I was looking for this kind of comment. K-netz are on a whole other level of crazy. Sending death threats to the whistle blower? Crazy sure, but not unexpected from K-netz. Heck, I'm surprised they didn't keep up the pressure until he offed himself.
Not really. Ironically the reason is in your username. Accepting the resignation would have implied they were complicit, which they probably were. Firing him allowed them "spin" that they were "victims"......
Never put the cart (prestige; winning the Nobel prize) in front of the horse (doing good science). Science is about expanding knowledge, not about prestige. Yet prestige is one heck of a drug for modern academia. Did Henry Briggs write his Arithmetica Logarithmica because he would win some trophy? Yet, his work is foundational for many algorithmic implementations in everyday use computer graphics.
I wonder what's with the stem cell field. Major stem cell scandals continued in 2014 with Haruko Obokata incident and more cases continues to harm progresses in stem cell research Or perhaps there are more scandals that is just waiting to be discovered, but never gathered enough spotlight to be uncovered.
Biology is hard. You're already working with mechanisms that may be billions of years old. And like a car company, new models and features get released regularly.
I would guess high visibility for public and money availability, that is much higher than other fields of biology, is producing much more incentives for fraud.
Oh there is much more that hasn't even been touched yet. Stuff involving forced organ "donations" in countries with funding from a major superpower. There is also the foreskin industry, which is at the heart of cosmetic stem cell research. Can't give much more detail than that, but keep an eye on those topics for the coming years
"The seeker after truth is not one who studies the writings of the ancients...and puts his trust in them, but rather the one who suspects his faith in them and questions what he gathers from them... Thus the duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and, applying his mind to the core and margins of its content, attack it from every side." - Ibn al-Haytham
15:14 I feel with science eventually the truth will come out. Someone out there will try to replicate it, or use it to build off of for their own research, and the truth will come out. I feel that the loss of prestige is worse if the truth came out that way.
Peer review with published raw data should be a requirement to have any scientific results published, and with info to enable other teams to replicate the findings.
Suggestion: A similar piece on sonofusion (bubble fusion). I believe a breakthrough was annouced by Rusi Taleyarkhan and his team at Purdue University.
Was doing something else on my main screen, saw an Asianometry video on this topic pop up and went to upvote it and realized it only had 134 likes. I was like ??? the fuck? Then I realized it was brand new lmao Thanks for posting, I really like your content!
Isn’t ignoring the parthenogenesis part like faking data for a better toaster but creating a time machine then going back to trying to improve the toaster? And yes, I got the idea from the Simpsons episode.
@@PiroKUSS it's illegal to do in public, in Germany and various other countries, if done as a Nazi salute. Kim Young-sam obviously didn't mean it to be that though
Have you ever thought about reaching out to interview one of the characters in your story who can provide a unique perspective? Might be cool, just an idea.
Less credible and filled with bias as he knows much of his audience lacks historical context, just the fact that his "angels in america" cost a super collider each year is telling. Only personal distance saved his video on a korean subject.
17:32 - It is like in the Hans Neeman case - while he couldnt explain his moves but he told that people are at fault of not understanding him because of his bad english and he is not a native speaker and he only learned english from OTHER NON-Natvie speakers at chess tournaments - nice to know this pattern :). BTW - Chess is an dexterous game but how much do you talk to your oponent before or after a game? :)
Can anybody explain to me what is the problem with paid edd acquisition? Sure, he shouldn't have lied about it, but would it still be a problem if he hadn't lied? Why did they want the eggs to be donated?
this is an ethical question. Paid organ acquisitions in general incentivize some shady organizations and trafficking. Also just like surrogacy, the donors are young and poor individuals who will often suffer complications during the rest of their lives whereas the benefactors are often rich people who can afford it.
@@PainterVierax I hope it will change one day because it is an extreme. We need a balanced approach because banning anything immediately creates black markets. We see it with simple things like software and games, and with more complex things like prostitution. When a legal market appears, many people go there because there are laws and protections. But while the ban is in place, only the black market remains, meaning no laws and protections. But, sure, creating a legal market is not an easy task. Hopefully, someday it will appear.
