How To Make Sugar Rockets (Powder Fuel)

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  • How to make sugar rockets using the powder method 🚀 How sugar rockets work. In this video I will be showing you the easiest way to make a sugar rocket. We will also be covering how sugar rockets work and why amateur hobby rocket enthusiasts should know about the benefits of building sugar rockets.
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  • @EthanAllred1
    @EthanAllred1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    How to make a fuse video⬇️ th-cam.com/video/uVLotjV9cdY/w-d-xo.html

    • @DingDangg
      @DingDangg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Would these work in the model rockets you get at a hobby store?

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DingDangg Not right off the bat, the motor would need a parachute eject modification, and the dimension of the rockets body would not fit properly to a PVC pipe.

    • @larrysouthern5098
      @larrysouthern5098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great..

    • @coolcat2551
      @coolcat2551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EthanAllred1 Tkor made a video about these sugar rockets except he added a way to put a parachute in it

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was going to be my first question

  • @jeremyscott6641
    @jeremyscott6641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    Before I said anything my wife said stay the hell away from her blender 😂

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ha ha!

    • @rosie5s
      @rosie5s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Feels good to not be the only one 😂

    • @sugarflame1833
      @sugarflame1833 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      With no wife you don’t have that problem 😂

    • @Dosor72
      @Dosor72 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Dont tell her about the coffee grinder

    • @luttuceman
      @luttuceman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol

  • @TheBeefSlayer
    @TheBeefSlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    When I was in 2nd grade I went to my local good neighbor pharmacy and asked Rick for some potassium nitrate and he said....
    “Jeasus Christ kid! Are you building a bomb?!?”
    Then he showed me where they kept the potassium nitrate and sulfur.
    Thanks Rick the pharmacist from Wheatland Ca.
    I later joined the 82nd airborne division field artillery. I like the boom stuff.

    • @gregkral4467
      @gregkral4467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My local drug store would order whatever I wanted, potassium nitrate was on shelf, but more expensive, but the other salts like strontium nitrate et al they would just order, still have a lot of iodine crystals for other unstable stuff. We had fun with household chemicals, if ya had a drug store, grocery store, hardware store, and farm supply store, you were set for anything, the rest is make it with what you have.

    • @charlieross-BRM
      @charlieross-BRM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@gregkral4467 Not in grade 2 but for sure by grade 5 I was a real science kid. So starting about 1963/64. The drugstore wouldn't blink an eye at me picking out tins of Potassium Nitrate, Sulphur, Charcoal (for gunpowder), a nice glass hypodermic syringe (plastic ones weren't in use) off the shelves. I could also ask the pharmacist for needles, scalpels and for ether. The latter three were for my dissecting studies. Anything else I would go to the science lab shops of which there were several. My mom was a career nurse and was fine with all of this, taking me in the car to get stuff and proud to show visitors my microscope slides of tissue samples. Oh, I'm also fun at parties :).

    • @stephenr1999
      @stephenr1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@charlieross-BRM In the 50-60's in you could walk in a hardware store and buy dynamite.

    • @williamworth2746
      @williamworth2746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣

    • @TheBeefSlayer
      @TheBeefSlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charlieross-BRM nice to meet you Hannibal lecter!!!! I’m just a regular pyro.

  • @johnpattison4391
    @johnpattison4391 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I made one, I called it Diabetes 2

    • @WUDZ_780
      @WUDZ_780 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This comment deserves replies

    • @sinsofthemartyr
      @sinsofthemartyr 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      type c4

    • @TJbrix
      @TJbrix 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I named mines blue bird MK1

    • @user-eb1qb1xb5m
      @user-eb1qb1xb5m 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How would one pronounce it?

  • @EthanAllred1
    @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    *This Project Is inspired by the Late, Grant Thompson, The King of Random.* I decided to do my own spin on sugar rockets and in no way mean to discredit Grant

    • @aaronhughes827
      @aaronhughes827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I originally disliked the video for that reason, but after I saw your respectful comment I changed it to a like😸

    • @rupamkarmakar8225
      @rupamkarmakar8225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Ethan, How much ounces can this motor carry?

    • @OGMann
      @OGMann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      First, don't think Grant would have cared. Second, Grant didn't invent this method. He simply made a video illustrating it. Same as you.

    • @DedicatedSpartan
      @DedicatedSpartan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Do not feel bad, I don't like when people get angry at somebody just because the creator is not as famous, Grant got a lot of his info from DIY books, I do not discredit him either but almost everything has been done it is just a matter of source & presentation.

    • @bigguschungus995
      @bigguschungus995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nothing will stop me from making a huge one about 1 ft in height and then just prob. making a bomb bout my rocket on accident c the amount of thrust and heat would be hard to contain in pbc pipe alone

  • @fizzyplazmuh9024
    @fizzyplazmuh9024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Wonderful! I used to make these when I was a teenager but I love your surface area/burn rate examples. Very intuitive and even a third grader could comprehend what that means for acceleration.

