Destroying the magic was by far the stupidest decision in the world. What makes the decision even worse is that there are so many people who ended up dying when the magic got destroyed
@@bluejay8453 According to what? What if families or relationships had come from different worlds like Marco and Star that didn't have there worlds merge, those families and couples will now be split up forever from being from different home dimensions.
Imagine if instead of Moon and Eclipsa joining star in destroying magic, the ghost of Solaria sits next to star and they have a talk about how the world has changed and solaria gives star the means to undo all the solarian warriors
@@sarahtelles1931She changed close to the end, the show didn't show it, but close to the end the crusaders had a revelation and changed which is why Lolliberry revolted from the new change and why Eclipsa had the mindset to fall for a monster.
TWO episodes about the wandering creatures, actually. Makes it worse because they (tried at least) to go out of their way to characterise literal magic.
@Lydia-l7m Not to mention, even to the extent where two of them had a BABY. A _BABY._ That would mean that Star has canonically killed at _least_ one baby. 😬
there are thousands of fan kids on the internet, they could've even have a contest to submit one of those kids to appear in the show for the finale, the ultimate thank you move.
Magic wasn't the real problem, it's the monarchy. After all, the Mewni journal did admit that there were some lousy/chaotic/corrupted rulers that used the wand. Instead of destroying magic entirely, set all of the spell created creatures free & just destroy the wand or just seal the magic, that way no one dies nor will in cause more harm than good.
Indeed. You should never allow your characters to be able to destroy a fundamental piece of the world. It would be like destroying gravity. For some reason though writers see magic as an unnatural part of reality. They see it as different and thus primed for destruction. Too many stories end by destroying the thing that made the story possible. That isn't good. Its worse than the main character dying. Because it makes the world left behind worthless.
Destroying the magic didn't fix anything. Mina litterly said in the finale that she is truly never gone if they kill her since there are gonna be others in the future who will cause conflict and start war eventually which she is right because history always repeats itself somehow. Technically speaking, destroying the magic is the worst decision because it means it's gonna be harder for the Mewmans/Humans to defend themselves against monsters since species such as septarians like Toffee, and Rasticore who are almost invincible due to them being able to regenerate. Also, mixing two universe together is stupid, like I feel like there will be a war already happening since it's a democracy and a monarch mixed, which is a problem, lol
Nah. Humans will easily defeat everyone. Their technology faaar outclasses them. What they going to do against a tank, or a heli, or a nuke? Bows, and swords? Their regeneration will only make it worse for them once they face some flamethrowers. No i think monsters would learn to adapt. They never used magic, and their physical capabilities are useful. Humans would find them valuable as workers, and soldiers to be integrated. Mewmans would suffer the most. They are nothing special now, and they are primitive, and poor. Their value is same as any human beggar. I would also add, that we aren't sure if these abilities are not connected to magic. And if it is, then they will lose it.
@@akuladoctor7355 Eh I think you are underestimating the ones that regenerate, (other then that one that was seemingly just a gag), we saw some that reformed quicker then you could bombard them, if it turns into a war of attrition... well the unkillable monsters are going to win eventually unless you can find a way to contain them scp style.
@@Parasolhyena Humans will just tear them into pieces, then while they are busy regenerating put them into chains, then throw them into an ocean. Or just contain them. Or design a poison, or virus. The problem is, that humans have technology that makes them immune to everything the monsters have. What are they going to do with a damn tank? Or a fighter jet? Also when Meteora destroyed Rasticore it was just a strong grenade. Humans have rockets with similar power. I also think, that flamethrower would deal with them. Even, if they can out-regenerate it they will have so much pain, that they cannot move.
7:40 YES, THOUSAND TIMES YES. 15:26 Toffee is a puppet of Glossaryck, Glossaryck set up Toffee on his war path to destroy magic on the first place. Glossaryck brought Meteora to scare Toffee into anti magic rhetoric and when Star disrupted that Glossaryck began pushing Star to destroy magic. 31:42 honestly I feel that Owl House is result of Dana Terrace watching all of Star vs, talking notes and makes a better show just to show Daron Nefcy how to right a proper fantasy story.
Exactly magic is a tool it's up to you how you use it the main reason why meteora got corrupted as an adult due to having bad mental health and abuse Magic is not the main cause of problem it's you how you use it thus toffee is just a puppet for glossarycky and how much magic you use the reason why eclipsa mother considered a dictator because she made the spell with no spell is dangerous
I said the same thing and no one talked about it until now. If Toffee knew the truth, he would have back down and not go through with the plan. He would have been furious that he was being used.
glossaryck is the true villain of the series. He could have easily sent the first mewmans back to earth but instead he gave them magic and let things progress.
Honestly, Star gets a lot of Hate when she is just another Puppet for Glossaryck. Everyone ignores him and blames Star, yet they do not blame the one behind everything. Star was thrust into an impossible situation with much pressure on her. The Adults who should have helped were also not much Help and more of a Burden on Star (Caused the problem). The Ones who could have stopped her, given her maybe another way, just went with a Plan a child came up with ( a plan Glossaryck pushed on her and made her think it was her own). They did not question her, did not think a bit further, yet again Star is the one to blame when she had many different Adults by her side, who were also more than okay with destroying magic! Glossaryck created all the Events, Gave Humans Magic, pushed Humans into invading the Monster territory, Increased and spurred the Hate of Monsters towards Magic and Humans, and in turn made Humans hate Monsters more. He guided the Queens, hid important information, and tricked multiple queens who trusted him (Like when he acted insane), All to destroy magic, because Glosseryck wanted to die. All because he had enough of life, he was more than ready enough to create a genocide and make a little Girl do the dirty work while acting like a Hero who sacrifices himself at the end ("A Captian always goes down with his Ship") funny quote for a Captian who made others drill holes into the said ship, so it would sink.
I love how they just gloss over the many, MANY problems and disasters that will inevitably occur from Mewni and Earth forcibly merging. You think that the monster/Mewman racism is bad? Just wait until human racism gets thrown in the mix. And humans have nukes. Without magic, monsters and mewmans have nothing.
I haven't read the printed spellbook to know exactly what spells are mentioned, but the fact that you can make your own spells means she could have summoned queen Solaria to talk to Mina or create a reversal spell or just transport them to another realm. Or even have them get lost in time or loose their memory in the realm of magic. SO MANY OPTIONS albeit varying degrees of effectiveness but all better than the "destroy the power souce for all magic beings" idea. You could even tie this in with characters like Moon and Eclipsa with having 3 magic users create an ultimate spell would be amazing.
Toffee only wanted magic destroyed because it was the only thing that could stop him. Without it there is nothing stopping another Lizardman warlord from raising up.
This ending ruined the show for me. I can’t not even rewatch the show because of it. Other then the magical genocide. There is also the fact that the world now has human and technology from our world. Meaning that monsters will still be persecuted because we know humans will use guns and stuff after the monsters. And the racist mewman would unite with the humans. Edit: I do want a spin off following Mariposa and Meteora and their goal being about bringing magic back. Would be so good.
@@BARALover96 alternatively, the writers could’ve doubled down on Jackie Lynn Thomas being gay, causing Disney to end the show early, forcing the writers to write a new ending around toffee and ludo, and it would’ve probably been better what we got.
I completely understand you. Although for me I can’t say it ruined the show for me, I still love the first few Seasons. The last one was fine by me until…… That atrocious finale. Just horrible.
Marco: What happened to your hearts? Star: There are no more hearts, there is no magic or kingdom, now I am a normal girl like Janna. Now I'll have to learn how to live without magic...I won't last even 1 week.
I honestly would've preferred that Star decided to end the reign of Queens instead of destroying magic. They could instead turn Mewni into a democracy similar to Moon and River's new home. Mewmans wouldn't have someone to solve all their problems and be forced to learn things on their own, the MHC wouldn't have anyone to manipulate from childhood into becoming monster racists, and the monsters wouldn't have a power source to steal in the form of a wand.
I would have also went with them safely freezing time, gathering mina's army and the commission. Trap them in the neverzone with pro monster merch on the commission. Heckapoo close off dimensional travel to and from there. Mina's broken mind would cause her to destroy the commission AND they would be trapped in the Neverzone forever. While corrupt magic would be real issue, Star and Marco fight Tom. Tom gets cured but Marco gets corrupted via impalement, his monster arm returns but he becomes one with it. *Think Monster Human hybrid*, Star kisses him which purifies him but he stays a monster hybrid but is fully in control of everything, then they fight Glossaryck who showed up and got corrupted. Absorbed all the corruption too gain all the power of it, and unlike the other corrupted beings he'd be able to talk. Fights star and marco in a final fight with his full power in his true form, they blast him with the wand AND in their own butterfly forms, marco's being a bit more monster like. Star becomes the new guardian, etc.
*glances at the history of US expansion across North America, Israel's ongoing actions in Gaza, the French Republic's colonialism, etc.* Why exactly would being a democracy do anything to solve the problems of racism and genocide?
