We fell short, but it It was such an exhilarating team to watch - and the fans who could completely identify with the players and feel the effort they put in were like a single living breathing organism before during and after games. It won't be replicated.
I remember the complete emptiness and despair I felt after that cup final - same as most big matches if we lost in those days and through the 80s, and the total and utter joy when we won them. Sadly I don't seem to get the same feelings nowadays.
Pretty much sums up fans of yours and my (a decade later) eras. The first Cup loss I experienced was Sheffield Wednesday in the League Cup in 1991, which was pretty numbing but the Cup Winners' Cup victory remedied that immediately. The FA Cup though was, and still is to me, far more significant. Before the 'modern era' the FA Cup was everything, Big Norm's goal kept me going for years until 1990, despite Liverpool. The worst I've felt was the title run-in 1991/92, I'm serious when I say I'm not fully over it. Maybe the massive success under Fergie, and underwhelming mediocrity since has combined to form this apathy. Who knows?
For us Saints fans, that victory has meant everything to us. Nothing else to show in our entire history, so I hope you don’t begrudge us the win too much!
I wasn't even born so I can't really ;) You wanted it more on the day, we didn't take our chances and the Doc said, 'The better side won and you're a nice club', so I'll survive. BTW do you think the winner was offside? :)
Great video well done.I was fifteen years old in 75 went to most games home and away. Even went to the odd reserve game, in the scoreboard paddock for the tokens .I was at Wembley v Saints so very disappointing but I went back in 77 to see us beat the scousers Yipe
The 1976 F.A Cup final was the 1st i ever saw on a colour T.V set, i was 9 yrs old & we had a B&W set in our house so a couple of mate's & I watched the Man Utd Vs Saint's game at the village's Boy Scout Master's house & he was a die-hard red. At full time he was hugely disappointed & i was made up for seeing the game in colour so could talk big on the Monday a.m. Incredible upset as the yellow shirted Saints scored late on from the edge of the box. When Utd did win the cup in later yrs Grown men would drive round our small North Wales village dangerously hanging out + off cars with horns blaring & flags/ scarfs waved The 70s & 80s when us normal folk could afford the few £££s to watch a 1st Division match. Great post mate, sorry to waffle.
Not waffle at all Russell, I love these personal anecdotes. My first-ever Cup Final was 1985, so I had some more luck. The next video will be a follow-up, like a 2-parter, which will be more palatable, the 1976/77 campaign. ;)
@@gadaboutunited The 85 final was an absolute epic. Utd playing for so long with 10 men after K. Morans red card & then N . Whitesides gem of a goal. Very few overseas players & the FA cup back then was cherished very highly. At 58 i still watch the final every year no matter who contests it or where i am. Cheers + good luck.
I was there but im a villa fan i still have the stubbs , utd and villa 1st and 2nd in the 2nd division, in 1975 3 games at villa park was all ticket , UTD , WBA and Birmingham the ticket price was 40p the following season 76/77 the price increased to 50p and i have the Stubbs for those games aswell
Terrific. We had some tremendous battles during that era and into the '80's. I am really not looking forward to Sunday to be fair, but then I wasn't for the same fixture last year but we got away with it.
@@gadaboutunited UTD are villa's bogey team and you still manage the double over us last season , overall utd have a very good record over villa in the last 50 year
Thanks for this, great content and commentary. Still now my favourite ever season as a United fan. I went to every home game and the cup semi final at Hillsborough and also Wembley. At only 12 years old I couldn't travel with the Red Army, that came a few years later....
Cheers Tony, too kind. Loved doing these as so many of my Subs and Members on my Facebook Group of the same name - Gadabout United - love this side. Hope you enjoy the one previous, albeit not as sweet an ending, the 1975/76 season.