    • @tonymcwhirter
      @tonymcwhirter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please explain, I tried ethan way, I'm in uk, used dimensions same ingredients same, but just didn't lift, just burn the tube, with plenty of smoke 😅

    • @alamabdul3592
      @alamabdul3592 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3 ounces is 85.05 g, I'm also a brit, but I just used googlr

    • @toobag
      @toobag 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can you use any type of sugar?

    • @therealBocaStudios
      @therealBocaStudios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@toobagoriginal gunpowder was used using potash nitrate (which comes from bat dung), sulfur and honey, it makes a paste and would be easier to pack, also use a cardboard tube rather than a pvc pipe, that way you don’t end up with a flying projectile when the thing goes sideways and also it illegal to launch writhin range of any building ps and within any persons under age of 18, and I thought there was a 400 ft height limit as well, so if ur gonna do an200ft launch you have to be next to a 1,600 ft hill you cannot make this in a house or store it in a bedroom and you cannot make large batches you have to make one or two at a time. I’ve never made any but I do fireworks shows from time to time and have been studying to get my explosives license.

  • @VC_27
    @VC_27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Clear, crisp and concise. Most importantly this video shows how easy it is.

  • @railgap
    @railgap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Don't ask for potassium nitrate if you're planning to manufacture pyrotechnics without a license. Ask for "stump remover" and check the label to be sure. Use sorbitol, not common sugar, to get a less brittle propellant grain. Since sorbitol burns slower, add 1% - 5% red (Fe-III) iron oxide to speed it back up.

  • @MrArcher0
    @MrArcher0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I really enjoyed your descriptions and walk thru on the make of these. Extremely well executed and concise. 5/5 ⭐️

  • @onlyme112
    @onlyme112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's really cool to see them start up and then run for a few seconds before lifting off, just like the big rockets at Cape Canaveral.

  • @zhoumarcus6978
    @zhoumarcus6978 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I am from Gaza, thank you very much.

  • @rondunnett7204
    @rondunnett7204 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent, I used to make Gunpowder Rockets when younger. Now 76 years old and still interested.

  • @murraygallagher4180
    @murraygallagher4180 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I really enjoyed your description of the surface area effecting the thrust. I'd always wondered why firework rockets start of slow. Nice explanation!

    • @brianrk1944
      @brianrk1944 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very interesting! FUN to learn some thing new. Very clear. Thank you 😊

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    outstanding, brings back memories from the 60's and growing up near Cape Canaveral...we were inspired......cheers from Orlando , Paul

  • @maniyan_wanagi
    @maniyan_wanagi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Excellent instructional video. I'll be doing this with nephews. Thank you! Hoping for that fuse video, since it wasn't covered here - I'd planned to use CVA waterproof cannon fuse, since Ive used it in fireworks (and fishing "lures") for decades.

  • @iamnegan1515
    @iamnegan1515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your paper example made perfect sense. Excellent vid.

  • @stuarthaddox2585
    @stuarthaddox2585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Some safety recommendations include ensuring no one bangs on a steel rammer with a steel hammer, and to wear leather gloves, long sleeve cotton clothing and eye protection, and never ram rocket motors indoors. Also PVC will shoot shrapnel if the motor CATOs, so you want distance after you light the fuse. All in all great video, you got really good results without having to use a spindle.

    • @spitfirefan5545
      @spitfirefan5545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what would happen if you banged the rammer with a steel hammer?

    • @alcarrington7109
      @alcarrington7109 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spitfirefan5545 you could make a spark

    • @TravisButler95
      @TravisButler95 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats CATO's?

    • @kpkndusa
      @kpkndusa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TravisButler95 Explosion.

    • @BubbaPyro99
      @BubbaPyro99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@TravisButler95 stands for "Catastrophe" or ive heard some people refer to it standing for "catastrophe at take off". It refers to a lift charge failure that often results in an unintentional explosion.

  • @richardcatalinajr.369
    @richardcatalinajr.369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Well, I've been using KNO3 since the early 1970s and combing with sugar to make smoke bombs. We would buy it in the pharmacy - it was called "saltpeter." Combine with sulfur and some ground up charcoal, and, well, you make things that go boom. Great video, well explained.

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you

    • @blackz9058
      @blackz9058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      thats the receipt of blackpowder

  • @ogboss2195
    @ogboss2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love the sound of rockets...great video 👍👌

  • @RidiculousRocketry
    @RidiculousRocketry หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been launching 3D printed rockets with Estes F motors. I'm getting ready to try sugar fuel. This is the best video I have found on the topic. Good work.