I've seen many other shows talk about the destruction of magic and while much of them came from the same reasoning Star did (to a degree,) the other protagonists realized how stupid the idea actually was. Here are several reasons why this is so. 1. Many creatures (in Star's universe, at least) are born from magic itself including but not limited to the Warnicorns, fairies and of course, Spider with a Top Hat. By destroying magic, Star had essentially committed a mass genocide that rivals both the Exterminations from Hazbin AND the universal destruction caused by the Diamond Authority on Steven Universe. 2. Several people traveled to other worlds before Star's choice was made, such as when that one squire decided staying in the Never-Zone was better than her own world. By destroying magic, Star trapped these poor schmucks in those worlds for all eternity; far from their families and loved ones. 3. In other universes where protags considered destroying magic; they ultimately realized, in the end, that their actions wouldn't make THEM any better than their villains. In short, not only did Star make a VERY stupid decision but to this day, many people consider this finale as bad as Season 8 of Game of Thrones. Furthermore, someone should've taught Star that it's not the WEAPON that's good or evil but the individual USING IT! Why is this such a hard lesson for people to remember?! Even in the real world, people wish guns never existed...when in reality, it's the emotionally unhinged yahoos using them that are the problem
Number 2. can also be taken in two ways because if it's true that everyone teleports back to there original realm that means if they moved and made a family outside of their original world they will never see them again... also what happens to the children of the mixed races, do they just teleport back to the planet they were born on with no one or do they at least get the leeway that say a child gets to stay with one parent. Then there is also the fact that so many people left there worlds because their worlds were awful, they then just get teleported back to their awful world one day no idea why but are now trapped there.
I just hate how writers can think that destroying magic should even be possible. No one ever destroys gravity. So why do they keep trying to destroy magic? Because they never saw it as part of their world is why. Not really. It was always this small thing to them that existed to tell the story and nothing more. Magic should be a part of the world. Star could have destroyed the magic source her family drew from. That shouldn't be the only source of magic the show shows though. Even Star VS has to have other magic sources, but we didn't see that and they just described the pools star blew up as magic itself.
@@Merilirem In some stories, they describe magic as a sort of...energy that exists in all things (like chi, mana or aura.) In which case, you couldn't simply wipe it out *snaps fingers* like THAT because it resides within all things
destroying the magic was a really bad decision and completely unnecessary. Them destroying the magic and merging the worlds is also going to start a whole new horrible sequence of events but now monsters and mewmans alike wont have magic to defend themselves against guns, chemical weapons and bombs. The fact that their worlds were forced together are going to create entirely new tensions. The humans wont like it because now the mewmans and monsters are screwing with everything they knew. big monsters are destroying houses, humans would see loved ones killed, etc.
Svtfoe has been trending a lot recently and it really just reminded me how much I hated the finale of the show. Like the way Mina is still the worst villain of the series esp bc Meteora took her out like nothing in the S3 finale so why am I supposed to take her seriously when it’s very easy to deal with her. Then the bs they had to pull to not be able to take away the powers of the new warriors like it makes me mad just thinking about sm character assassination S4 did. Then rushing the dark magic corruption in the realm of magic that went absolutely no where.
Yeah ok just gonna weigh in here. On something that nobody talks about/has mentioned yet in everywhere i have read. As i re watched the finale i think i got it. I think i got why the finale upset me so much. It was a subtle writing flaw that ticked me off as a writer that i didn't get until now. But now that i do ii understand why i still have issues. Simply put i let myself be confused by her wanting to stop mina. This is not important in the long run. What upset me so much was that Star never considered all the problems for others not on mewni without magic(or the spells) . what star did was the antithesis of the whole show, she became what she hated, a queen making a big decision for everyone else without actually considering the wants and needs of others. That is why i was so upset. When you break it down that is so against what Star's character is that it's downright upsetting. It sort of just...Makes her what she hated so much. Someone who makes decisions for others, saying it's for the best without asking anyone else. Literally her entire problem with the commission was this very thing and them lying about it saying ti was for the greater good of mewni. She basically does the same thing that feels so wrong Its just... So selfish. And there are no real consequences or fallout of this that affects her in a negative personal way It makes Star almost into a Mary Sue Everyone loves her and accepts her decisions no matter what and faces no consequences for her actions She kills magic and gets the guy in the end Simply put it makes star a hypocrite. Think about it. Star is litteraly a giant hypocrite by the end of the series and nobody points this out or addresses it. Heck even most people pointing out the problems of the show DON'T point THIS out either.
100% correct btw. She made a huge decision that effects the entire universe only after talking to like a small group of people about it. That, in itself, is incredibly flawed. No matter how much the writers may say "Everything is fine," logic dictates that it cannot be that simple.
@@PatlandOneTwoThreeFourFive This is a similar issue I had with Legend of Korra’s second seasons last episode where she just randomly decided to keep the spirit portal open and not think about the major consequences that could have on the world without talking to anyone else but Tenzin who would already be bias about the situation.
Yeah she was pushed to it by blue boi but she should have found a way to go beyond his plans. Not just end up playing right into them. He still could have gotten what he wanted but on Stars terms.
I hate almost the entirety of the series finale but there’s one small moment I really really love, when they’re all saying the whispering spell and all the past queens appear, the contrast between Moon tearing up upon seeing her mother and then Eclipsa blocking out Solaria with her wings its such a tiny gem of a moment buried in a shit show of a finale
18:18 Star finishing the spell that Soloria started would have been better than what we got in Cleaved. Also, Star destroying the wand in the process is not only bad due to killing the spells inside, but also killing another living object (since the wand used to be a living dragon head when Justin the Uncalculated owned it).
imo they should have had the villain destroy magic, and then show magic already coming back at the end. Basically, "the heroes lost the battle, but magic will return, and the war will continue." A perfect ending for how the show presented it all.
The Answer is "NO!" With destroying magic Star also destroyed creatures whos made out of magic are now dead! What happens to Mewni WHO relys on magic to function?! All those Spider With A Top Hat episodes now feels like filler knowing that both him and all those spells are gonna die later! Heckapoo (the only good one of the high magic commission), is now dead! and most importantly... THE VILLIAN TOFFEE ACTUALLY WON!!! The finale has gotta be one of the WORST next to Game Of Thrones! And confidently they BOTH came out in 2019! ☠️
I was one of the biggest stans and defenders for this show when I was a teen and honestly I remember the finale was tough to defend even if I liked it. It's one of the ballsiest and most shocking kids show endings ever so I respect it, especially for coming out at the same time as Steven Universe's ending and being the polar opposite. But there is so much wrong with that one decision in the ending that people overlook insanely big plot holes: I have never seen someone mention that time magic is fickle in this universe and theoretically time should just be frozen. And space time should collapse. However, as funny as it is, I think the ending could have been passible if they added one word: "Mewman magic" If they emphasized just the mewman magic, the sacrifices would have been stable, the worlds can still merge, the commentary is still intact, the universe doesn't collapse, the trillions of magical creatures not affiliated with mewni would still exist, we wouldn't have mewni just... control all the magic in the multiverse. Like no one mentions just how that one word would have made the sacrifice mathematically logical.
SVTFOE is forever ruined because of the finale. So much wasted potential. Star and Moon are my least favorite characters now after watching the finale.
it actually makes me happy how after my svtfoe liking revived this recent december, I found out abt your svtfoe videos and I love how you upload this one this year LOL Edit: In my opinion, no, I dislike how they didn't thought abt the implications of it and how it just feels like a deranged thing in general, there's so much stuff in this show that pisses me off even if it is like my favorite cartoon
It avoids the real problem: that a huge amount of people use the power for terrible purposes. Instead of everyone becoming wiser and able to be at least a little more responsible with magic, they remove the magic and kill everyone that relied on it to live. Better ending, have everyone begin to put in effort to get along better. Not everyone just gets along better, everyone starts working to get along better.
I think we needed to find out about Toffees master more than anything, hey who knows maybe a monster and mewman alliance's against that unknown villain could be the start of the peace that Comet wanted
At least Dragon Age did a better job with the whole Magic is dangerous argument. The Chantry, which is the dominant religion in the Continent of Thedas preaches that magic is meant to serve Mankind, not rule over it. They also state that mages, the people who use magic, fall pray to corruption as they are possessed by demons, who use their bodies as a means of spreading chaos across the world. Blood Magic is considered the most dangerous and evil form of magic since many mages use blood magic to control people as well as summon demons. Both the Ancient Elven Empire and Tevinter Imperium were ruled by corrupt mages who enslaved most of the people of Thedas and the rulers of those two empires, the 7 magisters and the Evanuris were responsible for the many disasters that plague Thedas. The Evanuris unintentionally created the Blight when they used a Lyrium Dagger to cut the Titans from the Fade. There was also the part where Solas created the Veil to keep the Evanuris sealed in the Fade when he rebelled against them for their tyranny over the elves. This resulted in the Elves losing their immortality and empire. The 7 Tevinter Magisters used Blood Magic to enter into the Fade, which caused the Blight to be unleashed on Thedas and created the Darkspawn. A lot of characters in the Dragon Age series were affected by magic like Fenris, an elf who was given Lyrium Tattoos by a Magister named Danarius which causes him to phase through objects like a ghost. There’s another side to this whole thing as the Mages are taken from their families as kids and forced to spend the rest of their lives in towers called Circles, in where the Templars watch the mages any move and kill any who would use blood magic. The Qunari mages have it the worst as the Qun treats them like animals as they are chained and leashed. Some Qunari Mages have their mouths sown shut.
honestly its a good show but it has a stupidly massive plot hole that being how did the finger get in the wand to corrupt it there is literally no explanation for it what did the finger grow legs and walk in after moon cut it off
The show should've ended at the end of Eclipsa's coronation. She got the throne back, the people accepted her, her husband and her kid. If it ended there we could theorize how the world changed now that Mewman's and monsters are more united than ever. But of course the show's gotta keep going and destroy magic because...magic is evil?? That's like saying guns are evil. Tools and weapons aren't inherently evil, it's the people that use it that make it good or bad.
What I want to know was why the book kept referencing queens being sent into a volcano when they decided to retire. Like, what was that about!? The writers had too many ideas and not enough focus.
