Tacx NEO Bike Smart: Rider Fitting // Road & TT (Part II)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2019
- Part 2: Rider Fitting to the Tacx NEO Bike Smart.
In this video I'll cover all the details you need to know about rider fitting to the NEO Bike Smart. From minimum and maximum saddle height / reach / drop, and all the details in between. I'll then apply my road and TT bike measurements to the bike to see how close I can get the fit.
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Neo Bike SMART Overview:
Max resistance: 2200 W
Power accuracy: under 1% error
Max. simulated slope: 25%
Mass inertia: 125 kg / 275,6 lbs
Max. torque: 85 Nm
Max. brake force: 250N
Resistance unit: motor
Control: Interactive
Wireless connections: Bluetooth & ANT+
Features: Pedal stroke analysis, Virtual shifting, Gear feel, Road feel, Descent simulation, Dynamic inertia, Isokinetic and Isotonic training mode.
Summary:
- Multiple 'frame sizes'.
- Minimum Saddle Height: 64cm
- Maximum Saddle Height: 94.5cm
- Stock Bar Width: 42.5cm
- Cranks: 170mm-175mmQ-Factor: 147mm
- Customisable Parts: Bars. Saddle. Pedals.
- TT Bar Install: No problems.... but limited by stem/bracket.
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Very helpful ..thank you ..I’ve ordered one in the UK and it arrives Feb ..hopefully.
Needs more GPSheepy 😁😉 Also, solid TT position you got going there. 👌👌👌
Great review. I have long legs and it's good to know whether they will be accommodated. Most manufacturers of indoor bikes do not give you this information and the vendors are not much better.
I am right around 6'3" (190cm) and the tacx bike still has a a good amount to go up from where I have it set.
Tools required for assembly.
Tape measure 👍
Allen keys 👍
Spirit level for the back whilst in TT postion.
If you can get to it, and are able, I would love to see part three. Thanks.
Very helpful video. Thank you so much. Can you please verify the size of the allen wrench you used to loosen the 4 stem allen bolts to adjust steering bar angle? My bolts were so incredibly tight, I wound up rounding out two of the bolts. I might have one more shot at them before they are completely rounded out but I want to make sure that I use the correct wrench. Any ideas if I am unable to get these 2 allen bolts off? Thank you very much.
We need, no we demand, part III now :) Or even better a short comparison between Neo. Kicker, SB20 and Atom.
Maybe part III.... maybe. :)
@@gplama Still no part III :-) The bike was that rubbish during initial testing?
@@mareklesniak8768 Yeah, it has been shelved. I was told there'd be updates to address the leg rub, shitty levers, and possibly the crank arms. Apparently the crank is now the 'bear claw' style. Everything else remains the same.
Shane Miller - GPLama Hey Shane, do you think we’ll see you final video soon? I know you’ve got little Max to look after now.
I’ve got this Neo Bike on pre-order in the UAE but would love to see/hear your final verdict vs. the Wahoo offering before I pull the trigger.
Sounds like you got a little bit of a cold there mate (probably those dodgy brits ;) ). Hope your resting appropriately. Looks like a good device, those "quick release" options seems to be clipping the frames in a few areas which is disappointing.
Anyone can tell me if it's possible to remove head unit display? I want to install a curved monitor in a lower inclined position, but i think the head unit will obstruct the visibility..
😊👍
Hi!
Minimum Saddle Height: 64cm... From saddle to BB or from saddle to the floor?
Thanks!
Please, what aero bars do you use?
Thank you very much
So far it looks like the Wahoo bike has a better execution than the neo bike and no climb tilt on this one so less features. Not a fan of the way the crank length is set - looks to be a bit fiddlily. Look forward to the ride video for the final verdict.
What the minimum rider height for this bike with 64cm saddle height?? ..
I kind of missed seeing you on the bike with that maxed out position, with your feet dangling and your arms waay forward. :)
Hahah! This is why I need a paywall... for all the embarrassing content! :)
dont understand why Tacx does not use a normal Seatpost w/ clamp - u can Change different saddles very quick (if another Person wants to ride with his/her own saddle)
Good video Shane. Did the inside of your leg rub against the frame.
Will cover this in my ride experience video as I did with the Kickr bike.
