MKX had some interesting ideas, it did! I saw those in some of the non-canon pre-fight dialogues particularly. Story-wise, it also had a lot of potential. but, in typical NRS fashion, 99.9% of it was wasted.
Sindel killing half the good guys is arguably the biggest moment in MK history and the fact she never broke free from her brainwashing was baffling to me this also made her get a lot of hate from the MK community and now to date NetherRealm ruined her story arc.
I loved that moment because it felt like the heroes were actually in danger and would be more vulnerable afterwards since there were fewer of them. Sindel was brainwashed when she was resurrected and then died and became a revenant. She wasn't alive long enough to break her brainwashing. Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is how NetherRealm made her evil and selfish in MK11.
She went from a woman forced to be with a man To forced to help shao kahn To forced to help quant chi then later shinnok Forced to be in love with kahn again To finally forced to live inside shang stung as a soul
@@SwornHeresy I geddit. Its easy to see why someone would like it. But it's more the way she killed them imo. They literally ran head first into her an got OHK'd. It just looked... Stupid
I'm glad you realize how important it is for the villain to WIN, and preferably, to do so in the hands of the player. This lets the player get a feel for just how powerful or broken the character is, especially with any storyline exclusive modifiers such as armor frames or damage output. Challenge 150 lets you play as Goro with his entire moveset and with a power enhancement, and the game had plenty of modders smashing it open and playing as the bosses, so letting them be playable for those moments would have been perfectly fine.
Too many games these days do too much pussyfooting around villains and often trip and faceplant into the pitfall of "We can't make them look good by winning" like they just got the top half of their brain obliterated by a sniper. Villains need wins. They need to demonstrate how they got into the positions that they are in. I thought of such koncepts myself, but not nearly as in-depth as 4th Snake has displayed his koncept. There's nothing wrong with a villain winning now and then, especially if it serves as a stage for the heroes/heroines to rally and hit back even harder, making it actually look like an exciting back-and-forth, rather than Shao Kahn getting washed by Liu Kang for the millionth time, because plot armour.
@@articcow6580 The problem is that Shao Kahn has already been bodied by both Kotal and Kitana in the storyline at that point, but now we're supposed to accept that because twindell hanging off his arm, he can suddenly just casually beat anyone he comes across. Add that to the fact that he's also show to be a total goddamn buffoon by *trusting Shang Tsung with the crown,* and it just doesn't feel right. It's too little too late.
Hell, they've done it before. Boss characters in MK:A deal more damage and recieve less damage. Some of the big ones like Moloch, Goro, Kintaro, Onaga and Blaze can't be grabbed by smaller fighters either. When you use those characters, you really feel like a force to be reckoned with.
When I saw Kenshi I thought this dude was cool. And to see he barely has relevance is pretty sad. A dlc for MK9 and not story relevant, a main character for MKX and just kinda becomes irrelevant and his kid looses relevance, and MK11 where they're both gone. They could've honestly made him more unique and possibly have more potential in MK11's story and possibly team up with the Shirai Ryu
I have a feeling he was literally just there to hype up Takeda, as much as he's my favorite out of the kombat kids. His character, if you were to even call it that, lasted only one game and we learn very little about him
I think it's ironic that Deadly Alliance and Deception were written storywise for the villians to achieve their initial goals where Shang Tsung and Quan Chi revived Onaga's army, and Onaga to gain the Kamidogu through his manipulation of Shujinko yet didn't need character chapters to convey that they were major threats but NRS did their writing to make villians jobbers outside of the "hero must win the final battle" gimmick.
I would’ve had Smoke live. Maybe have him with the final heroes; Johnny, Sonya, and Lui Kang. Maybe have him be a “Deception Sub Zero” while Noob/Smoke is actually Noob/Dead Sub Zero. Smoke could also be the new leader of the clan
I always hated Shao Kahn's underhanded kill of Kung Lao, it made him more spineless and not actually a strong fighter if he won't even face his opponent. I mean it fits in his character as he did poison Onaga, but that's because Onaga was a powerful foe.
Kung Lao is a top tier opponent who defeated Kintaro and beat Shang Tsung/Quan Chi at the same time so there’s a reason for Shao Kahn to fear him. Still though it makes him look like a bitch.
@@kyled1673 if they show shao Kahn beat him it would help establish him being an actual threat rather than some bitch that gets manipulated by quan chi and dies
He's right about having to give villains a win. I know it's a different genre of game but a lot of the Transformers FPS games have you alternating between playing Autobots and Decepticons, having you cheer on the good guys while also giving the antagonists feats and scenes showcasing their power and making you realize *(Here it comes Netherrealm)*... *THAT THE VILLAINS ARE ACTUAL THREATS.*
StarCraft series also do this too, alternating from Terran, to Zerg and finally Protoss in vanilla SC and in SC2, but the episode system is similar to NS's chapter system.
I'm not gonna lie to you, I still have a soft spot for MK9. I still like the cutscenes, most of the gameplay, and the fatalities. It got me into MK. It's not flawless, but I think it still has some charm to it. Still though I'd love to tryout the original games. Even the 3D Era ones. I like their stories more than NRS.
MK9 started great! A solid start for the NRS era. With a lot of potential to explore new realms and learn more about our favorites characters... Such a wasted potential.
I think the reason was as simple as it was stupid and lazy: they didn't want (or know how) to have to deal with writing that many characters. maybe, it was also a lack of resources for cutscenes. either way, they simply killed them all off for convenience.
My first thought is they were tired of using the same character in the same way. Thus they decided to make so that everyone would take on varying different roles (Johnny as the new champion, Sonya and Johnny get together quicker, Liu Kang and most of the protagonists now being enemies, Quan Chi becoming a greater/more lasting threat than Khan, etc.). That all sounds interesting at first, but unless executed properly it can (and DID) fall flat on its face: -Power levels all over the place thanks to the character chapter system -Dumb-down, ineffectual antagonists (except Quan Chi in MK 9 and Shang Tsung in MK11 Aftermath) -Boring, underdeveloped, and at times shoehorned-in new characters that NRS wants to succeed/take the place of fan favorites without earning it: Kotal Khan and his krew (especially D'Vorrah), the Kombat Kids, Kroika, Cetrion, and Geras. -Boring, underdeveloped, and under-utilized returning characters in new roles; the revanents are just angry and evil shells of their former selves, Fujin and Bo Rai Cho just disappear after being on-screen for like 2 minutes, and Mileena's group just disappears after their leader is killed. On top of that, despite setting the modern trend of story modes in fighting games, NetherRealm doesn't seem to care about the narrative and lore of it's flagship franchise. They flip-flopped on the direction of the story (new direction for MKX, then bringing the most popular characters back in MK11) They forgot about/left characters out of the narrative when they get sick of them or can't find a compelling reason to include them (half or more of MKX's roster not counting guest fighters is just absent in MK11). They have an ever-changing writing staff that lacks respect for the source material. They give just as much if not more attention to guest fighters than preexisting characters in the franchise that could benefit from being fleshed out more. And perhaps most egregious of all: they have been inserting real-world (progressive) ideology and politics into Mortal Kombat. It makes a cynical guy like me think that just like several other popular franchises as of late (Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, Westworld, the comics industry, etc.), it was a deliberate attempt to destroy what already existed that fans loved in order to make things more "diverse" and "inclusive" to bring in new fans.
Why the hell didn't Kronika bring back Onaga and his armies that she'd know were already capable of wiping an arguably stronger roster than the one we have now.
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 Cetrion could’ve been just as dangerous as she may have her own ideas and beliefs, basically, Cetrion would be a major villain but not allying with Kronika as that is not the way to gain light to realms, however that is not to say that her way to dealing with it would be way worse than even Shao or onaga could ever think of(e.g. her ending)... if they wrote her properly
Instead of being forced to play Shao Khan it would be neat if you still got to play as Kung Lao and the enemy Shao Khan CPU's difficulty was turned up so high you physically cannot beat him.
@@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1о He says “What I’m too powerful, YOU CHEAT!” And you get a photo of like havik or something to show what they would look like in game and then u have too play again and lose and if you win again Game crashes
Between the events of MK: Deadly Alliance (leading right into MK: Deception's intro) and Sindel massacring everybody in MK 2011, it really seems like the point they're trying to shove in our faces is "without Liu Kang, Earthrealm's warriors are nothing".