@@PainterVierax Yes, obviously, but it (hopefully) greatly reduces the black market. And it also creates the legal market as well -- a win-win. Sure, it doesn't matter that you stop. You keep fighting the black market while simultaneously making the legal market better and more transparent. One does not cancel the other, you can do both.
@@maxpower9708 dude, I'm just here to answer your question, not starting a debate. To end the discussion, just be aware that people can do anything for money so removing money from the equation is a solution to avoid further ethical issues (that's why I made an analogy with surrogacy legislation).
The early 2000s’ were such a crazy time. I was in college and the world is still in the post-9/11 mood. Internet, cellphone, digital camera were in full swing but without smartphone, they are an digital version of the old analog device Family was going through tough time back then but we were all together
jpn has Nobel prizes but they did almost the same thing. Ironically, the jpnese scientists wanted the fame and prize rather than advancement of science. 🤷♂️
@@blackbelt2000 *Whatever are you on about?* Japanese scientists have won 16 Nobel Prizes since the 2005-2006 Hwang Woo-suk scandal, and none of them was for "almost the same thing", _i.e.,_ human somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT) cloning-the procedure Hwang claimed to have performed. The 2012 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded to Shinya Yamanaka of Japan and Sir John B. Gurdon of England for their joint discovery of induced pluripotency in somatic cells, effectively obviating the need for nuclear transfer from somatic cells into oocytes¹. Your claim to know the motivations of any recent Nobel laureate is fatuous, and none is suspected of fraud. *Undecorated Japanese researchers* do, however, sit atop the current leaderboard at Retraction Watch, with Germans a distant second². Academic misconduct can take place anywhere a scientist experiences the extreme pressure of a career defined by the results produced and the number of papers published-even in countries with long traditions of brilliant researchers producing groundbreaking results, like the UK, the United States, Germany, and Japan. *In other places,* there exist further counterproductive pressures, from a government that measures policy success in terms of Nobel Prizes, to a homogeneous population sharing recent disappointments and unresolved grievances³. *Dr Hwang Woo-suk's* nationalist rhetoric should have been an immediate red flag that his motives were suspect and his science was impure, his pursuits adulterated and abetted by a culture with an undeserved inferiority complex⁴. _____________________ ¹ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_Nobel_laureates_and_nominees#Laureates ² retractionwatch.com/the-retraction-watch-leaderboard/ ³ "Because we are a homogenous people, we identified ourselves with this one individual and overlooked his faults" www.nytimes.com/2006/01/22/science/in-a-country-that-craved-respect-stem-cell-scientist-rode-a-wave-of.html ⁴ "Mr. Hwang is not a peculiar person. He is a portrait of us. He shows the South Korean society as it is," Ryu said. "Most people believe that if we play by the rules, we can't catch up with the advanced economies." phys.org/news/2014-10-cloning-whistle-blower-korea.html
you kinda left out why the it was such a big deal where they got the eggs from, why cant the lab workers donate their own eggs? does that somehow contaminate the science data with some bias or something?
It’s much more involved than Blood donation. And yet, even Blood donations are highly regulated. Should donors be compensated or not? Should it be entirely altruistic with the donor bearing the costs of the procedure and inconvenience? If compensated, who are more likely to want (or need) to participate, the rich or the poor? What restrictions are necessary to prevent abuse by researchers or taking advantage of poor people who would not be in a position to seek justice if something goes wrong? It’s all quite complicated.
It wasn't so much that they couldn't, but that the female junior researchers felt compelled or even threatened with losing their jobs if they didn't donate their eggs.
22:40 - "we shouldn't apply Western standards of ethics to Asian scientific efforts." What standards should we apply to Asian scientific efforts? Chinese scientific efforts?
