Stockwell's discussion of the CIA was at times tinged with gallows humor. At some point a group he was part of was trying to name a project in the 1970s. "Let's call it 'Operation Phoenix'" Stockwell said, "You ever heard of Phoenix in Vietnam?". They hadn't. Stockwell had a lot of common sense. More than most.
@@daniecoetzee5727 As if those conditions were not present when they were colonies and that continued in those African countries that remained on the side of the U.S. ha ha ha ha Yes the CIA and the European colonial powers brought the Africans prosperity and a few murderous mercenaries and terror groups like UNITA.
Sadly Cuba's involvement in Ethiopia was not so emancipating.... I had friends in the Derg. The Cubans were not so polite. One put it well to me, "We had socialism for centuries in Ethiopia. What can the Cuban's teach us?" He left the nation after watching a Cuban "advisor" sexually assault a girl in an office building.
Well it depends from your point of view; For Portugal it was a great job (exploiting the people and their natural ressources) but for Angola I don't think it was well seen. Since their independance Angola became an african powerhouse with their oil. Even the portugueses go to work there considering they are in crisis.
Maestro Todopoderoso you need to study a little bit dude...Angola is a world reality since the 50´s. great job when you build schools and hospitals, when you eradicated diseases, when you have higher quality of life not only for whites but for all races! when you have built a better country....unfortunately for you things did not start now. Portugal is full of angolans so what?
***** Don't tell me to study, you're clearly the one who better get informed. BTW it's the opposite mate, ANGOLA IS FULL OF PORTUGUESES working like slaves in their ancient colony, how ironic is that? The same happens for Brazil. Another fact; in 40 years, Angola outplayed the portuguese economy .. I'm telling you Portugal is a flop.
ARGENTINO NUNCA LATINO I was in the Portuguese-Army in 1974. Portugal released Angola for Independence for the Peoples of Angola in early January of 1975. It was the United States of America UNITA-South Africa Army Division Forces coming from the South of Angola to the North of the City of Luanda, Angola that was Repelled and thrown back to the South by Soviet-Union supported CUBAN-Fidel Castro Socialism Forces of the Capital City of Luanda that Advanced South and Destroyed ALL Capitalist-American-South African Capitalism Forces that were Wiped Out and the Soviet Union Socialism, today the Soviet-Russian Federation-Socialism that "Defeated" the United States of America-Capitalism U.S.A.-E.U.A. The 2nd American-United States of America-Capitalism had "LOST" its 2nd Vietnam in the American-Angolan War of 1970 to 1975 in Angola along with Vietnam in its American-Capitalist-Empire attempts of "American-Capitalist-Colonialism" in 1964 to 1975!!!! Socialism-U.S.S.R.-CUBA had Defeated Capitalism-America-U.S.A. in both the Vietnam War and the Angolan War of 1970 to 1975 Defeats for the United States of America-Capitalism-Empire of North America,the Defeated END OF AMERICA-U.S.A.-Capitalism-Freemasonic-Illuminati-Lucifer-Capitalist-Satanism-American attempted Capitalist-Failures-Colonialisms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The SADF did invade Angola in 1975 but were repulsed and ran with their tails between their legs back to South Africa. South African air farce had zero control of the airspace and each time they tried to accomplish what they failed to in 1975 failed miserably. So much for the superior aryan race. Jonas Savimbi would've been some regional governor had the SADF won, but they would have they real power subjecting black Angolans to the Nazi-like torture that black South Africans faced. Period.
thx bro...I thought I had everything made so far by IT...I have like 7 different compilations (including the two original albums, plenty of mixtapes and that single with mos def and krs one). Tell me when you find it, i'd be appreciated :)
we had our own experience about CIA involvment here in INDONESIA it's on october 1th,1965 a bloody coup has taken +/- 500000 ~ 1 millions life (from october 1965 until january 1966) most of 'em were peasants,SOEKARNO loyalist and workers class the cia were a nemesis for our revolutionary leader that day SOEKARNO and tried many times to overthrown him,that day they succeded and the era of bloody military dictatorship is just begun (32 years)..until may 1998 when SUHARTO regime was crumble..
Hello, Mya we have permission to use a few seconds of clips from this video in an educational, non-commercial film destined for TH-cam please? We can credit ColdWarWarriors appropriately. Thank you Liz
In fact war only started after the first agricultural setlements of 10-12 thousand years ago and the emergence for the first time of economic surplus, state structures and military forces.