Nah i see it as theryre bringing the chosen one back after trying to make johhny one which was terrible the best thing abt mkx was ptsd jax and johnny and lui kang actually had character development the story was mediocore but they still did him justice so far
Because they don't care about consistency, they only care about making questionable representation of black / LGBT / whatever community and make Shao Khan a badly written impression of Trump to antagonize the current president of the US.
kung lao was actually becoming a good character but netherealm decided to screw it up well at least they made kabal a good guy that's the only good thing they did also that relationship you did with goro and kung loa is amazing thanks I love storys about muteral respect
69th Gender About Kabal...he should also get a wasted potential discussion. Neatherrealm kind of retconned that whole 'good guy' personality in MK11 and ultimately turns him into a common thug that gets no redemption or character development after Kano dies. It's a shame as he is my absolute favourite MK character.
@@GodOfOrphans In MK3 he was good, in MKD and Armageddon he was more chaotic neutral than "evil". Getting targeted and left for dead by an organization hellbent on destroying all Black Dragon members, even though you haven't been one in a long time, caused him to basically resurrect the BD in order to have enough resources to take out the Red Dragon. He later made up with Kano and Jarek because "the enemy of my enemy", he was never "evil" though, like other neutrals such as Nitara he ultimately joined the Forces of Darkness because his situation demanded it, not because he genuinely wanted to rule the world or anything.
Snake you need to be a writer in NRS, at least then we'd get intimidating villains and good storytelling, not forced wins or inconsistent power levels.
That or TheFightersDen. Even if either get the job as writers, they still need to fight with the producers and their superiors since they have a final say in the matter.
@@JayceCH. lies, deception and just forcing the story down our throats as companies have the mentality that their costumers need to just consume their products instead of making a good product for their consumers.
I love the idea of instead of having each chapter be one character, that the chapters characters depend on the situation. allowing villains to also get a shine.
Wow i can't believe i also did not read or notice PLOTential after watching all your "wasted potential" videos . Very sneaky. Great insight by rearranging the fights here by the way!
To keep, canonically, the idea that Scorpion and Sub-Zero are indeed equal fighters, it would be nice to see them acknowledge Scorpion's original idea when he realizes it's not Bi-Han, but his younger brother, making him hold back against Sub-Zero in fights.
Playing as Shao Kahn to give him wins in the story would be badass, especially if you kept his overpowered boss properties (aside from the infinite side hammer throw). The player would get to feel how obscenely overpowered he is, and then really get a feeling of "uh oh" when they have to fight him.
Like when Kabal first appeared MK11' story they just say "He's fast". I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that. Not a single word about who he is (or better who he was, since he's a revenant) or that he was an ally during MK9. Nothing.
I think the only major problem with this approach is that unless you’ve learned all the characters beforehand, you’re going to be learning and re-learning a new move set for every fight in story mode. I don’t think that would be a smooth gaming experience. I do agree that the changes you’ve proposed would make the story itself better - it may be a pain in the ass to play, though
9/10. Nearly flawless. I'd only add that you have Baraka losing twice in MKII during tournament bouts: First fight with Jax and later with Johnny. If the Jax fight was with Sheeva, that'd be fixed (you see her there anyway holding the treasure chest). If it was me, I'd make Sonya fight Sektor instead of Nightwolf. That's why Sindel doesn't deal with her and she survives.
And maybe Sektor could take Sonya down (not outright killing her or anything like that) and have him be defeated by someone else (but it’s more or less my opinion on that)
I'm fine with chapters, as they can help to pace the story, but why do they have to be character specific? Why can't they feature a segment of fights with an assortment of characters in a smaller part of the story, like how a chapters typically functions in other media. Why is one chapter dedicated to 1 character?
MK9 was not flawless but it was like a love letter to true MK fans. The story. The designs for the characters. The roster. The fun gameplay. One of the best experiences.
An easy fix so they don't have to worry about people jumping around from character to character before they learn how to use any of them would be to have the Story Mode check if you've played a character on any of the modes before the first time said character is playable in the story, and if the player has not played that character anywhere else in the game yet, have a simple prompt somewhere off the side asking the player if they would like to go to training mode to practice that character first. By the end of the story mode, you should've been able to play as all or most of the characters at least once or twice, so this message no longer appears, and for those who do Arcade/Training/Online stuff first, they don't see it either. This would allow them to not have to do the whole character Chapter system, because if you don't know how to play a character and you ignore the window asking you if you'd like to go into training and practice their moves for a couple minutes - then any difficulty they have continuing the story is on them.
MK9 will be one of my guilty pleasures bc it was still (most of the time) consistent with its characters and lore. Looking back now, the story structure should be changed and probably the story would be probably be near perfect.
I really hope that NRS sees these videos and hires you, because this is a really good idea. You really know what you're talking and it shows, so I'd love to see this idea implemented.
I am looking at this video now, I would pay TOP DOLLAR to have someone like you write MK stories. Everything in this video is exactly what any *real* fan of Mortal Kombat would ask for.
What's funny is MK has some cool looking generic/jobbers they could use that appear in that background. I do like the idea of generic/jobbers without special moves that you can fight. Some ideas. Black Dragon thugs based on Kano. Spc Forces Trooper based on Sonya. Spc Forces Commando based on Stryker. Shri' ryu based on Honzo. Lin Qu based on Sub-Zero. Male Ninja based on any male Ninja. Female Ninja based any female Ninja. Tarkatans based on Baraka. Mask Guards based on Kung Lao. Lin Qu cyborgs based on Sektor. Monks based on Leu Kang. *I know my spelling is a little off. :)
Bruh I love this idea! It sounds way better than how NRS is telling the story! Your side of the story is 10x better, logical, and it makes more since. Kinda wish you were writing the story instead, good video man.
Even as a Kid when watching that Sindel Cutscene I was like: Why isn't Sub-Zero freezing her? Smoke you can become fucking invisible and intangible! Stricker did you forgot to reload your guns?
don't mind me, just waiting for NRS to gimme my boy kintaro back. its only been...like, 14 years, but Imma keep waiting. if they think characters like D'Vorah are good, then the OC's I've made are on a fucking godly level...though that's such a low bar, I'm pretty sure everyones OC's are better
why are most of you saying the time periods that are not correct, mk 9 was released at 2011 and had kintaro in it, so it is 9 years since he was a mk fighter, why are you saying 14 years i dont fucking get it??
For Liu Kang’s death, maybe it would’ve been better to have him fight Raiden while Shao Khan is passing through the portal. After the fight, Raiden manages to somehow restrain Liu Kang and convinced Johnny and Sonya to stand down. When Khan finally passes through, Raiden kneels and tells Kang to trust him one last time, then waits for the elder gods to stop Khan. But that doesn’t happen. Instead, Khan immeditely attacks the completely immobilised Liu and while he lays dying in Raiden’s arms, cursing him for serving him up to Khan, Shao beats up Sonya and Johnny. This sets up Revenant Liu absolutely despising Raiden in later games and also erodes some of Raiden’s devotion to the elder gods for when Dark Raiden arrives.
Considering your outrage over Sindel’s character assassination, you’re taking this rather well. How can it be Neatherrealm treat such set ups and then ignore them for only a fan on TH-cam make it sound so much better?
A big lol is that for some reason Kabal is banging Sareena I dont really remember that being a thing. About NRS things the storyline of Geras could be pretty cool y'know Geras being concious of who he is and his existence, it could be something really exploitable.
I absolutely adore your fact of Raiden seeing the right and wrong flashbacks play out that he genuinely struggles to figure out which one he should choose.