Apparently the butterfly family had a volcano resort house that the queens go to whenever they wanted, Skywynne's own mother Lyric apparently abdicated the throne for her 17 year old daughter cause she found reigning boring and wanted to live in the volcano. What the heck why haven't we seen more of the butterfly family? If they were gonna make filler episodes on season two or three why not focus on the royal family of the butterfly queendom? Show them partying on the volcano and flash ou their opinions on monsters or whatever
@@q.s.w.9074 Good point. Why didn't they use a few episodes to have Star review some key members of the family? It could've started out as research that just became an episode from that members life.
@@shadowarchivist2382 Yesh, that is literally wasted potential on the producers. Why have such cool designs of the butterfly family members, only name aunt Etheria, aunt Felicity and uncle Hertrude. Then never use them again, hell give us a butterfly family episode. It would be interesting to hear other members of the family, their opinions, lives, way of thinking, if they could use magic or even what they thought about them not being true butterflies? So much wasted potential
No Star shouldn't have killed the magic. I don't know why the finale was rushed, but it would have been better if Mina Loveberry had been the final boss. Mina should have turned on the commission, killed them,v snatched the wand in a power grab to transform into her one wing angel form and try to kill Star's mom... There ! That would have been a better ending. Seriously, the commission and Glossirik get off too easily.
Gott say, that early on in the show they laid out hints that this is a narrative they could take and would be very interesting if they actually took time to consider this dilemma, weighing the consequences of magic vs the benefits, actually LISTEN to Ludo's case and the monsters, what sort of power magic gives elected people and how that can be used to oppress others, and even if the current ruler won't do that, the next one might. It was an interesting conversation worth having... But they didn't... And because they failed at having the conversation or consider the negative consequences (Except splitting Marco and Star away from each other.) it feels like a rushed and exceptionally dumb move... if they had followed through and Star did fulfill Ludo's wish, and the narrative had carried the theme, it could have been so great... But it just wasn't...
Absolutely Not! No one should ever, ever, destroy the foundation of what makes their story's universe unique and interesting for some overhyped ship or other excuses, especially in fantasy or science fiction. This ending annoyed me more than Game of Thrones ending. At least supernatural stuff still exists in George RR Martin's world.
30:28 I have to disagree I absolutely hate that scene. Because in a way everything conflict in the series endgame is ultimately her fault. The solarian warriors spell. Her grooming mina into a bigot. All her fault and in the end without any on screen development she's all "I accept you and monsters now! " Unbelievable.
Very true, my favorite part of that scene is actually Eclupsa being surprised by her butterfly form & using her wing to block out her mother, it felt like a very purposeful counter to Moon's reaction to her mom. Also, if I was her I would've yanked my kid away from her grandma 😅
Tbh, as a casual fan of the show, I had a very different impression of its ending. I also hoped for a different ending, rather than just destroying the magic and having everyone be separated forever. However, I thought that after they destroyed the magic at its source, they spawned a new magic dimension. This is from having Star and Marco staying together when all the dimensions and people reset. That spark is what allowed for a new magic to form and merge all dimensions together because of how much they wanted to stay together. TL:DR Star destroyed the magic and restarted it with Marco. Allowing for a new world without the established baggage.
😂 I find it so funny when certain shows randomly make their way back in the algorithm. Star vs has been alllll over my recommended and I ended up watching a ton of your videos 😂 thought it was just me but I guess there was a random resurgence
I know it probably will never happen but I would love to see a revival of the series where they fix all the problems and show what happened after the show originally ended
This show felt like improve. It's like someone said, " Here is an idea, let's see where it goes! ", for every episode. To answer the question of this video, NO. The answer is no. Star is so convinced magic is bad to the point she has to destroy it but only hesitates when it means she can't have Marco. She should have thought about how this would affect the multiverse instead of her love life. When the show first started Star was portrayed as being impulsive and running into situations headfirst without thinking and after all this time ...she still is! I don't know why there are rumors of this getting a movie, but not even that can save this show. This needs a hard reset.
Does magic have negative effects? Yes. One need only look at how irresponsibly Star uses it to see how it can be potentially extremely dangerous in the wrong hands. Solaria's works also showed how it can be used as a devastating weapon with...concerning effects on those on whom it was wielded, as Mina herself shows. It also has been used as a weapon to conquer territories where those conquerors have no claim, and likely used as a tool to keep some rather bad actors on top (a somewhat miner example can be seen with Heckapoo keeping Marco from leaving his dimension and interfering with the council's plans during the attempted coup/ Monster extermination). That said, let's look at the positives: regardless of the history and politics, it's an effective means of protecting against the wrath of said monsters, and let's not kid ourselves: no one is going to take being attacked, robbed, or worse for the crimes of their ancestors lying down. It's likely served medicinal purposes and has made travel between dimensions a borderline casual affair, a major boon for trade and spreading information, with some entire dimensions set aside for commercial purposes. It's also worth noting that even if a lot of fans don't like her, the horse head is a friend to Star, and while sentimental, I think most would look at a close friend they made through trends like this as a reason why they'd want certain aspects of life to remain in place if that friendship or other close relationships can only exist because of that factor. For example, for all people complain about social media/phones, how many would feel the distance of faraway loved ones more acutely if they again had to rely on hand-written notes for communication? This means that beside some creatures that need magic to live at all, there are many societies spanning an unquantifiable multiverse that rely on magic to function, effecting countless beings' livelihoods and living standards. In short, even giving Star the point of it causing a net negative for her area based on the historical difficulties (for the sake of the argument, as looking above, it's hard to say that even that makes sense), this is ultimately destroying an ocean-spanning ecosystem over the affairs of a puddle.
Exactly magic is a tool Some the butterflies like solaria and crescenta use the magic for dark spells and kill their enemies while Comet moons mother tried to get the monster and mewhaumns to get along And, toffie is just a puppet for game and most of the butterflies didn't try with peace trevif comet was the one who tried was killed by toffee while festavia was too busy partying and listening to heckapoo who she is bad person and her daughter's end up becoming up worse her and most of them don't even try to help the monsters magic is a tool is up to you how you it and Justin and comet tried to make make, peace with monsters and the answer is no
Apprently as well. In season 1 and most of 2's development. the show had writers from avatar the last airbender on it's team which honeslty expalins alot. In season 1 the show was great at juggling a large cast of major and minor characters as well as having a slowly building overarching plot. However in 2 you can really feel the show starting to buckle and that's beacuse the writers left to go make dragon prince halfway through season 2's creation. this explains A LOT about what feels so off about seaosn 2 as it's essiently Daron Nefcy startign to to take direct writing control and the old writers leaving. This would explain alot about seasons 3 and 4 and esepcially when some earth characters like Jackie or Janna feel unfinished and like they had something in the works to be revealed but it went nowwhere. Most likley left over plot outlines from the avatar wrriters.
Functionally the series was attempting to take on the moral issue of settler imperialism. The hardest thing to take on because it's the most evil thing humanity has ever done but the world superpower did it so most people don't care. The series final conclusion is that destroying the weapon that allows the settler system was the best choice despite the problems it could cause and I'm fine with that conclusion from the moral perspective of what it was teaching however it's done messy.
I think it has competition for title of most evil. In the case of America’s supposed original sin, I’d like to direct your attention to the book The War Before Civilization. Basically, the tribes were slaughtering each other long before the huwite man ever set foot on the continent. There are tribes that remain unnamed to this day because they didn’t survive the Tribal Wars. This idea that all was peaceful until whitey showed up is one that needs to join Fyre Festival in the dustbin of history.
I actually wrote something similar to this when I saw the episode where Toffe destroyed magic. Many of the points also translate to Star destroying it. I reposted it below. "HOW IS PONYHEAD STILL ALIVE? She is a floating head that shoots lasers from her horn and constantly sparkles from the neck hole that she uses like a pocket. There is ZERO nonmagical explanation for her existence. If this is the case, how was she still around after Star destroyed the realm of magic? It goes even deeper than that. How could Toffee regrow a hole in his chest after he tried to destroy magic in 3.4? If they are both using magic, then it's not a stretch to assume that other monsters also use magic similarly. Think of Buff Frog jumping long distances while holding two people and Slime healing spider bites instantly after touching them. I'll give the show points for showing Glosseryck and the MHC disappearing with the magic, but they are the only ones mentioned to have died! It seems the writers didn't think about the full ramifications of how destroying magic would affect the world they built. It would also be ironic that Toffee's plan to destroy magic would make it possible for him to be killed and doom his fellow monster's extinction, while the Mewmans would have a better chance to rebuild and recover." As for your video, it's a good point about if Tom being able of moving between the underworld and anywhere else. that also apply to every other person, industry, or world that relies on Interdimensional Scissors. Immagion the breakdown of trade.
I haven't thought about star vs in a while,I still belive there was another way instead of destroying the magic,there's always more than one way to solve a problem
When the show was on air, I had assumed that Festivia WAS Eclipsa’s daughter. Especially because they do look a lot alike. I figured she was Shastakan’s child of obligation for the purposes of an heir, then she ran off and had Meteora in secret with Globgor. That would make a lot more sense if we’re honest…otherwise, the whole magic system kind of feels weak.
I kinda wish star is related to eclipsa, but she is related through eclipsa's ancestor queen jushtin, who after his reign started a life with a peasant girl, maybe down the line Thier descendent ended up back in meunie as a peasant who the mhc chose to become queen after eclipsa
I never watched Star Vs. but I've heard about this ending to high heaven and seen enough clips to get a general idea of how dumb a choice this was. It feels to me like some sort of super rushed "anti-gun/anti-war" PSA. The idea that "some people have used magic to hurt others, thus magic can only ever cause harm". Doesn't matter how much good has come from its use, so long as there is a potential for people to exploit it in the future, it must be bad. So what do you do? You use magic to put an end to magic, cause a genocide in the process, and now no longer have that resource to deal with threats that require magic to deal with. There was no way they were gonna pull this ending off, even if they spent an entire season focused on the subject.
