days shooting of my daily life.
So much messages has been missing and so much truth is untold by this news .
By the way,if you are the person who is willing to learn and willing to see all the possibilities with different perspective .
I have opened a youtube channel for making Maomao's story become alive and to be continued with you,for the communication and discussion or QA not only my exprience or my suggestion,but the beauty and love in deeper level as a spritual, intellectual being, in this incredible universe filled up with so much unknown .waitting for us to discovery with your opened mind.
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Its wild that cloning your pet is an actual service available to us. Technology is amazing now.
There was a movie about this in the 2000s - The 6th Day and I thought it was too far fetched to ever be a thing lol.
Exactly what I thought about when reading the title.
If one is an avid reader,movie 🎥 lover..... yikes...."this shite is not good" this sweet dogs clone could wake up one day and be Cujo!!!! 🤯👹👻😈🙀; Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
this isn't cool though, this is terrifying
@@Mr4Seven yep, and we what that movie was actually about
They've been cloning things since like the 80s
I love my dog and will probably find it difficult to let go when he leaves but I can't imagine doing this it feels like it would disrespect his memory not to mention those poor mummy dogs have no quality of life this is just a glorified puppy mill
Do what I did host a funeral in their memory and never use the collar on any dog ever again. I did that for my dog Leia and my family knows I refuse to use her collar on another dog.
@NerdGeek Cosplay I couldn't begin to imagine putting sids collar on another dog sid is hairless so has to wear clothes all of that along with his collar lead toys will have a special box to put in
Ok this was not for his dog, it was for him. He should’ve just gotten another dog. This is ridiculous
this guy cant move on from the fact that his beloved dog has passed away and trying to find a convincing reason to his mind to bring the dog back
Wait, you can clone from ashes?
the dogs dont look happy
Thats exactly why WE humans all CRY at birth: Its a TRAUMA to be born !!!
I've grieved the loss of my boy. I did lose my sanity, more than once. For those who dismiss anyone in this video for being insane, be grateful that you have not experienced insanity that comes from the overwhelming pain of grief. Understand that grief is a horrible process that the brain has to go through and it can affect anyone differently. Even if you think you have control over yourself, grief can rip that away from you at times.
I don't blame this guy at all for trying to find solace in any way he can. The pain that I felt from losing my dog I would not wish on anyone. I would wish that anyone that experiences that would have some way to relieve the pain. Until you've experienced that pain, I don't think you can fully understand how horrible it is. If I could describe eternal suffering i.e. what some would describe as hell, I would call it grief. Inconsolable pain so bad that you couldn't even imagine how bad it is, with no relief. Every possible joy robbed from you.
That being said, I would not, in good conscience be able to force a female dog to have babies that so frequently have health problems to the point where the puppies have to be euthanized. That is not how I want to honour my boy. But after knowing what the pain of grief feels like, I would never judge anyone who feels differently.
I can only imagine the experience of how it would be to see my boy as a puppy. I adopted him at age 5 and never got to experience his puppy years. I would find joy in that. Indescribable joy. Although I would be fully aware that any new puppy would never be the one I lost, I believe I could accept, in my mind and heart, that the puppy is a new being, and one that is just as special.
Just get a new dog geez
@@Lazurath101 it's not a couch
@@patti6178 No, but there’s no reason to assume you won’t be able to love a new dog just as much as you loved your old dog. Of course they would be a different being but you’d love them for their unique qualities and not just as a replacement for your old boy.
@@Lazurath101 If you read my last sentence, you will see I have said I can love another dog. But telling me to get a new dog is like telling someone to go get a new mother after they've attended her funeral. Like wtf.
If you think you know pain, imagine if you had breed him, and had him from day one. I can tell you from personal experience, that its several dimensions worse that what you describe.
''You offer nothing new, just a younger grape from the same vine, destined for the same old bottle''- Hari Seldon
Imagine the strain on relationships when you ask your family for that kind of coin.
He is avoiding grief and grief is the price we pay for love.