This may be a hot take but I actually like the way Shao Khan kills Kung Lao He just watched him defeat Shang Tsung and Quan Chi simultaneously and then Kintaro - I also think it's possible he could've heard that Kung Lao also defeated Goro earlier. My point is, Shao Khan was scared of Kung Lao so he took a cheap shot to take away his potential of losing
As a fan I really appreciate the work. The fact that the power struggle is all over the place has been annoying the crap out of me. Cassie beating Shinnok but she can't beat Shao Kahn, or Sindel who literally killed everyone for example, just makes it seem that the story doesn't care who can beat who. It makes sense in towers and online play, but matters if we're talking +10 years of story buildup. Thank you~ 🧡
I would love to see you do this with other Netherrealm games as they are limited by the stupid chapter system and seemingly won't give it up and it would nice to see your in-depth takes on the other stories
You should make a video with a list of canon endings from MK games before MK9 and explaining how they are canon and how some are partially canon. I know you have a line through time but giving a list would be nice then we can do a “canon playthrough” for ourselves
You could also use this rework to add in original Sindel. Instead of nightwolf killing her..maybe his sacrifice could call upon a spirit that removes the evil in Sindel's soul at the cost of his own. This puts Sindel on the heroes' side for mkx making their victory way less contrived since shes so much more powerful than she was in the original timeline
But keeping Nightwolf being killed Maybe she would start Screaming in his Face meanwhile he is trying to summons the Spirit of Purification (or whatever) and after he free her he falls down and dies But then MKX need to bring in the New Nightwolf (meanwhile also keeping Revenant Nightwolf)
I really liked these changes and I especially liked the new list of fights, it improves the story so much. I would just make a few changes to what you made. For one, I would give Raiden more fights and not just save them all for the final act. I would maybe have him fight baraka or Sheeva when they try to assassinate cyrax. I would also give him a win against kintaro saving Stryker since Stryker realistically should not be able to beat kintaro. Speaking of kintaro I would keep him in the outworld tournament since you didn't include him in there but have him lose to liu kang while kung lao fights shang Tsung. I would also have jax beat reptile since baraka get eliminated in the tournament later by Johnny Cage so he shouldn't lose in the tournament twice and in that case I'd say keep in his fight with Jade. Aside from that I really liked these changes, can you please do one for the other netherrealm games, especially mk1 cuz imo that story was actually kinda good and I think it would be even better if there were no chapter system, so we can do things like be able to play kung lao after he gets his hat.
Did someone say “pecking order” it goes the z fighters, the dirt, worms inside the dirt, popo’s stool, kami and popo. Any questions? Applause to you if you get that reference
When i heard that Mortal Kombat X would be years into the future and some of our favorite characters would have children, I knew that the series was gonna somewhat fly of the rails. Me personally wouldve like MKX to happen 2 to 3 years in the future and instead of what we got or another Mortal Kombat tournament, our heroes would fight to try and regain the lives of their fallen allies. Shinnok could still be the final boss with Quan Chi being the one you have to deal with throughout the story. Mileena could be the Empress of Outworld still causing problems for the player. Maybe the good guys need to get to the Soul Chamber to restore the revenants. And to fix the bad guys not getting any wins thing, you could play as Mileena and Quan Chi slowing down and sabotaging the main casts mission, like Mileena going and stopping them from reaching the Soul Chamber. Maybe characters we didn't see in MK9 story could have made an appearance. Tanya and Rain could be by Mileenas side. Sareena could be playable and instead of just sticking her in there for no reason, she could be the one to try and get through to Sub Zero. I thought of this in like 2 minutes so if its a mess sorry.
All fights in order: *Act I* - Johnny Cage vs Reptile - Johnny Cage vs Kano - Sub-Zero (Bi Han) vs Sonya Blade - Sonya Blade vs Kano - Shang Tsung vs Generics - Sub-Zero (Bi Han) vs Scorpion - Scorpion vs Kung Lao - Scorpion vs Sub-Zaro (Bi Han) - Cyrax (Human) vs Johnny Cage - Cyrax (Human) vs Sektor (Human) - Liu Kang vs Scorpion - Goro vs Generics - Goro vs Kung Lao - Liu Kang vs Goro - Liu Kang vs Shang Tsung *Act II* - Sektor (human) vs Cyrax (human) - Jax (human arms) vs Baraka - Jax (human arms) and Johnny Cage vs Jade - Smoke vs Kitana - Smoke vs Shang Tsung (posing as Sub Zero) - Cyrax vs Smoke - Sub-Zero vs Sektor - Ermac vs Sonya Blade and Jax (human arms) - Sub-Zero vs Ermac - Sub-Zero vs Scorpion - Shao Kahn vs Sub-Zero - Kitana vs Jade - Kitana vs Mileena - Kitana vs Shang Tsung - Shao Kahn vs Kitana - Jade vs Reptile - Jade vs Sheeva - Mileena vs Jade - Kung Lao vs Goro - Johnny Cage vs Baraka - Ermac vs Johnny Cage - Kung Lao vs Shang Tsung - Shao Kahn vs Kung Lao - Liu Kang vs Shao Kahn *Act III* - Quan Chi vs Sindel - Sheeva vs Kitana and Jade - Jax and Sonya Blade vs Sheeva - Stryker vs Reptile - Johnny Cage vs Scorpion - Mileena vs Stryker - Kintaro vs Kabal (unburnt) - Stryker vs Kintaro - Ermac vs Stryker - Shang Tsung vs Ermac - Kano vs Jax - Baraka vs Sonya Blade - Shang Tsung vs Quan Chi - Kabal vs Kano - Kabal vs Mileena - Kabal and Stryker vs Cyber Sub-Zero - Cyber Sub-Zero vs Sektor - Cyber Sub-Zero vs Goro and Kintaro - Quan Chi vs Sub-Zero (Bi Han) - Noob Saibot vs Cyber Sub-Zero - Nightwolf vs Noob Saibot - Sindel vs Johnny Cage - Reptile vs Stryker - Kabal vs Reptile - Sindel vs Kabal - Sektor vs Smoke - Nightwolf vs Sektor - Sindel vs Kitana - Nightwolf vs Sindel - Raiden vs Revenants (Kung Lao, Kitana and Nightwolf) - Raiden vs Liu Kang - Shao Kahn vs Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade - Shao Kahn vs Raiden - Raiden vs Shao Kahn That's a very long list. And the biggest jobber in this reimagining is Reptile, one win against four losses. Biggest Jobber ranking = Losses - Wins
Yeah, the way they make the bad guy constantly lose makes the story less dire and boring. Plus I also think that they should do away with the character chapters...it's limiting the potential of the game.
Cetrion lost to Sindel and "her crew" 🙄🙄 is very unpleasant and unsatisfying. She's a elder god of light and virtue. Seriously, they done dirty on her and nerfed so badly. She should stand against her Mother's will and fight for it, to prove her intention and motivation. Instead they made her just like her brother Shinnok. It's very dissapointing. Plus,.even freaking Kronika need Cetrion's powers to get enhanced and boosted.
@@Wright805 @Wright805 it's supposed to be Cetrion's story, she has potential to bring balance and defeat her own mother. Instead they made Liu Kang a beyond God. He basically stole Cetrion's role. Liu Kang had no chemistry with Kronika. Cetrion bringing a better future would be perfect ending for a story. Even aftermath, Liu's ending very bland and boring, he basically found another chosen one. This process will repeat. They ruined Cetrion, Sindel,Scarklet even Kronika, if Kronika supposed to be the strongest, why would she need Cetrion's powers? She never utilities any time based powers, her amulet and crown just for her fashion equipment, 🙄 Bald lady, Smh.
I really like this concept of MK9 and wish netherrealm actually did this. Can you do a video of how you would of wrote the new time line? (Mk9-Mk11) after seeing this I'm very curious to see how you would write the story if you had that opportunity
Ya know what's a real wasted plotential? Mk1 Reptile. You know? The one that has both Scorpion and Sub Zero's moves? And his story of being in the pit?
With that whole "give random goons the movesets of the characters and let them fight the cast" thing, Soulcalibur IV already did that. To pad out the story mode for each player, they fight members of the cast, as well as goons who serve under each main foe who have the movesets of other main cast members, but they use different weapons and armor/attire. The fact that SCIV already did this 3 years before MK9 shows how far behind NRS was, especially since people dismissed SCIV as shiny but shallow, but it had more depth than other games had. Heck, it was the first piece of media that had Darth Vader laugh, since in the end of his story mode in that game, he finally attains a power that makes him stronger than Emperor Palpatine, so he laughs as he takes the Soul Swords. It's implied by the ending text that after Vader overthrew old man Palpatine, he became even more frightening than his master when he took that power back home. I respect both MK9 and SCIV, but it's so baffling to me as to how one gets so much praise and the other gets so much scorn, when, for my money, SCIV was the better game and the better story, since it was a finale to the Soul franchise, and each character had their own ending in their story mode that gives them closure and room to be a badass. To me, that game had more meaningful stories than MK9's bad repast of the Rains of Castamere or Order 66 where all the characters die just to show how dark the story is. SCIV was able to achieve that without going overboard, specifically in the endings for Vader and Nightmare, where we get a dark ending that spells the doom for mankind.