Red Army travelling up & down the country, drinking began Friday night & continued till we got home Sunday morning. Puting towns & cities to the sword! Ah "those were the days my friend 🎶 " All good fun. & then there was the football ⚽ 😂
There's a 'Legends' video on here on Sammy Mac that you might be interested in. Also, I did one on one of my all-time heroes, Big Norm, as well as quite a recent one on the heroic Harry Gregg. Enjoy. I have a lot of time for the Irish on both sides of the border.
These days can never, & will never be experienced again. At least 90% of All players in All four divisions were British, it was still a contact sport played by tough Men, with hardly any cheating & 'diving' ~ 'OK' apart from the odd FA Cup run, United won very little, but 'by God' they were entertaining & always gave everything ~ Glad to have lived it.
As someone who supported the United a decade after this, is never ceases to amaze me how much adoration they mustered for such a mediocre period for the club. The fans' passion never seemed higher.
@@gadaboutunited Quite true. I'm from Rochdale, (10 miles north of Manchester) & was first 'allowed' to go to Old Trafford when I was 15 (1975) & the place, despite the comparative lack of real success in the period, absolutely Captivated me ~ Great days !
Different era, what he did was gross misconduct, both he and the physio's wife were married and he would send Laurie Brown on erroneous scouting trips to be able to shtup her... Fired for non-footballing reasons but when he began the affair it was a ticking time bomb sadly. Who knows how we could have done had The Doc stayed on. As I am sure you know, the United directors' wives are rumoured to have put their collective point across to their husbands...
@gadaboutunited Yeah but men fall in love with women all the time. Look what Eric did but Fergie kept him cos it was best for the club. Sacking the Doc was not best for the club. We wouldn't have waited 26 years with him in charge
I am definitely going to do 1976/77 next to kind of 'part 2' to this one. As for that season, I will probably revisit the '70's and do it eventually. In the meantime, I have done several United 'legends' videos on Buchan, Pancho, Macari and Coppell, which might be interesting to you. Before I started this, The '70's is the era for United that I pretty much knew the least about but it's by far the most popular amongst viewers on here. Says a lot.
@@gadaboutunited Yes I've subscribed and will definitely be giving the other videos a go! Yep,the mid to late 70s and early 80s were definitely 'my' era. I met 3 of the lads after one of the home games in the executive suite (Arsenal November 1977 unfortunately lost 1-2) Martin Buchan, Lou Macari and Brian Greenhoff (RIP) They were great, I've still got the programme they signed for me. I also had my photo taken with the FA Cup (it was in the glass cabinet, couldn't actually pick it up!)
ahh!!...good old Paddy Roche....i remember we used to chant his name..and the other half sang for Alex Stepney...it was good humoured banter among the fans....Paddy was probably the worst goalkeeper united ever had, he was a sort of "eddie the eagle" of the goalkeeper fraternity...but you just couldn't help not liking him...he didnt help his cause, when true to his irish roots, he insisted on playing with his "wellies" on.....happy days indeed..lol
Couple of issues with the league tables you display. Firstly. I've never ever seen a "points won by opposition" in the points column before. Adds nothing but confusion. Secondly, you show the goal difference in the table, but in 1975/76 league positions of teams tied on points won were decided by goal average not difference. This was the last season that such a calculation was used (goals scored divided by goals conceded) as it did nothing to discourage defensive tactics. Only from the following season, 1976/77, did goal difference become the standard. To be authentic, United should be shown finishing the season with a goal average of 1.62!
