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  • @maxlong21
    @maxlong21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1339

    The fact that they made ermac nothing more than a jobber is insulting

    • @kingartison
      @kingartison 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      maxlong21 loudly insulting

    • @all-stargam3rpunk
      @all-stargam3rpunk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      They've made a vast majority of out world warriors jobbers so non of them feel like a threat instead they feel more like a joke

    • @J0J0Zx
      @J0J0Zx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Ermac could literally slaughter all of earthrealm by himself...except maybe kenshi

    • @ADG.Est.1988
      @ADG.Est.1988 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea it's disgusting ermac would actually be a great black or red lantern in the injustice siory arc.

    • @V_For_Vigilante
      @V_For_Vigilante 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Dare Devil ermac is one of the strongest mk characters even stronger than liu kang sindel kitana jade Jax scorpion sub zero and kung Lao etc but there is one man who can beat ermac and that’s raiden

  • @sekri0940
    @sekri0940 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1042

    “This twisted parody of the Edenian family” *Ermac and Kitana T-pose*

    • @ningus223
      @ningus223 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      BionisKappa *_* Underrated comment

    • @random_cr0w
      @random_cr0w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rerorerorero

    • @Wilk111
      @Wilk111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I know its late, but Sindel facepalms

    • @bradleyrutledge
      @bradleyrutledge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dominance

    • @hermos3602
      @hermos3602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ningus223The comment has over 1k likes. It's not underrated. You need to use a dictionary.

  • @ajwrestling7855
    @ajwrestling7855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +542

    Ermac being treated as a jobber is insulting
    He is the reason Jax has his metal arms (in the new timeline)
    He helped Liu Kang defeat Onaga (in the old timeline)
    Ermac is easily one of the most powerful characters in MK but he has been buried.

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      RooByrne24 what was the point of your comment? The OP didn’t deny the fact that Ermac is treated as a Jobber in the new timeline and not being brought to his full potential alongside being redeemed as a hero again.

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RooByrne24 your comment seemed to imply that the op didn’t acknowledge Ermac being turned into a jobber for dumb characters like Jacqui etc.

    • @ajwrestling7855
      @ajwrestling7855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RooByrne24 I honestly forgot about that fight and her chapter with good reason

    • @lukejones7164
      @lukejones7164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shujinko canonically beat Onaga, not Liu Kang. However, Ermac helped Liu Kang free his friends from Onaga's control.

    • @ajwrestling7855
      @ajwrestling7855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      luke jones Sorry for that, I made this comment on the spot so I probably would forget some sort of information

  • @eclong462
    @eclong462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    Aaand then they just murdered Ermac in the Krypt. Thanks MK11. Thanks NRS, you never cease to disappoint

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The krypt isn’t canon.

    • @MysticEle
      @MysticEle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@RazuX5You're right! So instead they just ignored him entirely for 11 instead! That's only slightly better!

    • @BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian
      @BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      mk11s character roster is pretty tragic (minus dlc)
      could've used some more, I know Armageddon already used the "everyone is here" card but honestly there could've been at least a few more (namely the other two kids and ermac)

    • @pogggaming4470
      @pogggaming4470 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think he’s treated better in mk 1

  • @richyrichwhoisrich3393
    @richyrichwhoisrich3393 5 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED MY BOY
    Mortal kombat 11: impaled by spikes

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Either that(though I am pretty sure Krypt is not canon) or it turns out all the souls that comprised Emrac got absorbed by Shang Tsung.

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      night shroud96 both were non canon.

  • @thatspecialguy3291
    @thatspecialguy3291 6 ปีที่แล้ว +709

    you are the only person that actually makes fan fictions kinda logical

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      I tend not to care for fanfiction that isn't consistent with the canon. It makes me wonder why they even bothered.

    • @richardthorndike6608
      @richardthorndike6608 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      because frankly if it's good enough and constant enough to be in actual canon then their is no reason why it should not be. Fanfiction at least for me is an opportunity to write an elseworld or AU story and to have fun and share. It's kind of a bad thing if a fanfiction can prove to be better canon then the people who are being paid to make sure the timeline remains constant.

    • @Stormscythe378
      @Stormscythe378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@The4thSnake Agreed, I am the same way.

    • @ffejpsycho
      @ffejpsycho 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I wouldnt go so far as to say that he is the only one who makes fan fictions logical...
      I would say that everyone but him makes fan fictions completely illogical, however.
      🤔

    • @corpsemachine6949
      @corpsemachine6949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ffejpsycho what about those star wars guys?

  • @thatringinginyourears3955
    @thatringinginyourears3955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    kenshi always seemed like a character with a lot of potential but nobody even bothers to give him more than a one note personality

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      He used to be a lone wolf, who used the SF to get himself to Outworld for his own purposes, only forming an alliance with Sub-Zero after the latter saved his life. Now, he's... nothing.

