The Weird History of Screw Propelled Land Vehicles: Slant Sixes, Big Blocks, and all!

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  • The world is filled with vehicles that run on wheels and tracks but what about those oddballs motivated by screws? This is a history of screw propelled land vehicles and it's a wild journey through more than 2,000 years of history. From the invention of the Archimedes screw to the development of ship propellors to the idea that the same principles could be applied on land, there a great collection of odd and interesting vehicles to learn about.
    Amazingly, the Chrysler Corporation was responsible for the two most well known modern screw propelled vehicles, the small the interesting Marsh Swamp Amphibian and the much larger Riverine Utility Craft. Both were built in the 1960s. Both were built for the military.
    This is a story about innovation, success, failure, and the interesting lessons learned along the way. Gearhead history!
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  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    I appreciate even the non race topics just as much. You always present a good topic.

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Thanks for giving the weird stuff a shot!

    • @jaythorne5208
      @jaythorne5208 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I concuŕr

    • @francislutz8027
      @francislutz8027 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Obscure, not weird
      Keep em coming

  • @brunonikodemski2420
    @brunonikodemski2420 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am one of the designers of the actual Lunar Roving Vehicles. My supervisor and I did the design for the "mobility subsystem" electric drive, 4-wheel, with dual Ackermann steering. During the early development of the LRVs, there were screw drives considered, since the Lunar dust was considered to have the consistency of fluffy talc, and later this was shown to be true on the Moon in certain spots. One vehicle got bogged down, and the astronauts sank up to their ankles to get it out. I have a couple of videos of the screw-drives which were tested at our GM/DRL laboratories, before the actual design parameters were established. NASA and US-Army did radar studies of the moon, and found that the dirt was usually much more solid. A facsimile of the Moon dirt was delivered to us, and used in carousel testing of the wheels, to determine the traction and wearout features. The wheels were redesigned several times, based on this testing, including dodging of large boulders. The carousel test videos are also available, including the simulation of 1/6-Gravity, here on Earth...

  • @Foxcanfixit
    @Foxcanfixit 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I wonder what thread pitch those screws are. coarse thread screws for racing, fine thread for crawling.

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Hahahah

    • @LeapingBlackman
      @LeapingBlackman 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How far can you go is my question. Lower the pitch and crank the torque up

    • @alanquintus2069
      @alanquintus2069 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What if its NPT?

    • @Foxcanfixit
      @Foxcanfixit 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@alanquintus2069 good question! I guess that’s the plumbers and pipe fitters version?

    • @MakeStationWagonsGreatAgain
      @MakeStationWagonsGreatAgain 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Acme thread?

  • @ATomRileyA
    @ATomRileyA 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    That Snow Motor was awesome, makes me want one now.

  • @Benlucky13
    @Benlucky13 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I never realized just how fast those things were in the right conditions, 30mph through muck is impressive

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not gonna lie, kinda want to figure out just how fast you could make one and maybe set some speed records...
      You could have land speed records on anything that isn't too hard of a surface
      You could have water speed records
      ...what could go wrong???

  • @wojciechbieniek4029
    @wojciechbieniek4029 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    at 12:02, you mention Geoffrey Pike, and this wasn't his only wild idea:
    He also figured out a process of freezing sawdust and water into material called Pykrete, and pitched an idea of building an aircraft carrier out of it. The project went underway, as far as making a model in Canada, which actually survived a couple of winters, but it never went beyond that.

  • @Skorpychan
    @Skorpychan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Colin Furze made one that worked pretty well, and documented the whole process.

  • @chazmister56
    @chazmister56 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    What a surprise, never expected you to cover screw vehicles. Good stuff Brian

  • @nickthompson9697
    @nickthompson9697 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Suspension would have fixed it. Maybe a quad pod arrangement, keep the 440s for reliability.

  • @tomm1206
    @tomm1206 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Keep up with the vastness of mechanical diversity Brian, it’s very much appreciated! Great work!

