I'm watching out of order but I'm attempting to binge the whole channel at split second. Those sleeves are legit my whole lgs loves them and they are a hit!
Maybe I am wrong but in game 3 why Stephen didn't activate thrasios ability? It's costs 4 colorless even if the blood moon is on the battlefield. At least he may did something or did he waiting having 1 mana for Fierce Guardianship( sphere was on the field)?
Game one, I wonder why Stephen didn't counter the removal on aven mind-censor with his hermit in response to the treasure generation? Magda had an urza's saga about to pop, and would gain 6 treasures, which is all she needed to tutor up the combo.
I'm gonna need a Judge at 23:05 cause the Gitrog draw trigger from channeling boseiju causes him to draw a card when the library is empty. Sure you discarded the titan, but i'm going to say that was after the missed trigger so... I am the real winner of this game. XD Great job Higher!
for the people not getting with Adam (and then Noah) didn't block the Dwarven Grunt in game 3. we knew Gardner had a Galvanic Blast in hand so I'm guessing he wanted Adam to block with Drannith so he could kill it with that Galvanic Blast (notice Gardner also attacks with the 1/1 spirit) I'm also assuming Adam knew or figured Gardner had something up his sleeve and didn't block (which imo was the correct play) Magus then entered and made all non basic mountains making the Grunt unblockeable 😀
lots of people saying about the second green mana, but actualy he can loop into infinite Green too with Lotus petal so, he misplayed, but it doesn't change the results glad to see you back guys!!
It felt like the narrator was too excited about everything so I didn’t know what to be excited about. Like the narrator had the same, very excited for voice for Ishai getting a trigger, someone ending their turn, or a game winning thoracle play
Um actually... the Gitrog Monster is the objectively worse target for demonic consultation... should have been "Abandon Hope" hehehe Also that magda deck is sick!
well since all of the attacks went in Adam's way and considering Gardner had a Galvanic Blast in hand, I'm thinking Gardner wanted Adam to block with Drannith so he could kill it with Galvanic Blast. I'm guessing Adam knew Gardner had some kind of trick up his sleeve and didn't block (which imo was the correct play here)
That Magda win-con confuses me, using Memory Jar means each other player draws 7 cards at a time until they deck themselves right? Doesn’t this mean they could hit free interaction that could affect the game? Or even a split-second spell? Thanks for any clarification… I am probably missing something!
Magna isn't recasting any spells so the free counters don't work. I think it basically relies on hoping your opponents don't draw force of vigor + green card in a 7 and less people are playing mogg salavage nowadays. I do agree that the wincon doesnt seem super deterministic
Wait, isn’t there a Magus of the Moon? Where did Noah the 2nd green mana for the finale from? He has no basic and Boreal Druid only produces colourless
i wonder why ishai didnt hardcore focus magda seeing they had no removal in hand in game one.. if people dont start taking this deck seriously then madga wins will become pretty boring to watch really fast
@@KingCWaffa im not mad about magda winning a lot, but for example i clearly tend to prioritize ouphe effect if i play them and kinda shift my playstyle a bit around it. not to say to ignore the rest of the table that would be foolish but its hard to interact with once it starts rolling and i cant start to play mogg salvage on default just because of one deck in the meta (even if my meta consists of 4 people irl and that means magda happens a lot). i think thats what people shouldve realized by now, if fiddlebender was played more people would adapt too.
@@KingCWaffa i get a feeling people acknowledged winota faster and while she had sucess in tournaments it was not that (deserved) medial hype that magda got. whenever i play a deck that has the option to go beats in whatever small degree i even go for the ad naus necessary when there is one deck most of my interaction cant target.
I've always wondered, but with the prevelance of the thoracle win combo being off of a triggered ability, and the use of a lot of legendary creatures, and commanders as combo pieces in CEDH, Why do i never see Tale's End used in deck lists that have blue, or run a reasonable number of counterspells? It stops Thoracle Win lines, and pretty much any other win line that relies of activated or triggered abilities, like Kiki-Jiki, and it counters Planswalkers and Commanders at worst for two mana, or one blue mana at instant speed if you have a cost reducer. So what makes Tale's End a not CEDH Staple?