  • @richardthorndike6608
    @richardthorndike6608 6 ปีที่แล้ว +462

    Ermac, Reptile, Baraka, all three of these have the same thing in common. they were characters that at one time were interesting but have become little more than Generic one note Jobber-fodder (Baraka and Reptile especially considering Baraka is now just a mob NPC and reptile is now just a generic lizard person with a gollum/Igor voice with really no arc or followup to his story.
    Speaking of these two would you consider doing a wasted potential on either of them?

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Kano is also this. Hmm, the saurian plotline could be worth exploring further. I'll see if I can come up with something.

    • @mikemccauley7706
      @mikemccauley7706 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@The4thSnake I always want to know what make kano a evil bastard

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sozz for the late reply but my suggestion is take notes from Konquest (The show) with Reptile. Make him serve Kahn not out of loyalty but pragmatism, Reptile serves in hopes of liberating the souls of his people and allowing them a place in society. This could also build on his relationship with Kotal if the latter actually does it somehow.
      Or have him serve Kahn but eventually learn of his people's survival and striking out on his own to find them and help them out with rebuilding, giving us a sympathetic character with tangible goals.
      Baraka I feel should be a stoic and rather imposing opponent content with serving. So very similar to what he is but make him more scary I guess?

    • @sharkquisha3407
      @sharkquisha3407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ermac doesn't really job out. He still beat Johnny Cage, a few tarkatans and 3 of the kombat kids aside from Takeda.

    • @gh0rochi363
      @gh0rochi363 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reptile and baraka were always shown as just henchmen of shao khan. The potential you see is because you like the design of the kharacters nothing more

  • @purplematter2807
    @purplematter2807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    I really hope someone from Netherrealm sees this and hires you. You have the well researched, deep fan lore knowledge that a lot of us still miss and long for.

    • @SandwitchZebra
      @SandwitchZebra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah, he's got so many good ideas. It's pretty good. Plus, he's not scared of being shunned by the community because he hates a game so many people like. That takes guts.

  • @Khotgor
    @Khotgor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    You know, my first official game of MK was Deception, and I generally hated... most of the characters. A lot of them were uninteresting, including the popular ones like Scorpion and such, they just didn't grab me...
    Ermac did though. Of all the characters he hit the critiera of A) Looks and Design, B) Gameplay and Feeling, and C) Background and Abilities
    Whilst other characters may have hit one or two of them, Ermac was the one that hit it for me in Deception, and I generally never felt any regrets. I only wish that Ermac got some love, but then again I kinda wish that for other characters that I generally don't like as much as well.

    • @chrismarple
      @chrismarple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don’t disrespect the goat scorpion

    • @nouration9685
      @nouration9685 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Deception is my favorite MK game right now along with MK9, but I did think its roster was not the best, I don't think Deception is a good entry point for the series. you long in the game, and you find the roster is two ninjas with opposite colors, a female pink ninja, a guy with swords for hands, a guy with face mask, a black mummy guy, an edgy native American guy, a fat drunken and 4 weirdos who you will never hear of before or after this game. that's not a good entry point for an MK fan at all lol. it missed most of the notable characters: Liu Kang (zombified and gets no screentime), Raiden (dark version and also no screentime outside the intro), Kung Lao, Kitana, Johnny Cage, Sonya Blade, Jax, Kano, Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung, I didn't rally get to know any of these iconic characters until MK9
      But I must say, now that I am a full MK fan, I have gained more appreciation of Deception for trying to create a completely different roster and feel, it is the 6th game after all, you can't keep recycling the same character forever, I love that it brought characters like Mileena, Ermac, Nightwolf and Kabal to the forefront and making use of the absence of all the heroes, so Deception is still my favorite

  • @suddenllybah
    @suddenllybah 6 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Oh god, bringing along the other Edenian twisted royal family really works to save that kill them all scene.

  • @thomasraines1396
    @thomasraines1396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Ermac teaching Kenshi telekinesis as a whole is much better then him being taught one move that he could’ve easily done on his own by thinking for five seconds. Also the name “King Ermac” Just sounds awesome.

  • @Xertaron.
    @Xertaron. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I think the biggest offender is that, aside from Ermac being responsible for Jax's metal arms and hinting that Jerrod's soul makes his being, they added NOTHING to the character in 2 games (and butchered him in a process). He only exists in story mode of both games to pad them with extra fights, nothing more.
    I won't bother to make take on Ermac, because just like Shang Tsung, Reptile, Baraka and Sheeva he got trashed so hard in this new timeline that nearly anything would be better than what NRS done with him. That and i like your take very much.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thank you. It's shocking how little they've done with him.

    • @jeangentry6656
      @jeangentry6656 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They always doing mah girl Sheeva dirty.... :-(

  • @Silver-Kaitou
    @Silver-Kaitou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ermac Kahn and King Ermac.
    ....
    That is fucking awesome.

