Okay I am genuinely surprised at who they interviewed for this. Like seriously. Kissinger. Castro. The faction leaders. State department officials. Goddamn.
@@grantgerson2492 what are you talking about? He was as corrupt as the day is long. And was heavily involved in very i American activities. He was a piece of shit who in fact did sell out. Over and over. He sold out his position for money. Favors for money. He brokered his influence for profit. Your so far from being correct it’s actually funny.
This is such an incredibly good series, I've watched it in its entirety probably more than 10 times. How they managed to get all of these key figures to sit down and speak so openly is beyond me.
Could you please tell me from which episode is this video from? I have the series but none of the episodes are named the Angolan Revolution. Haven't watch it in a long time.
@@cinefreak2307 hey Man, while I'm not sure which episode this clip is from, here is a link to someone's playlist of all 24, hour-long, original CNN broadcast episodes =) hope you enjoy friend th-cam.com/play/PL3H6z037pboGWTxs3xGP7HRGrQ5dOQdGc.html
holy shit yeah it is. I first read your comment and was like "nah this gonna be some bias CBB shit" and then Fidel Castro came on and I was like, yeah okay this is really good.
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
When I was a young man I sold real estate in Northern Ohio and I had the occasion to sell a home to a young former Vietnam veteran. He was a Huey pilot in Vietnam and had been employed by the CIA as a pilot in Uganda for one of the factions. The meeting with the VA mortgage broker was memorable. Early in the process my client was asked “and what is your monthly income?”. When he answered $45,000.00 the question was repeated, “no your monthly income, not your annual.”. That’s when my customer told him that $45,000.00 was what he was paid on a monthly basis and then he explained what he was paid to risk his life flying gorilla’s into combat.
How the fuck did they fit a single let alone multiple gorillas in a Huey? I know they can probably lift the weight but I don't think they could fit in there easily or follow orders well.
The mercenary dude’s face was absolutely haunting. It’s the hard understanding, but apathetic way he tilted to hint that emphasis on the word “dangerous.” War is spaz
By 1983 Soldier of Fortune magazine listed the number of Cubans at 50,000 troops. I was informed by a former SADF officer that the number of Cubans was very well double this figure. Add to that the modern armour and aircraft the USSR had brought into the conflict. The Cubans fought a delaying action until they could amass a better defensive position around Luanda. The South Africans simply did not have the troops and material to fight such an extensive bush war beyond it's own borders. With the sanctions and lack of visible allies, the RSA had enough trouble maintaining a presence in Namibia fighting SWAPO let alone a professional Cuban military.
That's good for the apartheid government of South Africa. They got there Ass whipped by Cuban trained Angola. That's good for colonialism oppression and self rule. With total Independence to govern Angola's affairs. Fidel Castro, is a brother of ours!
Cuba's Army was trained and professional in Ass kicking of the west. God, sent Cuba to liberate Luanda,Angola in November 11, 1975. Facts remain. Taking orders from South Africa's master America. Then America let them get spanked on the but!
I gotta say, this is pretty amazing. I expected a hard slant in favor of the U.S empire, but I found an attempted balanced and nuanced documentation with interviews from people ranging from Fidel Castro to Henry Kissinger, Neto to former CIA ops speaking frankly about lying to Congress. I was very impressed!
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
You know that a)Savimbi was a puppet from the Apartheid regime that was only supported by them in order for SWAPO and the ANC not having a base of support and b) he was also supported (from the beginning) by China, so you can't really say that he wasn't a "communist", and c) he was a literal cannibal and an ovibundu supremacist while the MPLA at least had bigger multi-ethnic support amongst its ranks.
@@armandovaiandando6472 there is always an individual who make a name in a revolution, for SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENTS... such kind of individual can be USED by any side mostly per world history, under the banner, "nationalist movement"...
it really is tragic that nobody thought "how about we just let them vote and let them have whoever they want as their leaders and how about we just stay at home" we just can't seem to help go ourselves.
That was the initial point of the meeting in Portugal. The US and a few other NATO allies weren't fans of the possibility of any left wing governments, much less a faction fairly openly aligned to the USSR. The first half of this video to me seems the US stoking the fire to prevent even a coalition government with any left wing faction.
Good question, other relevant questions could be, Why can't people have let Iran have their democratically elected government in 1953 ? Same for Chile in 1973 ? I think you and I both know why external forces organise coups, supply weapons to anti-government forces' etc. It's all an ideological war, communism vs capitalism or the left vs the right. In American eyes, anyone who is to the left of the political spectrum is a communist. More so now than ever.
@omonil Biff Having traveled the world... all I can say is that the U.S. is definitely not good, perhaps even evil to some, but they're DEFINITELY the LESSER evil out there. Imagine a world ruled by North Korea, or USSR, or today's Russia & China. You wouldn't even be able to leave comments like this. Just think about that for a second.
Was stuck there for 6 months during the war anchored in Luanda bay working on a merchant ship, it was a lawless hell-hole. Amongst other things was mugged three times, once at gunpoint by an armed policeman backed by two heavily armed militia lol. Eventually we were flown home but was tagged again on the way to the airport, woke up with a lump on my head and again no watch, wallet or shoes. Ended up boarding the plane in my stockinged feet so first stop on arriving in London was a shoe shop.
@CRAM MARC i agree, he was alluring to people because he was charismatic and used his charm to distract people from his intentions. He was paid by the white supremacist South African apartheid government. His ideology was meaningless as soon as he became a puppet of the capitalist states. I don’t think he event had an ideology to be honest, didn’t believe a thing he said nor practice what he preached. He said good words that feel good that we’re alluring but he had an agenda that did not align. Yeah he was a total lunatic in how he executed things. He was a murderous human that eventually ended up becoming another anti-communist war lord in the sea of CIA funded war lords.
@@NoahBodze By most dictionaries anything intended to influence opinion is propaganda. I think that's too broad. I would call this polemic, an expression of the polar views of the grayzone staff. I would call it propaganda if the grayzone were an instrument of a larger, unacknowledged, power structure. Once we might have said "aha they're Soviet assets", but that's gone. The Catholic church invented propaganda. It's the voice of power not of dissent.