As someone who actually LIKES the finale (Keep in mind, as a Disney show, I think it's a ballsier finale than Gravity Falls or Owl House or Amphibia, it just reminds me of think The Last Jedi and it's "backlash"), ironically, I didn't LIKE that Solaria, as a ghost, just plain accepts Eclipsa right then and there. I just think she's too far gone to be forgiven, and it would have been better for Eclipsa to reject her. Let's just say my fanfic (titled Hekapoo Vs. The Legion Of Affliction, by the way) is gonna go HEAVILY to this route. But yeah, the finale is not horrible. I can see that it's flawed, but calling it horrible is a stretch, that's like calling the OK K.O. finale horrible. It's good, but also flawed.
I rewatch this series just for the first season. It was so fun, silly and playful. No shipping wars, no end of the world drama etc. Just a young, bubbly magical princess. Going on crazy adventures with her friends. Exploring, learning and adjusting to a new world. While battling monsters along the way.
I mean given the genocides it caused, hell no. I'll give her merging the Worlds, if she could have done that without destroying magic, I'm up for that. But no, Destroying magic was never the correct choice.
Here is lies a problem I have with alot of series with magic lately. In that it comes down to, and I'm gonna be mean about it, "Unga Bunga Magic Bad, Humans Good. Humans can't do bad, that mean Humans being held held responsible for their actions." Like seriously writers, knock that shit off, stop Doing in the Wizard, it's a Coward's Trope.
real answer: no, it was a last minute asspull, nothing in the last season made sense because the show changed direction and did a 180 halfway through, the wizzard guy i forgot his name holds the princess and says that the future of magic is in good hands and then he tells star to destroy magic. It wold have made sense if it was revealed that magic isnt entirely gone and it was him just being a dick and playing with people again to get what he wanted probably to restore the original bloodline or something as he stopped carng after stars grandma dies or maybe he wanted to undo the time loop of him creating magic to begin with without getting rid of magic as magic is still around in some other way but nope, we got a las villain with no build up and no reason to be there when we had a perfectly good villain at home just waiting to show up and wreck things after having character growth
Notice whenever she did the whispering spell the magic ceases for a moment… then it gets resetted in a sense….. She did the spell in the realm of magic…. And yet after the magic was gone… a portal or a something links between her home and earth… and the worlds clash into one… with strange colors dancing the sky The old magic is dead… prehaps a new age of magic is in its infancy….. I’ll say it once I’ll say it again. This finale is a good SEASON finale… not a SERIES finale
This coming out at the same time the GOT series finale did, really had me pissed for the rest of May. From that finale on, Star became one of my least favorite characters of all time. There was no justification for what Star did and tbh I should have seen this coming from when Starco moved from fun friendship to predictable and boring relationship.
Yeah, while I didn't freak out about it like most people, I never liked the decision to destroy magic. It came across as something Star did without properly considering the consequences. Hardly anyone else did for that matter. All Marco says when he sees Hekapoo for the last time is "man, Im gonna miss her". That an awfully tame reaction to the fact that you're gonna have to participate in indirectly killing your longtime friend. Of course the writers bent their own rules so Star didn't have to bear the burden of crippling or straight up killing her closest friends. I also just liked the magic factor of this show. It was so creative and fun, so destroying it really bummed me out. I would've much preferred if the magic was SHARED instead. Magic has always been exclusive to the Butterflies and their allies, and that provided them with a major advantage over monsters. To share the magic it would put everyone on equal ground, allow the monsters to fight back. They could use magic to increase their quality of life. It would probably be the catalyst for the monsters starting their own government again. They could replace the MHC with a much more reasonable and competent team so magic is still regulated but not to an oppressive degree. I’m also REALLY glad you brought up Star’s extended family on her mothers side. We really should’ve seen their reaction to Star abdicating the throne to Eclipsa, and the fact that none of them were actual Butterflies to begin with.
Another thing that bothers me about this decision (among many), is that the episode treats Star like she's wiser beyond her years for making such a mature decision, even if might mean that she never sees Marco again, but I think in reality, she's still an immature little girl who should've _never_ been given this kind of power, because her priorities are almost _entirely_ in the wrong place, and she never really thought through the implications of her decision. Now, for most situations, this could be forgivable, since she is just a young teenager, and immaturity kinda comes with the territory, _however,_ she also still made a stupid decision that affected so many lives in ways she could never have imagined. I hate pretty much everything about that finale, and looking back, the entire philosophy of the show at large is incredibly flawed, and it makes me believe that the creator herself, is perhaps just as immature and shortsighted as her protagonist.
here's an idea. Ask the question "where did magic come from?" for a start, we see that the first "new humans" find the (not yet named as such, Muni) by accident (by finding a well that links into the magic realm). how did that portal get there? If we were to find out that something creates magic, we can have the magic come back through it, and have the characters learn/decide to use magic responsibly (like, for example, NOT give the wand to a new princess, when she turns 12).
19:15 THIS. S4 had good stuff in it (showcasing Eclipsa as well intended yet clumsy queen that makes you realize there was nuance in her previous reign), but instead of building up the conflict decently for the final climax, we have loads of shipping drama and nods for the eventual canonicity of Starco.
I think it would have made more sense to destroy the magic if the tainted unicorn was causing the Solarian Warriors to be unstoppable and there was nothing they could do because their own magic stopped working properly and was slowly corrupting them as well. It would have made more sense to make that big of a call instead of Star saying, "My temper tantrum was right" and also brought the magic being tainted full circle in the story arc.
apparetnly tom can still travel through the different worlds (underworld and earth/mewni) even after teh magic is gone? which means his magic is spereate than the magic on mewni (which was supposed to be the magic in the universe (maybe idfferent multiverses have diff magic but they never said anything ablout that). but if that was how it was, it didn't make sense how he couldn't travel back to the underworld when heckapoo shut down all teh portals. its not supposed to eb the same magic, yet he can't portal.
honestly part of the reason i never finished the show was mina suddenly being unstoppable like??????? i hardly ever thought of her and SHE was the last big bad??????? AND THEY DIDNT JUST USE THE SPEEL WITH NO NAME OR BLACK VELVET INFERNO TO KILL HER????? outrageous. the other part was the shipping wars i thought it was so stupid and ima be real; thought star and tom worked better. like the whole situation w star n marco feels like that one south park ep u talked about where they changed the flag, i feel like if they just kissed earlier on they woulda got it outta their systems n moved on idk im gonna go get pudding
It's sad that they make the end like this, I still hope for some form of continuation like next season, movie or spin off, but SVTFOE really deserved a better ending. In my opinion they could make this much better than this. I'm just happy a little because of Star and Marco, at least they had ,, happy ending '' but it wasn't soon enough, they should be couple in season 3 finale
Destroying the magic was by far the stupidest decision in the world. What makes the decision even worse is that there are so many people who ended up dying when the magic got destroyed
Heheh that meme withvthe 8 bit chiptune dj gameboy styled.. song titled magic... forvharryvpotter came to mind ngl :D
Not to mention trapping those who might’ve been doing business in other worlds.
@brandonlyon730 everyone form different worlds got sent back to there home dimensions
@@bluejay8453 According to what? What if families or relationships had come from different worlds like Marco and Star that didn't have there worlds merge, those families and couples will now be split up forever from being from different home dimensions.
1000% agree
To prevent a genocide she inadvertently caused a genocide by destroying magic
“I used the chance of a magical genocide to destroy the chance of a magical genocide .” - Star
Star canonically made a war crime and the show is just fine with it
She killed trillions to save a few thousands
And the genocide that she committed was much larger than the one that Mina committed because it affected every dimension where magic existed.
@@danielshaffer-green5684 star is unironically the biggest genocide in the multiverse
Imagine if instead of Moon and Eclipsa joining star in destroying magic, the ghost of Solaria sits next to star and they have a talk about how the world has changed and solaria gives star the means to undo all the solarian warriors
Exactly my thoughts.
Why would Solaria do that, she hated monsters
@@sarahtelles1931She changed close to the end, the show didn't show it, but close to the end the crusaders had a revelation and changed which is why Lolliberry revolted from the new change and why Eclipsa had the mindset to fall for a monster.
@@sarahtelles1931 whats 1 Character inconsistency wen there are like Dozens of them
@@sarahtelles1931 Perhaps she had a change of heart in the afterlife.
I hated how it murdered the magical creatures her spells created. We had an episode about them and their life inside her wand!
the salt in the wound was that ponyhead lived.
@@mizv4043 it literally doesn't make sense either! They let her live because they know everyone hates her
TWO episodes about the wandering creatures, actually.
Makes it worse because they (tried at least) to go out of their way to characterise literal magic.
@Lydia-l7m Not to mention, even to the extent where two of them had a BABY.
A _BABY._
That would mean that Star has canonically killed at _least_ one baby. 😬
@@leirawhitehart1236 that we know of...
I expected an ending for Star as an adult and a responsible and wise queen giving the wand to her daughter.
there are thousands of fan kids on the internet, they could've even have a contest to submit one of those kids to appear in the show for the finale, the ultimate thank you move.
@@asurathewriter4435 that does sound nice but wouldn't it cause some kind of fandom war...?
@@brokenconstellation as far as i know from, other examples it doesn't
Magic wasn't the real problem, it's the monarchy.
After all, the Mewni journal did admit that there were some lousy/chaotic/corrupted rulers that used the wand.
Instead of destroying magic entirely, set all of the spell created creatures free & just destroy the wand or just seal the magic, that way no one dies nor will in cause more harm than good.
destroying magic means that the world becomes infinitely more boring
Facts
FACTS!!