I can't argue with anything you said, also to be fair and more obvious to me but you didn't mention is that in those days rarely did you have all the sides on the same number of games at the end of each round of fixtures, never mind month.. There was actually a part I cut from this video as it was running long that mentions rarely did all the sides finish their league programmes on the final day, indeed the QPR boys had to watch in the studio as Liverpool went to Wolves and won their last game to clinch the title after being a goal down. Even before reading all of the factual issues that you have highlighted, I had already tried to remedy this by having looked in several places for league tables that I can use either game-on-game or month by month, as I have done several of these types of videos. However, this was the best I could procure. If you have any recommendations that could assist in my next video, which is the 1976/77 campaign as a follow-up to this one, I would be very grateful. This was the site I got it from was this www.worldfootball.net/schedule/eng-premier-league-1975-1976-spieltag/6/ so all issues should be directed at them to be fair. Whilst I did make the artistic choice to use them, so I must take some of the criticism directly, as mentioned above I didn't have a great deal of choice I'm afraid. If I wanted purely accurate table I would have to find every First Division result for each day it was played and enter the information manually to produce a table true to what actually happened but I'm sure you can appreciate that my time is limited. Regardless, to counter some of your feedback, you will notice if you change the year to a more recent season, it does become more intelligible. Thanks for the constructive criticism, I really do appreciate your feedback..
You inspired me to look for a better alternative, and I've found one. I will implement their version of the tables in my next video. They have remedied all the issues both you and I had with them.
Yeah, I listened through and realised what I said and hoped no-one would notice... you were the first comment in over 3,000 views - fair play. Spot on. :) PS For the record, I worked with a guy called Steve Daley, hence the mistake. Not a bad excuse, just an annoying reason. ;)
@@gadaboutunited great vid from a Liverpool fan, understandable mistake considering you werent born! Steve Daley played for Wolves afaik. Gerry was RoI international, good on on pens, sold soon after that to Derby.
Fun fact: More people know that when you say, 'United' in relation to football, that you mean Manchester United, than people who use an apostrophe in the word, 'lots'. But you should watch the video, footage from both games, United Vs. Sheffield Unted that season.
@@gadaboutunited Here's a fun fact got you too. Most fans of other United's find it really arrogant of Man U fans to simply call themselves "United". I was at the game at Bramall Lane that season - it was my 4th season as a season ticket holder - and like most Blades I've seen many things Man U fans will never have experienced.
@@ianlayton6949 To be fair, this was something given to us by neutrals and you can see examples everywhere, but here's two. If you watch only footy on TH-cam from the 1940's, the commentary will not only refer to my club as, 'United', but 'The United', in the same way that it's called, 'The Arsenal' in some quarters - I think you would've exploded had that stuck :). Further, I was watching the brilliant, 'Match of the '70's, and it was Leeds Vs. United, and Dennis Waterman, who is a Chelsea fan I think, referred to Manchester United as 'United', and Leeds United as 'Leeds'. Man United wouldn't be called 'United' without the support of non-Reds, and when I mean 'non-Reds', I don't mean, Liverpool, Nottingham Forest or Bristol City fans...
Yeah, someone else spotted that. Slip of the tongue. Why on earth did the Doc sell Gerry? I am doing the follow up, the 1976/77 campaign and I just don't get it.
We fell short, but it It was such an exhilarating team to watch - and the fans who could completely identify with the players and feel the effort they put in were like a single living breathing organism before during and after games. It won't be replicated.
I remember the complete emptiness and despair I felt after that cup final - same as most big matches if we lost in those days and through the 80s, and the total and utter joy when we won them. Sadly I don't seem to get the same feelings nowadays.
Pretty much sums up fans of yours and my (a decade later) eras.
The first Cup loss I experienced was Sheffield Wednesday in the League Cup in 1991, which was pretty numbing but the Cup Winners' Cup victory remedied that immediately. The FA Cup though was, and still is to me, far more significant. Before the 'modern era' the FA Cup was everything, Big Norm's goal kept me going for years until 1990, despite Liverpool. The worst I've felt was the title run-in 1991/92, I'm serious when I say I'm not fully over it.
Maybe the massive success under Fergie, and underwhelming mediocrity since has combined to form this apathy. Who knows?
@@gadaboutunited The European Cup final vs Bayern was my 90s standout moment without a doubt - sadly I was on evening shift at work!