That's bc Fox fried people's brains. Rupert Murdoch churned out right-wing opinion candy for the Chair Force Boomers; and called it "news", and made a pile of money from it. So CNN and MSNBC followed suit, only less right-wing (bc the Democrats ain't the left anymore).
This is a link to some random dude that has the full 24, 1 hour long original CNN broadcast episodes of the documentary series The Cold War that this clip is from. th-cam.com/play/PL3H6z037pboGWTxs3xGP7HRGrQ5dOQdGc.html It's an incredible, fantastic series that I highly recommend any and everyone watch. I'm mostly posting this because I got a message from someone named NoName asking if I had a link, but their message was deleted or something so I can't answer directly. I hope some of you enjoy these as much as I do. =) cheers mother fuckers.
My dad was from south Africa and was an artillery commander for the self propelled howitzers in the SADF war museum and old stories of him being the "Trader NPC"
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 you're a 🤡 Africa doesn't belong to blacks. Middle eastern people and early Europeans lived and traded in the Mediterranean for generations before subsaharans came north
Watched this so many times as an African it brakes my Hart to see 2 entire continents (Europe and America) team up to destroy everything that makes us human till this day #NO MORE!!
Unfortunately, after the death of Agostinho Neto the MPLA degenerated into a revisionist and neoliberal organization. Had Neto stayed alive to govern after independence, Angola would have taken a much different path and would probably be industrialized and fairly developed today
The Battle of Cuito Cuanavale ("...the last battle, of the war") = Cuba&Fapla vs SADF Tanks destroyed: 94 vs 3 Troop carriers destroyed: 100 vs 5 Logistical vehicles destroyed: 389 vs 1 Soldiers killed: 4 785 vs 31. ....I can really see the SADF "struggling"! The soldiers didn't loose.....the politicians just played chess with lives, that were not their own.
The SADF's objective was to defeat the MPLA's big offensive against UNITA. And that is what the operations in 1987-88 did. The Cubans and Angolans were defeated and retreated to Cuito Cuanavale. The intent was to push them back over the river and keep them on the other side of the river. The important thing to note is that there never was an actual "battle" at Cuito Cuanavale. The SADF had no interest in the town or taking the town because it was of no real value. The battle is usually claimed to have covered a period of seven months within which there were actually a series of different operations which were all successful. In the aftermath of the battle, various politicians spun the "battle" into an SADF loss due to the Tripartite Accord and due to the SAF not taking Cuito Cuanavale itself. But generally the Angolans at the time would spin any halt to SADF advances into Angola as a brilliant military victory. And the Tripartite Accord was a political decision that had nothing to do with success or failure on the battlefield by either side.
You left out the 3,000+ Unita fighters that the SADF was supposed to support. Also given this was APARTHEID South Africa, I think most of history is right to judge them poorly.
@@navajoguy8102 Basically, the South Africans pushed the "bleck" UNITA troops to the front lines while hiding in the rear of the formations. It's a very pathetic performance that highlights the moral bankruptcy of the South African regime.
@@navajoguy8102 History in the end didn't have much better to say about the Soviet Union, Castro's Cuba or the Angola of the MPLA than it did about South Africa. Today all the sides in the Angolan Civil War can generally be regarded as the bad guys. Perhaps the MPLA is the worst of all in that after decades of robbing hundreds of billions dollars in Angola, they are as firmly in power as ever.
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@whatwhat4052 You are quite right that I do not know much about the "modern" MPLA. What I do know is that the MPLA regime was responsible for around 200 000 political killings between 1975 and 1987 (the time period relevant to this video).
@@philipjooste9075 "Good guys indeed, employing child soldiers!" Lol it was a parade... Even in US to this day you have kids dressed in uniform with plastic guns being involved with pro-military parades. GTFO with this shit.
Thanks very much. All over the world colonialism resulted in revolutionaries who we're attracted to ideas the imperial power didn't like, naturally. This resulted in CIA funded counter-revolutionaries, mercenaries, and death squads, and of course Vietnam.
The odd thing about Angola is that the revolution was mostly supported by a several major international oil companies (including Chevron). The oil companies were working with the revolutionaries and various communist governments against the anti-communist political forces in the United States. The view within the companies was (and is) that colonialism was an economically inefficient system of economic exploitation. Colonialism wasted huge amounts of money on infrastructure and government programs which yielded no economic benefit. It was considered much more efficient to have a narrow elite military government in power (its ideology did not matter) who would understand the value of a resource-based "partnership" in the country where the partners would promise not to interfere in any way with the internal politics of the country. Hence we reached a point in Angola where Cuban Communist troops were providing security to western oil companies exploiting the resources of the country in partnership with a government whose outlook amounted to the worst sort of imperialist cooperation.
Hello, I'm from Angola, I'm over 30 years old, until today I don't see any country developing but we have many people and billionaires. riches of the Angolan people we have as riches; rivers, seas, fish, savannas, forests, woods, before oil, percurio, feltil mountain range for cultivation, good sun, until today after the end of the war the country is flies, nothing is left for the Angolan people and who governs the country they are not real children of Angola
Unita continued to receive USA aid for many years and the war only ended in 2002 after 9/11, USA decided that Savimbi (Unita leader) was a terrorist. Savimbi was very charismatic and a great war strategist but his speeches didn’t have the reconciliatory tone people were expecting, after all we were all brother fighting a pointless war. People were afraid to lose everything (including their lives) if he raised to power, yes, people knew that the Mpla was bad news but they could see (by Unita's actions throughout the war) that Savimbi had a very dark hidden agenda (many believed that deep down he was a psychopath)
@@addyred1861 "freed their country" they are in power for more than 20 years without free elections. They are stealing the people's money and giving the country to Chinese businessman
Those 3 Groups grapple for Power in Angola are Movement Popular Liberation of Angola or MPLA under Jose Neto backup by the Soviets, Cuban and East German and Front National Liberation of Angola or FNLA under Holden Roberto based in Zaire and the United Total Independence of Angola or UNITA under Leadership of Jonas Savimbi supported by the US, China and South Africa
Africa needs to unite and develop faster than ever. That’s the only way to prevent foreign interference. The entire continent would speak with one voice and no foreign powers can manipulate the system anymore
@@rioscordoba606 take a single broom stick and try to break it. Then take a bunch of broom sticks and try to break them as a bundle. That’ll give you your answer if you have any common sense.