Dude I'm Afro Centric and I'm black. I'm no mans employee but my own. I'm just saying that you can't fight racism with racism. You are just throwing a stone in a glass house.
The Cubans also outnumbered the South Africans and were slaughtered in the thousands. Any army can fail it's objective if it's drowned in the blood of peasant soldiers.
Actually MPLA had russian arms and supplies in the Portuguese colonial war, long before the civil war and long before the Americans ever got actively involved in the conflict. The MPLA was the first group to receive any kind of aid and that's why they were the largest of the groups.
No, Even the guy reporting knew little about Angolan history. The mother of the Angolan Revolution is UPA/FNLA, some of its early stage members were also involved in liberating Congo, DRC. UPA became FNLA, some MPLA, UNITA members started with UPA...
*BULLSHIT* USSR and Cuba are the ONLY 'evil' involved. There was peace until the communists showed up. Savimbi asked for US help for a peaceful transition as Portugal handed over independence.
We Americans were involved in the periphery. We supported UNITA through military aid and Brazilian mercenaries. The aid was tragicomic, never enough and the wrong stuff. I heard that the US gave UNITA M1 carbines. They wanted AK47s. They dumped the carbines into a river. I have no idea how many Brazilian mercenaries made their way to Angola, and how many were sent to Holden Roberto versus Jonas Savimbi. Our biggest help might have been to bust UN weapons and material sanctions on the Afrikaaners. We gave them clandestine supplies and some very sophisticated artillery. Gerald Bull's special cannon design hammered the Cubans. He was a US citizen who was given permission to sell his technology to the Afrikaaners. The first long range artillery rounds were made in America before the Afrikaaners started making them.
"UGLY, PIGS and MAD People".A great movie from Ettore Scola...No one else would discribe better the traitors, scoudrels, murders and thiefs -- americans, soviets/ cubans and black africans -- the wrecked forever one of the most beautiful, hopefull and multi-cultural, etnic and linguistic young country in Africa.A part of Portugal... because were Portugal that built Angola : white europeans, black africans and mixed people.But the History soon shall give JUSTICE to the Motherland PORTUGAL !
Great documentary...Hmmm...Its interesting that the Portugese were the first Europeans to reach Angola and West Africa and were some of the last Europeans to leave. Just saying. The US acts like a puppeteer in many conflicts around the world.
Interesting i didnt knew that thanks for the information; thats some sort of discrimination and isnt good for any of your people , but we shall fight that and unite África, Black and White Africans must understand that only united we will prevail, and i want África to be a great continent in the future
How is it Hypocritical? They were anti-Imperialists. Fidel Castro was the Byproduct of American Imperialism that dates back to the Spanish/American War and the Final insult of installing and supporting the Despotic Batista regime. Castro clearly empathized with the Colonial struggles in Africa and sought to help them. If you sought to understand their POV then you would know that they were fighting an Empire that Dominated them for more than 60 years.
The truth is that SA troops went in on the request of the CIA. We did not wear SA Army uniforms, but the green uniforms of Unita - we supported Unita during the civil war against MPLA & Cubans - we pushed the Cubans all the way back to Luanda & only left in Mar 1976 following a UN resolution.
Agreed. I also think of the biggest enemies of African nations is from within. Lunatic leaders are the downfall of pretty much all 3rd world countries. After generations of one terrible leader after another, a lack of education among youth, disease and hunger, it's very hard to rise above such problems.
@BahreNeGash but is true, what im saying is that Angola is free and developing, a slap to the face of any western imperialist. They were fighting for more than 3 decades and their effort finally paid off.
America sticking it's nose in. The South African's would have been able to deal a lot better with the Cubans and Soviets if they didn't have to contend with international sanctions. First Rhodesia and now South Africa. Well done USA. You screwed up again
@montecristo2512 i fail to see the connection between the existence of a party during colonisation and its present "corruptness". Asia has a history of colonisation too yet a lot of Asian countries are doing a lot better than many African countries. And the major difference between those countries is that Asian countries have had better post-independence governance than most of Africa. Betw 97 & 01 18% of Angola's education budget was spent on overseas scholarships i.e. it was spent on MPLA
Cuban internationalist, left behind a grateful and stable region asserting its own determination, without any fear of cross-border raids and insecurity, which were dominant incidences during the apartheid regime. At the battle of Cuito Cuanavale like the biblical battle of Armageddon, the force of freedom triumphed over the forces of apartheid and colonialism. Self-evidently the negative forces have all vanished from the face of the earth and never to return.