As a Northen italian love the English football since 70s and 80s years!! Also the stadium was amazing ❤!!
For us Saints fans, that victory has meant everything to us. Nothing else to show in our entire history, so I hope you don’t begrudge us the win too much!
I wasn't even born so I can't really ;) You wanted it more on the day, we didn't take our chances and the Doc said, 'The better side won and you're a nice club', so I'll survive. BTW do you think the winner was offside? :)
I think I've just about forgiven you😁. Glad to see you back in the Premier League.
Great video well done.I was fifteen years old in 75 went to most games home and away. Even went to the odd reserve game, in the scoreboard paddock for the tokens .I was at Wembley v Saints so very disappointing but I went back in 77 to see us beat the scousers Yipe
Cheers mate, that 1976/77 season is next up. :)
The 1976 F.A Cup final was the 1st i ever saw on a colour T.V set, i was 9 yrs old & we had a B&W set in our house so a couple of mate's & I watched the Man Utd Vs Saint's game at the village's Boy Scout Master's house & he was a die-hard red. At full time he was hugely disappointed & i was made up for seeing the game in colour so could talk big on the Monday a.m. Incredible upset as the yellow shirted Saints scored late on from the edge of the box. When Utd did win the cup in later yrs Grown men would drive round our small North Wales village dangerously hanging out + off cars with horns blaring & flags/ scarfs waved The 70s & 80s when us normal folk could afford the few £££s to watch a 1st Division match. Great post mate, sorry to waffle.
Not waffle at all Russell, I love these personal anecdotes. My first-ever Cup Final was 1985, so I had some more luck.
The next video will be a follow-up, like a 2-parter, which will be more palatable, the 1976/77 campaign. ;)
@@gadaboutunited The 85 final was an absolute epic. Utd playing for so long with 10 men after K. Morans red card & then N . Whitesides gem of a goal. Very few overseas players & the FA cup back then was cherished very highly. At 58 i still watch the final every year no matter who contests it or where i am. Cheers + good luck.
Truly happy days. Wonderful exciting attacking football. LMTB Stretford Paddock.
Remember it very well great exciting football and the best support in the league loved it 👍
just goes to show what a manager who knows what hes doing ,can put a great team together without spending millions
Went to every game that season great days
Red Army !
Had no idea about this era great effort mate. Gordon hill and daly were something else !
Great video mate just subscribed,
I am a hull city fan , when we had pancho pearson he was class,
Great guy as well as a good striker,
Cheers Colin. I actually did an early video, so it's a bit raw on Pancho, he is so well-loved that it's one of my most popular.
That was the first season I started following following all City's games in detail.
Not much in this vid for you but maybe some memories of the season anyway.
I was there but im a villa fan i still have the stubbs , utd and villa 1st and 2nd in the 2nd division, in 1975 3 games at villa park was all ticket , UTD , WBA and Birmingham the ticket price was 40p the following season 76/77 the price increased to 50p and i have the Stubbs for those games aswell
Terrific. We had some tremendous battles during that era and into the '80's. I am really not looking forward to Sunday to be fair, but then I wasn't for the same fixture last year but we got away with it.
@@gadaboutunited UTD are villa's bogey team and you still manage the double over us last season , overall utd have a very good record over villa in the last 50 year
Great video Gordon Hill what aplayer great team and unbelievable support
Thanks for this, great content and commentary. Still now my favourite ever season as a United fan. I went to every home game and the cup semi final at Hillsborough and also Wembley. At only 12 years old I couldn't travel with the Red Army, that came a few years later....
Cheers Tony, too kind. Loved doing these as so many of my Subs and Members on my Facebook Group of the same name - Gadabout United - love this side.
Hope you enjoy the one previous, albeit not as sweet an ending, the 1975/76 season.