  • @EremitaJ
    @EremitaJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Man I love Ermac, his design has always been so appealing to me... yet I have to see him pushed to the side.

  • @stranger5011
    @stranger5011 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ermac: You know you could simply slam people on the ground with teleknesis right?
    Kenshi: I CAN?!?!

  • @Offbeatcat
    @Offbeatcat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ermac: *Falls off bridge and dies for no good reason*

  • @iscottista1950
    @iscottista1950 6 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    At least Ermac is top tier lol.

    • @Xertaron.
      @Xertaron. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Unfortunately NRS doesn't know that.

    • @unbelievablytrash9458
      @unbelievablytrash9458 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Word of mouth says so. His feats (in the new timeline) don't

    • @computationjix428
      @computationjix428 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      You see my guy, the old timelime would never let Ermac be beaten by Kenshi's son. He was able to take on all of Onaga's revenants at hold them back at the very least. New timeline Ermac's biggest lost is getting beaten by Stryker in the Subway

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@computationjix428 and Jacqui which is ridiculous that he lost to her and all the other characters you mentioned although I could forgive Takeda since he was trained by both Scorpion and Kenshi and has inherited powers while Jacqui and Stryker don’t and are just normal humans with gear.

    • @frozezone2947
      @frozezone2947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RazuX5 just because takeda were by shirai Ryu doesn't mean he should be bodying people who has more experience and lived longer then him

  • @Kronosfobi
    @Kronosfobi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I honestly like Ermac as a collective minded creation. Bringin Jared back for redemption of ermac would be too cliche. However, since all souls are edenian, he could be freed from kahns magic and instead of one soul dominating others, Ermac can stay as a collective minded creation and fight for edenias future.

    • @mudd7779
      @mudd7779 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This tho

    • @nabilahmed579
      @nabilahmed579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True but given they like to shit on jerrod just for lols and for the sake of it, i think it’s time to bring him back. I had an idea of what if ermac was actually king jerrod but brainwashed (the identity behind ermac is jerrod, samilar with the identity of scorpion, hanzo hashashi is the man behind the mask). Shao recognised king jerrod’s power as king but was worried that he might be able to gain control of his new persona and be to his old self so he decided to replace his old powers with new ones (soul magic telepathy) so he can be back to his original power level but at the same time, Shao would be immune to jerrod/ermac’s magical abilities. Then we would get to explore the concept of both parents of kitana being the main enforcers of his army and kitana trying to save both parents.

  • @trav34
    @trav34 6 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Not much to say here from me, I enjoyed the video and really like the idea of Shao Kahn and Jerrod fighting again, but this time for control of Ermac.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      At least in an ending, it should happen.

    • @billmcdermott9647
      @billmcdermott9647 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s your take on Jade and her 2011 ending?

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not much to say. It doesn't give enough information for its potential continuation to be an exciting prospect.

    • @MegaFlarez44
      @MegaFlarez44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I headcanon that that's been happening throughout the 25 years that have transpired in the second timeline. I could imagine the distress and Shao Kahn's overpowering soul making the construct deteriorate slowly.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could make for a fun costume/variation set. Klassic, Jerrod, Kahn.

  • @AzurlotheBlue
    @AzurlotheBlue 6 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    3:30 wow good stuff, I'm enjoying....wait.....Is Kitana about to T pose to establish dominance?

  • @TrueBlueMajikDewd
    @TrueBlueMajikDewd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Smoke being a reincarnated demon is canon. In MKX, he prefers to be called by his demon name.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It could just be him using that as a new codename.

  • @The13thElysium
    @The13thElysium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Honestly characters like Ermac, Sindel and Mileena are a lot more interesting to me than Scorpion, Johnny and Sub-Zero. The latter three usually get a decent amount of screen-time anyway but it would be nice if they could step aside for some of the other characters! :O

    • @DUflo100
      @DUflo100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think NRS has developed a favoritism with johnny too

    • @nabilahmed579
      @nabilahmed579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DUflo100 that’s only for the new timeline but he was defo done well

    • @chrismarple
      @chrismarple 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scorpion is the goat and sub zero is cool but I agree with Johnny

  • @stanj85
    @stanj85 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Yes! All of this! I hate the way they treated Ermac. He is one of my favorite characters from the series, but he ends up being bitch slapped and trivialized through the entire new time line. Any of your ideas would've been PERFECT! So goddamn frustrating that the studio couldn't be bothered to even try...

  • @KritoSkywaker
    @KritoSkywaker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    You just added more reason for me, why I still prefer the Original Timeline. The alternative timeline have cool ideas, but these gets crushed down with mistakes. And it is not healthy for the franchise.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I think the series needs a hard reboot after the next game.

    • @shadow-squid4872
      @shadow-squid4872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The4thSnake Well... I guess nearly a year later your wish came true!

