John Smith tries to save his son from war｜The Man In The High Castle
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- John Smith tries to protect his son from a certain death.
Clip from The Man In The High Castle - Season 4 Episode 6
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“I am Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, your senior drill instructor”
False, if Hartman was there, the US would’ve won the war in a week
Are you the Maggot whose father served in the Pacific?!
Its from Jarhead but still hilarious
"For now on your name is 'Schultzy', do you like that name Private?"
"It was shortly after meeting Drill Instructor Hartman, that I decided joining the Marine Corps may have been a Bad decision."
Dead!!!! XD
“We’ll take good care of your boy.”
“No you won’t.”
"Excuse me?"
"You think I don't know how this ends?"
“I understand mr. smith it’s only natural to be concerned about your son”
"Yes it is..."
Open his suit and show his america nazi uniform
the way his voice breaks when he says "I have allways been proud of you Thomas"
great acting
Saddest moment for me.
He should have shown it more often over the preceding 18 years.
@@thatguyinelnorte sometime we cant see what we have till we lost it
That made me cry.
When he said, "You think I don't know how this ends?"
He was a soldier who fought in the Pacific theatre in WW2, he knows the death and horror that awaits his son
Nah, he knows from the other worlds that his son dies in the war everytime.
I thought he fought in the European theater
@@rajeevkelvin3724 no, he fought in the Solomon islands campaign
What happens if/when his son ends up being some POG who’s stationed in CONUS or sits in an office on a base hundreds/thousands of miles away from Southeast Asia in general (much less Vietnam itself)?
@@rajeevkelvin3724 as did I
John Smith sounds so heartbroken in this scene. Superb acting!
i feel so bad for him. it's the same when in their real world, thomas surrenders him self to the medical thingy :(
Especially when Thomas says be proud of me and Smith says "I've always been proud of you"
That line really tugs at the heart
@@solinvictus4367 This is the first clip I've ever seen of the show and that line hit me hard.
Yeah for the whole show this guy was great
[*SPOILER WARNING*]This is the scene that would have made me thought that Smith hated this Reich and that he would try to climb the ranks to destroy it and to a point he in fact did. However in the end due to the show having to end abruptly soon he was just given the hitler death or he kills himself and then thats it when he had all of America back and could have canceled the attacks and changed his part of the Reich back to the U.S.A
I love how the way the Marines take him away is in the same walking formation as when the Nazi Doctors take him away
The whole scene is the same. I wonder if it's the same cast. That would've been a great Easter egg
Yeah that was crazy
This scene is tough. Seeing a father watch his son march off to his death is gut wrenching. Having to see him watch it happen a second time, voluntarily and powerless to stop him, is heartbreaking.
@@kompav5621 I mean both where indirectly his fault. In his own universe he engrained the Nazi ideals so much into Thomas that he willingly walked to his death upon learning he was born with a genetic disability. While here he choose to not stand up against the problems in his country (Racism at the bar scene). So Thomas choose to fight evil in another way, and that was to serve in the military where everyone is equal against an outside opponent.
I was watching this with my dad, we both loved the show. We talked about this scene a bit one night, and he was saying how he didn't like how they Marines were being compared to the Nazis taking Thomas away. And right as I jumped in, he started to say the same thing I was going to say in response: the proper context is that to John Smith, even though he is "back in in the good o'l US of A," he loves Thomas so much and is so terrified of losing him again that the Marines may as well be the Nazi death squad; they are no different to John because either way, he loses Thomas again, and is convinced that Thomas is going to die in Vietnam.
This man carried the entire show.
he was the best character in the show
His voice when he told his son he’s always been proud of him... so heartbroken.
John Smith and Inspector Kido are top-notch in this show. The sequence where Sewell comes back and sees his son is an amazing show of his acting skill.
These two and the trade minister are the only characters that mattered, they wasted way too much time on Juliana's stupid romance novel storyline that never went anywhere.
People forget we loved watching the Sopranos even when all the main characters are sociopaths, because you occasionally get glimpses of their humanity
"I won't let you take him" wow superb acting with his voice breaking, got me in the feels
Rufus Sewell carried this show so much. Kito and the Japanese/Pacific states storyline was good also. Honestly this show would’ve been ten times better if they had focused on those two alone and written out or minimized Juliana Crain and the whole resistance. Instead the last season was ruined by the pointless BCR and final tunnel scene.