@@Africa-Liberation-Army Yeah but those broom sticks been killing each others since the dawn of time. What if those broom sticks DONT want to hurdle together ? What if they share different interests and ideas and struggles ? Look at the bigger so u understand the problem with “a stick is weak but a bunch is strong”
If you mean open boarders then forget it we south africams are tired of foreing African men coming here disrespecting us like the white mand did in apartheid and thinking they can do what ever they like
The producers of the documentary were somewhat famous. They made a very popular documentary in the early 1970s called "World at War". Based on World at War, they were universally known and respected among major politicians in multiple countries.
nopes!! Angola depsite having very corrupt leaders! has kept a very good grip over its soveignty and natural resources!. This country needs to just get rid of The current generation of MPLA leaders just like all the african countries, In which the first ruling party after independence is still calling the shots like in Mozambique renamo, South Africa ANC, and Namibia SWAPO. As im pretty confident that once these parties leave power and a much younger generation takes Charge Africa can start breathing as most of those leader have war time trauma and were rebels turn into politicians. which is never a good thing.
In Luanda, you can drive through some parts of the industrial sector for more than 10 minutes straight without reading a single word in Portuguese. All boards and letterings in Chinese / broken English. Anywhere, if you see construction crews, it's with Chinese supervisors (making roads that will last a few years and then they'll do it again). Buildings it's the same (but granted, they last longer than just a couple of years, but not that long). Everywhere, you see "musseques" the size of cities, favelas filled with hundreds of thousands of people who can't find good work and so must live in squalor. The Chinese, however, have no trouble finding work, funded by the government in contracts that state that the chinese will bring their own people and only fill the occasional gaps with locals. 99,9% of Chinese have no interest in becoming locals though, they have their own schools and neighboorhoods, and buy from chinese shops, build with chinese raw materials, cutting out that part of Angolan economy and making it CCP Chinese for the duration of the work. They will take everything they got paid for and just leave, leaving bad roads & buildings behind that will need repairs soon enough, at which point they will grease the local politicians; put part of the money in the right pockets while they overprice for the shoddy work they re-do, and then carry back money home again, each time leaving the country poorer. But "nopes" lol. Some people don't even know how sold out they are, how much of angolan finances have been sequestered by the CCP. That's on them, since it's pretty damn obvious. Them, and the propaganda heavy authoritarian government which hides these things in plain sight. But the people are tired of conflict, so they just go along with it, keep their heads down and hope for the best. And since Angolans have a pretty open access to Portugal, the most resourceful of them just leave and make a better life for themselves abroad.
What is funny to see is that Angolans liberated themselves from Portugal......but only to allow MPLA to rule over the country, creating the one of the most rich political class of whole Africa, leaving the rest of the country in poverty. But this is not the first neither the last case of such madness.
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@meocean5499 Cuito cuanavale was at best indecisive, leaning towards and anti communist victory, not saying either way which side was right or wrong, but to say it was a major defeat is wildly inaccurate
They were never with Cuba and the USSR. They were always with the USA. The most important force in Angola during the civil war was the Chevron Oil company. The MPLA gave it whatever it wanted. The Cubans guarded its facilities and the Soviet Union paid the costs of the war to defend its oil production in Angola. dos Sanos (the leader of the MPLA for decades) was a great friend to American companies and the American government. The United States made him and his daughter two of the riches people in Africa.
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@shadowlord1418 you’re evaluating the word from your perspective. I don’t care wether or not you find it an insult or not it doesn’t matter. When I call you a colonizer am not calling you a conqueror, that’s the flexible nature of words. I am not judging your interpretation nor am I interested in that. I don’t care.
My mother supported MPLA because MPLA is fighting South Africa as black woman it was easy decision. She passed away 5 years ago she would be happy to see the president of Angola fought against Central Africa Republic UN arms embargo. We need One Africa
For that tribalism must first come to an end. One Africa is not going to happen until all tribalistic divisions still existing are brought toan end. Then there's corruption. This were the reasons Africa was easily invaded. Clean and put your house in order otherwise the same nonsense will replay
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies. The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@UC7BgtnCNOK_DhyOqteLu4xw The MPLA did the best. Angola is not only Luanda, and we have had 18 years of peace. And for that, what the MPLA has done is remarkably good. We are well positioned in geopolitical terms, we have ownership of our ressources, and we are inviting more and more socialist oriented countries from south east Asia, who are bringing their expertise to the country and improving the industrial sector, that will end our dependence on oil. NO government is perfect. And after 30 years of civil war with destroyed roads and mined fields you can’t do everything. But the MPLA made the best out of it, today’s the provinces are connected via roads and airports (all provinces), our fields are no longer mined and we’re investing in the agricultural sector. This video is a western propaganda. They’re trying to get Angola on board with liberalism since they have noticed Chinas take over in the Atlantic coast of Africa. Leave us alone. Fuck offf
Sounds morelike In the bookofjoel 3:2 and 3:12): "I will gather together all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Josaphat: "Then I will enter into judgment with them there", on behalf of my people and for My inheritance Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and they have divided up My land."; "Let the nations be roused; Let the nations be aroused And come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat, for there I will sit to judge all the nations on every side". This location is also referred to as the Valley of Decision.
Okay I am genuinely surprised at who they interviewed for this. Like seriously. Kissinger. Castro. The faction leaders. State department officials. Goddamn.
You can find pretty much the full series online for free now, it was really well done.
Henry Kissinger is a racist and proud racist.
@@grantgerson2492 well he’s dead. So a lotta good that did him.
@@dpedd12 at least he was free to run his country with out outside influence. The cowards couldn't kill him because he didn't sell out!
