"Hope Chess": Very Common Thought Process Error

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  • @danheismanchess
    @danheismanchess  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for watching! Don't just hope - want a better chess thought process to improve? Check out th-cam.com/video/40rjYtAXuDQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @giorus
    @giorus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Dan. Just played a slow game on Lichess right after watching this video. Win in 26 moves. 0 inaccuracies, 0 mistakes, 0 blunders. I don't think it ever happened before. Big thank you!

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats! While I can't take too much credit, the idea of avoiding Hope Chess is one of those few epiphanies (Aha!) that can possibly have a dramatic effect on someone's playing strength in a relatively short amount of time.

  • @SKSte1982
    @SKSte1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The term «hope chess» was user by Larry D. Evans in a number of instructional columns in Chess Life and elsewhere. He user that term to describe «I go there and I hope he goes there»-thinking. The term he user for not watching out for the obvious was «hopeless chess».
    People who have read his articles may explain why they interpret the term differently.

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for that interesting historical insight. I do not claim no one ever used the word "hope" when describing chess thinking. However, with regards to what I refer to as "Hope Chess" was formalized in the article "The Secrets to 'Real' Chess", which I wrote for the Skittles Room of the online magazine Chess Cafe in ~1999. I did not base the ideas in that article on what Larry wrote (I don't recall seeing them...), so any similarity or conflict would not be intentional. And yes, there is no official dictionary of chess so although I often get misquoted (or misunderstood) when others refer to "Dan Heisman says Hope Chess...", everyone is welcome to use the term as they feel appropriate.

    • @NinjaSquirreI
      @NinjaSquirreI 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@danheismanchess Larry D. Evans (no relationship to the more famous late GM Larry Evans) did the chess world a great disservice by using 'hope chess' to mean 'I hope he goes there." You were first to use the term, and you use it describe a very important aspect of beginner chess, that of not looking at potential replies to a candidate move.

  • @KFlorent13
    @KFlorent13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is some amazing stuff.
    You identified what is so obvious that nobody ever speak about it.
    Thanks.

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      K - thanks. Yes, the first time I wrote about this (in 1999 in the Chess Cafe Skittles Room in my first web article called "The Secret of Real Chess") I got email from all over the world saying "This is amazing; I have been playing chess for 30 years and no one has ever told me this important stuff before!" :)

  • @gordonkleinpell8150
    @gordonkleinpell8150 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Dan! Very enlightening, and yes, not taught in any books. Well done, and Best regards

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I "hope" you liked it and some of the other instructive videos on my channel :)

  • @noahgregory9570
    @noahgregory9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think one of the reasons this is so insidious for many players is that they are told that all they have to do is not hang pieces.
    Unfortunately, not having hanging pieces doesnt mean that you can reply to all of your opponents threats.

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, not have "loose" (hanging) pieces is a good first step but, as you point out, hardly sufficient to make a move safe.

  • @joegreenwood86
    @joegreenwood86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found these videos and they're great. I'll be showing them all to my daughter who is getting into chess and is young enough to actually get good!

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe, thanks, glad to be of service. You can use my playlist "Basic Material" to find the videos that deal with more basic subjects (not too much pure beginner stuff though...)

  • @daniels.3990
    @daniels.3990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is really a hidden gem

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, much appreciated. I depend on viewers like you to "pass the word" so it's not so hidden! :)

  • @gogoghina3937
    @gogoghina3937 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    on 13.04 what happens if black plays gxf4 and after that theknight is hanging on f8 and the fork Ne3 is athreat?

  • @jackm4457
    @jackm4457 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm a stronger player (1800-2000) than your target audience, but use your instruction when I need to get "back to basics." I "hope" it helps.

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jack, thanks. Yes, some of my videos are more basic than others. But half of my books would be appropriate; for example, many the problems in Looking for Trouble and Is Your Move Safe? can both be difficult for players of any level.

  • @Achbiter
    @Achbiter ปีที่แล้ว

    good show coach

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, much appreciated. If you can, pass the word about my channel th-cam.com/users/danheismanchess to your chess friends :)

  • @Chess_Improving_Adult
    @Chess_Improving_Adult 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You for explaining it so simply.

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome. Glad to be of service :)

  • @mattrobert2431
    @mattrobert2431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good advice. I’m a newbie so it resonates.

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to be of service; if you are a "newbie" check out my Playlist "Basic Material" :)

  • @edmundhilgen3795
    @edmundhilgen3795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the great video.I want to improve my game more too.Im about 1600 and I still think I can get better.Keep up the good work.