This show had so much potential.
yea such a fascinating setting with some really interesting characters and they somehow fucked it up i kinda wish they forgot about the whole resistance thing and focused more on the story of smith and kido and explored the setting a bit more a alternate cold war between Germany and Japan could be pretty cool to see
That's what put me off watching this series. I'd read the book years ago; I don't think Philip K. Dick is very good at writing text, but the ideas are brilliant. In particular, I was interested in seeing how the occupation has become 'normalised' after so many years, with people just getting on with their lives and the Nazis and Japanese just being a background presence. I thought the idea of some kind of 'resistance' was a cop-out (especially when you consider the current political as social climate in the US.)
I did reconsider giving it a go after I'd heard some positive reviews. But then I heard about the whole 'dimension-hopping' thing and decided this really isn't the show for me.
It's a mixed bag for us AltHist fans. For some the whole setting is too far beyond what the suspension of disbelief can hold and that's fair. The book was written before the full details on Axis recourses were public knowledge. But it's good to see any form of content like this. I think if we can get content creators to avoid the Nazi-accupied-America trope and focus on other what-if scenarios then we can really expand the genre to other audiances.
100% this.
Yeah, literally
The part where John says: “i know how this ends.” It sends chills down my spine. We all know how this ends. Either addicted to drugs or a cold box barely 6 feet under.
Such pessimism!
Thomas might have ended up serving in Hawaii, The Med or the Caribbean, on Embassy Duty.
Probably serve happily for 25-30 years got the great pension and all the benefits of the USMC, use that to get a cushy job at Bechtel, Halliburton or BlackRock and make a killing on stock options, etc.
he probably be retired, taking his boat out, fishing off of Hilton Headand finishing the day with a round of golf.
I served twice, it doesn't end that way for most of us but keep watching movies and pretending "you know" lmfao
you don’t know what you’re talking about
I can confirm this as a former Marine.@@archlab007
thank you. that's what they think when they watch too many war movies, and have never served. perception based on tropes and stereotypes only @@patricktalbot8980
The fact that the idea of this alternate Universe version of John Smith - a high ranking SS-Officer and warcriminal - still, inspite of his indoctrination and deeds, breaks down before the marines when his son is taken is a very strong human moment - him dealing with the loss of his timeline's son by escaping to another Universe, just to have the same perpetrator take his son away - again - makes the parallels and the message behind this anti-war moment very impactful in my opinion.
Showing the humanity within him as he struggles to come to terms with what his world is and that even other worlds carry over these unfortunate conditions at times.
Underrated comment right here.
Wow great insight! Twice, a society driven by a fanatical movement took away his son.
Everyone is human afterall.
And then the writers made him commit to the full on genocidal shit
anti-war messages are stupid, selfish and evil.
"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accept the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay-and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
John showed anger, loneliness, despair and frustration all in one scene
The fact that John knew in advance that Thomas was going to die if he went to war really adds to the scene.
As someone who grew up believing my father didn’t care or feel any pride at all for me, this scene actually hits home a little bit.
for me, now my Dad says alot "I love you" never really says hes proud of me but since childhood he really didnt say it, idk it still feels off or atleast no where the same when it comes to my mom saying she loves me.
@@DaftPunkSkittle My dad's never even said he likes me haha let alone loves me
@@a.m11558 lol thats pretty funny
@@mohammadrezapahlavi4578 yes
Maybe you never gave him a reason to.
His son dies for the state in multiple universes. finding that must be crushing
You realize he is gonna die when the scene of him being taken by marines is just like the scene in season 2 when he was taken by the Nazis.
Am I the only one who thinks this scene would have been even more poweful if one of those two soldiers was Joe Blake? The man, whose alternate self's life was ruined by Smith now comes as ghost of past to John and takes his son away from him and thus unknowingly exacts revenge on him.
Jesus, that wouldve been good. Unfortunately, seems they couldnt work with the actor's scheduling and bring him back. A little cameo wouldve been nice though
I think that would have been a bit on the nose, and probably distracted from the rest of the scene
that would have been shocking!!!
@@Quazgarion honestly yeah. We would've been talking about how cool it was to see Joe again after a season and a half lol
Ends up being an Admin never seeing combat lol
Honestly, that would be a blessing...
Good for him. Only knuckle dragging apes of low intellect are bitter towards personnel with jobs that need at least a few brain cells.
@@johnroscoe2406 Sounds like a response of someone who claims that their MOS is aLmOsT iNfAnTrY
@@Gorg-oe1hu yeah, .mil is gay.