I want to know if other cultures think that it's MORALLY wrong to use stem cells .... I never understood the concern but i do repect my neighbors concern 👍
I am British living in Ireland. In the case given in this video essay I only find it bad that young women were pressured into donating. This is both a sexual harassment issue and a workplace harassment offence. I personally see no problem whatsoever with using human eggs - only with forcible acquisition. However in Ireland which unwittingly slaves under the yoke of a regressive fantasy cult - The church of Rome - there is incredible 'twitchiness' on anything to do with maternity and fetal tissue. It reaches hysterical proportions in a flash and the government is happy to be pushed along by such waves of sentiment. Indeed its members are almost entirely of the same persuasion. So for Ireland you could say that the bulk of the population (majority is rural, ageing and in any case almost exclusively schooled through a religious leaning syllabus) anything to do with cell technology is regarded with aversion. My understanding is that extreme protestantism effects the same condemnation . Hope this answers you at least in part. 🇬🇧🇨🇮
@@josedorsaith5261I see people get in a fuss about the fetus method but I never see anyone mention the use of foreskin for it. Hell I thought that was just something the cosmetic industry does, which honestly makes way less sense than using them for stem cell research.
@@Calvin_Coolage If you Google "buy foreskin" look what comes up. They're listed on lab supply sites, based on the race they came from and the stem cell line they provide. Cosmetic industry buys them to use the stem cells from them
These are all EXCELLENT rabbit holes for me to dive into today --- Foreskin Wholesalers LLC 🔥 --- Why do uber religious peeps OBSESS over what their neighbors are doing in the bedroom 🤣 Got it - will return tomorrow for more discussion 👍👍🔥🔥
Bias and jealousy towards the West like it's some kind of monolith is common around people from nations who have, through colonialism and other past historical transgressions, didn't get to develop to the same level technologically as the people they want to put themselves against. There is a lot of chest beating by Asian nations about how they can be better than the "West" if only it weren't for the darned (insert out-group). Yet as I have hinted, the "West" isn't a monolith. European and American nations have disagreements with one another, but the main thing they seem to have figured out sooner is that collaboration, even if reluctant, works out much better for everyone than antagonism.
The US would not let the science progress. I even think Theranos is legit, these people just crossed the line. As well as cold fusion. Keep ordinary people working hard, don't let them get bored.
I didnt know about the korean hunta - i thought the south koreans are COMPLETELY politically okey :) but now (2:55) i know what they represent :) Hail!
Just posting here to say that Shadow is a great name for scientist. I never came across this name as a native German though which makes it even more exciting.
This video is very telling about the state of mankind. 2 Timothy 3:7 (KJV) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. You talk so much about nationalist pride. Proverbs 16:18 (KJV) Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
![[PD note] The rise and fall of the cloning king, Dr. Hwang. (MBC 051215)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q11HsCttGR4/mqdefault.jpg)
BobbyBroccoli did a recent 2 part documentary on this guy which is extremely good.
agreed
Indeed, Bobby broccoli does amazing videos. I just rewatched a series about the Texas super Collider
@@NathanaelNewtonHonestly Schön scandal and the collider are way way drawn out. Hwang video did not have as much filler and needless setup.
Meanwhile Netflix launched/is launching a movie that seeks to paint the guy as a misunderstood genius, apparently.
@@Mkoivuka Netflix's audience is people who can't figure out how to cancel their subscription, so it makes sense.
Apparently Korean stan culture even extends to stem cell researchers
I was looking for this kind of comment. K-netz are on a whole other level of crazy. Sending death threats to the whistle blower? Crazy sure, but not unexpected from K-netz. Heck, I'm surprised they didn't keep up the pressure until he offed himself.
It's kinda funny that the University wouldn't accept his resignation but then fire him two months later.
Not really. Ironically the reason is in your username. Accepting the resignation would have implied they were complicit, which they probably were. Firing him allowed them "spin" that they were "victims"......
@@joesmith7925it is both hilarious and cringe.