  • @vr6swp
    @vr6swp 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Had there been a lighter weight version of the Hemi (like the aluminum blocks Keith Black started making in the late 70’) plus some kind of rudimentary suspension like others have suggested, things might have been different. Seems like the engineers would have come up with some kind of hard rubber or composite screws to make it more operable on hard ground

  • @600wheel
    @600wheel 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I noticed a video on TH-cam a while ago about a guy who found an aluminum slant six engine in a car. I don’t know maybe they made a bunch of them but maybe a came from one of these screw vehicles

  • @davebaker9128
    @davebaker9128 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I saw the one in Valdez Alaska about 17 years ago, it was behind the museum, rusting away

  • @Commander-McBragg
    @Commander-McBragg 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looks like a great mud bogging dragster to me! Turbine power might do the trick.

  • @sharkinstx
    @sharkinstx 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’ve seen pictures of some of these, but never heard the history.

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Glad it was something you enjoyed!

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That thing is great! Thank You for showing this.

  • @BIBSTERSrepairshop
    @BIBSTERSrepairshop 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Yessssss new video great way to spend a Monday thanks for all the videos

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thanks for checking it out!!

  • @vehdynam
    @vehdynam 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have no idea where, or how , you research this stuff , but it sure is fascinating. Many , many thanks.

  • @covenantor663
    @covenantor663 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Saw a purpose built version - looked fairly modern - that was used for creating drainage channels.
    The weight of the machine sunk the screw pontoons into the soil creating twin ditches.
    From memory it was a fairly large machine, reminiscent of some of RG Le Tournoux’s machines.

  • @mcraceworks
    @mcraceworks 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great story. Love those bits of history

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One of the very few times i knew the vehicle and concept featured in one your video. Interesting the same. Always quality 👍👍👌👌

  • @wi.dave3812
    @wi.dave3812 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I, like you, appreciate all sorts of vehicles, very educational video, thank you. See you on the next one 😀🇺🇸

  • @jonvanwilgen3103
    @jonvanwilgen3103 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Don't know were you find these stories,but keep up the good work. Love all these different stories!!!!

  • @noverguy
    @noverguy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Super cool topic Brian. Where else are we going to find this kind of content! Thanks for all your research! Keep up the great work!

  • @acetomatocompany
    @acetomatocompany 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember back in the Eighties there was a remote controlled toy like this.

  • @The55nomad
    @The55nomad 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brian, i asked you delivered. Thank you.

  • @roberthevern6169
    @roberthevern6169 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Is it the 'incline plane' concept? As used on bolts, nuts, screws, lag bolts etc, etc!
    Wow! When your mind wanders, it finds some outrageously cool stuff!
    Thanks for sharing!

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Archimedes was smart! And yes…I am weird! Haha

    • @roberthevern6169
      @roberthevern6169 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All those nitro fumes? Haha

  • @johnburch6927
    @johnburch6927 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome topic and footage.

  • @mikecurtis2585
    @mikecurtis2585 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Those are definitely some unique vehicles! I've seen some of the tractors on RFD TV! Always interesting stories! Thanks 👍

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Appreciate you checking it out!

  • @S_M_360
    @S_M_360 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Starting to love this channel. Great, fresh stories!

  • @joelratchford2235
    @joelratchford2235 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fountainhead antique automobile museum in Fairbanks Alaska has a fully operational snow motor. Their TH-cam page has videos of it running. I’ve seen it pull a sleigh in person. It’s pretty amazing

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love your history lessons Brian

  • @jeffmckc2081
    @jeffmckc2081 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like something Bigun would have for the river.

  • @mikepaul3959
    @mikepaul3959 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thanks Brian. Another super entertaining video/podcast.

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Appreciate you checking it out!!

  • @markholroyde9412
    @markholroyde9412 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Im in the UK. How cool would an all aluminium /6 be, wow. I have a build kit laying here for one, Crower rods, forged pistons, AUS roller rocker kit and a solid Crower cam kit and stainless valves....I wish, wonder if any exist?...get on it Brian 🤣 Ive also owned a '68 Roadrunner 41 years👍

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They are exceptionally rare but do appear from time to time for sale. They do exist here.