  • @trevorwhitford672
    @trevorwhitford672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was absolutely brilliant

  • @TheLeadpepper
    @TheLeadpepper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thanks Ethan.. this brings back good memories! Like many of us I use to use the same mix. I used it for for my airfix jets. They would take off after maybe 10 feet and fly 25/30ft up or down the garden before wings or tail would melt! The first time I showed my Dad I was about 10/11.. By the look in his eyes he was terrified and impressed at the same time.. .... He had no idea I was bunking school to make them..

    • @Useaname
      @Useaname 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Excellent

    • @mackmack4499
      @mackmack4499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool idea

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did the same thing with commercial model rocket engines. Apparently the F16 isn’t terribly aerodynamically stable, lol.

  • @BigBrainBrian
    @BigBrainBrian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Well presented. Especially liked the illustration of burn area via the paper representations.

    • @zzzxxzzz3248
      @zzzxxzzz3248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No fuse , you lose !

  • @stevehunt914
    @stevehunt914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That explanation was SO helpful!
    i really enjoyed this!

  • @Bitsadola
    @Bitsadola 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like the little detail of explaining why we must drill that far..
    thanks for the video

  • @fizzlepop9451
    @fizzlepop9451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Awesome.. Don't think Dad would let me use the blender for this though! 😂👍

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yeah, it's best to just get a cheap thrift store blender for some of these projects.

    • @growthoperat
      @growthoperat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Neither my mom

    • @enzoocampoiii2881
      @enzoocampoiii2881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@growthoperat i have been waiting since 4th grade that our blender would replace the blender but still working now is the time im now on 9th grade lmao just wait a couple of years

    • @lordofthechimie
      @lordofthechimie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you don't need a blender. Just use some very little water to dissolve everything and then heat the mixture until it becomes harder than play-dough. I just tried it yesterday and was very successful.

    • @user-sg2yt6nc1z
      @user-sg2yt6nc1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lordofthechimie even the bentonite??

  • @drogers5511
    @drogers5511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Good remake of the KoR video. I had some success with 3d printing a cap that goes over the nozzle end. The temporary cap has an conical extrusion that helps with focusing the thrust and providing a perfect center for the drill. It gets removed once the final packing of clay is finished. Yes, An extra step, but once you have the basics, it's fun to tweak the design bit by bit.

  • @bill1394
    @bill1394 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent explanation on the build and the burn.

  • @harolddavis6409
    @harolddavis6409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Ethan, cool stuff. I worked for a couple of years as a technician in the Propellant Development lab at Atlantic Research back in the early 80's mixing up all manner of different propellants, then transferred to Rocket Test and got to shoot a bunch of them off. I miss that stuff. So, sorry but I have to call you out on your safety gear. An accidental ignition would wreck your day and when you have the propellant mixture confined, the pressure rise in the vessel causes the burn rate to rise in a quick feedback loop that can turn into an explosion quickly. Same as gunpowder. So, when I do this for the kids, I'll be wearing safety glasses under a full face shield. For the compression process I'll build a plywood box with one open side, a hole in the top to put the bolt through, and a mount to hold the motor inside. That way if I do get a bang my hands and face are protected against flying PVC shards, which will just fly out the open side of the box. Watch out for dusting up the kno3 and sugar mixture and protect it from static. THis is gonna be *really* fun.

  • @750triton
    @750triton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, nice and concise without repetition or digression.
    One problem. It's been a year and still no fuse video

  • @BuhdaPunk
    @BuhdaPunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you tried Hydrocal "used to medical casts" I have a jig using a nail. Pour the hydrocal, dries in minutes. Use a steel rod, load fuel and then pour some Hydrocal to cap. Great video!

  • @rainbowboa100
    @rainbowboa100 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for all the info put forth in a simple way!

  • @markonefly
    @markonefly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mr. Your the one God bless you.

  • @spenserholen419
    @spenserholen419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love how you explained everything in such a straightforward manner. I wondered why you drilled all the way through, and then you read my mind and explained it perfectly. I’m subscribing, thanks!

    • @guitarista666
      @guitarista666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be hard to drill that hole and keep it straight unless it was done with a drill press.

    • @bmck5002
      @bmck5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol.
      Have you ever used a drill bud?

    • @guitarista666
      @guitarista666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bmck5002 Absolutely, Your silly response makes me think that you're one of those people who think any old slipshod job is a job well done. LOL!

    • @hankshaw2225
      @hankshaw2225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do not take me for my word, but if it was drilled all of the way through. Wouldn't you have equal thrust on each end of the rocket motor?

    • @erichvonmanstein6876
      @erichvonmanstein6876 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guitarista666 no he's right, have you ever used a drill kid?