More concise answers to thoracle that fall into this category are Angel's grace and trickbind since they cant be responded to. However these cards are extremely narrow. It's important to note cards in 4 instances of the game known as the quadrant theory. There are 4 places in a game, when developing, ahead, at parity, and behind. When you're developing tale's end is super narrow and doesnt halpe. When you're ahead, you would rather have a card that pushes towards winning. When you're a parity, countering a commander may help sometimes. And when you're behind, using counterspells to try to police is not great. Basically considering these 4 states can help determine the usefulness of cards in the meta
Another factor is that counterspells are already pretty tight in commander, why not just run the better 1 mana counters or use the 2 mana counters that are less narrow/put you farther ahead
Most people play dress down for this reason. Dress down is much less narrow and can stop a lot of creature combos, not just thoracle. It also cantrips so there is that as well. As to why not tales end, it’s just too narrow for what it does, and usually just turns into “counter target commander” which can be good, but doesn’t justify a slot in most decks.
Gitrog monster combo might look cool when you hear it narrated like that, but I am sure irl it takes 20 minutes to explain the whole process like ur some kind of yu gi oh protagonist
In game 2, does anyone understand running Tevesh into a serra ascendant? I guess there could have been political backstabbing or something here, but...
is winning and edh game with thassa's oracle even fun? whether or not its supposed to be cedh, not playing your commander or creatures, and just playing mana ramp, takes a different kind of individual
Magus of the moon makes dwarves grunt unblockable, actually broken combo
That's like one of the least broken things she does though lol
Rules Committee better keep an eye out on Dwarven Grunt, the card is absurdly pushed
@@Master_Spliff oke jasper
I love that wincon for magda, so cool and smart.
I'd rather use altar of the brood, it's faster 😂
@@lucaswalker824 but it is more "certain" to win if you exile their cards. No shuffle titans etc.
I am waiting for the time when Stifle enters the meta. At that point, letting your opponents draw their decks might go horribly wrong.
TH-cam app showing the top comment on screen as you click the video instantly spoiling the game 👍👍👍👍
@@ecclesiaandune687 there was several games and that was just one.
In my opinion, the proper card to declare with consultation is”weakness” so you can smugly declare “my deck has no weakness”
I'm gonna use this
I had the realisation that with SNC you can tell your opponents to sleep with the fishes for when you're thoracling
Me: *seeing the time of the video, seeing that there are two stax-y decks at the table* Oh this is gonna be a long one gang.
And then it was only short ones
I saw magda and was like “no it’s not” magda is too fast and too furious.
I love Alela and was hoping to see it do Alela things...then shurg...thoracle win.
@@djjmandos It do be like that in cEDH
@@CosmicGiggalo Sometimes it be like that. When I play it , I'm like glad I got that win. When I watch games, I'm like, I wish this was more grindy.
I'm watching out of order but I'm attempting to binge the whole channel at split second. Those sleeves are legit my whole lgs loves them and they are a hit!
Glad you like them!
Awesome games! So glad to see more content again, we appreciate all the work you all put into this channel!
I literally visited the channel yesterday and thought I wonder where they went. Welcome back!
Can someone explain why at 6:20, Magda searches for LED? Would they not need it if they already have infinite treasures thus infinite mana?
Discard his hand and shuffle it, so he doesn't exile them to memory jar and thus mill himself
Maybe I am wrong but in game 3 why Stephen didn't activate thrasios ability? It's costs 4 colorless even if the blood moon is on the battlefield. At least he may did something or did he waiting having 1 mana for Fierce Guardianship( sphere was on the field)?
Let's go happy to see y'all back! :)
Game one, I wonder why Stephen didn't counter the removal on aven mind-censor with his hermit in response to the treasure generation? Magda had an urza's saga about to pop, and would gain 6 treasures, which is all she needed to tutor up the combo.
Was missing y'all's content, glad to see it again!
Quickest grave troll search I have seen in a while he didn't even have to shuffle. Good game with great pilots.
I'm gonna need a Judge at 23:05 cause the Gitrog draw trigger from channeling boseiju causes him to draw a card when the library is empty. Sure you discarded the titan, but i'm going to say that was after the missed trigger so... I am the real winner of this game. XD Great job Higher!
That does trigger Gitrog draw ability so Noah would have lost unless he was able to discard Ulamog at instant speed.
That’s funky he did lose because of that
@@letsflyfun He had an activated ability that only had the cost "Discard a card". He could discard at instant speed.