Cuba's role in Angola set in train a series of developments that resulted in the liberation of Namibia and the end of apartheid. You might call it "meddling", the liberated people will take another view.
@montecristo2512 and while colonisation was mainly a nasty thing unfortunately most post-independence African governments have been just as bad , save a few cases of colonial governments, and often even worse. Look at life in Zambia, the DRC, Angola, Zimbabwe, Rwanda, Sudan, Dafur etc etc etc
Hate the CIA as much as the next guy - the way they asked SA for help and then turned around and thumbed their nose at them in the 90s is about as lowdown as it gets - but why the fuck do I feel like I'm watching Cuban propaganda?
I support that? Lol... we fought against it! The Portuguese knew damn well what the Russian and American interests in Angola were... The rebels served their cause, don't believe me? ask my uncle who was black and served in the Portuguese army as oposed to joining MPLA or any of the other dilusional international tools... The Portuguese lost all credit when they left Angola to the vultures after 13 years of fighting terrorists i'll give you that, but very few supported the CIA or the USSR
@montecristo2512 officials kids. during the same time 13% of the health budget was spent on overseas medical care. Again for MPLA party officials and their families. How much of Angola's oil revenue goes to dos Santos and his band of corrupt thieves? That's the real reason for Angola's problems. Almost US 1 billion was spent in acquiring arms to defeat UNITA supporters with the French and Russians in the recent arms scandal.And that's just what we know about.
Cubans in gunships killed hundreds of thousands of black people .I was there part of the S A D F our unit was 1 SSB only ten guys in a section way to small to look for shit .Our job was to get in close scout out routes for our tank Div .First you could see the birds then body parts dragged off by wild animals and then the stench . Thank the C.I.A for putting a stop to that like they did to the Russians in Afghanistan God bless Stinger Missile s .
And there is another little thing you might have missed. Portugal wasn't "colonialist " in the same sense of the word as were the British the Dutch the French and the Master pillager the great US of A. Blacks in Portugal & its former colonies were and ARE treated better than they ever will be treated in these racist nations.
They were certainly more free back then than they are now and you can't generalize colonializers, Portuguese colonies were not like South Africa, I know many people that were in the former colonies and they treated Africans as equal. Until 1961 people were living just fine until the militias came along.
you notice how Hollywood always trying to find stories of black guys that did well in war... they shld come to SA, firstly in the old times we had the Zulus who could run 40miles and still fight a battle... they were awesome google King Shaka. Then in modern times during aprtheid you had 32 Battalion, the best army unit ever besides our special forces, they were the best and were Black. Unlike other units controlled by whites, Boers fought and died with their black brothers. google 32BATTALION
@BahreNeGash Ok Angola is a democratic republic...with the same president since 1975,where journalits can´´t publish articles that talk about the mpla government,what a democracy!...was this why the Angolans fhought the Portuguese for so many years?Dictatorship of anothr kind?
I'm glad MPLA won that war. They did the right thing- fight for independence siding with whoever could help (USSR and Cuba), set up a functioning government even if it was leftist, then gradually moderate over the years. Savimbi was a puppet and the reality is that the MPLA wouldn't have had to go to Moscow if the US and other impearialists had stayed out of Angolan affairs.
Savimbi was the only freedom minded Angolan for Angola - the communists begged him for a cease fire because they knew they were losing. Try reading a real book sometime and not a blog site.
Estes comentadores é tudo trolls a tentar fazer algum dinheiro e só postam merda na internet. O Fidel Castro lol ,se Angola seguisse os passos deste homem bem..hoje em dia tavam prai como na Somalia. O povo Angolano é bem fino!O meu avo teve la no serviço militar e disse que passou bons momentos cm os soldados Angolanos.
@montecristo2512 Its about a government & its people(its people being its followers & supporters) who has standards so low that it undermines the safety, security & health of those whose standards are high. Its the shameful legacy of black rule. People love to comment on matters that they have NO experience in. I have employed many blacks, as have many I know. They are impossible to teach or train, always demand more for less. This isn't however, about employment. Its about a peoples standards.
Hypocrisy is no respecter of men. I find it so ironic that Fidel Castro has always criticized the United States for its involvement and "meddling" in affairs of other countries, yet he has been apt to do the same. Che Guevera was the same way. So critical of the US and the West yet his life consisted of fighting wars (sorry, "revolutions") in Guatemala, Mexico, Cuba, and Bolivia, none of which were his home. The irony of life.