Idk how it is in Korea but in Japan, you may still be able to get severance pay if you resign but if you are fired for misconduct, you would not.
@@uchikoshi-TL That was likely a factor, too
@@uchikoshi-TL exactly
Never put the cart (prestige; winning the Nobel prize) in front of the horse (doing good science). Science is about expanding knowledge, not about prestige. Yet prestige is one heck of a drug for modern academia. Did Henry Briggs write his Arithmetica Logarithmica because he would win some trophy? Yet, his work is foundational for many algorithmic implementations in everyday use computer graphics.
Reminds me of Theranos. Putting the cart in front of an imaginary horse
You really gave an example on anyone other than Khwarizmi for excellence in Algorithms😡
@@Hindu_Shahi science and math is not about bragging rights
@@yayayayya4731 who said it was
After the recent LK-99 superconductor hype, I was reminded of this video
no
I wonder what's with the stem cell field. Major stem cell scandals continued in 2014 with Haruko Obokata incident and more cases continues to harm progresses in stem cell research
Or perhaps there are more scandals that is just waiting to be discovered, but never gathered enough spotlight to be uncovered.
Biology is hard. You're already working with mechanisms that may be billions of years old. And like a car company, new models and features get released regularly.
@@michaelmoorrees3585 That is not a justification to fake data and commit fraud.
@@mightymitochondria6913it’s not a justification. It’s what causes these frauds.
I would guess high visibility for public and money availability, that is much higher than other fields of biology, is producing much more incentives for fraud.
Oh there is much more that hasn't even been touched yet. Stuff involving forced organ "donations" in countries with funding from a major superpower. There is also the foreskin industry, which is at the heart of cosmetic stem cell research.
Can't give much more detail than that, but keep an eye on those topics for the coming years
500k passed.
Congrats and thanks for doing what you're doing.
Only losers believe such things matter.
"The seeker after truth is not one who studies the writings of the ancients...and puts his trust in them, but rather the one who suspects his faith in them and questions what he gathers from them... Thus the duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and, applying his mind to the core and margins of its content, attack it from every side." - Ibn al-Haytham
Me in a nuttshell.
28:50 How sad is it that he actually may have triggered asexual human reproduction but this feat was glossed over due to his previous lies.
29:53 Man's doing the DiCaprio walk out of court after beating the case
15:14 I feel with science eventually the truth will come out. Someone out there will try to replicate it, or use it to build off of for their own research, and the truth will come out.
I feel that the loss of prestige is worse if the truth came out that way.
Tell that to the talidomide babies, or to the relatives of the 750,000 opioid crisis dead caused by the Sacklers.
Best wishes.
Peer review with published raw data should be a requirement to have any scientific results published, and with info to enable other teams to replicate the findings.
We really need a lot more replication of findings especially with big breakthroughs.
Yep, this really tells a lot about the bad practices of even the most reputable scientific journals.
Unfortunately Mainstream Science has also been corrupted by politics.
no
19:10 "he had recruited a few egg-xperts"
...get out.
Suggestion: A similar piece on sonofusion (bubble fusion). I believe a breakthrough was annouced by Rusi Taleyarkhan and his team at Purdue University.
Was doing something else on my main screen, saw an Asianometry video on this topic pop up and went to upvote it and realized it only had 134 likes. I was like ??? the fuck? Then I realized it was brand new lmao
Thanks for posting, I really like your content!
As always a brilliant exposition.
I am watching this channel for long time my experience so far has been awesome support you bro keep up the high quality videos running ❤❤❤❤
3:23 I deeply appreciate the _Far Side_ reference.
love your work!
Isn’t ignoring the parthenogenesis part like faking data for a better toaster but creating a time machine then going back to trying to improve the toaster? And yes, I got the idea from the Simpsons episode.
Great video. Always enjoy bio science videos. Please do more
6:10 Glad you also find this frog to look cool, fellow frog enthusiast!