  • @BuhdaPunk
    @BuhdaPunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For electric igniters I use a an electric burner and a throw away dollar store pan. Same mix as the rocket fuel except, keep separated. You will need 0000 steel wool and some wire leads. Solder the wire leads to each end of a small piece of steel wool little bigger that a Jasmine rice grain. Enough that when you apply 9v battery it will glow red. Melt sugar low temp "high temp may ignite the oxidizer" I use a double boiler. I liquefy the sugar slowly adding the oxidizer Potassium Nitrate KNO3 or Potassium Permanganate

  • @americathebeautiful830
    @americathebeautiful830 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this. Thank you. My son will greatly appreciate your video!

  • @godzalli44
    @godzalli44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the most comprehensive explanation

  • @steamboatwillie8517
    @steamboatwillie8517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We used to make our own bangers ( well over half a century ago now!)
    Pop to the chemist, buy saltpetre, mix with water, soak newspaper in solution. Allow to dry properly. Cut up, roll skinny tube for fuse, bigger tube for charge. Then overwrap with plenty of brown paper and sellotape. Hey presto, bangers!

  • @allentremper8243
    @allentremper8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have found that by adding a small amount of ammunition nitrate to the mix, with the right"nozzle" you will get almost 2 times the lift, a bit faster burn. It doesn't take much to achieve this effect. Also Lactose instead of sugar is a much better"fuel", and sorbitol is even better as it's melting point is very low, as is the ammonium nitrate, the potassium nitrate never really dissolves, it just mixes intimately with the melted sugar. What you are doing works well, but for that extra push, a nozzle/ head at the end of the engine will give you more lift, as will the addition of a small amount of ammonium nitrate(like 2gms for every 20gms of potassium nitrate.)
    I think if you try this method with just the added ammonium nitrate, you will see a major difference between the amount of time it takes to get up there, and how much thrust you can generate in a very short time without explosion.
    The end of these"engines" are very important, there are a lot of great vids on TH-cam to show just how much the end "nozzle", which is made of carbon fiber or graphite, and the difference between have a directed thrust that is a bit bigger than the end of the engine itself, effectively catching all the energy that escapes from the engine in an almost 180° radius to be directed tore of a 90° radius of energy all being directed towards the ground instead of the ground and all directions in the 360° radius of air under the engine, which is basically a 180° out, with the right"nozzle" you can achieve 90° thrust towards the ground, which adds up to a massive difference in the altitude achieved by the same amount of fuel and oxidiser.
    Thanks for the video, I hope you follow up with the actual chemistry involved, the difference between the added Ammonium nitrate, and the difference between a rocket engine as shown here and one with a"nozzle" that will give you almost twice the downward trust.
    Also by melting all the fuel together into rocket candy, you will not have to deal with any uncontrollable reaction after the engine is lit and burning, a packed powder will never achieve the level of power and reliability as a solid rock engine would, I have no clue what would happen if you do add ammonium nitrate and not turn the whole thing into a "rocket candy".
    Thanks for the video!!!

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The exit divergent cone of the nozzle for a rocket like this would be 12-15 degrees for optimum performance. Since these 'bottle rockets' are not for launching satellites into space, this video is a very simple and easy way to make them.

    • @CtrlAltRetreat
      @CtrlAltRetreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mojaverockets
      The useful addon here is that you can easily add in these features by simply grinding down the tip of the rammer dowel into a dome and prevent the splitting by either using a bit of pvc or tape to reinforce it a bit. It'll form the concave naturally while you're compressing the base plug. You can also add a cone between the propellant and base plug to get a venturi for even greater efficiency too

  • @thecelt4807
    @thecelt4807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great recipe and appreciate the clear explanation of circular tube surface area expansion explanation , really hit home in a simple clear way whats going on with the burn process and why thrust increases due to expanding surface area ,, cheers mate

  • @mikebrunner6845
    @mikebrunner6845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation of the "surface area" subject!

  • @sadieallred5633
    @sadieallred5633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is crazy awesome!!😜🤯
    Definitely want to try this someday😁👌🏻

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well. You know who to ask to help you:)

    • @jeffreyb8770
      @jeffreyb8770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would a *irl be interested in this? Just wondering out loud.

  • @paulmaddison2507
    @paulmaddison2507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The best explanation on TH-cam, good job and yes you made it 100% clear. Only 1 question is dry mix as good as when others melt ? Cheers

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think the biggest benefit to melting the rocket fuel is that it gives you the ability to shape your fuel. especially for larger engines where the powder is too much to compact. The melted fuel is more of a fire hazard because if the engine blows up burning pieces of rocket candy can go flying everywhere, whereas powder engines will disperse powder and go out very quickly. That being said, melted fuel engines are far less likely to explode.

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EthanAllred1 Igniting rocket motors by hand using fuses is also dangerous, you should use electronic ignition from a safe distance. Melting the propellant gives you greater density and higher Isp.