Damn that last sentence hit kinda deep
Let me understand, the eggs that were being harvested, are from recently deceased females. Then they are cut up, extracted, implanted into another female that’s going to be deceased after ( doubtful) 2 pregnancies. These sweet dogs never go outside. Never walk on grass. Never have an owners love or experiences. And we call this OK????? Cruelty at its least level. 51 dogs dead for one clone. Disgusting
So much for his detachment to material things.
That guy doctored his reports and did multiple unethical procedures in early 00s and got fired from the university where he was working. How much do you think he’s changed ever since?
Those puppies look way to "chill"
that’s what I was thinking, zombie like
Why is this creepy? It’s not resurrection…it’s a phenotypic clone… meaning they just look the same… and there are tons of dogs and cats who already look the same
I'm surprised more people haven't commented about the surrogate situation. They can't consent to being artificially inseminated or to giving birth or to having to nurse puppies. How do they find them? How are they treated at the facility? What do they do with them once their "job" is finished?
Incredibly fucked up and unethical.
That dog at the end reminded me of Paris Hilton's dog on that South Park episode. Her dog was so depressed it committed suicide. A funny episode!
My god. Seriously?
th-cam.com/video/kzt72Zf-9vI/w-d-xo.html
haha 🤣
Suicide is not funny...unless it's a south park parody 😂
This is messed up get a dog enjoy it for its personality enjoy the dog for who it is and when it passes on move along this is so bad
Human cloning is probably happening, we just don't know about it yet
9:05 🤣 they couldn't figure out how to clone the dog, so instead of giving back his $100,000, they just found a lookalike baby breed
He is only perpetrating one scam already, no reason to think this cloning is a scam too.
I feel sorry for the surrogates. This is so wrong.
A clown buying a cloned dog. That seems about right 😂
Something about the whole idea of cloning anything living is so twisted
The real question is, what do they do with the extras that arent picked? I have trouble believing they are all adopted after :(
The poor pup died from all the cringe happening around her R.i.P doggo.
Wait, I don’t understand. How did the company get what they needed to clone Juanjuan? She was cremated. I didn’t realize that there was any viable DNA or anything left in the ash…
there are dna left for example even after cremation some very small part of bones still remain in the ashes and those have dna.
@@aararara5001 thank you! I didn’t think about the tiny pieces of bone.
@@aararara5001 ooof yeah I don’t like the sound of this it’s making my stomach turn
I am here after watching a podcast called “legend” with the same girl that is public relation on the video, I don’t feel comfortable at all with all of this it looks like crazy people doing crazy things and not thinking one second about the poor dog that is not lucky at all and got her belly opened so many time to give unnatural birth ! Please stop this nonsense 🛑
At least these animals are not suffering the same problems as puppy mills... All the owners who have their pets cloned clearly would be willing to spend that much, since they see their pets like their family/adoptive family, not just friend/partner, someone who they consider that they can't live without.
Did you not watch the video? To get one viable candidate, it usually takes multiple attempts, often with the resulting puppies being unviable, as well as forcing female dogs to be surrogates. That’s a LOT of suffering to satisfy a very selfish desire.
Adopt a new puppy or a stray dog you will fall in love again
Sometimes its better when memories stays memories 😔❤️
You're right. Ever see Pet Sematary?
Imagine a cloned person from history locked away somewhere out thier
Really creepy,we know they cloning humans too😂💯
Speculation
Healthy? Those pups struck me as awfully lethargic for their age
Maybe do a video on south korean puppy mills/kitty mills next. It's terrible here.
Pet mills are in every country they are all bad
@@rurutuM welp that's true, but old people do eat dogs here so they are stolen, forced to breed continuously until their reproductive functions don't work/get sick, then sold as meat or buried alive... and the govt is okay with that
Lol, that poor dude. Try realizing that smell during your own vasectomy. It's not fun.
so who's bright idea was it to have white subtitles on a white background? if you'll pardon the pun
Reminded of that story where a woman goes to Buddha asking him to revive her dead son. Maybe this Buddhist teacher had never heard of it
Never underestimate the power of denial (from everyone in the video)
I don't know how I feel about this
Do androids dream of cloned dogs?
Nah, they're all about electric sheep ⚡🐑
This dog cloning industry should be shut down! I feel saddened to see and now know that thats what these mommy dogs are going through.. this is all for the selfishness of humans. Also there are so many homeless dogs that needs love and a home.