@@grantgerson2492 what are you talking about? He was as corrupt as the day is long. And was heavily involved in very i American activities. He was a piece of shit who in fact did sell out. Over and over. He sold out his position for money. Favors for money. He brokered his influence for profit. Your so far from being correct it’s actually funny.
This is such an incredibly good series, I've watched it in its entirety probably more than 10 times. How they managed to get all of these key figures to sit down and speak so openly is beyond me.
Could you please tell me from which episode is this video from? I have the series but none of the episodes are named the Angolan Revolution. Haven't watch it in a long time.
@@cinefreak2307 hey Man, while I'm not sure which episode this clip is from, here is a link to someone's playlist of all 24, hour-long, original CNN broadcast episodes =) hope you enjoy friend
th-cam.com/play/PL3H6z037pboGWTxs3xGP7HRGrQ5dOQdGc.html
holy shit yeah it is. I first read your comment and was like "nah this gonna be some bias CBB shit" and then Fidel Castro came on and I was like, yeah okay this is really good.
@@moosesnWoop right?? so stoked you're enjoying it man =)
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
“I don’t know anything about Angola, but Angola is in trouble. “ - Sir Charles Barkley
This is from Cold War - Good Guys Bad Guys [E17/24], if anyone wants to see the full video. It's about 46 minutes long.
Thank you MG for posting this.
“Sometime it’s too late to save a man. We must move out, before we join him in death” - Jonas Savimbi
Death to the MPLA!
@Roniixx *THEY ARE WEAK WE MUST FINISH THEM*
Psychos
Mpla 2022 fora
*_"You think I'm fucking nuts? This guy..."_*
_Frank Woods_
USA is like a villain pretending to be a hero
Facts
@@dominicdaley5702no it not facts just cuz you say so Normy
Yes they failed in Angola
Love these, why they aren't viewed and shared far and wide shows society's failings, thank you Sir 🙏
I think this is from the Ted Turner Cold War epic, brilliant series. Narrated by Kenneth Branagh and produced by Jeremy Isaacs
Um, maybe it's because the show is forty years old, not because "society's failings"
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@meocean5499 Many thanks for your efforts and I hope you have a prosperous and peaceful Christmas 🎅🎄☃️
When I was a young man I sold real estate in Northern Ohio and I had the occasion to sell a home to a young former Vietnam veteran. He was a Huey pilot in Vietnam and had been employed by the CIA as a pilot in Uganda for one of the factions. The meeting with the VA mortgage broker was memorable. Early in the process my client was asked “and what is your monthly income?”. When he answered $45,000.00 the question was repeated, “no your monthly income, not your annual.”. That’s when my customer told him that $45,000.00 was what he was paid on a monthly basis and then he explained what he was paid to risk his life flying gorilla’s into combat.
$45k a month as a combat pilot?
Poor gorillas 😢
GORILA WARFARE TOUGH GUY
@@Rodiraskal LOL... I hope he meant guerilla.
How the fuck did they fit a single let alone multiple gorillas in a Huey? I know they can probably lift the weight but I don't think they could fit in there easily or follow orders well.
Wonderful documentary after long time . Thanking you.
Thank you thank you thank you for uploading this.
The mercenary dude’s face was absolutely haunting. It’s the hard understanding, but apathetic way he tilted to hint that emphasis on the word “dangerous.” War is spaz
CIA.....you'd be hard pushed to find an organisation with more blood on its hands.
Try the russkies and all the murders those fine people do all the time
Kgb did damage to
@@figofigo7908yeah but they where smart enugh to not to be found out so we dont know as much about them so we give all the blame to the CIA now
@@SwedishDrunkard5963
Sounds like there is not as much evidence against the kgb atrocities than? If so how can we confidently assert they were as bad?
@@baptizednblood6813 we cant assert they where as bad
"Callan for instance, I've seldom seen such a good soldier. he had phenomenal courage!" "He was a psychopath"
hahaha
CIA always knows exactly who they are helping they certainly have a psychological profile of people they deal with.
this part killed me! proof of how perspective is vastly different among people.
😂😂😂 I thought the same
*Peace deal signed*
*CIA:* _And i took that personally!_
By 1983 Soldier of Fortune magazine listed the number of Cubans at 50,000 troops. I was informed by a former SADF officer that the number of Cubans was very well double this figure. Add to that the modern armour and aircraft the USSR had brought into the conflict. The Cubans fought a delaying action until they could amass a better defensive position around Luanda. The South Africans simply did not have the troops and material to fight such an extensive bush war beyond it's own borders. With the sanctions and lack of visible allies, the RSA had enough trouble maintaining a presence in Namibia fighting SWAPO let alone a professional Cuban military.
100k cubans is a totally nutty number.
Ummboy you must really believe the steaming bs you eat everyday. Good luck to your heirs !
@@orlymercado932 tf you talking about lol
That's good for the apartheid government of South Africa. They got there Ass whipped by Cuban trained Angola. That's good for colonialism oppression and self rule. With total Independence to govern Angola's affairs. Fidel Castro, is a brother of ours!
Cuba's Army was trained and professional in Ass kicking of the west. God, sent Cuba to liberate Luanda,Angola in November 11, 1975. Facts remain. Taking orders from South Africa's master America. Then America let them get spanked on the but!
I gotta say, this is pretty amazing. I expected a hard slant in favor of the U.S empire, but I found an attempted balanced and nuanced documentation with interviews from people ranging from Fidel Castro to Henry Kissinger, Neto to former CIA ops speaking frankly about lying to Congress. I was very impressed!
Especially in America non-biased reporting is rare
My grandfather lead a tank squadron for the Cuban army in Angola
your grandfather was a hero
Solidarity ♥️
thank you for this upload
I had a Portuguese friend of mine who fought with UNITA. The stories he had were amazing.
Can you share it or write a blog and send its link
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
unita supported apartheid..instead of angolian brothers.
You know that a)Savimbi was a puppet from the Apartheid regime that was only supported by them in order for SWAPO and the ANC not having a base of support and b) he was also supported (from the beginning) by China, so you can't really say that he wasn't a "communist", and c) he was a literal cannibal and an ovibundu supremacist while the MPLA at least had bigger multi-ethnic support amongst its ranks.