Hi Shane, hope you are well, when do you anticipate your review for the tacx neo bike smart will online?I've watched the unboxing and setup, thanks
Soon..... I still need to cover the configuration of gearing and the overall ride experience.
@@gplama great stuff, can't wait, thank you for the great content, love your podcast
Hi Shane. How do you change the crank length? I.e. how do you remove the cups from the cranks? Thanks
With great difficulty. Rubber mallet maybe?
How hard is it to change bars if you normally ride 36 or 38 cm wide bars?
Not hard. I guess it’d take 15-20 mins.
I have bought a TACX SMART BIKE not arrived yet, which pedals do you suggest? I’m not a racer more a cruiser. Thanks in advance😎🇨🇦
Whatever pedals you like. Flat pedals for really easy riding. Clip-ins for a much better experience.
I got the Tacx Neo Bike now for 15 Days and i'm really happy about it except 2 points. Since 3 Days i had some bluetooth connection problems with the surface book. Restart the Notebook restart the bike for a couple of times. Do you have the same experience? I see in the video you also don't have the marks for the measurment on the handlebars. Do you know the reason?
One for Tacx Support, or Zwift support if it's Bluetooth with their software.
Hi Shane did you do the part 3 ride review video of the Tacx smart bike? I am thinking of buying one over the Wattbike Atom 2nd generation. Tacx/Garmin have updated the cranks to three separate crank positions similar to the kickr bike to set crank lengths. I currently use a direct drive Kicker V5. Will the Tacx smart bike be positive move?
No, I didn't. There was a lot updates slated that never arrived. The ATOM has never been a good experience when tested with my protocol. I'd stick with the Kickr 5 at this point.
@@gplama thank you for the advice. Great channel always helpful.
Hi Shane, love your videos! Question, if you want to switch between 2 riders 3 times a week, is that reasonable doable with the Tacx?
Depends. If you need to change crank length (pedal position), then no. Everything else yes.
@@gplama thanks a lot! That will work for us!
Shane, I have my neo bike! It's awesome except for one thing: I had a wahoo till now and a workout was straight blocks of effort. With the neo it seems it aims for the wattage, but it is sort of a bandwidth around it and I mostly (most positive sense) do it myself. I had something similar once in the past with my wahoo, but could fix that with a setting. Do I have to do something similar now? Where to find it? I have the latest firmware btw, 0.0.40. Hope to hear from you!
Shane, never mind, I found out the difference between the Tacx and wahoo, it's the power smoothing setting. I actually like both now ;). This tacx Neo bike responds really much quicker than my Kickr Snap 👍
I hope you will be able to add the ride test - part III in the near future. Would be curious to see how much difference you experience compared to the Wahoo.
Hi, is there a “ride feel” video for this bike like you did for the wahoo Kickr bike? Thanks
Not yet.
Looking forward to it, have loved the Videos, they’ve been great in getting a newbie up to speed. Many thanks.
anyone know if the seats are changeable? Like if I bought a new seat for it?
Yes
Any update on when part III is coming?
Soon.... maybe a few weeks.
Hi, the arm attachments, where did you buy them or how can I refer to them to fit the bike?
They were generic clip-on TT bars.
Wahoo looks more handsome
handlebar size customizable to a 36 cm?
Sure
Hi, when wll rest of review of tacx neo bike be published? Looks like the Wahoo Kickr bike got 5 videos, however Tacx Neo bike only at 2 videos at the moment:( Is there a reason for this? Or perhaps there will not be more videos/reviews for the Tacx Neo Bike?
Waiting in Tacx for a few things. It's been a while.... yes.
Any update on further reviews please
What happened to Part III of this series on the Neobike? I can’t seem to find it on your channel or anywhere for that matter.
Yet to get to it. I've been waiting on the promised update to the seat collar and redesign of the levers.
@@gplama ah that’s a pretty good reason! Thanks Shane!
Can this bike be direct connected to the network?
No.
Is it better than the wahoo kickr bike?
No
So it looks like I feared when I raised it with Tacx last year, even in a modest TT position your hands totally obscure the display. I can imagine someone with a more forward position and/or longer forearms will end up with their hands mashing into the display.
I get the impression Tacx thought very little of TT/triathletes when designing that entire front end 🤔😕
chill it works fine
Hi Shane, will there be a Part III final review for the bike?
Eventuality, yes.