Pedro Pedrao angola hoje é roubada de alto a baixo por um soba e sua familia...também sou de opinião que podes defender os delírios que bem entenderes....mas não podes forjar uma realidade que não existe!
***** Tu estás em todos os vídeos sobre Angola a chorar a mesma coisa...Parece que quem sofre és tu, querias ter as colonias para viver da boa...Vai lá vender bacalhau pa
E Jorge " ter colonias para viver da boa"...eheheheehhe que otário...se tou em todos os videos de angola é pq tu tb estás...andas à cata dos dolares é??
The SADF stopped before luanda because the US withdrew support due to the world throwing a tantrum. And anyway, if the SADF had captured luanda what would they done with it. There was no reason to capture it. And if the cubans were so strong why could the SADF operate with impunity in angola for the whole time and why did the cubans hide in the rear of the country the whole time. You know nothing about cuito. Angolan forces fled to cuito after being crushed at the lomba river. Was their failure.
i dont know who you think is demanding anything for free, im not following many african countries but i know some about Angola, and they surely dont demand anything for free...they trade their resources for what they need, no charity there..
Do you want confuse West and WHITE, to justify the black merchants by slaves? Do you prefer to be similar Savimbi and Bokassa or prefer critically to analyse? Can you to trust opinion of Menilik II about Russia? Do you see questions? why 2000 black men battled in party of the colonialists during the battle near Аdwa, but 50 Russian volunteers to battled in African army? Why Tolstoy had connection with Мenelik II? Why Tolstoy had connection with Gandhi? Why Gandhi had connection with M. L. King?
Gotta completely disagree with the notion that "race" is irrelevant. Most if not all colonial powers either used religion or the pseudoscience of Eugenics among other excuses for the atrocities committed against the indigenous peoples of Africa, the Americas, Asia and Australia. Dehumanizing racism is why there were numerous genocides committed in those lands
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My dad told me so many crazy stories about this. He lived in Angola in 1975 during the Revolution. He was from Cabo Verde. 💯💯💪🏽
Nice! 🔥🔥🔥
Did he meet mercenary leader Cornal Challan from England
Stockwell's discussion of the CIA was at times tinged with gallows humor.
At some point a group he was part of was trying to name a project in the 1970s. "Let's call it 'Operation Phoenix'"
Stockwell said, "You ever heard of Phoenix in Vietnam?". They hadn't. Stockwell had a lot of common sense. More than most.
Cuba's involvement in many African countries' emancipation from colonial rule is undeniable
"Emaciation"...ha ha ha..you mean change into dictatorships, poverty and corruption by new owners, Cubans, Russians and Chinese.
@@daniecoetzee5727 As if those conditions were not present when they were colonies and that continued in those African countries that remained on the side of the U.S. ha ha ha ha Yes the CIA and the European colonial powers brought the Africans prosperity and a few murderous mercenaries and terror groups like UNITA.
Specially in Angola. Brother nation. 4 ever.
Sadly Cuba's involvement in Ethiopia was not so emancipating.... I had friends in the Derg. The Cubans were not so polite.
One put it well to me, "We had socialism for centuries in Ethiopia. What can the Cuban's teach us?"
He left the nation after watching a Cuban "advisor" sexually assault a girl in an office building.
@@daniecoetzee5727what was the last book you read and studied referencing Cuba and it's revolution?
WOW! Interviews with all the main protagonists, all seem to be talking pretty candidly too.
they dont make docs of this quality anymore sadly
If anyone is looking for the source of this video, as I was, it's episode 17 "'Good Guys, Bad Guys'" of CNN's documentary show called "Cold War"
Super-rare Portuguese AR-10 with aluminum 2-piece jungle stock at 0:16!!!!
great weapon
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Can you tell me which IT song you got that quote from??!?! What album or mixtape is it featured at?
Portugal did a great job until the revolution in 1974...
Pedro Pedrao you need to study a lot to talk about Angola until 1975...read some books and shut your mouth
Well it depends from your point of view; For Portugal it was a great job (exploiting the people and their natural ressources) but for Angola I don't think it was well seen. Since their independance Angola became an african powerhouse with their oil. Even the portugueses go to work there considering they are in crisis.
Maestro Todopoderoso you need to study a little bit dude...Angola is a world reality since the 50´s. great job when you build schools and hospitals, when you eradicated diseases, when you have higher quality of life not only for whites but for all races! when you have built a better country....unfortunately for you things did not start now. Portugal is full of angolans so what?