  • @kevinbalfe
    @kevinbalfe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Instead of dying in the krypt Reptile, Rain, Kenshi and the others should open up a restaurant called Ermac and cheese.

  • @JethammerTakeoff
    @JethammerTakeoff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Not to mention ermac is one of if not the most legendary character in the whole series going from playground stories of him even existing to playable red ninja to badass telekinetic mummy to Kitana’s father trapped in a prison of souls to bad guy

  • @horrorbaraz
    @horrorbaraz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In roughly 10 minutes you already wrote a much better story for one of MK's most loved char. Seriously I'm a big fan of your wasted potential series. Please keep it up!

  • @michaelhannigan4144
    @michaelhannigan4144 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This aged well

  • @SlurpyTheDog
    @SlurpyTheDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For Reptile, I think it would be really cool to see him take a similar deal that Erron Black originally did, where Shang Tsung offers him eternal life/lack of aging. Reptile living forever means his species would be unable to fully die out, and he won't have to rush to find a way to restore the Saurians.
    In exchange, he could perhaps not take an active role in the tournament, rather, he could ambush earthrealm kombatants who posed a potential threat, and take them out during tournament downtime, as a sneaky way for Shang to tip the scales in Outworld's favor.

  • @anthonys5542
    @anthonys5542 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I hate watching these videos because it makes me realize how solid and how much better the story could be if NRS didn't spend the majority of their creative budget on how to make Scorpion as cool as possible.

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anthony S incorrect, they’ve spent most of their time giving attention to characters no one asked for back into the franchise like Jacqui and Cassie (and they weren’t even one of the cool kombat kids from MKX like Takeda).

  • @justletmechangemynamegodda5156
    @justletmechangemynamegodda5156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    9:09
    Mk11: laughs in Krypt Ermac easter egg

    • @shikniwho7215
      @shikniwho7215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and then "the desire to save his wife"
      Mk11: his wife is the one finished him off.

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not an Easter egg since you need the item to progress through the krypt plus it was established by one of the creators on Twitter that the krypt is non canon (even though there are already multiple obvious hints that it was never canon in the first place)

  • @Mars_over_seer
    @Mars_over_seer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    During MK9 Sindel should’ve confronted “half” of the earth realm fighters. That being Night Wolf, Sub Zero, Jax, Sonya and Kitana. Then cut to Chapter Ermac/Kenshi. It cuts to Kenshi looking for Shang Tsung then encounters Ermac. Their telekinetic battle leaves gets flashbacks of his past. He gains a control and thanks Kenshi for freeing him. He assist Kenshi traversing in Kahn’s fortress. (Shang Tsung didn’t die in this version) They Run into Shang Tsung’s lab and Ermac receives more flash backs but Mileena and Shang Tsung find them and find out Ermac is a traitor. Right when Kenshi is about to deliver the killing blow to Shang Tsung, tarkatans swarm the lab and Ermac retreats into a portal he creates. He senses a familiar aura being Sindel, then they find her next to the bodies of the earth realm fighters (except Sonya is unconscious). Ermac sees Kitana and it triggers his final memory. He tries to subdue her but she proves too much for him, which leads Kenshi to defeating her. Ermac breaks her mind control and Sindel becomes horrified at the fact she slated her own daughter. She swords revenge on Kahn for what she has did to her and her family.
    That way, they lose 3 heroes for 3 new ones.
    Sorry for typing an entire novel

  • @dr.calibrations7984
    @dr.calibrations7984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Remember when Shao Khann wasn't a big dumb ape and the idea of him banking on Jarrod loving Sindel and therefore would try harder to protect her was believable?

  • @WolfDB
    @WolfDB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Here's another possibility for the new timeline with the idea of two Ermacs: Have both of them set aside their lead souls' differences to serve Mileena, but for different reasons. For Ermac-Khan, have him serving Mileena because he not only considers Mileena his daughter, but he also wants to stop the man who calls himself "Khan" and who sits on his throne. For King Ermac, he wishes to help Mileena become her own woman, have her saved from the cruel reality she's headed towards and treat her as a surrogate daughter much like how Kitana is his actual daughter. It can also help with Mileena's development a little too, with her having to decide which way to go? Does she stay allegiant to Shao Kahn, does she go with the group treating her like a real family in Jerrod and Sindel? Or does she forge her own path, maybe leave on her personal journey of self discovery and possible redemption when she comes across Kitana and/or Jade if one or both happen to be free from the Revenant curse?

  • @abduldajewl
    @abduldajewl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ermac khan ans king Ermac sounds so dope

  • @Sindel1011
    @Sindel1011 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Tbh I wanted Ermac’s 2011 ending to be canonical too because he’s my second my fav Kombatant and with Sindel being my first I thought it was perfect!

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They could be such great characters, if the writers actually tried.

  • @snipers_gaming_
    @snipers_gaming_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    These videos are so inspiring, I know I’m half a decade late but your videos have inspired by cause to rewrite these games but with my own twist :]

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nice.