I love these longer videos! More games, more gameplay!
for the people not getting with Adam (and then Noah) didn't block the Dwarven Grunt in game 3.
we knew Gardner had a Galvanic Blast in hand so I'm guessing he wanted Adam to block with Drannith so he could kill it with that Galvanic Blast (notice Gardner also attacks with the 1/1 spirit) I'm also assuming Adam knew or figured Gardner had something up his sleeve and didn't block (which imo was the correct play)
Magus then entered and made all non basic mountains making the Grunt unblockeable 😀
lots of people saying about the second green mana, but actualy he can loop into infinite Green too with Lotus petal
so, he misplayed, but it doesn't change the results
glad to see you back guys!!
Alex’s tone in the beginning of the game sounds like he stayed up all night, slammed four energy drinks, THEN chose to narrate the video.
In game 3 at 17:10 how could Noah float a colorless when at that time it was a mountain?
It is because he can not generate Red mana due to playing Gitrog, so it can only make colorless.
@@shimo8350 commander hasn't worked that way for several years now
Forgetting there is a magus of the moon in play. Whoopsies.
Maskwood nexus is my all star in magda too, of course not cheesy with the winter orb and clock of omens combo lol but its still fast
Why Adam didn't countered crown of Oblivion at the last game? He had an dovin's veto from thrasius trigger
It felt like the narrator was too excited about everything so I didn’t know what to be excited about. Like the narrator had the same, very excited for voice for Ishai getting a trigger, someone ending their turn, or a game winning thoracle play
Any idea where we could get the playmat like Adam's? Love that art style!
That Magda deck is awesome
LETS GO ITS SHOWTIME BABY
Um actually... the Gitrog Monster is the objectively worse target for demonic consultation... should have been "Abandon Hope" hehehe
Also that magda deck is sick!
It should have been " You are already dead"
@@enricus2479 oooh good one haha
Higher vids are the best
69,420 is always the right number! Good stuff.
Where were you? Happy to see you back
Life commitments and other obligations. Glad to be back.
The narration of this video was very good, and the games were super fun!
I love how the gameplan is to win with laboratory maniac, when it's not in the deck 👍
Ok that first game was super interesting and creative.
In Game 3, why didn't anyone block the Dwarven Grunt before the Blood Moon came down?
well since all of the attacks went in Adam's way and considering Gardner had a Galvanic Blast in hand, I'm thinking Gardner wanted Adam to block with Drannith so he could kill it with Galvanic Blast. I'm guessing Adam knew Gardner had some kind of trick up his sleeve and didn't block (which imo was the correct play here)
@@cristianprado8559 Ah, that makes sense. Thank you very much!
I like these games where it's not four people with some mix of Thrasios or Tymna or Malcom combo
The crack is back.
why does Noah not block the dwarves that keep attacking him?
That Magda win-con confuses me, using Memory Jar means each other player draws 7 cards at a time until they deck themselves right?
Doesn’t this mean they could hit free interaction that could affect the game? Or even a split-second spell?
Thanks for any clarification… I am probably missing something!
Magna isn't recasting any spells so the free counters don't work. I think it basically relies on hoping your opponents don't draw force of vigor + green card in a 7 and less people are playing mogg salavage nowadays. I do agree that the wincon doesnt seem super deterministic
@@Zarcrath None of those matter, since Magda can respond to them to keep the loops going on top of the interaction on the stack.
I think Alex would be perfect for narrating a murder mystery
Wait, isn’t there a Magus of the Moon? Where did Noah the 2nd green mana for the finale from? He has no basic and Boreal Druid only produces colourless
Playing with misplays
he had two basic forests one of them was a snow covered forest the other was from Unsanctioned
It’s mentioned in the video at 17:18: he exiles Prismatic Vista with Deathrite Shaman to add a green.
i wonder why ishai didnt hardcore focus magda seeing they had no removal in hand in game one.. if people dont start taking this deck seriously then madga wins will become pretty boring to watch really fast
Seriously, it feels like every magda game, they play a turn one dwarf, aren't interacted with, and win on turn 4
@@KingCWaffa im not mad about magda winning a lot, but for example i clearly tend to prioritize ouphe effect if i play them and kinda shift my playstyle a bit around it. not to say to ignore the rest of the table that would be foolish but its hard to interact with once it starts rolling and i cant start to play mogg salvage on default just because of one deck in the meta (even if my meta consists of 4 people irl and that means magda happens a lot). i think thats what people shouldve realized by now, if fiddlebender was played more people would adapt too.