  • @slingerssecretlaboratory
    @slingerssecretlaboratory 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yeah, this is something I need to try.

  • @mikeable1267
    @mikeable1267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You explained it very clearly

  • @EthanAllred1
    @EthanAllred1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As far as the *fuse* is concerned, I have had a ton of questions concerning where I got the fuse, or how I made it, and how do I attach it to the sugar rocket. I will have a fuse video coming soon, so hang tight and I will be showing you some fuse options.

    • @brianjennings7644
      @brianjennings7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that was my lingering question, too. I have no idea how to make a dependable fuse.

    • @rlb96
      @rlb96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brianjennings7644 www.amazon.com/Green-Model-Rocketry-Diameter-10foot/dp/B07TRC9VCH/ref=asc_df_B07TRC9VCH/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459667108255&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3489288656712302808&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008533&hvtargid=pla-943330596842&psc=1

    • @brianjennings7644
      @brianjennings7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rlb96 thank you. I've had a bottle of stump remover in the shed for awhile..I now have a project! oh, and I was a Journeyman Machinist for 30+ yrs, so the construct is no biggie. heck, I worked on Minuteman II, and III prototypes. I love rockets.

    • @BuhdaPunk
      @BuhdaPunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For electric igniters I use a an electric burner and a throw away dollar store pan. Same mix as the rocket fuel except, keep separated. You will need 0000 steel wool and some wire leads. Solder the wire leads to each end of a small piece of steel wool little bigger that a Jasmine rice grain. Enough that when you apply 9v battery it will glow red. Melt sugar low temp "high temp may ignite the oxidizer" I use a double boiler. I liquefy the sugar slowly adding the oxidizer Potassium Nitrate KNO3 or Potassium Permanganate

    • @zzzxxzzz3248
      @zzzxxzzz3248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No fuse you lose

  • @lanceburger3789
    @lanceburger3789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was making 'sugar rockets' with sugar and potassium nitrate back in the early 60's using cardboard tubes from BB gun ammo . My dad always told me not to burn the house down .

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We started making sugar and ZnS rocket motors when I bought a copy of 'Rocketry Manual for Amateurs' by Brinley in 1961...I still have it.

    • @ypaulbrown
      @ypaulbrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mojaverockets outstanding

  • @johnmassey1016
    @johnmassey1016 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great video! I was using a mixture of potassium chlorate, sulphur and powdered charcoal. However, I would never ram this mixture down with a mallet. If not, it would blow up. So, the next time I make a rocket engine I'll use the potassium nitrate/sugar mixture you showed. Thanks a lot.

  • @thomshere
    @thomshere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much! I used to build rockets back when I was a kid and I happened to walk by a rocket department the other day and could not believe what kids have to pay for rocket engines now so thank you thank you thank you for this really great video!

  • @sharaleeweilacher592
    @sharaleeweilacher592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Pretty sweet!

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I'll need to show you one on person sometime.

  • @MattCantSpeakIt
    @MattCantSpeakIt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interesting fact about the hole going all the way up the fuel... In big solid rocket boosters like SLS' (almost the same boosters as the shuttle used), they can make the hole shape different than a circle. They can make it a star patter, a "+" pattern, etc. These different patterns will change how the thrust changes over time. For example, the "+" pattern reaching the edges of the booster, leaving 4 quarters of a circle of fuel will give you immense thrust at launch but will burn out VERY quickly.

  • @ChargingActive
    @ChargingActive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here after watching this vid 1 year ago, thanks for this, i finally got the chance to make these myself!

  • @skullbustergaming7b2mo33
    @skullbustergaming7b2mo33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear explanation God bless you

  • @chandlermahaffey4280
    @chandlermahaffey4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Great video but for those trying to repeat this video for themselves, keep in mind that if you live in an area with high humidity, the water in the air can get in your mixture and cause it not to ignite. In my area there is high humidity and I was forced to melt the mixture down and then place it in the PVC. Once it hardened, it worked perfectly.

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. the humidity can wet the powder. So it is best to keep ingredients in separate zip lock bags and assemble the rocket motor prior to launching it.

    • @kaikart123
      @kaikart123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So basically I am forced to melt them down if I live in the tropics right?

    • @gamersden30
      @gamersden30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kaikart123 No, you are just suggested to store the ingredients in an airtight container, ideally with a silica gel desiccator bag.

    • @Paiadakine
      @Paiadakine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you melt the powder mixture? In a regular sauce pan? How hot till it just melts or bubbles etc.

    • @scotttowle655
      @scotttowle655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paiadakine I have heard you actually add water to the mixture and you heat it up until most the water is gone. But... what makes me leery is the heat temperature. Don't make it hot cuz it could maybe blow the whole thing up. Burn injuries are 10000000% nothing to mess around with.