Red Army travelling up & down the country, drinking began Friday night & continued till we got home Sunday morning. Puting towns & cities to the sword! Ah "those were the days my friend 🎶 " All good fun. & then there was the football ⚽ 😂
this was my team as a 16 year old attacking football at its best sammy mac and dee mcreary fellow irish men god rest the doc
There's a 'Legends' video on here on Sammy Mac that you might be interested in. Also, I did one on one of my all-time heroes, Big Norm, as well as quite a recent one on the heroic Harry Gregg. Enjoy.
I have a lot of time for the Irish on both sides of the border.
and with Old Trafford now a managers graveyard where is that Tommy Docherty type to take on everything and everyone at Old Trafford
These days can never, & will never be experienced again. At least 90% of All players in All four divisions were British, it was still a contact sport played by tough Men, with hardly any cheating & 'diving' ~ 'OK' apart from the odd FA Cup run, United won very little, but 'by God' they were entertaining & always gave everything ~ Glad to have lived it.
As someone who supported the United a decade after this, is never ceases to amaze me how much adoration they mustered for such a mediocre period for the club. The fans' passion never seemed higher.
@@gadaboutunited Quite true. I'm from Rochdale, (10 miles north of Manchester) & was first 'allowed' to go to Old Trafford when I was 15 (1975) & the place, despite the comparative lack of real success in the period, absolutely Captivated me ~ Great days !
Proper football days out
I remember this season like it was yesterday
On the coach Saturday morning and off we go
Happy days 👍👍👍
Loved the way the Doc had them playing. Still can't believe they sacked him
Different era, what he did was gross misconduct, both he and the physio's wife were married and he would send Laurie Brown on erroneous scouting trips to be able to shtup her... Fired for non-footballing reasons but when he began the affair it was a ticking time bomb sadly. Who knows how we could have done had The Doc stayed on. As I am sure you know, the United directors' wives are rumoured to have put their collective point across to their husbands...
@gadaboutunited Yeah but men fall in love with women all the time. Look what Eric did but Fergie kept him cos it was best for the club. Sacking the Doc was not best for the club. We wouldn't have waited 26 years with him in charge
Would love it if you did a 'Season as a United Fan 1977/78 - my first season ticket!
I am definitely going to do 1976/77 next to kind of 'part 2' to this one. As for that season, I will probably revisit the '70's and do it eventually.
In the meantime, I have done several United 'legends' videos on Buchan, Pancho, Macari and Coppell, which might be interesting to you.
Before I started this, The '70's is the era for United that I pretty much knew the least about but it's by far the most popular amongst viewers on here. Says a lot.
@@gadaboutunited Yes I've subscribed and will definitely be giving the other videos a go! Yep,the mid to late 70s and early 80s were definitely 'my' era. I met 3 of the lads after one of the home games in the executive suite (Arsenal November 1977 unfortunately lost 1-2) Martin Buchan, Lou Macari and Brian Greenhoff (RIP) They were great, I've still got the programme they signed for me. I also had my photo taken with the FA Cup (it was in the glass cabinet, couldn't actually pick it up!)
My team QPR should have won it,but the fa decided to give Liverpool a long break before their last game
You're right, 2 weeks break between their last 2 matches.
Damn shame :(
Wouldve been terrific mate.
One year is enogh. Watching thst
The follow video for the 1976/77, will have a better ending.
ahh!!...good old Paddy Roche....i remember we used to chant his name..and the other half sang for Alex Stepney...it was good humoured banter among the fans....Paddy was probably the worst goalkeeper united ever had, he was a sort of "eddie the eagle" of the goalkeeper fraternity...but you just couldn't help not liking him...he didnt help his cause, when true to his irish roots, he insisted on playing with his "wellies" on.....happy days indeed..lol
Couple of issues with the league tables you display.
Firstly. I've never ever seen a "points won by opposition" in the points column before. Adds nothing but confusion.
