German Paragliding Open Ager 2022 (strong winds & hot ships)

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  • Coincidentally we were flying in Ager when the German paragliding open 2022 was on. The winds and conditions were a bit lively for me so i decided to film some of the stylish takeoffs that can be found.
    The organisers did a epic job, the safety team and launch marshalls made some difficult but necessary calls.Impressive!
    However strong winds & hot ships mixed with the desire to fly & win.
    To take off in a timed window when the pressure was on made for some interesting launches. Throwing caution to the wind at the expense of the glider.
    Don't get me wrong no one stacked it too bad & the pilots are super impressive & have outstanding skill sets, but this just goes to show you can never do enough ground handling.
    So if your just starting out on your paragliding adventure maybe this video is for u. Get out and practice!
    see with a little more ground handling you can be as good if not better than some of your peers.
    P R A C T I C E it will come!
    To be fair they all looked pretty cool in the air!
    Rather you than me on these days though.
    Fair play :-)
    ni

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  • @ParaKiteGliding
    @ParaKiteGliding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    When the leading edge hits rocky ground...😬 A perfect motivational film for practicing ground handling in an easier place and knowing the limits with your glider. 😅

  • @pfrillele
    @pfrillele 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Many of them should learn how to start in strong wind before they start to fly competition.

  • @mike_tango
    @mike_tango 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If this was a license test, all of them would have failed. But hey, it's a competition so you can launch in sketchy af conditions, get judo'd out and kick people in the face!

    • @thomasriedel2828
      @thomasriedel2828 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great comment. Its a crazy shitshow.

  • @6x6Tortuga
    @6x6Tortuga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Looks like more passengers than pilots...

  • @JohnnyFaber
    @JohnnyFaber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    nice big ears launch at 3:24!

  • @dominiceller1821
    @dominiceller1821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, on the whole a display of ineptitude. Near miss after near miss. Better to be lucky than good huh ;)

    • @niallharvey
      @niallharvey  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To be fair I only made a montage of the good bits 😜

  • @huepix
    @huepix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm amazed no one seems to be using rear riser control?
    In higher winds, hold the As in one hand and the rear risers in the other.
    As the wing comes up, yank the rear riser hard, which breaks up the rear of the wing, depowering it.
    It also allows better control if the pilot remaims under the center of the wing

    • @195638
      @195638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am also surprised that no pilot uses this method. it is called Mitsos from the name of an Australian. I often use it on our windy runways.

    • @christopherdunlap88
      @christopherdunlap88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That was EXACTLY my thought. I see almost zero wing control from many of those pilots.

    • @harryhawk7700
      @harryhawk7700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My thoughts exactly , I fly a 2 liner and always use the rear risers in strong winds to control the wing , if I tried to control it on the brakes it would behaves like an angry crocodile on a piece of string just like the wings in the clip , 2 liners are generally not easy to launch in stronger winds .

    • @sandrainthesky1011
      @sandrainthesky1011 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did notice a couple but yes, in that wind I would want riser control without a doubt. In fact I probably wouldn't let go until in the air haha!

    • @SkidzFPV
      @SkidzFPV ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Once I taught myself the mitsos technique I never went back. It’s a curiosity to me that most paragliding schools don’t teach this as the primary launch technique. But this clip looks to be from a high level comp, like a PWC maybe? With all those pilots flying En-D or ccc wings I’m shocked at how terrible their ground control is, yes it looks like a windy launch, but i pilot at that level should have no problem getting the glider over their head under control. I honestly don’t know what I just watched.

  • @paraglidingmadeira
    @paraglidingmadeira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beim Accuracy comp. 500 Penalty Punkte.... bei der Landung.
    Werbung für den Sport kann man am Startplatz vergessen, heftig chaotisch

  • @sandrainthesky1011
    @sandrainthesky1011 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was surprised there weren't more cobra launches. The one I did notice went off without a hitch! Watching these C & D wings writhe around was pretty epic though!

  • @sza1985
    @sza1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can't believe, top pilots with such lousy take offs. Why no one using A & C technique?

    • @pawelbedynski2308
      @pawelbedynski2308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ehm ... these are two liners buddy ...

    • @sza1985
      @sza1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pawelbedynski2308 yes. That's the name of technique. Off course I mean rear risers instead of C. But the point is why no one is using this technique, is strange..