***** Don't tell me to study, you're clearly the one who better get informed. BTW it's the opposite mate, ANGOLA IS FULL OF PORTUGUESES working like slaves in their ancient colony, how ironic is that? The same happens for Brazil. Another fact; in 40 years, Angola outplayed the portuguese economy .. I'm telling you Portugal is a flop.
ARGENTINO NUNCA LATINO I was in the Portuguese-Army in 1974. Portugal released Angola for Independence for the Peoples of Angola in early January of 1975. It was the United States of America UNITA-South Africa Army Division Forces coming from the South of Angola to the North of the City of Luanda, Angola that was Repelled and thrown back to the South by Soviet-Union supported CUBAN-Fidel Castro Socialism Forces of the Capital City of Luanda that Advanced South and Destroyed ALL Capitalist-American-South African Capitalism Forces that were Wiped Out and the Soviet Union Socialism, today the Soviet-Russian Federation-Socialism that "Defeated" the United States of America-Capitalism U.S.A.-E.U.A. The 2nd American-United States of America-Capitalism had "LOST" its 2nd Vietnam in the American-Angolan War of 1970 to 1975 in Angola along with Vietnam in its American-Capitalist-Empire attempts of "American-Capitalist-Colonialism" in 1964 to 1975!!!! Socialism-U.S.S.R.-CUBA had Defeated Capitalism-America-U.S.A. in both the Vietnam War and the Angolan War of 1970 to 1975 Defeats for the United States of America-Capitalism-Empire of North America,the Defeated END OF AMERICA-U.S.A.-Capitalism-Freemasonic-Illuminati-Lucifer-Capitalist-Satanism-American attempted Capitalist-Failures-Colonialisms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND TODAY WE ARE STILL SUFFERING.
@spotbel Is the full stop/period key on your keyboard broken?
The SADF did invade Angola in 1975 but were repulsed and ran with their tails between their legs back to South Africa. South African air farce had zero control of the airspace and each time they tried to accomplish what they failed to in 1975 failed miserably. So much for the superior aryan race. Jonas Savimbi would've been some regional governor had the SADF won, but they would have they real power subjecting black Angolans to the Nazi-like torture that black South Africans faced. Period.
Were you at Cuito? Or is this just something you read or heard about?
can anyone tell me where this video is from and what it is called? some kind of history channel special or something?
thx bro...I thought I had everything made so far by IT...I have like 7 different compilations (including the two original albums, plenty of mixtapes and that single with mos def and krs one). Tell me when you find it, i'd be appreciated :)
we had our own experience about CIA involvment here in INDONESIA it's on october 1th,1965 a bloody coup has taken +/- 500000 ~ 1 millions life (from october 1965 until january 1966) most of 'em were peasants,SOEKARNO loyalist and workers class the cia were a nemesis for our revolutionary leader that day SOEKARNO and tried many times to overthrown him,that day they succeded and the era of bloody military dictatorship is just begun (32 years)..until may 1998 when SUHARTO regime was crumble..
Hello,
Mya we have permission to use a few seconds of clips from this video in an educational, non-commercial film destined for TH-cam please?
We can credit ColdWarWarriors appropriately.
Thank you
Liz
I want to see a part 3 :(
is there a full doc
Angola is dealing with the legacy of hundreds of years of occupation and almost continual conflict since the 1960s.
1:08 what is that song?
In fact war only started after the first agricultural setlements of 10-12 thousand years ago and the emergence for the first time of economic surplus, state structures and military forces.
Dude I'm Afro Centric and I'm black. I'm no mans employee but my own. I'm just saying that you can't fight racism with racism. You are just throwing a stone in a glass house.
Where is part 3?
@richardhaw Didn't the Phillipines rely on American Dollar to survive?
Good to know.
Where is this documentary from?
CNN series called Cold War...
I believe.
what documentary is this vid from?
It's from CNN's 1998 series, 'Cold War.'
+Russianman90 I don't think it's from that series.
anybody know the song at 1:33? pls
where can i find the 3 part of this documentary
The Cubans also outnumbered the South Africans and were slaughtered in the thousands. Any army can fail it's objective if it's drowned in the blood of peasant soldiers.
In reality - history books. UNITA won.
Actually MPLA had russian arms and supplies in the Portuguese colonial war, long before the civil war and long before the Americans ever got actively involved in the conflict.
The MPLA was the first group to receive any kind of aid and that's why they were the largest of the groups.
No, Even the guy reporting knew little about Angolan history. The mother of the Angolan Revolution is UPA/FNLA, some of its early stage members were also involved in liberating Congo, DRC. UPA became FNLA, some MPLA, UNITA members started with UPA...