My dog is one of my best friends, my family won’t get another dog after her. She is 11 years old now and I really hope she lives a decade more. I also hope she doesn’t have to be put down and she can pass away peacefully by herself whenever it is time…I hope it doesn’t break my heart too much
Don’t let the death of your dog prevent you from loving other dogs.
Just look what Barbra Streisand has done . . .
@Anna Why Would You Even Think Of Putting Her Down? To Ease Her Suffering OR Your Own?
@@ruzen3803 Because thats usually the first thing doctors in my country recommend. Also because my dad searched it up as soon asthe dog started limping one time.
Losing a best friend will always break your heart 💔 you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel heart break from that, it's all a testament to how much you love you best friend ❤❤❤ don't be scared of it, embrace it and let it make you stronger! 11 years is a great innings already 🥰
it's really shocking to me. That biotech center on this video is right next to my place, holy, something bizarre I've never felt.
If you're Rich AF, then do whatever you want with your money. Money can buy happiness
I wonder why they didn't interview his wife or his girlfriend to ask how she feels about this
Was that the white girl?
I dont see how this is anymore harmful to the dogs than actual dog breeding
It's definitely more harmful. They don't say how the ovaries are obtained. Given the size of the profit motive, the simplest answer would be that they slaughter the dogs to harvest the ovaries. I would also guess that the surrogate mothers are killed, since there's no mention of them being rehomed. Also, licensed breeders in the US wouldn't be raising the dogs in pens. They'd be in the breeder's home where they can be socialized and after breeding the dog, they would keep them. This video depicts a glorfied puppy mill. Puppy mills are banned in my state.
This is borderline frightening and completely
eery.
youtube recommendations: want to watch a cult leader clone his dog?
me: sure
The fact that Vice hired Andre Ward the retired boxing champ, paid him to rock the Kid 'n Play HiTop haircut AND THEN add Cloning Pets is Fking MAD😭🤣🍻Cheers!!!
Maybe he'll be interested in cloning his boy Shawn after he retires
4:06 seeing that dog on the left honestly made me sad I wonder if his leg is one of the defects from cloning.
Do you think the two extra dogs are jealous of Moon? You know dude's giving her extra attention.
This is so wrong in every way...basically it is for the owner's grief and money that flow to the company...how many c section can one handle in life??
What this man really wanted was a resurrection, not a clone. Clones only achieve the same appearance but we all know that all souls are different, even if they are a clone of an original.
All dogs are precious. He could've just gotten another one of the same breed or none at all to honor the memory of his pet :(
The one think I cannot see is how the personality will be the same as the original. Maybe similar, but different life, circumstances etc. If anyone knows more about cloning and personality, please chime in. Thank you.
Dude is so attached to his dog he creates a abomination. This is disgusting and dangerous
this doesn't seem right, there are so many animals that need homes, it's wrong to clone your dog when you know they're not even going to be the same dog.
That’s like actually replacing your late pet. Why wouldn’t you grief and then think about getting another pet when you’re ready?
BREAKING: Korean geneticists first to successfully solve the age old dilemma of Having your Dog and eating it too
I know it wouldn't be who she was but to see that dog again, I'd only take care of her even better
Who are they kidding cloning humans been going on for decades
9:15 dude politely wondering if he has been scammed
Question: Would anyone clone a loved one who has passed, if you could?
If it's free yes. If I have to pay 100k a clone, nope.
No because they would not be the same person. They are a copy.
People are formed by their experiences and time on earth.
The clone and the orginal would be two completely different people despite sharing the same DNA.
To me it's like you got close to a twin and said twin died, so you try to get close to the other twin expected then to fill the gap left behind from the other.
You also aren't obligated to the clone rights, personal automy, and love because they are still another individual.
An imposter
I’d clone my crush
I would love to clone my Wife so I could get her virginity 😊
Just imagine what government and companies around the world... are testing and doing behind closed door...
Kanye
And this is what they did with Dave Chappelle, cloned him. Not in South Korea, likely in or around San Francisco. That's not the real Dave Chappelle.