  • @popejpv
    @popejpv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how there are all these awesome names or at least regal sounding names In MK then there’s Jared... out world’s premier ring salesman

    • @chadrickgist6650
      @chadrickgist6650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its fate..as it can only be Jared's 😂

  • @antcow1239
    @antcow1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always seen Ermac and Scarlett as Shao Khan's insurance policy.
    One gains power by assimilating souls and the other blood. If Shao ever died, his soul and all the souls he ate
    would be keyed in to be absorbed into Ermac and his blood into Scarlett.
    Both would be more powerful but would fuse together to rebirth Shao Khan, now boosted in power from Ermac and Scarlett.

  • @Corvus460
    @Corvus460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are still hope for Ermac story. For example: Kenshi is dead and Takeda wield the Sento. He travel in Outworld to revenge on Daegon. He meets Ermac nearby the Soul Chamber. Ermac teaches him how to use telekinetic power of Sento. And Takeda with the help of Ermac defeats the Red Dragon and its leader.
    Why to Ermac doing this? Maybe he wish to undo all what he had wrought by order of Shao Kahn.

  • @ArgieGrit
    @ArgieGrit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I fully expect Ermac to be killed off unceremoniously"
    Bet you didn't imagine it'd be THAT unceremoniously

  • @MysteriousTomJenkins
    @MysteriousTomJenkins 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the old games Ermac could take on Johnny Cage (can dodge bullets, chop heads in half and rip bodies apart), Kung-Lao (a Shaolin Monk, probably equal or slightly weaker than Liu-Kang), Jax (can dodge bullets, punch people through the ground and even tag Kabal in MK 11) and Sonya (can dodge bullets, can rip people in half with her legs and send them flying through the air with them) all at once meaning he took on four super strong, bullet timers and master martial artists on at the same time and won. In the newer games he gets defeated by Liu-Kang (not a bad thing, dude can beat Shao-Kahn and Shinnok), gets beaten by Sub-Zero (dude is stronger or at least equal to Bi-Han who defeated gods) after blowing off Jax's arms, beats Johnny Cage (who has become more impressive, but wasn't at this point) and then loses to Stryker (a normal cop), then Tekada (someone weaker than Sub-Zero), then Jacqui (same thing, and they are both amateurs). At the very least, they showed his telekensis was powerful enough to uproot trees which I imagine is impressive, otherwise he went from taking on four strong main characters at the same time to only managing to beat two in two separate one on one battles and mostly getting his ass kicked by normal dudes and amateurs. Also in Leather Face's trailer, instead of him killing Jacqui and Cassie, two characters who would match victims of a horror movie, they instead have him kill Ermac, Ermac's ending has him get killed and in MK11 he dies from falling on a spike in the Krypt despite him being able to fly. He went from top tier to mid tier to bottom tier over the course of four games.

  • @ClintonKE
    @ClintonKE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Instead of doing this lets make Sindel a gold digger and Ermac just jumps off a cliff!"-someone at Netherrealm

  • @EndoScorpion
    @EndoScorpion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love to hear your thoughts on Rain. I find it almost criminal he's been practically ignored since the reboot. His Armageddon story really opened him up to a lot of possibilities and I'd love to see him interacting more with the other Edenians. Rain would certainly have something to say about King Jerrod taking dominance of Ermac.

  • @callmesenpaidesu1506
    @callmesenpaidesu1506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    9:12 this man is so fucking right. Fucking prophets u only see emac once and its him falling off a bridge and being impaled in the krypt

  • @chaisebearr.8552
    @chaisebearr.8552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i miss him.
    he was my main.

  • @UnifiedEntity
    @UnifiedEntity 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Deception Ermac was the best Ermac. Not manipulated....actually freed Earthrealm warriors, TRAINED KENSHI...did alot of good of his own free will....the best FUCKING outfit of all the Ermac iterations....yeah...Deception Ermac was best Ermac

    • @fearz-4367
      @fearz-4367 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think 9 and X had the best outfits, but yes, I agree with everything else.

    • @Honestlynothingelse
      @Honestlynothingelse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And fun fact: noob saibot original design was originally gonna be havik's alt but they gave it to the character havik and havik was made cause noob saibot appearance

  • @SandwitchZebra
    @SandwitchZebra 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A part of me is convinced that this video was the inspiration for taking Jerrod being part of Ermac from “cool ending tidbit” to “part of Ermac’s story” in MK1
    It’s not exactly what they did, but that’s good. It wouldn’t have worked in the new timeline the exact way it was done and it would’ve been lazy to just copy-paste this. I’m glad they finally did something BOLD with Ermac, something that dramatically changes his story going forward. Even if the way it was done is kinda bs, I’m very happy with the decision to do this. I love Ermac and I can’t wait to see this new direction they’re taking him in.