    • @sandrainthesky1011
      @sandrainthesky1011 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pawelbedynski2308 ha ha ha that was funny!!

  • @markmcgoveran6811
    @markmcgoveran6811 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's hard to see from here but it looks like they could have launched down the hill 50 or 100 ft and had way less trouble. It looks like they're right in the vortex

    • @thomasriedel2828
      @thomasriedel2828 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly what I thought...but maybe it wasn't allowed there...in Germany we have rules for everything

    • @markmcgoveran6811
      @markmcgoveran6811 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasriedel2828 love to you friend I have to learn how to fly myself I've taken lessons I bought a wing epsilon 9 and a harness and the lessons all at once. I don't live where there's very good flying. I never thought about how Germany loves rules so much and they might tell you you have to launch from someplace farther up the hill and then that's what you do. I'm trying to figure out different ways that I can block a road long enough to launch on some of the hills around here. I'm just sitting here laughing thinking about how different it is here

    • @thomasriedel2828
      @thomasriedel2828 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markmcgoveran6811 where do you live? Yes germany and especially the alps are beautiful, but if some spezial bird eats some special mouse, that lives in that special gras downhill, then you are not allowed to start from there 😀

    • @markmcgoveran6811
      @markmcgoveran6811 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasriedel2828 I love you man for caring about me at all. I live in Nebraska north of Omaha and our state has a lot of rivers in these Rivers have ridges that you can probably fly and The ridges aren't very tall. There are some places with some long hills and I have a friend who will let me fly there once I get my insurance ticket. I'm going to fly up in the air every time with a box of cornstarch for cloud seeding and try to get up under clouds and throw it out or get up over 300 ft and throw it out. Then I'm going to tell everybody my friend Jeff that's really rich is Rich because I cloud seed and make all the rain fall on his farm and it just squeezes those clouds dry makes it look like a desert down wind whenever I fly. I'm going to have flashing lights and a horn. I figure after a year or two of this people will invite me to fly from their land and make it rain on their Farm if I can. I'm already well-known person around here for riding motorcycles 100 mi an hour on gravel. When I fly I will have two plans one plan is to fly up in the air and come back and land near my car and drive it home. In every case every plan is I'm going to try to fly from where I launch back to my house. I want to drink coffee and tell big stories about flying through the air and almost dying every time until everybody in town is looking for me hanging from every tree coming out of every cloud landing on every road. That way if it gets dark and I haven't called on the telephone and found my way home they'll be somebody calling the fire department or the sheriff and tell him exactly where they saw me 20 minutes ago. I bought an epsilon 9 and I'm flying heavy on the wing like a gangster and I'm going to fly a trim speed everywhere.if your flight heavy on the biggest epsilon 9 they got you're a gangster and all from a small town you have to act tough when you're landing and launching close to the ground and everybody can see you. The rest of the time it's okay to fly along and cry because you don't know how to do active flying and the company said if you put your hands up it would be okay. I bought the wing in the lessons and everything from the school and I'm still doing the ground handling and it's coming very slow to me at the ground handling. I bought another Wing at a garage sale with a little bitty boardless seat harness. it's a speedway and it's small and I think in light wind it won't be able to pick me up and dump me like that big giant circus tent of an epsilon nine I have to learn with.

    • @markmcgoveran6811
      @markmcgoveran6811 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasriedel2828 your reply is a real Spirit lifter. No matter where I show up the launch I'm going to tell everybody I just landed there and I ran into that haystack because I had to cover my eyes I was so afraid I was praying that God would save me here's $20 to pay for the haystack that I ran into. No matter whatever kind of wild stunt I'm pulling as far as taking off and flying from somewhere I'll always be able to talk myself out the trouble, much much more easily here than I would in Germany. If the first thing I did was claimed I was landing there and tried to pay damages the policeman is pretty likely to let me go and if they do take me in it'd be real hard to get the judge to be too mad at me.

  • @thomasthiede
    @thomasthiede 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Da kann man ja nicht hinschauen bei diesen Chaoten

  • @no0ffseason
    @no0ffseason 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best scene for sure: Someone taking out Oscar, who then proceeds to close the window via his radio 😁

  • @roaeschbacher
    @roaeschbacher ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks a lot for this great shots!!! Still lots to learn about strong wind starts 😎✌🏻

  • @stefanmargraf7878
    @stefanmargraf7878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those things are not meant to be flown from ground...