@@armandovaiandando6472 there is always an individual who make a name in a revolution, for SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENTS... such kind of individual can be USED by any side mostly per world history, under the banner, "nationalist movement"...
it really is tragic that nobody thought "how about we just let them vote and let them have whoever they want as their leaders and how about we just stay at home" we just can't seem to help go ourselves.
You know how the Americans are.
That was the initial point of the meeting in Portugal. The US and a few other NATO allies weren't fans of the possibility of any left wing governments, much less a faction fairly openly aligned to the USSR.
The first half of this video to me seems the US stoking the fire to prevent even a coalition government with any left wing faction.
Good question, other relevant questions could be, Why can't people have let Iran have their democratically elected government in 1953 ? Same for Chile in 1973 ? I think you and I both know why external forces organise coups, supply weapons to anti-government forces' etc. It's all an ideological war, communism vs capitalism or the left vs the right. In American eyes, anyone who is to the left of the political spectrum is a communist. More so now than ever.
@omonil Biff Having traveled the world... all I can say is that the U.S. is definitely not good, perhaps even evil to some, but they're DEFINITELY the LESSER evil out there. Imagine a world ruled by North Korea, or USSR, or today's Russia & China. You wouldn't even be able to leave comments like this. Just think about that for a second.
@@SteveL11 I think that the PRC and the USSR combined have committed less warcrimes than the USA
Incredible how this tidbit goes directly to the sources; many of them heavy hitters!
Was stuck there for 6 months during the war anchored in Luanda bay working on a merchant ship, it was a lawless hell-hole. Amongst other things was mugged three times, once at gunpoint by an armed policeman backed by two heavily armed militia lol. Eventually we were flown home but was tagged again on the way to the airport, woke up with a lump on my head and again no watch, wallet or shoes.
Ended up boarding the plane in my stockinged feet so first stop on arriving in London was a shoe shop.
N
All COD OPS fan know how badass was savimbi during the war
Death to the MPLA!!!!
DEATH TO THE MPLA!
@CRAM MARC his ideology was really bad
@CRAM MARC i agree, he was alluring to people because he was charismatic and used his charm to distract people from his intentions.
He was paid by the white supremacist South African apartheid government. His ideology was meaningless as soon as he became a puppet of the capitalist states. I don’t think he event had an ideology to be honest, didn’t believe a thing he said nor practice what he preached. He said good words that feel good that we’re alluring but he had an agenda that did not align. Yeah he was a total lunatic in how he executed things. He was a murderous human that eventually ended up becoming another anti-communist war lord in the sea of CIA funded war lords.
@@Matt-xc6sp FIGHT MY BRUTHAS!!!!
“DEATH TO THE MPLAAAA!!!!!”- Bo2
Beat me to it
I was waiting for this comment
Stockwells interviews are the stuff of legends
Man always blow my mind when I remember this was not 25 years ago
What is the name of the song aroumd 4.10 minute?.Help please.
Wow, it's a real headspin to be reminded that CNN was once quite good.
The DSMSM went south in 2001
How do you know this isn’t propaganda, too?
@@NoahBodze By most dictionaries anything intended to influence opinion is propaganda. I think that's too broad. I would call this polemic, an expression of the polar views of the grayzone staff. I would call it propaganda if the grayzone were an instrument of a larger, unacknowledged, power structure. Once we might have said "aha they're Soviet assets", but that's gone.
The Catholic church invented propaganda. It's the voice of power not of dissent.
That's bc Fox fried people's brains. Rupert Murdoch churned out right-wing opinion candy for the Chair Force Boomers; and called it "news", and made a pile of money from it. So CNN and MSNBC followed suit, only less right-wing (bc the Democrats ain't the left anymore).
This is a link to some random dude that has the full 24, 1 hour long original CNN broadcast episodes of the documentary series The Cold War that this clip is from.
th-cam.com/play/PL3H6z037pboGWTxs3xGP7HRGrQ5dOQdGc.html
It's an incredible, fantastic series that I highly recommend any and everyone watch. I'm mostly posting this because I got a message from someone named NoName asking if I had a link, but their message was deleted or something so I can't answer directly.
I hope some of you enjoy these as much as I do. =) cheers mother fuckers.
My dad was from south Africa and was an artillery commander for the self propelled howitzers in the SADF
war museum and old stories of him being the "Trader NPC"
2021: The USA is using the same tactics.
Hahaha afganistan and Nam
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@male princess So black people don't belong in Europe, in line with your reasoning
@@WolfgangVonKempelen838 Black people wouldn't be in Europe if the white man had never set foot in Africa. Timelines are a thing.
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 you're a 🤡 Africa doesn't belong to blacks. Middle eastern people and early Europeans lived and traded in the Mediterranean for generations before subsaharans came north
President FNLA: He had phenomenal courage
American: He was a psychopath ... A raging psychopath
HAHAHAHA
the not so fun thing is that americans decided to back the psyco knowing who he is and what can it do.
yeah trying to mute only the cuban part but you forgot there is a full documentary with sound also on youtube...
Watched this so many times as an African it brakes my Hart to see 2 entire continents (Europe and America) team up to destroy everything that makes us human till this day #NO MORE!!
They are called Gog and Magog.
The communist countries did their share too.
Not forgetting the psychological war waged by the west to cramble Africa these days
@@torstimyle1355 look at Ethiopia and west Africa
@@rockrabbit253 pretty much stated it
Unfortunately, after the death of Agostinho Neto the MPLA degenerated into a revisionist and neoliberal organization. Had Neto stayed alive to govern after independence, Angola would have taken a much different path and would probably be industrialized and fairly developed today
i love how the heroic music started playing when the cubans pulled up
Where is the part 2
Ethiopia
Sudan
Are currently at play
Cheers from west Africa
🦅
I question the value of all televised or published moment of history which guides a directive or enchourages a belief by a “victor”.
I went to conscripted army to fight against ‘die rooi gevaar’ [the rad danger] otherwise communism
What's with the audio quality? Is it just old?