SCIV is still my favorite of the series. Granted, this was due to having grown up with SCIII first, and this feeling like a mostly better version of it, but I enjoyed Algol as a villain more than Abyss, enjoyed the Star Wars characters, and liked some of the endings from characters like Raphael/Amy, Sophitia, and Xianghua.
This video was kind of confusing but I kind of like the setup as it gives both heroes and villains of Fighting Chance. I also like the idea when two or three characters team up to face one opponent like in the original Super Smash Brothers against giant Donkey Kong!
This entire video just proves why the "chapter" system is dogshit and only serves to throttle any sense of urgency within the narrative when the good guys always win and the bad guys always lose. What's the point of caring when nothing ever goes wrong?
@@TortoiseNotTurtle Most likely, but at least "redeemed" Shao Kahn a little bit having him beat Johnny Cage and Liu Kang. As for Sindel.. I refuse to play as her
It’s because of this chapter system. They need to get rid of it and just let the fights come as they may. They did kinda do this in MK 11 Aftermath which is a good step in the right direction.
Why the hell was ermac not in aftermath in place of nightwolf? Also I wish the Shang tsung ending was canon because in my eyes it feels almost cowardly that they had to make the good guys win in the end of it, like they believed they couldn’t expand the universe and the lore even if the villain won in the end, hell this could be done for MK12 with all new characters in a hard reboot with a new protagonist growing to defeat Shang because of what happened in the his ending. I mean infinity war and endgame did this so why couldn’t neitherrealm? Just my opinion.
The problem with Tsang Tsung winning is that he literally is too powerful to beat. For an MK12 to be possible, he'd have to make mistakes that would degrade his character. He has the ability to Warp space-time at a whim, he's a high elder god, and he's beyond clever. With thousands of years of history, he'd know how to systematically make the small changes that would stop his enemies from existing. Oh no, what about his star rival? Simple, he can just make it that the Great Kung Lau, and his other ancestors were more cloistered, and less sexual. He could mold our favorite Shaolin Monks to just be his mooks and generals. Wheras Fire God Liu Kang is Naive on many levels. Tsang Tsung just happened to be one of the few things he knew far more about. Liu Kang wouldn't have the insight to fix everything, and might even make costly changes that he didn't consider. Maybe he wouldn't end Tsang Tsung, and would change only a few minor things, hoping it'd "fix" his nature, only for nothing to change at all. Even with a mortal Raiden as his advisor, Raiden isn't all knowing/unflawwed either Citation: every goddamned mortal Kombat game he's in. A world where Liu Kang won has more potential, and progression for a game, than Tsang Tsung's victory. It might be interesting as a What-if Injustice 1 styled DLC, but dear God it'd be horrific for anything we'd interact with. TLDR: Everyone loses in a meta sense, if Tsang Tsung wins. The mortal Kombat game stories would have no room to really grow, fans of Tsang Tsung wouldn't be happy if he is made dumb for PLOT, and fans of everyone else would be unhappy, since a clever Tsang Tsung would give them all the modern Sindel treatment. It's a contrarian and trite outcome to make canon, like if Superman canonically won at the end of Injustice 2.
I actually wouldn't mind if they put in unwinnable fights in some scenarios like for the Shao Kahn bits. Like if you do win just alter the cutscene a bit so they still win OR when you do manage to cheese them out or survive for an amount of time they can do an instakill move in those specific fights, you can even throw in some dialogue in there like how SF4 did with their Rival Battles while doing the fight.
MK9's Story was the foundation that future MK's should've improved upon.
They didn't.
MKX had some interesting ideas, it did! I saw those in some of the non-canon pre-fight dialogues particularly. Story-wise, it also had a lot of potential. but, in typical NRS fashion, 99.9% of it was wasted.
Writing is handled by different people each time is it not? It probably shouldn’t have been.
A Fan shit is trash. The fans write better fan fiction than the shit we get.
Maybe they should be making the games. At this point they woujd be better than NRS
MK9 has the best story of the NRS MK games.
Sindel killing half the good guys is arguably the biggest moment in MK history and the fact she never broke free from her brainwashing was baffling to me this also made her get a lot of hate from the MK community and now to date NetherRealm ruined her story arc.
RIP the real Sindel. MK11 will probably be her last appearance in the franchise.
She'll be remembered for being a ruined character.............
I loved that moment because it felt like the heroes were actually in danger and would be more vulnerable afterwards since there were fewer of them.
Sindel was brainwashed when she was resurrected and then died and became a revenant. She wasn't alive long enough to break her brainwashing. Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is how NetherRealm made her evil and selfish in MK11.
She went from a woman forced to be with a man
To forced to help shao kahn
To forced to help quant chi then later shinnok
Forced to be in love with kahn again
To finally forced to live inside shang stung as a soul
@@SwornHeresy I geddit. Its easy to see why someone would like it. But it's more the way she killed them imo. They literally ran head first into her an got OHK'd. It just looked... Stupid
@@perfectlap9379 Oh for sure. They definitely could have handled that scene better. But the fact most of the heroes died was pretty awesome.
Yes Reptile getting wins. You love to see it
Yessir
Dunno, never seen it before
No what I want us a FREAKING KANO WINNN
@@something1765 say it louder for the people in the back
Reptile one of my favorite behind sub zero
I'm glad you realize how important it is for the villain to WIN, and preferably, to do so in the hands of the player. This lets the player get a feel for just how powerful or broken the character is, especially with any storyline exclusive modifiers such as armor frames or damage output. Challenge 150 lets you play as Goro with his entire moveset and with a power enhancement, and the game had plenty of modders smashing it open and playing as the bosses, so letting them be playable for those moments would have been perfectly fine.
Too many games these days do too much pussyfooting around villains and often trip and faceplant into the pitfall of "We can't make them look good by winning" like they just got the top half of their brain obliterated by a sniper. Villains need wins. They need to demonstrate how they got into the positions that they are in. I thought of such koncepts myself, but not nearly as in-depth as 4th Snake has displayed his koncept. There's nothing wrong with a villain winning now and then, especially if it serves as a stage for the heroes/heroines to rally and hit back even harder, making it actually look like an exciting back-and-forth, rather than Shao Kahn getting washed by Liu Kang for the millionth time, because plot armour.
I think aftermath took that way to seriously
@@articcow6580 The problem is that Shao Kahn has already been bodied by both Kotal and Kitana in the storyline at that point, but now we're supposed to accept that because twindell hanging off his arm, he can suddenly just casually beat anyone he comes across. Add that to the fact that he's also show to be a total goddamn buffoon by *trusting Shang Tsung with the crown,* and it just doesn't feel right. It's too little too late.
@@legionbeast yeah I agreed . They pushed shao Kahn way to hard . I very much prefer mk9 shao Kahn . Or atleast compared to mk11.
Hell, they've done it before. Boss characters in MK:A deal more damage and recieve less damage. Some of the big ones like Moloch, Goro, Kintaro, Onaga and Blaze can't be grabbed by smaller fighters either. When you use those characters, you really feel like a force to be reckoned with.
I was today years old when I realized that this series is called "Wasted PLOTential".
Don't worry, it also took some time for some of us to get it.
otobot45 tf? What? I’m done. My eyes deceived me
No what how did I not realize this
Yep I just noticed too
I'm right there with you bud. Took me last year to figure it out.
-Hey villains wanna hear a joke?
-a win in NR Story mode
-I don't get it
-yes
*Baraka and reptile crying in corner*
The biggest thing wasted in Netherrealms MK Trilogy is Kenshi’s potential in all 3 games.
When I saw Kenshi I thought this dude was cool. And to see he barely has relevance is pretty sad. A dlc for MK9 and not story relevant, a main character for MKX and just kinda becomes irrelevant and his kid looses relevance, and MK11 where they're both gone. They could've honestly made him more unique and possibly have more potential in MK11's story and possibly team up with the Shirai Ryu
I have a feeling he was literally just there to hype up Takeda, as much as he's my favorite out of the kombat kids. His character, if you were to even call it that, lasted only one game and we learn very little about him
@@lapplandkun9273he was dlc for mk9 though, there should’ve been more effort put into him
I think it's ironic that Deadly Alliance and Deception were written storywise for the villians to achieve their initial goals where Shang Tsung and Quan Chi revived Onaga's army, and Onaga to gain the Kamidogu through his manipulation of Shujinko yet didn't need character chapters to convey that they were major threats but NRS did their writing to make villians jobbers outside of the "hero must win the final battle" gimmick.