Indeed. You should never allow your characters to be able to destroy a fundamental piece of the world. It would be like destroying gravity. For some reason though writers see magic as an unnatural part of reality. They see it as different and thus primed for destruction. Too many stories end by destroying the thing that made the story possible. That isn't good. Its worse than the main character dying. Because it makes the world left behind worthless.
@@Merilirem yeah, I've seen so many stories end like this. Like it's just the natural conclusion to destroy magic.
Destroying the magic didn't fix anything. Mina litterly said in the finale that she is truly never gone if they kill her since there are gonna be others in the future who will cause conflict and start war eventually which she is right because history always repeats itself somehow.
Technically speaking, destroying the magic is the worst decision because it means it's gonna be harder for the Mewmans/Humans to defend themselves against monsters since species such as septarians like Toffee, and Rasticore who are almost invincible due to them being able to regenerate.
Also, mixing two universe together is stupid, like I feel like there will be a war already happening since it's a democracy and a monarch mixed, which is a problem, lol
Exactly, how can they defend themselves?
Nah. Humans will easily defeat everyone. Their technology faaar outclasses them. What they going to do against a tank, or a heli, or a nuke? Bows, and swords? Their regeneration will only make it worse for them once they face some flamethrowers.
No i think monsters would learn to adapt. They never used magic, and their physical capabilities are useful. Humans would find them valuable as workers, and soldiers to be integrated. Mewmans would suffer the most. They are nothing special now, and they are primitive, and poor. Their value is same as any human beggar. I would also add, that we aren't sure if these abilities are not connected to magic. And if it is, then they will lose it.
@@akuladoctor7355 Eh I think you are underestimating the ones that regenerate, (other then that one that was seemingly just a gag), we saw some that reformed quicker then you could bombard them, if it turns into a war of attrition... well the unkillable monsters are going to win eventually unless you can find a way to contain them scp style.
@@Parasolhyena And they can contain them. Or just put them in chains, then throw them into the ocean. They can drown forever.
@@Parasolhyena Humans will just tear them into pieces, then while they are busy regenerating put them into chains, then throw them into an ocean. Or just contain them. Or design a poison, or virus. The problem is, that humans have technology that makes them immune to everything the monsters have. What are they going to do with a damn tank? Or a fighter jet? Also when Meteora destroyed Rasticore it was just a strong grenade. Humans have rockets with similar power.
I also think, that flamethrower would deal with them. Even, if they can out-regenerate it they will have so much pain, that they cannot move.
The end of the series is basically
We did it, Patrick. we saved the city from the monster 😂😂😂
7:40 YES, THOUSAND TIMES YES. 15:26 Toffee is a puppet of Glossaryck, Glossaryck set up Toffee on his war path to destroy magic on the first place. Glossaryck brought Meteora to scare Toffee into anti magic rhetoric and when Star disrupted that Glossaryck began pushing Star to destroy magic. 31:42 honestly I feel that Owl House is result of Dana Terrace watching all of Star vs, talking notes and makes a better show just to show Daron Nefcy how to right a proper fantasy story.
Exactly magic is a tool it's up to you how you use it the main reason why meteora got corrupted as an adult due to having bad mental health and abuse Magic is not the main cause of problem it's you how you use it thus toffee is just a puppet for glossarycky and how much magic you use the reason why eclipsa mother considered a dictator because she made the spell with no spell is dangerous
I said the same thing and no one talked about it until now. If Toffee knew the truth, he would have back down and not go through with the plan. He would have been furious that he was being used.
glossaryck is the true villain of the series. He could have easily sent the first mewmans back to earth but instead he gave them magic and let things progress.
Honestly, Star gets a lot of Hate when she is just another Puppet for Glossaryck. Everyone ignores him and blames Star, yet they do not blame the one behind everything. Star was thrust into an impossible situation with much pressure on her. The Adults who should have helped were also not much Help and more of a Burden on Star (Caused the problem). The Ones who could have stopped her, given her maybe another way, just went with a Plan a child came up with ( a plan Glossaryck pushed on her and made her think it was her own). They did not question her, did not think a bit further, yet again Star is the one to blame when she had many different Adults by her side, who were also more than okay with destroying magic!
Glossaryck created all the Events, Gave Humans Magic, pushed Humans into invading the Monster territory, Increased and spurred the Hate of Monsters towards Magic and Humans, and in turn made Humans hate Monsters more. He guided the Queens, hid important information, and tricked multiple queens who trusted him (Like when he acted insane), All to destroy magic, because Glosseryck wanted to die. All because he had enough of life, he was more than ready enough to create a genocide and make a little Girl do the dirty work while acting like a Hero who sacrifices himself at the end ("A Captian always goes down with his Ship") funny quote for a Captian who made others drill holes into the said ship, so it would sink.
@darkblossum4379 all of these events because Glossaryck wanted to commit suicide. He needed Stars help
I call it bad writing
I love how they just gloss over the many, MANY problems and disasters that will inevitably occur from Mewni and Earth forcibly merging.
You think that the monster/Mewman racism is bad? Just wait until human racism gets thrown in the mix.
And humans have nukes. Without magic, monsters and mewmans have nothing.
I haven't read the printed spellbook to know exactly what spells are mentioned, but the fact that you can make your own spells means she could have summoned queen Solaria to talk to Mina or create a reversal spell or just transport them to another realm. Or even have them get lost in time or loose their memory in the realm of magic.
SO MANY OPTIONS albeit varying degrees of effectiveness but all better than the "destroy the power souce for all magic beings" idea. You could even tie this in with characters like Moon and Eclipsa with having 3 magic users create an ultimate spell would be amazing.
Agreed. She could've made a counter spell with the help of moon, eclipsa, meteora, and possibly even the souls of the ancestors or something.
Toffee only wanted magic destroyed because it was the only thing that could stop him. Without it there is nothing stopping another Lizardman warlord from raising up.
This ending ruined the show for me. I can’t not even rewatch the show because of it.
Other then the magical genocide. There is also the fact that the world now has human and technology from our world. Meaning that monsters will still be persecuted because we know humans will use guns and stuff after the monsters. And the racist mewman would unite with the humans.
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I do want a spin off following Mariposa and Meteora and their goal being about bringing magic back. Would be so good.
@@BARALover96 alternatively, the writers could’ve doubled down on Jackie Lynn Thomas being gay, causing Disney to end the show early, forcing the writers to write a new ending around toffee and ludo, and it would’ve probably been better what we got.
I completely understand you. Although for me I can’t say it ruined the show for me, I still love the first few Seasons. The last one was fine by me until…… That atrocious finale. Just horrible.
Marco: What happened to your hearts?
Star: There are no more hearts, there is no magic or kingdom, now I am a normal girl like Janna. Now I'll have to learn how to live without magic...I won't last even 1 week.
I honestly would've preferred that Star decided to end the reign of Queens instead of destroying magic. They could instead turn Mewni into a democracy similar to Moon and River's new home.
Mewmans wouldn't have someone to solve all their problems and be forced to learn things on their own, the MHC wouldn't have anyone to manipulate from childhood into becoming monster racists, and the monsters wouldn't have a power source to steal in the form of a wand.
Yeah, like in the owl house.
That shows how good the owl house is, it successfully where star fails...
@Lydia-l7m The Owl House is Star vs. the Forces of Evil done right.
I would have also went with them safely freezing time, gathering mina's army and the commission. Trap them in the neverzone with pro monster merch on the commission.
Heckapoo close off dimensional travel to and from there. Mina's broken mind would cause her to destroy the commission AND they would be trapped in the Neverzone forever.
While corrupt magic would be real issue, Star and Marco fight Tom. Tom gets cured but Marco gets corrupted via impalement, his monster arm returns but he becomes one with it. *Think Monster Human hybrid*, Star kisses him which purifies him but he stays a monster hybrid but is fully in control of everything, then they fight Glossaryck who showed up and got corrupted. Absorbed all the corruption too gain all the power of it, and unlike the other corrupted beings he'd be able to talk.
Fights star and marco in a final fight with his full power in his true form, they blast him with the wand AND in their own butterfly forms, marco's being a bit more monster like.
Star becomes the new guardian, etc.
@danielshaffer-green5684 That's literally what I was thinking!
*glances at the history of US expansion across North America, Israel's ongoing actions in Gaza, the French Republic's colonialism, etc.* Why exactly would being a democracy do anything to solve the problems of racism and genocide?
29:00 THIS! The girl who's spent the entire show going "na, I'mma do things my own way" commits genocide because a piece of fabric told her too?
Short answer:No
Long answer:HELL NO
Me: crank that hell hell no to 11
I was about to say the same.
@@kathyvallejo7884 th-cam.com/video/cfYwCt2eKTQ/w-d-xo.html
I used to LOVE this show...
I've seen many other shows talk about the destruction of magic and while much of them came from the same reasoning Star did (to a degree,) the other protagonists realized how stupid the idea actually was. Here are several reasons why this is so.
1. Many creatures (in Star's universe, at least) are born from magic itself including but not limited to the Warnicorns, fairies and of course, Spider with a Top Hat. By destroying magic, Star had essentially committed a mass genocide that rivals both the Exterminations from Hazbin AND the universal destruction caused by the Diamond Authority on Steven Universe.
2. Several people traveled to other worlds before Star's choice was made, such as when that one squire decided staying in the Never-Zone was better than her own world. By destroying magic, Star trapped these poor schmucks in those worlds for all eternity; far from their families and loved ones.
3. In other universes where protags considered destroying magic; they ultimately realized, in the end, that their actions wouldn't make THEM any better than their villains.
In short, not only did Star make a VERY stupid decision but to this day, many people consider this finale as bad as Season 8 of Game of Thrones. Furthermore, someone should've taught Star that it's not the WEAPON that's good or evil but the individual USING IT! Why is this such a hard lesson for people to remember?!