*"You think I'm fucking nuts? This guy..."*
_Frank Woods_
The leader was used in Call of duty black ops 2 I noticed. From the first scene of the campaign.
The Battle of Cuito Cuanavale ("...the last battle, of the war") =
Cuba&Fapla vs SADF
Tanks destroyed: 94 vs 3
Troop carriers destroyed: 100 vs 5
Logistical vehicles destroyed: 389 vs 1
Soldiers killed: 4 785 vs 31.
....I can really see the SADF "struggling"!
The soldiers didn't loose.....the politicians just played chess with lives, that were not their own.
The SADF's objective was to defeat the MPLA's big offensive against UNITA. And that is what the operations in 1987-88 did. The Cubans and Angolans were defeated and retreated to Cuito Cuanavale. The intent was to push them back over the river and keep them on the other side of the river.
The important thing to note is that there never was an actual "battle" at Cuito Cuanavale. The SADF had no interest in the town or taking the town because it was of no real value. The battle is usually claimed to have covered a period of seven months within which there were actually a series of different operations which were all successful.
In the aftermath of the battle, various politicians spun the "battle" into an SADF loss due to the Tripartite Accord and due to the SAF not taking Cuito Cuanavale itself. But generally the Angolans at the time would spin any halt to SADF advances into Angola as a brilliant military victory. And the Tripartite Accord was a political decision that had nothing to do with success or failure on the battlefield by either side.
Most of the South Africans turned and fled like cowards. At least UNITA was brave enough to fight, loosing 3,000 men in the battle.
You left out the 3,000+ Unita fighters that the SADF was supposed to support.
Also given this was APARTHEID South Africa, I think most of history is right to judge them poorly.
@@navajoguy8102 Basically, the South Africans pushed the "bleck" UNITA troops to the front lines while hiding in the rear of the formations. It's a very pathetic performance that highlights the moral bankruptcy of the South African regime.
@@navajoguy8102 History in the end didn't have much better to say about the Soviet Union, Castro's Cuba or the Angola of the MPLA than it did about South Africa.
Today all the sides in the Angolan Civil War can generally be regarded as the bad guys. Perhaps the MPLA is the worst of all in that after decades of robbing hundreds of billions dollars in Angola, they are as firmly in power as ever.
Where is the rest of the video?
Thank you for this perspective on reality… (The penny drops with clarity and morals are nativities)
Where is the rest of it
And the man in suit define who is good and who is bad....
My only question has got to be, whose version of the story is this?
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@meocean5499 thank you for this comment. Very informative
@@meocean5499 ...and yours is the MPLA propagandist version. Perhaps one day you'll accept the truth.
@@philipjooste9075 youve never even seen the shores of Angola, much less have the knowledge to find an opinion on the modern MPLA.
@@whatwhat4052 You are quite right that I do not know much about the "modern" MPLA. What I do know is that the MPLA regime was responsible for around 200 000 political killings between 1975 and 1987 (the time period relevant to this video).
The MPLA sounds more like the good guy.
06:48 Good guys indeed, employing child soldiers!
Go over there and check it out for yourself
@@philipjooste9075
"Good guys indeed, employing child soldiers!"
Lol it was a parade...
Even in US to this day you have kids dressed in uniform with plastic guns being involved with pro-military parades.
GTFO with this shit.
LOL
consider the source provided
Where's the rest of it?
This is one of the ways they Fu@ked up my CONTINENT.
Subbed
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part2??
"We killed many today mason, Haha yes we all did" - savimbi BO2 campaign
@Roniixx im also communist. So what?
@Roniixx Not... really..no.
At least we agree on fascists.
@Roniixx and after that you think you are morally superior?
used to work with a mercenary who lost both his ears in angola was tough as old boots.
@@dukevalentino cut off by his own side
@@dukevalentino cos they were lead by a lunatic as u saw in the video above
@@dukevalentino if u look it up he was not the only one most got killed that was a punishment
@@dukevalentino yes m8
@@dukevalentino he was still doing the dangerous side of stuff so he defo didnt get enough to retire lol
Thanks very much. All over the world colonialism resulted in revolutionaries who we're attracted to ideas the imperial power didn't like, naturally. This resulted in CIA funded counter-revolutionaries, mercenaries, and death squads, and of course Vietnam.
And the communists funded the opposition.
The odd thing about Angola is that the revolution was mostly supported by a several major international oil companies (including Chevron). The oil companies were working with the revolutionaries and various communist governments against the anti-communist political forces in the United States. The view within the companies was (and is) that colonialism was an economically inefficient system of economic exploitation. Colonialism wasted huge amounts of money on infrastructure and government programs which yielded no economic benefit.
It was considered much more efficient to have a narrow elite military government in power (its ideology did not matter) who would understand the value of a resource-based "partnership" in the country where the partners would promise not to interfere in any way with the internal politics of the country.
Hence we reached a point in Angola where Cuban Communist troops were providing security to western oil companies exploiting the resources of the country in partnership with a government whose outlook amounted to the worst sort of imperialist cooperation.
"-Fresh Hunting Grounds for the Cold War Super Powers-". It's like watching "Walking with Dinosaurs" but with contemporary politics!
Wait a minute, is tis the same narrator from Walking With Dinosaurs???
yes, kenneth branagh
Hello, I'm from Angola, I'm over 30 years old, until today I don't see any country developing but we have many people and billionaires. riches of the Angolan people we have as riches; rivers, seas, fish, savannas, forests, woods, before oil, percurio, feltil mountain range for cultivation, good sun, until today after the end of the war the country is flies, nothing is left for the Angolan people and who governs the country they are not real children of Angola
Fact how come a few people succeed while majority lives In a bad condition ?