  • @JaysWorldTravels
    @JaysWorldTravels ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has got to be one of the scariest videos to watch takeoffs.

  • @matiasguerraph
    @matiasguerraph ปีที่แล้ว +1

    falta practicar mas el despegue ! o volar con menos intensidad

  • @skeetzoid
    @skeetzoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    wow, PGs can launch in hang glider wind conditions??! It looks scary insane

    • @TheGrundigg
      @TheGrundigg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      World championships usually fly in really strong conditions.

  • @nachnamevorname5917
    @nachnamevorname5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have heard of this place - must be Kössen, right? 😁

    • @mikecoupe7095
      @mikecoupe7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ager spain

    • @no0ffseason
      @no0ffseason 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Half of the Kössen locals were there, so basically you're right 😁

    • @mikecoupe7095
      @mikecoupe7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@no0ffseason 😂😂

    • @pandrache5509
      @pandrache5509 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha@@no0ffseason

  • @janlencardosa4859
    @janlencardosa4859 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The wind is very strong but the guys make a battle of insanity there

  • @sirwilliamkarl5591
    @sirwilliamkarl5591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    If you can't launch it, don't fly it.

    • @michimussato
      @michimussato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      80% of the people shown in this video don't deserve the term "Pilot"

    • @mikes6216
      @mikes6216 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every time the wind speed doubles, the energy quadruples. Those were some wild conditions with rotor/gusts also. Not everyone can be as good as you in extreme conditions@@michimussato

    • @michimussato
      @michimussato ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikes6216 sarcasm put aside, imagine licensed car drivers with comparable skill sets driving in the city - i would not want to be a pedestrian walking those streets. this is more the ego flying than pilots - @sirwilliamkarl5591 has a point there.

  • @csleclerc57
    @csleclerc57 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now I see why kiting the wing laying on your back can be helpful. Wow

  • @BenBowler
    @BenBowler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😂 good vid. Makes me anxious just watching

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice edit, thanks for sharing it. Thanks you

  • @FlyHighAndDry
    @FlyHighAndDry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You would never get away with inflating on the brakes anywhere in Rockies, where launches aren't all wide-open spaces, where you can get flung around uncontrollably; no trees, no boulders, no consequence; and a gaggle of personnel are there to try to catch you and shove you off the hill, lol! Absolute chaos! No excuse in 2022; time to discover those rear risers!

  • @clubsnapperuk
    @clubsnapperuk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looked like a shit show to me

  • @istrasoft
    @istrasoft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    why only 3 guys are doing a cobra launch with this wind speed ?

    • @galapatours4279
      @galapatours4279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly what i was thinking

    • @JonasPruessing
      @JonasPruessing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I count 6 pilots doing cobra, but they didnt do better than the others. Condition were just to strong, thats why those task got canceled even before it started

    • @JauLingChou
      @JauLingChou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I saw only one successfully pull of cobra, while it seemed for the others their first time doing it. Very face palm imo

    • @sandrainthesky1011
      @sandrainthesky1011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes there was only one real cobra, the others were tractor pulls IMHO

  • @jeremydorminy4510
    @jeremydorminy4510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video! But those wings look super scary for a beginner!😆 🤣

  • @FlyingDarkLord
    @FlyingDarkLord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! 👍🏼 Some edgy flying there though! 😳

    • @ThomasDoubting5
      @ThomasDoubting5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's extremely polite way of putting , there's one took an with an a collapsed wing lol

  • @АлексейМ34
    @АлексейМ34 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Всем компетиторам надо пройти курс наземки основы старта 😂🤪🥳

  • @edivansoares25
    @edivansoares25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    opa! parece as decolagem na temporada Quixadá br

  • @AdrenalineWings
    @AdrenalineWings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what camera are you using here? to created the blur effect

    • @niallharvey
      @niallharvey  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi,
      All done on the iPhone 13 Pro Max in cinematic mode. Mostly done on the fly, maybe 10% post production where I naffed it up 😜

    • @AdrenalineWings
      @AdrenalineWings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niallharvey very cool
      Didnt know the iphone 13 did the blue effect when zoomed in

    • @edelsim3801
      @edelsim3801 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niallharvey top 5 paragliding vids ever. stunning! What is the name of the song? it´s amazing!