  • @quevicular
    @quevicular 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Ethan can you do a video of making a sugar rocket by Heating the composition up and pouring it into the tube.

  • @toboyaki_tagaraki
    @toboyaki_tagaraki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much for your wisdom, i finally know what iv been doing wrong. NOT GOING DEEP ENOUGH and also maybe not using a blender but a pastel and motar to grind the fuel.

  • @josephlevin
    @josephlevin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful video, Ethan. I enjoyed it very much. I would love to try and make these if I ever got back into model rocketry again. I have a few questions- 1. Have you ever designed this type of engine in such a way that you can get a recovery charge on it that will expel the nosecone for parachute or streamer deployment? If so, could you post a video? 2. Does the sugar completely burn away? I am concerned that with sugar being spread throughout the body of the rocket that it may eventually get moldy during times of prolonged storage, even with a cleaning of the rocket., 3. Is the PVC reuseable?, 4. What heights could a large Estes or custom build rocket that could accept this engine achieve? Thank you very much for your video and for your time!

  • @user-sg2yt6nc1z
    @user-sg2yt6nc1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video. Well done. kudos to giving props to thekingofrandom

  • @ROCKET-qs9ch
    @ROCKET-qs9ch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video👌

  • @dawiemoller5738
    @dawiemoller5738 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Gonna build these with my boy. Thanks for the video 👍

  • @robbbogoslowski8268
    @robbbogoslowski8268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Actually, seeing what you have explained. This looks like a viable fire starting system for avid backpackers and campers instead of the standard magnesium starters. Just a thought (for any back woods people out there).

    • @DiabloOutdoors
      @DiabloOutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Viable? Park rangers will jump on you, stump on you, stab you then shoot you. And if you survive, you'll be prosecuted. Why? for setting the forest on fire.

  • @jaceksuski7966
    @jaceksuski7966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Ethan, thanks for Your video, I tried to build the same sugar engine like You 3 times but all the time engines explode quickly after lunch (around 20 meters altitude) I have also read that it is better to use sorbitol than sugar (it prevents from explosion) but as I suppose it is less powerful. Did some of your sugar engines explode? Did You tested sorbitol ?

    • @krisknowlton5935
      @krisknowlton5935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I've made many engines using this method and never had one blow up. My guess is you did not compress the fuel enough (I use a three ton arbor press to compress mine). If the fuel is not compressed tight enough the flame will burn into all cracks and crevasses causing an uneven and extremely rapid burn that will cause an explosion.

  • @noway1
    @noway1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Adding 2-5% iron oxide by weight gives a much more even burn, and if you can work a sugar thermometer you can make a toffee of the oxidiser and the sugar (don't use a flame burner to heat it...) that is both denser and more predictable than the powder.

  • @micropyro7470
    @micropyro7470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video on sugar rockets Great explanations. No you didn't loose me on the surface area thing! Good job.

  • @Heisenberg618
    @Heisenberg618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What made you go with a 3:1 ratio vs Grant's 65/35 mixture? Do you suppose adding some iron oxide to the mix might give it a bit more juice or does that only help in the cooked version? I experimented with Grant's mixtures of the sugar rocket fuel from a different video and found that the version he cooked up with iron oxide burned faster and produced more thrust. The problem of course with this mixture being cooked into a thick frosting-like paste is that it's hard to work with and it solidifies too fast to fill a pipe with it. I tried and ended up with an air pocket in the middle of a 2x12 PVC pipe and it went boom 10 seconds after ignition. lol

    • @Easy-Eight
      @Easy-Eight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3:1 ratio but if you altered the formula with powdered aluminum (the government watches that) and experimented the results would be extremely powerful. My guess is the ratio would have to be the same of 3:1 but the "1" could be altered with powdered aluminum and powdered sugar in a 1 to 4 ratio. 75% stump remover, 19% powdered sugar, 6% powdered aluminum. BTW, where would you find an ounce of powdered iron oxide (rust)?

    • @Heisenberg618
      @Heisenberg618 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Easy-Eight I made my own using rebar and electrolysis.

  • @snikrew2233
    @snikrew2233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great..good idea, thanks for sharing..😎👍

    • @weirdzzzlol
      @weirdzzzlol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      TKOR did it first.

  • @thesnedd7219
    @thesnedd7219 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam truly is the king of recommending me the best things. Now I know how to make sparklers and sugar rockets.

  • @CookingBombs
    @CookingBombs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your video was definitely the most enlightening! I love you man, I'm recently starting my channel here in Brazil, and the good part is that the materials are cheap here!

  • @semoudemoleman1798
    @semoudemoleman1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    does this mixture also work if i take a smaller pvc pipe because i dont want it to go that high as i'll be making firecrackers to the end of them and when they go that high you wont be able to hear the explosion anymore. And will a normal blender also work instead of a nutri bullet?