2:53 homie making the forbidden hail of mid century Germany
forbidden by who
@@PiroKUSS it's illegal to do in public, in Germany and various other countries, if done as a Nazi salute. Kim Young-sam obviously didn't mean it to be that though
Lot of similarities between the '80s ROK government and '30s Germany so maybe it was subconsciously...😉
Fascinating story, thanks.
gotta love good investigative journalism, and fear of repercussions for telling the truth has been a big factor in scandals everywhere
Have you ever thought about reaching out to interview one of the characters in your story who can provide a unique perspective? Might be cool, just an idea.
Dr. Asianometry is the best researcher in the world. Now if we can just get him married.
Hey, you keep mentioning this Asian financial crisis. Could you elaborate on that one in an episode ?
They called him "No Wrong Hwang"
Recently found this channel. WOW, truth! Thank you so very much 🙏 Blessings 🙏
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Watched BobbyBrocolli's videos some time ago. Thought I'd see your shorter take on it.
Bobby broccoli also did one on him
How to catch a criminal cloner
Less credible and filled with bias as he knows much of his audience lacks historical context, just the fact that his "angels in america" cost a super collider each year is telling. Only personal distance saved his video on a korean subject.
don't think you are more credible than him but sure continue to discredit him you melon
The fall of hung sack
lol
and he was right... it WAS a cool looking frog.
Dr Woo-suk
I am reminded of Loke Groundrunner and his adoptive parents Soondead and aunt Gonnabiteit
17:32 - It is like in the Hans Neeman case - while he couldnt explain his moves but he told that people are at fault of not understanding him because of his bad english and he is not a native speaker and he only learned english from OTHER NON-Natvie speakers at chess tournaments - nice to know this pattern :). BTW - Chess is an dexterous game but how much do you talk to your oponent before or after a game? :)
Obsessed...
Dr. Hwang Suks
Love the news letter, better than work email and spam 👍👍
This is a great tale of lies and deceit. Thanks.
What would be really helpful would be to clone specific human organs.
If your kidney is failing, you could have a healthy one (your own) transplanted.
I can't help but hear Dr. Huan Uwu Succ whenever his name is mentioned
Please tell me there is a drama for this?
3:01 What is bro doing with his hand?
Egg-cell-ent !!!
well, if they are agreeing to donate them it's technically voluntary
Oooh I love a good drama😊
"I love Huang Woo suck club"
A bit unfortunate name, to the point that I'm not sure if it's a joke, or the actual name...
Can anybody explain to me what is the problem with paid edd acquisition? Sure, he shouldn't have lied about it, but would it still be a problem if he hadn't lied? Why did they want the eggs to be donated?
this is an ethical question. Paid organ acquisitions in general incentivize some shady organizations and trafficking. Also just like surrogacy, the donors are young and poor individuals who will often suffer complications during the rest of their lives whereas the benefactors are often rich people who can afford it.
@@PainterVierax I hope it will change one day because it is an extreme. We need a balanced approach because banning anything immediately creates black markets. We see it with simple things like software and games, and with more complex things like prostitution. When a legal market appears, many people go there because there are laws and protections. But while the ban is in place, only the black market remains, meaning no laws and protections. But, sure, creating a legal market is not an easy task. Hopefully, someday it will appear.
@@maxpower9708 The fact it becomes a legal market doesn't remove the black market. It just pushes the problem away.
@@PainterVierax Yes, obviously, but it (hopefully) greatly reduces the black market. And it also creates the legal market as well -- a win-win. Sure, it doesn't matter that you stop. You keep fighting the black market while simultaneously making the legal market better and more transparent. One does not cancel the other, you can do both.
@@maxpower9708 dude, I'm just here to answer your question, not starting a debate.
To end the discussion, just be aware that people can do anything for money so removing money from the equation is a solution to avoid further ethical issues (that's why I made an analogy with surrogacy legislation).
