I have a similar SiS530 retail version of this motherboard, no ESS. Matched up with a K6-IIplus 450/600. Awesome all in one for the bench. Also have a Compaq SiS620 with a Celeron 466 and ESS Solo One I picked up a few months ago. Despite all the jumpers, cannot change to faster 370 (I think fixed in bios), so good DOS board. I like these quirky SiS boards. Agree not the fastest, but to quote Phil, “Slow is Good.” Amber, an excellent well researched and delivered video, Sub!
SiSyphus. I am DEAD. 🤣 That's great, a perfectly adequate DOS/Win98 pea-shooter! Nice! I'm working on a video about a weird industrial panel PC that was sold as "P4 ???GHZ" with several other incorrect specs listed! Turns out it's a VIA EPIA-5000 Mini-ITX board, with an integrated VIA C3 533mhz CPU, comparable to a Pentium 233 or so. QUITE a long shot from the P4 it promised, but that's fine lol. ONE PCI slot, no FDD header, USB 1.1, BUT it does have some half decent Soundblaster emulation in DOS (After some driver tomfoolery) so, it's been a fun challenge! But I gotta finish my Chrimbus video first 😅 Great video, Looking forward to the next one! 😁
Always fun to go back to these and see the bugginess. You’d think they had drivers sorted out enough when shipped so the majority of users would never notice
Most SIS 530 boards came with 1mb L2 cache and were great price-to-performance options. This particular one was bad due to having no L2 cache which is was incredibly important for the SIS530 since it had limited memory bandwidth. Back in 2000 I bought a PCCHIPS SIS 530 with 1mb L2 cache and K6-2 500mhz, integrated audio and video and it was a really great deal for $125. 800x600 video resolution was the norm back then and the integrated video handled 2D just fine.
This board seems similar to the Compaq we had when I was a kid. We put a Rage 128 Pro 16MB PCI in it, and other than Windows 98 being constantly borderline unstable, it was pretty good.
I own a similar board to this. BIN 530. It’s has a 530 / 559”X” chipset. To get mine fully working, I have to use the IGP driver, AGP (GART) driver and 5595/97 driver. Those two last ones have like extra stuff that the motherboard needs to get running stuff right.
I really like these highly integrated oem boards out of curiosity. It's fun to test and benchmark them. And any board with an ISA slot is a good board:)
The SIS530 isn't garbage compared to the later 600-series. I've got a SS7 board, and while it doesn't have AGP only onboard IGP, everything else about it is solid and FAST. It supports 100MHz FSB, currently runs with a K6-2+ 400, and has been the most stable of my Socket7 boards. Mine sports an onboard ESS Solo-1 as well, which works ok, but I opted for an SB32 PnP instead and disabled the onboard soundcard. The onboard graphics works great in DOS and Windows, and paired with my V1, it's an awesome machine.
I recently built a socket 7 pc with a soyo sis 5598 board with a pentium mmx 166 cpu and i actually like it because it peforms a bit worse at the same clock speed than my asus p5a board, so when i use setmul to lower the performance i can get it waaay deep into 386 territory, I had no problems with the on board video, however the onboard ALS 120 sound chip gave me a ton of problems especially I could never get the synth to work in windows for some reason but i ended up using dedicated sound and video with it anyway so it didn't bother me. If you're in the slow is good mindset the SIS boards are good to check out.
Aaaah, SiS. The bane of my younger self, and the first brave years working as a tech in the local "Ye Olde Computer Shoppe". Got a virus? Not a problem, we'll back up the important stuff and reinstall Windows. Windows.. Wiiindooows... OK, that was painful. Drivers. Drivers? What in the? But drivers! They're.. They're there! Work!
Did you try the 530 drivers from Retroweb? They also have a fully worked out set of jumper settings, for an overclock of a 100FSB CPU, it can do 105, 113, 125 and 133. Might be interesting to see if the L2 cache holds up and can deliver more performance at 133FSB and dropped multiplier
I'm sure I looked at this board's entry on TRW, but I don't recall seeing a manual or drivers. I'll have to go back and hunt around some more, because that sounds like it'd actually work pretty well.
As much as I love the idea of SS7 boards (especially the ATX ones are really nifty!), they're so expensive and really I'd probably have more fun with an AGP Pentium 2 or something :)
I have a similar SiS530 retail version of this motherboard, no ESS. Matched up with a K6-IIplus 450/600. Awesome all in one for the bench. Also have a Compaq SiS620 with a Celeron 466 and ESS Solo One I picked up a few months ago. Despite all the jumpers, cannot change to faster 370 (I think fixed in bios), so good DOS board. I like these quirky SiS boards. Agree not the fastest, but to quote Phil, “Slow is Good.” Amber, an excellent well researched and delivered video, Sub!