  • @tomcampbell4414
    @tomcampbell4414 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Great show!

  • @Foxcanfixit
    @Foxcanfixit 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I want a screw drive vehicle so bad. Just a small one the size of a 12-14 foot boat. I’ve got an Iron Duke sitting around to power it, I just need everything else

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The story of my life too! Haha

  • @obbyjep7597
    @obbyjep7597 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very interesting, iv heard about the old Ford ones but not the others, thanks for all your work into this

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Glad it was worthwhile of your time!!!

  • @davidsawyer1599
    @davidsawyer1599 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I read somewhere long ago. Hemi vs.Wedge. Essentially very little difference in performance in stock form.

  • @billguernsey6419
    @billguernsey6419 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Fairbanks auto museum has the fordson version. They stated that the drums were filled with aircraft fuel for use at the airport.

  • @wesw9586
    @wesw9586 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Yes! This is gonna be good

  • @rayleehylton8427
    @rayleehylton8427 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, thanks Brian !!

  • @thedon-e6514
    @thedon-e6514 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seems this drive has a lot of crossover with Hovercrafts.
    Can operate over different difficult terrain, but both have limitations.
    Would love a vid on Hovercrafts from your perspective 👍
    And this makes me wonder why there was so much effort on the super slow snow crawlers that were developed, something with a screw drive would have smashed that brief!

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wonder if the leading edge of the helix had a strip of rubber if it would have worked better on firm surfaces. Plus giving the body and or seats a suspension system for better ride.

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think it sure would have been better than nothing

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gud vid 💯💥👍, cheers from the UK 😊

  • @derrickboatman1560
    @derrickboatman1560 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was a really good video, thanks Brian from a new subscriber

  • @the4x4pig
    @the4x4pig 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    More awesome content. Thank you.

  • @lycancatt4248
    @lycancatt4248 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    neat stuff! love learning about things i'd kind of known of but in greater detail

  • @raykaufman7156
    @raykaufman7156 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The RUC would have been perfect with the Hemis and a pair of...ahem...SCREW BLOWERS. 😂😂😂

  • @tonybrown7563
    @tonybrown7563 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Showing one of the best parts of ubiquitous automobiles...at least when they get stuck in the snow, you're only hitting a bunch of metal. That poor horse!

  • @onehourgarage
    @onehourgarage 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I did a deep dive on these a few years ago and if I ever an endless supply of money it is on the list of stupid shit I want build.

  • @Sincitytowingandtransport
    @Sincitytowingandtransport 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just out of curiosity how do we go from the terrifying toranado to screw drive stuff? Don’t get me wrong I really enjoy everything you cover and learning about this stuff . Talk about diversity 😂

  • @oldsman496
    @oldsman496 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    awsum as always!

  • @brucewilkey3535
    @brucewilkey3535 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Speaking of the Archimedean screw and its working to move fluid. Picture an Archimedean screw the size of a large ballpoint pen. At each end rubies act as bearings and have a estimated life of 1200 years. Now imagine this PUMP inserted in your CHEST after your damaged/diseased heart has been removed. Your blood pressure is just one number because there is no "heartbeat" which of course gives you two numbers a systolic and diastolic number. The biggest drawback seemingly is the fact that you have to wear a battery in a backpack at all times. It is my understanding that it may be installed as a backup to your existing heart if you are having problems with your natural heart. It is also my understanding that Dick Cheney has one. Just thought I would throw in my two cents worth awesome video seems like it would make a wonderful toy for folks who live in a snowy climate. Okay that's all I got peace.

  • @BradleyBellwether-oy2qi
    @BradleyBellwether-oy2qi 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My grandpa and dad retired from a GM factory that went from being a Fisher Body, to a bunch of other GM shops and eventually to a metal fabrication center (was also a tank plant during ww2 and Korea) and the truck they used to move the giant dies around the shop was a 1979 Chevy Luv with a *_Chrysler slant 6,_* because it had so much more torque than the Chevy straight 6. 😂

  • @ldnwholesale8552
    @ldnwholesale8552 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I knew of these, read a book with a chapter on the earlier ones. There is also a story on again the earlier ones on You Tube somewhere.
    This is the best story on these things. Personally the smaller one with the slopey would be the most suitable. Exhaust could be overcome,,, move it out the back. Use would be limited BUT in Vietnam and similar places it would have a place. The big one is simply too big. Possibly fun,, just needs nitro and zoomies!
    As for off topic from Brian,, he does own and old 8N Ford Tractor!!