Even in the real world, people wish guns never existed...when in reality, it's the emotionally unhinged yahoos using them that are the problem
Remember The Series Finales For SVTFOE And GOT Aired On The Same Day.
Huh, great points. :)
Number 2. can also be taken in two ways because if it's true that everyone teleports back to there original realm that means if they moved and made a family outside of their original world they will never see them again... also what happens to the children of the mixed races, do they just teleport back to the planet they were born on with no one or do they at least get the leeway that say a child gets to stay with one parent. Then there is also the fact that so many people left there worlds because their worlds were awful, they then just get teleported back to their awful world one day no idea why but are now trapped there.
I just hate how writers can think that destroying magic should even be possible. No one ever destroys gravity. So why do they keep trying to destroy magic? Because they never saw it as part of their world is why. Not really. It was always this small thing to them that existed to tell the story and nothing more. Magic should be a part of the world. Star could have destroyed the magic source her family drew from. That shouldn't be the only source of magic the show shows though. Even Star VS has to have other magic sources, but we didn't see that and they just described the pools star blew up as magic itself.
@@Merilirem In some stories, they describe magic as a sort of...energy that exists in all things (like chi, mana or aura.)
In which case, you couldn't simply wipe it out *snaps fingers* like THAT because it resides within all things
5:00 Thank you so much for bringing that up! I always thought that Moon would do the same thing if the roles were switched.
It was the writers that assassinated her character. They fired so many people before the movie and fired the continuity executive.
destroying the magic was a really bad decision and completely unnecessary. Them destroying the magic and merging the worlds is also going to start a whole new horrible sequence of events but now monsters and mewmans alike wont have magic to defend themselves against guns, chemical weapons and bombs. The fact that their worlds were forced together are going to create entirely new tensions. The humans wont like it because now the mewmans and monsters are screwing with everything they knew. big monsters are destroying houses, humans would see loved ones killed, etc.
Svtfoe has been trending a lot recently and it really just reminded me how much I hated the finale of the show. Like the way Mina is still the worst villain of the series esp bc Meteora took her out like nothing in the S3 finale so why am I supposed to take her seriously when it’s very easy to deal with her. Then the bs they had to pull to not be able to take away the powers of the new warriors like it makes me mad just thinking about sm character assassination S4 did. Then rushing the dark magic corruption in the realm of magic that went absolutely no where.
Glossarych going back in time and setting toffee up killed his character for me. It made him the one pulling all the strings
Yeah ok just gonna weigh in here. On something that nobody talks about/has mentioned yet in everywhere i have read.
As i re watched the finale i think i got it. I think i got why the finale upset me so much. It was a subtle writing flaw that ticked me off as a writer that i didn't get until now. But now that i do ii understand why i still have issues. Simply put i let myself be confused by her wanting to stop mina. This is not important in the long run.
What upset me so much was that Star never considered all the problems for others not on mewni without magic(or the spells) . what star did was the antithesis of the whole show, she became what she hated, a queen making a big decision for everyone else without actually considering the wants and needs of others. That is why i was so upset. When you break it down that is so against what Star's character is that it's downright upsetting.
It sort of just...Makes her what she hated so much.
Someone who makes decisions for others, saying it's for the best without asking anyone else.
Literally her entire problem with the commission was this very thing and them lying about it saying ti was for the greater good of mewni.
She basically does the same thing
that feels so wrong
Its just...
So selfish.
And there are no real consequences or fallout of this that affects her in a negative personal way
It makes Star almost into a Mary Sue
Everyone loves her and accepts her decisions no matter what and faces no consequences for her actions
She kills magic and gets the guy in the end
Simply put it makes star a hypocrite. Think about it. Star is litteraly a giant hypocrite by the end of the series and nobody points this out or addresses it. Heck even most people pointing out the problems of the show DON'T point THIS out either.
100% correct btw.
She made a huge decision that effects the entire universe only after talking to like a small group of people about it.
That, in itself, is incredibly flawed.
No matter how much the writers may say "Everything is fine," logic dictates that it cannot be that simple.
@@PatlandOneTwoThreeFourFive This is a similar issue I had with Legend of Korra’s second seasons last episode where she just randomly decided to keep the spirit portal open and not think about the major consequences that could have on the world without talking to anyone else but Tenzin who would already be bias about the situation.
Star would come up with some whacky idea that would solve all problems not just destroy it. Strangely this feels like something Meteora would do.
Yeah she was pushed to it by blue boi but she should have found a way to go beyond his plans. Not just end up playing right into them. He still could have gotten what he wanted but on Stars terms.
I hate almost the entirety of the series finale but there’s one small moment I really really love, when they’re all saying the whispering spell and all the past queens appear, the contrast between Moon tearing up upon seeing her mother and then Eclipsa blocking out Solaria with her wings its such a tiny gem of a moment buried in a shit show of a finale
18:18 Star finishing the spell that Soloria started would have been better than what we got in Cleaved. Also, Star destroying the wand in the process is not only bad due to killing the spells inside, but also killing another living object (since the wand used to be a living dragon head when Justin the Uncalculated owned it).
imo they should have had the villain destroy magic, and then show magic already coming back at the end. Basically, "the heroes lost the battle, but magic will return, and the war will continue."
A perfect ending for how the show presented it all.
What's this!? A new Star vs the Forces of Evil video 3 years later!?
The Answer is "NO!" With destroying magic Star also destroyed creatures whos made out of magic are now dead! What happens to Mewni WHO relys on magic to function?!
All those Spider With A Top Hat episodes now feels like filler knowing that both him and all those spells are gonna die later!
Heckapoo (the only good one of the high magic commission), is now dead!
and most importantly... THE VILLIAN TOFFEE ACTUALLY WON!!!
The finale has gotta be one of the WORST next to Game Of Thrones! And confidently they BOTH came out in 2019! ☠️
Even On The Exact Same Day.
It doesn't make them filler. It makes Star's actions worse. She killed those spells.
I was one of the biggest stans and defenders for this show when I was a teen and honestly I remember the finale was tough to defend even if I liked it. It's one of the ballsiest and most shocking kids show endings ever so I respect it, especially for coming out at the same time as Steven Universe's ending and being the polar opposite.
But there is so much wrong with that one decision in the ending that people overlook insanely big plot holes: I have never seen someone mention that time magic is fickle in this universe and theoretically time should just be frozen. And space time should collapse.
However, as funny as it is, I think the ending could have been passible if they added one word: "Mewman magic"
If they emphasized just the mewman magic, the sacrifices would have been stable, the worlds can still merge, the commentary is still intact, the universe doesn't collapse, the trillions of magical creatures not affiliated with mewni would still exist, we wouldn't have mewni just... control all the magic in the multiverse. Like no one mentions just how that one word would have made the sacrifice mathematically logical.
SVTFOE is forever ruined because of the finale. So much wasted potential. Star and Moon are my least favorite characters now after watching the finale.
it actually makes me happy how after my svtfoe liking revived this recent december, I found out abt your svtfoe videos and I love how you upload this one this year LOL
Edit: In my opinion, no, I dislike how they didn't thought abt the implications of it and how it just feels like a deranged thing in general, there's so much stuff in this show that pisses me off even if it is like my favorite cartoon
It avoids the real problem: that a huge amount of people use the power for terrible purposes. Instead of everyone becoming wiser and able to be at least a little more responsible with magic, they remove the magic and kill everyone that relied on it to live. Better ending, have everyone begin to put in effort to get along better. Not everyone just gets along better, everyone starts working to get along better.
I think we needed to find out about Toffees master more than anything, hey who knows maybe a monster and mewman alliance's against that unknown villain could be the start of the peace that Comet wanted
At least Dragon Age did a better job with the whole Magic is dangerous argument. The Chantry, which is the dominant religion in the Continent of Thedas preaches that magic is meant to serve Mankind, not rule over it. They also state that mages, the people who use magic, fall pray to corruption as they are possessed by demons, who use their bodies as a means of spreading chaos across the world. Blood Magic is considered the most dangerous and evil form of magic since many mages use blood magic to control people as well as summon demons. Both the Ancient Elven Empire and Tevinter Imperium were ruled by corrupt mages who enslaved most of the people of Thedas and the rulers of those two empires, the 7 magisters and the Evanuris were responsible for the many disasters that plague Thedas. The Evanuris unintentionally created the Blight when they used a Lyrium Dagger to cut the Titans from the Fade. There was also the part where Solas created the Veil to keep the Evanuris sealed in the Fade when he rebelled against them for their tyranny over the elves. This resulted in the Elves losing their immortality and empire. The 7 Tevinter Magisters used Blood Magic to enter into the Fade, which caused the Blight to be unleashed on Thedas and created the Darkspawn. A lot of characters in the Dragon Age series were affected by magic like Fenris, an elf who was given Lyrium Tattoos by a Magister named Danarius which causes him to phase through objects like a ghost. There’s another side to this whole thing as the Mages are taken from their families as kids and forced to spend the rest of their lives in towers called Circles, in where the Templars watch the mages any move and kill any who would use blood magic. The Qunari mages have it the worst as the Qun treats them like animals as they are chained and leashed. Some Qunari Mages have their mouths sown shut.
honestly its a good show but it has a stupidly massive plot hole that being how did the finger get in the wand to corrupt it there is literally no explanation for it what did the finger grow legs and walk in after moon cut it off
The show should've ended at the end of Eclipsa's coronation. She got the throne back, the people accepted her, her husband and her kid. If it ended there we could theorize how the world changed now that Mewman's and monsters are more united than ever. But of course the show's gotta keep going and destroy magic because...magic is evil?? That's like saying guns are evil. Tools and weapons aren't inherently evil, it's the people that use it that make it good or bad.