I would’ve had Smoke live. Maybe have him with the final heroes; Johnny, Sonya, and Lui Kang. Maybe have him be a “Deception Sub Zero” while Noob/Smoke is actually Noob/Dead Sub Zero. Smoke could also be the new leader of the clan
Honestly, it's such a shame that NRS made FIVE games with the same story structure only with extremely minor innovations from one game to another
6. Mkvsdc.
Biggest innovation is two batman chapters
@@tonitoniplays Slight issue: That was Midway.
I always hated Shao Kahn's underhanded kill of Kung Lao, it made him more spineless and not actually a strong fighter if he won't even face his opponent. I mean it fits in his character as he did poison Onaga, but that's because Onaga was a powerful foe.
Kung Lao is a top tier opponent who defeated Kintaro and beat Shang Tsung/Quan Chi at the same time so there’s a reason for Shao Kahn to fear him. Still though it makes him look like a bitch.
@@kyled1673 if they show shao Kahn beat him it would help establish him being an actual threat rather than some bitch that gets manipulated by quan chi and dies
He's right about having to give villains a win. I know it's a different genre of game but a lot of the Transformers FPS games have you alternating between playing Autobots and Decepticons, having you cheer on the good guys while also giving the antagonists feats and scenes showcasing their power and making you realize *(Here it comes Netherrealm)*...
*THAT THE VILLAINS ARE ACTUAL THREATS.*
StarCraft series also do this too, alternating from Terran, to Zerg and finally Protoss in vanilla SC and in SC2, but the episode system is similar to NS's chapter system.
Nobody would probably like any Mario game if that would happen
I'm not gonna lie to you, I still have a soft spot for MK9. I still like the cutscenes, most of the gameplay, and the fatalities. It got me into MK. It's not flawless, but I think it still has some charm to it. Still though I'd love to tryout the original games. Even the 3D Era ones. I like their stories more than NRS.
Honestly, agreed.
I feel the same. I think when it comes to the story of MK9, it’s shit, but forgivable shit. MKX and beyond have no redeeming qualities.
Has my favourite voice cast out of the last three games too. Jim Miller and Jaimeson Price are still the best Kuai Liang and Bi-Han.
Shao Kahn actually seemed like a threat in that one....I mean hes a dumb war lord with no personality but hay....he seemed cool.
Same here!
MK9 started great!
A solid start for the NRS era.
With a lot of potential to explore new realms and learn more about our favorites characters...
Such a wasted potential.
Quoting Sub Zero: Such wasted potential
@@066kshitizvsingh4Sub-Zero is a wise man. I’ll never forget what he said.
Reboot
5/10 needs 2 more hours
Oh do i have a video for you
@@enterdaputangYou still got the video?
@@RegularHuman97lmao
To This day, I dont understand why they wanted to kill almost every characters.
Oh ya that was my first grip
the only idea ive thought've is that they cut out quan chi's part of the ending and just end the reboot
I think the reason was as simple as it was stupid and lazy: they didn't want (or know how) to have to deal with writing that many characters. maybe, it was also a lack of resources for cutscenes. either way, they simply killed them all off for convenience.
Probably to start off with a new roster of characters
My first thought is they were tired of using the same character in the same way. Thus they decided to make so that everyone would take on varying different roles (Johnny as the new champion, Sonya and Johnny get together quicker, Liu Kang and most of the protagonists now being enemies, Quan Chi becoming a greater/more lasting threat than Khan, etc.).
That all sounds interesting at first, but unless executed properly it can (and DID) fall flat on its face:
-Power levels all over the place thanks to the character chapter system
-Dumb-down, ineffectual antagonists (except Quan Chi in MK 9 and Shang Tsung in MK11 Aftermath)
-Boring, underdeveloped, and at times shoehorned-in new characters that NRS wants to succeed/take the place of fan favorites without earning it: Kotal Khan and his krew (especially D'Vorrah), the Kombat Kids, Kroika, Cetrion, and Geras.
-Boring, underdeveloped, and under-utilized returning characters in new roles; the revanents are just angry and evil shells of their former selves, Fujin and Bo Rai Cho just disappear after being on-screen for like 2 minutes, and Mileena's group just disappears after their leader is killed.
On top of that, despite setting the modern trend of story modes in fighting games, NetherRealm doesn't seem to care about the narrative and lore of it's flagship franchise. They flip-flopped on the direction of the story (new direction for MKX, then bringing the most popular characters back in MK11) They forgot about/left characters out of the narrative when they get sick of them or can't find a compelling reason to include them (half or more of MKX's roster not counting guest fighters is just absent in MK11). They have an ever-changing writing staff that lacks respect for the source material. They give just as much if not more attention to guest fighters than preexisting characters in the franchise that could benefit from being fleshed out more. And perhaps most egregious of all: they have been inserting real-world (progressive) ideology and politics into Mortal Kombat.
It makes a cynical guy like me think that just like several other popular franchises as of late (Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, Westworld, the comics industry, etc.), it was a deliberate attempt to destroy what already existed that fans loved in order to make things more "diverse" and "inclusive" to bring in new fans.
Why the hell didn't Kronika bring back Onaga and his armies that she'd know were already capable of wiping an arguably stronger roster than the one we have now.
@NHG_DreaMz Then again its not like Shao Kahn was not similiarly dangerous.
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 Cetrion could’ve been just as dangerous as she may have her own ideas and beliefs, basically, Cetrion would be a major villain but not allying with Kronika as that is not the way to gain light to realms, however that is not to say that her way to dealing with it would be way worse than even Shao or onaga could ever think of(e.g. her ending)... if they wrote her properly
I usually give MK9 a pass the Sindel killing up everybody though still gets me well at least it's done by a legacy character and not a new character.
Yeah i didnt really expect that much from fighting games back then. Mk9 was still fun at the time and also sf4.
@Chris M Agreed.
*Looks at D'Vorah*
Cough cough... D'Vorah
@@blackmanta2527only 12 years ago
I'd love to see a system in a place where fights are actually difficult and winning and losing would change the outcome of the story.
Instead of being forced to play Shao Khan it would be neat if you still got to play as Kung Lao and the enemy Shao Khan CPU's difficulty was turned up so high you physically cannot beat him.
@@glassofwater281 what if some insanely good player or a cheater does beat him though
@@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1о hm... a free alternate costume?
@@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1о He says “What I’m too powerful, YOU CHEAT!” And you get a photo of like havik or something to show what they would look like in game and then u have too play again and lose and if you win again Game crashes
@@glassofwater281
I hate impossible fights
I prefer having a Cutscene that ignores my victory over an Impossible Fight
Between the events of MK: Deadly Alliance (leading right into MK: Deception's intro) and Sindel massacring everybody in MK 2011, it really seems like the point they're trying to shove in our faces is "without Liu Kang, Earthrealm's warriors are nothing".
Nah i see it as theryre bringing the chosen one back after trying to make johhny one which was terrible the best thing abt mkx was ptsd jax and johnny and lui kang actually had character development the story was mediocore but they still did him justice so far
Why aren’t you a writer for these games? You understand the franchise more than the people who created it.
Even if he does get hired, some higher ups at NRS or WB might make him make some decisions he's not too proud of
Way too much corpo interference, plus as Snake has pointed out, he'll also have to deal with current tone deaf writing pool of NRS.
Why has netherealm not got this man on their writing staff he can make a story good out of something that is bad
this is so true.
Because they don't care about consistency, they only care about making questionable representation of black / LGBT / whatever community and make Shao Khan a badly written impression of Trump to antagonize the current president of the US.
It's not even that he's a genius, imo this is just basic story structure lol THAT'S how bad NRS writing team is.
@@CUTIE_POXX that is not true but ok.
Agreed NRS should really consider him instead of the dummies that screwed up everything
kung lao was actually becoming a good character but netherealm decided to screw it up well at least they made kabal a good guy that's the only good thing they did also that relationship you did with goro and kung loa is amazing thanks I love storys about muteral respect
Yeah Lao was great
69th Gender About Kabal...he should also get a wasted potential discussion.
Neatherrealm kind of retconned that whole 'good guy' personality in MK11 and ultimately turns him into a common thug that gets no redemption or character development after Kano dies. It's a shame as he is my absolute favourite MK character.
I'm a bit rusty with my MK3 lore but wasn't Kabal sort of a good guy from the get go, former Black Dragon member seeking redemption?
about Kabal in MK11, make him Pre Black Dragon abandoment, and use Cassie to show what actually happened.