  • @wisewolf7388
    @wisewolf7388 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh boy wonder how Snake feels after seeing Ermac in the Krypt.

  • @Terry_Irvin
    @Terry_Irvin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn the amount of work you put in these are amazing. You made Ermac seem like the coolest character in the series.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's certainly up there.

  • @jokersvault4155
    @jokersvault4155 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    MK1 SPOILERS!!!
    So. Clearly they took MANY notes from your videos!

    • @LostOneOmega
      @LostOneOmega 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They should hire him or at least consult with him and give him credit. Snake knows MK and actually loves it.

  • @samcortez420
    @samcortez420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rumor has it that Siro is on of the souls Ermac has. That is why Ermac is so strong.

  • @fainiffo1312
    @fainiffo1312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well. I guess you were right about Ermac being killed off unceremoniously...

    • @killrcupcake2994
      @killrcupcake2994 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      His demise was... Beyond insulting? I'm not even a fan of him or anything and I felt cheated

    • @thekirbycrafter7229
      @thekirbycrafter7229 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Krypt isn’t canon

  • @albertwesker1599
    @albertwesker1599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's How Ermac Became A Good Guy in Original Timeline.

  • @RationalOrc
    @RationalOrc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the Black Company books, one of the main villains is a character called "soulcatcher" who supposedly steals souls from people. The sorceress had many voices, sometimes sounding like an old man, sometimes, like a young child, and sometimes like a spoiled princess. In the beginning of the story, it wasn't even clear which gender soulcatcher actually is because the voices would change so often and the character always wore black robes.
    I think it would be cool if Ermac was more like that. Like, not only is Jerrod soul in there, but also some great warrior of the shokan is in there too, and maybe some uber assassin of the reptile species. All these ancient strong willed beings fighting for dominance over one body.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be cool. Probably a nightmare to arrange and assign battle grunts, but sill.

  • @okoenig.3424
    @okoenig.3424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Any scene with the Kollector would have been 6 times more meaningful with Ermac. Don't @ me.

    • @jimmycirigliano3481
      @jimmycirigliano3481 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ you. You're right.

    • @RazuX5
      @RazuX5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      O Koenig. No it wouldn’t since his points in the story don’t fit with Ermac at all plus he shouldn’t be on the side of evil anymore at this point.

  • @deadknight1402
    @deadknight1402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a mirror match dialogue variant, where Ermac 1 notices that Ermac 2 isn't under Shao Kahn's spell anymore. If you get the normal version, then Ermac 2 says that they serve no one. But in the variant, where he speaks in a single voice, saying that he's found his own path. There's a good chance that Ermac 2 here is now fully overtaken by Jerrod.

  • @recommendedlisteningorder8937
    @recommendedlisteningorder8937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We close out the... *ERM* , *A* h, *C* all it the "Royal Family Trilogy" with the King of Edenia.

  • @jinkazama7587
    @jinkazama7587 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    People give too much credit to NRS for MK lore. Ermac turned to a Scorpion 2.0.
    Scorpion became infamous for franchise that they needed him to have a major role in the main story. He was supposed to be a Spectre that seemed unbeatable but now it's Ermac which is fine because MK needs it.

  • @dariancoleman7184
    @dariancoleman7184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is very Interesting it's like a alternate Timeline or a alternative destiny of the characters. Good vid.

  • @pedrourbano501
    @pedrourbano501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About kenshi and ermac, what if kenshi knew of his telekinesis but didn't knew how powerful it was or couldn't harness it properly so ermac helped him and in this time he teaches kenshi the telekinetic slam.

  • @OfficialMeowingBusiness
    @OfficialMeowingBusiness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is probably the coolest idea ive heard from the few vides ive seen from your channel, keep up the good work! :)

  • @trevoranthony3018
    @trevoranthony3018 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Neatherealm musta saw this video

  • @gun101shots3
    @gun101shots3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how he says that giving a character there origin story in a tower ending a bad thing. *cough cough*, smokes and Johnnys ending.

    • @gun101shots3
      @gun101shots3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not saying this video sucks cuz tbh this version of Ermac is amazing, but saying that giving characters their origin story and revealing more about the character is a bad thing is really subjective.

  • @paynesyler6428
    @paynesyler6428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, he definitely WAS killed unceremoniously lol at least he's now gonna be part of Shang Tsung's moveset

  • @twinodoom
    @twinodoom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kung Lao being the reincarnation of The Great Kung Lao links back to his Armageddon ending, where Blaze sends him back in time to become his ancestor and defeat Goro.

  • @TheRavenShadowsWolf
    @TheRavenShadowsWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, I may not be good enough at playing fighting games to think it's worth wasting money to rage quit... but I do like this series' characters and (very tangled) canon. What I will say is; it boggles the mind why they haven't hired you. I mean, with all these videos you've proved to me your perfect for the writer's job. If it was up to me, you'd be on any game you wanted in a heartbeat. No fatality required beforehand.