@@trveheimer6360 Oh absolutely, not meaning to complain at all with that, just affirming your assertion
@@KingCWaffa i get a feeling people acknowledged winota faster and while she had sucess in tournaments it was not that (deserved) medial hype that magda got. whenever i play a deck that has the option to go beats in whatever small degree i even go for the ad naus necessary when there is one deck most of my interaction cant target.
I've always wondered, but with the prevelance of the thoracle win combo being off of a triggered ability, and the use of a lot of legendary creatures, and commanders as combo pieces in CEDH, Why do i never see Tale's End used in deck lists that have blue, or run a reasonable number of counterspells? It stops Thoracle Win lines, and pretty much any other win line that relies of activated or triggered abilities, like Kiki-Jiki, and it counters Planswalkers and Commanders at worst for two mana, or one blue mana at instant speed if you have a cost reducer. So what makes Tale's End a not CEDH Staple?
Idk. It is a good card. Hopefully someone who knows alot about cedh can tell us cause I have no clue lol.
Even stifle doesn't see play
More concise answers to thoracle that fall into this category are Angel's grace and trickbind since they cant be responded to. However these cards are extremely narrow. It's important to note cards in 4 instances of the game known as the quadrant theory. There are 4 places in a game, when developing, ahead, at parity, and behind. When you're developing tale's end is super narrow and doesnt halpe. When you're ahead, you would rather have a card that pushes towards winning. When you're a parity, countering a commander may help sometimes. And when you're behind, using counterspells to try to police is not great. Basically considering these 4 states can help determine the usefulness of cards in the meta
Another factor is that counterspells are already pretty tight in commander, why not just run the better 1 mana counters or use the 2 mana counters that are less narrow/put you farther ahead
Most people play dress down for this reason. Dress down is much less narrow and can stop a lot of creature combos, not just thoracle. It also cantrips so there is that as well. As to why not tales end, it’s just too narrow for what it does, and usually just turns into “counter target commander” which can be good, but doesn’t justify a slot in most decks.
Gitrog monster combo might look cool when you hear it narrated like that, but I am sure irl it takes 20 minutes to explain the whole process like ur some kind of yu gi oh protagonist
It should only take a few minutes max to run through once you're familiar with the deck :)
I stand corrected then:)
Why aren’t you guys blocking the dwarves???
Dwarven Grunt has mountainwalk and Magus of the Moon makes non basiclands mountains
Mountainwalk is on thanks to Blood Moon
In game 2, does anyone understand running Tevesh into a serra ascendant? I guess there could have been political backstabbing or something here, but...
Finally new video!
Love hearing Alex narrate! He gets better every time!
Do you guys have a play mat?
Stay tuned...
what is tashas laughter for? does it combo with something
It can randomly strip all the win cons out of some opponents libraries
I'm not even in the game and I got tired of listening to the Gitrog combo... 😅
Multiple games? Let's go o/
is winning and edh game with thassa's oracle even fun? whether or not its supposed to be cedh, not playing your commander or creatures, and just playing mana ramp, takes a different kind of individual
Can Magda win without clock?
Glad to see tashas laugh in a deck as it's so good
weres ryan
Frog! Frog! Frog! Frog!
As a non native speaker, i try to follow fitrog combos for....2 cards and then i just hear words with no meaning
Lame oracle win as always…
But that first round Magda win was pretty cool. :D
Been a while.
I wish I had Adam's playmat
Been a while
22:00 😬 It's a little too much... Just an oppinion.
Read Magus of the moon, please
dude , you your voice sounds like Jason Mantzoukas
It annoys me to no end that Noah used Frog in Alela.
Wierd, a cedh game that went past turn 3 🤔 everyone I talk to says they dont....
Love me some Higher commentary!
eh-vycin she’s canadian now!
I need more high power Go Shintai!
no one need sgo shintai go commit toaster bath
I'm so confused by the tangle wire search in the last game.
Aven Mind Censor kept him from searching up any relevant answer but he was trying to clutch something relevant out of the top 4
i just cant do this narrator. its not a baseball game....
But I thought Magda wasn't good anymore....
Oh god, please not again this speaker.
Don't pee on my leg and call it CEDH, and dont act you don't know how to say Avacyn