SiSyphus. I am DEAD. 🤣
That's great, a perfectly adequate DOS/Win98 pea-shooter! Nice!
I'm working on a video about a weird industrial panel PC that was sold as "P4 ???GHZ" with several other incorrect specs listed! Turns out it's a VIA EPIA-5000 Mini-ITX board, with an integrated VIA C3 533mhz CPU, comparable to a Pentium 233 or so. QUITE a long shot from the P4 it promised, but that's fine lol. ONE PCI slot, no FDD header, USB 1.1, BUT it does have some half decent Soundblaster emulation in DOS (After some driver tomfoolery) so, it's been a fun challenge! But I gotta finish my Chrimbus video first 😅
Great video, Looking forward to the next one! 😁
Those empty memory pads are just such a tease.
Definitely worth finding the right chip to solder in there, might even just work :)
I guess the slight performance increase wouldn't justify the costs and effort. But it sure would be fun anyway
The integrated graphics will continue super slow, but if you can disable shared memory it boosts the CPU ram performance also, so kinda neat, but yeah
Always fun to go back to these and see the bugginess. You’d think they had drivers sorted out enough when shipped so the majority of users would never notice
That's a thought. Maybe I just need to hunt down a restore CD for this model of Presario in order to get the onboard video working. Hmmm....
Most SIS 530 boards came with 1mb L2 cache and were great price-to-performance options. This particular one was bad due to having no L2 cache which is was incredibly important for the SIS530 since it had limited memory bandwidth. Back in 2000 I bought a PCCHIPS SIS 530 with 1mb L2 cache and K6-2 500mhz, integrated audio and video and it was a really great deal for $125. 800x600 video resolution was the norm back then and the integrated video handled 2D just fine.
This board seems similar to the Compaq we had when I was a kid. We put a Rage 128 Pro 16MB PCI in it, and other than Windows 98 being constantly borderline unstable, it was pretty good.
5:58 that's a cool little SD toaster!
SiS chipsets were very useful for fault diagnosis. If you saw that green heatsink: there's your problem.
That's mean😂I remember the Elitegroup K7S5A with the SIS735 chipset (Socket A) was a decent performer.
I own a similar board to this. BIN 530. It’s has a 530 / 559”X” chipset. To get mine fully working, I have to use the IGP driver, AGP (GART) driver and 5595/97 driver. Those two last ones have like extra stuff that the motherboard needs to get running stuff right.
I really like these highly integrated oem boards out of curiosity. It's fun to test and benchmark them. And any board with an ISA slot is a good board:)
Agreed!
The SIS530 isn't garbage compared to the later 600-series.
I've got a SS7 board, and while it doesn't have AGP only onboard IGP, everything else about it is solid and FAST. It supports 100MHz FSB, currently runs with a K6-2+ 400, and has been the most stable of my Socket7 boards. Mine sports an onboard ESS Solo-1 as well, which works ok, but I opted for an SB32 PnP instead and disabled the onboard soundcard.
The onboard graphics works great in DOS and Windows, and paired with my V1, it's an awesome machine.
Interesting board, fun video. Thank you! :)
You're welcome!
I recently built a socket 7 pc with a soyo sis 5598 board with a pentium mmx 166 cpu and i actually like it because it peforms a bit worse at the same clock speed than my asus p5a board, so when i use setmul to lower the performance i can get it waaay deep into 386 territory, I had no problems with the on board video, however the onboard ALS 120 sound chip gave me a ton of problems especially I could never get the synth to work in windows for some reason but i ended up using dedicated sound and video with it anyway so it didn't bother me. If you're in the slow is good mindset the SIS boards are good to check out.
Aaaah, SiS. The bane of my younger self, and the first brave years working as a tech in the local "Ye Olde Computer Shoppe".
Got a virus? Not a problem, we'll back up the important stuff and reinstall Windows. Windows.. Wiiindooows... OK, that was painful. Drivers. Drivers? What in the? But drivers! They're.. They're there! Work!
Did you try the 530 drivers from Retroweb? They also have a fully worked out set of jumper settings, for an overclock of a 100FSB CPU, it can do 105, 113, 125 and 133.
Might be interesting to see if the L2 cache holds up and can deliver more performance at 133FSB and dropped multiplier
I'm sure I looked at this board's entry on TRW, but I don't recall seeing a manual or drivers. I'll have to go back and hunt around some more, because that sounds like it'd actually work pretty well.
As much as I love the idea of SS7 boards (especially the ATX ones are really nifty!), they're so expensive and really I'd probably have more fun with an AGP Pentium 2 or something :)
Slot-1 with Intel BX chipset also is my prefered late-DOS /Win9x platform.
Great Video As Usual Amber
Thank you, Dave!
I wonder what would happen if you soldered on some ram in those empty spots.