@@GodOfOrphans In MK3 he was good, in MKD and Armageddon he was more chaotic neutral than "evil".
Getting targeted and left for dead by an organization hellbent on destroying all Black Dragon members, even though you haven't been one in a long time, caused him to basically resurrect the BD in order to have enough resources to take out the Red Dragon. He later made up with Kano and Jarek because "the enemy of my enemy", he was never "evil" though, like other neutrals such as Nitara he ultimately joined the Forces of Darkness because his situation demanded it, not because he genuinely wanted to rule the world or anything.
Raiden tries to do his job
Titans and Elder gods: 🙄 ugh just fail for once
Snake you need to be a writer in NRS, at least then we'd get intimidating villains and good storytelling, not forced wins or inconsistent power levels.
That or TheFightersDen. Even if either get the job as writers, they still need to fight with the producers and their superiors since they have a final say in the matter.
@@sirnarwhal9911 true, but then again producers won't want to lose money by pissing of the fans, now do they?
@Michael Fireheart Then how did we get to this state of the story?
@@JayceCH. lies, deception and just forcing the story down our throats as companies have the mentality that their costumers need to just consume their products instead of making a good product for their consumers.
I love the idea of instead of having each chapter be one character, that the chapters characters depend on the situation. allowing villains to also get a shine.
Really messes me up thinking about how none of this would've happened if they just designed a new engine and let Vogel finish his storylines.
Wow i can't believe i also did not read or notice PLOTential after watching all your "wasted potential" videos . Very sneaky. Great insight by rearranging the fights here by the way!
To keep, canonically, the idea that Scorpion and Sub-Zero are indeed equal fighters, it would be nice to see them acknowledge Scorpion's original idea when he realizes it's not Bi-Han, but his younger brother, making him hold back against Sub-Zero in fights.
"Raiden seeks to Renegade Cyrax"
Cyrax: ....Why are you dancing..?
I hate you😂
Playing as Shao Kahn to give him wins in the story would be badass, especially if you kept his overpowered boss properties (aside from the infinite side hammer throw). The player would get to feel how obscenely overpowered he is, and then really get a feeling of "uh oh" when they have to fight him.
Holy fucking shit I can see the story playing out so much better than what we got. It makes sense and gives everyone a spot to shine and be playable.
To me it feels like whoever took over the writing, absolutely HATES Kabal
like wtf, didn’t Kabal’s speed was a side effect of his equipment?
To me it feels like they barely remember who he is and just put him in the jobbers list
They butchered my good boi Kabal and turned him into a bad guy. I was really intrested in seeing a kabal redemption story honestly.
Imagine how they'll ruin Stryker
Like when Kabal first appeared MK11' story they just say "He's fast". I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that. Not a single word about who he is (or better who he was, since he's a revenant) or that he was an ally during MK9. Nothing.
I've been waiting for this for a while, it's finally here
Literally you just need to be the lead writer at nether realm.
Yes
Mans is hitting us with that double upload
Men*
I think the only major problem with this approach is that unless you’ve learned all the characters beforehand, you’re going to be learning and re-learning a new move set for every fight in story mode. I don’t think that would be a smooth gaming experience. I do agree that the changes you’ve proposed would make the story itself better - it may be a pain in the ass to play, though
0:37 "Bi-Han"
Delegated to not have won a single canonical fight in NRS history both before and after dying, even against Fujin now
Technically he did win. He only ran because Fujin pulled a kamikaze. The fact that Fujin was desperate enough to resort to that shows he was losing.
@@Wright805 Not according to the new dialogue, no. Because originally Fujin explodes himself after you beat him.
They never should've rebooted and should've continued the story after Armeggodn.
Agreed but I wonder how
@@schemar17 They could've continued with Dark Raiden and Zombie Liu Kang.
Honestly, Armageddon should have been the last game.
REPLACE dark raiden and zombie liu kang
with fujin and kung lao but make
taven the new hero / main character
Armegoddn
You know something is wrong when your community is better at story telling than paid writers
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Damn. Back to back quality vids. And one of them is the one I've been waiting years for. Thanks Snake.
My favorite part of this videos is when he starts fixing the argument and makes it a supreme masterpiece
9/10. Nearly flawless. I'd only add that you have Baraka losing twice in MKII during tournament bouts: First fight with Jax and later with Johnny. If the Jax fight was with Sheeva, that'd be fixed (you see her there anyway holding the treasure chest).
If it was me, I'd make Sonya fight Sektor instead of Nightwolf. That's why Sindel doesn't deal with her and she survives.
And maybe Sektor could take Sonya down (not outright killing her or anything like that) and have him be defeated by someone else (but it’s more or less my opinion on that)
I'm fine with chapters, as they can help to pace the story, but why do they have to be character specific? Why can't they feature a segment of fights with an assortment of characters in a smaller part of the story, like how a chapters typically functions in other media. Why is one chapter dedicated to 1 character?
This is the work of one fan...
HOW CAN A DEVELOPMENT TEAM NOT DO BETTER THAN THIS?!
Oh, right... The Rageaholic already answered that.
MK9 was not flawless but it was like a love letter to true MK fans.
The story.
The designs for the characters.
The roster.
The fun gameplay.
One of the best experiences.
MegaNinten 007 the story was shit
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 facts it was going alright until the people started dying like wtf
Carl Wheezer so I imagine you really hate the Mk11 story then 😭
Gameplay wise I liked MKX more. Mk9 was the best made MK game. And I like MK11 more as a fighting game than a MK game
@@Melly_Wayy2011 (9) or mk11 (2019
Man I can't wait for this mans hours long critique of mk 11
An easy fix so they don't have to worry about people jumping around from character to character before they learn how to use any of them would be to have the Story Mode check if you've played a character on any of the modes before the first time said character is playable in the story, and if the player has not played that character anywhere else in the game yet, have a simple prompt somewhere off the side asking the player if they would like to go to training mode to practice that character first.
By the end of the story mode, you should've been able to play as all or most of the characters at least once or twice, so this message no longer appears, and for those who do Arcade/Training/Online stuff first, they don't see it either. This would allow them to not have to do the whole character Chapter system, because if you don't know how to play a character and you ignore the window asking you if you'd like to go into training and practice their moves for a couple minutes - then any difficulty they have continuing the story is on them.
MK9 will be one of my guilty pleasures bc it was still (most of the time) consistent with its characters and lore. Looking back now, the story structure should be changed and probably the story would be probably be near perfect.
I really hope that NRS sees these videos and hires you, because this is a really good idea.
You really know what you're talking and it shows, so I'd love to see this idea implemented.
I am looking at this video now, I would pay TOP DOLLAR to have someone like you write MK stories.
Everything in this video is exactly what any *real* fan of Mortal Kombat would ask for.
What's funny is MK has some cool looking generic/jobbers they could use that appear in that background.
I do like the idea of generic/jobbers without special moves that you can fight.
Some ideas.
Black Dragon thugs based on Kano.
Spc Forces Trooper based on Sonya.
Spc Forces Commando based on Stryker.
Shri' ryu based on Honzo.
Lin Qu based on Sub-Zero.
Male Ninja based on any male Ninja.
Female Ninja based any female Ninja.
Tarkatans based on Baraka.
Mask Guards based on Kung Lao.
Lin Qu cyborgs based on Sektor.
Monks based on Leu Kang.
*I know my spelling is a little off. :)
Bruh I love this idea! It sounds way better than how NRS is telling the story! Your side of the story is 10x better, logical, and it makes more since. Kinda wish you were writing the story instead, good video man.
Even as a Kid when watching that Sindel Cutscene I was like:
Why isn't Sub-Zero freezing her?
Smoke you can become fucking invisible and intangible!
Stricker did you forgot to reload your guns?
I love these videos but I always end up sad after them because I know we're never actually going to get these storylines
don't mind me, just waiting for NRS to gimme my boy kintaro back. its only been...like, 14 years, but Imma keep waiting. if they think characters like D'Vorah are good, then the OC's I've made are on a fucking godly level...though that's such a low bar, I'm pretty sure everyones OC's are better
OC's? stands for what?
@@rickgrimesdirtyondatass5672 Original character
you got him in Shang's fatality
why are most of you saying the time periods that are not correct, mk 9 was released at 2011 and had kintaro in it, so it is 9 years since he was a mk fighter, why are you saying 14 years i dont fucking get it??
@@q_taipan
*playable. Kintaro isn't regularly playable in MK 9, 10, 11.