  • @bradchen9317
    @bradchen9317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! But one question. Can you use the containers and blender for other foods after putting the stump remover in them?

    • @user-sg2yt6nc1z
      @user-sg2yt6nc1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea. Just clean.it lol

    • @krisknowlton5935
      @krisknowlton5935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The stump remover is potassium nitrate which is also known as saltpeter. Saltpeter is not harmful to humans and has been used to cure meats for centuries.

  • @gardenlifelove9815
    @gardenlifelove9815 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually like the very dumbed down explanation.. it works for even a child to understand and visualize, makes it easier for anybody really

  • @markissboi3583
    @markissboi3583 ปีที่แล้ว

    one best small rocket fuel videos ive seen so easy to do cheers

    • @markissboi3583
      @markissboi3583 ปีที่แล้ว

      IDK but adding some color powder and sparkles cud fun also

  • @detroitpyro2859
    @detroitpyro2859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent video.. rip Grant. Ethan can I use regular table sure and grind to a finer powder??

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. You will probably get a faster durn rate because powdered sugar has a little bit of corn starch that slows it down.

    • @detroitpyro2859
      @detroitpyro2859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EthanAllred1 Thank you!!! Is it at all possible to do a video on whistle mix and show how to press into a small tube to get whistle effect?

  • @joyfulpineapple
    @joyfulpineapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome!

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes just make sure they don't tip over and shoot you when launching them right? 😂

    • @joyfulpineapple
      @joyfulpineapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes definitely! That would hurt!.

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joyfulpineapple I would like to see how much weight one of these could lift.

    • @joyfulpineapple
      @joyfulpineapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EthanAllred1 You could maybe get a fish scale and tie a string from the rocket to the fish scale.

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joyfulpineapple I actually have done that. Max thrust was roughly 8 lbs

  • @davisrs1
    @davisrs1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't have a blender like that as a kid .... used the hammer and an anvil method to powder stuff up.
    Had potassium nitrate, ammonium nitrate, carbon powder and magnesium powders to improve boost, but there was a limit beyond which they just exploded.

  • @tomduke558
    @tomduke558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude like your way of elucidate simple rocket knowlwdge... as a kid i used to recycle those firework rockets, yes the black powder fuel tube was all hallowed out

  • @lyzrus2821
    @lyzrus2821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome now I just need to add black powder at the top to make it go bang 💥

  • @glennallred5510
    @glennallred5510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cooooooooool!

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Glenn. Even Way Coooooler in person!

    • @joyfulpineapple
      @joyfulpineapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EthanAllred1 I can attest to that!

  • @brianwilcox3478
    @brianwilcox3478 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I made suger rockets in the late 80s. Mine were core burners too. But I didnt drill the hole I made tools too do so. worked well good video

  • @CurtisTarwater
    @CurtisTarwater 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful video. Just wondering is there any way to add some chalk powder or other type of colorant to the fuel so that it acts as a tracer for altitude tracking?

  • @ralphl8055
    @ralphl8055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would look neat at night, we used to cut off CO2 cartridges at the base pack and full of match heads and then stick rubber bands up in there and then lite them he had to watch out they weren't packed too tight or they would blow up,

    • @damlynch9295
      @damlynch9295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to put M 1,000‘s in regular model rockets

  • @williambush7971
    @williambush7971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would be fun to make a multistage rocket. Just use longer fuses for the later stages.

    • @HD-wv4ul
      @HD-wv4ul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use fuse and glue to hold the two rocket engines together when the fuse burns it’s an easy seperstion method

  • @littleredhen3354
    @littleredhen3354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks fun! Thanks!

  • @heavenlover58
    @heavenlover58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes that looks very powerful . I like your project

  • @gregkral4467
    @gregkral4467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you could also use a plug of wood with a drift pin to tamp and make the cavity and not worry about friction whilst drilling, see poor man's james bond volume one. fun vid, man.

    • @Paiadakine
      @Paiadakine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That book gave me so many ideas. Too bad I didn’t have any money as a kid.

    • @theheartlessknight2426
      @theheartlessknight2426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As I was watching, I wondered if paraffin wax could be used instead of clay... it's that a thing, or do you need the clay to aid the reaction? Just curious.

    • @brothergrimm9656
      @brothergrimm9656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theheartlessknight2426 The wax will usually melt before the fuel is spent resulting in failure partway through the reaction.

  • @vendright
    @vendright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great place to start in this hobby, but, it is additive.

  • @rogergommert528
    @rogergommert528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow you done all the science on this one, so cool.

    • @zzzxxzzz3248
      @zzzxxzzz3248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No fuse , you lose !

  • @panavisionnot7180
    @panavisionnot7180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rocket Science for beginners..... sweet..