What I want to know was why the book kept referencing queens being sent into a volcano when they decided to retire. Like, what was that about!? The writers had too many ideas and not enough focus.
Apparently the butterfly family had a volcano resort house that the queens go to whenever they wanted, Skywynne's own mother Lyric apparently abdicated the throne for her 17 year old daughter cause she found reigning boring and wanted to live in the volcano.
What the heck why haven't we seen more of the butterfly family? If they were gonna make filler episodes on season two or three why not focus on the royal family of the butterfly queendom? Show them partying on the volcano and flash ou their opinions on monsters or whatever
@@q.s.w.9074 Good point. Why didn't they use a few episodes to have Star review some key members of the family? It could've started out as research that just became an episode from that members life.
@@shadowarchivist2382 Yesh, that is literally wasted potential on the producers. Why have such cool designs of the butterfly family members, only name aunt Etheria, aunt Felicity and uncle Hertrude. Then never use them again, hell give us a butterfly family episode. It would be interesting to hear other members of the family, their opinions, lives, way of thinking, if they could use magic or even what they thought about them not being true butterflies?
So much wasted potential
No Star shouldn't have killed the magic. I don't know why the finale was rushed, but it would have been better if Mina Loveberry had been the final boss.
Mina should have turned on the commission, killed them,v snatched the wand in a power grab to transform into her one wing angel form and try to kill Star's mom... There ! That would have been a better ending.
Seriously, the commission and Glossirik get off too easily.
I've been on a major SVTFOE kick so this is like perfect, I would love to see more reviews/analysis videos on individual episodes from you!
13:59 to quote a captain who pushed to the artic "no sacrifice no victory" yet his great great grandson said the same
I wonder who's that captain you're talking about...
Gott say, that early on in the show they laid out hints that this is a narrative they could take and would be very interesting if they actually took time to consider this dilemma, weighing the consequences of magic vs the benefits, actually LISTEN to Ludo's case and the monsters, what sort of power magic gives elected people and how that can be used to oppress others, and even if the current ruler won't do that, the next one might.
It was an interesting conversation worth having... But they didn't...
And because they failed at having the conversation or consider the negative consequences (Except splitting Marco and Star away from each other.) it feels like a rushed and exceptionally dumb move... if they had followed through and Star did fulfill Ludo's wish, and the narrative had carried the theme, it could have been so great... But it just wasn't...
Cleved made Phantom Planet look like a masterpieace
Thanos: “you break the rules and become the hero, I do it and become the bad guy, it doesn’t seem fair.”
Absolutely Not! No one should ever, ever, destroy the foundation of what makes their story's universe unique and interesting for some overhyped ship or other excuses, especially in fantasy or science fiction. This ending annoyed me more than Game of Thrones ending. At least supernatural stuff still exists in George RR Martin's world.
30:28 I have to disagree
I absolutely hate that scene. Because in a way everything conflict in the series endgame is ultimately her fault. The solarian warriors spell. Her grooming mina into a bigot.
All her fault and in the end without any on screen development she's all "I accept you and monsters now! " Unbelievable.
Very true, my favorite part of that scene is actually Eclupsa being surprised by her butterfly form & using her wing to block out her mother, it felt like a very purposeful counter to Moon's reaction to her mom. Also, if I was her I would've yanked my kid away from her grandma 😅
Tbh, as a casual fan of the show, I had a very different impression of its ending. I also hoped for a different ending, rather than just destroying the magic and having everyone be separated forever. However, I thought that after they destroyed the magic at its source, they spawned a new magic dimension. This is from having Star and Marco staying together when all the dimensions and people reset. That spark is what allowed for a new magic to form and merge all dimensions together because of how much they wanted to stay together.
TL:DR
Star destroyed the magic and restarted it with Marco. Allowing for a new world without the established baggage.
I will admit, I've been binge watching star vs vids as I just came across you last week
Better solution share magic and ask
Solaria’s ghost for a counter spell to neutralize her warriors.
Honestly idk why but ive just been getting a ton of svtfoe recently and now i wanna just rewatch the hole show
😂 I find it so funny when certain shows randomly make their way back in the algorithm. Star vs has been alllll over my recommended and I ended up watching a ton of your videos 😂 thought it was just me but I guess there was a random resurgence
Didn't Daron say she wanted to make 6 seasons? And that's why S4 was rushed? Maybe we would have learned more about magic if it got the full number.
Toffe is right. Would have been cool to see him at the end beside a painting joke.
40 mins ago? Woah! I've been watching your star vs. videos recently though! I've always wondered about this episode.
Short answer: no
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooo
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I know it probably will never happen but I would love to see a revival of the series where they fix all the problems and show what happened after the show originally ended
This show felt like improve. It's like someone said, " Here is an idea, let's see where it goes! ", for every episode. To answer the question of this video, NO. The answer is no. Star is so convinced magic is bad to the point she has to destroy it but only hesitates when it means she can't have Marco. She should have thought about how this would affect the multiverse instead of her love life. When the show first started Star was portrayed as being impulsive and running into situations headfirst without thinking and after all this time ...she still is! I don't know why there are rumors of this getting a movie, but not even that can save this show. This needs a hard reset.
Does magic have negative effects? Yes. One need only look at how irresponsibly Star uses it to see how it can be potentially extremely dangerous in the wrong hands. Solaria's works also showed how it can be used as a devastating weapon with...concerning effects on those on whom it was wielded, as Mina herself shows. It also has been used as a weapon to conquer territories where those conquerors have no claim, and likely used as a tool to keep some rather bad actors on top (a somewhat miner example can be seen with Heckapoo keeping Marco from leaving his dimension and interfering with the council's plans during the attempted coup/ Monster extermination).
That said, let's look at the positives: regardless of the history and politics, it's an effective means of protecting against the wrath of said monsters, and let's not kid ourselves: no one is going to take being attacked, robbed, or worse for the crimes of their ancestors lying down. It's likely served medicinal purposes and has made travel between dimensions a borderline casual affair, a major boon for trade and spreading information, with some entire dimensions set aside for commercial purposes. It's also worth noting that even if a lot of fans don't like her, the horse head is a friend to Star, and while sentimental, I think most would look at a close friend they made through trends like this as a reason why they'd want certain aspects of life to remain in place if that friendship or other close relationships can only exist because of that factor. For example, for all people complain about social media/phones, how many would feel the distance of faraway loved ones more acutely if they again had to rely on hand-written notes for communication? This means that beside some creatures that need magic to live at all, there are many societies spanning an unquantifiable multiverse that rely on magic to function, effecting countless beings' livelihoods and living standards.
In short, even giving Star the point of it causing a net negative for her area based on the historical difficulties (for the sake of the argument, as looking above, it's hard to say that even that makes sense), this is ultimately destroying an ocean-spanning ecosystem over the affairs of a puddle.
Star should have just given up her own magic if the writers still wanted the “normal girl” ending. No one had to die for this.
Exactly magic is a tool
Some the butterflies like solaria and crescenta use the magic for dark spells and kill their enemies while
Comet moons mother tried to get the monster and mewhaumns to get along
And, toffie is just a puppet for game and most of the butterflies didn't try with peace trevif comet was the one who tried was killed by toffee while festavia was too busy partying and listening to heckapoo who she is bad person and her daughter's end up becoming up worse her and most of them don't even try to help the monsters magic is a tool is up to you how you it and Justin and comet tried to make make, peace with monsters and the answer is no
Apprently as well. In season 1 and most of 2's development. the show had writers from avatar the last airbender on it's team which honeslty expalins alot. In season 1 the show was great at juggling a large cast of major and minor characters as well as having a slowly building overarching plot. However in 2 you can really feel the show starting to buckle and that's beacuse the writers left to go make dragon prince halfway through season 2's creation. this explains A LOT about what feels so off about seaosn 2 as it's essiently Daron Nefcy startign to to take direct writing control and the old writers leaving.
This would explain alot about seasons 3 and 4 and esepcially when some earth characters like Jackie or Janna feel unfinished and like they had something in the works to be revealed but it went nowwhere. Most likley left over plot outlines from the avatar wrriters.
Eclipsa could have literally just went up to mewnie and used her total inhalation spell and be done with it
What a coincidence, I've been re-watching reviews of the ending of Star vs today.
"No sweetie, I'm not" THAT BROKE MY HEART BRO OMG WTF!? 😭
Functionally the series was attempting to take on the moral issue of settler imperialism. The hardest thing to take on because it's the most evil thing humanity has ever done but the world superpower did it so most people don't care. The series final conclusion is that destroying the weapon that allows the settler system was the best choice despite the problems it could cause and I'm fine with that conclusion from the moral perspective of what it was teaching however it's done messy.
I think it has competition for title of most evil. In the case of America’s supposed original sin, I’d like to direct your attention to the book The War Before Civilization. Basically, the tribes were slaughtering each other long before the huwite man ever set foot on the continent. There are tribes that remain unnamed to this day because they didn’t survive the Tribal Wars. This idea that all was peaceful until whitey showed up is one that needs to join Fyre Festival in the dustbin of history.
Magic, firearms, same arguments, same Putzes causing the problems😮
Yay another Star Vs review!
14:22 I would be fine with the finale If there were no other options
LIKE WHY NOT USE THE SPELL WITH NO NAME
I actually wrote something similar to this when I saw the episode where Toffe destroyed magic. Many of the points also translate to Star destroying it. I reposted it below.
"HOW IS PONYHEAD STILL ALIVE? She is a floating head that shoots lasers from her horn and constantly sparkles from the neck hole that she uses like a pocket. There is ZERO nonmagical explanation for her existence. If this is the case, how was she still around after Star destroyed the realm of magic? It goes even deeper than that. How could Toffee regrow a hole in his chest after he tried to destroy magic in 3.4? If they are both using magic, then it's not a stretch to assume that other monsters also use magic similarly. Think of Buff Frog jumping long distances while holding two people and Slime healing spider bites instantly after touching them.