  • @JimXUltima
    @JimXUltima 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasted potential at the end. Mk movie "your soul is mine!"

  • @meghan_c
    @meghan_c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You wanted to see Jerod fighting for control in Ermac in mk1,then you won't see Ermac at all in mk11

  • @latiosfreak2000
    @latiosfreak2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ermac isnt even in mk11 unless he is dlc...

  • @spider-manunknown9193
    @spider-manunknown9193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They gave him an awesome designs in the NRS games but he barley gets any story.

  • @UnifiedEntity
    @UnifiedEntity 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Next Mortal Kombat should be called Mortal KO bat Redemption. Because ALLLL these characters need it and netherealm NEEDS to redeem themselves

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If they were to do a take on Deception as a baffling number of people are assuming, it would work as a subtitle for Shujinko too.

  • @U7OrionUISign
    @U7OrionUISign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing Mk Content And Keep Up The Great Work 4th Snake

  • @fernandopiresrui1723
    @fernandopiresrui1723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Mk1 ermac does some justice to thw character

  • @alphapenguin2209
    @alphapenguin2209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s really crazy that you predicted relax dying like that

  • @christophersalinas2722
    @christophersalinas2722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro he literally died, well, that’s what The Krypt shows, and that’s what Shang Tsung said

  • @HearcliffOW
    @HearcliffOW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I

  • @ryanocerus7853
    @ryanocerus7853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mileena becoming the new queen of Edenia makes sense. Like, becoming good and seeing her potential and not just some poorly cloned Kitana with Tarkatan blood. She could sit on the throne of Edenia, one of both Edenian and Outworld, emissary to Earthrealm, creating a balance between Order Realm and Chaos Realm, which don't get mentioned much anymore. But maybe they will be. So, honestly, I felt this was major plotential for Mileena moreso than Ermac. Though Ermac has always been one of my favorites. I actually loved what they did with him. Far more interesting now.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, Mileena already got her own episode.

  • @InfiniteThinking-qw1on
    @InfiniteThinking-qw1on 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ermac is my favorite character in all of MK. The fact that NRS mistreats the character so much makes my blood boil sometimes, especially with the redesign they gave him now. I like the ideas in this video, however, I think nowadays Ermac relies too much on having Jerrod's soul, ever since they introduced that plot point in MK9 it's the only thing people focus on when talking about him, like it's the only interesting thing about the character. Honestly, I like that idea, but I also think it forces Ermac to be Jerrod, something the character didn't need to be great. He's not Ermac anymore, he's just Jerrod. In the original timeline, no soul in Ermac's body took control, they were a hive mind and agreed on every thought, making them one being. I think if they developed Ermac better they could use the idea that he has Jerrod's soul, but at one point Jerrod's soul manages to leave Ermac's body and gets his own body, separating the two characters. Good video anyway.

  • @kingxd3ath_arts485
    @kingxd3ath_arts485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ermac killed unceremoniously yep you called it

  • @rancor76
    @rancor76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Ermac can take my soul any day

    • @trav34
      @trav34 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      rancor76 Your soul is m- wait wrong character

    • @chiiing8288
      @chiiing8288 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      shadow fiend

    • @V_For_Vigilante
      @V_For_Vigilante 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ermac the best

  • @jennifercorbett8640
    @jennifercorbett8640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now I officially ship Sindel and Ermac thanks to this video.

  • @them.
    @them. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gonna be honest, I didn't know how it was spelled before I turned on captions for this video, so I just laughed at the fact that, from my perspective, you had these strange names like Sindel or names from objects like Kitana...
    and then there's just Jared

  • @macabrexd
    @macabrexd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the guess about ermac dying unceremoniously was eerily accurate.

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair, it's not difficult to predict NRS stories.

  • @operator7209
    @operator7209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He predicted Ermacs death dying in the Krypt or his MKX ending

  • @diegoprodriguez
    @diegoprodriguez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there any chance you’d be willing to do an entire rewrite of MK games. The way you explain things make the characters actually feel like characters rather than fighters. I’d love to see it on a more broader scale

  • @mav1884
    @mav1884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ermac is awesome, too bad he ain’t in MK11 he totally should have been

  • @donutdog1937
    @donutdog1937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so i had an idea for baraka instead of him just being a jobber once milena is killed by bug bitch baraka storms into the special forces camp after searching for her knowing of milena's fate he becomes enraged letting himself be consumed by hellfire as scorpion watches trying to stop him as he well knows the power of the hellfire (i dont remember what actually possessed scorpion so im calling it hellfire) so baraka throws him aside becoming ever stronger because of the hellfire he lunges at devora tearing her in two and burning the corpse as scorpion grabs him they teleport away not being seen for a while baraka becoming a clone of scorpion like his love milena was a clone of katana and in baraka's arcade ending you can show what happened after scorpion teleported them both away baraka calms down a bit as scorpion trains and helps baraka to channel his anger he will join either earth realm against kotal kahn because he was the one who ordered the attack on milena or he will join shinnok against earth realm because it was cassie and her crew that helped in milena's death directly or he will join with scorpion doing some other third thing (this is only off the top of my head so plz don't kill me)