"Cold War" tv series
I think this was made by the BBC
17:20 he looks like jon bernthal
Unita continued to receive USA aid for many years and the war only ended in 2002 after 9/11, USA decided that Savimbi (Unita leader) was a terrorist. Savimbi was very charismatic and a great war strategist but his speeches didn’t have the reconciliatory tone people were expecting, after all we were all brother fighting a pointless war. People were afraid to lose everything (including their lives) if he raised to power, yes, people knew that the Mpla was bad news but they could see (by Unita's actions throughout the war) that Savimbi had a very dark hidden agenda (many believed that deep down he was a psychopath)
As pessoas aqui acham que o MPLA são santos sendo que eles não permitem eleições democráticas. Os crimes de savimbi não isentam a culpa do MPLA
@@joaoribeiro5938 they freed their country and kept the foreign powers from re imposing control. So glory to mpla
@@addyred1861 "freed their country" they are in power for more than 20 years without free elections. They are stealing the people's money and giving the country to Chinese businessman
Africa in the 70s:USA vs Soviets
Africa in 2024:Russia,China,European Union,USA
We never catch a break in this continent.
Freedom is hell
Here before Omicron
Lol
I am waiting for Omicron to have a TH-cam channel, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn!
😂
Omicron is just another lie,like Santa and the Easter bunny Stop listening to the MSM,they are in the pay of a bunch of political gangsters
Eu só posso falar: PQP, olha aí o nosso legado! 😒☹
You know damm well 4:51 is shooting live lethal rounds during a training boot camp for them kids
Kenneth branagh?
It’s interesting that Cuban soldiers were protecting American oil installations in Cabinda in the 1980’s
Those 3 Groups grapple for Power in Angola are Movement Popular Liberation of Angola or MPLA under Jose Neto backup by the Soviets, Cuban and East German and Front National Liberation of Angola or FNLA under Holden Roberto based in Zaire and the United Total Independence of Angola or UNITA under Leadership of Jonas Savimbi supported by the US, China and South Africa
Viva la revolution!
viva cuba solidaria!!!!!!
@3:24 sounds like a top bloke to me😊🎉
Falta coisas aí, eu sou angolano e parte dessa história foi mal contada
6:33 lmfao! 😂🤣😂🤣 *The South Africans where terrified of them* that’s some good indoctrination for you right there!!!
A socialist state at your door step who are anti-apartheid, of course Apartheid South Africa were scared
But South AFRICA had nuclear weapons back then.
@@bohemoth1 The South Africans were annihilated and rounted at Cuito Canavale.
Jonas Savimbi aka the guy from black ops 2
Africa needs to unite and develop faster than ever. That’s the only way to prevent foreign interference. The entire continent would speak with one voice and no foreign powers can manipulate the system anymore
Why do we need to unite to become a super power, when we can't even develop with smaller countries?
@@rioscordoba606 take a single broom stick and try to break it. Then take a bunch of broom sticks and try to break them as a bundle. That’ll give you your answer if you have any common sense.
@@Africa-Liberation-Army Yeah but those broom sticks been killing each others since the dawn of time. What if those broom sticks DONT want to hurdle together ? What if they share different interests and ideas and struggles ? Look at the bigger so u understand the problem with “a stick is weak but a bunch is strong”
@@rioscordoba606 This is the problem. You think Texas alon can beat russia or china? But in africa we are fools and hate our neighbors.
If you mean open boarders then forget it we south africams are tired of foreing African men coming here disrespecting us like the white mand did in apartheid and thinking they can do what ever they like
Why is that mercenary who states they tortured innocent people and killed randomly never behind bars?
@Plutarch Good but 30 years is nothing for what they did.
For the same reason the MPLA leaders who have looted the country of hundreds of billions of dollars are still in power.
@Plutarch Crazy and yet this bastard is recounting what he and his friends did with a smile and no remorse.
@@joshualifetree5398 go get him
Battle of Dead Road. Game set match
How did they get Kissinger and Castro for this??
The producers of the documentary were somewhat famous. They made a very popular documentary in the early 1970s called "World at War". Based on World at War, they were universally known and respected among major politicians in multiple countries.
Crazy to think that I was 1 year old when apartheid ended.
Don't the Chinese own it now?
nopes!! Angola depsite having very corrupt leaders! has kept a very good grip over its soveignty and natural resources!. This country needs to just get rid of The current generation of MPLA leaders just like all the african countries, In which the first ruling party after independence is still calling the shots like in Mozambique renamo, South Africa ANC, and Namibia SWAPO. As im pretty confident that once these parties leave power and a much younger generation takes Charge Africa can start breathing as most of those leader have war time trauma and were rebels turn into politicians. which is never a good thing.
@@KingclmLA is the corruption as bad as SA?
In Luanda, you can drive through some parts of the industrial sector for more than 10 minutes straight without reading a single word in Portuguese. All boards and letterings in Chinese / broken English.
Anywhere, if you see construction crews, it's with Chinese supervisors (making roads that will last a few years and then they'll do it again). Buildings it's the same (but granted, they last longer than just a couple of years, but not that long).
Everywhere, you see "musseques" the size of cities, favelas filled with hundreds of thousands of people who can't find good work and so must live in squalor. The Chinese, however, have no trouble finding work, funded by the government in contracts that state that the chinese will bring their own people and only fill the occasional gaps with locals. 99,9% of Chinese have no interest in becoming locals though, they have their own schools and neighboorhoods, and buy from chinese shops, build with chinese raw materials, cutting out that part of Angolan economy and making it CCP Chinese for the duration of the work. They will take everything they got paid for and just leave, leaving bad roads & buildings behind that will need repairs soon enough, at which point they will grease the local politicians; put part of the money in the right pockets while they overprice for the shoddy work they re-do, and then carry back money home again, each time leaving the country poorer.
But "nopes" lol. Some people don't even know how sold out they are, how much of angolan finances have been sequestered by the CCP. That's on them, since it's pretty damn obvious. Them, and the propaganda heavy authoritarian government which hides these things in plain sight. But the people are tired of conflict, so they just go along with it, keep their heads down and hope for the best. And since Angolans have a pretty open access to Portugal, the most resourceful of them just leave and make a better life for themselves abroad.
@@BernasLL like your observation. It makes total sense..
@@BernasLL how do Angolans have access to Portugal?