I'll give the show points for showing Glosseryck and the MHC disappearing with the magic, but they are the only ones mentioned to have died! It seems the writers didn't think about the full ramifications of how destroying magic would affect the world they built.
It would also be ironic that Toffee's plan to destroy magic would make it possible for him to be killed and doom his fellow monster's extinction, while the Mewmans would have a better chance to rebuild and recover."
As for your video, it's a good point about if Tom being able of moving between the underworld and anywhere else. that also apply to every other person, industry, or world that relies on Interdimensional Scissors. Immagion the breakdown of trade.
I haven't thought about star vs in a while,I still belive there was another way instead of destroying the magic,there's always more than one way to solve a problem
I'm so glad to see a video on this topic. This has been my top pressing thing.
I think the reason the views on the star versus videos went up is cus of one guy on TH-cam shorts putting up a lot of clips lately lol
I loved the star vs videos they where the first ones I watched on your channel they got me into you you’re one of my favorites content creators
The answer is no, its like nuking japan only this time the war is only fought on one front.
Star vs content in 2025? YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I almost wanted to stop watching the show halfway through season three. But I’m glad I actually finished it.
When the show was on air, I had assumed that Festivia WAS Eclipsa’s daughter. Especially because they do look a lot alike. I figured she was Shastakan’s child of obligation for the purposes of an heir, then she ran off and had Meteora in secret with Globgor. That would make a lot more sense if we’re honest…otherwise, the whole magic system kind of feels weak.
I kinda wish star is related to eclipsa, but she is related through eclipsa's ancestor queen jushtin, who after his reign started a life with a peasant girl, maybe down the line Thier descendent ended up back in meunie as a peasant who the mhc chose to become queen after eclipsa
I think magic should have just been heavily regulated and they should have gotten rid of the magic high council and put them in jail
I never watched Star Vs. but I've heard about this ending to high heaven and seen enough clips to get a general idea of how dumb a choice this was. It feels to me like some sort of super rushed "anti-gun/anti-war" PSA. The idea that "some people have used magic to hurt others, thus magic can only ever cause harm". Doesn't matter how much good has come from its use, so long as there is a potential for people to exploit it in the future, it must be bad. So what do you do? You use magic to put an end to magic, cause a genocide in the process, and now no longer have that resource to deal with threats that require magic to deal with. There was no way they were gonna pull this ending off, even if they spent an entire season focused on the subject.
As someone who actually LIKES the finale (Keep in mind, as a Disney show, I think it's a ballsier finale than Gravity Falls or Owl House or Amphibia, it just reminds me of think The Last Jedi and it's "backlash"), ironically, I didn't LIKE that Solaria, as a ghost, just plain accepts Eclipsa right then and there. I just think she's too far gone to be forgiven, and it would have been better for Eclipsa to reject her. Let's just say my fanfic (titled Hekapoo Vs. The Legion Of Affliction, by the way) is gonna go HEAVILY to this route.
But yeah, the finale is not horrible. I can see that it's flawed, but calling it horrible is a stretch, that's like calling the OK K.O. finale horrible. It's good, but also flawed.
I rewatch this series just for the first season. It was so fun, silly and playful. No shipping wars, no end of the world drama etc.
Just a young, bubbly magical princess. Going on crazy adventures with her friends. Exploring, learning and adjusting to a new world. While battling monsters along the way.
I mean given the genocides it caused, hell no.
I'll give her merging the Worlds, if she could have done that without destroying magic, I'm up for that.
But no, Destroying magic was never the correct choice.
Here is lies a problem I have with alot of series with magic lately.
In that it comes down to, and I'm gonna be mean about it, "Unga Bunga Magic Bad, Humans Good. Humans can't do bad, that mean Humans being held held responsible for their actions."
Like seriously writers, knock that shit off, stop Doing in the Wizard, it's a Coward's Trope.
real answer: no, it was a last minute asspull, nothing in the last season made sense because the show changed direction and did a 180 halfway through, the wizzard guy i forgot his name holds the princess and says that the future of magic is in good hands and then he tells star to destroy magic. It wold have made sense if it was revealed that magic isnt entirely gone and it was him just being a dick and playing with people again to get what he wanted probably to restore the original bloodline or something as he stopped carng after stars grandma dies or maybe he wanted to undo the time loop of him creating magic to begin with without getting rid of magic as magic is still around in some other way but nope, we got a las villain with no build up and no reason to be there when we had a perfectly good villain at home just waiting to show up and wreck things after having character growth
Notice whenever she did the whispering spell the magic ceases for a moment… then it gets resetted in a sense…..
She did the spell in the realm of magic…. And yet after the magic was gone… a portal or a something links between her home and earth… and the worlds clash into one… with strange colors dancing the sky
The old magic is dead… prehaps a new age of magic is in its infancy…..
I’ll say it once I’ll say it again. This finale is a good SEASON finale… not a SERIES finale
Ironically this was a great birthday gift
Holy shit. In my East Orthodox lands its Chistmas. Still. F**** yeah
This coming out at the same time the GOT series finale did, really had me pissed for the rest of May. From that finale on, Star became one of my least favorite characters of all time. There was no justification for what Star did and tbh I should have seen this coming from when Starco moved from fun friendship to predictable and boring relationship.
The final season of Star Vs. should be completely removed from continuity.
Yeah, while I didn't freak out about it like most people, I never liked the decision to destroy magic. It came across as something Star did without properly considering the consequences. Hardly anyone else did for that matter. All Marco says when he sees Hekapoo for the last time is "man, Im gonna miss her". That an awfully tame reaction to the fact that you're gonna have to participate in indirectly killing your longtime friend.
Of course the writers bent their own rules so Star didn't have to bear the burden of crippling or straight up killing her closest friends. I also just liked the magic factor of this show. It was so creative and fun, so destroying it really bummed me out.
I would've much preferred if the magic was SHARED instead. Magic has always been exclusive to the Butterflies and their allies, and that provided them with a major advantage over monsters. To share the magic it would put everyone on equal ground, allow the monsters to fight back. They could use magic to increase their quality of life. It would probably be the catalyst for the monsters starting their own government again. They could replace the MHC with a much more reasonable and competent team so magic is still regulated but not to an oppressive degree.
I’m also REALLY glad you brought up Star’s extended family on her mothers side. We really should’ve seen their reaction to Star abdicating the throne to Eclipsa, and the fact that none of them were actual Butterflies to begin with.
Another thing that bothers me about this decision (among many), is that the episode treats Star like she's wiser beyond her years for making such a mature decision, even if might mean that she never sees Marco again, but I think in reality, she's still an immature little girl who should've _never_ been given this kind of power, because her priorities are almost _entirely_ in the wrong place, and she never really thought through the implications of her decision.
Now, for most situations, this could be forgivable, since she is just a young teenager, and immaturity kinda comes with the territory, _however,_ she also still made a stupid decision that affected so many lives in ways she could never have imagined.
I hate pretty much everything about that finale, and looking back, the entire philosophy of the show at large is incredibly flawed, and it makes me believe that the creator herself, is perhaps just as immature and shortsighted as her protagonist.
Toffee wanted magic destroyed. Why did he want that?
Because magic was the only means to stop him and his genocidal army.
GJ Star.
here's an idea. Ask the question "where did magic come from?"
for a start, we see that the first "new humans" find the (not yet named as such, Muni) by accident (by finding a well that links into the magic realm).
how did that portal get there?
If we were to find out that something creates magic, we can have the magic come back through it, and have the characters learn/decide to use magic responsibly (like, for example, NOT give the wand to a new princess, when she turns 12).
19:15 THIS. S4 had good stuff in it (showcasing Eclipsa as well intended yet clumsy queen that makes you realize there was nuance in her previous reign), but instead of building up the conflict decently for the final climax, we have loads of shipping drama and nods for the eventual canonicity of Starco.
I think it would have made more sense to destroy the magic if the tainted unicorn was causing the Solarian Warriors to be unstoppable and there was nothing they could do because their own magic stopped working properly and was slowly corrupting them as well. It would have made more sense to make that big of a call instead of Star saying, "My temper tantrum was right" and also brought the magic being tainted full circle in the story arc.
apparetnly tom can still travel through the different worlds (underworld and earth/mewni) even after teh magic is gone? which means his magic is spereate than the magic on mewni (which was supposed to be the magic in the universe (maybe idfferent multiverses have diff magic but they never said anything ablout that). but if that was how it was, it didn't make sense how he couldn't travel back to the underworld when heckapoo shut down all teh portals. its not supposed to eb the same magic, yet he can't portal.
Tell me your actually gonna do Miss Heinous/Meteora's Video Essay before the 10th anniversary?
honestly part of the reason i never finished the show was mina suddenly being unstoppable like??????? i hardly ever thought of her and SHE was the last big bad??????? AND THEY DIDNT JUST USE THE SPEEL WITH NO NAME OR BLACK VELVET INFERNO TO KILL HER????? outrageous. the other part was the shipping wars i thought it was so stupid and ima be real; thought star and tom worked better. like the whole situation w star n marco feels like that one south park ep u talked about where they changed the flag, i feel like if they just kissed earlier on they woulda got it outta their systems n moved on idk im gonna go get pudding
It's sad that they make the end like this, I still hope for some form of continuation like next season, movie or spin off, but SVTFOE really deserved a better ending. In my opinion they could make this much better than this. I'm just happy a little because of Star and Marco, at least they had ,, happy ending '' but it wasn't soon enough, they should be couple in season 3 finale