The ninjas seem so strong bc someone who easily rips Jax arms off gets handled with ease
For Liu Kang’s death, maybe it would’ve been better to have him fight Raiden while Shao Khan is passing through the portal. After the fight, Raiden manages to somehow restrain Liu Kang and convinced Johnny and Sonya to stand down. When Khan finally passes through, Raiden kneels and tells Kang to trust him one last time, then waits for the elder gods to stop Khan. But that doesn’t happen. Instead, Khan immeditely attacks the completely immobilised Liu and while he lays dying in Raiden’s arms, cursing him for serving him up to Khan, Shao beats up Sonya and Johnny. This sets up Revenant Liu absolutely despising Raiden in later games and also erodes some of Raiden’s devotion to the elder gods for when Dark Raiden arrives.
You just did mk9 so much better than the actual story! Salute!
I like this concept, being able to play as every character on the roster in story mode
"Such wasted potential"
- Kuai Liang
I feel as if you should choose your side if you want to be good or bad instead of being heavily restricted to one side
Considering your outrage over Sindel’s character assassination, you’re taking this rather well. How can it be Neatherrealm treat such set ups and then ignore them for only a fan on TH-cam make it sound so much better?
A big lol is that for some reason Kabal is banging Sareena I dont really remember that being a thing. About NRS things the storyline of Geras could be pretty cool y'know Geras being concious of who he is and his existence, it could be something really exploitable.
Still love mk 9 but honestly now i want this version of the story it sounds aweaome
Indeed
A wasted plotential that covers a whole game? That's unheard-of!!!
I like when you talk about MK9 bc even with it's flaws it is my favorite and i like to hear other people opinions about it
My favourite too. I agree with the majority of the story critique but disagree with his opinion to the gameplay though
Reboot of the first game tho
Lord this is way better than the chapter format
I’m doing my own version of MK9 as well and this gave me some inspiration on how to write some of the characters, thanks 4thsnake
Will it be a TH-cam video?
Dylan Linville sadly no cuz I don’t have the space for it yet, most I can do is write and upload it
I absolutely adore your fact of Raiden seeing the right and wrong flashbacks play out that he genuinely struggles to figure out which one he should choose.
This may be a hot take but I actually like the way Shao Khan kills Kung Lao
He just watched him defeat Shang Tsung and Quan Chi simultaneously and then Kintaro - I also think it's possible he could've heard that Kung Lao also defeated Goro earlier.
My point is, Shao Khan was scared of Kung Lao so he took a cheap shot to take away his potential of losing
As a fan I really appreciate the work. The fact that the power struggle is all over the place has been annoying the crap out of me. Cassie beating Shinnok but she can't beat Shao Kahn, or Sindel who literally killed everyone for example, just makes it seem that the story doesn't care who can beat who. It makes sense in towers and online play, but matters if we're talking +10 years of story buildup. Thank you~ 🧡
Damn this sounds like a hella good game why aren’t you in charge?
I would love to see you do this with other Netherrealm games as they are limited by the stupid chapter system and seemingly won't give it up and it would nice to see your in-depth takes on the other stories
You should make a video with a list of canon endings from MK games before MK9 and explaining how they are canon and how some are partially canon. I know you have a line through time but giving a list would be nice then we can do a “canon playthrough” for ourselves
You could also use this rework to add in original Sindel. Instead of nightwolf killing her..maybe his sacrifice could call upon a spirit that removes the evil in Sindel's soul at the cost of his own. This puts Sindel on the heroes' side for mkx making their victory way less contrived since shes so much more powerful than she was in the original timeline
But keeping Nightwolf being killed
Maybe she would start Screaming in his Face meanwhile he is trying to summons the Spirit of Purification (or whatever) and after he free her he falls down and dies
But then MKX need to bring in the New Nightwolf (meanwhile also keeping Revenant Nightwolf)
I really liked these changes and I especially liked the new list of fights, it improves the story so much. I would just make a few changes to what you made. For one, I would give Raiden more fights and not just save them all for the final act. I would maybe have him fight baraka or Sheeva when they try to assassinate cyrax. I would also give him a win against kintaro saving Stryker since Stryker realistically should not be able to beat kintaro. Speaking of kintaro I would keep him in the outworld tournament since you didn't include him in there but have him lose to liu kang while kung lao fights shang Tsung. I would also have jax beat reptile since baraka get eliminated in the tournament later by Johnny Cage so he shouldn't lose in the tournament twice and in that case I'd say keep in his fight with Jade. Aside from that I really liked these changes, can you please do one for the other netherrealm games, especially mk1 cuz imo that story was actually kinda good and I think it would be even better if there were no chapter system, so we can do things like be able to play kung lao after he gets his hat.
Did someone say “pecking order” it goes the z fighters, the dirt, worms inside the dirt, popo’s stool, kami and popo. Any questions?
Applause to you if you get that reference
When i heard that Mortal Kombat X would be years into the future and some of our favorite characters would have children, I knew that the series was gonna somewhat fly of the rails. Me personally wouldve like MKX to happen 2 to 3 years in the future and instead of what we got or another Mortal Kombat tournament, our heroes would fight to try and regain the lives of their fallen allies. Shinnok could still be the final boss with Quan Chi being the one you have to deal with throughout the story. Mileena could be the Empress of Outworld still causing problems for the player. Maybe the good guys need to get to the Soul Chamber to restore the revenants. And to fix the bad guys not getting any wins thing, you could play as Mileena and Quan Chi slowing down and sabotaging the main casts mission, like Mileena going and stopping them from reaching the Soul Chamber. Maybe characters we didn't see in MK9 story could have made an appearance. Tanya and Rain could be by Mileenas side. Sareena could be playable and instead of just sticking her in there for no reason, she could be the one to try and get through to Sub Zero.
I thought of this in like 2 minutes so if its a mess sorry.
All fights in order:
*Act I*
- Johnny Cage vs Reptile
- Johnny Cage vs Kano
- Sub-Zero (Bi Han) vs Sonya Blade
- Sonya Blade vs Kano
- Shang Tsung vs Generics
- Sub-Zero (Bi Han) vs Scorpion
- Scorpion vs Kung Lao
- Scorpion vs Sub-Zaro (Bi Han)
- Cyrax (Human) vs Johnny Cage
- Cyrax (Human) vs Sektor (Human)
- Liu Kang vs Scorpion
- Goro vs Generics
- Goro vs Kung Lao
- Liu Kang vs Goro
- Liu Kang vs Shang Tsung
*Act II*
- Sektor (human) vs Cyrax (human)
- Jax (human arms) vs Baraka
- Jax (human arms) and Johnny Cage vs Jade
- Smoke vs Kitana
- Smoke vs Shang Tsung (posing as Sub Zero)
- Cyrax vs Smoke
- Sub-Zero vs Sektor
- Ermac vs Sonya Blade and Jax (human arms)
- Sub-Zero vs Ermac
- Sub-Zero vs Scorpion
- Shao Kahn vs Sub-Zero
- Kitana vs Jade
- Kitana vs Mileena
- Kitana vs Shang Tsung
- Shao Kahn vs Kitana
- Jade vs Reptile
- Jade vs Sheeva
- Mileena vs Jade
- Kung Lao vs Goro
- Johnny Cage vs Baraka
- Ermac vs Johnny Cage
- Kung Lao vs Shang Tsung
- Shao Kahn vs Kung Lao
- Liu Kang vs Shao Kahn
*Act III*
- Quan Chi vs Sindel
- Sheeva vs Kitana and Jade
- Jax and Sonya Blade vs Sheeva
- Stryker vs Reptile
- Johnny Cage vs Scorpion
- Mileena vs Stryker
- Kintaro vs Kabal (unburnt)
- Stryker vs Kintaro
- Ermac vs Stryker
- Shang Tsung vs Ermac
- Kano vs Jax
- Baraka vs Sonya Blade
- Shang Tsung vs Quan Chi
- Kabal vs Kano
- Kabal vs Mileena
- Kabal and Stryker vs Cyber Sub-Zero
- Cyber Sub-Zero vs Sektor
- Cyber Sub-Zero vs Goro and Kintaro
- Quan Chi vs Sub-Zero (Bi Han)
- Noob Saibot vs Cyber Sub-Zero
- Nightwolf vs Noob Saibot
- Sindel vs Johnny Cage
- Reptile vs Stryker
- Kabal vs Reptile
- Sindel vs Kabal
- Sektor vs Smoke
- Nightwolf vs Sektor
- Sindel vs Kitana
- Nightwolf vs Sindel
- Raiden vs Revenants (Kung Lao, Kitana and Nightwolf)
- Raiden vs Liu Kang
- Shao Kahn vs Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade
- Shao Kahn vs Raiden
- Raiden vs Shao Kahn
That's a very long list. And the biggest jobber in this reimagining is Reptile, one win against four losses.