Holy Helll, Stockwell looks different. I was wondering what happened to that guy. Any further explanations?
this documentary is being viewed In the perspective of the US, who are not presented as the evil force behind this conflict.
*BULLSHIT* USSR and Cuba are the ONLY 'evil' involved. There was peace until the communists showed up. Savimbi asked for US help for a peaceful transition as Portugal handed over independence.
We Americans were involved in the periphery. We supported UNITA through military aid and Brazilian mercenaries. The aid was tragicomic, never enough and the wrong stuff.
I heard that the US gave UNITA M1 carbines. They wanted AK47s. They dumped the carbines into a river. I have no idea how many Brazilian mercenaries made their way to Angola, and how many were sent to Holden Roberto versus Jonas Savimbi.
Our biggest help might have been to bust UN weapons and material sanctions on the Afrikaaners. We gave them clandestine supplies and some very sophisticated artillery. Gerald Bull's special cannon design hammered the Cubans. He was a US citizen who was given permission to sell his technology to the Afrikaaners. The first long range artillery rounds were made in America before the Afrikaaners started making them.
What's the point of signing peace agreement when you end up fighting each other shortly later . What a joke !
whitezuluboy,I am CC veteran,was the 1987-1988,saw everything with my naked eyes.
The SADF definitely was not scared of the MPLA.
Juan Olivier they were scared of Cuban mig-23.
why not
And we still beat the whole lot
"UGLY, PIGS and MAD People".A great movie from Ettore Scola...No one else would discribe better the traitors, scoudrels, murders and thiefs -- americans, soviets/ cubans and black africans -- the wrecked forever one of the most beautiful, hopefull and multi-cultural, etnic and linguistic young country in Africa.A part of Portugal... because were Portugal that built Angola : white europeans, black africans and mixed people.But the History soon shall give JUSTICE to the Motherland PORTUGAL !
Gyeah !!! Brap Bap Bah Rat ta Ta Ta !
How many CIA Combat Troops served in Angola?
CIA and boer got kicked in Angola with success
Great documentary...Hmmm...Its interesting that the Portugese were the first Europeans to reach Angola and West Africa and were some of the last Europeans to leave. Just saying. The US acts like a puppeteer in many conflicts around the world.
The World is already now America involve in any country's problem ⚠️
Interesting i didnt knew that thanks for the information; thats some sort of discrimination and isnt good for any of your people , but we shall fight that and unite África, Black and White Africans must understand that only united we will prevail, and i want África to be a great continent in the future
🤦 it sounds nice before some people Start to play European in the continet 🤷
thank you cuba-people for kicking the racists ass, and freeing the african-people.
TIMELY IN 2020
How is it Hypocritical? They were anti-Imperialists. Fidel Castro was the Byproduct of American Imperialism that dates back to the Spanish/American War and the Final insult of installing and supporting the Despotic Batista regime. Castro clearly empathized with the Colonial struggles in Africa and sought to help them. If you sought to understand their POV then you would know that they were fighting an Empire that Dominated them for more than 60 years.
How did they get an interview with Fidel Castro?
They were comunist so he probably saw them as an asset worth cultivating...
South Africa were never terrified of the MPLA not at any time during the war.
Dos santos has turned angola into a basket case
@BahreNeGash What do you think about Zimbabwe? big evolution,no?and Mugabe,a great leader also right?
Call of duty Black ops II pyrrhic victory
+Walker Tk'D 4:40 SAVIMBI! talking about not wanting the russian imperialists to rule his country!
@brandaoz no my European friend, Angola is the fastest growing economy in southern Africa
Thanks to China.
The truth is that SA troops went in on the request of the CIA. We did not wear SA Army uniforms, but the green uniforms of Unita - we supported Unita during the civil war against MPLA & Cubans - we pushed the Cubans all the way back to Luanda & only left in Mar 1976 following a UN resolution.
Fascist pos
seria tao bem com tradução em português
Verdade
I am glad most of these murders of the native people of Angola are in the graves or in the process of dying too. Praise God !
How is ' liberation ' working out for Angolan peoples ? Oil money being shared ? Nice roads ? ect ?
Agreed. I also think of the biggest enemies of African nations is from within. Lunatic leaders are the downfall of pretty much all 3rd world countries. After generations of one terrible leader after another, a lack of education among youth, disease and hunger, it's very hard to rise above such problems.