Secondly, you show the goal difference in the table, but in 1975/76 league positions of teams tied on points won were decided by goal average not difference. This was the last season that such a calculation was used (goals scored divided by goals conceded) as it did nothing to discourage defensive tactics. Only from the following season, 1976/77, did goal difference become the standard. To be authentic, United should be shown finishing the season with a goal average of 1.62!
I can't argue with anything you said, also to be fair and more obvious to me but you didn't mention is that in those days rarely did you have all the sides on the same number of games at the end of each round of fixtures, never mind month.. There was actually a part I cut from this video as it was running long that mentions rarely did all the sides finish their league programmes on the final day, indeed the QPR boys had to watch in the studio as Liverpool went to Wolves and won their last game to clinch the title after being a goal down.
Even before reading all of the factual issues that you have highlighted, I had already tried to remedy this by having looked in several places for league tables that I can use either game-on-game or month by month, as I have done several of these types of videos. However, this was the best I could procure. If you have any recommendations that could assist in my next video, which is the 1976/77 campaign as a follow-up to this one, I would be very grateful.
This was the site I got it from was this www.worldfootball.net/schedule/eng-premier-league-1975-1976-spieltag/6/ so all issues should be directed at them to be fair. Whilst I did make the artistic choice to use them, so I must take some of the criticism directly, as mentioned above I didn't have a great deal of choice I'm afraid. If I wanted purely accurate table I would have to find every First Division result for each day it was played and enter the information manually to produce a table true to what actually happened but I'm sure you can appreciate that my time is limited. Regardless, to counter some of your feedback, you will notice if you change the year to a more recent season, it does become more intelligible.
Thanks for the constructive criticism, I really do appreciate your feedback..
You inspired me to look for a better alternative, and I've found one. I will implement their version of the tables in my next video. They have remedied all the issues both you and I had with them.
Greenhoffs both playing for england
Jimmy never played in a full international for his country, and didn't feature in this video but he will be in the next one :)
7.00 ''two Steve Daly pens''.......... surely you mean 'Gerry Daly'
Yeah, I listened through and realised what I said and hoped no-one would notice... you were the first comment in over 3,000 views - fair play. Spot on. :)
PS For the record, I worked with a guy called Steve Daley, hence the mistake. Not a bad excuse, just an annoying reason. ;)
@@gadaboutunited great vid from a Liverpool fan, understandable mistake considering you werent born! Steve Daley played for Wolves afaik. Gerry was RoI international, good on on pens, sold soon after that to Derby.
Ah - THAT United.
You know there are lot's of Uniteds and Man U aren't even the first.
Up the Blades! 😅
Fun fact: More people know that when you say, 'United' in relation to football, that you mean Manchester United, than people who use an apostrophe in the word, 'lots'.
But you should watch the video, footage from both games, United Vs. Sheffield Unted that season.
@@gadaboutunited
Here's a fun fact got you too. Most fans of other United's find it really arrogant of Man U fans to simply call themselves "United".
I was at the game at Bramall Lane that season - it was my 4th season as a season ticket holder - and like most Blades I've seen many things Man U fans will never have experienced.
@@ianlayton6949 To be fair, this was something given to us by neutrals and you can see examples everywhere, but here's two.
If you watch only footy on TH-cam from the 1940's, the commentary will not only refer to my club as, 'United', but 'The United', in the same way that it's called, 'The Arsenal' in some quarters - I think you would've exploded had that stuck :).
Further, I was watching the brilliant, 'Match of the '70's, and it was Leeds Vs. United, and Dennis Waterman, who is a Chelsea fan I think, referred to Manchester United as 'United', and Leeds United as 'Leeds'. Man United wouldn't be called 'United' without the support of non-Reds, and when I mean 'non-Reds', I don't mean, Liverpool, Nottingham Forest or Bristol City fans...
Come on steve daly sort it out
Yeah, someone else spotted that. Slip of the tongue. Why on earth did the Doc sell Gerry? I am doing the follow up, the 1976/77 campaign and I just don't get it.