The early 2000s’ were such a crazy time. I was in college and the world is still in the post-9/11 mood. Internet, cellphone, digital camera were in full swing but without smartphone, they are an digital version of the old analog device
Family was going through tough time back then but we were all together
some similarities on LK-99.. right? no proper papers but patent first
9 months, cow or Countess
Holy smokes, this really is the fucked timeline...
Farmer happy being a farmer
Science should be purely for self satisfaction. Not for prizes or promotion in job. Prizes, grants and promotions are the side reactions.
I watched a 1 hour long video on this. Sorry but I can't rewatch the same. Great topic nonetheless.
Snooppy dog?
Thanks to netflix for the idea
Who could have thought that pride and ultra-nationalism are bad influence.
I always wondered why Korea never got any nobel prize in stem and economics
jpn has Nobel prizes but they did almost the same thing. Ironically, the jpnese scientists wanted the fame and prize rather than advancement of science. 🤷♂️
@@blackbelt2000
*Whatever are you on about?* Japanese scientists have won 16 Nobel Prizes since the 2005-2006 Hwang Woo-suk scandal, and none of them was for "almost the same thing", _i.e.,_ human somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT) cloning-the procedure Hwang claimed to have performed. The 2012 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded to Shinya Yamanaka of Japan and Sir John B. Gurdon of England for their joint discovery of induced pluripotency in somatic cells, effectively obviating the need for nuclear transfer from somatic cells into oocytes¹. Your claim to know the motivations of any recent Nobel laureate is fatuous, and none is suspected of fraud.
*Undecorated Japanese researchers* do, however, sit atop the current leaderboard at Retraction Watch, with Germans a distant second². Academic misconduct can take place anywhere a scientist experiences the extreme pressure of a career defined by the results produced and the number of papers published-even in countries with long traditions of brilliant researchers producing groundbreaking results, like the UK, the United States, Germany, and Japan.
*In other places,* there exist further counterproductive pressures, from a government that measures policy success in terms of Nobel Prizes, to a homogeneous population sharing recent disappointments and unresolved grievances³.
*Dr Hwang Woo-suk's* nationalist rhetoric should have been an immediate red flag that his motives were suspect and his science was impure, his pursuits adulterated and abetted by a culture with an undeserved inferiority complex⁴.
_____________________
¹ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_Nobel_laureates_and_nominees#Laureates
² retractionwatch.com/the-retraction-watch-leaderboard/
³ "Because we are a homogenous people, we identified ourselves with this one individual and overlooked his faults"
www.nytimes.com/2006/01/22/science/in-a-country-that-craved-respect-stem-cell-scientist-rode-a-wave-of.html
⁴ "Mr. Hwang is not a peculiar person. He is a portrait of us. He shows the South Korean society as it is," Ryu said. "Most people believe that if we play by the rules, we can't catch up with the advanced economies."
phys.org/news/2014-10-cloning-whistle-blower-korea.html
Cow Tools, heh
lying is bad guys
Im not surprised.
Koreans frequently rig the sport matches to win.
Korea, both north and south, is the best case Cold War outcome, depending only on your perspective.
you kinda left out why the it was such a big deal where they got the eggs from, why cant the lab workers donate their own eggs? does that somehow contaminate the science data with some bias or something?
It’s much more involved than Blood donation. And yet, even Blood donations are highly regulated. Should donors be compensated or not? Should it be entirely altruistic with the donor bearing the costs of the procedure and inconvenience? If compensated, who are more likely to want (or need) to participate, the rich or the poor? What restrictions are necessary to prevent abuse by researchers or taking advantage of poor people who would not be in a position to seek justice if something goes wrong? It’s all quite complicated.
It wasn't so much that they couldn't, but that the female junior researchers felt compelled or even threatened with losing their jobs if they didn't donate their eggs.
it just gives the impression of coercion by those in power from those who work for them.
28:50 You mean "parthenogenesis" not "pathogenesis". Pathogenesis means the origin and process of a disease.
22:40 - "we shouldn't apply Western standards of ethics to Asian scientific efforts." What standards should we apply to Asian scientific efforts? Chinese scientific efforts?