@BahreNeGash but is true, what im saying is that Angola is free and developing, a slap to the face of any western imperialist. They were fighting for more than 3 decades and their effort finally paid off.
VIVA SAO JORGE E PORTUGAAAAAL!!!! BRAGANÇA!!!
@BahreNeGash We don´t have a king...since 1910,my point is that Angola(not only) is going away from what it fought for!
Grande Fidel!
CNN , News? nice one haha
What are you talking about?
America sticking it's nose in. The South African's would have been able to deal a lot better with the Cubans and Soviets if they didn't have to contend with international sanctions. First Rhodesia and now South Africa. Well done USA. You screwed up again
@montecristo2512 i fail to see the connection between the existence of a party during colonisation and its present "corruptness". Asia has a history of colonisation too yet a lot of Asian countries are doing a lot better than many African countries. And the major difference between those countries is that Asian countries have had better post-independence governance than most of Africa. Betw 97 & 01 18% of Angola's education budget was spent on overseas scholarships i.e. it was spent on MPLA
send henry kissenger to the hague
Cuban internationalist, left behind a grateful and stable region asserting its own determination, without any fear of cross-border raids and insecurity, which were dominant incidences during the apartheid regime. At the battle of Cuito Cuanavale like the biblical battle of Armageddon, the force of freedom triumphed over the forces of apartheid and colonialism. Self-evidently the negative forces have all vanished from the face of the earth and never to return.
How about a story about the Portuguese civilians in 1975 Angola that were murdered and raped by the Angolan communists and terrorists
Cuba's role in Angola set in train a series of developments that resulted in the liberation of Namibia and the end of apartheid. You might call it "meddling", the liberated people will take another view.
redword2007 I'd say "liberation" Is a bit of a misnomer unless you mean free to robbed by one's own people instead of foreigners.
@@cretansuperbos2121not how that works
@montecristo2512 and while colonisation was mainly a nasty thing unfortunately most post-independence African governments have been just as bad , save a few cases of colonial governments, and often even worse. Look at life in Zambia, the DRC, Angola, Zimbabwe, Rwanda, Sudan, Dafur etc etc etc
the west and the rest of us
And americans dropped South Africa, as usual drop the world when needed
Hate the CIA as much as the next guy - the way they asked SA for help and then turned around and thumbed their nose at them in the 90s is about as lowdown as it gets - but why the fuck do I feel like I'm watching Cuban propaganda?
I support that? Lol... we fought against it!
The Portuguese knew damn well what the Russian and American interests in Angola were... The rebels served their cause, don't believe me? ask my uncle who was black and served in the Portuguese army as oposed to joining MPLA or any of the other dilusional international tools...
The Portuguese lost all credit when they left Angola to the vultures after 13 years of fighting terrorists i'll give you that, but very few supported the CIA or the USSR
@montecristo2512 officials kids. during the same time 13% of the health budget was spent on overseas medical care. Again for MPLA party officials and their families. How much of Angola's oil revenue goes to dos Santos and his band of corrupt thieves? That's the real reason for Angola's problems. Almost US 1 billion was spent in acquiring arms to defeat UNITA supporters with the French and Russians in the recent arms scandal.And that's just what we know about.
@abeshaking370 so was somalia ;)
That's what is going on in Somalia
No, he didn't say that. It was Albert Einstein. Perhaps you think he only spoke "nonsense" too?
Cubans in gunships killed hundreds of thousands of black people .I was there part of the S A D F our unit was 1 SSB only ten guys in a section way to small to look for shit .Our job was to get in close scout out routes for our tank Div .First you could see the birds then body parts dragged off by wild animals and then the stench . Thank the C.I.A for putting a stop to that like they did to the Russians in Afghanistan God bless Stinger Missile s .
And there is another little thing you might have missed. Portugal wasn't "colonialist " in the same sense of the word as were the British the Dutch the French and the Master pillager the great US of A.
Blacks in Portugal & its former colonies were and ARE treated better than they ever will be treated in these racist nations.
And there they all saw their arses.
These days it's the Chinese who are fooling around in Africa.
They were certainly more free back then than they are now and you can't generalize colonializers, Portuguese colonies were not like South Africa, I know many people that were in the former colonies and they treated Africans as equal. Until 1961 people were living just fine until the militias came along.
BLACK OPS 2!!