What is funny to see is that Angolans liberated themselves from Portugal......but only to allow MPLA to rule over the country, creating the one of the most rich political class of whole Africa, leaving the rest of the country in poverty. But this is not the first neither the last case of such madness.
Muzzle discipline bro....
When the CIA describes someone as the "bad guys" you know they're the only good guys around.
and America is the bad Guy
@@humbulanimulaudzi7185 They're the terrorist who are present on someone else nation doing chaos
@@haikalhadzik7744
And those someone else nation drag US there for some good reasons
Nah, generally its bad guys on all sides after a thing like this has been going for a little while, no matter how things start.
@@haikalhadzik7744 and the soviets and Cubans weren’t doing the same? They did more in this situation actually
I don't know why but I feel Gerald R Ford is the most unrecognized president of America in recent times
President Ford was a good man. He really helped us in Oklahoma. RIP President Ford
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@meocean5499 Damn you've got the story man.
@@meocean5499 Cuito cuanavale was at best indecisive, leaning towards and anti communist victory, not saying either way which side was right or wrong, but to say it was a major defeat is wildly inaccurate
My dad was a spy for the South African army in Angola in 1975
Call of duty black ops 2
OUR JOURNEY TO VICTORY HAS BEGUN! DEATH TO THE MPLA!
15:47 Looks like Keith Richards.
they were better off with Cuba and the USSR there than they would have been with the USA and South Africa
They were never with Cuba and the USSR. They were always with the USA. The most important force in Angola during the civil war was the Chevron Oil company. The MPLA gave it whatever it wanted. The Cubans guarded its facilities and the Soviet Union paid the costs of the war to defend its oil production in Angola.
dos Sanos (the leader of the MPLA for decades) was a great friend to American companies and the American government. The United States made him and his daughter two of the riches people in Africa.
10:39 this guy made me sit out my beer. LMAO typical South African hahahaha
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@@meocean5499 imagine using colonizer like an insult
@@shadowlord1418 imagine calling facts an insult.
@@meocean5499 being called a coloniser is no insult it just means my people conquered yours
@@shadowlord1418 you’re evaluating the word from your perspective. I don’t care wether or not you find it an insult or not it doesn’t matter. When I call you a colonizer am not calling you a conqueror, that’s the flexible nature of words. I am not judging your interpretation nor am I interested in that. I don’t care.
Call of duty Black ops
Savimbi: Our journey to victory has begun! DEATH TO THE MPLA!!!!
My mother supported MPLA because MPLA is fighting South Africa as black woman it was easy decision. She passed away 5 years ago she would be happy to see the president of Angola fought against Central Africa Republic UN arms embargo. We need One Africa
For that tribalism must first come to an end. One Africa is not going to happen until all tribalistic divisions still existing are brought toan end. Then there's corruption. This were the reasons Africa was easily invaded. Clean and put your house in order otherwise the same nonsense will replay
Was she happy that the MPLA did nothing to improve the lives of the people and that the elites stole all the oil wealth ?
As an Angolan let me tell you, this is the COLONIZER version of the story. Why, because APARTHEID SOUTHAFRICA only got involved in this war to keep its control over Namibia, and after they suffered a heavy defeat in Kuito Kuanavale (if you want the name of the Angolan generals who led the clash, go to the official site of the FAA, Angolan armed forces)- the white racist imperial regime of South Africa, retreated and not one year later Namibia gained its independence. However, when the remaining white soldiers got home, they created the narrative that they defeated the communists, when in truth they suffered the defeat. When the USA recognized that the MPLA had in its mind relatively opening up the economy, it was then that it has decided to give away the location of the UNITA leader. This Video, is a total lie. White imperialist felt belittled when they lost against negros. The South Africans they’re talking about here, is the regime that oppressed Mandela, that’s why Cuba got involved. Cuz, back then, Socialist countries supported each other. THIS SIDE OF THE STORY, is a white imperialist one, with no actual evidence of victory. THEH GAVE UP NAMIBIA AFTER KUITO KUANAVALE, is all you have to know about who won and who lost this battle. BIG L on this channel. White people love to manufacture lies.
The president of NAMIBIA was recently in Angola and thanked Angolans for their impact in the acquiring their independence, on another note, SouthAfrican president Ramaphosa was in talks with the Angolan leader to build a monument in Angola about the house in Angola that received many BLACK SOITH AFRICAN SOLDIERS who also fought at Kuito Kuanavale, because they knew, they were also fighting against an apartheid regime, and against The expansion of the white power structure in Southern Africa.
@UC7BgtnCNOK_DhyOqteLu4xw The MPLA did the best. Angola is not only Luanda, and we have had 18 years of peace. And for that, what the MPLA has done is remarkably good. We are well positioned in geopolitical terms, we have ownership of our ressources, and we are inviting more and more socialist oriented countries from south east Asia, who are bringing their expertise to the country and improving the industrial sector, that will end our dependence on oil. NO government is perfect. And after 30 years of civil war with destroyed roads and mined fields you can’t do everything. But the MPLA made the best out of it, today’s the provinces are connected via roads and airports (all provinces), our fields are no longer mined and we’re investing in the agricultural sector. This video is a western propaganda. They’re trying to get Angola on board with liberalism since they have noticed Chinas take over in the Atlantic coast of Africa. Leave us alone. Fuck offf
@Plutarch you wish!!!! AFRICA WILL BE GREAT AGAIN
There always pay the two parties the only people who are suffering are the people
Ugh. Such needless and stupid death and destruction
CIA-Military interventions Nicaragua, Panama, Cuba, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Grenada, Haiti, Lebanon, Iran, Somalia, Bosnia, Angola... Not in chronological order.
Ambuious morality.
Among the mercenaries was at least one woman.
Cubas Most Profitable Export during the Cold War was Soldiers/Mercenaries
And Cubans.
Sounds morelike In the bookofjoel 3:2 and 3:12): "I will gather together all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Josaphat: "Then I will enter into judgment with them there", on behalf of my people and for My inheritance Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and they have divided up My land."; "Let the nations be roused; Let the nations be aroused And come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat, for there I will sit to judge all the nations on every side". This location is also referred to as the Valley of Decision.