  • @runaldinjo
    @runaldinjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I am a 1200 player and do this all the time. Totally agree this probably is one of the greatest improvement an amateur can do. BUT the video doesn't explain how to most efficiently stop playing hope chess (?) Now I have read your books and articles and now playing slow is the part of the answer, but I would really like to know the fastest way to improve in this area. I try to predict opponents response both in play and tactics, but progress is (too) slow....

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Runaldinjo. Hmm. I think all my videos and articles on Hope Chess make it clear that by defining Hope Chess as NOT considering all the opponent's check, captures, and threats (at least the reasonable ones) on the next move to ensure you can meet them safely, that avoiding/stopping Hope Chess IS consistently considering all opponent checks, captures, & threats as replies to your candidate moves to see/ensure you can safely meet them next move. And yes, progress is always going to be slow; if chess were tic-tac-toe and much simpler, everyone could go from beginner to world class in a short time. We wouldn't want that :)

    • @runaldinjo
      @runaldinjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. This is my current situation AND it describes the end state/goal where I want to be. It's the path between those two points I would like to get some recommendations on. Is playing slow games and reminding yourself about this on every move until it is automatic the best way to improve here? Would studying end-games or doing tactics (slowly) while considering responses be a better/just as good way?

  • @chessforfunonly1586
    @chessforfunonly1586 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is more about the semantics between 'hope' and 'hopeful'

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks; opinions always welcome :) Even though I popularized "Hope Chess", everyone is welcome to use that term for other meanings than I intended. If that means some want to differentiate with "Hopeful" (or not), is up to them. I find it amusing that of all the contributions I have made to chess nomenclature, the one that has caught on most universally is Hope Chess, with meanings beyond my original intention :)

  • @TillSwims
    @TillSwims 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks 🙏 Basically Hope Chess is a blunder when you miss the opponents threat in the next move . Right ?!

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Somewhat. I am not talking about identifying and meeting threats from the opponent's previous move (that I cover in my book "Looking for Trouble"). It is possible opponents checks, captures, or threats (not just threats, as you suggest) on the next move (in response to your candidates) that need a safe reply on your next move. If you don't consistently check for that, that's Hope Chess.

  • @filomontani8683
    @filomontani8683 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:21 is there anything wrong with Qe4+?

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On questions like this, just check with engine. If it says your move is good, it is :) I think in this case it transposes to the same lines I gave in the video.

  • @vincentduhamel7037
    @vincentduhamel7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    21:20 ooof

  • @bulentkirca3311
    @bulentkirca3311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you :) :)

  • @Av4nQuisH
    @Av4nQuisH ปีที่แล้ว

    this channel wouldve blown up if it had real thumbnails

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. The more recent videos have more graphic thumbnails designed for me by a marketing firm. But what really helps any channel is publicity, especially via word-of-mouth. Obviously if say, GM Nakamura mentions a video on his popular stream, that kind of publicity is invaluable.

    • @Av4nQuisH
      @Av4nQuisH ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danheismanchess i promise if you had a thumbnail that grabbed attention (for example someone praying for a move to work with bright colors/glowing aura and big text etc. (you know what i mean) it would be so much more valuable than word of mouth. especially for yt algorithm. also a more appealing title for beginners and simpler english for the non-native market (india/russia etc). nonetheless ill still share this video because ur great! just trying to help

    • @Av4nQuisH
      @Av4nQuisH ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danheismanchess ​ @danheismanchess incase u didnt understand what i meant for example look at gothamchess or annacramlings thumbnails. i promise its how they get atleast 60-70% of their views

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, much appreciated. But I already paid one marketing firm to do my thumbnail; there's only so many resources I can spend for that. I still depend on word-of-mouth for much of the marketing. My videos are not currently monetized so I can't say that by spending more money I end up ahead.

  • @AakashKumar-gl2fk
    @AakashKumar-gl2fk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video starts at 9:40

  • @JunkBondTrader
    @JunkBondTrader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But hoping is easier than thinking :p
    No, this was good advice someone recommended to me. I _do_ do this. I'll try stop!
    To me, I see hope chess as lazy chess. I do it because I get too lazy to think haha. It sounds dumb but you just gotta try hard, and sustain that effort throughout the game.

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, it only takes one bad move to lose a game so you have to do the work on each and every move (assuming you have a slow enough time control). One move where you don't look for your opponent's replies of checks, captures, and threats & next move you may be facing an unstoppable threat, and possibly game over.

  • @allbunsglazing
    @allbunsglazing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shame the audio makes this unmatchable for me!

    • @danheismanchess
      @danheismanchess  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the note. As I frequently write, the first two dozen or so of the videos was made with a "normal" microphone, but then I switched to a professional mic I used for my Chess.com TV show. So if you didn't like the audio for Hope Chess, just search for a later one on the same subject and the audio should be better :)