  • @marcioalvares6483
    @marcioalvares6483 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Que tal puxar da parte de baixo da rampa,esperar uma caladinha na rajada e principalmente correr pra debaixo da vela.
    Vamos treinar um pouco.

  • @hansenpansen2314
    @hansenpansen2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Video

  • @Birdman953
    @Birdman953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Taking off in an obvious rotor is ridiculous!

  • @thomasnappo6309
    @thomasnappo6309 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have Absolutely NO control in this sport..

  • @NunoFlyer
    @NunoFlyer ปีที่แล้ว

    For some "pilots" time to read more about ground handling and improve your fingers.

  • @manuelsantinmoreno1456
    @manuelsantinmoreno1456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Guy at 1:26 make a realy sexy Start ;)

  • @paraworth
    @paraworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice Job Niall

  • @adventureleopards
    @adventureleopards ปีที่แล้ว

    I subscribed your channel. Love from Karakoram, Pakistan.

  • @fingers1971
    @fingers1971 ปีที่แล้ว

    Classic conditions at Àger take off. I see a lot of pilots that should improve their ground handling skills...

  • @ozone7
    @ozone7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm amazed to see the number of skilled pilots who think the most important thing is to get their legs into the pod just after getting airborne in windy and turbulent conditions, and still being deadly close to the ground...

  • @FLadevie
    @FLadevie ปีที่แล้ว

    Puffins circus !
    Seeing the astronomic salaries of all those guy, it worth the risk.
    Signed : Kylian Mbappé

  • @tartaria936
    @tartaria936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lot of gh noobs

  • @adventureleopards
    @adventureleopards ปีที่แล้ว

    Many sort of Pro guys are also struggling with high wind.

  • @danny-li6io
    @danny-li6io ปีที่แล้ว

    This amount of people and air traffic represents everything paragliding is NOT about.

  • @RapperRoms
    @RapperRoms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amanzing

  • @sandy1989ize
    @sandy1989ize 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:10 cobra launch at its best . ❤️❤️😍🥰

    • @sandrainthesky1011
      @sandrainthesky1011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was my comment, why not more of that? I still consider myself a beginner and can roll cobras from tip to tip all day long. hmm

    • @sandy1989ize
      @sandy1989ize ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandrainthesky1011 keep up the hard work and happy landings

  • @tryfly_
    @tryfly_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing ✌🏻

  • @FlyHighAndDry
    @FlyHighAndDry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get plucked and pray!

  • @icepeakengineer1702
    @icepeakengineer1702 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like some of the harnesses were influenced by legacy V2 rockets design ;)

  • @alleswirdgut238
    @alleswirdgut238 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bitte stell das Lied zur Verfügung🙏

  • @berndkorthaus5082
    @berndkorthaus5082 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a soaring pilot, I feel uncomfortable to see how those wings sometimes can implode anytime during a flight due to turbulence or thermals. A usual plane would not get a permit to be produced and to start with that life threatening behaviour.

    • @SkidzFPV
      @SkidzFPV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of those wings are “ccc” gliders which stands for “competition cross country” there is a rating system of how safe a particular wing is, it goes from En-A, En-B, En-C, and En-D, with A’s being the safest and D’s being least safe (but with more performance) and these ratings are done by load testing, shock load testing, and flight testing, the flight testing involves a pilot collapsing the glider and seeing how it recovers in different configurations, and stalling the glider to see how it recovers, spiraling, spinning it, and a multitude of tests are performed and how it recovers on it’s own without pilot input is how they get the A through B ratings. Now, back to these (most of these gliders anyway) are what I first told you about “ccc” gliders, they are the highest performance gliders made, and are made specifically for the highest level of racing by the highest level of pilots, now they only have load testing and shock load testing, they have no flight testing to see how collapse resistant they are, or if they recover, at the ccc level it is completely up to the pilot to be able to keep the glider open and flying, when they are open and flying they will glide faster and with a better L/D than any other class of glider but they demand a very experienced and talented pilot. By watching this video I would say that even though this was a high wind and rowdy launch site that probably half of those pilots shouldn’t be flying that high class glider. Some people should take a step down if they don’t have the skills or if they aren’t as current as they once where. I’m a fairly new pilot with 2.5 years experience and 80+ hours of which 65 are in strong thermic mid day conditions, I just recovered my first En-B glider (it’s on the higher end of En-B gliders) but still, I’ve flown a high en-A for 2 and 1/2 years and am just now stepping up, wish me luck Lol, but it’s still only a en-B, the second safest class of glider there is, but it does have more performance, a little more speed, a little better glide ratio, a little more dynamic handling. Hopefully I’m ready for it, I will start out flying it in light conditions before going into mid day strong conditions.