@@johnroscoe2406 How bourgeoisie of you, your privilege is showing
And in both worlds he loses his son, even here it's somewhat by his influence with his son wanted to do his part like his father before him. Just this time rather than him standing there on live television showing himself to be a paragon of Nazi virtue unknowingly puching his son to turn himself in he's right there watching his son be taken away to fight a war.
But unlike in The Reich Universe, Ms. Smith is Calm in Allied Victory Universe.
"but i've always been proud of you thomas" fuuuuuuck that hit me hard
That “I’ve always been proud of you Thomas hurts man”
Marine Corp has the finest Dress Blues
Man losing your son at the first try is sad, getting a real second chance is like the best thing ever. Now to lose it again...
I love how the director had make the camera angle and composition so similar (or even same) to the same scene when Thomas give himself to death in parallel world. It make more impact on the feeling
I was watching this with my dad, we both loved the show. We talked about this scene a bit one night, and he was saying how he didn't like how they Marines were being compared to the Nazis taking Thomas away. And right as I jumped in, he started to say the same thing I was going to say in response: the proper context is that to John Smith, even though he is "back in in the good o'l US of A," he loves Thomas so much and is so terrified of losing him again that the Marines may as well be the Nazi death squad; they are no different to John because either way, he loses Thomas again, and is convinced that Thomas is going to die in Vietnam.
The fact that this is the second time this John Smith lost his son makes it so much worse
Maybe he had a 3rd chance after committing suicide
The scenes of John in our world show that he wasn’t really a bad person deep down, that he didn’t start out as a Nazi true believer. He was a good man, forced to do what he had to to survive a bad situation, who’s humanity became corrupted by the power and the politics. This trip was a turning point for him, despite his reservations building a bit before this.
He's still a bad person. Loving your family doesn't change that. Plenty of terrible people loved their own family and took care of them. Genghis Khan is a perfect example of this- guy murdered tens of millions of people, but in the end he was heartbroken over family squabbles like a normal person. I doubt most evil people see themselves as evil in the first place. You think Hitler thought what he was doing was wrong? Of course not. He loved his country and his culture and justified genocide in the name of building a better future for his country. Doesn't make him any less evil.
What chu talkin about Willis ? Smith deserved everything you got, he's the biggest hypocrite of alland deservesno sympathy.
this guy was an evil conniving bastard.. sure he cared about his family,, but had no issue with killing thousands and sending him the death campsjust so he could Scurry away from the danger.
I seen guys like this all through my service career, & within my industry.
Guys like Smith are an extreme cancer and if you fall for their B.S. you lose big-time.
now as far as Rufus Sewell goes as an actor,he is top notch!!!
should have been considered for a Bond Movie.
Sorry I love the character too but he wasn't forced to do shit.
bullshit
Thomas leaves with the marines exactly same way as he was leaving with nazi guys for sterilization in previous season. They hold him same way, he has same facial expression, even van has some correlations. Brilliant reference!
The van was reused on multiple occasions in the show.
Love how the organ kicks in at the end, perfect
I wish they would have explored more of John Smith and redemption!! Instead of him loosing his mind.
Monumental scene, in regards to the acting and character development. I can't believe this show took off so much in the past few days. Such a huge gain in viewership.
Dad, I don't need any measurements.
It's for your casket when you return home.
when you think about it, helen was left alone in her life
her husband was murdered and her son died in vietnam ... poor woman
Since when did Thomas die in Vietnam? What if Thomas is just some POG who works in an office doing paperwork hundreds/thousands of miles away from Southeast Asia, much less Vietnam itself? What if Thomas is stationed in CONUS at Cherry Point or Camp Pendleton or what if he’s in Okinawa? Since when did the Viet Cong and NVA have troops in Japan or California during that time?
@@andezong9565 apparently Thomas doesn’t die in the war.
It was never revealed if he did die or not, its litterally opned for interpretation.
By the time the series ends the war is about a decade from being over and Thomas is still alive and either still in training or just out of it. It's unknown what will happen to him. But you're right that alt-John will have disappeared mysterious from Helen and Thomas's perspective.
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@@firemangan2731 It *couldn't* have been revealed either way yet. When the series ends his potential death hasn't had a chance to happen yet. He's only recently enlisted and undergone training.
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We saw him being taken away by the Nazis in a very similar fashion, albeit with the presence of guards and the certainty of death. This scene just goes to show that although one parallel universe is deemed wicked as compared to the other, the other universe can't exactly be deemed righteous either. What made it worse was that right after this scene, his death was implied, and audiences were left guessing if he survives his time in the military or not (making us feel the distress John must've felt in this very scene).