I want to know if other cultures think that it's MORALLY wrong to use stem cells .... I never understood the concern but i do repect my neighbors concern 👍
The concern comes from how the stem cells are acquired. The majority of stem cell lines come from aborted foetuses & infant circumcisions
I am British living in Ireland. In the case given in this video essay I only find it bad that young women were pressured into donating. This is both a sexual harassment issue and a workplace harassment offence.
I personally see no problem whatsoever with using human eggs - only with forcible acquisition.
However in Ireland which unwittingly slaves under the yoke of a regressive fantasy cult - The church of Rome - there is incredible 'twitchiness' on anything to do with maternity and fetal tissue. It reaches hysterical proportions in a flash and the government is happy to be pushed along by such waves of sentiment. Indeed its members are almost entirely of the same persuasion.
So for Ireland you could say that the bulk of the population (majority is rural, ageing and in any case almost exclusively schooled through a religious leaning syllabus) anything to do with cell technology is regarded with aversion. My understanding is that extreme protestantism effects the same condemnation .
Hope this answers you at least in part. 🇬🇧🇨🇮
@@josedorsaith5261I see people get in a fuss about the fetus method but I never see anyone mention the use of foreskin for it. Hell I thought that was just something the cosmetic industry does, which honestly makes way less sense than using them for stem cell research.
@@Calvin_Coolage
If you Google "buy foreskin" look what comes up. They're listed on lab supply sites, based on the race they came from and the stem cell line they provide. Cosmetic industry buys them to use the stem cells from them
These are all EXCELLENT rabbit holes for me to dive into today
--- Foreskin Wholesalers LLC 🔥
--- Why do uber religious peeps OBSESS over what their neighbors are doing in the bedroom 🤣
Got it - will return tomorrow for more discussion 👍👍🔥🔥
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Your documentary seems to show the South Korean bias and jealousy towards the West at their own peril.
Bias and jealousy towards the West like it's some kind of monolith is common around people from nations who have, through colonialism and other past historical transgressions, didn't get to develop to the same level technologically as the people they want to put themselves against. There is a lot of chest beating by Asian nations about how they can be better than the "West" if only it weren't for the darned (insert out-group).
Yet as I have hinted, the "West" isn't a monolith. European and American nations have disagreements with one another, but the main thing they seem to have figured out sooner is that collaboration, even if reluctant, works out much better for everyone than antagonism.
It's more to do with nationalistic feelings, victim mentality and intolerance of criticisms.
I gotta say, bobbybroccoli beat you to it jon
You can't go wrong with wong?
The US would not let the science progress.
I even think Theranos is legit, these people just crossed the line.
As well as cold fusion.
Keep ordinary people working hard, don't let them get bored.
What?
So interesting to see the views of 'western ethics' by the East. The rest Of the world does not share our sensibilities, but we assume they do.
I didnt know about the korean hunta - i thought the south koreans are COMPLETELY politically okey :) but now (2:55) i know what they represent :) Hail!
AI+IQ=AQ Articicial Quackery 😥
Believe it or not , this ethical violations happen a lot more often than one knows… look up Dr.Khang Zhang of UCSD
Lol why
27:10 Nine... Eleven... Definitely faked... Interesting statement :)
Gerald Schatten asked to retraction his name on the Science paper, not the Nature paper. Stop repeating the mistake.
Just posting here to say that Shadow is a great name for scientist. I never came across this name as a native German though which makes it even more exciting.
buy a real mic and a popper man.
"cloning" of the dolly sheep was a scam just like what this guy did - the genetic test was different from the "cloned" specimen
Bobby broccoli did it first
feels like Asianometry could condense it into 32 minute video. he also probably make this video due to Netflix series
This video is very telling about the state of mankind.
2 Timothy 3:7 (KJV)
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
You talk so much about nationalist pride.
Proverbs 16:18 (KJV)
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Luckily the scientist can not play the god
well ... this suks :(
I love Broccoli