Is it ready ☺️
Shane, Did I seriously hear the Neo grind noise at 9:42??? 4 years later they are still shipping Neo technology with grinding 🙄
Yep... it rides out and stopped after a few minutes of spinning. Thankfully.
@@gplama I had the same problem. Freaked me out because it sounded like the percussion section of a band and the thought of boxing it up to ship back filled me with dread. Somewhere between 30-60 minutes in an hour long ride (with headphones on) it disappeared (so far) never the return. I assume it's metal filings on the magnets brushing the flywheel and since rubbed off. Irritating, but not the showstopper it sounds like initially.
Tacx should pay GPlama more so he talks them up like he does for Wahoo. I’m seriously thinking of getting the Wahoo over the Tacx.
It’s more a case of my experience with a product that determines my ‘talk up’. Make an excellent product and give us an excellent experience. That’s all I’m after.
Shane Miller - GPLama I appreciate the honesty in your videos, one of the main reasons I’m a supporter. Thanks for sharing these videos it’s the only thing I can find that actually teaches you how the smart bikes work and how to effectively train with them.
I thought this was the vacuuming channel 😕
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i have weird shape, 410mm from tip of saddle to bar centre, 852mm saddle height and 770mm drop from bars to bottom bracket, will this fit? many thanks
Best check the sizing in person at a bike store if you can.
Part III ??
Didn’t happen. Tacx never followed up with the updated components I was waiting for.
64cm isnt that low. Reckon few smaller woman be struggling with that
Yeah it would be a close call for me (152 cm)
why can't someone produce the indoor bike part of this only. This would allow you to use any smart trainer. Currently you are stuck with the smart trainer that comes built in. Sort of like buying a TV with a VCR player built in.
Michael Steele They do! It’s called a bike frame and a trainer..
You just described... a bike.
haha.. not exactly, I like the adjustability options without having to swap out parts, also no need for a front wheel or fork. yeah yeah , you could purchase a chinese bike off of Aliexpress for indoor training. As for me, I have the Neo 2 and I use my second bike on it. But why can't someone create a bike specific for this purpose?
Michael Steele that’s a pretty interesting idea actually. However if the adjustable bike was separate then it would still require a chain, derailleurs, shifters, etc if you just wanted to be able to connect it to a regular direct drive trainer. These bikes have virtual shifting that I think is pretty cool because your gears become customizable just like the bike fit. However, if the bike part was just single speed and there was a protocol for virtual shifters to talk to the trainer then this could still be solved.
@@michaelsteele5495 You mean frame with cheap groupset and quick release based, widely adjustable contact points? One cycling gym in Poland actually did it. They designed and ordered such frames equipped with Tiagra and put them on Drivo trainers. Unfortunately it's not for sale but there was some interest in the project among local indoor enthusiasts ;)
What ever happened to the rest of the review on the Tacx Neo Smart bike. It looked so promising but so far failed to deliver a final verdict.
Have you totally given up on finishing this review or would it be more of a case that Tacx are in the process of totally redesigning the whole bike to accommodate new features that other brands have adapted. For exapmle, the Wahoo Smart bike is a more sleeker design and an easier way to set up the whole bike from scratch.
From reading and watching other reviews, it seems that the concept was a great idea but somewhat misses the mark to be one of the best indoor bikes on the market due to it's design limitations. I would love to hear your view from a more rounded prospective.
I was waiting on a few updates. An updated firmware dropped last week. No updates in regard to the hardware though. I'll loop back to this soon.
クランク最小170mmか・・・
Where is Part III FFS ?
FFS?
@@gplama For Fuck's Sake ? :o) More seriously, do you have some troubles with the Neo Bike explaining why the test is taking so long to get online?
@@bradowner3930 In short.... pretty much yes. I have a few issues I'm discussing with Tacx. I can confirm power accuracy isn't one, it's spot on accurate for power. They've nailed that part.
@@gplama shifting must be one of the issues
Any further news? Curious only because I already own and have used one since November 2019. No problems so far really, but both shifting and ERG mode (at least in Zwift) are much improved since the latest firmware update.
I come across this short clip on TH-cam and noticed that the cranks are now a hammerhead design on the Tacx Smart Bike. th-cam.com/video/mNtNPFM9_-M/w-d-xo.html
Could this be an updated version we could be getting in the near future. Let me know your thoughts.
@@RelaxingWalks
Point noted. Thanks