Weirds me out how just... old, John looks in this scene. He just reminds me for some reason of that grandfather or father who’s just been hit by a train (metaphorically of course) and is just depressed.
Compared to his alternate world counterpart, he had a shitty life.. i know that he's an evil bastard but i actually feel pity on him. After all, he joined the nazis just to protect his family.
I know its not that personal to most but i fucking sobbed at this. My dad called me an idiot for throwing away a 200k academic/50k academic/150k rotc/type 1 afrotc scholarship and joining the infantry. Made my life hell on earth til i shipped out (we were super close at the time so it hurt way more). After I was gone he was the one person to write me AT LEAST once a week in OSUT. Realized he never hated me or my choice, he just missed his son. Love ya dad
Not hating you doesnt mean he doesnt still hate your choice. If someone you care for is about to do something you think is wrong, its your duty to tell them instead of just applaud something you believe will be bad for them. You can accept them doing it but still hate it and wish they never had
Its even more sad when you think of it on different levels, John comes from another world where he is high up in the chain of command and knows what it is like to sacrifice men in war, seeing them only as numbers. Now he travels to another world to see his son be sent away to fight in a war where another man high up in the chain of command will see him only as a number.
Just noticed Helen is wearing a similar dress in this scene as in the alternate universe when Thomas surrenders himself to the Reich.
Reminds me of my parents leaving me at MEPS before going to basic, it was so fast and I knew the longer the moment, the worse the pain.
It feels like it's a grounded event that, no matter the timeline, Thomas will always be carted off by two men in a van and away from John to his near certain death.
The scene also mimics Thomas from Nazi world being taken by guards for extermination. In the US World he is going with the Marines for Vietnam war enlisting.
A nice depiction that shows the fate of the character in the parallel worlds.
I'm interested. Could the" good version " of John Smith have dissuaded Thomas from going to war? Would he have found the right words to prevent it? Or was it all a foregone conclusion? The" evil version " of John Smith in season 4 destroys everything he touches. This is a great tragedy of the character, in my opinion.
Probably. Thomas was surprised and disappointed when Nazi John didn't react to the black couple being discriminated against in the diner, which only reinforced his decision to enlist. This world's Smith definitely would have stepped up, and his words probably could have kept him from going. But alt-John's experience with war was a lot more positive than his counterpart, so he might not have even tried to dissuade Thomas from leaving in the first place.
Had "Good John" not been murdered, I think he has a true heart to heart with Thomas. As Juliana suggested, GJ would have told Thomas the ugly side of war with a compassion and honesty that Nazi John would not have been able to generate. He might have told his son, "You want to fight evil? Did you see what happened in that diner with the black couple being arrested? Maybe you should try to fight that." That Thomas then goes to law school, or joins a Voter Registration drive - hard to say. Virginia in 1964 wasn't exactly friendly to black folks.
I think when Thomas responds "It doesn't matter now" after John asks "Is there anything I could've said that would've changed your mind?", it's strongly suggesting the main John couldn't get through in a way that world's John could have, largely by standing up for the black couple and showing there were things to fight for at home.
This scene is so heart breaking, I understand both sides of the spectrum on this one.
man I just want more of this show, it's kinda sad it ended.
Gut wrenching. Love Johns character and all the tragedy and development he goes through
4 years Later
“YOU CAN’T KILL ME!!!”
yeah because we need to resell you
Ending was not a big deal, but this series worth gold.
honestly the most beautiful TV series.
Until they ruined it.
this is a fantastic series
"Be proud of me", that flashback bruh...what a hell of a scene...what a hell of a show. One of the few Amazon originals to have actual good writing and characters with depth!!!
The actor playing Smith is amazing
See the 1998 film “Dark City” that also starred Rufus Sewell (John Smith).
When you join the marines to spite your dad who was in the army. XD
This scene is deep
*King Theoden Laugh*: "You have no power here."
*king theoden cries*: "no parent should have to bury their child!"
He has A Seal Contract. He’s as good as in. 🤣🤣🤣
I love the correlation between that and Thomas leaving to die
That Marines scene with Tom Berenger from "The Fourthof July" (1989) was more impressive.
that must have been absolutely horrible for him. he lost his son once. and now hes about to lose him again.
At least he got the chance to say goodbye to Thomas this time
This is how my dad felt about me. :(
hes proud of you
@@johnmarstonification Naw, I am really a fucking loser.