  • @bork7430
    @bork7430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:22 so how did you get it from where you made them out into the desert?

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Shhhhhhhh... Secret tunnels 😉

    • @bork7430
      @bork7430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EthanAllred1 Alright then, keep your secrets

    • @user-sg2yt6nc1z
      @user-sg2yt6nc1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That his backyard

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only takes a few minutes to make these type of motors. Premeasure all the ingredients and make them on site. Use electronic ignition for safety not hand igniting rocket motors.

    • @ypaulbrown
      @ypaulbrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mojaverockets good advice

  • @deidraallred2946
    @deidraallred2946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You smarty pants!🤓 Those are cool😎
    I love seeing your excitement when something you make goes just how you want it to😘
    You can show how to make a giant heart in flames with fireworks going off😉😉😉 for ideas for Valentine's day❤️💕

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ooooh !🔥🥀♥️ Sounds Hot!!

    • @deidraallred2946
      @deidraallred2946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EthanAllred1 it is😏 I had it done for me a few 7 years ago from a very handsome and romantic guy who likes to call himself Mr. CuriousRandom now days haha😘

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deidraallred2946 I still call myself Ethan Allred:)

  • @billkeogh1591
    @billkeogh1591 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Ethan. Wow! Those paper cut out props certainly helped. It is not easy bringing complicated topics down to bite sized pieces. You Nailed it! As for wicks and the launch sticks I see in the video, is there tutorials on them as well?
    I have 2 store bought rocket bodies that I bought many years ago but have never launched. I am tossing the store bought engines as they are likely not going to perform correctly after years of storage. Could I possibly use your PVC rocket Inside these store bought models?
    Thanks again for re-igniting my interest!
    I'll search your content for wick info..
    Take Care, Bill

  • @robinbrowne5419
    @robinbrowne5419 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome 👍 I got a rocket kit for my birthday about 20 years ago. My Dad and I made the rocket which consisted of a cardboard tube, some plastic fins, a wooden nose cone and a long stick to launch it. We even coloured it red and black with felt pens to match the fins. It had 3 small rocket motors and some electric matches to set them off. They were quite optimistic that it would fly 3 times, but the first time we set it off the rocket made a satisfying "whoosh" and then proceeded to spin out of control and landed in the woods at the far end of the field never to be seen again. Lol.

  • @Extreme-Graphics
    @Extreme-Graphics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wish you would have shown how you put the fuse in and what material the fuse was.

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know commercial cannon fuse is available. I've often thought of using sparklers or pieces thereof as a fuse.

    • @johnbee3416
      @johnbee3416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's rocket wick, you can buy it at any hobby store

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought my fuse from cal-ranch, 15 feet of Hodgdons canon fuse. Best fuse ever! You can get it at other sporting stores as well as online, but shipping usually has a hazmat fee.

  • @reyn578
    @reyn578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hola crapola! How high do you suspect those went?

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Way... Outta.... Sight! ... 1/3 Mile maybe.

    • @chronoes5921
      @chronoes5921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EthanAllred1 can you make the fuel out of potassium nitrate fertilizer?

    • @ypaulbrown
      @ypaulbrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chronoes5921 I think you mean ammonium nitrate, but I may be wrong

  • @mccranahan747
    @mccranahan747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont know how this ended up in suggested video's but 👍 thats cool i never knew !!!

  • @vj290
    @vj290 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay! Now I can build that RPG that ive wanted!

  • @harryrobertson288
    @harryrobertson288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do u have the rocket on the launch platform and how do u drill a straight hole

    • @EthanAllred1
      @EthanAllred1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To drill a straight hole, I just take it slowly and make corrections as I go. You could also use a drill press on low speed. It just takes a bit of practice. When I'm using the rockets like bottle rockets, (using a stick instead of a rocket body). I just stab it into the ground, pull it out, and put it back into the same hole to ensure that it will launch when ignited and not get stuck.

    • @harryrobertson288
      @harryrobertson288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Curious Random what do you do when the rocket spins out of control how would you fix that

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harryrobertson288 Study a basic model rocketry handbook.

  • @xxswamplordxx2079
    @xxswamplordxx2079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The rocket has 3x more potassium nitrate than sugar, but they give all the glory to the sugar & name the rocket after it. Sad day for potassium nitrate. Great video tho, I just have weird thoughts, lmao.

    • @notgonnaduit6315
      @notgonnaduit6315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be funnier to call it a saltpeter rocket😁 but I'm 60 going on 12

  • @fransmurati2370
    @fransmurati2370 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I made a sugar powder rocket by first melting the the recipe, thereafter I converted it back to powder form and then I compact it into a motor. I found it to be much more energetic burn.

  • @TheFrog767
    @TheFrog767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well explained 🍻