  • @mgbchuck6527
    @mgbchuck6527 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WEIRD! (I like weird V8 stuff), thanks Brian

  • @jubu3136
    @jubu3136 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice vid

  • @allareasindex7984
    @allareasindex7984 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There was a screwdrive kit made for old Fords. Like Model T and A.

  • @9rjharper
    @9rjharper 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    TWO 440s? I’m in.

    • @9rjharper
      @9rjharper 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AND Archimedes? Done.

  • @samuelskinner8132
    @samuelskinner8132 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Somewhat along the same lines is the lovable Ukrainian Sherp atv

  • @bullhead360
    @bullhead360 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video and it got my wheels turning…. Why was the 426 so much better than the 440?

  • @scottmalpass4802
    @scottmalpass4802 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    smart, but he may have had a screw loose...

  • @user-tq3mo1pc4t
    @user-tq3mo1pc4t 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I Used a machine like this in south Korea around 1995. It was made in Holland

  • @alexander1485
    @alexander1485 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    naw, the weirdest powered big block "vehicle" was the Chrysler Air Raid sirens that actually used a 426 Hemi.... ones in the Don Garlit's National Museum of Drag Racing.

    • @TheMNrailfan227
      @TheMNrailfan227 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m pretty sure those were powered by a 318 or some other small hemi but yeah, a very neat piece of Chrysler and American history

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The original weasel was designed and made by studebaker

  • @williamwagaman9538
    @williamwagaman9538 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    W I f. Wow holy crap

    • @brianlohnes3079
      @brianlohnes3079  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Haha! I hope that’s a good “holy crap”!

  • @none-js4kr
    @none-js4kr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We need a non racing video once a month at least

  • @billsmart2532
    @billsmart2532 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember back in the day… watching a video demonstration on TV news. Have been wondering if Ukraine could use some, but you've shown me it's limit.

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Snake Eater😮

  • @malakiblunt
    @malakiblunt 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    'two hemis of the high performance variety" surely that means blowen and nitro burning ?

  • @WAYUPDUDE1382
    @WAYUPDUDE1382 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Far out man! ☮☮

  • @roberthepburn-gr4fq
    @roberthepburn-gr4fq 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They had one of those in Parris Island MCRD back in 72 when I was there it was used to go out and retrieve the bodies of the recruites who tried to go UA and get stuck in the muck and they would drown when the tide came in and drowned them nobody ever made it across the swamp
    There is only 3 ways to get off Parris Island MCRD and that's
    Dead
    Discharged
    Graduated

  • @Sensecommon557
    @Sensecommon557 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Assuming they didnt make many, would like to find one of those aluminium 225 engines and dump it in a hemi cuda.

  • @jasonbirch1182
    @jasonbirch1182 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is some screwey shit right there.

  • @600wheel
    @600wheel 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🤘😎🤘

  • @yrusonoz5574
    @yrusonoz5574 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shagohod🤔

  • @SHDW-nf2ki
    @SHDW-nf2ki 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    US army: We need a screw propelled machine for crossing marshes and bogs
    Screw propelled machine: Exceeds at crossing marshes and bogs
    US army: Sick? Now how does it do around Daytona?
    Seriously what is with the US Army post WW2? Between this thing and the FAL its like they just have no idea what they're asking for when they want equipment

  • @reggielavoie5048
    @reggielavoie5048 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fall off and your screwed.

  • @marcimarcimarci5101
    @marcimarcimarci5101 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think we would have got the point without having to watch a horse be abused. just sayin

  • @KAS6558
    @KAS6558 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow...too bad its flaws could not be overcome. Awesome device though.