  • @omgwtfbbq4792
    @omgwtfbbq4792 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do all these people look like they have no idea what they are doing? rofl

  • @marciomoura994
    @marciomoura994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top demais, lindo lugar👏🏾

  • @johannesreinhard9202
    @johannesreinhard9202 ปีที่แล้ว

    Auch so kann man den Sport in Verruf bringen. Der Wettkampfleitung sollte die Lizens entzogen werden!

  • @Roby-Bees
    @Roby-Bees หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ozone tem

  • @Jdias76
    @Jdias76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Muito duro! 💪💪 👋👋

    • @benigj
      @benigj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice video 👍 thanks

  • @BruceBusby
    @BruceBusby ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite a few ozone gliders compared to gin.

  • @ThomasDoubting5
    @ThomasDoubting5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And there me thinking germans were logical lol

  • @jadelfpv3839
    @jadelfpv3839 ปีที่แล้ว

    Todo un espectáculo si señor 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @davidrocks9611
    @davidrocks9611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool video! what s the soundtrack called?

    • @niallharvey
      @niallharvey  ปีที่แล้ว

      Something I sling together for the video cheers!😝

    • @davidrocks9611
      @davidrocks9611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@niallharvey track id? Please 😁

    • @niallharvey
      @niallharvey  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidrocks9611 it does not exist yet I make it myself for video 😜

    • @davidrocks9611
      @davidrocks9611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@niallharvey love it man! You are talented. Keep it up!

  • @ramses159
    @ramses159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it realy that hard, to launch these type of gliders?

    • @no0ffseason
      @no0ffseason 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In strong winds yes, they lever you out very quickly.

    • @mike_tango
      @mike_tango 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were launching in way too shitty conditions because mah precious competition points

  • @fly_achensee
    @fly_achensee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Many of these pilots don't belong to these gliders...Step back learn control step up...

    • @leovieilledent
      @leovieilledent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i agree, but a fact is that so many people never launch in strong wind when they dont have to, beacause where they usualy fly is calm conditions, where i live we always fly with 20/25 kmh so we're use to it, people from the alps never go out on a day stronger than 15 km/h

    • @fly_achensee
      @fly_achensee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leovieilledent Yeah you're right, but if you compete you have to train yourself into it. Otherwise it's funny wannabes craziness like this day.

    • @riverrose3089
      @riverrose3089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not many pilots have a complete game, might be rubbish on the ground but gangster in a climb

  • @Birdman953
    @Birdman953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m sorry, as an “old” hang glider pilot, the para gliders seem way too difficult to launch in basically perfect ridge soaring conditions. The problem is the rotor forming over the back of the hill. When inflating the canopy near the top of the ridge, it is at a height where the rotor forms hence the canopy collapses and entanglements.

  • @cloudsculptor1
    @cloudsculptor1 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Cobra 🐍 launches ?

  • @michaelasbach4662
    @michaelasbach4662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Der bei 1:27 hat es drauf

  • @dawid5721
    @dawid5721 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ich nich deine freunde 🤢

  • @paralotnik2299
    @paralotnik2299 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤐

  • @BG322
    @BG322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was truly amazing! I PPG, so seeing that many pilots in the air at once is crazy cool and scary.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @gmcenroe
    @gmcenroe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess anyone is allowed to paraglide in Germany, lol.

    • @seppscholz5177
      @seppscholz5177 ปีที่แล้ว

      Der Normaldenkende in Deutschland würde (wenn er die Lizenz hat) bei solchen Bedingungen nicht starten. Und wenn doch, weil er der absolute "Crack" ist und weis wie es geht, dann sehen die Starts nicht so scheiße aus. Mal ehrlich, die hatten mit Ihren Hochleistern alle mehr Glück als Verstand und Können!!! Ich für meine Person lass den Schirm bei solchen Bedingungen eingepackt. Das ist keine Werbung für diesen schönen Sport.

    • @gmcenroe
      @gmcenroe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seppscholz5177 einverstanden

  • @Florian24
    @Florian24 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amateurs

  • @paulus514
    @paulus514 ปีที่แล้ว +1