Biggest Jobber ranking = Losses - Wins
i want nrs to explain how this man could explain a way better story than their garbage in only 11 minutes lmao
Yeah, the way they make the bad guy constantly lose makes the story less dire and boring. Plus I also think that they should do away with the character chapters...it's limiting the potential of the game.
Every series of video games villain losing to the heroes
Cetrion lost to Sindel and "her crew" 🙄🙄 is very unpleasant and unsatisfying. She's a elder god of light and virtue. Seriously, they done dirty on her and nerfed so badly. She should stand against her Mother's will and fight for it, to prove her intention and motivation. Instead they made her just like her brother Shinnok. It's very dissapointing. Plus,.even freaking Kronika need Cetrion's powers to get enhanced and boosted.
Absolutely.
@@Wright805 @Wright805 it's supposed to be Cetrion's story, she has potential to bring balance and defeat her own mother. Instead they made Liu Kang a beyond God. He basically stole Cetrion's role. Liu Kang had no chemistry with Kronika. Cetrion bringing a better future would be perfect ending for a story. Even aftermath, Liu's ending very bland and boring, he basically found another chosen one. This process will repeat. They ruined Cetrion, Sindel,Scarklet even Kronika, if Kronika supposed to be the strongest, why would she need Cetrion's powers? She never utilities any time based powers, her amulet and crown just for her fashion equipment, 🙄 Bald lady, Smh.
I really like this concept of MK9 and wish netherrealm actually did this.
Can you do a video of how you would of wrote the new time line? (Mk9-Mk11) after seeing this I'm very curious to see how you would write the story if you had that opportunity
Ya know what's a real wasted plotential? Mk1 Reptile. You know? The one that has both Scorpion and Sub Zero's moves? And his story of being in the pit?
At least Dark Kahn was """""something of a threat""""" as he made everyone fight against Each other, but yeah, wasted
None other has come close to win
With that whole "give random goons the movesets of the characters and let them fight the cast" thing, Soulcalibur IV already did that. To pad out the story mode for each player, they fight members of the cast, as well as goons who serve under each main foe who have the movesets of other main cast members, but they use different weapons and armor/attire. The fact that SCIV already did this 3 years before MK9 shows how far behind NRS was, especially since people dismissed SCIV as shiny but shallow, but it had more depth than other games had. Heck, it was the first piece of media that had Darth Vader laugh, since in the end of his story mode in that game, he finally attains a power that makes him stronger than Emperor Palpatine, so he laughs as he takes the Soul Swords. It's implied by the ending text that after Vader overthrew old man Palpatine, he became even more frightening than his master when he took that power back home.
I respect both MK9 and SCIV, but it's so baffling to me as to how one gets so much praise and the other gets so much scorn, when, for my money, SCIV was the better game and the better story, since it was a finale to the Soul franchise, and each character had their own ending in their story mode that gives them closure and room to be a badass. To me, that game had more meaningful stories than MK9's bad repast of the Rains of Castamere or Order 66 where all the characters die just to show how dark the story is. SCIV was able to achieve that without going overboard, specifically in the endings for Vader and Nightmare, where we get a dark ending that spells the doom for mankind.
SCIV is still my favorite of the series. Granted, this was due to having grown up with SCIII first, and this feeling like a mostly better version of it, but I enjoyed Algol as a villain more than Abyss, enjoyed the Star Wars characters, and liked some of the endings from characters like Raphael/Amy, Sophitia, and Xianghua.
SC V meanwhile.... Yeah... Yeah SCV
@@iskoconquers SCV was unnecessary. It should have been a remake of 1 or 2 like what SCVI is.
@@iisanulquiorrahara8 I grew up playing SC2 at a friend's house, and I loved SCIV.
Before this video played, I had to sit through an ad of MK11. That ad spoiled probably spoiled most of the friendships in the new Aftermath expansion.
This video was kind of confusing but I kind of like the setup as it gives both heroes and villains of Fighting Chance. I also like the idea when two or three characters team up to face one opponent like in the original Super Smash Brothers against giant Donkey Kong!
Ok so you're keeping the Liu Kang beating Shao Kahn two times....good. As it should be
4rthSnake how do you make such GOLDEN Writing!?
For all its flaws still had some pretty good costumes even with the older CGI
Omg, you literally fixed the whole story.
Excellent video to close out a highly enjoyable Mortal May. Keep up the great work!
This entire video just proves why the "chapter" system is dogshit and only serves to throttle any sense of urgency within the narrative when the good guys always win and the bad guys always lose. What's the point of caring when nothing ever goes wrong?
Aftermath made the bad guys win.
@@anthonytrashboat In a specific ending, in which the good ending is likely the canon one
@@TortoiseNotTurtle Most likely, but at least "redeemed" Shao Kahn a little bit having him beat Johnny Cage and Liu Kang.
As for Sindel.. I refuse to play as her
@@oddiseyaatrox2813 Yeah, the same guy that gets pummeled by no-named Shokans is enough to say he's beyond redemption.
@@the-point-bearer6689 every character looses to no names when its not their turn in the spotlight, what's your point?
It’s because of this chapter system. They need to get rid of it and just let the fights come as they may. They did kinda do this in MK 11 Aftermath which is a good step in the right direction.
Dang!! You’re spoiling us with all these uploads
Why the hell was ermac not in aftermath in place of nightwolf?
Also I wish the Shang tsung ending was canon because in my eyes it feels almost cowardly that they had to make the good guys win in the end of it, like they believed they couldn’t expand the universe and the lore even if the villain won in the end, hell this could be done for MK12 with all new characters in a hard reboot with a new protagonist growing to defeat Shang because of what happened in the his ending.
I mean infinity war and endgame did this so why couldn’t neitherrealm?
Just my opinion.
Sounds like a interesting story but people would complain about why their favorite character isn't in the game
The problem with Tsang Tsung winning is that he literally is too powerful to beat. For an MK12 to be possible, he'd have to make mistakes that would degrade his character.
He has the ability to Warp space-time at a whim, he's a high elder god, and he's beyond clever. With thousands of years of history, he'd know how to systematically make the small changes that would stop his enemies from existing.
Oh no, what about his star rival? Simple, he can just make it that the Great Kung Lau, and his other ancestors were more cloistered, and less sexual. He could mold our favorite Shaolin Monks to just be his mooks and generals.
Wheras Fire God Liu Kang is Naive on many levels. Tsang Tsung just happened to be one of the few things he knew far more about. Liu Kang wouldn't have the insight to fix everything, and might even make costly changes that he didn't consider. Maybe he wouldn't end Tsang Tsung, and would change only a few minor things, hoping it'd "fix" his nature, only for nothing to change at all. Even with a mortal Raiden as his advisor, Raiden isn't all knowing/unflawwed either
Citation: every goddamned mortal Kombat game he's in.
A world where Liu Kang won has more potential, and progression for a game, than Tsang Tsung's victory. It might be interesting as a What-if Injustice 1 styled DLC, but dear God it'd be horrific for anything we'd interact with.
TLDR:
Everyone loses in a meta sense, if Tsang Tsung wins. The mortal Kombat game stories would have no room to really grow, fans of Tsang Tsung wouldn't be happy if he is made dumb for PLOT, and fans of everyone else would be unhappy, since a clever Tsang Tsung would give them all the modern Sindel treatment. It's a contrarian and trite outcome to make canon, like if Superman canonically won at the end of Injustice 2.
Because we have to wait at least 3 years for a sequel. Endgame was not even a year after Infinity War
Infinity war newest multiplayer is garbage but they got campaign though
It would be boring i cany say the lui kang one is any better tho i cant see tgkl become the face of mk
At least some of the vilains get their time to shine in the Aftermath story expansion.
I actually wouldn't mind if they put in unwinnable fights in some scenarios like for the Shao Kahn bits. Like if you do win just alter the cutscene a bit so they still win OR when you do manage to cheese them out or survive for an amount of time they can do an instakill move in those specific fights, you can even throw in some dialogue in there like how SF4 did with their Rival Battles while doing the fight.