This is unfair why dont they talk about Swapo
you notice how Hollywood always trying to find stories of black guys that did well in war... they shld come to SA, firstly in the old times we had the Zulus who could run 40miles and still fight a battle... they were awesome google King Shaka. Then in modern times during aprtheid you had 32 Battalion, the best army unit ever besides our special forces, they were the best and were Black. Unlike other units controlled by whites, Boers fought and died with their black brothers. google 32BATTALION
@BahreNeGash Ok is their lost aniway.
@BahreNeGash Ok Angola is a democratic republic...with the same president since 1975,where journalits can´´t publish articles that talk about the mpla government,what a democracy!...was this why the Angolans fhought the Portuguese for so many years?Dictatorship of anothr kind?
I'm glad MPLA won that war. They did the right thing- fight for independence siding with whoever could help (USSR and Cuba), set up a functioning government even if it was leftist, then gradually moderate over the years. Savimbi was a puppet and the reality is that the MPLA wouldn't have had to go to Moscow if the US and other impearialists had stayed out of Angolan affairs.
Savimbi was the only freedom minded Angolan for Angola - the communists begged him for a cease fire because they knew they were losing. Try reading a real book sometime and not a blog site.
Estes comentadores é tudo trolls a tentar fazer algum dinheiro e só postam merda na internet.
O Fidel Castro lol ,se Angola seguisse os passos deste homem bem..hoje em dia tavam prai como na Somalia.
O povo Angolano é bem fino!O meu avo teve la no serviço militar e disse que passou bons momentos cm os soldados Angolanos.
@montecristo2512 Its about a government & its people(its people being its followers & supporters) who has standards so low that it undermines the safety, security & health of those whose standards are high. Its the shameful legacy of black rule. People love to comment on matters that they have NO experience in. I have employed many blacks, as have many I know. They are impossible to teach or train, always demand more for less. This isn't however, about employment. Its about a peoples standards.
Hypocrisy is no respecter of men. I find it so ironic that Fidel Castro has always criticized the United States for its involvement and "meddling" in affairs of other countries, yet he has been apt to do the same. Che Guevera was the same way. So critical of the US and the West yet his life consisted of fighting wars (sorry, "revolutions") in Guatemala, Mexico, Cuba, and Bolivia, none of which were his home. The irony of life.
"people from Angola asked for freedom"..poor darling..they have a rubish dictaroship since 1975...
Very wrong !
Pedro Pedrao vai comer um cagalhão seu ignorante
Pedro Pedrao angola hoje é roubada de alto a baixo por um soba e sua familia...também sou de opinião que podes defender os delírios que bem entenderes....mas não podes forjar uma realidade que não existe!
***** Tu estás em todos os vídeos sobre Angola a chorar a mesma coisa...Parece que quem sofre és tu, querias ter as colonias para viver da boa...Vai lá vender bacalhau pa
E Jorge " ter colonias para viver da boa"...eheheheehhe que otário...se tou em todos os videos de angola é pq tu tb estás...andas à cata dos dolares é??
Turns out UNITA and Jonas Savimbi was popular, populist and not a 'bad guy.'
The SADF stopped before luanda because the US withdrew support due to the world throwing a tantrum. And anyway, if the SADF had captured luanda what would they done with it. There was no reason to capture it. And if the cubans were so strong why could the SADF operate with impunity in angola for the whole time and why did the cubans hide in the rear of the country the whole time. You know nothing about cuito. Angolan forces fled to cuito after being crushed at the lomba river. Was their failure.
i dont know who you think is demanding anything for free, im not following many african countries but i know some about Angola, and they surely dont demand anything for free...they trade their resources for what they need, no charity there..
Do you want confuse West and WHITE, to justify the black merchants by slaves? Do you prefer to be similar Savimbi and Bokassa or prefer critically to analyse? Can you to trust opinion of Menilik II about Russia? Do you see questions? why 2000 black men battled in party of the colonialists during the battle near Аdwa, but 50 Russian volunteers to battled in African army? Why Tolstoy had connection with Мenelik II? Why Tolstoy had connection with Gandhi? Why Gandhi had connection with M. L. King?
Sabimbi a criminal fanatic.
and then theres UNITA and Jonas Savimbi, and there we dont know too well, so let us support him, HAHHAHAHA.. CIA putos
Gotta completely disagree with the notion that "race" is irrelevant. Most if not all colonial powers either used religion or the pseudoscience of Eugenics among other excuses for the atrocities committed against the indigenous peoples of Africa, the Americas, Asia and Australia. Dehumanizing racism is why there were numerous genocides committed in those lands
For who's benefit. Don't adopt a self righteous tone so you can forgot that the Portuguese were invaders.