Fortunate son starts playing
In the nazi unniverse, he is kind of fortunate to be son of top leader
If he'd stood up for the black folks at the diner, he would have shown his son that there was a reason to stay home and fight here. Instead, he remained silent, and lost his son for the second time.
Yeah that's true
Would you? At that time? C'mon...giving good advice from now is so simple and cheap.
@The Desert Fox Absolutely not logical, by the way. Fighting elsewhere, when fighting for justice at home was the thing he claims from his own father...
@@donjorge8329
Look at his name and profile pic. He’s a Nazi.
@@charliecartwright491 I doubt that. I always got the sense that John joined the Nazis not because he believed in their ideology (he still struggles with betraying his Jewish friend) but rather out of necessity and to protect his family. But yeah definitely right about the 60s thing.
Perhaps it is poetic justice that Nazi Smith is fated to lose his son and this one too.
This is an interesting show I can't stop watching!
While he was first in the house i kept on say act better your gonna screw this up! Lol
It must suck being Alt-Helen
To experience the same heartbreak twice, and know that youre powerless against it even if you have a literal time machine will break any man.
Fate has cursed John Smith.
Small attention to detail: the scene where Thomas walks away with the marines uses the same camera angle soundtrack that was used with Thomas walking away with the nazi doctors. Safe to assume he probably died in Vietnam due to how they presented this
Not necessarily. The director just wanted the audience to understand that, in the eyes of Smith, this was the same thing all over again.
„no you wont“
truth
The cinematography of this shot is very similar to when Thomas surrendered himself to the doctors. Also his last words are the same in both scenes.
Smith only saw conventional warfare, his son was going to something worse...
Thomas gonna get ripped to shreds by Vietnam rice farmers
id say the Japanese resistance in the pacific was fairly asymmetrical, especially on the bigger islands.
@@atari947 true, but in his world he only experienced Europe and the mainland
I don’t know if it it is just male hard wired make thinking but having your father saying they are proud of you is the highest praise.
Dam those dress blue always looking sharp
that scene tho, i feel so bad for him loosing his son.... TWICE...
Imagine how many sons he has killed or caused death of.
I mean he did organize new genocide first chance he got so...
When their is death, there always be death
Thomas Smith in 2024: I remember the day I left for the marines, my father who served in World war 2 tried to prevent me from leaving. He asked me if there was anything he could've said that would change my mind, I told him it didn't matter at the time and I asked him to be proud of me, and he was always was. Looking back I don't know if there was anything he could've said that would have changed my mind, I wanted to go.
I wanted to see a version where he gets revenge on paralel America.
One of the only well-executed and redeeming scenes in the entirety of this season. I hate Amazon so much for how they massacred this show.
As much as i dont like the multiverse plot, ironically this has to be one of the coolest parts of the season
The entire episode where he was in the US world was the best wow
Hellen in Reich Timeline: THOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!
Hellen in Alternate timeline: This Is Fine
It doesn't matter what alternate history you are in war is always expected to be a given
He was soo cute
Thomas
“It’s a canon event”
He got to watch his son walk away from him again, saying be proud of me.
Actually, he didn't see it the first time. He was coming back from Berlin.
Count Adhemar is looking well.
Step on those yellow footprints boot.
Thomas Smith was fated to die in both timelines. 😮
Some children live to make their parents proud
Imagine during WWII, when a soviet, Chinese, Greek, Polish family watch their sons marched off to conflicts, what kinda of heart wrenching moments that would’ve been. Feeding your loved ones to mincing machine of the enemies’s steel and fire.
These countries must have subconsciously accepted survivals were accidental.
The other death is because he's ill in alternate universe he was drafted.
He wasn't drafted he volunteered
♪♫...it ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son...♫♪
Those are some tiny ribbon stacks for Ssgts lol
So as I am understanding here, John Smith planned to invade that world and use that version of Thomas as a replacement. Are We understanding each other here?
This was one of the most devastating scenes of the entire series for me. The acting is goddamn great
#
Thomas rides to Valhalla
Did those marines know John is a veteran?
He quite easily could have just broken his arms, and prevented him from going.
My dad was in the Air Force in the late 70s/early 80s and during basic there was a guy who got cold feet halfway through basic training and instead of meeting with the drill sergeant and being persistent that this wasn’t for him and he’d like to go back to civilian life instead iirc broke both of his wrists punching a wall to get out. Not the sharpest tool in the shed needless to say
God this show was brutal.
Damn Thomas really has the characteristic of being naive
The heartbreak of knowing that no matter what dimension of the metaverse he is in.......John Smith can't save his own son.