  • @Nick-up5wv
    @Nick-up5wv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The idea of a split Ermac makes sense. 2 of them represented and Kahn and Jarod fighting for dominance on the inside is great 👍 Midway hinted at a similar idea with Spirit Lui Kang and Zombie Lui Kang in Deception, as well as Bi-han being both Noob AND original Sub-zero, but never followed through. Noob-Zero and Lui Kang restored would be cool 😎 I even liked in Quan Chi's Deadly alliance ending when Lui Kang's soul took over a dead Kano. Imagine THAT as a possibility 😳 Anyway I really like where you went with this and Ermac was one of my favorites. Oh and I'm assuming he was around for a while, at least in his ORIGINAL time-line because of the role he played in Konquest mode with Shujinko and Asharah. I never liked his" oh we created him for MK1 for the hell of it angle; nor his taking Jax's arms randomly" that they did in the new time-line. I figured he is seen again after the first tournament in MK Shaolin monks but encounters Kenshi instead of Lui Kang and Kung Lao. After the battle Ermac takes pity on Kenshi, understanding his plight with his struggle with his ancestors and teaches Kenshi nessacary skills he needs to defeat Shang Tsung and get revenge. We don't see Kenshi until Deadly alliance, but Ermac is scene having a change of heart during MK 3 after Shao Kahn is defeated. He goes on a spiritual journey after this and by Deception decides to attone for his actions by helping Earth Realm's heroes defeat Onaga. Than the stuff you said happens and BOOM! He's a great character again 👏

  • @zar1536
    @zar1536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ermac, baraka and reptile have some of the best designs and have so much potential. But they keep getting fucked over and sometimes even dead.

  • @tentrilliconlp7748
    @tentrilliconlp7748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how in the NRS timeline Jerrod just got back together with the woman who betrayed and killed him.

  • @Kalina47
    @Kalina47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "He's in Ermac." That's wordage on par with "I'm not gay, Greg."

  • @jommybates2496
    @jommybates2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a 11 year old boy who is obsessed with Mortal Kombat and I always love watching your videos because I agree that netherealm has ruined some of the best characters. im not a professional or anything but I've always had a passion for mortal kombat.I love watching you propose new better ideas for characters and I have even made some of it my head canon.Keep it up.

  • @turbostriker2673
    @turbostriker2673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:13 WELL WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT ENDED UP, DON'T WE.

  • @eduardosotelo8446
    @eduardosotelo8446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shang Tsung killed Ermac and took Jarreds soul in mk11. I hate how did my boy like that. Ermac is the best

  • @Ando1428
    @Ando1428 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    But the smoke one and johnny cage one turned out real didnt it?

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Smoke's, canon or not, is ultimately inconsequential, because it hasn't affected him beyond changing his name. Johnny's is canon and does affect the plot.

    • @Doralga
      @Doralga 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The4thSnake unfortunately Johnny's is canon

    • @Ando1428
      @Ando1428 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Archus orez i didnt mind johnny being canon as they didnt dwell on it and it didnt help him in the end but it did help his daughter.

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair, Johnny being mystically special comes from Armageddon. While I don't love it it's not the worst thing in the series by far and it does make sense.
      Smoke's could be great if it's properly explored (just saying, it would've been in the game it was introduced in if it was the Old Timeline), the problem is mainly the fact that it has yet to make an impact, making it feel less like important backstory & character development and more of an interesting factoid that no one really cares about.

    • @Ando1428
      @Ando1428 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaer Nihiltheus shinnok shao kahn and quan chi are dead id say there is room for a few characters to get the spot light. The real question is did tavens parents see the changes and what did they do differently i mean shinnock changed so many outcomes cause of how he saw the amulet. What did they see and what did they change.

  • @RyomaHoshi22
    @RyomaHoshi22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Armageddon is my favorite mortal kombat

  • @popsmoke7874
    @popsmoke7874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would prefer a timeline where he is a servent of Shao Kahn but efter Shao Kahn’s death shao Kahn’s fortress collapses and as we see in mk9 the soul chamber is where Ermac regenerates and the soul chamber is located in shao Kahn’s fortress so Ermac can’t regenerate and Ermac’s souls start draining which will cause him to die. But Kitana finds him near death in Outworld but after finding out that one of his souls is King Jarred she tells Raiden and Raiden helps Ermac by healing him. Ermac joins the battle against Shinnok where he meets Sindel who is no longer brainwashed nor a Revenent

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And now Ermac seems like he won’t be in MK11 at all.